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>> No.21290750
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What the fuck should I do? Just hold?

>> No.21290764
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>hundreds of years of theory about "no free lunch"
>MFW

>> No.21290775
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>>21290680
FUCK FUCK FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.21290789

>>21290750
Just wage slave for 40 years.

>> No.21290805

Will MRNA moon?

>> No.21290850

GUYS I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT"S OVER

SELL ALL YOUR STOCKS
STOCK UP ON AMMO
BARRICADE YOUR HOUSE

IT'S OVER

>> No.21290880

>>21290750
no you better sell it all now bro there's no way in hell any of those multi billion dollar companies are going to ever recover oh this is a tragedy

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>>21290680
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.21290918

>>21290850
I am the CEO of Racism and I can tell you that it is indeed "over".

-Hugh K. Oak
CEO, Racism Inc.

>> No.21290938

Wow the forrest. Nothing but spiders and flies every square foot. Bonus Mountain lions and bears trying to eat you

>> No.21290949

is intel a good buy?

>> No.21290950

So what ipos you buying this week. If you're buying any at all

>> No.21290963

>>21290938
Spiders and bears are based. Raccoons and skunks are jews.

>> No.21290983
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Future looks bright tomorrow.

>> No.21290998

>>21290949
Wait until a couple more earnings reports.
They can't fab their own chips!

>> No.21291012

>>21290949

They haven't bottomed out yet, will continue to drop for another year maybe.

>> No.21291023

>>21290983
thats what we said yesterday

>> No.21291048
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>>21290891
Amazon should introduce a feature that tells you if your package was prepared by a minority employee. It lets dems collect brownie points when they post a picture of their "prepared by minority" sticker to twitter, and it lets me know which warehouses to avoid

>> No.21291093

>>21291048
>implying they're not just going to replace their entire workforce with robots by 2024.

>> No.21291130

Did anyone figure out the taxes they are going to owe with all these gains. I owe a lot.

>> No.21291188

>>21291130
I wouldn't worry there wont be anyone to pay taxes to come next tax season, I'd be more worried about how much ammo I have

>> No.21291201

>>21291130
short term (less than 1 year) = your income tax rate

This is why I'm sheepish about day trading. nice seeing giant gains but god damn, I'd prefer to give as little of my money to the gov as I can.

>> No.21291202

>>21291130
>having gains
funny

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>>21290938
>>21290963

Hey. The forest is cool. Lots of cool things happen there. Not to mention they have squirrels and all that.

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>>21290326
>people who watch cramer are
kek

I think he's right or close to it. Consumer Discretionary (travel and cruises might count?) and financials are supposed to thrive at the beginning of an expansion.

Small caps should too, but who the hell knows if they've been knocked out by COVID?

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>>21291202
This anon gets it. I plan on being poor forever

>> No.21291307

>>21291265
Watched a youtube clip from his show today. P much said this is gonna be your last chance to get shit while it's low because if you wait for the annoncement of a trusted vaccine it's already to late.

>> No.21291318

>>21291093
This. amazon snuck all the robotics into the factories so normies don't know.

>> No.21291325

>>21291307
Inversing cramer is so reliable, this might be the top of the next slow leg down

>> No.21291335

>>21291307
yeah he shilled the rotation hard.

>> No.21291351

>>21291325
He did also say this is the bottom of the trough or that what he was implying. idrk

>> No.21291362
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>>21290775
that haircut always reminds me of terra formars desu

Also, red or green day tomorrow?

>> No.21291384

.. futures

open AH high
crab down to lows an hour before EU open
rally into USA open

what algos are driving all this nearly every day

>> No.21291413

>>21291307
he said you WILL be too late if you wait for a vaccine to be approved before buying the recovery stocks (like travel, restaurants & bars, cruises, etc.)

He also said the non-recovrey stocks, the ones that thrive when people have to stay home, like peleton and the big techs and zoom, will not be rallying with them, and they will likely be sold for cash to buy those other ones.

>>21291351
the bottom is where things can't go much lower.
Interestingly, the stock market tends to bottom about 6 months before the real economy does.

We are about 5 months out from when it bottomed.

>> No.21291428

>>21290950
Is there any of significance or just meme ones?

>> No.21291466

>>21291428
BEKE is something i'm looking to day trade for quick cash. It's going to be chinas 2nd biggest IPO. They're the biggest real estate company in china and made 3.2 trillion last year.

>> No.21291470

>>21291413
>Interestingly, the stock market tends to bottom about 6 months before the real economy does.
Only if the actual economy gets its own INFINITE PRINTER WORKS

>> No.21291476

>>21290891
amazon already fills the sweatshop warehouses with minorities lol

>> No.21291503

are you niggas selling airlines now or holding longterm
feel like I should sell now and wait for the inevitable next dip

>> No.21291504

>>21291278
>>21291202
What are you two doing? I've got 63k in gains and I made some giant fuck ups like losing 12k in etsy and 8k in peleton. And I shilled etsy on biz for 9 months!

>> No.21291507
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>>21291307
>relying on an ass clown shilling stocks on medicine

There is no possible timeline where there's a proven, reliable vaccine before the end of the year.

Its a long process that usually takes years even before the human test trials.

>> No.21291516

should we buy RKT? itll double if memers ever consider it a fintech company

>> No.21291526

MRNA

>> No.21291535

>>21291516
Save your money for Marqeta's IPO instead which will be sometime near the end of this year/beginning of next

>> No.21291555

>>21291504
meme stocks. and not taking profits friday. i've learned this the hard way. and i won't make it happen again,
>>21291516
bought the IPO price lol
>>21291535
what do they do?

