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>> No.22273893

I like pussy.

>> No.22273908

and I HATE women.

>> No.22273922

>>22273869
BEAR TRAP
BOBOS BEWARE

>> No.22273961

Stop splitting the fucking SMG linking these threads early tranny

Wait for the fucking bump limit

Proper thread

>>22273564
>>22273564
>>22273564

>> No.22273973

I really have no idea what to expect Tuesday. On one hand we saw a nice recovery Friday afternoon and there hasn’t been any real news to trigger another sell off.
On the other hand the world economy recession is becoming more abundantly on the surface and people are starting to be a little fearful as we head into an uncertain election season which will see civil unrest and tensions continue to rise.

>> No.22273983

>>22273869
Went to Denny’s today

>> No.22273984

>>22273961
Look how mad this pajeet is and laugh

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>>22273854

>> No.22273996

impending doom. sell.

>> No.22274037

>>22273869
Its kind of misleading to put Tqqq against real indices. Tqqq is not really for long term hodl's

>> No.22274046

>>22273973
that "recovery" is exactly what makes me think the dump is impending. if it had continued to dump into close i would be more optimistic for tuesday

>> No.22274053

Bought 1k in Apple

Seemed like the best long term dip move tbqh

>> No.22274064

>>22273996
Too many people think so.
Even normies.
We're going up for a bit

>> No.22274075

>>22273973
Another market-wide dump is the only thing I'm worried about with my GME gamble. The only thing I'm convinced can realistically block a squeeze. Can a Q2 be amazing enough to make GME pop regardless of tech dipping more?

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>>22274046
I can see this happening. The market makers aren’t going to let a bunch of retail fags get rich off the volatility. As soon as everyone sells and buys puts, they’ll pump it back and as soon as everyone buys back in and gets calls they’ll dump it. Pretty fucked up.

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I was insane to put 25% of my fund in UVXY before a three day weekend That’s so much time. Just wait for the ECB to announce that they’re buying massive amounts of US corporate debt.

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>>22273973
I think there's more pain ahead, but i'm just going to use the opportunity to load up on cheap tech leaps

>> No.22274149

>>22274037
Check its return from its inception 10 years ago. Past results don't guarantee future returns but the experts were wrong as fuck when they said don't hold it long.

>> No.22274150

>>22274075
Are the guy thinking about using loaned money on GameStop? Please do not do that man it’s fucking GameStop please critically think about them as a company and ask yourself again if that’s a good idea. There’s dozens of better gambles out there personally I’m thinking about gambling on TQQQ weekly calls cause it got hit so hard last week

>> No.22274173

>>22273984
He's right and your wrong though?
>pls no cope posting

>> No.22274197

The biggest conspiracy on smg that nobody figured out and forgotten about already.
The fucking guy who spammed to buy wirecard out of nowhere, a few days before the first news of shady business.
Then disappeared for a few weeks. Then once again, just a day or two before wirecard collapsed to nearly €0, they were spamming to buy it again.
No, that's not a fucking coincidence you fucking retards. Guy clearly knew something nobody else did and memed on smg out of all fucking places, to trick people into losing money

>> No.22274223

>>22274197
lmao whats a surprise about that?

>> No.22274224

>>22274197
But why?
I bet the collective funds of this general in at most 10m

>> No.22274233

>>22274064
>overwhelming evidence that the economy is shit
>bull market based on nothing but hype
>six months of line goes up, 2x, 4x, stonks with no healthy pullbacks

it is literally only some people on here that were saying its a bubble, all the normies are insistant this is just a small setback, and we are back to line goes up right away.

You really do not want this bubble to reinflate after a 5% pullback either... then it risks becoming a larger crash that lasts longer.

>> No.22274247

>>22274150
why not straddle tqqq or gamma scalp?

>> No.22274249

>>22273973
The fact the US tech rally was poomped by big boys like SoftBank and almost crashed with no survivors when just one of them dropped their bags doesn't look good.

>> No.22274287

>>22274197
Doggy dog world out there brah
I’m pretty sure the unusual option “whale” detector twitter account is a scam and lost to it big time.

>> No.22274291

>>22274233
It's 100% a bubble.
But I believe normies never win when it comes to investing short term.
I just don't think this is the crash, yet.

>> No.22274317

>>22274233
>bull market based on nothing but hype

it's based on low interest rates you fucking mongoloid. Feds are gonna leave interest rates at zero for the next 5 years. If you wanna sit in cash and get dabbed on by inflation then good luck, I'm farming dividens from solid companies that still make money. Despite your "shitty economy".

>> No.22274319

>>22274249
That’s so bullish though
now everyone knows all we have to do is buy massive amounts of calls and leverage up

>> No.22274373

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4372597-gamestop-short-squeeze-part-iii-atop-caldera

>> No.22274389

>>22274233
>zero intetest
>mass printing/QE
>"raised" inflation (same target just commited to hitting it)
it's not a bubble yet you are seeing panic to protect dollar assets over the next 5 years. holding cash is the worst option right now.

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>>22274317
interest rates were already low, real rates were already negative.

The whole market is not a bubble anon... but a large amount of it has been over hyped, over bought, and most certainly are a bubble... if you already have your money in stable companies that pay dividends then you likely have moved funds out of the problem areas.

No need to be upset, that is for poor people, you are not poor are you anon?

You dont have to be a retard about it

>> No.22274448

OVV had massive gains (+400%) and now it's just crabbing upwards. Does no one else think it's more likely it'll just crab sideways from now on?

Fundamentals, these techs will keep (most of) their value as they've continued to grow despite corona. The only thing I'd be worried about are stuff like Tesla and Zoom. Basically all of EV car stocks and the corona stocks that are only up because it's corona.

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>>22274448
FUCK. i mean pic related too.
It's what I hope the market index will do.

>> No.22274471

>>22274389
Absolutely, but the whales are moving money around, they will take their profits, let everyone else pink wojak on the way down, and re buy in once those assets are cheaper.

Inflation is guaranteed to lose everyone 5-10% a year in real terms, but investing is still a double edged sword, can lose much more if you are behind the curve.

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22274477

uh guys

>> No.22274499

>>22274233
I'm OK with it as long as we can extend the bubble for 40 years or so.

>> No.22274503

>>22274477
Elon should make his own index just to dab on them

>> No.22274550
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22274550

Could it really be as simple as just buy ETSY? I don’t know why I didn’t.

