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take it from me, graphic designer, working for the past 4 years. Even though my job is considered easy, and i work from home, IF THERE IS A WAY for you to cheat and get even 600$ a month without working DO IT.
If there is a way to abuse welfare as long as you can, or play sick, DO IT.

wagecucking is not just a meme, its actually all true.
there is no "virtue in being a working bee"

>> No.21257725

>>21257697
thaank you for this advice anon

>> No.21257755

>>21257697
The fuck can 600 pm get you?
Wouldn't even pay my mortgage

>> No.21257757

Wow thank you based 4 year graphic designer

>> No.21257766
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>>21257697
>cubicles
my company upgrades our building, from cubicles to the open office meme. i hate it so fucking much.

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like yes, if you CANT get neetbux, you NEED to work.
But if you can manage it, try to work only 8 months in a year, and the rest abuse welfare as much as possible.
Even if you are a dad with a wife, you should still save money and enjoy some free months between jobs.
Take the maximum amount of vacation days.

You should be a drain on the system as much as possible.

For me as a graphic designer, its more productive to play video games for 8 hours a day than to wagecuck meaningless banners. The only benefit is that i get paid a good salary for it.
My stress levels, my nervous system is RUINED.
90% of the time after work i have NO WILLPOWER LEFT to do anything. I cant even CLEAN MY ROOM let alone COOK FOR MY SELF.

>> No.21257825

>>21257755
well you have a mortgage now, you....cant be a neet.
You can only try to enjoy 3-4 months in between jobs on nemployment with some colllected money.

thats what im saying.
collect your money while working....and use them to have more time between jobs.

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tfw i got myself into a 1 day a week consulting arrangement that covers my expenses.

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>>21257873
pretty much a solid choice.

I would rather make 60% of the salary but work only 3 days a week.

>> No.21257983

>>21257825
better advice is... get a mortgage as early as you can, over pay as much as you can. This way you pay off the capital as quickly as possible and reduce the total interest payed.
10 years later you own a house which is either passive income in rent or a free place to live that isn't your parents fuck dungeon.
During this time make crypto plays.
This is my plan and im near the end of it now.
I managed to buy 6 motorbikes, fuck loads of holliday and a wedding along the way.
About to retire at 35, comfy

>> No.21258009

>>21257983
just remember, divorce can devastate you.
1) dont cheat
2) if she cheats on you, she will divorce and ass rape you (if you dont kill her in minecraft)

>> No.21258062

>>21258009
based

>> No.21258129

>>21257892
i'm a developer. get only 30k but work effectively 2h a week. management is retarded. you should use the time to do something productive, though. learn investing or developing more skill so that you are always save on job market or read a book. something that has at least some potential of earning more money in the long run. doing nothing and stagnating feels like shit, did it in uni for about 2 years

>> No.21258148

>>21257697
You don't have to go full neet. I've been a graphic designer for 10 years, I work from home, make £50k a year and work maybe, MAYBE, 2hrs a week.

The dream is real.

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>>21258062
im speaking the truth.
the woman that loved you for 10 years can suddenly decide she is not happy now and cheat on you, then proceed to ass rape your house, car, money, all assets, just because you screamed at her and "youre mean now!"

If you don't.....have a surprise plan and just let her do it..she will clean you until you are NOTHING.
you will have to wage cuck to pay for her sex with chad.

>> No.21258281

I quit my job late 2019 and I can never go back. Granted I have enough capital to sustain myself and now trading and investing is my "job", but lads, here is the real fucking redpill:

If you are like me, and you likely are since we frequent the same boards, you cannot live as an authentic version of yourself whilst simultaneously being a wageslave. I repeat, you cannot live as an authentic version of yourself. Now, many turbonormies or even autists are content in their job because to them, their job IS the authentic version of themselves, however, if you feel deep in your soul you are not meant to be a wagie then you will never be happy BEING a wagie. I managed to last 8 years and somehow got promoted multiple times, but every single day dragging myself to offices and meetings I knew this wasn't me, this wasn't what I was destined to do or be. When you reach the intersection of mid management and senior management you have a choice to make: You either swallow the bluepill and LARP as a turbonormie, or you quit and forge your own path. I chose the latter and the day I left in November 2019 it felt like I had literally been reborn aged 29.

