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>> No.21735985

benis

>> No.21736000
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Remember to sell some covered calls!

>> No.21736034

guys I want to be paid big money for owning a stock and still have the stock price go up a lot every day

>> No.21736039
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>>21736000
but i don't have enough money to buy 100 shares of the companies i'm comfy holding long term without being 50%+ invested in one company

>> No.21736071

>>21735393
I don't think you can do covered calls inside a 401k

>> No.21736077
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21736077

Where should I park my AAPL call profit?

>> No.21736090

>>21736034
Only way I could see this would be loaning to short sellers.

>> No.21736097
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21736097

Why do you keep using these degenerate torture fetish shit ratfag? You have a fucking problem.

>> No.21736099

>>21736077
AAPL

>> No.21736113

I have $150 of expendable income right now. What are some easy plays I can make to profit $50-100 next week?

>> No.21736135

>>21736097
I like it

>> No.21736141

>>21736071
they really don't want wagies to make it
Only wagie generated money gets to avoid the tax man, oh but only so much every year and you have to buy boomerstocks

>> No.21736160

Should I just liquidate everything and go 33/33/33 on FNGU TQQQ and SOXL on Monday?

>> No.21736200

>>21736099
That’s meta

>> No.21736224

>>21736200
yeah it’s what I’m doing, can’t think of anything better at this exact moment

>> No.21736229

SUNM, a TSX mining pennystock, has pumped 20% in the last couple days, because the indians said yes to more exploration

>> No.21736241

>>21736160
100% TQQQ

>> No.21736247

>>21736160
eh, coinflip that you are buying mid-rally or the top. Go for it.
just make sure you can take the risk. Don't gamble your rent money

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>>21736097
me made month paycheck shorting market this week :3 thats why it take killer instinct do that

also because it filters normies too many WSB posters here atm

>> No.21736301

1 TSLA bought at 1900
&
4 AAPL bought at 480

how far can this even take me

>> No.21736319

anyone else financially ruined here? I made around 3k since march, cashed out and spent it all on gatcha games and now I realized I could've used that to pay off by credit card debt that I piled up from gatcha games

>> No.21736331

Never done options before, don't understand them. That being said, should I buy a Tesla call for 2100 next week?

>> No.21736332

>>21736255
I don't think it does shit, we've still got the same amount of tourists.

>> No.21736345

>>21736224
I’m afraid of the steam running out soon; I know the hype train hasn’t pulled into the station yet but how much higher could the Siamese twins go? It’s hard to picture the euphoria taking AAPL far above $500 pre-split and the same for TSLA at $2150 (or even $2200, who knows how high the ceiling is on TSLA hype).

>> No.21736353

>>21736301
Living dangerously there. You should bought that a long time ago. Unless your a long term investor, should be fine.

>> No.21736386

>bought Apple at $158 and $250 In 2018 and March 2020
>only bought 5 shares each time
God fucking damnit I can’t believe I bought fucking XOM in 2018 instead of twice as much apple as I got

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FUCKING FUCK I'M SO ANGRY

ALSO IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GOING TO BE BUYING DIPS IF THEY STILL EXIST MONDAY IN:
>SNE
>ADM

>FB
>MSFT

>CAG?
>TTWO?
>UNH?

>>21735966
I remmebrr this one!

>> No.21736404

>>21736331

There is always an opportunity to make money with options. Always. Do not FOMO into something you dont understand because you think its your only chance.

>> No.21736425

>>21736386
Lmao boomers

>> No.21736435

>>21736353
"unless" im a long term investor? I'd have thought it would be the opposite

>> No.21736447

>>21736404
Unironically good advice but I can definitely learn options before Monday.

>> No.21736459
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Don't have money to buy 100 shares of Amazon to write covered calls on?

Why not take advantage of poor man's covered calls and learn a thing or two about long term options instead of playing the more dangerous weeklies?

A diagonal spread is an options strategy established by simultaneously entering into a long and short position in two options of the same type (two call options or two put options) but with different strike prices and different expiration dates.

For example, if I buy an AMZN 1/15/21 $3700 call for $185.00 per share. My breakeven would be $3885.

You now own this long term option, this is called a LEAP. Although, 4 months out isn't really a LEAP, it's more like a 2022 but that's besides the point.

You can now sell weekly calls for strikes ABOVE $3885 without ever having to worry about losing money.

For example, the AMZN 8/28 $3900 call is currently $1.94 a share. So that's $194 in the pocket for you, if AMZN doesn't hit $3900 by next Friday.

And you still keep your long term AMZN call because you have a strong belief that AMZN will continue to go up!

So let's say AMZN hit $3500 by Friday. That's great! Your AMZN 1/15/21 $3700 call gained value, AND you pocketed that $194 by selling the AMZN 8/28 $3900 call!

You repeat this every single week, raising the strike prices if the stock goes higher, and keep lowering your cost basis for that long term call.

Now let's say Amazon somehow hits $3900 and you get assigned the AMZN 8/28 $3900c. Well, in this scenario, most likely the theta will have crushed the $3900 call that you've sold by a little bit. So you can either buy back that call, or if you just let it get assigned, you pocket that $194 and you also pocket a $15 differential per share! Because your breakeven is $3885, and you'd be assigned at $3900. Meaning you'd be buying 100 shares at $3700 and selling it to the call buyer for $3900.

This is a great way to invest long term, but also make money in the short term!

>> No.21736480

>>21736113
Apple 630c 9/4

>> No.21736483

>>21736077
Unironically buy end of puts a few months out. Do you think it will continue to go parabolic in price to infinity and beyond?

>> No.21736500
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Should I hold these fuckers though the split?

>> No.21736559

>>21736435
The economy is unpredictable right now, if you buy you could get slammed next month or next week. But If you are holding long term you can just ride out all the ups and downs.

>> No.21736563

>>21736425
Not a boomer I was new to stocks and was literally just picking random companies that I knew existed

>> No.21736588

>>21736459
What’s the fucking catch? You faggots constantly drop these options strategies like they’re risk free without talking about the worst that could theoretically happen.

>> No.21736603

>>21736345
AAPL could fizzle out. It's a 2T company now. Everything being remote now means every kid requires a laptop, and normies buy MacBooks even if they have to max out their credit cards for some reason.

TSLA still has S&P 500 inclusion, Battery Day, possibly another Green New Deal to go. If TSLA becomes a trillion-dollar company for no other reason than it's a nice round number and trillion is the new billion then that would put it at $5.3k+ now.

>> No.21736611

>>21736480
>Apple 630c 9/4

I might try this, anon. Should I sell the call before or after the split?

>> No.21736661

>>21736141
That's why I'm interesting my rh account. I'll have 100 of appl soon

>> No.21736680

>>21736588

If you get called on your sold options the game ends, but its not a huge deal.

If the stocks price dies, you lose your ass. Thats why you do it on amazon and not GNUS

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>>21736588
The catch is that if Amazon goes down in price for the next 4 months, the Amazon 1/15/21 $3700 call that you bought will keep dropping in price and you won't be able to sell weekly calls for $3885 or higher at a decent price anymore. This is why you run this strategy with a long term outlook on growth stocks, and not something risky at the moment like AMC or Gamestop.