>>22274477
>not sent at 5:00
Nah

>> No.22274555

>>22274373
Dope

>> No.22274572

>>22274223
the surprise is somebody knew wirecard was about to fall big, TWICE, before ANYONE else knew it, and they decided to meme about it on fucking smg and nobody here caught on because we're a bunch of retards.
>>22274224
>why
literally the only purpose must have been to make some idiots lose a little bit of their money. i have no idea why for real

>> No.22274575

>>22274197
damn, i got goosebumps

>> No.22274646

>>22274197
that's retarded because most of the general are americans who can't even trade on european exchanges. These generals are almost dead outside of american hours

>> No.22274657

>>22274646
yes that just makes it even more weird don't you think

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Does anyone long euro here? Fiat is shit, but still I need some cash. Should I transfer my USD savings to EUR?

>> No.22274711

>>22273869
This girl said she’s going to sue me for online harassment should I be worried? We live in different states btw

>> No.22274736

>>22274477
Imagine having Etsy picked over your meme machine company

>> No.22274744

>>22274572
Dude a lot of us caught on we just didn’t care because not many of us are German

>> No.22274767
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22274767

Hahaha dividend plebs

unlike you I am ABSOLUTELY FUCKED

>> No.22274806

>>22274744
before the news, monkey.

>> No.22274818

why is there three smeegees on a sunday

>> No.22274839

>have the perfect strategy to play the VIX
>(((((they))))) won't let me play it directly

god fucking dammit

>> No.22274897

>>22273983
how was it?

>> No.22274910
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22274910

I’m aware this was a dumb play. Should I just dump it right away at open Tuesday, or wait and see what happens?

>> No.22274915

>>22274818
Greed.

>> No.22274968

>>22274646
Pretty sure corps can have their shit listed under the F suffix. From what I've seen though, there's a middle man involved, and they can do things like excise voting rights from stockholders, so it's not the same as the underlying.

WCAGY, and WRCDF do this I believe.

>> No.22275004

>>22274910
wow and I thought I had fucked up

Do you know what your total exposure will be if prices fall further?

>> No.22275038

>>22275004
worst case I'm out 7% of my portfolio. But I'm up like 150% in the last month so it doesn't bother me too much. Thinking I'll just cut my losses and buy more QQQ leap calls

>> No.22275051
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22275051

I learned my lesson, to never go all in one stock. I sold Tesla with heavy losses and now invested in the five horsemen. Did I do right?

>> No.22275063

>>22275038
you might as well wait until battery day at least. it might save you.

>> No.22275084

>>22275051
>i sold TSLA around 500 on that day it went from 538 in the premarket and tanked and then retraced up

feels fucking good, man.

>> No.22275087
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22275087

Today is my birthday, I turn 32.
I'm raising a toast to all of my friends on /smg/ to green lines going up, fat green bags, and good frens by your side.
Also fuck jannies

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>>22275087
Based. May line go up forever

>> No.22275121
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>>22275087
happy birthday bro

>> No.22275126

>>22273869
Hello /smg/
Whats a good broker for europeans to buy and sell american stocks? Plus500?

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>>22275051
Are you at least 30% cash right now?

>> No.22275149

just waiting for the Airbnb IPO

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>>22275087
happy birthday!

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>>22275087
Cheers, fren. Happy birthday!

>> No.22275174

>>22274135
which stocks you looking at? Im going to buy leaps on AAPL mostly with some NVDA and AMD and INTC since I think its way oversold

>> No.22275199

who /0% cash 0% pm/ here
90/10 stocks/bonds always and forever

>> No.22275224
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>>22274839
I put together a simple strategy for vix long a while back. Note that it isn't quite this simple as the vix etf you use to trade it will decay. But, if you time it sort of right it should work. Taking partial profit at regular intervals is very important.

>> No.22275237

>>22275140
No but I live at parents home so no expenses

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>>22275087
happy birthday, my friend. Here's to many more green lines and shapely brappers in your future.

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Awaken my masters

>> No.22275411

>>22275237
Based

>> No.22275480
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Digits confirm green tuesday

>> No.22275482

>>22275087
hbd bro

>> No.22275489

>>22275224
based. I decided to long volatility once it started going up with the markets melting up. I've taken half off gonna let the rest ride a bit... I don't think we're returning to normal quite yet

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Rolling for cheapies

>> No.22275568

>>22275489
>I don't think we're returning to normal quite yet
Agreed. Generally with the way these things go, the 50 day ema will get touched at least once before price action settles down in to wherever it wants to go either back up or down some more. That's 3318 on S&P and 11085 on Nasdaq. Tuesday might be green though.

>> No.22275590 [DELETED] 

>>22274037
Pfft who care what these so called experts say. How many times hace these "financial experts" fed people lies to make money off of them.

t. Ignored these financial experts and went all in SOXL back in 2010 in my 20s with all the money I saved by living at home

t. Retired for life, retired family for life, retired great great grandchildren for life (assuming any children only have 2 kids and so forth)

>> No.22275626

>>22275568
nah we wont dip that far.

This wasn't a dip even.

The more I look at it it was a spike up and return to normal. We are down a week or two from insane momentum upwards.

There never was a "Crash" or "dip". We went parabolic and then returned to normal.

>> No.22275635 [DELETED] 

>>22275590
Should also add i did play a bit with options back in 2019 with about 20% of the funds that were in soxl which led to the biggest boon

>> No.22275671

>>22275087
what is being 32 like ??
isn't baggie almost 32 now
you guys are the same age

>> No.22275700

>>22274711
what did you do anon

>> No.22275712

>>22275568
Yeah I'm watching the UVXY, still in a small bull trend for now. I try and treat it like holding a hand grenade... in and out as fast as I can. September is historically pretty volatile so I feel alright keeping a small position here and staying on the sidelines in cash for now. Have to respect the bull trend in the NQ and SPY but I definitely want to keep exposure to potential mass panic selling.

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>>22275626
we shall see hwat we shall see. I'm not shorting anything (yet).

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>>22273869
gamma scalping zoom and tesla, gotta love the volatility!

>> No.22275757

>>22275224
what do you trade? VXX? the issue im seeing is that you can't trade the VIX directly and all of the shit that allows you to trade it basically fucks you for holding long term in any capacity. kinda ruins the whole "oh hey look i could just buy every time it gets around 12 and flip it every time it doubles, maybe only sell half there in case it gets up in the 40's or the rare case of the 80's" idea.

>> No.22275765

>>22275051
Yeah just view it as a long term investment.