>> No.21258454

>>21258281
very true. even though i work mostly from home and i like writing code. still, having to do what others say/not being able to not take a call/not being able to fuck off to a different country/city feels like a cage. hope to gain my liberty in this bull cycle

>> No.21258488

>>21257697
tell me what qualifications i need to be a graphic desinger and work from home please

>> No.21258701
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Has anyone noticed a shift and the attitude towards working from the younger generations? I see more and more zoomers / young millenials take pride in living at home, working as little as possible to get by, or pining for meme jobs like twitch streamer or reaction channel, instead of the more traditionally strenuous career paths.

>> No.21258737

I recently quit my job of 3 years as a Jr business analyst for a company. Worked as a tech support for the majority of it servicing 80+ employees with my ex boss 75% of the time not being on site and me being the only person in the whole department you understand how stupid stressful it became. Seeing my boss make 120k a year comfortably by just pointing a finger pissed me off. So now I'm behind bills and I got an interview today for another job as a part time technician.

Crypto will save us. It will save all of us from the slavery that is corporate America.

I might not have the bags you guys have but at least I can say I have 100% of my net worth in cryptocurrency. I'll hold as long as I can boys.

>> No.21258846

>>21258488
not a designer but something like this
>make a portfolio and a website
>get freelancing gigs
>apply for full time position with track record and portfolio
>neet while being paid

>> No.21259032

>>21258701
of course, because the fraud cant get any more obvious. im not gonna waste my time sitting 8 hours in front of a screen while they print tons of money somewhere else.
i got fired last week, because denied working fulltime while our office applied for shorttimework bux from the gov. i literally signed a paper which stated that i work 20hrs a week max. i hope they all burn, and i hope all normies fucking kill themselves because they will understand soon enough

>> No.21259035

>>21258701
they are lazy, entitled kids who think they can be a youtuber and make $$$. They dont realize that making videos, making what your patreons want and fighting youtube becomes a death trap. Becomes worse than a normal job.

But they.....are right. whats the point working a stressful backbreaking job where you are crying yourself to sleep? Just because you can pay off a new BMW?

If you have some old house or place without rent, and a car that works...why wage cuck so much?
you are better off with a light job where you work 7 months in a year.
Why would you work 4 more months in a year just so you can finance a newer BMW and an iphone?

there aint ANY FUCKING POINT. you better work on your garden and plant some food.

Right now they only got you by the balls because you have to pay RENT to exist.
Other then that..if you have a place without rent, and a cheap car...you only need FOOD to exist. food that you can plant.

>> No.21259114

>>21259032
like I said, when they print money all the time and devalue the money you hold, its an endless wagecuck trap.
You dont need to finance a new merc and an iphone.

And they cant devalue food if you can and jar and save seeds.
They can ONLY devalue your money.

You are better off with more free time and not some full year wagecuck prison.
i dont have time after work to even do chores dude.

>> No.21259127

>>21258701
no, but if thats a thing its because compensation is fucking terrible now. double the workforce since women left the home, add in a bunch of immigrants every year.... whats the point.

>> No.21259159

>>21258281
> trading and investing is my "job"
if you're an american how do you afford health insurance? i looked on my state health exchanges and it was pure fucking rape.

>> No.21259172

>>21259114

As a wagie you are selling a finite resource - your time, for a shitcoin with no hardcap that can be created from nothing at will. Yes you can exchange your shitcoin for hard assets but the vast majority of wagies DONT do that.

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>>21258281
Thanks.

>> No.21259400

>>21259285
too much feels.
when i graduated in 2008 i thought the world was my oyster!
and immediately the "financial crysis" came.
no more of the "just walk in and hand your resume and shake the hand"
i tried that lmao.
I worked here and there for a couple of months.
if i didnt got a chance by a jewish company before a couple of years i would have killed my self.

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>>21259400

>"Millenials are so entitled and lazy! When I was their age I already had a house, kids, boat!"
>millenials enter workforce during global financial meltdown
>millenials reach typical Western child bearing age during second global financial meltdown
>boomers still call us useless and entitled

When will it end?

>> No.21259728

>>21259549
We’ll long for the days of the boomer when Gen X is in charge. Top tip - It’s already happening.

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>>21259549
my uncles were the same. gen x fags who owned a tire shop and called my dad "wagecuck", but at the same time hassled me for not getting a job and being a spoiled millenial.