>> No.21736729

>>21736588
The catch is you need a margin account with high level options enabled. You can only sell options above the call strike you bought, and if the price goes below your call strike you are fucked.

>> No.21736748

>>21736680
>>21736705
Well that’s very fair, sorry I came at y’all so hard I’m stressed :(

>> No.21736760

repill me on dividend ETFs

>> No.21736763

>>21736459
robinhood wont let me do spreads

>> No.21736777

I wonder what the implications would be having a company worth more than the GDP of the United States of America (about $20 trillion). Could Apple buy America? Will trillionaire Tim Apple buy the United States Military?

>> No.21736779

>>21736729
You can run the poor man's covered call on even something like Robinhood without margins enabled. You do need high level options enabled, yes. And yeah, that's why you need to buy the long term strike near or at the ATM (at the money) price, and not something dumb like $4500 for Amazon.

>> No.21736811

>>21736763
Why won't they let you do spreads? It's easy to turn on options trading (level 2 or higher) on Robinhood. Do you have a small account? Is it on margin? For Robinhood users, I really recommend just disabling margin altogether.

>> No.21736824

>>21736319
At least you didn't lose that 3k and spent months trying to get it back

>> No.21736842
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Good news, the monetary base is shrinking.

>> No.21736867

>>21736301
You’ll be fine if you don’t freak out and panic sell. Hold it for years

>>21733682
It’s best not to tell people about money unless they already have a lot.
All people will do is hit you up to borrow money and expect you to pay for everything.

>>21734036
Fuck boomer rocks

>>21736074
Assuming it’s a bull market and not a long crab or bear market then yes you’re fine.

>> No.21736885

>>21736842
once biden wins and the free money starts flowing we'll be right back on schedule

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>>21736842
And the economy is recovering.

>> No.21736904

>>21736779
You want to buy an ITM call to really be safe. Buying OTM calls means you have to sell even farther OTM calls. If the stock goes down even a little, you get BTFO. With normal covered calls, you dont even care about the price of the underlying stock because you can sell at any strike you want.

>> No.21736938

>>21736811
Spreads are level 3, idk why it doesn't let me... I guess because I haven't dabbled too much in options? My account is 25k and I do have the 1k interest free margin but I rarely use it.

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>>21736332
Found the tourist

>> No.21737011

Bros I am SO fucking lonely and horny and stoned

>> No.21737015

>>21736887
Monday is going to be a god damn bull run

>> No.21737045

>>21736777
can't cash out.
if it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't. by the time tim apple tried to liquidate his $1 Trillion share price would have decimated.
GDP isn't calculated using hype. AAPL's sales are only 270 Billion, there's no way he could actually squeeze out $1 Trillion of his holdings.

>> No.21737071

>>21737015
Sugar tap being closed is not actually good news for markets.

>> No.21737083

>>21737011
the last time I got stoned was 2011 and I just watched funny videos until I passed out

>> No.21737127
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shut the fuck up rkg you dumb whore

>> No.21737168

>>21737083

I just jerked off unti a coffee mug

>> No.21737218

>>21737071
Its been good for a while, the fed seemed to have pumped all it needed, and can still go further.

>> No.21737283
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still no word on Palantir IPO? I am tired of playing this game with options and shit, just gonna dump a lot of $ into this and forget about it for a year.

>> No.21737350

>>21736760
They typically underperform SPY.

>> No.21737361

>>21736603
The thing is though, AAPL just passed two trillion and goddamn Amazon is only at 1.6T. These are titans built on results where Tesla is WILD speculation. Sure the speculation is impressive but it’s just that: speculation. It’s hard for me to believe Tesla will just become the de facto autonomous fleet/EV/battery saviors of the world without any major competition popping up or unexpected headwinds.

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IS THIS BULLISH??
THIS MIGHT BE THE DIP I BUY THE FUCK OUT OF.

>>21737168
>>21737011
The fuck? Why not a tissue or a drain?
Or something disposable for fucks sake.

>>21736867
I used to feel that way about rocks too, but we’re facing currency devaluation risks. It’s just a smol hedge really.

>> No.21737413
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Bullish?
Usually tv news is a bad indicator...

>>21737283
My boll on the pedestal.

>> No.21737439

>>21737413
Extremely bearish for tech. That is neon flashing sell signal.

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>>21735966
>tfw I bought a few dozen shares of Tesla when it was around $200

Is this what making it feels like bros?

>> No.21737594

>>21737538
>Is this what making it feels like bros?
No, making it would have been buying a few dozen tesla calls when it was $200

>> No.21737627

>>21736904
You're right. I used AMZN as an example with a semi affordable strike price since megacap LEAPs are so expensive. But yes, you want to be pretty ITM to write those weeklies comfortably.

>> No.21737654

>>21736938
I think Robinhood might now require you to dabble in a few option trades before allowing things like spreads. Maybe sell some cash covered puts or something on a cheap stock like F or something like TQQQ for more premium? I know a few anons here run the wheel on TQQQ successfully.

>>21737413
Why do these media outlets have to make everything sound so fucking stupid.. "Sell everything else" - really?

>> No.21737670

nigga look at the 10 year yield ffs bagggie nigga tripfagging out his ass just som sorta kicks in an anonymous clique, you lacking dawg

>> No.21737709

>>21735966
Anyone have the original wojak where he's at the table with a gun.

>> No.21737801

How would you guys handle a windfall of cash for investing?
Let’s say you had 200k
My strategy would be
Initial deposit of 30-40%
DCA 3-4000/wk and buy any dips along the way

40% TQQQ
35% FNGU
5% TSLA
5% AAPL
5% NVDA
5% AMZN
5% MSFT

Or just 50/50 TQQQ / FNGU

Uhhh asking for a friend

>> No.21737806

>>21736611
idk you're gambling for gains. if it goes up and you think it will still rise, hold. if it goes up and you think it peaked, nobody ever went broke taking a profit. i plan on selling my 9/4s EOD 9/1. my 9/11s on 9/7 and my 9/18s we'll see

>> No.21737813

Top 3 comfy stocks
>1 MSFT
>2 UPS
>3 DIS

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>>21737709

>> No.21737831

>>21737806
That's fair. Good luck, anon.

>> No.21737833

>>21736500
sell when youre up dumbass

iron hands are a meme

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>>21737801
100% BABA

>> No.21737898

dumbass penny shit bags ate into my TQQQ and FNGU gains today. maybe I should dump some for more TQQQ

>> No.21737901

>>21737801
I think your first idea isn't bad. I'm unironically scared of TQQQ (but anon look at the previous gains!!!!), but it's your money. Some would argue DCA'ing is a meme but considering the crazy bullish state we're in, I think what you suggest makes sense.

if you're able to I'd also try to fuck around with some options, since you have so much money.

>> No.21737917

Someone post Danny Fs apple trade

>> No.21737946

>>21737801
Unironically buy 50% FNGU, 30% on AMZN 2022 LEAPs, 10% V, 10% NOW.

AMZN is due for a split. I can sense it.

