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AI price prediction for where BTC is going.

Take your profits now. This is your only warning.

>> No.21258149
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>>21258136
Historic Accuracy

>> No.21258226

Which bot is it? Neurobot?

>> No.21258246

So far it was able to predict the March flash crash accurately down to the lowest point you could buy BTC for, Jul-August false bullrun.
Currently it thinks we're headed down.
If you're still bagholding after this, it's your own fault.
The time to buy crypto was in March and April.

>> No.21258262

>>21258136
Onky 45% off last november!
Lol. Just using the current price at t as prediction at t+1 would have been a better predictor. Non STEMers are not fit for trading.

>> No.21258270
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He's right, i ran some tests, did some analyzing and can conclude the same.

>> No.21258288

>>21258262
You're literally pointing to a single anomaly that lasted for a few days. That's what you call manipulation and not organic growth.

>> No.21258334

>>21258288
I see multiple points that are off by more than 20%. You know how hard the market will REK you with that accuracy?

>> No.21258370

>>21258334
Unless you're a day trader or have a leveraged position, why do these spikes bother you? The macro trend has always been on point.

>> No.21258405

>>21258136
I also see alot of points where the direction is wrong. So you would go long based on the prediction and would get raped or vice versa. Muh AI. Its probably just a simple timeseries algo.

>> No.21258432

>>21258405
Going long is for leveraged losers who gamble their wealth, this is designed for long term investors in mind.

>> No.21258433

>>21258370
Then give more specifics of the model and I will invalidate it for you. I have a PhD in Econometrics and have been a quantitative trader for over 5 years.
You cannot predict the fucking market looking at the price alone. Period.

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I will discuss the econometrics of this model if you share them with me. But just for context: these faggots also use TA. Meaning they draw memelines and write horoscopes. Kek. But AI sounds good dude!

>> No.21258498

>>21258433
It's this one https://tokenmetrics.com/

Article
https://help.tokenmetrics.com/en/articles/4147995-how-token-metrics-uses-ai

> we also provide 30-day price predictions through our Multi-layer Perceptron Model (MLP), also known as a feed-forward artificial neural network.

There are more articles though if you want to dig in.

>> No.21258506

>>21258149
96%? pleb
i have a 8 digit iq and my bot has 150% accuracy predictions, it says it's going to 100k eoy with a 1337% confidence

>> No.21258543

>>21258498
Thanks. 10 seconds in I am already convinced of how shitty their model is:

We simulate 100 different weighting schemes, back-test each one, then we pick the best performing model in terms of accuracy, to then create new generations.

So with each generation, our models increase in accuracy.

We repeat this process over 500 times, resulting in picking the best performing fundamental analysis grade model from 50,000 different models.


Any practioning quantitative trader knows THIS IS BLASPHEMY. This does not work. This is university professors looking at the market.

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>>21258136
Anyone remember this?

>> No.21258597
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>>21258136
Bears are fucking delusional now

>> No.21258648

>>21258543
Im actually laughing at how dumb they are. That backtesting approach shows 100% that they do not understand how markets work or what a good quantitative model is. Thanks for the laugh op.

>> No.21258656

>>21258597
Honestly IDK what will happen but I was able to time the market correctly back in March so I got that going for me.
Even if there is some truth to it, I took profits on fundamentally weak projects.
Still holding BTC/ETH/DAI (30/30/40) %

>> No.21258729

>>21258656
Thats fine. Just dont go around "warning" people with such a shitty model. Who are you to warn people? The model is way worse than S2F by planB which is also a shitty model.

>> No.21258817

>>21258587
this scares me

>> No.21258844

>>21258543
Is this called "overfitting" or is that the incorrect term for their error?

>> No.21258926

>>21258246
fuck me. i have money in april... but didn't buy. Now my life goes downward without money. i don't know what to do .

>> No.21258934

>>21258587
>11k stablecoin

Based

>> No.21259152

>>21258648
Can you give some analysis on the state of crypto market? Are you invested?

I have an undergrad level knowledge of econometrics.

>> No.21259233

>>21258136
FML. With the corona still up i thought another dip was coming. Fuuuuuuuuck! 3 years later and missed the train again.

>> No.21259333
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21259333

There will be no details shared but I do have a method for predicting movements in bitcoin (larger movements, not day to day - that is possible but it takes too long). It is a method I have been using for about one year and it has successfully modeled the market in that time. It was applied retroactively and mapped correctly to each prior year and the key trends.