>> No.21291579

>>21291535
i do like that IPO also

hopefully i wont forget about it lol

>> No.21291581

>>21291470
nah not really

>>21291507
>There is no possible timeline where there's a proven, reliable vaccine before the end of the year.
Sure. And what would you do if you were in charge? The placebo effect can be very powerful.

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>>21290680
BASED OP

>>21290891
FUCK I just fucking bought JPM, guess it's time to sell already

>>21290950
Palantir IPO when? I want to invest in killing terrorists and deporting illegals.

>>21291503
I've been holding DAL since March and I think I'm just going to keep it until I die tbqh.

Hopefully I get to have my first haircut since January tomorrow.

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>>21291466
I would normally throw money at a Chinese firm, but I would be afraid that it gets black listed due to Trump and the general sentiment.

Im pretty sure that's why NIO hasn't taken off. I wanted to buy in but its stagnant with no volume. It has good earnings, and great products.

>> No.21291628

>>21291503
im thinking about buying JETS again

and selling if it goes up 10 or 20% again

>> No.21291656

>>21291555
>what do they do?
Basically allow other companies to create their own pseudo-debit cards. Backends Ubereats, Doordash, Square, Instacart, etc. They had one of the most subscribed IPOs in recent history. Could be, and I mean COULD be (like any IPO), eventually up there with the big boys like MA or V

>> No.21291696

>>21291592
we still don't know yet. it's confidential and they're super secretive so its gonna be a while probs
>>21291597
That does remind me of one of the risks of BEKE IPO. like 40% of the company is ironically owned by tencent. So that does worry me so i'm not going to hold this for long at all
>>21291656
yea i just watched the video they made describing their product. This actually looks really innovative and a first of it's market. Especially with how they cut out the middle man they won't have to rely on banks anymore. I'll have to keep an eye out for that one. Depending if i even have enough money by then to buy them

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>>21291581
>Sure. And what would you do if you were in charge?

1. Send national guard to curve stomp protesters
2. Sue media companies for libel
3. Use the military/black project funds to speed up the research
4. human test trials in some shit hole 3rd world country
5. Copyright vaccine
6. Sell at a premium to the world a few months after America is saved.

As a bonus give the go ahead to defund police at the states pandering to BLM and mandate a lockdown so the officials pandering it will be devoured by feral niggers.

Stock market would be green forever.

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>>21291503
>are you niggas selling airlines now or holding longterm
No long hodl. Swing trade daily candles. Volatility still too high for a comfortable long hodl. I mean you can, and in a year or something you should be well ahead, but with airlines easily moving +/- 40% each way, swing is... the thing. for me. with airlines. and cruises.

>> No.21291805

>>21291742
you forgot universal health care

>> No.21291828
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Looks like /pol/ is getting in on the fun

>> No.21291846

>>21291742
>>21291742
eating that many hamburgers at once shouldn't be legal.

>> No.21291851

>>21291555
Literally all you have to have done was buy anything decent after the corona crash and you’d be doing fine.

>> No.21291869

>>21291851
i only started trading since the beginning of the summer.

>> No.21291884

>>21291742
Yeah, I'm going to pick the current retard government over the one you've dreamed up.

If they have something they can say HELPS prevent infection or prepare the immune system so infection would be less severe, anything that looks like it wasn't a waste of time and money and gives hope, then people will at least think their elected officials aren't total fuckups, and maybe they'll get out there and start working and spending and such.

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>>21291793
I don’t know Yotsuba......

I don’t know about swinging Airlines and cruises.... I’ve losf enough money from stupidity as it stands

>> No.21291896

Do you guys think that we are going to war with China if Trump wins again?
What are your positions in case of war?

>> No.21291921

Why the fuck am I so bad at stonks

>> No.21291922

>>21291896
we're at war, it's just not that kind of war

>> No.21291938

>>21291896
>Do you guys think that we are going to war with China if Trump wins again?
No
The bluster is useful politics.
>What are your positions in case of war?
Shorting overbought boomerstocks like RTX and accumulating US treasuries to be sold afterward

>> No.21291953

Is anyone holding VYST? It was doing well the past few days but tanked hard today like everything else

>> No.21291989

>>21291921
It’s kinda funny how many times I’ve boughten at the worst possible times. Or sold minutes before a big pump. But overall it all seems to go green. You just figure out how to do it.

>> No.21292015

>>21291896
I think we are currently at war with China, and the war won’t end until we surrender and obey, or the CCP is beaten into a state of reasonableness

>> No.21292088

To the anon who mentioned the marqeta IPO thank you for telling me i'll make sure to remember this

>> No.21292105
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Accumulating Tencent and Alibaba for some time now. Not stopping any time soon.

>> No.21292146

>>21291938
I think we are at war. Modern warfare has more dimensions than boomer warfare. We are currently at war with China in the cyber and information space, but not on land-sea-air dimensions.

>> No.21292147

>>21292105
>tencent
i don't see why but alright
>alibaba
understandable

>> No.21292150
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>futures

>> No.21292168

>>21292146
Unrestricted warfare

>> No.21292190

>>21290805
I hope so, the post-market moon only made me break even.

>> No.21292200

>>21292147
Wanna tap in on the weeb bucks they get for selling skins to thirsty kids in MOBAs.