>> No.21737955

>>21737917
ONE LAST PUMP

>> No.21737987

>>21737955
He died so we could live

>> No.21738010

>>21737801
Pick a few stocks (2-3) to buy at least 100 of (or a multiple of 100) and sell covered calls. Then put the rest in SPY/QQQ.

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> 10pm on a Friday night
Why are you here?

Anyone here dable in the clean/renewable energy sector? I want to talk about RUN and BEP.

>> No.21738031

Buy DPST on Monday.

>> No.21738038

Check this out.

It's Apple's stock market now.

The S&P 500 index hit a record high last week, but it's probably fairer to say that Apple (ticker: AAPL) stock hit an all-time high and the index simply followed.

Yes, the S&P 500 closed the week up 0.7% at 3397.16, a new closing high. Apple, however, was responsible for about 60% of the S&P 500's gain after climbing 8.2% to $497.48 this week.

Apple's influence on the Dow Jones Industrial Average was even starker. The blue-chip benchmark was unchanged on the week, at 27,930.

Without Apple, which contributed 259.61 points, the Dow would have fallen 260.30 points, or 0.9%. The Nasdaq Composite, meanwhile, rose 2.65% to 11,311.80.

>> No.21738095

>>21738038
The rally has been from tech since late april. This is not news. It just rotates which set of tech it is.

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>tfw my 8.59 GNUS bags make me red every day
for the anon wondering however many threads ago, i have 1615 shares.
>bought at 6.5
>sold at 7.5
>fomod at 8.5
>held through $11
>held through 8
>sold at 4.34
>climbs back to 8ish, buy back
>dumps again to 7-6, "buy the dip"
>DCA at 6
>DCA at 5
>DCA at 4
>run out of money
>look at what I've done
>transfer every penny in my checkings and put it into SPY and close laptop

I have learned so much from then, but I am still -$11,000. I'm sure you fuckers have heard this before
oh well. $11,000 lesson

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Lmao this thread compared to the one five hours ago.
>nobody ever went broke taking a profit anon
>don't hold trhough the split
>one more pump, and then Im outta here
>FAANG is a meme
>iron hands is a meme
>anons just noticed news outlets were reporting on TSLA gains

I told you fuckers you'd all be the first against the wall when the end began. Now all of you novices who struck it rich following /biz/ advice have this experience engrained in your little monkey brains. You won't be able to control yourselves and will end up following the trend again, only to be struck out of your survivorship bias when a real trade comes. The only anons who are going to keep their moneys are the few seasoned traders who come here for entertainment. Enjoy losing your life savings zoomers.

>> No.21738153

>>21738016
My gf is being a bitch and I don't wanna play vidya

>> No.21738159

>>21737901
I thought about buying 100x shares of AAPL just to have the play if I wanted to venture there.
I like DCA’ing because there’s nothing worse than going balls deep then getting BTFO the next day
I could just increase the DCA amount or start at like 10k then go down 1k each week so it’s front loaded

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>met an artist internet friend on a thread weeks ago
>now we're barely talking because he's busy and depressed
>can't ask because I don't want to be a faggot and pester him

not sure how I feel. its nice having an internet bro but he barely talk now

>> No.21738164

>>21737917
How much was it worth?

>> No.21738183

>>21737801
If it's money you don't need, I'd put it roughly 50% FNGU 50% SOXL and never look at it. The logic is that FNGU is the main driver of TQQQ anyway, so having both is pointless, and if you have either TQQQ or FNGU, getting the individual stocks that compose them is also pointless. But while FNGU and SOXL are inherently tied to the hip, a stark drop of SOXL ought to impact FNGU though not as much as SOXL since they have more business that doesn't rely on pure expansion. SOXL, on the other hand, would be impacted by a FNGU fall only if that implied FNGU would have to stop growing for a while and decided to cut down on chip purchases (extremely unlikely even in a FNGU downturn).
Thus they're reasonably uncorrelated in terms of sectorial failure. They are, however, widely similar when it comes to growth (FNGU does better than SOXL, which does better than TQQQ) because investors don't really see the difference. Both would fall drastically only in a generalized market crash, in which case FNGU is liable to recover quickest, followed by SOXL. With good re-balancing, that's a good way to retain significant gains and even potentially get ahead despite being almost entire passive.
Finally, since this is money we don't need, we're fine with the mandatory 60% drawdown that happens during total market downturns, and 30% drawdown during minor market downturns and sectorial downturns. This allows us to capture the roughly 100% CAGR gains without much psychological hit and with little effort.

>> No.21738191

>>21738016
Im at work

>>21737946
Yeah I think I need to increase my amazon position as well.

>> No.21738243

>>21737801

40% VUG
40% QQQ
5% BABA
5% TCEHY

Use margin to set your leverage ratio to whatever you want it to be

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21738254

Rest in Peace bobo, we hardly knew ye.

>> No.21738269

>>21737801
Step 1. Sell covered calls on AAPL until you can afford 100 shares of AMZN.
Step 2. Sell covered calls on AMZN.

>> No.21738290

>>21738243
You can only get 2x margin on most stocks, 3x is reserved for special "safe" stocks. Eitherway you end up paying a massive fine, far higher than 3x leveraged ETFs. Deep ITM calls would be a far better way to go to select smaller leverage ratios, but realistically for a long-term investment, 3x or 4x are the best way to go. 2.5x is only optimal on an infinite timeframe.

>> No.21738293

>>21738183
>FNGU is the main driver of TQQQ

I feel like you’re right. The only difference is if one of those companies as a whole takes a hit (like TSKA) it fucks FNGU more. But I do agree
I’m just not sold on SOXL

>> No.21738371

>>21738038
Because if people hadn't bought AAPL they wouldn't have bought anything at all right

>> No.21738398

>>21738254
Bobo March 2020 - august 2020

>> No.21738404

>>21738293
The other reason to have SOXL as the second instead of TQQQ is so that you get this semi-hedge against TSLA taking a plunge.
Not sure what's scaring you about SOXL though, while I don't like intel being in there anymore, TSM and NVDA alone are on the same tier as AMZN and MSFT. AMD + INTC at the same time is also always solid (though iterating between both based on current market edge is better, the combination always goes up fast).

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SHORTS GET THE TORCH

>> No.21738415

>>21738038
So load to the tits with SPY puts when the AAPL stock split meme fizzles out, got it.

>> No.21738433

>>21738371
They could have bought a collection of things, TSLA, AAPL, AMZN, MSFT, ...
But anyway I don't see how your point is related to his redditarded post in any way.

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>>21736459
oh my
I think I like this artist

>> No.21738502

>>21738433
The post is saying that if AAPL hadn't gone up, the index would have dropped

But if people hadn't bought AAPL they would've bought something else so the index would be right where it is anyway

>> No.21738527

>>21738148
You're an idiot but at least you hopefully learned a lesson. Buy in ONCE. Hold that first for longer than you think you need to then when you sell you don't buy back unless your swinging. If you're out then you left for a reason.

Usually the cycle of emotions in the market follows this pattern:
>Hope
>Greed
>Fear
>Regret

The only thing worse than following this cycle at will is if your cycle goes Hope, Fear, Greed, Regret. Never FOMO. Set Stop losses. Don't bet more than 20% on a deal.