You have no reason to believe me but I'm not here for attention and won't reply to this thread. What you need to know is that BTC will continue to crab in the $10k-$14k range from now until around Mid-November/Thanksgiving. It will not go lower than $8500 and if it does spike that low it will recover very quickly - that spike would be a short-term anomaly. Around mid/late November it will start to climb and will end the year around $15-$18k. These numbers are rough for reasons you'll understand in a moment. The important detail is that it will end up 2x on the year.

Beginning immediately after the New Year, Bitcoin will take on new life. it will climb around 12.5x during the year 2021, peaking in December. The higher it closes 2020, the higher the peak will be EOY 2021. Sell around Christmas or in the days following.

Bitcoin will proceed to dismantle its new ATH beginning after New Year's 2022 and will decline and stagnate for all of 2022 and 2023, very similar to 2018/2019.

You are welcome.

>> No.21259383

>>21258729
Easier to criticize, let's see your model.

>> No.21259394
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>>21259333
>for reasons youll begin to understand in a moment

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>>21258136
>BTC going to shit
ok lmao
>ETH, LINK and ADA doing the same shit
I doubt it 500%
>Parity at $1000 after crash with ETH shitting on BTC 2 months after
It will happen

>> No.21259539

>>21258136
Where's the rest of this chart? I don't wanna see just August. We are almost half way through it.

>> No.21259543

>>21258648
Please accept me as your student, sensei. I have nothing but a degree in statistics. I wanna build a custom quantitative indicator. Please let me know where to start.

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21259646

I know Chainlink is amongst the more popular coins here.
So here is the chart for it. Looking good.
IDK how you can be more accurate than this.

>> No.21259715

>>21258246
Is this back testing or real?

>> No.21259748

>>21259539
It only gives price prediction for 30 days in the future, anything more than that is a literal crapshoot.

>> No.21260020

>>21259152

Im allin on LINK, but I realize it can go to shit anytime. Still I hope to see 50 or 100 usd per link. I do not daytrade ever.


>>21259383

I dont have a model. In my work I do arbitrage and options market making. We do not predict prices,because that is impossible (apart from on a subscale second, with orderbook analysis).

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>>21258136
great thread, fuck all of those haters,

>> No.21260217

>>21258136
Can you post DMG or Aleph if they have them?

>> No.21260255

Where eth? I don't even own any btc

>> No.21260269

>>21260020
how do you explain the seeming accuracy of the model?
insider manipulation?

>> No.21260347

>>21258506

your bot take into account covid wave 2?

>> No.21260389

So can I transfer into a stable coin like USDC or DAI to hold for the dip? I don't want to cash out and pay tax.

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>>21258136
WHat? You mean it's going to have a 10% retrace after more than doubling over the last months? OH NOOOOOO SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL!!!

fuck off you pussyass faggot ass little crybaby put your money on a savings account at your local jew bank and enjoy your safe 0.01% interest little weak handed bitch

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>>21260347
>coronahoax wave 2

>> No.21260457

>>21260347
it even took into account biden winning the election and a civil war starting because of widespread election fraud

>> No.21260497

>>21260347
Marketmakers usually use news as a ruse to manipulate markets.
There were obvious tells in March even using traditional TA and price action. You didn’t need onchain quant analysis to see what was coming.

>> No.21260532

>>21259646
Thanks for sharing anon, please drop some of these when the September predictions are up. Nothing is 100% but it seems interesting

>> No.21260613

>>21259333
solid trips too late at night for me to do math what is your estimated ATH for the end of 2021?

>> No.21260622

>>21258136
ETH 500-600$

HERE

WE

GO!!!

>> No.21260652

>>21259394
miss this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe

>> No.21260670

>>21260217
Don’t think those two coins have enough data for a proper price prediction.
>>21260255
Eth future prediction shows consolidation the entire next month at ($380-$410) levels

>> No.21260678

>>21258246
>So far it was able to predict the March flash crash accurately down to the lowest point you could buy BTC for, Jul-August false bullrun
Wow this predicted the coronavirus? Where can I find this ai?

>> No.21260718

I'll just leave this here
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200811005331/en/MicroStrategy-Adopts-Bitcoin-Primary-Treasury-Reserve-Asset

>> No.21260730

>>21260347
Kek, I already forgot about that nothingburger virus. The psyop is crumbling no matter how much they'll push the "muh 2nd wave" and mask shit.

>> No.21260736

>>21258246
Is xrp going down?

