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21123739 No.21123739 [Reply] [Original]

I'm going to literally spoonfeed the last of you dumb fucks who don't understand XSN yet

i think i should explain to you how important the stakenet DEX is
the biggest problem in crypto right now is the fact that all exchanges are KYC (know your customer) and this defies the original principals of bitcoin's cypherpunk-esque whitepaper
it means all bitcoin and other cryptos are immediately traceable to someones real life ID and other info
with the stakenet DEX these problems are all solved, because it is anonymous and instant
stakenet never holds the coins themselves, the decentralised network does
anyone can trade any amount of any available crypto on the network
the two biggest integrations (which are ALREADY working) are the bitcoin lightning network and ethereum ERC20 tokens
bitcoin lightning network is just like a bitcoin transaction, except not all broadcastable transactions *are* broadcasted
it means instant and low fee transactions, because they are locally verified
a bitcoin on layer 1 is the exact same as layer 2 which means no weird workarounds it just simply works
ethereum ERC20 tokens (example: chainlink) make up the vast majority of current altcoins which people invest in, and are available on the network
ethereum itself is still being added because it does not comply to it's own ERC20 token standard (with ethereum v2 it should)
the developers are also implomenting a system where you can stake a masternode offline (hardware wallet) and store ANY btc or ERC20 token also on that wallet
this is immense because there are only two currently active hardware wallet companies and one of them has already been proven to be compromised and leaked private keys and people home address'
the stakenet DEX will essentially re-anonymise crypto currency, it's MCAP is currently incredibly low compared to what it will be once the DEX releases (this month) so it is an extremely wise investment

>> No.21123818

Scam. Also your formatting sucks.

>> No.21123839
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Everyone has already bought in, or is buying as we speak, so it's time we began the FUD. Massive orchestrated FUD campaigns across all of /biz/, reddit, and twitter, plus any other social media where they talk about crypto. We need to scare everyone far far away from XSN and from every owning a MN. XSN is /biz/'s coin and Leddit will get priced out. The problem, however? Nobody has figured out how to convincingly FUD stakenet. You just fucking can't. Read about it for 10 minutes and all of a sudden you're dropping your entire networth onto it. So we need to figure out some serious, heavy duty FUD to keep this scary as fuck to anyone who isn't in the know. Just like LINK was. Having a bunch of occultist schizo's would probably help, real or not. I know all you autiste and NEETs are ready to create waves and waves of FUD. I believe in you /biz/, I truly do.

>> No.21123980

>>21123818
>>21123839
Fuck your fud. I can't buy anymore so just let it pump already

>> No.21124027

>>21123980
Reddit must be scared away and priced out at all costs. Once it moons redditors will never have sub $1, sub $10, sub $100 stakies and /biz/ will win.

>> No.21124101

>>21123839
just call it a ponzi scheme
will work on everyone that doesn't look deeper into the tech

>> No.21124117

>>21123739
been thinking on buying big on this but edcon buidl will pump hard idk what to go in on big. should I just throw 1k at this? only make 3k a month hope i got a little time anons just another friday pls

>> No.21124121

>>21123739
DR;NB

>> No.21124263
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This is now a shill thread

>> No.21124324

>>21124263
its borderline impossible not to shill it... just by describing it's basic function it inherently shills itself

>> No.21124327

>>21123739
nash exchange will do the same thing, except it's reddit friendly, compliant and non-inflationary.

>> No.21124355

>>21124327
Yeah? And they're gonna release this month?

>> No.21124452

LINK IS MOONING, XSN IS MOONING TOO.

Who here XSN/LINK/LINKPOOL squad?