Last note, I also considered this stock. I also did DD and decided the EPS wasn't good enough. Fundamentals being meaningless is a meme.

>> No.21738532

What's the specific term for when a leveraged etf crabs and you lose money?

>> No.21738545

>>21738502
No, it does not say that. It says that 60% of the gains are due to aapl alone, which shows a major bias in that one stock among all s&p500 movements.

>> No.21738554

>>21738532
leveraged etf decay

>> No.21738557

>>21738408
He burned shorts and now he'll burn longs. I guarantee Elon will have almost no stake in TSLA within 5 years. TSLA fulfilled its purpose to generate memes and fill his pockets from dumb ass zoomies. That money now goes to his baby SpaceX. Which public investors will NEVER EVER be allowed to touch.

>> No.21738571

>>21738532
Delusions.

>> No.21738592

>>21738532
Beta slippage

>> No.21738606
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21738606

>>21738148
what the fuck

>> No.21738608

>>21738545
See
>>21738038
>Apple's influence on the Dow Jones Industrial Average was even starker. The blue-chip benchmark was unchanged on the week, at 27,930.
>Without Apple, which contributed 259.61 points, the Dow would have fallen 260.30 points, or 0.9%. The Nasdaq Composite, meanwhile, rose 2.65% to 11,311.80.

>> No.21738612

>>21738554
>>21738571
>>21738592
I swear there was a specific technical term for this that wasn't decay or beta slippage, I just can't remember it

>> No.21738628

>>21738148
Shit bro I'm sorry thats brutal. That's more than i entered with this year

>> No.21738630

>>21738532
>>21738612
Decay.
Maybe you are thinking of premium discount?

>> No.21738635

>>21738612
Beside the fact the correct term is delusion, it's leveraged etf decay for real.
>>21738608
Nobody's fault but your own that you're too dumb for this shit m80.

>> No.21738694

>>21738635
>It doesn't say that
Then I quoted the post saying exactly what I said it was saying
>ur retarded dood
have a good night

>> No.21738717

>>21738612
beta slippage and decay are both the technical terms, but youre thinking path dependent convexity drag

>> No.21738718

>>21738148
>DCA at 6
>DCA at 5
>DCA at 4
dude that's not DCAing. You're basically catching a falling knife with that retarded averaging down. DCA is purposely buying in chunks from the beginning so you don't get fucked by bad timing as much. And this is assuming your pick has good fundamentals. Speculative gambles are a different thing entirely, you decide from the beginning how much you can risk and stick to it. Unrealized profits are unrealized, do not let unrealized profits bait you into putting more money into a gamble.

On safer long-term bets, if you're averaging down instead of averaging up on a dip, you're doing something very wrong.

>> No.21738727

>>21738612
Getting bogged

>> No.21738739

>>21738532
Everyone other anon has been wrong. It’s “volatility drag”. It applies to EVERY asset but it’s amplified on leveraged ETFs.

>> No.21738829

>>21738557
Do you just repeat the same shit every single day without doing even a cursory amount of research? SpaceX is profitable by itself, Starlink will make it a thousand times more profitable as well as provide ample funding, and Mars doesn't need 100 billion out of Musk's own pocket. You probably didn't even know SpaceX existed until this year.

If you think Musk is going to leave his other eight stock payment tranches on the table so he can have money he has nothing to spend it on, you're as retarded as you are autistic.

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21738842

>>21738254

Thoughts and prayers for all the bears.

>> No.21738844

What do you guys think about TSLA after the split, if it ends up splitting for 450-500 a share I was thinking that tons of people are going to rush to buy it cause it's semi-affordable now so long calls, for maybe like 1 standard deviation?

>> No.21738849

>>21738718
DCA is really because most people are limited in capital i.e. it is part of a paycheck. And setting a point in time and amount for when you put that capital in prevents you from micromanaging yourself into a loss as well as reducing stress. For indexes or even companies with just solid fundamentals you intend hold for a LONG time. The closest that is is average up.
Average down is literally THE "strategy" that turns dumb losers into financially ruining ones. And the GNUS stocktwits page (and other penny garbage pages) is absolutely a cult of the average down.

>> No.21738878

>>21738148
I kinda feel better for having lost only 1950

>> No.21738890

>>21738844
Who is left to buy it? Isn't the endgame here to dump the shares on SP500 indexes?
>>21738829
It is afterhours. Elon memery is for the peanut gallery of the day.

>> No.21738899

>>21738727
>>21738717
>>21738635
>>21738630
I'm a brainlet, I was thinking about contango and gave the wrong description

>> No.21738910

>>21738849
Stocktwits cult on gnus is funny
They are forcing their kids to watch gnus cartoons in the hopes the stock will go up
See muh kid loves gnus and this not your average ceo so funny

>> No.21738916

>>21738844
Milestones:
420.69
694.20
4204.20
6969.69

>> No.21739011

>>21738164
200k shares i think

>> No.21739029

Poor man covered call guy. How big is your account? How big does your account have to be before your broker let's you trade spreads?

>> No.21739079

>>21739029
Dont start out with poor mans covered calls. Just do normal covered calls for a while first.

>> No.21739080

>>21738844
Most people can buy FRACTIONAL SHARES. A stock split doesn’t mean shit. It’s going to DUMP at the split. Buy the rumor sell the news. Tesla and apple are going to teach some harsh lessons.

>> No.21739081

>>21738849
well yeah, people with limited capital have no choice but to DCA.
I was thinking more of the argument of lump sump vs DCA when you have the option of either.

e.g. if I have $6000 cash. (around ~50% of my shitty portfolio), I'd prefer to buy in chunks of $2000 just so i'm less fucked if i missed the bottom. Sure I essentially still "lose" money because i could potentially miss out on some gains for not doing lump sump, but it's a lot easier for my poor heart if I'm averaging up in the end.

>> No.21739099

>>21739029
I don't think there's an account size requirement for spreads. I heard Robinhood requires people to make some preliminary trades to show that they can handle options though. I think it's because of that one kid who committed suicide after being assigned one of the legs of a SPY spread, and overreacting because he thought he was in the hole for -$700k when in reality his other leg didn't get exercised by Robinhood yet. My account is $85k.

>> No.21739110

>>21738849
Investing every paycheck isn’t DCA. DCA is when you have a lump sum and choose to spread it out.

>> No.21739113

>>21738910
>They are forcing their kids to watch gnus cartoons in the hopes the stock will go up
I see nothing wrong about this. It would be normal behavior if the underlying shares weren't a shitfest of dilution. My issue is with the endless posting about "GOOD ENTRY POINT FOR THE POP. :rocket_emoji:" garbage. Andy Heyward is a piece of shit and he was a piece of shit well before this. And the cult of the average down just makes it even worse.

>> No.21739171

https://breakingdefense.com/2020/08/ai-slays-top-f-16-pilot-in-darpa-dogfight-simulation/

Buy Kratos before Lockheed does

>> No.21739175

>>21739110
DCA is literally just buying something over time instead of at once. Investing each paycheck is LITERALLY DCA.