>> No.21292211

>>21292200
my main problem is the executive order so i would milk it for as long as you can before it goes into action

>> No.21292221

>>21291188
How come Are you afraid of Biden passing the tax bill

>> No.21292248

>>21292211
Kinda mad at Trump for doing this to my chink stocks ngl

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>>21292248
I would be wary of holding any Chinese stocks fren.

>> No.21292271

>>21292248
lol yea same here
t. nio bag holder

>> No.21292274
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Congratulations to anyone holding SWBI or TSLA
TSLA stock split 5 for 1
SWBI holders will get 1 stock of American Outdoor Brands for each 4 stock of SWBI

>> No.21292279

any other NEET traders here.
for the first time in my life I'm actually considering getting a wageslave job just so I can get more $$$ to push into Nvidia or something like that

>> No.21292303

>>21292274
TSLA is also giving a stock dividend of 4 after the split as well so nomatter when you buy. It's a plus

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>>21292150
Same happened last night. Hopefully we all have a good day tomorrow

>> No.21292382

>sold the last of my Tesla on Friday

Why does this shit happen to me. Oh well at least I made $4800 in 4 months on them

>> No.21292390

>>21292357
Best of luck fren

>> No.21292410

>>21292261
Yeah I agree, but if it wasn't for the Trumpet they would be the best bets.

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>>21292390
You as well!

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>>21290680
Wkhs sell limit

>> No.21292486

>>21292303
>TSLA becoming a boomer dividend stock
Nice, adding to the list of buys

>> No.21292530

>>21292486
Based

>> No.21292534

>>21292274
huh? just now?
didn't they spin off SWBI months ago?

>>21292200
then why not BILI?

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Look. I had tomato soup and grilled cheese just now. My farts don't smell that good

>> No.21292621

>sell Apple at $390 for nice profits
>next week announced stock split
>sell Tesla at $1600 for 400% profits
>3 trading days later announce stock split

What do you guys want me to do next

>> No.21292628

>>21292534
Haven't thought about bili. Are they like the Chinese YouTube or something?

>> No.21292647

>>21292621
Sell Google or Amazon.

>> No.21292680

>>21292647
Not selling my jewgle stocks and I don’t own any amazon

>> No.21292686

>>21292486
not dividend dividend. but for each common stock you hold by august 21st you will get 4 shares to. They are literally giving you more shares

>> No.21292702

>>21292628
I think similar, and also run the Fate Grand Order mobile game in china

>> No.21292727

>>21292686
Yeah but they're lowering the price per share. The amount of money you have invested in the stock doesn't change.

>> No.21292778

>>21292686
That's totally different from:
>TSLA is also giving a stock dividend of 4 after the split as well so nomatter when you buy. It's a plus
That IS the split. They have a stock worth $X, and they're splitting it into 5 shares of $X/5. So you end up with the same value of $X, but it's just that now each share is only worth 1/5 of what it was worth before the split.

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what's a good broker for a noob from New Zealand?
robinhood not available here, can't open IB account.

>> No.21292813

at this point I think the best strategy is literally just don’t sell any of my stocks because every time I do they shoot up

>> No.21292842

If digits, market plunges 5% on open.

>> No.21292849

>>21292727
>>21292778
exactly it's a stock split ON TOP of a share dividend. say you have 10 shares right. you're going to havve 50 shares and another 40 shares on top of that since you get 4 extra shares per common stock. so you're getting 90 shares in total

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/08/11/2076760/0/en/Tesla-Announces-a-Five-for-One-Stock-Split.html

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I just can't catch a big break with the stock market. I switch to a different batch of stocks, a sector basically,....the ones I was in prior go up. The one's I moved to? Crabbing where the top range peaks at the price I bought some in at. Oh look how nice. I'm doing this for my family yet I keep screwing up. The part that saddens me the most is my sibling who has fared worse. He's down a lot. Nearly every move he makes moves hard against him or stagnates until he finally acts. Even recommended a certain stock, only for him to cash out a position he's had for a while and jump in on my recommendation. His stock pumps by over 10% after being stagnate for so long, mine dumps by nearly 3% (it's a lot due to the stock price). I can't stop the sorrow anymore. I can just feel it even though he hasn't said it. The sorrow and despair he is likely feeling fills me past the brim. Almost every move he goes through with keeps moving against him. Unless I can pull off a big move to wipe out his losses I just don't see him or I pulling it off. My meagar winnings are nothing if he loses. I just wanted to make their lives comfy and easy but instead I get to see my brother in the pit of despair. While I spiral into sorrow seeing what happens to him. I'm sorry for failing, there's nothing more I can do I can't even get a job. I lay here, a failure of a man filled with sorrow.

>> No.21292902

>>21292858
Half in TQQQ, half in TMF and see how it goes for a year then rebalance and DCA every paycheck/neetbux. Thank me from your yacht in 20

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>>21292150
Yep standard melt up. You don't fully appreciate it when you're long, I don't think. You kind of just sigh and say yes, yes you are going the correct direction and this pleases me. However, if you're in the middle of a short and this shit starts it's a maddening feel. Get what looks like a good entry for a (usually brief) bearish move then overnight futures turn round and say nope we're not doing that nevermind. Drives you crazy. One of the hundreds of reasons shorting the index sucks and why you shouldn't even attempt to do it unless you get a very specific setup. If you haven't figured out a fairly decent short setup for indexes, don't even bother. You're just going to get bled to death getting sqeezed constantly AND missing the long entry while you're thinking about closing your short.