>> No.22275776

>>22275626
don't know how you can be so confident on that there are a lot of downside gaps in SPY, AAPL and DIA right now

>> No.22275786

>>22273869
Should I invest in Domino’s? They’re the best fast food pizza place

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>>22275087
>tfw 32 in 3 months
Hope you're gonna make it one day.

>> No.22275803

>>22275671
Doesn't feel much different than 27 or so. My hair is thinning out a bit, and my metabolism is slowing down, but there's ways to mitigate those problems.

>> No.22275810

circuit breaker tuesday

>> No.22275841

odds trump uses treasury excess funds from first stimulus to send direct checks by Nov?

>> No.22275873

>>22275776
It's not overconfidence or confidence. I'm just saying we didn't dip or crash. We returned to trend from a spike up.

I'm only confident in these tech stocks over the next year time frame. The attempts at rotation, dips, volatility, etc will continue, but the 12 month trend is up.

>> No.22275899

>>22275790
We're all gonna make it, friend

>> No.22275900

>>22275737
How does one gamma scalp? Noob here.

>> No.22275912

>>22275757
That's what I meant by this:
>Note that it isn't quite this simple as the vix etf you use to trade it will decay

>> No.22275936

>>22275841
0%

>> No.22275951

I think Trump will attempt this

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/trump-300-billion-second-stimulus/507-4d11c38e-aaef-49d6-bf55-64e2f5676bda

Trump has 300 billion left over from stimulus bills
It's technically a no-no for him to try to send it as stimulus checks.

Doing so in October would increase his chances and outrage from democrats would hurt their chances.

High probability he tries some executive shenanigans, even if stopped, to do so for the press it would bring.

>> No.22275953

>>22275912
seems like the real key is to find the best times to short the VXX instead. or maybe play the /VX when we have some crisis going on that spikes volatility.

>> No.22275956

>>22275174
yeah pretty mech the megacaps and semi's. I have plenty of apple exposure as it is just owning the stock and want to avoid going all-in just in case they get fucked by the Epic Games lawsuit

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>>22275671
>what is being 32 like ??

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>>22275121
Isn't that dance patented?

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>>22275087
Happy birthday, fellow 4channeler.

>> No.22275998

>>22275873
crab (upwards) time, retail newbies got way too spoiled by QQQ line only go UP UP UP. I was starting to feel bad for taking my profits on TQQQ prematurely at $156, but man did I dodge a bullet.
Hopefully it dips more and VIX returns to <25 then I'll re-enter TQQQ. Rinse repeat and only staying in TQQQ with decreasing volatility.

>> No.22276023

>>22275951
I hate that we live in a time where democrats are blocking wellfare

>> No.22276028

>>22275982
Respect for Orwell but Huxley had the clearer nightmare vision of the future.

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Sexists BTFO!

>So far this year, female managed funds on average delivered returns of -57 basis points compared with their benchmarks. All male run funds performed worse, with average returns of -164bp.

>“Even after adjusting for risk, female managed funds outperformed their male counterparts amid the coronavirus-related market swings,” said David Kostin, Goldman Sachs’ chief US equity strategist.

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Where's my delta-neutral long gamma gang

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>>22275712
>>22275626
>>22275568
>>22275489
>get in and out of UVXY
Oh fugggggg :DDDDD
>Take full profits at the red line
Uhhhh I bought MORE uvxy... how fucked am I?

>> No.22276113

>>22276062
is that the one where I buy good stocks and they go up over time ?

>> No.22276122

>>22276052
>funds managed for decades under male leadership
>add token woman
>press_release.jpg
>see girls are better than boys :^)

>> No.22276152

>>22274287
Dog eat dog

>> No.22276176

>>22276023
>stimulus
current state is Repubs have gone up to 1.3 trillion from 1 trillion
Pelosi is holding at 2.2 trillion

Repubs want to try to push a 500 billion skinny bill this week which won't pass obviously.

So 1.3 to 2.2 is the divide still. I'd guess a 1.5-1.8 eventual bill skewing to whoever wins the PR battle in the next 2 weeks since congress is back fucking up things in dc.

>> No.22276182

>>22276113
It's not caring about the direction of a stock move, as long as it moves I make money

>> No.22276189

>>22276028
Yeah, Brave New World is spooky if read today.

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>>22274767
>buying TSLA
>at all time high

>> No.22276253

>>22276083
I put red line at 35 because vix often pulls a u-turn around that point. The spikes up to 60+ are more rare so counting on them is lower chance of success.

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France is slowly going back in lockdown, as is the UK. Schools around me have been closing left and right. Buy pharma stocks, they'll be back up.

>> No.22276255

>>22276189
what % of californians are on an anti anxiety or anti depression medication?

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>>22276255
all of them?

>> No.22276277

>>22276182
I'm doing the one where if they go sideways I make money, and if they go up I make even more money

>>22276189
bro no one reads books lmao

>> No.22276305

>>22276189
>1984 was not the instruction manual
>Brave New World is

>> No.22276306

>>22276277
So you're long delta and long gamma got it.

>> No.22276307

>>22276254
please no, i just need one more week of green

>> No.22276309

business idea: make it illegal to sell stocks for a lower or the same price as you bought it

>> No.22276320

>>22276254
when will this nightmare end? i just want shit to go back to normal, bros...

>> No.22276335

>>22276254
Strict lockdown conditions have to be kept for the effect to persist. You either need to let it rip like Sweden or have a conformist and considerate culture like Japan.

Europe is obviously going to have larger flare ups going forward than America. Regardless of what is the right move or not, expect EU to have problems in many of the hard lockdown countries into EOY.

>> No.22276339

>>22276276
That can't be true.

Why does my tap water taste weird?

>> No.22276340
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>>22275087
Looks nice anon, happy birthday. Fuck jannies.

>> No.22276341

>>22276028
and he got super into mescaline and other psychedelics at one point, cool guy

speaking of mescaline, what's the deal on the CLF leaps I see occasionally on here?

>> No.22276347

>>22276052
How does that number change if you exclude Cathie Wood? In fact, how many other female fund managers are there even?

>> No.22276352
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>>22276320
This is the new normal, didn't you hear?

>> No.22276362

>>22273840
GameStop is getting short squeezed but that anon is too late to the party. Risk vastly outweighs reward here.
>>22273854
>another analyst thinks AAPL is a buy
>somehow this BTFOs AAPL bros
Kill yourself
>>22274572
Who actually bought wirecard?
>>22274767
Just hold nigger. If you need a confidence booster go listen to Cathie Wood shill her $7,000 pre-split price target

>> No.22276366

why are you not holding $BLPH right now anons. moon imminent.