>> No.21739182

>>21739113
I'm so glad I didn't get serious until after gnus. I truly was in the sweet part of the market decimation where I was just holding boeing and KOS dumb dumb shit. Made a fast 10% then got serious

>> No.21739184

>>21738433
I'm just saying Apple carried hardcore this week. I hope some of the other FAGMANs carry hardcore in the upcoming weeks.

>> No.21739209

>>21739175
How can you buy something at once if you’re waiting for the next paycheck? For it to be DCA you need to have an alternative. Investing every paycheck, there is no option to do it all at once, so all you’re doing is... investing. DCA is a deliberate choice versus the alternative. Jesus fucking Christ you people are such helpless clowns.

>> No.21739242

>>21736097
Go back

>>21736255
Nice

>> No.21739258

>Dollar cost averaging
Real Chads market order $50 million to generate hype on their new assets and become the trend setters.

>> No.21739287

>>21739209
dude lol, maybe read into what DCA even means before you start spouting shit like you know it all. The paycheck thing is a valid way to "DCA".

you can argue it's just shitty definitions but the principle is the same. You're taking some money from your paycheck to invest instead of setting it aside as a lump sump to all in into a stock as a specific time.

>> No.21739310

Do you guys think TSLA will keep going up next week? I thought the top was 1800 until it hit 1900, then 2000 and now I don't even know anymore. I think a large part of it is the short squeeze as short volume ratio for the 21st was 21.25. Part of me feels like it will keep going up cause of FOMO but the rational part tells me it's stupid to buy calls when it's at the top.

>> No.21739333
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>>21739209
It doesn't matter when or where you get the money retard. DCA describes the act of investing incrementally until you reach the amount you want to invest. It does not matter if you have the money now or later, only how much you plan to invest.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dollarcostaveraging.asp

Fucking stupid /smg/ retards can't even fucking read.

>> No.21739386

>>21739209
And you want an argument literally about semantics. Lump sum investing has been found again (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-financial-and-quantitative-analysis/article/note-on-the-suboptimality-of-dollarcost-averaging-as-an-investment-policy/0C483B96429655B24F34FB628CF9CEEB)), and again (https://www.kitces.com/blog/dollar-cost-averaging-versus-lump-sum-how-dca-investing-can-manage-risk-but-on-average-reduces-returns/)), and again (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/1057081092900155)) to be inferior to the technical definition of constant dollar (DCA) investing.
No one who has the capital should be doing it. Having to do that because you can only do it with every X number of paychecks is a need born of necessity and practicality.

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>>21736160
Do it but instead buy 33/33/33 FNGU SOXL TQQQ deal in the money leaps. You'll get 50 more earnings power for your money. Then sell covered calls to make money to buy more leaps with

>> No.21739406

>>21739386
>to be inferior to the technical definition of constant dollar (DCA) investing.
superior*

>> No.21739441

>>21739386
What? Wrong. DCAing is statistically inferior to lump sum. Stocks go up more than down so spreading out over time is more likely to hurt than help. It’s been proven many times. You didn’t even read the articles you linked did you? Why do I waste my time trying to educate you children

>> No.21739461

>>21739441
>>21739406
Ok ok your post makes sense now

>> No.21739476

>>21736459
Based options bro. I do exactly this except with SOXL. Poor man's covered calls are unsung hero's of wealth building. When /smg/ collectively combines the power of leveraged ETFs, LEAPs, and covered calls it herald a singularity event in the financial universe. Till then we shill

>> No.21739480

>>21739401
>options on leveraged ETFs
????? what's the fucking point? you pay a higher premium and ther'es probably less liquidity too because everyone else just does options on the actual ETF itself.

>> No.21739501

>>21737654
>Why do these media outlets have to make everything sound so fucking stupid..
biz media is trash and I suspect it always has been from the start. its only bright shining moments are occasional hindsight documentaries years after the fact.

>> No.21739539

TQQQ isn't scary if you.just put stop losses at a price below support but above your entry. Don't use trailing losses because it can fuck your ass in a random dip. But if you average in and set your stop losses incrementally as the price goes up then. I was afraid of TQQQ now I just go all in. Fuck it. If it crashes, my stop losses should catch my profits as it snakes down, and then I'll just re-enter when it climbs back up.

>> No.21739565
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21739565

i keep hearing people say that the market is going to rotate out of tech when there's a vaccine... this is a boomer take right? tech stocks never actually go down

>> No.21739591

>>21738890
Right now the corporate TSLA hit squad is coming to wipe you off the face of the earth for making the same god damn stupid comment over and over again in these threads. Ur dead, kiddo.

>> No.21739622
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21739622

>twitch streamers are becoming V-Tubers
fuckin WILD world we're living in...

I'm going to have to buy the hell out of the dip coming in semis...

and also maybe LULU?

>> No.21739628

Stop losses are a meme. You get bogged by stop loss raids. Just babysit your positions all day.

>> No.21739649

>>21739539
easier said than done. You're explaining how easy it is to ride a wave upwards, but you forget that entering a position in the first place is what matters. Obvious dips like in 2018 and this year don't happen weekly. If you're trying to enter right now, you have to be ready to know when to cut your losses in case you actually bought the top and something more than a tiny correction follows.

how far do you put your stop loss on your entry price for when you decide to cut your losses? That's the harder part.

>> No.21739670

>>21736331
The option can become almost worthless if Tesla dumps a few percent.

>> No.21739675

>>21739565
>this is a boomer take right?
It has some merit. There are some sectors that have not fully recovered from covid crash despite still putting in decent earnings every quarter. Defense is probably the safest of those. Greatest return potential remains travel/tourism/hospitality, with greater risk as some individual companies in these sectors might not survive to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

>> No.21739698

>>21739565
Yeah let me just sell my Amazon and Apple shares to go buy Ford and General Electric instead.

>> No.21739700

>>21739622
What's a vtuber?

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>>21735966
You thought BLNK puts right anon you seriously didnt miss out on free money right?

>> No.21739756

>>21739565
Tech should retain most of its value even with a vaccine but I suspect it will dip somewhat. Covid caused a permanent shift in the market where investors finally realized just how many non-tech companies are in the process of failing and they're without a future in the increasingly electronic world. There are a lot of stocks that will never go back to their pre-covid levels.

>> No.21739763

>>21739700
vagina tuber O_O

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>>21739628
I have come to conlusion after a bunch of testing that stop losses are useful in very specific cases but should not be used as an automatic thing on every trade. The best time I have found to use them if when you're getting close to selling time but the chart hasn't quite shown you the things you need to see to confirm it. Around there you slap on a stop loss fairly snug, either on a fraction of your position or the whole thing depending, and wait for the signal. Doing this backtests pretty good on my stuff.

>> No.21739779

>>21739700
cute AI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4CTy4i7gmc

>> No.21739832
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21739832

>Joe Biden's DNC speech got 20% less viewers than Hillary's DNC speech
>Also during Corona when a shit ton of people is stuck at home
Trump bull confirmed for the next 4 years

>> No.21739888

>>21739622
>>21739779
How much fucking autism do you need to have to watch this shit? Most people here would probably consider me fairly autistic and I even enjoy anime but I would never get into watching someone's shitty avatar react to things.