>> No.21292914

>>21292858
Kill yourself and claim the insurance

>> No.21292923

>>21292382
It happens. I learned my lesson when I got cold feet and sold at $240 almost a year ago. Theres still time to buy back in. Also, stop measuring in raw value, always percentages.

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>>21292914

>> No.21292965

>>21292939
It’s pretty self explanatory

Kill yourself

And claim the insurance

>> No.21292998

>>21292902
>in 20
20 years to retire and I might as well just wagecuck at that point. I'll at least get retirement benefits.

>>21292914
No.

>> No.21293018

>>21292849
That's not what's happening, read your link again SLOWLY.

>> No.21293031

>>21292849
How in the hell did you get to that incorrect interpretation from this?

> PALO ALTO, Calif., Aug. 11, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Tesla, Inc. (“Tesla”) announced today that the Board of Directors has approved and declared a five-for-one split of Tesla’s common stock in the form of a stock dividend to make stock ownership more accessible to employees and investors. Each stockholder of record on August 21, 2020 will receive a dividend of four additional shares of common stock for each then-held share, to be distributed after close of trading on August 28, 2020. Trading will begin on a stock split-adjusted basis on August 31, 2020.

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>>21292965

>> No.21293069

>>21292965
Master plan

>> No.21293074

>>21293031
>>21293018
i probably have dimentia my bad i'm just a retard

>> No.21293082

I am going to fucking kill my self. Never selling a stock again.

>> No.21293087

>>21293031
Fuck yeah 9 free shares

>> No.21293093

>>21293031
No wonder he doesn't make money as seen here >>21291202

>> No.21293099

>>21292998
>>21293060
>>21293069
>they don’t kill themselves and claim the insurance

I’ev killed myself seven times this year and now my portfolio is GREEN GREEN GREEN

>> No.21293138

Here's one Big Brain Boys:

What happens if you have fractional shares and a company splits?

For instance having .5 shares of TSLA before they split, do you suddenly have ~2&1/4 shares?

>> No.21293140
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What's going on with Amazon? Last few days it's been getting shelllacked.

>> No.21293139

>>21293082
iktf
these lessons can harden you, teach you what you're doing wrong.
Maybe, I don't know, I'll mention it if it happens to me.

>>21293074
nah just the type to jump to conclusions I'd guess

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>>21293099
Haven't kill'd myself even once
>i'm literal ngmi

>> No.21293154

>>21293139
this

>> No.21293169

>yesterday Cramer shiled for recovery stocks
>huge drop EoD
>today virus shilling back on the menu

its all so tiresome

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>>21293138
you get fucked who cares about fractions

>> No.21293179

>>21293147
Sounds pretty bearish ngl

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$900 invested in WFC gets me a $3.60 dividend payout on September 1st. Thank you Wells Fargo very cool.

>> No.21293221

>>21293138
it's 5 for one, so you'd multiply what you have by 5. Which would be 2&1/2 shares, or 2.5.

>>21293169
>>yesterday Cramer shiled for recovery stocks
yep and I think he's right. I'm giving him 70% odds. He was already saying the rotation began last week, I should've sold MSFT and bought more DD & WM.

>> No.21293227

>>21293194
Kek. So you’re still down over 50% for the year on WFC.

>> No.21293238

>>21292534
Yes, but this is the next step in the process. I was sent material from the company about this. Its a huge package explaining it all.
My understanding is that AOB rebranded to SWB, nullifying all old shares and issuing new ones (SWBI). The next step is to actually separate part of the business. So they turned one stock, into a new stock, and are now issuing new stocks of the separated company. You get 1 AOUT share for every 4 shares of SWBI.

>> No.21293273

>>21293138
Yes of course. Fractions are real numbers. Some brokers will offer the cash value on the fractional portion after the transfer depending on availability. I had this happen recently on a reverse split because I had left over shares that did not equal a full share. (It was oih ETF reverse split, happened in April I think)
Stay in school kids.

>> No.21293277

>>21293140
Ran too hot for a while. Needs to consolidate.

>> No.21293286

>SRNE
confess whoever bought it at $18

>> No.21293297

>>21293277

That's a correction, right?

>> No.21293316

>>21293286
i almost did.

>> No.21293367
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21293367

>futures

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.21293412

Why haven't you 10x'd your money off penny stocks since March?

>> No.21293430

>>21293412
I’m not a fucking lunatic that’s why

>> No.21293468
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21293468

Seems like someone has decided we actually do need to be at Monday's norm, interesting! Seems like bullish price action retains control even after today's drop, begs the question of why that happened o_O

>> No.21293469

>>21290680
Domino’s pizza wtf Jim Cramer did a number on it

>> No.21293482

SPOT is breaking out, if it retests to $249ish, then theres a good entry, target $270 at least, this is a good longterm hold imo

>> No.21293493

>>21293469
excuse me?

>> No.21293516

>>21293412
>penny stocks
why bother, shitcoins at least do 2x in a day and arent prone to news related 1 sec -50% dumps

>> No.21293549
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>>21293493

>> No.21293580

>UK numbers suck ass
>ITA numbers coming up

brace ur buttholes

>> No.21293631

>>21293580
>implying bad news isnt bullish

>> No.21293642

So we going all in on MRNA at open right? Moderna to the moon eh bros?

>> No.21293708

Is the best strategy to literally just buy stocks and not check your portfolio for a couple months

>> No.21293731

I don’t trust the futures. Last 4 trading days I’ve gone to bed with green futures only to wake up to a blood red portfolio.

>> No.21293733

>>21293708

Depends what you buy, if you want to be boring and buy indexes and tech yeah but then what am I going to do as a hobby.

