How to make it in music industry?

[Anonymous No.22155266]

Seeing if any anons with connections In the industry frequents biz. Seems like all the algorithms on streaming services are rigged for big labels artists.

[Anonymous No.22155298]

As what? A musician? I know a thing or two.

[Anonymous No.22155318]

self promote, don't be dull.

interactions are great and create solid base.

[Anonymous No.22155328]

>>22155266
Yup. Soundcloud and spotify algorithms got fucking raped around late 2017/early 2018. I made absute garbage meme rap on SC early 2017 and got an insane following for such little effort until one day the algorithms changed and my new plays plummeted. Friend and I kept trying to grind but at this point the entire industry is disgustingly pay-to-play. Literally every conceivable avenue has a significant paywall. Even the ones you haven’t thought of and will stumble upon in like 2 months and think “wow this is such a gem, this could be my ticket!!!” has been absolute kike shit for over two years. We have reached peak Weimar.

[Anonymous No.22155349]

>>22155266
Network your ass off. That's the whole thing these days. The more people you know the further you'll go.

Aim for a licensing/sync deal, don't worry about labels. Meet people who put together playlists at Spotify.

[Anonymous No.22155390]

>>22155266

take it from someone who has toured the world and has about 100,000,000 streams on spotify:

It's rigged. There is no money. You tour to grind cash and that's the only way. It's fucked. I quit the band because it wasn't worth the fucking work anymore. In what world is that fair? 100m fucking streams and I'm still poor living in a shitty apartment, still stuck in a label contract and uninspired to make music anymore.

[Anonymous No.22155395]

Honestly the only money to be made in music now is to get lucky on shitcoins, make 6 figures, and pay top dollar for a really professional looking website that lists paid Spotify playlists (which you secretly own). Charge high schoolers out the ass for the chance to get big. You can’t beat the jew, so become one.

[Anonymous No.22155408]

>>22155266
never underestimate yourself

music builds character from all the suffering but the small rewards are often a snowball effect waiting to blow.

with that said, INTERACT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ON THE SOCIALS

you want to be appealing
(i'd think unless you have aspergers and cant take the daily attention that comes with "making it in the music industry")

[Anonymous No.22155577]

>>22155349
Any tips on where to find these ppl?

[Anonymous No.22155616]

>>22155328
So did you give up on music or are you still on the grind?

[Anonymous No.22155665]

>>22155395
Shitcoins would be okay If we developed a sure fire way to weed out pajeets scamming bizraelis. And as temping as being a jew is have to pass on that.

[Anonymous No.22155671]

>>22155577
Synagogues

[Anonymous No.22155710]

>>22155390
That sucks anon, if you want to share connections or drop a proton mail to offer mentorship that'd be cool, but sounds like industry Is so kiked that all the enjoyment has been sapped out

[Anonymous No.22155726]

>>22155671
Facts

[Anonymous No.22155812]

>>22155266
if you had any talent you wouldn't be asking us.

[Anonymous No.22155882]

>>22155328
I thought of a token idea for this last week.
You have a website called Artist of the Day (Beat of the Day for producers).
You buy AOTD tokens. The more percentage of tokens you have, the more likely you will be randomly chosen as Artist of The Day and be listed at the front of the site. So the lottery gives everyone a chance plus the demand to get listed increases token price. If you become a whale and only your music gets posted, the website will become less attractive and token demand will drop.

[Anonymous No.22155902]

>>22155390
>still stuck in a label contract
make however many shitty albums you need to get out of it.

[Anonymous No.22155920]

>>22155882
Gonna steal your idea. Thanks. Don't post your ideas online next time

[Anonymous No.22155943]

>>22155920
Go for it lol I don't have the competency to make it. Plus I just need a 5x with crypto to be done with all this shit.

[Anonymous No.22155955]

>>22155266
I unironically did and it's easy as fuck. Just don't be a retard and make friends with other artists and you can easily absorb their fanbases. Learn how to do as much of it by yourself as you can e.g. audio engineering, recording, producing, marketing, graphic design etc. The fewer things you have to pay to have done the more money you have for ads or to invest in equipment.
You really don't want to be in the industry though. If you're on 4chan and aren't a tourist, the music industry was not built for you. It's for the brain dead who don't mind selling their soul or being a puppet. Trust me on this.