>> No.22276392

>>22276253
i figure i'll ask here and see if i can get a quicker answer than googling:

what sort of fees and conditions are there in regards to holding a short on VXX? because of the decay i'd like to focus on shorting the spikes but idk how much that would cost holding it over possibly months or if i can say short around 35-40 and if it goes up to 80 are they gonna fuck me and liquidate my shit or will they let me just be super down for a while since i know for a fact it will go back down lower? or do i always need a way to be prepared for the once-in-a-decade event of that happening?

>> No.22276411

>>22276320
>lockdown
>nightmare

kek, as someone who loves tech it's great seeing the economy shift from outdated meatspace into digital a bit more. Online sales, direct to consumer, work from anywhere, etc are super efficient trends. Half of retail brick stores going under is great long term.

>> No.22276419

>>22274897
Good and packed Outside full of Sunday morning church goers and got me some good banana caramel pancakes

>> No.22276441

>>22276362
if you're playing the short squeeze (assuming it does happen), how long are you waiting to sell? Is it something that could continue to rise for a few days? Or will it be a quick pop up?

>> No.22276450

>>22275126
interactive brokers if you can deal with the suboptimal interface, the underlying features are good but the UI is very dated and clunky, I use the mobile app because it's the least shit

>> No.22276451

>>22276419
Splendid!

>>22276392
I don't know the answer to this. I never short vix.

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Ive seen true horror

>> No.22276485

>>22275480
Digits confirm red Tuesday

>> No.22276491

>>22276122
This. They cooked the statistics

>> No.22276496

>>22276362
it's not really late to the part at this point tbhwy. it's unlikely to dump or anything, worst case scenario is that it just stagnates or crabs upwards. the changes currently being made to the company are positive, not negative. their revenue is going up, not down. if you put a time limit of around february (after the holidays) then i don't think the risk is all that high. i highly doubt they're going to crater 50% while selling the new consoles and having these new big investors involved.

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>>22274767
Tesla will be under $200 by EoW if not by EoD Tuesday.

Everyone that bought Tesla deserves exactly whats coming to them.

No relevant news, no R&D, pure vaporware, redd*t, pure faggotry....we warned you plenty.

Pull out now while other faggits think battery day means anything other than more vaporware or unironically, a literal battery.

>> No.22276503

>>22276392
Just buy puts. Too many factors can fuck up a short and you have no idea what the maximum downside is

>> No.22276510

>>22275480
Digits confirm crab tuesday

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>>22276309
>business idea: make it illegal to sell stocks for a lower or the same price as you bought it

Even better: tax realized loss

>> No.22276523

>>22276411
sure, i just don't want to die or have irreparable organ damage. i also like my parents staying alive too. i feel like i have OCD now with how much i wash my hands on a daily basis and drink orange juice every day.

>> No.22276526

>>22274767
You'd have 15+ shares if you bought at 392.

>> No.22276534

>>22276501
idk everyone in the world talks about tesla stock. That's pretty bullish for the brand.

>> No.22276552

>>22276451
the problem is you can't trade the VIX directly otherwise i'd agree with you. it's probably why (((((they))))) don't let you because it's be the easiest most consistent way to make money ever, just buy around 10-12 and sell around 20-24 over and over forever until rich.

>> No.22276554

>>22276523
Vitamin D is really important. Get some sun or pills. In emotionless sense. The disruption from covid is probably long-term positive. This could have been a 2% IFR disease or kille

>> No.22276564

>>22276255
I think they just smoke weed to deal with it. It's the New York City people who those drugs

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>>22276320
Its not that bad if you're not an attention whore desu

You can buy anything including groceries online, play video games, watch movies, and work out at home. My 3 year savings have doubled in what? 7 months or so?

The lockdowns are the best thing that's happened to me desu.

>> No.22276606

>>22276554
This could have killed something like 2% of children infected or 2% of adults etc. This wasn't the worst pandemic possible. So actually going through this and realizing society susceptibility and weakness to handle it is really good long term.

I think we lucked out on this one as far as what it could have been and how it will hopefully prepare us for the future one.

On the topic of tech. I think the trends in people using more tech services is positive. A lot of things have been grandfathered in that are inefficient but baked in. This kind of disrupted a lot of things and will lead to some long-term efficiency improvements.

This is no where near as bad as it could have been.

>> No.22276614

>>22276552
trading the VIX directly would influence the VIX, that's literally why you can't trade the VIX directly, because then it would no longer be the VIX
fuck me why do i even bother posting here, the stupid just ruins my mood

>> No.22276617

>>22276457
did you run out of hot dogs or something

>> No.22276629

>>22276606
it's not over until we're past flu season. first wave in the US only caught the tail end of it.

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>>22276534
Being 20% down in 2 days, I'm pretty sure it shared off the RH e-thots and youtubers.

Tesla will become a zoomer hated brand and die off.

>> No.22276632

>>22276513
>paying taxes
>in 2020
who actually does this

>> No.22276635

>>22276554
yeah i try to get out for a half hour walk every day and i drink 1% milk that has vitamin D in it.

>>22276577
im an introvert too dude im just afraid of getting sick. i don't even want a vaccine i'd be happier with some pills or something where if i get it i can go to the doctor and they can go "yep you got it, here take these pills, you'll feel like shit for a week or two but then you'll be fine no worries".

>> No.22276652

>>22276630
nah. little kids know who elon is and under 25 it's easily the #1 car brand.

>> No.22276655

>>22276450
So plus500 is the best? Or should i use another one? T. Newfren

>> No.22276659

>>22276630
that S&P rejection is the nail in the coffin.

>> No.22276676

>>22276501
>No relevant news, no R&D, pure vaporware, redd*t, pure faggotry....we warned you plenty.
KYS

>> No.22276681

>>22276052
How many of these funds opened 6> months ago?

>> No.22276684

>>22276655
???
did you even read his post

>> No.22276686

>>22273973
Nobody is worrying about the market.

>> No.22276687

>>22276659
just proves QQQ is the chad index

>> No.22276744

Now I'm not saying I want more deaths or nothing but I do hope the cases spike next week and really spike this fall/winter. Fuel the fear. Sending tech stocks (aka apple) back to 300 per. I wanna end 2020 with a nice cash haul.

>> No.22276746

>>22276686
fear levels are probably at a reasonable point for the uncertainty through election. Stimulus passing by end of september would bring a good bit of confidence back.

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>>22275087
Happy birthday cohort.