>> No.21293739

>>21293708
depends on the stock

>> No.21293782
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21293782

Guys if there is more pullback I am going to buy more. Consider yourselves shilled.

>> No.21293783

>>21293708
Maybe but I can’t do that kek

>> No.21293865

>>21293739
I’m already 75% big tech so I’m about to just put some money into boomer stocks jpm ko pep and pg and just dca into indexes

>> No.21293867
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21293867

thoughts on tdameritrade?

trying to choose a broker to buy US stocks from NZ

>> No.21293882

Should I buy ZAL on their next dip?

>> No.21293936

>>21293867
its one of the best ones in america it seems

>> No.21293975

>>21293867
TDA is good and their thinkorswim application is great

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>>21293867
Out of 4 brokerages TD Ameritrade is my favorite and my main brokerage. Mainly because of their thinkorswim (TOS) platform.

>> No.21294059

>>21293975
>>21293990
How dos Fidelity Active Trader Pro compare to Think or Swim?

>> No.21294084

>>21293867
TDA is among the best. Their base platform is great for standard investing and TOS has incredible tools for option traders.
TOS's scan functionality and alert system have made me so much money finding gems to sell as someone with a theta based strategy.

>> No.21294257

>>21294059
TOS is the best trading platform imo
see >>21294084

>> No.21294365

>>21293867
At some point within the next like 2-3 years Charles Schwab will probably buy out TDA and then it becomes difficult to not see it as the default broker for any non-index investing (that would probably still be Vanguard)

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>>21294059
Can’t comment on Fidelity. It is one I haven’t tried because I haven’t had a reason to try anymore than I have so far, as I’m happy with TDA. Fidelity was on my list at one time though. TDA is in the process of being bought by Charles Schwab and they are a respected brokerage, so I’m thinking it can only get better. As long as they don’t mess up TOS, biggest reason I I’m all about TDA.

>> No.21294428

>>21294365
Why does no one mention Fidelity when they are the biggest broker?

>> No.21294473

>>21294084
I just started using the scan tool. Can't believe I've been neglecting it. What are some common data metrics you scan for anon?

>> No.21294539

I did edibles again... who thinks I should post bepis?...

>> No.21294555

>>21293468
Technicals?
Are we close to a fib level?

>> No.21294557

how to find undervalued stocks?

can someone tell me how they pick stocks? I'm kind of new

>> No.21294558

>>21293297
ye

>> No.21294697

>>21294557
Start with a list of publicly traded companies you have heard of before. Then look at each chart and remove all of the ones that have been trending down or sideways over the past few years. The long term trend should be a steady rise. This grants a certain buoyancy to the price action that works in your favor. Trying to fish for a bullish reversal (line switch from downwards trend to upwards trend) is often an exercise in frustration as it feels like every time it looks like it's going to move higher it instead stalls and dumps to fresh lows.

FInding 'undervalued' is tricky. You can compare p/e ratios of companies in a particular sector, things like that, but it's really hard to say a company is undervalued in a way that would help you translate that in to likely bullish trend, and green money for you, in future.

>> No.21294705

>>21294557
Shopify, zoom and Tesla

>> No.21294839

Search for forward splits. Apple and Tesla became undervalued the second they announced it Kek

>> No.21294875

>>21294473
I can't give specifics right now as I'm in a car ride home right now, but my real time scan looks for IV percentile, IV, volume, bid / ask spread and return on capital over 30-45 days. Basically whenever it pings me I already know that whatever I found is mathematically profitable for me over enough trades, I just take a cursory glance at its 6month pattern to check for red flags. Typically I go from ping to open and filled order within 30 seconds or so.

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21294876

See you lands, in 90 days. Good thing I'm about to print on my GDX calls. Before I get giga suspended.

>> No.21294905

>get shaken out of some positions before line goes up
Fuck bogged agai-
>line goes back down
Actually I was just rationally securing my profits all along

>> No.21294988

>>21294557
>how to find undervalued stocks?
You fucking don't.
>can someone tell me how they pick stocks? I'm kind of new
Thanks to the efficient markets hypothesis, all 100% public signals have been gamed to the point of unreliability.
Statistics available here (in addition to the kind of info that you seek available here):
http://thepatternsite.com/
Any actual "deals" found are the result of hedgies shorting on info that you don't have
The best indicator that's actually out their is watching a feed of insider trading.
The best result can only be achieved by completely checking out and buying indices at the optimized leverage of 2X-3X

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>mfw silver futures
>mfw I sold half my position today

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Is klangy sleeping??

>> No.21295094

If my portfolio is a mess is it a good idea to just liquidate the whole thing and start from scratch.

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21295095

wha the hell time is... oh. Right.

KLANG KLANG KLANG KLANG KLANG

premarket is open and stuff. Green as fuck.
https://www.marketwatch.com/tools/screener/premarket

>>21295071
I got distracted.

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Hold Outokumpu long, this shit is gonna grow 10 times over when the EU puts those carbon taxes in place, it's the largest stainless steel factory in the EU and produces stainless steel in an incredibly eco friendly manner. Space X fame might also raise it when they start pumping out those stainless steel rockets.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/OUT1V.HE/

>> No.21295128

>>21295094
That's not a bad idea. Keep the stuff you think you should keep but flush the messy bits and start new for sure.

>> No.21295131

>>21293642
it probably going to dump for the first 30 minutes and then it might moon

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21295176

>mfw sp500 futures +0,70% after that 1,8% drop yesterday.


