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Yes it will.
>but no one would work!?
Okay and? It’s time we moved past this slave based economy. Some people being normal faggots will volunteer at community centers or pick up a hobby more people might get involved in local politics and the goings on in their community.
>but muh homogeneity
You are already paypigs get some of your wealth back
>muh value
Yeah the federal reserve called and they want your concern back. We literally own the reserve fiat of the world.
>Muh Dolan blunpf maga praise kek
Please suck a cock

>> No.21704443

>>21704355
gay

>> No.21704457

Kek, they would much rather kill everyone rather than let everyone have UBI. Fuck this planet and the pedophiles who run it.

>> No.21704489

>>21704443
Black
Lives
Matter

>> No.21704506

>>21704355
Young faggots luxury communism manifesto

>> No.21704612

>>21704506
I truly look forward to the day all the boomers are dead and buried may gen x not be as cancerous as you were

>> No.21704615

>>21704355
>pro conservative values
>to undisciplined to act them out
Fuck this image hits me hard :(

>> No.21704622
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>>21704355
Checked. Change that to 'mental masturbator' or something like that.

>> No.21704645

>>21704622

I mean the 'deep thinker' thing in OP's pic.

>> No.21704955

>>21704645
You didn’t need to correct yourself nigga I understood you

>> No.21705113

>>21704355
>Okay and?
who finances it

>> No.21705471
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>>21705113
Jeff Bezos but it will be you if you don't shut the fuck up. This bald headed lex luthor wannabe has been getting a free ride for too long. Next day delivery isn't free its time to pay up

>> No.21705532

>>21704355
I want a new Samsung phone. Who is gonna build it?

>> No.21705642

>>21704355
Only works if the faggots end every other gibs program

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>>21705532

>> No.21705670

>>21705532
Don't be myopic and obtuse cunt

>> No.21705705

>>21704489
To whom?

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>> No.21705881

>>21704457
I would much rather that then having people like me working to pay your UBI. Get a fucking job you loser. If you think AI and automation will replace you, get more qualifications in a career where that wont happen. Fuck. Why on earth do you think you should deserve to live off the back of other people's work. You are a parasite sir. It is only the uneducated, unskilled and lazy that like the idea of UBI, because you know that without it, you will not have a place in the automated world we are heading towards. Better you just cease to exist then burden the rest of society with your presence.

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21705968

consider eugenics

>> No.21705992
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>>21705881
> Matter of fact, the only thing a crab is good for is holding back other crabs. A crab don't want to see another crab make it.Crab is like, "If I'm gonna die, we all gonna die." I admire that.

>> No.21705993

Someone has to be miserable so we can be happy.

UBI will change nothing. There will still be some kind of inequality, so those of us at the top can look down on the plebs. You enjoy a world of luxuries inaccessible to the workers of 1900, let alone 1000 and it hasn't made you even slightly happier than them. Perhaps the opposite, as we slowly commercialize every aspect of human existence. We've taken love, friendship and reproduction: soon we'll come for you experiences and emotions themselves. Neuralink could let us sell experiences, make them synthetically. No matter what happens, you'll still be on the bottom, even if it it's moving higher.

>> No.21706029

>>21704355
It will but not yet. Once AI gets fully underway and automation sweeps jobs then we can look at getting some comfy ass UBI. We can hold off until then.

>> No.21706128

>>21704355

The only way in which UBI will work is if we can start sterilizing people. WHICH I AM ALL FOR.

You want free gibs? Sure, here you go, just don't have any fucking kids or we will stop giving you anything and you will be left to fend for yourself/rot.

What a great world this would be.

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>>21705992
I would rather see the world fall apart around us then support your neet lifestyle any more then I am forced to now. They should just cut all social security and when the dust settles, we can start again with those who are left, because it certainly wouldn't be you neet's.
>Capitalism: God's way of determining who is smart and who is poor.

>> No.21706188

>>21706128
This. Forced sterilisation and mandatory community service. Pick up rubbish (supervised by someone who is paid to be there) for 8 hours a day, 4 days per week. Or mowing the lawns off those who work to support your useless ass.

>> No.21706197

>>21704355
I dont see why you feel the need to argue about it, it's pretty much inevitable at this point unless they want large swathes of people destroying the infrastructure.. Which will happen if the wealth inequality gets too extreme under AI. Look they'll be glad to give you money when the time comes, because the last thing they want is a bunch of rioting mobs fucking everything up. Once the slaves stop caring about the money is when they actually have the power to do something, it's in the kings interest to keep everyone interested in the game and money. It strengthens his position. So don't worry you'll get your crumbs.

>> No.21706237

>>21706128
>>21706188
only reasonable way to go about things

>> No.21706241

>>21706197
If there are rioting mobs, do you really think the people who will be working to support your gibs wont also support the government in just exterminating your useless asses? The people in this country who are anti-tyranny are the ones who will likely still be working.
You place too much credit on your own ability to be a threat.

>> No.21706276

The rich don't give a fuck if you're a drone that works or not. There will always be third world monkeys who will do your job for less.