[Anonymous No.22156008]

>>22155955
I want to make indie/synth pop music like Kids by MGMT. Any tricks on making catchy synth pop? I use Logic Pro X and currently have an album out on Spotify that's just instrumental but none of them are catchy.

[Anonymous No.22156409]

>>22155955
I learned how to track, mix and master my own material. Any tips for best use of funds to advertise? Best ways to meet musicians to steal their fans?

[Anonymous No.22156442]

>>22156008
IMO Problem is more of getting exposure. Catchy melodies is a trial and error thing. With more exposure can get feedback which will help tailor your sound.

[Anonymous No.22156444]

Bump

[Anonymous No.22156461]

>>22155390
and now tours dont even exist.

Forget it OP do it for the love. Just plow your gains into promotion and dont expect to see a penny in returns.

[Anonymous No.22156474]

>>22155616
I gave up, that friend I mentioned stabbed me in the fucking back and stole what little following we had by locking me out of our shared social media and rebranded it to his own bullshit. 3 weeks before george floyd he was ranting to me about how angry he was that his wife’s sister was “dating a nigger” (his own words kek), then for some reason when nig floyd died he did a complete 180 and became super pro-BLM and threatened to delete everything we’ve made if I didn’t change my opinions to agree with him.

[Anonymous No.22156480]

>>22155920
I like this idea too. If you do steal his idea give everyone in this thread a bag so we can be whales and help shill it

[Anonymous No.22156489]

>>22156461

this. live music is over. I was going to post your reply to him but I felt like I was being too depressing.

[Anonymous No.22156503]

>>22155812
>talent

aha hahaha

[Anonymous No.22156529]

>>22156442
I created a version of a song that instead of in the major key it is the minor key. Will I get sued for that and would it be for more than how much I profit off it?

Another song I want to release but it samples an obscure Indian song. I contacted them to use it but had no reply.

[Anonymous No.22156549]

>>22156529

my band covered an extremely famous song, pressed it on vinyl, etc, and never have been contacted by the estate or owner of the rights. We made a lot of cash off of it too.

[Anonymous No.22156573]

>>22156480
He can always airdrop some tokens. Since I provided the idea it'd be cool to receive like 1% of the tokens. I think that'd be totally fair.

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[Anonymous No.22156600]

>>22155266
Get work for a label, maybe do sound engineering or mastering, and if you want to make your own music do it as a side project.

Honestly the music world is fucked. Currently have work at a recording studio and I make more money doing work with dumb teenage girls who want to be the next Arianna Grande or dumber dudes who think their mumble shit folk rap rock really will definitely be good this time than I ever did trying to make music I actually wanted or playing gigs and shit.

[Anonymous No.22156603]

>>22156549
Shit this gives me hope! Was it on Spotify and everything?

[Anonymous No.22156613]

>>22156603

yep, still there too.

[Anonymous No.22156615]

>>22156474
Sucks man. Noticed the fake woke BLM very pervasive in music now. Watched the Freshman XL freestyles... all about social justice bullshit. I understand some of the lyricism is a reaction to late 2010s mumble rap but goddamn.

[Anonymous No.22156641]

>>22156613

with over 300k monthly listeners. youll be fine

[Anonymous No.22156702]

>>22156641
Do you have a protonmail? This isn't op but i'm trying to get into the music industry as well, and wanted to ask for some general advice and specific questions in regards to the industry.

[Anonymous No.22156708]

>>22156641
Nice! I currently have 0 monthly listeners as I've done no marketing but just wanted to put an album out so I felt like I'd done something.

[Anonymous No.22156740]

>>22156702

i dont, but i'll answer here if you have questions. definitely an inside man so ask away.

[Anonymous No.22156762]

>>22155266
Run a label or try to establish a high profile recording studio. Being a musician is the lowest chance to make it in music industry. That sounds like shit and it is, but it's true.

[Anonymous No.22156774]

>>22155577
Local man. Yes the internet means you can create communities but they're so much of that. Go to a bar, book a show, etc. promote. People are more willing to spend on stuff that's around them

[Anonymous No.22156778]

>>22156762

this guy right here

[Anonymous No.22156794]

>>22156740
I’m trying to become an R and B artist. What is basically the best way for me to make it. I am 25 years old but unironically look 18 (I don’t know if age matters but it probably does). I started making music recently.