Sp500 is ready for another +10%

>> No.21295186

>>21295120
The carbon tax has to be more costly than the profits they make from using it, otherwise nothing will change.

>> No.21295192

>>21295095

Pretty lazy ass premarket posts these days

>> No.21295193

Oh many airline and cruise are setting up for a great day.

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>>21295095
Ok good.

youtube.com/watch?v=Rc-bgMijF14

>> No.21295210

>>21295192
I started back at work last week and I am not as awake at this hour as result.

>> No.21295217

>UK officially in a recession as of today
Expect red today

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>>21295217
>Expect red today
AMERICA says green.

>> No.21295243

My silver junior miner position is green right now despite what happened to the paper spot price yesterday.
I wonder what the implications of physical decoupling from paper are.

>> No.21295253

>>21295217

>UK economy dipped 20%
>rebounded 8% and rising

We're going up lads not down.

>> No.21295255

>>21295243
>paper
I know the goldbugs like this distinction but I think it's useless if you're trading futures or miners.

>> No.21295277

If NIO keeps dipping im buying another 100 shares

>> No.21295278

>>21295186
Dude what?
Im saying that the carbon tax will negatively affect Outokumpu's competitors since they're mostly very high pollution east asian factories.
Currently Outokumpu is suffering quite a lot because it has to conform to very strict pollution standards while trying to compete with manufacturers who have no such costly standards.

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HORSE IS UP AND RUNNING. I REPEAT: HORSE IS IN FULL FLIGHT

>> No.21295305

>>21295278
It will negatively effect their competitors, but not enough to matter unless the carbon tax is large enough. That is what I said. And if you think they're going to explode because SpaceX MIGHT use them to make ships, you are severely overestimating them.

>> No.21295315

>>21295217
The economy is growing again now. It *was* in recession because of the two previous quarters, but isn't in a recession now due to the growth.
Also the economic impact of bat flu shouldn't be news to anyone at this point kek

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>>21295277
>If this dumpster keeps catching on fire I might by more of them

Anon, what are you doin....

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>>21294555
Market profile patterns, I don't like fib/elliott waves. Market profile works under the (correct) assumption that all large buys and sells on the futures market are the work of institutions or large players, and analyzing what levels the large boys are buying and selling at. If you chart each day's volume as a vertical histogram, then assign one standard deviation in range up/down from the mean it can show u a lot :o
>>21294988
Don't forget unusual options activity Mr. Scoops :3
>>21295095
Interesting price action 2day mr. Klangs!

>> No.21295360

>>21295305
>SpaceX MIGHT use them to make ships, you are severely overestimating them.
... dude they are already using Outokumpu steel to build spaceships, the one that made the hop the other day, Outokumpu steel

>> No.21295402

>>21295328
>dumpster
Did you see the earnings report?

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>>21295402
Don’t throw numbers my way. I posted a nice anime girl and I have a blind hatred for China. I’m not gonna let facts or numbers dictate who I trash and what I buy.

>> No.21295481

>>21295186
>>21295305
oh and btw isn't it literally the idea of a carbon tax to be serious enough to incentivise manufacturers to reduce carbon output? like what point would there be if the tax was so small that it affected nothing? besides, every little bit of price increase for manufacture will obviously immediately show on the price of the product and due to really tense modern competetion even a few percentage increase in the price of a product might be enough to merit a change of supplier.

>> No.21295502

>>21290949
Id say yes. Alot of people spergout about how AMD is the better buy now yet it proved that it still acts like a shitcoin no matter what the outlook is. Intel was 70 pre corona and is 40 now, how much cheaper do you think its going to get?

>> No.21295515

>>21295466
Thats fair enough actually i respect your view since i hate the bugmen too. Nothing would bring me more joy then seeing China nuked however i know it won't happen, and i happen to like money too.

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>Only 3 month left in the presidential election cycle

Feels bad man. We probably will never have a cheap market and a election run back to back again.

>> No.21295563

>>21295360
Then why haven't they mooned already? It didn't matter so much.

>>21295481
Do not confuse what is with what ought to be.

>> No.21295591

>>21291938
>overbought
I wish. Im holding 50 shares at 57$ and it barely even moves from there. Im investing in with a 5 year time frame though

>> No.21295606

Lol I get bogged again

>> No.21295625

>>21295591
is there a point to look at chart data?
if theres a dip and you know the business will do well in a couple of years

>> No.21295628

>>21295562
That lady taught me how to exercise and speak Japanese back when I was in middle school! What an educator :O

>> No.21295643

No precum market opening post?
Wtf is this shit

>> No.21295660

>>21292303
>>21292486
Where did you read that? Sounds bs

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>>21295515
All kidding aside, I can not and do not trust anything out of China. It’s all smoke and mirrors. 100% horseshit. I don’t trust them for any period of time. If you wanna play the game, find a quick exit.

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>>21295643
right here >>21295095

I;m off to bed. Cruise and airlines to moon.

>> No.21295681

>>21295670
Oh, sorry - Better late then never i guess!

>> No.21295744

>>21295563
>Then why haven't they mooned already?
Because Musk hasn't tweeted about it
>Do not confuse what is with what ought to be.
dude what the fuck? it is basic logic that the carbon tax will be significant enough to cause some change, that is literally the whole point, do you have any idea how tight profit margins are?

>> No.21295773

Netflix is fucking up my whole portfolio,why is it going so down? And when will be green again??