>> No.22276780

>>22276552
>it's probably why (((((they))))) don't let you
(((((((((((they))))))))))) have nothing to do with this. Vix isn't an equity, currency, or commodity. You can't trade it directly because it isn't a tradeable thing. It's a measurement.

>> No.22276793

>>22276687
is there any reason i should trade the Q's instead of trading individual companies like AMD? also the VIX is really interesting, even disregarding the ability to trade it directly, it seems like it marks good dip buying opportunities in general. when it got into the 80's it pretty much perfectly timed the bottom of the covid crash. in the 40's-50's is also a good marker of the good dips to buy in non-crisis times. something to think about.

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>>22276635
I just bought kN95 masks and put it under a nicer looking mask that keeps it snug and wear glasses. Also, if i go to crowded areas I wear goggles.

Not only do I look like a badass Mad Max character, everyone else around looks about the same so don't care.

So far healthy af. I also got a half mask with a P100 filter just in case if Coronita-chan ever mutates or really goes apocalypse mode in the winter.

The 1st vaccine will be guaranteed bullshit.

I'll wait for version 2.0 when they patch the bugs.

All we have to do is literally stay alive and find things to do to kill the boredom which isn't terrible

>> No.22276827

>>22276793
because market indexes outperform most people doing retarded individual picks like XOM or something.

>> No.22276841

>>22276577
Video games are fucking garbage tho

>> No.22276845

>>22276793
No reason at all. VGT and XLK exist too. ARKK is a nice side same with SOXX.

You can do picking or index depending on how much you like something and other factors. Option liquidity is insane in QQQ compared to stocks.

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This cute little girl has funnily enough kept me in the green on Friday. I love her.

>> No.22276900

FLOATING FIRE
GOLDEN WIRE
SILVER TRAILS
FLASHING SPIRE
GUNS A CRACKING
BUMS A SMACKING
CAT O TAILS
WHIPS A CRACKING
https://youtu.be/Rd3vwwXArMQ

>> No.22276904

>Japanese boomers were the ones gamma squeezing TSLA the whole time
With SP inclusion probably delayed to December at best, TSLA is going on a slow painful fall back to 100-200 with a slight bump near battery jesus day. It will be slow to POOMP call buying and make put buying worthless.
Next year it will sink below 100 when its boipussi is ravaged by better competitors in cars, batteries, and solar.

>> No.22276915

>>22276827
any good articles on this i can read? i just want something good to enact a DCA dip-buying strategy on for swing trading. something like every 5% QQQ dips i buy some, then sell half on a full retracement or some keltner band level or something.

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I only respect yamamoto souichirou

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>>22276841
You could Play better games then?

There's plenty of fun games. As a standard, the less black people in the game or in the development team, the better the quality of the story desu.

>> No.22276950

I recently read about Michael Burry calling index funds the next major bubble.
>This is very much like the bubble in synthetic asset-backed CDOs before the Great Financial Crisis in that price-setting in that market was not done by fundamental security-level analysis, but by massive capital flows based on Nobel-approved models of risk that proved to be untrue
>Trillions of dollars in assets globally are indexed to these stocks
>The theater keeps getting more crowded, but the exit door is the same as it always was. All this gets worse as you get into even less liquid equity and bond markets globally

As passive investments gains in popularity, I wonder if there is something to his fear.
What does /smg/ think?

>> No.22276972

>>22276904
nah It's gonna be over 400 eod on tuesday. Zero parts of the long thesis has been hurt. It's valued on AI self-driving, brand, and innovation rate advantage.

>> No.22276993

>>22276347
They'll never show the median difference cuz it won't conform to the narrative

>> No.22277010

>>22276950
I think there are large mistakes caused by index moving everything on big movement days. They get "fixed" quite quickly though within days or in March within a month or so.

>> No.22277014

>>22275951
So everyone gets $900? Not too bad

>> No.22277024

>>22276904
>better competitors in cars
like what? what auto manufacturer is truly competing with Tesla right now?
>better competitors in batteries
this will not happen
>solar
hardly matters, this market is far from important with the current technology but they're already far ahead from an integration standpoint

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who here alll in on GME?

>> No.22277044

>>22276943
There are no good games. Weeb shit has always sucked and call of tranny is all the west does now.

>> No.22277054

>>22275671
>what is being 32 like ??
If you're into /fit/ related then you start getting "old man strength". Getting a 1/2/3/4 lift is a lot easier post-30 but you ironically look worse

>> No.22277068

>>22277010
For instance in the covid drop. One of the big early down days involved everything getting hit.

GILD which had remdesivir at the time as one of the only hopes (before scientific studies etc) went down the first day of index sell offs. The next week of index sell offs it was green above that low despite the wholesale drops in index.

People will pick out mistakes in the index movements and reverse them. It just takes time. You literally get paid to spot them as well so there is incentives to do so.

>> No.22277069

>>22276950
Index funds have always been the enemy of hedge and mutual funds because it threatens their very existence. And while its bad that the money doesn't go into bonds, it isn't the fault of index funds. It is very much a failure of the Fed and fiscal policy that has basically forced investors, conservative and risky, to increasingly have to put their money into riskier assets like stocks to not be left behind.
As a backend to a portfolio its basically required unless you have so much capital already that you can go fully into muni bonds, art, real estate, etc.
You can complain all you want about underperformers like Boeing being cushioned by ETF zombies but this wouldn't matter if bankruptcy was ever a real threat anymore and companies couldn't pull a TSLA or UBER and go a decade without turning a profit because of access to stupid easy credit.

>> No.22277079

TQQQ CHADS REPORT IN. WE WILL RISE AGAIN. TQQQ BEST ETF IN HISTORY OF MANKIND.

>> No.22277103

>>22277039
me but it's prob gonna be a slow unloading of shorts up to November unless we get something crazy like share buybacks or a big vote

>> No.22277117

>>22277014
I hope so, I pay ridiculous taxes to this government. If they can give every unemployed jerkoff $1200 they can give me $900 for actually putting money in the system

>> No.22277123

SPY = $275B in assets
TQQQ = $6.5B in assets

Reminder that majority of traders are stupid and settle for subpar unleveraged returns. Perfect time to get into TQQQ after latest dip. Leverage is only way to get wealthy unless you born into the 0.1%

>> No.22277138

>>22277069
>ETF zombies
both the bane and boon of GME right now, our fate decides on the market not dumping and ruining Q2

>> No.22277142

>>22276780
>>22276614
You fucking retards, the VIX is a derivative of the weighted price of OTM puts and calls. You can trade it indirectly by gamma scalping. Fuck no wonder everybody loses money on here when the most condescending fucks are the dumbest of all

>> No.22277147

>>22276513
>Even better: tax realized loss
That's what Germany is doing in 2021

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>>22276577
I've done nothing with this time but get fat and fail a class after failing to adapt to "distance learning". I can't study if I can't go to the library or gym or coffee shop.