>> No.21739893

>>21739832
Trump will get 3x at least of whatever Joe got. Dems just aren't as excited about the JoePedo, and everyone else is about El Donaldo

>> No.21739905

>>21736588
Riskier and harder to managed than doing a real covered call. For the long call, you need LEAPS with low IV and high delta, which are hard to find. If you don't buy the appropriate long call, the trade is more directional and you won't make much profit.

>> No.21739912

>>21739832
Trump is for profit prisons right? If so I'm going all in on GEO

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>>21739622
I don't understand why you guys like asians so much. All of their faces are so flat and look the same. Maybe it is just me. No hate, I just don't get it

>> No.21739957

>>21739832
I didn't even realize the DNC was happening until I visited my parents' house the other day because I don't have a TV and nobody is really talking about it online.

>> No.21739991

>>21739931
Asians and latinas are unironically better than American white women. Cant say anything about european women cause idk anyone from there

>> No.21740044

>>21739931
that girl you posted has a masculine looking face and hands IMO

>>21739888
same
except for this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ8t6A-g5hc

>> No.21740053

>>21739565
Theres no reason to take it OUT of tech, so no. Of course there are always dips and crabbing.

>> No.21740151

>>21738148
Did you learn that strategy from crypto bagholders? That strategy is based on the assumption that the security you're holding will make a rapid vertical move up, blowing past every price you bought at. How often do such events happen? When you're averaging down, it's more of a coping mechanism.

>> No.21740184

>>21738183
>This allows us to capture the roughly 100% CAGR gains without much psychological hit and with little effort.
The fact these sector based leveraged ETFs have finally made this a serious possibility is astounding. It's like living back in the "Reminiscences of a Stock Operator" bucket shop days where a lucky hit doubles your money but doing it within a solid modern regulatory framework so you actually get to keep your gains. And people bitch they can't make money in the market

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I am 8 coronas deep celebrating my AAPL gains

>> No.21740302

>>21739029
You can have less than $100 in Robinhood and be approved for spreads

>> No.21740347

>>21738183
>FNGU does better than SOXL, which does better than TQQQ
On what time frame? Since inception, TQQQ has given 3x the returns of SOXL. If you mean since April, they are both basically neck and neck anyway.
The real breakaway is FNGU but that seems a bit unfair since it was started in 2018

>> No.21740440

>>21739480
I buy and sell SOXL leaps all the time and have always experienced narrow spreads and plenty of liquidity. The reason I prefer SOXL leaps over SOXX is the leverage is higher. Deep in the money leaps on SOXX are less than 3x effective leverage and are outperformed by SOXL shares. While even the deepest ITM SOXL leaps are 1.5x effective which gives you effectively 5x of SOXX.
I know a lot of people suggest buying options on the underlying for leveraged ETFs but the reality is not that simple and you likely will underperform. I'd suggest doing the math yourself

>> No.21740446

>>21738183
FNGU and SOXL are still correlated though. Their charts follow the same trends.

>> No.21740468
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21740468

has FNGU outperformed TQQQ and SOXL only because of TSLA? I see twitter and no microsoft in FNGU and say no thank you

>> No.21740524

>>21740468
TQQQ has TSLA, it's SOXL that doesn't.

>> No.21740534

>>21740468
Most likely.
TSLA outperforms both FNGU and TQQQ. It’s the main driver of everyone’s portfolio

>> No.21740535

>>21739832
i think people are just fed up with BLM and antifa. you can literally blame them for trump 2nd term

>> No.21740568

>>21740347
Since inception, up to the Coronavirus dip SOXL outperformed TQQQ. The current situation where they've switched places is special and will not last. SOXL will outperform a leveraged Nasdaq ETF in the long term. Count on it

>> No.21740649

>>21740568
You have that completely backwards. TQQQ has outperformed SOXL since they both existed. 46.50% CAGR vs 36.18%.

>> No.21740671

>>21740524
TSLA is weighted heavier in FNGU than in TQQQ

>> No.21740771

>>21740671
Yeah, that's quite a large difference. 12.17% vs 1.84%. WTF, I hate TQQQ now.

>> No.21740781

>>21740649
Fair enough. I still think SOXL will do better in the future

>> No.21740855

>>21735966
Tesla to 3k next week only because they probably want to bankrupt even more retarded shot sellers

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>>21740771
>WTF, I hate TQQQ now.
you might as well buy TSLA directly then
FNGU (and heck other shit like ARKQ) only look like they perform like crazy because of TSLA.

i'd pick TQQQ since the ship has clearly sailed for TSLA already and it reminds me too much of the weed stock mania

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21740938

>>21740568
>Since inception, up to the Coronavirus dip SOXL outperformed TQQQ
Again, what time scale? I just can't seem to find that to have ever been the case. I looked a lot into this in March. SOXL's closest cousin is actually SPXL not TQQQ

>> No.21740969

>>21740771
wrong, unless you bought FNGU ages ago youre just asking for your long term leveraged ETF to get dunked on by the eventual tesla dump

>> No.21741063

>>21739832

Nobody wAnts to hear a crusty 80 year old boomer talk go figure. Fuck that walking corpse and the left. Having said that Trump is too old too there really should be an age cap.

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>>21739957
Your parents were ironically watching the DNC, right anon? Anon....?

>> No.21741313

>>21740771
is tslas rise reflected in qqq yet? i thought it. rebalanced every year

>> No.21741526

>>21741313
It's rebalanced quarterly and reconstituted annually so it should have seen most of the TSLA rise but not the recent pump. I think the information on TQQQ holdings I got was outdated since another site says TSLA is 3.15% of TQQQ instead of 1.84%.

>> No.21742075

>>21740938
I realize I may have been mistaken. I like SOXL a lot but I concede TQQQ is very strong and has a better options story considering it has weeklies. More diversified too. If I were recommending someone starting out in leveraged ETFs I'd probably go with TQQQ. I have a lot of SOXL and bought a ton in March and April that has performed as week percentage wise as TQQQ so I'm happy. The next dip I may switchover though

>> No.21742217
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21742217

i have too many positions, but im doing alright for an amateur right?

>> No.21742270

>>21742075
>the next dip
there is no next dip son

>> No.21742346

>>21742217
>i have too many positions
no such thing.

>> No.21742359

>>21742217
Dont get lost in the sauce anon

>> No.21742473

>>21742346
surely you're hurting yourself by spreading your money out too thin among too many positions, right?

>> No.21742532

>>21739991
Based.

I've only had sex with 1 smoking hot Latino. Best time I ever had.

White woman are pretty good though.

Black is the worst. Everything stinky down there.

>> No.21742614

>>21742270
You're delusional

>> No.21742617

>>21742532
They definitely do have a different smell, what is that??

>> No.21742638

Why bother with Tesla?

It's gone up 5 to 6x. The time to make money off Tesla was Pre-Virus. If you're investing now, you mine as well buy AT&T because most news has already been priced in.

Go with something like PSHZF or Disney. 3x potential easy on both.