>"if you are not working a backbreaking manual job you are not a real man"
>"if you dont hate your job you are not a man"
>"if you dont wake up at 6am you are not a man"

Ok FAGGOT i wake up at 5AM to drive to the capital to work 3 days a week and i got money to buy a house, now i dig with a shovel in my own yard, am i a real man yet?

not surprisingly when mom died, he wanted us to write mom/uncles house to only him, scared that i would "take it away" or want money from him.

he has diabetus now, cant see and hopefully died.

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>>21259549
boomers and gen x will always hassle you, in their eyes you have to work in manual labour 6 days a week, wake up at 4AM, hate your job, and then on sunday clean your room, wash your penis and wash the dishes.

Guess what, i didnt clean my room, because i was busy taking care of my sick mother, or maybe i was tired from working in the yard.
the room isnt going to fall apart if its not cleaned for 3 days.

>> No.21260165

>>21259035
>entitled
You're using that word to mean the opposite of what it really means.

>> No.21260238

>>21258701
Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.

I have very little trust in the zoomer generation and their capacity for dealing with all the shit that we will face in the next decade.

>> No.21260381

>>21259159
Dont claim all taxes and you can get Medicaid for free. I only claim about $3k per year even though actual profits from all income streams are in the 6 figures and I'm eligible for free healthcare. Its not the best, but I'm still able to at least see a white doctor and my prescriptions only cost $1.

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>>21260165
no i do mean it.
- on one hand i get that they dont want to wagecuck like us and want to be a youtuber, and have an easy office/work from home job. Its a thing that you should want.
- but on the other hand...its a pipe dream. Being a successful you-tuber is very hit and miss. If you make some money now it will be gone in 3-4 years and you will have a huge gap on your resume. Especially if you never start working and just waste from 20 to 25 on "youtube" you have destroyed your life. I guess you can still become some manual labour or something.

Its very hard to find a good job thats easy, where you work from home, where you feel food. Its very hard to make it as a youtuber, and it doesnt last usually. often becomes worse than a real job.

Look at the /biz/ kids here. They all want to make easy money "trading" and dumping on others. They want the cool job, the car, the women and they are not prepared to jump all the hoops to get it. they are ENTITLED.

you dont get the cool job and the benefits without serious lucks and work/illegal strings.
you dont get to be a youtuber forever.

>> No.21260494

>the based covid has everyone working from home
>literally sleep half my shift
>work less than ever
>nobody says shit and comfy as ever

never going back to the office

>> No.21260525

>>21260165
you have 24y millenaisl that managed to get their first job after college, letssay 50k, and they are IMMEDIETLY looking to get a 40,000$ loan to buy a 2014 BMW.
Like you dont even know if you will hold this job in 2 months, its your FIRST JOB.
and you immedietly want the 2014 BMW and you want the 200,000$ house, you want everything.

and it doesnt work that way.
Tomorrow the BMW breaks down from a plastic hose, you cant even sell it and you still owe the bank 50,000$ and now you are fired...what now retard?

>> No.21260633

>>21258281
I'm feeling this hard and I haven't even been slaving for a year... I need to escape from this plantation

>> No.21260677

>>21260494
imfeeling you.
im never going back to the office either.

>> No.21260824

>28
>finishing PhD
>$200k in link and enough savings to last two years as a NEET

Should I even bother trying to start a career?

>> No.21260863

>>21260824
depends, do you pay rent?

>> No.21260952

>>21260863
Yes, are you going to suggest I should buy a house instead, paying a mortgage instead of rent? In that case I do have about £16k in a help to buy ISA as well.

>> No.21261079

>>21260952
i dont know, but 2000$ a month in rent is really going to evaporate your 200k savings.
You might be better off trying to open a small store or a fast food place, even a fucking food cart, coffee machine instead of "retiring"

>> No.21261180

>>21260824
>career
yes of course goy

>> No.21261211

>>21261079
Oh my rent is nowhere near that high. It's only £360 a month, so overall I spend about £11k a year. My plan when Link really kicks off and staking becomes a viable source of income is to buy a house with some land and try to be self-sufficient.

>lives in the middle of nowhere in Wales

>> No.21261265

>>21261211
Your best bet is
a) use your PHD to get a high paying job for 3-4 years and then "retire"
b) open a small business with your money, like a tiny store/cafe wahtever is needed in your town.