>>22276890
I really wanted utz, I would have bought before the name change if I'd have known about it.

>> No.22277191

>>22277079
if the VIX ever hits 80 again im going all in on TQQQ, but until then im too worried about the downside. i guess we'll see what happens this week though, i'd start buying at the 200 EMA on the daily for sure if it ever got there.

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Covered calls expired worthless.
*sips*
Yup.

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>>22277024
>like what? what auto manufacturer is truly competing with Tesla right now?
VW, Mercedes, Ford, GM, etc.
>this will not happen
Ok :^)
>hardly matters, this market is far from important with the current technology but they're already far ahead from an integration standpoint
Reminder that TSLA's entire R&D budget is less than SNAP's.

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>>22277206
>Hes still shorting TSLA

>> No.22277261

>>22277147
Are they TRYING to summon the next Hitler into this world Jesus Fucking Christ

>> No.22277304

>>22277054
>If you're into /fit/ related then you start getting "old man strength". Getting a 1/2/3/4 lift is a lot easier post-30 but you ironically look worse
True. It's weird. I can't push myself as hard as I used to be able to, recovery time is longer, but strength continues to increase. I'm 36.

>> No.22277341

>>22276366
why am i not getting any (you)s i asked a good question.

>> No.22277343

>>22277044
play railroad empire
it's the best game

>> No.22277345

>>22277261
How do you figure?

>> No.22277362

>>22277241
Shorts made billions the past 2 days.
The TSLA options chains, which has really dictated the price and not LE MEME MAN, has significant Put volume at 380, 350, and 300 for Friday. Call volume is only significant at 400.
POOMP in midweek to tease 400 and then either end the week at 380, 350, or if things get bad, 300.

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>>22277024
>what auto manufacturer is truly competing with Tesla right now?
That's like asking what plane company is competing with Gulfstream or what pharma company is competing with Biogen.

Tesla sells fewer cars a year globally than F does in two weeks in the US alone. Tesla is a dwarf compared to VW or Toyota. Both companies now heavily investing to close the only moat that Tesla has, it's battery and ai.

Tesla is not a bad company, but it's not worth lmao 400 USD. It's a bubble and once the panic starts we will see a gigantic dip. When that will happen? No idea.

>> No.22277415

>>22277261
No. They just want smart people to leave the country.

>> No.22277416

>>22277054
man this gives me hope
could never break into 1/2/3/4
stall at 1/1.5/2.5/3 and life gets in the way, haven't lifted for a while I'll get back to it

>> No.22277423

>>22277193
NOOO you can't just collect free money!

Think about the hecking opportunity costerinos.

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>>22277362
>shorts made money for 2 days
>long made money for the past fucking YEAR
Woooow, I'm sure those shorts made all their money back. You fucking retarded piece of shit.

>> No.22277540

>>22277415
this. alot of regime takeovers in the past involved the slaughter of the educated and journalists. today with shit like EU/UN/NATO that's a little harder. instead drown them in a sea of brown and tax the shit out of them until they submit or leave and buy the news. once all that is left is obedience the regime takeover is complete.

>> No.22277565

>>22277511
Swinging is always good based on momentum. Pigs are what are slaughtered. Anyone "HODLING" TSLA above 200 is a lifetime bagholder.

>> No.22277610

>>22276352
Return to new normal, huh.

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>>22277206
So what's stopping these companies from listing these cars in America then? "They could if they wanted to" is not an argument. There are key specs in most but not all of these automobiles listed that make these cars nearly unusable in america. I want to believe you know what they are but since you posted this in the first place, I don't think you do.
>Ford, GM
Nope, Ford and GM had over a decade to try and compete with them and take them seriously but instead them and the oil companies shorted them the whole time and have lost bigly in the long term on it. Look at Ford over the past 5 years, you might as well tell me Macy's and JCP are going to compete with Amazon at some point.
>Ok :^)
could've just said "you are correct"
>the solar thing
they are not the primary ones doing the R&D, it wouldn't go on their budget so yeah of course it appears low.
>>22277362
>shorts have made billions in the last two days
zoom out
>>22277402
The "bubble", from a purely company goods standpoint (i.e. disregarding the softbank stuff), is not due to anything related to auto sales. The only reason this might have an effect on their stock lately is because they are very far ahead other auto manufacturers in online sales.

>> No.22277629
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>>22276513
>>22277147
>>22277261
>>22277415
>>22277540
>Germany increasing taxes on trading and investing
>Trump trying to pass a 10k tax credit on investment losses
I hope he gets it though. It could change investing forever.

>> No.22277649

>>22277540
I wish they'd slaughter journos and the "educated"

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>>22277565
I sold my TSLA on Tuesday because it entered a down cycle, but I am still bullish on TSLA and will buy back in soon.

>> No.22277701

>>22277629
what would it mean for canadians who already have tax-free stock tradings

>> No.22277718

>>22277148
Chuck is based. Good choice.

>> No.22277732

>>22277649
the probelm is it's the educated not the "indoctrinated" it's the free thinkers that are deemed dangerous.

>> No.22277764

>>22277612
>So what's stopping these companies from listing these cars in America then?
Import taxes. TSLA's entire business model has been to suck the tits off of all subsidies and then hide behind import taxes and mandates.
TSLA will be irrelevant in even the EV sector alone in Europe before we even get to 2021. Ford and GM just took their time because it isn't a feasible market without the subsidies but TSLA's massive overvaluation has made them want a piece of that.
TSLA's prospects are unironically purely going to be in China as long as the CCP doesn't get bored of them.
>they are not the primary ones doing the R&D, it wouldn't go on their budget so yeah of course it appears low.
What?

>> No.22277773

>>22277701
>Investors pay Canadian capital gains tax on 50% of the capital gain amount.
>tax free
Uhhh what? Is someone not paying the crown?

>> No.22277833

>>22277773
Canada has TFSA accounts where there are no capital gains or taxes on dividends. You get $6000 room a year.

>> No.22277847

>>22277773
it's in a tax-free retirement account
many countries have this kind of system
it means that you can't take the money out until you're a million years old

>> No.22277883

>>22277024
>like what? what auto manufacturer is truly competing with Tesla right now?
Outside US rich and Norway & Switzerland people simply are not going to (be able to) pay for a Tesla
VW & Renault etc. alternatives are literally half the price and those cars are already more expensive than ICEs. The average customer simply doesn't have the car budget for a Tesla.
With Chinese alternatives Tesla can even start to lose out the rich in Asia.