>> No.21295776

I have no idea what to buy

>> No.21295807
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>>21295663
Yeah those ghost towns are built with dogshit, check out ADVChina if you haven't before they talk all about China's corruption.
-They have to bribe doctors, and kill them if they can not save family members lives
-Everybody has a "Don't care attitude" or "Not my problem" attitude which results in a very anti-social not helpful society
-Massive amounts of human trafficing thanks to them killing all baby girls, most chink men are virgins and the only work females can get are prostitutes or housewife
-The kids are spoled because every grandparent only has one grandchild (Due to 1 child policy back in the day), Little emperor problem is serious and these kids will grow up thinking they are hot shit and being an asshole

I could keep listing shit however the CCP has been abusing the west's openess whilst having a closed system themself resulting in tem being crazy rich now, i have 0 doubt that a company like NIO will become massive think tencent or alibaba and even though i hate china im still investing in it

>> No.21295830

>>21292782
trading212 for me

>> No.21295879

do i buy moderna pre-market? when is the best time?

>> No.21295929

>>21295807
how the heck will western countries ever justify allowing china to go full mercantilism on their ass? weirdest shit ever man

>> No.21295972

>>21295929
Because we are completely cucked. Our own success and freedom has led to us becoming weak

>> No.21295979

>>21295744
I assume you have some of the numbers, then? Imagine I tax you 5% for carbon emission but switching to non-carbon processes would cost you a billion dollars.

>> No.21296003

Which should I invest more in? S&P 500 or Nasdaq?

>> No.21296029

>>21292105
BABA is a good purchase but the US China tension is just too strong, not risking

>> No.21296086

>>21291884
peak boomer

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>>21295360
>Outokumpu
OUT1V or OUTFF ?
Never bought Finnish stock before.

>> No.21296112

What's the tech play today? Continue dump?

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>Alphabet, Amazon.com, Apple, Facebook, and Microsoft—has pushed their combined valuation to a record roughly three times the market cap of the entire Russell 2000
tell this to Rockefeller or Carnegie and they would laugh in their graves

>> No.21296196

>>21292274
>SWBI holders will get 1 stock of American Outdoor Brands for each 4 stock of SWBI
Already done.
You had to have the SWBIs on Aug 10th close to qualify.
That's why SWBI took a dump yesterday at open.
Still, no one better to prop up gun sales than the democrats. Soon Biden steps in office and starts banning AR-15s. Everyone will flock to buy them. Like in the Obama times.

Also, RGR is giving out 5$ bonus dividend per share this week.

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>>21290680
Based comfy lad

>> No.21296241

>>21295879
How much has it risen premarket?

>> No.21296271

>>21296112
new ATH every day this week

>> No.21296341

Should i buy some PFE
I was planning to but then came the gorona runup which i missed
Still good to buy?

>> No.21296350

>>21290680
Is opec going to have another meeting so oil chads can have our day
Inb4 muh electric vehicles
Patrol cars don’t just disappear

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>>21296350
99.99% of all passenger vehicles use gasoline. My oil bags are heavy, but I’m gonna get paid sooner or later. I’m gonna make money.

>> No.21296407

>dump all my RH money into C because nothing else looks good and I might at least make a one percent return after a couple of days
>sell it after a couple days and go back to day trading
>a week later RH tells me I've got a $400+ dividend payment coming to me at the end of the month
I had never even heard of dividend capture and I discovered it by accident. Any one else take advantage of it?

>> No.21296471

>>21296241

around 9%

>> No.21296487

>>21296407
Typically inferior to selling calls before the ex-dividend date

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>>21296097
>OUT1V
Finally found a use for my euro broker which won't let me purchase US stocks without putting in 2000$. Let's go SpaceX steel!

>> No.21296531
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21296531

I don't get about stocks. How do you even go into debt? In fact how do you even get money from stocks?

>> No.21296565

>>21293412
I have.

>> No.21296575

>>21296531
One question at a time, King.

>> No.21296589

>>21296531
Stocks are a part of a company, if a company becomes worth more (sell more stuff or make new things) the company and your stock in a compwny becomes worth more.
As shareholder you are also entitled to dividens which are profits that is given to all shareholders.

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Oil stocks are up

>> No.21296675

>>21296604
Yes

>> No.21296708

>>21295879

Any input?

>> No.21296748

>>21296708
It’s only up 9% on the news? It’s up to you anon. I figured it would be up more premarket. I would probably buy if I had any money, but I’m stupid

>> No.21296766

>>21296589
Ok but what will happen if I had a stock and the value of it is decreasing to the point of 0 what will happen?

>>21296575
I'm actually the demiurge but don't tell anyone that.

>> No.21296833

>>21296708
Buy high sell low

>> No.21296882

>>21295879
why?

>> No.21296906

>>21296531
They go into debt because these basedboys will open margin accounts and take wild bets on leverage.
Thankfully all you have to do is delete the app and play some vidya for a couple of months until the whole thing blows over.

>> No.21296924

>>21295879
nevermind this>>21296882
>MRNA
showing an ok flag, will pop probably, buy now or wait or retest, if it doesnt come then you will be fomo for a higher price

>> No.21296934

>>21296906
>leverage
the t.v. show is ok i guess

>> No.21296964

>>21295929
>>21295972
America is facing its own Crisis of the Third Century. Where is our Aurelian?

