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What phase of the bubble are we at?

>> No.21710921

>>21710886
Hot air balloon status

>> No.21710939

LINK one week ago

>> No.21710971

>>21710886
2017 Bitcoin

>> No.21711090

>>21710886

It's hard to tell, we broke the space-time continuum a couple of months ago.

>> No.21711471

>>21710886
>apple 2 trillion dollar mc has not come up with any good IP since the 2010s
>tesla a car company that wants to control the energy of the earth with solar and wind that is notoriously shit and unreliable
>amazon, fb, google ect business models all come from mostly ad revenue, and your stolen data, totally unsustainable.
idk anon, you tell me? this bubble should have popped YEARS ago but it hasnt, and i dont think it will. there is a reason people call this a clown world rn

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>>21710886

Should I setup a stop loss to secure my profits or wait for the split, and retarded newfag investors will buy it up again after the split because "it's cheaper again", lmao.

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>>21711471

You don't understand Google's business model. They are like a toll booth for the internet, most of their revenue is from various ads.

It's a stable and secure business model, think of it as a utility, or gas pipeline company, but digit.

Amazon however is sketchy and I stay away from it.

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new paradigm (aka new normal)

when collapsed revenues dont recover eoy it will be the denial phase

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>>21710886
did you know apple went from a 1 trillion evaluation to 2 trillion since march?
lol

>> No.21711800

>>21711471
amazon, at least is massive, I wouldn't equate them and the the other Internet companies with Tesla, but the only way their stock will fall is if the government finally regulates them

>> No.21711911

>>21711633
are you unaware of the shitshow that is currently facing the tech industry right now because of this business model, tech companies want to appear squeaky clean so they are full blown SJW and also remove undesirables from their platform because its bad for business more than it is political motivation. Trump wants to break up the big tech because of them treating conservatives like garbage but knows however the entire economy is propped up by these big 5 companies and once they go chinas tech bubble will take over and the usa will no longer be the world superpower, thats the fear atleast. But these events wont happen if trump loses biden doest care about big tech

>> No.21711949

>>21711471
TSLA is different.
It's not just solar, it's their IP on battery chemistry and their IP on level 5 autonomy.
Once their level 5 if fully trained, imagine that Tesla quit making cars and just sold a hardware and software package to every other car mfg. A fully trained AI in a box that got every car manufacturer up to Tesla level autonomy.
Imagine that once their million miles battery comes to fruition, they just sell the battery and BMS to all other mfgs.
The cost savings to anybody wanting to get in to electrics would be astronomical and Tesla would corner that market.
They beat everybody to the research, created competition driven by demand, and could within 5 years reach a place where it is totally unnecessary to even make a car and instead just license the IP.
This is why Tesla is so high.
Because the EV revolution will be entirely on their backs in 5 years.

>> No.21711988

>>21710939
very ominous

>> No.21712068

>>21711949
this
is what you sound like when the paid youtube shills got to you.

>> No.21712090

Still laughing at /smg/ who were so insistent it wasn't going anywhere and only a fool would pay more than 500 per share

>> No.21712129

>>21711949
tesla doesn't do anything on batteries
neither r&d nor manufacturing
they own nothing in this space, they just market buy
tesla's biggest business is comnifornian carbontax schemes

>> No.21712145

>>21711911

You're mixing up /pol/shit with bad business predictions.

No one will touch the Big 5, they drive the NASDAQ.

>> No.21712151

>>21710886
Remember when 420 was a big deal?

>> No.21712243

literally new paradigm. fml I sat watching this chart whe it was $190 and was *this* close to buying, but i probably bought shitcoins instead

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>>21711949
>It's not just solar, it's their IP on battery chemistry and their IP on level 5 autonomy.

How could you be so wrong? They just buy their batteries from Panasonic and have ZERO input into R&D or manufacturing, except for publishing specs they need to meet for their cars.

>> No.21712666

>>21711949
>battery chemistry
>level 5 autonomy

so what? autonomy is a joke there will never be a point of removal for the driver, there is just too many variables up in the air including legal issues if someone hits a person in a automaded car who is responsible? there is a reason why commercial planes still need pilots automation will never replace things like driving, it is just too difficult and unnecessary.
batteries have been around since the 19th century there is nothing propietary about a battery what is this industry leading towards exactly? batteries on trucks? batteries on planes? rocketships? it doesnt make a difference because at the end of the day the energy is still comming from somewhere. also batteries are the most inefficent thing and just to give u an example, ur laptop always runs better plugged in compared to not being on a charge. Same principle applies when ur laptop or phone gets old the battery doesnt even work anymore and you have to have the device constantly plugged in, whenever you use something from a power bank there is a decay peroid with storing and withdrawing the energy and we dont hear about it now but in 5 years time tesla cars are probably going to have battery problems and that decay peroid i said. people think elon is a god but he is possibly the biggest scam artists of the 21st century

>> No.21712797

>>21712129
>>21712242
>publish specs https://electrek.co/2019/12/26/tesla-patents-battery-chemistry-cheaper/
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-tesla-batteries-exclusive-idUSKBN22Q1WC
https://electrek.co/2020/01/09/tesla-jeff-dahn-new-head-advanced-battery-research-canada/

Imagining hating a company so much you willfully ignore what is right in front of you.

>> No.21712847

>>21712129
what are gigafactories?

>> No.21712915

>>21710886

>Tesla, which assumed the mantle of the world's most-valuable carmaker in July despite its modest -- less than 1% -- contribution to total global sales, will sell, at most, 500,00 cars this year.

Nowhere really worth what the market is valuing it at.

Fake pump

>> No.21713088

>>21712666
>level 5 isn't needed
>muh insurance
you're thinking far to small.
Level 5 autonomy is a literal hive mind.
Imagine every vehicle knowing where every other vehicle is.
Imagine every vehicle being driven to it's absolute proper specification.
Mining discovered the cost savings over a decade ago. Look in to Komatsu/MMS FrontRunner.

>> No.21713346

Tesla just shows the absolute peak euphoria we are in right now, especially with new investors. They have no idea, they just see tesla and press buy. They think the stock split gets them 5x their money.

It will come down, always does. At least to more reasonable levels before getting back to these levels.

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>>21713346
>They have no idea, they just see tesla and press buy. They think the stock split gets them 5x their money.

Because of the "lower price" stock, they will continue bidding it up after the split.

I'm riding this bitch out.

>> No.21713852

>>21710886
How do I short this shit?

>> No.21714023

>>21713852
>How do I short this shit?
Just punch yourself in the balls. It's basically the same thing as shorting tesla.

>> No.21714186

>>21712915
>thinking prices are based off of current sale figures
anon i...

>> No.21714230

>>21711949
Retard. Half the shit you just wrote isn't even true.

>> No.21714248

>>21710886
Whatever, a couple so-called experts said $1900 was the peak for this year and I believed them.