>> No.22277886

>>22277773
Ignore him, he's been spamming his abject misunderstanding of tfsas and cucknadian trading tax in general in every thread for a while. Let him get fucked and come crying, that'll be a laigh.

>>22277847
Completely wrong.

>> No.22277897

>>22277847
Canadian TFSA accounts allow you to take out the money whenever you want. You get the contribution room back on January 1st of the next year. For example, if I remove $10,000 in earnings in September I get $10,000 additional contribution room on Jan 1st of next year. TFSA is probably the best part of living in Canada up there with free health care - get rekt americans.

>> No.22277924
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So, should we be concerned about inflation or deflation in the future?
To me, it seems like QE is being used to fight deflation and trying to encourage spending while reducing the burden of debt.
But there are people out there that we are looking at the Fed losing the battle to deflation due to foreign banks. That is why the Fed isn't necessarily trying to prevent deflation in the future but is actively fighting it.

I remember during March there was discussion in /biz/ about this. The conclusion was we either get higher inflation in the near future which will lead to hyper inflation. Or we will see deflation caused by QE which will bring us around to higher (hyper?) inflation when/if a normal or new normal is reached in the credit market.

>> No.22277941

>>22277833
>>22277847
Thats just an IRA. Tax credit doesn't affect retirement accounts. Tax credit means you can deduct up to 10k of losses from your income taxes. Right now you can only deduct up to 3k per year (but you loses will roll over, so you can deduct 3k more next year). Raising it to 10k would be big for little people because then there is less risk when they take losses.

>>22277897
Canada is fucking shit mate. Cope more retard.

>> No.22277978

>>22277897
it's offset by how horrible our taxes are
imagine paying like ~40% income taxes as middle class lol

fuck.

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>>22277897
>Canadian TFSA accounts allow you to take out the money whenever you want
>Roth IRA can only take out earnings tax free if you are 65 or older or meet very specific requirements in terms of your health or medical situation
I don't want to be old to the point where I can't see how I will spend all my money before I die.

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>>22276255
Heh well I’m on several and I know several others who are on some. But I also know people who think meds are for weak people and shit like that.

>>22277718
Is it? Fuck it I’ll try his course.

>> No.22278040

>>22277629
>Trump trying to pass a 10k tax credit on investment losses
Based because I've lost about that much since starting this hobby in April.

>> No.22278070

>>22277897
Speaking of TFSA, how come this even exists in a place like Canada? Is it to keep the few rich people that haven't moved away already or what?

>> No.22278086

>>22277990
TFSA is only limited to like ~$60K contribution to the typical person in their 20s and increases by ~$5K a year
for canadians who want to make it, they still gotta make a cash account and pay capital gain taxes.

the dream is to turn $50K into a million in a TFSA though. And so on since it's tax free.

>> No.22278092

>>22277897
oh I was wrong about the Canadian thing
whoops

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>>22277924
I’ve also seen headlines
>The Ultra-Rich are Going into Cash because they fear... inflation?
>Powell promises inflation: The market doesn’t buy it

>>22277044
Have you tried the original Zelda on a modded wii?

>> No.22278145

>>22277924
as a normal person in my late 20's wtf am i supposed to do about any of this shit?

>> No.22278161

>>22274477
Half-Life 3 confirmed.

>> No.22278164

>>22278070
irrc it was introduced as a tax cut to benefit everyone when in reality it only benefits middle class and the rich the most because who the heck expects the poor to be able to invest ~$5K-$10k a year on top of $3K rent a month and whatever in Toronto

>> No.22278167

>>22277629
>Trump trying to pass a 10k tax credit on investment losses
What the fuck show me proof on this.
No way.

That would be so fucking bullish. Just go put $1000 per month into a bioshit pennystock. If it dumps, hold until the end of the year and then realize your losses in the ones that never pumped.

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>>22278145
Buy stocks and some shiny rocks just in case
Long term money is poison no matter the scenario

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horse

>> No.22278232

>>22278167
Right now its 3k. But hes trying to get something passed, nothing concrete yet. It would definitely help the market if we increased the limits. He wants Americans to put all their money in the stock market, not in savings accounts.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/14/white-house-considering-tax-incentive-for-more-americans-to-buy-stocks.html

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>>22277764
>hide behind import taxes and mandates
??????
So would you prefer the country doesn't favor domestic manufacturing and let foreign companies run roughshod on the industry and take all the profits for themselves? These are what import tax prevents. GM/Ford pretty much let it happen anyway over the last 20 years by making inferior products compared to Honda/Toyota and more.
>EV Sector in Europe
This was always the 3rd priority of their 3 priorities, the European EV market obviously has the least growth potential and highest amount of pre-existing favorites in their market.
>it isn't a feasible market without the subsidies
because the subsidies are there for new EV manufacturers that sell below some level of automobiles, which these savings were passed onto the cost of the original Model 3. Yes Tesla bled these dry, any competitive company would and should.
The last two points aren't even worst conversing over since you're not informed on the matter.
>>22277883
The europe portion of this is mostly correct. Tesla will not be a player among middle to lower middle class europeans. The Chinese portion is incorrect as the Chinese do not spend their money the same way that Europeans and a portion of Americans do. Even if Tesla weren't the best EV in the Chinese market (it is, by a good portion over Nio, Li, etc.), there is an extra level of buying for the name brand that is not seen even in America aside the highest level consumers that would be seen in China due to the fundamental nature that most companies that do business in China cannot meet demand needs. This is why chinese knockoffs exist in the first place, such a small amount of companies meet the demand of China that they make their own crap to satisfy the demand. Once Tesla really gets their foot there, Nio and Li and whoever else will become footnotes.

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>>22278201
I already made my money on that but I wish you the best

>> No.22278237

>>22277897
>Free healthcare
Maybe for all the shit skins flooding in. Enjoy slaving for turd worlders to propagate.

>> No.22278249

>>22277193
should roll before expiration

>> No.22278255

>>22277897
So you save a few thousand a year in trading taxes. Imagine being so shitty at investing this makes any difference. And how much extra do you pay for your """free""" healthcare?

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Keep buying tqqq? I have 1k in it now

>> No.22278273

>>22278249
I usually just wait until a big greed day, then sell calls that expire the next week for maximum premium.