>> No.21296979

>>21296531
>never traded a stock or option in his life
also, with questions like that i higly suggest you should stay away from stocks and keep on buying and shilling whatever token is the current flavor

>> No.21296993

>>21296531
Buy TSLA
Its Elon Musk backed shitcoin

>> No.21297018

>CCL
forming a perfect flag, breakout imminent, 25% short of float, squeeze will nuke this shit to 18-19

>> No.21297033

>>21297018
15.50-15.80 is a perfect entry

>> No.21297077

>>21297018
Current price?

>> No.21297082

>>21295481
Without a global system to seriously tackle environmental issues nothing will change. The countries that cheat will outcompete the ones that do the right thing, unless they're very small. And support for globalization is decreasing for now.

>> No.21297109

>>21297033
stop at 15.15-15.30, literally cannot go tits up

>> No.21297140

>>21297077
16.15 in pmkt, 15.82 yesterday close

>> No.21297161

>>21297018
they just announced that they will cancel many cruises? why should it nuke then?

>> No.21297250

>>21297161
To be honest - i dont know, i trade technicals only and when i see a chart like that, a short interest like that, a bottom like that, history shows an incoming pump. Not always there has to be a fundamental catalyst, but my bet vaccine news or wouldnt be suprised if buyout rumors start to surface.

>> No.21297287

>>21297250
Also looks like there's a rotation from tech into boomer, ccl is at its bottom which is the reason for the green days recently. It could be a dead cat bounce aswell, but nope i'm guessing a pump.

>> No.21297304

>>21297250
thanks for the explanation, im new to the stock market.

So to follow your advice, i should make a Limit order at 15.50 and hold till it hits 18-19 and then sell?

>> No.21297315

>>21297161
>robin nigger effect
>long hold
>vaccine hype
>stimulus hype

Choose whichever one you like. I bought at $18, shorting at $15 to average down during the opening sell off and hopefully sell by end of Day and repurchase lower.

I did this the first time around. Its great money as long as nothing stupid crashes it

>> No.21297330

>>21296979
Rude, I may be autistic but I do have over 200,000 is WoW gold.

>> No.21297349

>>21297287
can u explain what "boomer" linked to stock market means?
I guess its some sort of category for some stocks / companys.

>> No.21297385

>>21297304
If you sell do a trailing stop. Those make the most money and you won't chance only getting a partial filled order imo

>> No.21297389

WYY earnings are in 1 day. Anyone holding till after?

>> No.21297399

>>21295807
except the west is becoming tired of china's shit, people blame trump for being anti-china but they're just using him as a scapegoat in the media while actually going along with him anyways. E.g. europe agreeing not to sell shit to China (so none of ASML's semiconductor equipment going to SMIC)
there is a decreasing trend in companies wanting to do business in china because why would you do that shit if they might/will steal your IP anyways, never mind that labor costs aren't even cheap anymore.

CCP is slowly being isolated and that's why they're freaking about it with their desperate retarded shit like trying to invade taiwan. Doesn't help that everyone hates them because of corona too.

betting on geopolitics shit is such a huge gamble

>> No.21297428

>>21295095
I look forward to your morning klangs, it feels like I'm starting my red day with other anons.

>> No.21297456

American type options (as opposed to European type) can be executed at any point between now and expiration. How often does it happen that your shares get called early?

>> No.21297460

>>21297385
ok thanks, will look into it, lets hope this works out

>> No.21297488

>>21297304
>advice
More of a roadmap if someone decides to take this trade, but yeah, 15.50 and above is good, consider exit if it drops below 15.30-15.20.For 100 shares its 20-30 risk for 150-300 or more reward.

>> No.21297496

>>21297456
Most calls get exercised in the week. The premium is set partly by the intrinsic time value.

>> No.21297523

>>21297349
blue chips - strong balance sheets, mkt leaders, stock mkt laggards, aka WMT, JNJ, BA type of stocks

>> No.21297571

>>21297456
Depends entirely on the price movement. A deep OTM option on a low volatility stock may have a .0001% chance of being exercised early (or ever). Also depends on what the person holding it paid for it and what their goal is (hedging, speculation, or holding it as part of a multileg strategy)

>> No.21297585

>>21296924
It will probably go down within the first hour, it surged because of a contract with the government to make x vaccines. Every other time this happened the stock went down after a short time. Why should it be different this time?

>> No.21297649

>>21297585
dont know, not saying it will be, never traded mrna, dont know what it will do, maybe it went down other times because it was too extended and needed a pullback, good news followed by dumps are usually a product of big bags unloading on new liquidity

>> No.21297668

>>21297585
but still think it is looking bullish

>> No.21297700

I’m surprised silver isn’t down 10%. Still don’t think it’s gonna start pumping again tho

>> No.21297729

>>21295243
Only due to no volume

>> No.21297731

>>21297649
>>21297668
I think it will go down. It might go to the moon if their patent is successful but that's a huge if.

>> No.21297749

>>21296906
Dangerously based.

Someone report this chad to the SEC

>> No.21297768

Hmm baking

>> No.21297773
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21297773

Fuck I hope this fraud gets put in the S&P before it blows up

Can you imagine the normie tears when the entire market gets pulled down by the EV equivalent of WorldCom

>> No.21297793

>>21297773
FAGMAN + T 20% dip would literally bankrupt an entire generation of robinzoomers.

>> No.21297812

most of my stock are down 7% since biden announced that woman as his VP

>> No.21297822

NEW

>>21297797
>>21297797
>>21297797
>>21297797

>> No.21297860

>>21297773
>car sales
i think all of their mkts except china is down, wouldnt be suprised if in the next q their china numbers are 300% up kek

>> No.21298001

>>21291188
checked
>inb4 1488