Apart from just trying to make and produce my own music (I’m a pretty good singer as well), what else can I do? Also, should I continue to develop skills to learn music production better or am I better off just trying to pay people off for that?

Essentially, I’m trying to make it as fast as possible. Also, if you have any other way of contacting you, please let me know. I just really want this to happen. I have nothing else to live for

[Anonymous No.22156797]

>>22156573
I agree anon. Believe I should get 1% too because I started the thread that inspired you to post your idea ;)

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[Anonymous No.22156907]

>>22156794

The whole music industry has capsized from covid dude, you aren't going to do anything fast, you probably won't have a snowball's chance in hell if you really have zero idea of how to navigate the music world. I have been in this for over ten years and have musician friends currently in million dollar contracts, everything is at a stand-still. The only thing you can do right now is create music, and release it online. That's actually in your favor, since you can't perform right now.
The fact is, you can do everything right, have talent, be incredible, have fans, do the work, and still not make it. Just isn't how life is.

[Anonymous No.22156909]

How do i get back my motivation to finish up my tracks, or maybe even start producing again? I dropped out of college to go abroad and make some money to build my home studio, I worked hard as a fucking housekeeper, cleaning toilets and changing towels, but I was motivated to earn that money, build my own studio and start making music. I returned to my country, bought a lot of musical gear, did one remix in some remix competition and even was in top10 out of over 400 remixes, and guess what? Month afer month I was producing less and less, couldnt motivate myself to finish up a track... Now its been like 5 years and I didnt produce a single track in months... Idk what happened bros, I lost all motivation, I lost my passion. Musical talent is the only thing I have and Im fucking wasting it. How do I get it back guys? Please give me some ideas or suggestions.

[Anonymous No.22156954]

>>22155328
>until one day the algorithms changed and my new plays plummeted
idk sounds like a cope to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIyBFNjc1kY
i just started making autistic monkey music videos about link this month and its doing bretty good

[Anonymous No.22156968]

>>22156907
Thank you. By the way, by making it, I don’t necessarily mean getting rich off it. For me even if I have 1M followers and am not rich, I honestly wouldn’t care. I just want people to know who I am and listen to my music. Does that make sense?

I really don’t care about money since I have other ways to do that. So given this, of course apart from releasing music online, what would you say are the most important things I should focus on?

[Anonymous No.22157002]

>>22156968

making the music. making a style choice, a theme for your brand. make merch. post every day on social media. but seriously, if you're not making the music, don't even try.
sorry to sound blunt, but i'm 100% serious. You will always look back at it as time well spent, even if you didn't make it. The moment someone tells you that your music changed their life, it becomes worth it.

[Anonymous No.22157014]

>>22156907
Tips on best way to get actually listen to music posted online?

[Anonymous No.22157032]

>>22156797
Haha I actually have a couple good token ideas, wish I knew some devs.

[Anonymous No.22157055]

>>22157002
Heard labels have ways of finding new artists who have little traction and have ways of predicting if they will be famous? Is that true? Heard adam22 discuss it on his YouTube video on industry plants.

[Anonymous No.22157083]

>>22157014

you have to either do it completely organically, or with a label backing you with thousands of dollars of PR. I'm talking about $50k+ worth for a single release worth of press, no joke. Minimum. That doesn't even get you a real good amount of real fans. You get those by playing shows and building a brand. It's really an industry that's been stepped on so much over the years that there isn't much left to squeeze out of it.(in it's current modern format)

[Anonymous No.22157112]

>>22157055

They follow local scenes, and use algorithms on social media accounts of artists people listen to. IE: If a rapper is really a gang member, his popularity increases due to his dangerous persona. So he's marketable. Every artist has a shelf life of 4 years tops these days.
You can't even play shows to get fans, or to have a label plant show up, so there's no point. Sending in tapes does nothing, you either need to be connected to an already-famous musician, or work your way through the shit for years only to come out resembling a used condom

[Anonymous No.22157269]

>>22157112
Is there any truth to mk ultra conspiracy theories in the music industry? The video of Brittney spears Is creepy.