The rich will push UBI when they want full control over your life rest assured, but I bet you, they absolutely will find a way to make you work for it. Rest assured there will likely be some kind of socialistic government in place that will use social credits to shame you back into working for your measly 2k a month from UBI. (before taxes ofc what did you think you were entitled to that full amount?)

Certain countries will transition to consumer countries where robots like you exist to spend allowances from father government.
Certain countries will exist to create the products at pennies to the dollar.
And none of you who haven't made it by then will be anything but slaves.

>> No.21706334

>>21704355
no it wont the social contrat betwen people and the society would be broken and it would not be pretty

aks yourself this what value human life have? and what determent it? do you really belive that the people in power want parasites on them?

>> No.21706370

>>21706197
more likely a war or pandemic to thin the herd
>strengthens his position
how? when cow stops giving milk she is send to slaughterhouse. no dead weight

>> No.21706415

>>21705881
I already have a job and in the process of getting more qualifications, but sir, not a single job will be safe from AI and automation on a long enough timeline. I'm afraid neither of us will have a place in an automated world, because at the end of the day, we're just human.

>> No.21706447

>>21706370
This. Cull the weak so that the herd can survive. If you do not bring anything to the table, you don't eat from the table.

>> No.21706529

>>21706415
Then they will need to severely reduce the population so that it is feasible to have a non-productive society. It would be harder to do this all at once, rather then just slowly removing those that are not required, until you have a sustainable population, then you police child birth and introduce a UBI. Might as well get it started sooner, rather then later.

>> No.21706575

>>21706241
Kek maybe in your African shithole that's a possibility, but then again I don't think you'll be getting the choice anytime soon.
>>21706370
Because the only thing that makes the king powerful is that people believe in his power and strive to become him. The moment the poor unite and decide they don't need money then he can be taken down, but as long as the poor strive for money in the hope of being king that makes him stronger.

>> No.21706662

>>21706140
lol, its hilarious you think the majority of people are on your side
eugenics faggots are literally all incels and the majority of people hate your guts and would be glad to kill you off first

>> No.21706697

>>21706415
humans will always value humans doing human shit. has nothing to do with survival/automation. most jobs today don't. if no other human values you enough to give you money tokens, you have no value. if AI is better at being human than humans, then AI will outcompete us by right and we will die out or merge

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>>21704355
>move past this slave based economy
lol
We're all going to have a whip under our skin, powered by smart contracts and chainlink.

>> No.21706819

>>21704355
What are you gonna buy with this money? Automated produced stuff is garbage that only the lowest of society consume.
We need automation to get people to work in biological agriculture, handicraft, tailoring and so on.

New markets can emerge, just don't suppress all motivation by mean of UBI and it will work out

>> No.21706831

>>21706575
>only thing that makes the king powerful is that people believe in his power
no. resources and superior weaponry

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>>21704355
Sir this is an ARPA / multipartycomputation / de-fi mongolian Bella basket weaving board. What do you want us to say ?

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>>21704355
Based

>> No.21706913

>>21706876
>that ID
shit as fuck just saying

>> No.21706981

>>21706831
You're missing the point. And no not really, every world leader is scared of people rising up and they'll use every trick in the book to keep people divided or lulled. The king tries to quell revolt by giving everyone a relative sense of abundance and wealth, in reality you're being used.

>> No.21706988

>>21704355
I'm this guy except I don't do drugs and think conservative values are arbitrary garbage.

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>>21706128
>>21706188
You're both stupid. Look how poorly the state is going with education, justice, and basically everything it's touching. Do you really want to have these paper pushers decide on something as important as who gets to reproduce and who get sterilized?

>> No.21707009

>>21706188
>mandatory community service
>8 hours a day 4 days per week

nigga that's just a job. im down with the sterilization but there's no point if you're just going to force them to have a job, and a shitty one at that. kinda defeats the whole purpose.

>> No.21707019

>>21706662
>majority of people hate your guts and would be glad to kill you off first
only you are too dumb and lazy to actually organize. that would be work, unfortunately. you'll be manipulated to do it yourself, i.e. abortion and childfree living. you want to be cool among your peers, right

>> No.21707062

>>21706981
>every world leader is scared of people rising up
only because they need them to work, retard

>> No.21707131

>>21704355
Socialism > UBI

>> No.21707192

UBI won't work, its like an entry-level knowledge of economics to understand that.

Money has value and if you hand it to everyone it decreases that value. The price of everything would go up as richfags buy everything up in order to keep their wealth. UBI is NPC Bluepill sheltered kid-tier.

The red pill is hoping for a second wave of covid to demolish the economy so that you can get in on the bull market, dude making money isn't hard, most people are just stupid.

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>>21707062

>> No.21707499

>>21707192
The USD has value because it's pegged to oil, and America has the mightiest military in the world to back it up. They also just fucking print money whenever they feel its necessary. The idea that it's not feasible is nonsense, America can do whatever it wants with it's wealth.