>> No.21742661

>>21742617
It's called "I don't need to take care of myself, you supposed to appreciate me for what I is" smell

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21742722

redpill me on JNUG please

>> No.21742740

>>21742473
No, because assuming you do your DD the ones you have absolute confidence in you'll put in more into it. right? or are you just splitting your money evenly throughout your positions?

>> No.21742759

>>21739698
>audible kek

>> No.21742799

>>21742617
It's not just hygiene or diet, your genetics change the way you smell. It's not just the type of sweat glands you have but your bacterial flora as well.
>>21742217
This doesn't tell us much, track your performance by comparing it to the indices.
>>21742473
You couldn't possibly know that many companies that well and you're diluting the performance of the good companies with the bad ones. It gets to a point where you would be better off just buying an index and forgetting about individual stocks than basically making your own index.

>> No.21742814

>>21741063
Trump is the only president to not visibly age in office. Frankly, he looks 5 years younger.

>> No.21742820

>>21742799
>track your performance by comparing it to the indices.
how i do dat

>> No.21742854

>>21739888
Checked

Ai has cute overreactions and shit, I can see why it’s getting to be such a popular thing.
With the added advantage that the virtual tubers can do impossible things, like be a woman and not be a whore.

>> No.21742895

>>21742799
Black girls tastes ashy with a side of sardines.

>> No.21742909

>>21742270
There is always another dip. Its just a matter of when.

>> No.21742914

>>21742820
Excel. Download the data from Yahoo Finance.
Adjust to assume a constant principal, weight each position by the amount with respect to the total and compute the percentage change during each day with respect to the previous.
Then just chart it.

>> No.21742941
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>>21742638
>The time to make money off Tesla was Pre-Virus.
yeah but i bought a couple of months ago and i'm up like 40%

>> No.21742954

>>21742217
Your image means literally nothing. What matters are the percentages. Not even showing tickers, insecure much?

>> No.21742958

>>21742820
Pick something like QQQ or SPY, figure out your portfolio percentage gain for whatever period and then compare the two.
>>21742854
I'm still creeped out and distrusting of them even though they're cute. I think the problem is that men are better at being women than women themselves and that most of the top virtual youtuber accounts will be run by men. It's like if trannies didn't have to mutilate themselves.

>> No.21742974

>>21742617
The nappy hair holds in the smell

>> No.21743052

>>21742958
You’re thinking about trannies an unhealthy amount, even for someone on /biz/. I don’t want to see what other boards you visit.

They’re voiced by women, and the voice is what gives the character and life or personality. Sure they’re managed by men, but many famous women are. It’s like saying Britney Spears was a tranny because some male label execs dictated her actions and wrote her songs.

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>>21742954
>insecure much?
Yes

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Just saw some retard zoomers snap story where he shits on one of his followers that said “coins wont be taken out of circulation” with a tirade about tesla becoming more valuable than any other car company and amazon taking over retail, and saying this proves tech is the future. And wrapping it up with some shit about AI and social media
i thought you guys were memeing when you say sell signal but......big sell signal

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>>21739184
>Jeff Bezos announces Amazon share split on Sunday night

>> No.21743221

Thinking about getting back into gold/silver next week. I'm getting a little scared of tech (though AAPL was some of the freest gains I've had).

>> No.21743247

Here is a good goal for your portfolio, don't just beat SPY, beat the entirety of SPY which is 26 years of 9.61% CAGR. It's the equivalent to a 1047% gain. Do this and you earned the right to call yourself a good trader.
>>21743052
I understand that most of the main ones appear to be voiced by women but I also understand the direction it's going and I've already read many references to the idea you can be whoever you want to be with your avatar which will undoubtedly attract hoards of mentally ill trannies. Voice modification will soon be so good that you won't be able to tell if it's a real woman on the other end.

This creates a greater societal problem. Most people want to live in ignorance and in the future they're not going to have any problem e-fucking other men in VR as long as they don't know a man is on the other end. This raises the question, do you still have e-sex even though you could be fucking another man or throw caution to the wind with the rest of the degenerates? These are the hard problems we're going to have to face.

>> No.21743322

>>21742814
The man thrives on activity. He's the kind of guy who will not have extended slow senior citizen phase. It'll be 100% until he's done. Friend of my grandad's was like that. Man lived to 93. Did not retire. Could not ever stop moving doing things. Then one day he died suddenly (natural causes). No slowing, no hospital phase or any of that. 100% straight to the finish.

>> No.21743348

>>21743221
>Thinking about getting back into gold/silver next week
Look at devoting a portion to palladium. It's gearing up for another move.

>> No.21743413
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>>21743089
>AAL
shit
>ARKG
ok
>ARKK
you want ARKW
>DFEN
Too Boeing heavy, try XAR
>1 F
Memes
>FANG
shit
>GLOP
shit
>HWN
shit
>MIC
shit
>OKE
shit
>SKYW
shit
>SSL
shit
>STOR
shit
>TQQQ
ok
>WATT
shit
>WES
shit

New portfolio:
ARKG (Healthcare)
XAR (Defense)
TQQQ or ARKW (Tech)

>> No.21743416

>>21743247
You're getting too far into the Chinese room problem at that point. Say a guy wrote a script and it was spoken by a female voice. Now lets say it's a guy who wrote a script projected by an AI female voice. Now lets say instead of writing, he used Speech to Text transcription that's read later by a woman or fed into an AI with a female voice. At what point do you realize that a lot of your material is generated by other men anyways (by directing, drawing, etc) do you care.

The only problem I see is that people that might actually get attached to something like that beyond the fantasy in which case then yes there's a problem. Otherwise I imagine at some point fulfilling the fantasy is all that matters. I avoid relationships like the plague so this is a non-issue for me though.

>>21743348
Gonna look into that and maybe get a small portion. Looking at the graph though I hope it's not shitcoin tier volatility.

>> No.21743469

>>21743416
>Looking at the graph though I hope it's not shitcoin tier volatility.
Palladium is volatile. You can expect it to be twitchy. Fair warning. Normally much more so than gold and even silver but those two hit the gas this year so 'normal' volatility is out the window at this point.

>> No.21743530

>>21743416
If I even suspect a man operated the camera or directed a porn I'm watching I go limp. Has to be vaginas all the way down or nothing

>> No.21743546

>>21743469
Honestly not that confident in it now that I remember that it's #1 use is catalytic convertors and right now EV's are all the craze. Though maybe with solar rising it can fill that gap and push up.

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>>21739931
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2004/02/autism-impairs-face-recognition

>> No.21743678

>>21742217
This is what we have ETFs for.

>> No.21743700

>>21743413
>>21743678
yeah, i really want to sell most of my positions and just invest everything into TQQQ

>> No.21743752

>>21743700
All in on TQQQ could go very wrong. TQQQ looks good in hindsight, but it actually loses if the market is flat or goes down because of triple leverage. If you want to "all in" just go with normal QQQ. Id say 2-3 ETFs is good balance though.