[Anonymous No.22157316]

>>22157269

yes. it's 100% real. it's less surprising than the average person would believe, but we've been programmed to not really care.

[Anonymous No.22157491]

>>22157032
I know a few developers. I could ask. If someone takes the gig would have no problem giving you 1%. Do you have a protonmail, would love to hear the rest of your ideas

[Anonymous No.22157592]

>>22157316
Any of this accurate or too schizophrenic

https://youtu.be/fO-FlTKz3gI

Donald Marshall, cloning, ect

[Anonymous No.22157838]

>>22157112
what do you think about building a collection of contacts (random influencers, instagram/facebook accounts/pages) and spamming them in a personal manner with a newly released music video?

[Anonymous No.22157957]

>>22157838
Probably better to offer them money but idk. Spamming will probably just annoy them

[Anonymous No.22158044]

>>22157491
I have Telegram t dot me/uhohlinky
I'm in the process of writing a white paper I'd want 5% of the tokens for that. It's a bigger project like Chainlink level scale involving a token, an app, and health insurance companies. It's actually more useful for humanity than Chainlink. Will also take a lot of marketing so it'd require someone serious but I'm certain it would work with the right team. I'm considering finding a failed crypto team to build the project prototype and show it to some VCs then onboard better devs/marketers.

Actually, just ask about the original Artist of The Day lottery token idea for now for 3% of tokens. If they're up for that I can expand on that with more projects that won't be too different once the ball is rolling. If that succeeds then I'd have them be part of the health insurance idea later on.

[Anonymous No.22158140]

kneepads then the needful

[Anonymous No.22158273]

>>22158140
Thank you pajeet sirs

[Anonymous No.22158302]

>>22156909
Maybe talk to a therapist. Doesn't sound like its the music.

[Anonymous No.22158402]

>>22156909
Listen to your old shit. If you think "Wow this is good" then continue. If you don't like it then don't make it. For me, the pay off is making something I can enjoy later.

[Anonymous No.22158423]

>>22156954
youtube has a different algorithm than music streaming, dunce mcfuckinhdunce

[Anonymous No.22158475]

>>22155266
Its not that hard. Make good music and connect with artists bigger than you.
Then slowly climb your way into labels while stayin independent.
>>22155328
Hard cope. SoundCloud is just dead. Spotify is doing amazing

[Anonymous No.22158494]

>>22155266
Im not an artist myself but i DJ. DJs are often need and prefer to buy their music, because they need top quality audio for playing clubs etc. If you make good house music and promote your tracks I believe you can make a buck selling tracks on bandcamp, beatport etc.

Any house/techno artists here that can confirm?

[Anonymous No.22158521]

>>22155390
Youre such a fucking faggot.
While spotify streams dont pay much 100m streams should give around 400k $
Either you got entirely fucked by your label because you signed a retarded contract or youre railing coke on the daily.

Either way youre a fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.22158569]

>>22156529
>created a version of a song that instead of in the major key it is the minor key. Will I get sued for that and would it be for more than how much I profit off it?
Might be.
Look at the katy Perry lawsuit its retarded
https://youtu.be/0ytoUuO-qvg

HOWEVER do wtf you want faggot. Everyone samples music just do it sneakily. Fucking hip hop /vaporwave /french house and many other genres live off pulling shit from records and fucking with it.

[Anonymous No.22158586]

>>22156549
>>22156603
If you cover something and officially release it without a license thats retarded.

Literally just get a license from distrokid its only 5 bucks a year for a license for a cover song.

[Anonymous No.22158597]

>>22156794
>I’m trying to become an R and B artist. What is basically the best way for me to make it
Stop calling it R and B. Call it RnB or R&B as if youre not retarded

[Anonymous No.22158637]

>>22156968
>. By the way, by making it, I don’t necessarily mean getting rich off it. For me even if I have 1M followers and am not rich
Youre absolutely bretarded.
1m followers is an amazing feat and you're being blinded by the artists you know.

How does 5 followers EOY sound?

I have 100k monthly listeners and i barely have 5k followers.

[Anonymous No.22158685]

>>22157002
>The moment someone tells you that your music changed their life, it becomes worth it.
I have a folder full of screencaps with people saying kind things like this.
Someone said they wanted to commit suicide but my music came on shuffle and they relaxed enough to feel there's some worth.