>> No.21260769
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>>21260020
I've been playing around with binary classification models on BTC for a while now, and you are wrong, it is possible to predict prices...with 55-62% accuracy. I ran some quick tests on this knowledge(by running a trading bot on past data, with a simple strategy, if price is predicted to go up, buy(if you have money), and if the price is predicted to go down(sell if you have BTC). This strategy could not beat bullruns of BTC in the short term(+25% trading bot, +30% BTC price change) but trials on yearly BTC data gave me +50% returns vs +25% on BTC price changes.

If anyone wants to hear more I am willing to share details of what I did, but right now I'm pretty much convinced that even with >50% accuracy predictions of price movement, you can't make money(unless I am a brainlet)

>> No.21260789

Maybe now I can finally afford the .1btc bond paxful requires

>> No.21260908

>>21260730
20 million cases globally, many survivors have long-term complications and lung damage etc.

"Nothingburger virus", holy fuck you americans are so fucking retarded

>> No.21260920

>>21260678
Tokenmetrics, but I wouldn't recommend buying it now. All major coins seems to be headed towards 10-20% correction.
Except these four amongst the top ones:
Balancer, Kava, Chainlink and IOTA

>> No.21261035

>>21258136
Kek, that prediction is already wrong, we were at 12k a few days ago, and the 1hr chart is bullish af.

>> No.21261058

>>21260736
Yup, same trajectory as BTC, but not too deep only around $0.27

>>21260920
Note, I think Kava is bad fundamentally and IOTA is a bit better but I am not sure people want to give it a second chance.
I only own chainlink from those four and even then I sold like 60% already after buying it in March-April

>> No.21261182

AAAAAAAAA

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>>21259333
checked cheers chap

>> No.21261217

>>21258136
Develop a past trading strategy on the data to see what kind of gains this gets you

>> No.21261218

>>21259646
the crabteau at the end is pure FUD

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>>21261035
It's a macro trend predictor, how long did that $12k+ price last? A couple of hours?

>> No.21261484

>>21258136
Thank you, I sold, will get back in later

>> No.21261546

>>21260736
you could ask this in almost any scenario/situation/chart and the answer would be yes

>> No.21261567

>>21258136
yay cheapies

>> No.21261606

>>21258498
I also buy MLP models but my mom calls them dolls.

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21261947

>>21259394
> I believe in twatter fags

>> No.21262038

>>21260908
swine flu has 1 billion cases but nobody gave a fuck

>> No.21262088

>>21259333
Capped, if your right anon will send sharpie in pooper pic

>> No.21262091

>>21259333
checked, LINK $20 minimum EOY

>> No.21262129

>>21260908
Ken, not even 0.5% of the population. Complications maybe if you were already not living healthy and bought into fruits and vegetables lie. You are just pussy

>> No.21262143

>>21258246
look at the chart it lags like a motherfucker and youre an idiot

>> No.21262188

>>21260497
post shorts or gtfo

>> No.21262194

>>21258587
story behind this? When was it created?

>> No.21262243

>>21259333
long time astrologer here. can confirm that the largest transfer of wealth will be moved into crypto around eoy 2021/2022. Even Feb 2021 will be a MASSIVE influx of common-wealth. Be ready.

>> No.21262253

>>21259333
>4 year cycle meme
okay man

>> No.21262258

>>21259646
this is literally the dumbest shit i have ever fucking seen

>> No.21262342

Very fundamental mistakes on those models. It’s babby’s first time-series prediction oopsie, stuff you learn within the first two weeks in a statistics class.
If you look closely, you will see that the reason the model seems so accurate is because it just takes yesterday’s price as the main driver - looks good in a chart, low % error, but if you try to trade on it you will bleed money.
Search up “time-series stationarity” and “overfitting” for more.

>> No.21262343

>>21261947
hes been right for 2 years and running

>> No.21262373

>>21262143
It's not for timing the market and never claimed so.

>> No.21262404

>>21259333
>trips
>but red id
what is kek trying to tell us about this post?

>> No.21262448

>>21258433
I know girls with PhD's in chemistry that can't show me the chiral centers to methamphetamine.

>> No.21262468

>>21259646
>AI prediction is perfectly in line with my TA
Feels fucking good to know that we're all gonna make it

>> No.21262481

>>21258136
the price moves and then the prediction tries to catch up with it. you know what also does this? a fucking moving average you SICK FUCK.