>> No.21743786

>>21743752
if i see it stop growing for a week or two i sell it and go into QQQ and SPY

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>>21743416
It'll be interesting to see if gold retraces back down to 1800, I think it could and that'd be a big buy from me. The rise from 1820 to 1930 was very fast and on very thin volume, we could potentially head from 1950 straight back there
>>21743469
Huh interesting, you have any thoughts on platinum?

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What does /smg/ think about Walmart?

>>21743643
Why is this bote such a cockhungry sloot?

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>>21743752
>hindsight
Here's the Nasdaq composite (which TQQQ is based off of) for the last 46 years. Imagine 3x leveraged daily rebalanced version of that. You'd be a billionaire had it been possible. Will it do that for the next 46? Who knows but there are worse bets

>> No.21743923

>>21743089
there is literally no reason to be that diversified, especiallyfor such a small account. You're wasting time monitoring all those positions for what? a $45 change? I would either shave down to 5 stocks or all in tqqq.

>> No.21743927

>>21743906
based TQQQchad

>> No.21743957

>>21743845
cunny

>> No.21743972

>>21743923
that's exactly what im doing, or rather what i want to do. i find it really hard to sell stocks, even when im positive with them and will net a profit.

i have another two thousand ready to invest into TQQQ but it's gone up a lot this week and im wondering if i should wait for it to drop down again.

>> No.21744057

>>21743906
this is how i feel too, do people really think the tech industry won't keep booming?

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>>21743972
i just bought some more today. if it drops I'll buy even more at a discount. if you'd panic sell at a 75% drawdown it's not for you. if you'd salivate at the opportunity to buy in lower, this if for you and you'll make it.
pic related it my current position. hoping to hit 100 shares soon

>> No.21744133

>>21743845
Walmart is easy boomer reliable gains, but won't match the potential pace of tech.

>>21744057
Tech will reach new ATH's by end of next year but people looking for a short term play should be cautious. Some tech is inflated because of retail buying so it'd be scary if people have to start liquidating.

>> No.21744159

>>21743643
When i was tested for tism many years ago there was a face recognition component. They show picture of grid with portraits arranged on it. I was supposed to look at the picture for some seconds, then arrange the portraits in same position on a blank grid. This was repeated three or four times sporadically during the three hour test (that day), same pictures every time. I don't remember if i did well on that part. It didn't feel difficult at the time.

Much more challenging thing was a test of determining emotive content of audio speaking. That test i listened to clip of person talking. They i was to select from a series of pictures the picture that best fit with the emotional tone of the audio. This sounds more complicated as i describe it than it was. The pictures were loke smiley person, frowny person, crying person, neutral person.

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>>21743413
Feels nice when you can tell someone downloaded the pic you reposted. I didnt make the original pic but i did crop it down in size to the proportions in the one you posted. Very confident you reposted the cropped version i uploaded.


Just felt like sharing.

>> No.21744226

>>21744208
Nice.

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>>21744208

>> No.21744333

>>21738038
>epic games and apple email conversation released
holy shit I seriously hope pig sweeney is going to get fucked, cant stand that guy, apple is going to moon

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>>21743906
Yeah because that totally sums up all angles and risks right?

>> No.21744437

>>21738038
Yeah my brother and I noticed this. SPY seemed to be following Apple today even though the majority of stocks on my watchlist, including big tech companies, were flat or down for the most part with a few up noticeably granted I doubt all of them are in SPY.

>> No.21744439

is OIL done, bros?

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>>21744333
As a /g/entooman I despise apple and iToddlers. That said Tim Sweeney can suck my dick for removing previously existing Linux support for games once they get on the Epic store. Fuck that dude
>>21744409
Shut the fuck up leverage-let and stay poor. Pic related

>> No.21744480

>>21744463
>past performance will dictate the future!!!!
lmao enjoy watching your money literally disappear into thin air dipshit

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>>21744480
neck yourself

>> No.21744517

>>21744437
Breadth being absolutely horrible is pretty spooky, the nasdaq was up .4% today while only 29% of stocks on the index were green. Could be selling from people scared the s&p is going to double top (I don't think it will)

>> No.21744520

>>21744409
do you even understand what your own picture is showing?

>> No.21744527

>>21744463
>rotating into treasury bills
>during 0 percent rates
Bruh.

>> No.21744544

>>21744498
keep holding bro all the most successful investors buy and hold 3x ETFs lmao
>>21744520
Yes, leveraged ETF price decay when the market goes sideways
Money literally vanishing into thin air lol i'm good my man

>> No.21744653

So what is tesla gonna do next week? Tank? Deadline to get in on the split was yesterday

>> No.21744687

>>21744653
TSLA to 600 next week. Its over.

>> No.21744748

>>21744687
t. shorty mcshort shorts - 675% ytd

>> No.21744869

Should I sell my AAL shares at a loss? It’s looking pretty shit for them for a long time now. Thinking of just putting my salvaged cash into ETFs and sleeping easier.

>> No.21744893

>>21744653
It will dump after the split. Retards will see a smaller value per share and start panic selling.

>> No.21744900

>>21744869
Do it. Stop living in fear.

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>bro just go long on RIG
i am making so much money just using /smg/ as a belweather

>> No.21744965

>>21744869
no

>> No.21745218

I've bought steel stonks, IBM and Coke this week.

>> No.21745473

Is Invesco Mortgage (IVR) going to go bankrupt? Their stock price went down to $2.93 ever since they stopped giving divies

>> No.21745493

>>21744869
Hold on to it for a couple of years. Think logically about this

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21745569

What exchange do you guys prefer for crypto? I've pretty much settled on webull for active stock trading but for crypto coinbase has got to be the most useless piece of shit I've ever seen.

>> No.21745582

I hate weekends.

>> No.21745586

>>21742941
40% is great, but shll did the same thing + shll has a better chance at being 40 than tesla going to 3000....(pre-split).

I like Tesla, but the chance to 2x in the next 2-3 years.....just don't see it.

SHLL, LCA & other spacs can 2x in the next 6 months.

>> No.21745624

>>21745473
I remember the thread a few months ago where Anons jumped in on it at $6 thinking that the Real Estate will soon recover. Same with the Airlines and Cruises. Looks like they'll need another 10 years.

>> No.21745630

>>21745569
Eat my ass

>> No.21745649

>>21744463
>As a /g/entooman I despise apple and iToddlers.
so basically unemployed or a burger flipper who writes hello world scripts in python on his 2011 T420

50% of the people here work in software eng, that's why we have money to throw away.

>> No.21745665

>>21744653
I suspect it will crash down to $1200 over these 5 days, Friday will be a massacre. All these rent-due Zoomers holding for the split, not knowing that it literally doesn't fucking matter. They'll watch in disbelief as the Smart Money migrates or just takes profits. After the split the Zoomers will escape just to not lose too much as it plummets, then will be a nice dip to buy in and hold.

>> No.21745671

>>21745586
what are spacs and which other ones exist?

>> No.21745699

>>21745671
Spacs are special acquisitions companies that are basically shell companies which seek to partner with an existing private business to make them go public by cutting through some listing red tape.

>> No.21745879

BAKING

>> No.21745927

NEW

>>21745918
>>21745918
>>21745918
>>21745918

>> No.21745948

>>21736039
I know that feel.