Its such a great feeling.

[Anonymous No.22158765]

>>22157055
>>22157112
>>22157838
This is all retarded and only good advice/info if youre trying to become a famous rapper/singer more pop -oriented.

If you make music for yourself theres a way longer shelflife to your music since youre not riding trends.
Become an electronic producer like boards of canada/apex. Or become a jazz musician /band like snarky puppy /velfpuck or become rnb shit like joji and many others. Many other shit you can make and you'll stay relevant if you stay true to yourself and your own sound instead of riding some trend.
Its literally the same as in crypto do you follow pnd shitcoins to get rich quick ( do you follow music trends?) Or do you play the long game and invest in proper projects. ( Do you stay true to yourself and your own sound)

>T 100k monthlies made collabs with big artists who are now stuck in dying genres but I keep growing and accumulating.

[Anonymous No.22158775]

>>22156794
HD videos full of girls, stoopid hooks, some BARZ and lota of 808s and hats. Make sure the hats are mixed as loud as you can tolerate. Put lil in name

[Anonymous No.22159463]

>>22158775
>as loud as you can tolerate
thats definitely not loud enough bud
>>22157269
>>22157316
watched it, i think many people realize that labels/moguls have power over the artists same as in Hollywood but this shit is way too far gone, she’s been basically stripped of most of human rights in the name of the „law”. i pity all the arists who fell for the shiny wonderful career meme and became slaves of this parasitic industry for life

[Anonymous No.22159840]

>>22157491
I also have a few ideas, but no competent devs. I only found incompetent Discord tranny devs asking for 35k per copy-pasted project when they can't code a simple ERC20 game without copy-pasting(if they manage to copy-paste it instead of stubbornly reinventing a square wheel like a bunch of special snowflakes).
bizhate protonmail

>>22155266
If you fags are going to make it big can you at least do something refreshing like Lindsey Stirling which combined that atrocious dubstep with violin music?
I'd love more hybrid music in the industry.

Also I'd love less whorish sounding singing voices, less of this generation's "sung like I just woke up from bed and I'm choking on cocks and fruit or I just got up from a hang over".
I never hear any energetic playful type of singing where they just improvise and progress.

I've heard more interesting singing and music during the pre-concerts when they do covers, tests, renditions and just mess around to stretch their vocal cords and their instruments' strings.

[Anonymous No.22160190]

>>22155266
i'll leave this here.

[Anonymous No.22160410]

>>22160190
Im actually working together with some jewish people on music. Honestly theyre extremely creative and good at music. anti-Semitism is just white midwit jealousy.

[Anonymous No.22161061]

>>22160410
Yep. Just a bunch of anti-semites and racists.

[Anonymous No.22161544]

>>22156954
shits kinda gay

[Anonymous No.22161595]

>>22155266
Being a tranny helps

[Anonymous No.22161652]

>>22155328
>entire industry is disgustingly pay-to-play. Literally every conceivable avenue has a significant paywall
paywall? what do you mean? soundcloud if your music is good they'll be listening . If you make shit music no one listens to you

[Anonymous No.22161708]

>>22155920
Just let /biz/ in on it early before anyone else and nobody will mind

[Anonymous No.22161717]

>>22156600
>work with dumb teenage girls who want to be the next Arianna Grande

Have you fucked any of them though

[Anonymous No.22161878]

>>22155266
Is there money in producing music for an artist, shooting videos with sexy women for clicks, and then retaining rights to the track? So if they blow up you can sell the rights to it, other wise you get some YouTube money

[Anonymous No.22161982]

>>22155390
>thinks he should get paid for being a glorified iPod
Lmao get rekt loser.

[Anonymous No.22162276]

>>22156954
No way kek I saw this on twitter man, youtube video was already thumbed up
Funny shit

[Anonymous No.22162519]

>>22155266
It’s a business. Like art (painting) talent and innovation are important but secondary to profitability. The algorithms you speak of are rigged to promote the products that will generate the most revenue for the big players who already have a stake. It isn’t rigged against anyone except in the sense that nobody owns you yet. If it’s still yours you won’t have access.