>> No.22278278

>>22278145
Understand your position.
If we go to inflation and the hyper inflation. Debt during this time is positive since the value of your debt is lower than it would be if we were coasting with low inflation or in deflation.

If we have deflation, you debt has more value, impacts equities, housing prices. etc.

>> No.22278301

>>22278105
I don't need to replay a game I played multiple times decades ago.

>> No.22278326

>>22278232
What if instead of stimulus we just give people stonks?

>> No.22278342

>>22278326
they'd just sell them, not bullish

>> No.22278345

>>22278235
>I made money on it once so I can't do it again
ngmi buy horse calls

>> No.22278363

>>22278145
Life a spartan lifestyle and invest every spare dollar. Buy a home to have equity when prices go to $1M for a starter home in Bumfuck, Ohio and only banks and the elite own homes and rent them out to the poors.

>> No.22278368

>>22278267
I hope this is staged

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If odd numbers, market is down
If evens, market is up

Check em

>> No.22278426

>>22278267
how do we protect the smart people from getting sick but still ensure that people like these retards still 100% get the plague? holy fucking shit dude i hate the majority of humanity

>> No.22278485

im going to bed lads, lets hope for a green day tomorrow

>> No.22278521

>>22278363
i still live with my parents, who own a nice home that has already more than doubled in value, mortgage all paid off for a while now in a really nice white/jew town with good schools. i'll probably just continue living here after they're gone.

i just want a comfy chill lifestyle where i hang out in my bedroom most of the time investing in my hobbies, creating art, playing vidya, occasionally smoking some weed or drinking wine, drinking coffee every morning, eating tasty food, etc. is that so much to ask? why does the world have to keep being such a fucking asshole about everything? i just want to be left the fuck alone and to not be in constant fear of my life for one reason or another.

>> No.22278542

>>22277997
>>22278105
i wonder how much she charges by the hour.

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>>22278419
>satania with huge milkers
>sweat man intensifies

>>22278232
>Something from valentines day
that was 7 months ago, I won't hold my breath

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>>22278267
Would be funny if the narcissistic f*moid didn't keep panning back to her cringy reaction faces.

>> No.22278608

>>22278521
you sound like a sheltered privileged fuck. the world doesnt owe you anything and you had better come to terms with that soon if you want any semblance of a productive life

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>>22276523
Why are you into stocks if you can't even read basic stats and do basic risk assessment from it? Unless you're already sick and past the average life expectancy you really don't have to worry about it any more than you have to worry about the flu. You're not ganna make it with this mindset, stop being so scared of everything. You could have a fucking plane crash into your house within the next 5 minutes but you have to weigh out the statistical likelihood of that happening before preparing for it and panicking.

>> No.22278638

Futures opens in 30 minutes. What's it gonna be, boys? Pump or dump?

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>>22278267
this mask meme has decreased my low faith in humanity by a full basis point.

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guys I hate to say it
but I think im gonna sell my miners tuesday
SPX dipping has brought down gold stonks too despite the spot price and dooming debt/inflation.
There will likely be a period of deflation as well before the FED inflation target even kicks in.
Markets too volatile

Good luck bros, but I'm gonna hop off this wild ride for now. Been in it since April.

Respect to all the diamond hands.

>> No.22278691

>>22278521
Your problem is there are billions of people who want what you have and it's up to you to keep them from getting it. Just "chillin" probably won't be enough in the coming decades

>> No.22278692

>>22278638
pump

>> No.22278715

>>22278678
I went short on GOLD friday kek

>> No.22278728

>>22278638
do futures still open even though the stock market is closed tomorrow?

>> No.22278729

>>22278545
I get anxious seeing relay baton pass. In highschool track team I was endlessly terrified of dropping the thing. Stupid team mate would slap it in to your hand and immediately let go before you closed your fingers around it.

>> No.22278732

>>22278678
Fair enough man. In a short term time frame, you may be right, if only because Congress is unwilling to pass more stimmy. Though I think that will change after the next big deflationary crash.
God bless ya and good luck.

>> No.22278742

>>22278728
They will be open normal hours until tomorrow at 1pm eastern when they close until 5pm eastern

>> No.22278747

>>22278729
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV8GNQTOyBU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV8GNQTOyBU

>> No.22278748

Now that we know SoftBank is the responsible for this bull run, what happens next?

>> No.22278755

>>22278638
Both, they do this to test to bounds.
T. Nintendo dude

>> No.22278763

>>22273893
>>22273908
Such is life.
Pussy is great but the thing that comes attached to them are fucking annoying

>> No.22278783

>>22278691
i have an engineering degree and job and i pay my taxes, what more do you expect from me? im not a NEET or something.

>> No.22278839

>>22278748
>melt-up because of fear of FOMO and TINA
Continue melting up. Softbank unlocked the gamma squeeze cheat codes to glorious effect with TSLA. Literally wiped out all of its losses from years of WeWork losses in a single quarter because of dumb hedgie algos and robinzoomers.

>> No.22278964

>>22278839
are dumb hedgie algos the reason GME has a >100% short interest too because i'm still trying to wrap my head around why GME is like that. Even retard shorts wouldn't be clueless enough not to cover by now when they can short anything else in the market instead.

either this was all a massive bait (fake statistic) to get people to buy into GME or some hedge funds are about to lose a lot of money.

>> No.22278968

whats going to stop bond bull run from stopping once interest rates don't go negative and inflation hits 2.5+% targets?

>> No.22279041

>>22274910
i’d wait a bit and close with a smaller lose

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>>22278267
Keep buying

>> No.22279051

>>22278968
Interest rates are negative in real terms if the fed rate is 0% and they "hit" their 2.5% target (they never have, by the way)

>> No.22279078

>>22278521
Get a load of this faggot

>> No.22279105

>>22279051
Yes, wouldn't it end the bull run in bonds.

>> No.22279111

>>22275087
i wish you had at least dubs, then I’d know your wishes might come true, but alas

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Bought some blue fin tuna sashimi from the Seiwa Market with some of my gains. Gonna sear it and eat the lunch of all the kids that lost money this week.

>> No.22279180

>>22278783
Your tax rate should be 100% due to your white male privledge

>> No.22279218

THREAD THEME

https://youtu.be/HJt9xW-2GXI

>> No.22279240

Is the bull run over?

>> No.22279272

>>22279226
>>22279226
>>22279226
New

Created too early. Sorry lads

>> No.22279278

are we going to get some comfy oil crashing threads this week do you think?

>> No.22279697

>>22278105
I would lick her shithole, if you know what I mean

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