>> No.21261443

>>21261265
Option a is what I've been thinking is most likely, assuming link's going to take a few years to reach the point where I could live off of staking gains. Unfortunately my town has been fucked over by the lockdown, stores, cafes, restaurants and bars are closing all around, so option b is not a great bet.

>> No.21261461

>>21258164
i show mine my crypto and whisper into her ear "you better wise up because your lawyer will never find this"

>> No.21261467

>>21257697
If you got a skill at all try self-employment. I think half of the wagecuck meme comes from the boss and the co-workers all being pains in the asses

>> No.21261636

>>21261467
self employment is even worse.half the clients are horrible and entittled shitheads that dont know waht they want.
>>21261461
you say even 1 word in front of her, with your big ego, her lawyer is going to use it to take EVERYTHING fromyou.

play dumb.

>> No.21261735

>>21261636
im not an american citizen and monero exists. i welcome them to try

>> No.21261752

>>21261636
hahah yeah some truth in that I have a couple of clients that Ive had to "fire" because the money they were paying me wasnt worth the time I had to dedicate to them.

>> No.21261829

>>21261752
of course there is.
its usually better to wagecuck with nice people and an easy job, something thats not too boring, and not too much work and no hassling if you look at your phone and stuff.

>>21261735
youre not getting the point.
why say something you can not say?
its a creature that would do anything to bleed you dry and destroy you.

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>>21261636
>clients are worse than bosses
Exactly. Think of how shitty your boss treats you, and then realize that you aren't getting paid with HIS money. Until you have completely passive income, you are still someone's bitch. And if you sign up to be a husband/father, you are going to be your wife's bitch on top of that. She may seem nice, but once that ring is on and the kids are popped out, she knows she has you by the balls and that affects her behavior. Power corrupts and once she realizes that you have to do everything she says or she can ruin your entire life, it will only get worse. Skip the cuckdom. Be single, get passive income (NEETbux or otherwise).

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>>21258701
Because younger people can see the forest for the trees, and realize that wages have stagnated despite productivity increases. The 40 hour work week is a deprecated model for most jobs. People see their fucking bosses more than their own kids. How is that good? How is that healthy?
But don't you DARE bite the hand that feeds you. Don't mention it to your boss, your co-workers, etc. They will jettison you at the drop of a hat.

>> No.21262756

Hey OP how can I land a job as graphic designer ?
do you use fiver?

>> No.21262839

>>21262756
help

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>tfw even in Engineering I'm so autistic that I can't connect with anyone
Quitting soon probably or will get fired because I don't get along with people.

>> No.21263123

>>21257766
My company did the same. We were suppose to move to a new office with this new design to be more "collaborative" and "inclusive" but it's really just a way for them to save money. Our HQ in France is considering making WFH a permanent thing now though.

>> No.21263174

>>21257766
I genuinely miss cubicles, fuck open offices

>> No.21263260

the goal is financial freedom

>> No.21263612

>>21260494
I wonder if management realizes this and will implement some kind of clocking system. You know there are some anal managers that want you to work non-stop no matter if you got stuff to do or not.

>> No.21263633

>>21257766
>>21263123
This happened to me a few years ago.
The irony is that we are not allowed to be inside our open office due to social distancing reducing greatly the amount of desks that can be used simultaneously.

I am unsure if I should quit now however.
It's so comfy to work only a few hours a week from home and to skip almost every meeting.
I don't have to pretend to work in the office anymore, or find something to do to pass time.

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Ok bro, but how do you actually MAKE money outside of your wellfare ?
I have a steady job
>1900€ a month + company car
>500€ rent
>12 month left of 220€ of motorcycle loan
>100€ insurance
All in all I can save around 500€ every month while still living really comfortably.
But that's not enough, I can't buy a house, I can't travel to a faraway country during my vacation ...
Aside from investing, how do I make money part time at home or during my office hours ?

>> No.21264134

>>21258701
corporates are even more scam and we're lazy

>> No.21264264

>>21263924
invest, become a youtuber or steal
>>21262756
fiver is for kids. what are you gonna do? earn 5$?

you make a portfolio from doing example designsand then you hope someone hires you for the first time.
its an ok job, annoyng office job like the rest

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>>21258281
A lot of us needed to see read that, thanks lad.

>> No.21265491

>>21263924
>close to minimum wage
>company car
Belgian spotted

>> No.21265856

>>21265491
Close.
It's like Belgium but we have two stars on our football jersey.