>> No.21262505

>feed AI previous market data
>"predicts" previous market
Woooooow so AMAZING! I love science!

>> No.21262876

Just let us GREED

>> No.21262878

>>21258136
I work in AI.
This is heavily tampered with to give the illusion of accurate predictions.

>> No.21262910

>>21260769
Maybe I'm the brainlet, but wouldn't even a 51% prediction accuracy basically be an unlimited money printer, given enough time?

>> No.21262931

>>21262878
Idk the August climb was predicted 30 days in advance so I was mentally ready for it and took profits accordingly.

>> No.21263279

>>21262910
Thats what I thought too, but sometimes the correct predictions you make hour-by-hour are small jumps in price, vs incorrect predictions which might be larger jumps(I would call these anomalies, like pumps/dumps or whale movement)

>> No.21263332

>>21262878
ah yes i forgot all AI is the same
thanks for reminding me

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>>21260908
>20 million cases globally, many survivors have long-term complications and lung damage etc.
>"Nothingburger virus", holy fuck you americans are so fucking retarded
Exactly. Everyone around me is getting the coronavirus and are super duper sick or dead. This is super duper cereal and is not blown out of proportion because of politics!

>> No.21263423

>>21262878
this. clearly backtested.

>> No.21263492

>>21263423
ai should have as much merit as ta. Yet humans thought is chaotic and is dependent on compounding variables.

>> No.21263598

>>21258136
Can you plot XRP?

>> No.21263629

>>21263598
It's same as BTC, I mentioned it above already. dip upto $0.27

>> No.21263660

BTC goes down, ETH and DeFi shit goes through the roof. Bubble pops aroudn elections/Q1 2021 and then BTC rages back. ez pz. BTC is kind of shit anyway

>> No.21263789

>>21260908
Excuse me! *points at you*
Its a hoax virus and you're Fake News spreading fear.

>> No.21263853

>>21263789
Based and Trump pilled. Liberals are faggot niggers poos and should return to plebbit

>> No.21263878

>>21258136
show us the whole thing nigger or fud

>> No.21263896

>>21258433
>>21258479

how do you trade then? what do you base your trades on if price action and memelines are a waste of time? curious to know.

>> No.21263897

>>21260769
Also a correction to this, *Ive been unable to make more money than the coin's natural price movement upwards

>> No.21263961

>>21258136
>$10k is the new floor
>sell now
What?

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>>21258136
>AI

Lmao, just a bunch of computer code written by someone who wants to manipulate the markets.

If this tech existed I'm sure you wouldn't have your hands on it lol. AI

>> No.21264063

If you are so sure about your shitty predictions, then just short 100x and stfu

>> No.21264125

>>21258149
>rmse 500
>96% accurate guys I swear
Lol this website is a sham

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I tried to warn you autists but you wouldn't listen. The fun part is when I will be buying your cheap ass coins.

>> No.21264254

>>21264063
Leverage trading is the worst thing you can do considering how much institutional manipulation takes place.

>> No.21264295

Thank you for a great meme yet again.
See you at 14k in a months.

>> No.21264349

>>21258136
lagging indicator didn’t predict shit

>> No.21264653

>>21260769
>it is possible to predict prices...with 55-62%
So, a coin toss?

>> No.21264884

>>21258136
The difference is the past year has been basically just bots & traders trading the market

Now we've broken out of bot range (year long 10.5k resistance) & a retail mania is forming. No longer predictable as it has been.

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>>21259333
Checked

>> No.21265659

>>21258270
Craig Wright is not satoshi get over it faggot

>> No.21265839

>>21260347
There was a wave #1?

>> No.21266022

>>21259333

BTC 100k by 1/1/2018.

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST, FOLKS

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>>21258433
>macro trend
>give me specifics
what are you on about?

>> No.21266545

>>21265659
You notice how me and OP was right? Literally dying right now

>> No.21266728

a dip in BTC is heaven sent for alts to prosper after the dip. Here we go 10x uniswap shitcoins left and right.

>> No.21266996

>>21260908
Hahahahaha how is it possible you even function on a day to day basis

>> No.21267020

>>21264653
That is pretty much what I was able to figure out. Determining the price of a coin in the future by only using OHLCV data(beyond 55% accuracy) is not possible.

Also 55% is better than a coin toss and I'm still trying to figure out if it would be possible to profit off of those odds.

>> No.21267258

Many news articles are bullish rn though.

>> No.21267848

>>21262194
looks like some sort of ARMA