>> No.21124686
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>yfw you realise stakenet DEX is going to be THE cryptocurrency exchange after Raiden integration

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>>21124327
Nas exchange is operating under the guise of decentralization, when in reality they get cucked by the KYC laws

>> No.21124836

>>21124768
The screenshot contents btw

From Nash Exchange:

"The Company reserves the right at its sole discretion to suspend your access to the
19 Furthermore, the Company reserves the right at its sole discretion to block withdrawals of
User funds from the trading part of their Wallet to their account wallet for periods of up to
24 hours. The User understands and agrees that in the event of an aforesaid blockage
any transfer of User funds from their trading wallet to their account wallet is unfeasible.
The Company determines at its sole discretion which reasons are to be deemed valid for
such a blockage of User funds. Nevertheless, despite a blockage of User funds, the
Company has no access to any User’s Wallet or the Crypto Assets contained therein nor
any control over its use.
VII. The Nash Exchange
20 The Nash Exchange consists of four major components (collectively referred to hereinaf�ter as the “Software”): the matching engine, which takes orders from users and matches
them with one another; a state-signing protocol that governs off-chain interactions be�Services or your Accounts temporarily or permanently. This account-blocking or
-suspension may be a consequence of, among other things, inconsistent information re�garding the identity of a User, a pending compliance or security review, the request of a
third party or the request and/or order of an authority, governmental body, regulator, legal
entity, law-enforcement agency, etc. The User understands and agrees that they may not
be able to access funds easily if their Account is suspended. The Company determines at
its sole discretion which reasons are to be deemed valid for the suspension of an Account
or access to the Services. The Company will not be liable for any losses suffered as a
result of any suspension or termination of access to the Service..."

>> No.21124894

>>21124836
Truly the cuck exchange to outcuck them all.

>> No.21124958

Wherre the fuck do I even buy this seems like it's only on fucking shady shitty exchanges not worth the hassle

>> No.21124974
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>>21124894
Oh I didn't realize I could just check the main site for evidence of kyc


So you need kyc on Nash exchange if you trade more than 1000$ a day

Also you need KYC if you stake NEX

Stakenet definitely doesn't need kyc for staking lol.

Anyways I will try Nash just to get a feel for the experience and to do my due diligence when comparing to Stakenet. But I don't think it can compare...

>> No.21125027

>>21124958
Livecoin.net


The worst thing that happened to me is my deposit once took like 30 mins.

I deposit Ethereum, then sell for BTC on livecoin, and then buy XSN using xsn/BTC pair because it's better volume wise.

Anyways you just withdraw it afterwards to core wallet, and don't keep it on the exchange. It's not shady but it doesn't have a large enough reputation.

>> No.21125073

>>21124974
Well, the point about stakenet dex not requiring KYC is true in theory, but you are likely to still need kyc when going over the fiat -> crypto bridge. Unless you can find a way to buy crypto from exchanges/traders who don't comply with that. Afterwards it is of course easy to send your funds to the dex and kiss the kyc cucks goodbye, until you need to cash out into fiat again, that is.

>> No.21125139

Just bought a masternode...

>> No.21125213

>>21125139
congrats anon. now sprinkle in some iron hands and you have fucking made it.

>> No.21125282

>>21123739
to poor for a mn. can i just delegate what i have? ifso where?

>> No.21125346

>>21125282
buy it on livecoin and stake less than 1 MN worth's XSN on their cloud service

>> No.21125359

>>21125282
there is a cloud staking service

>> No.21125438

>>21125359
Their terms & conditions state that you no longer own any coins you deposit there and any loss is not their fault.

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I market bought 2 MNs at the top at 3200 sats and it wasn't even the top, already pushing 3600

>> No.21125486

>>21125282
You can stake in your own wallet too. Or tpos

>> No.21125541
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map of masternode locations

>> No.21125811

Why has the XSN git not been updated for 2 years?

>> No.21125819

>>21125438
Nice FUD

>> No.21125861

>>21125541
This is just the IP that they're tied to. They can reroute the IPs to different countries if they want to

>> No.21125903

>>21125811
they're working in private repositories right now. the other day the CEO said it would take 1-2 years to develop the wallet so they don't want to make it open source yet since they're in early stages still and don't want other projects to steal

>> No.21125904

>>21125811
the fud is all so tiresome...but really though no one cares about your lies XSN is the next LINK its going straight to $10.

>> No.21125929
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>>21125819
It's all right there bro

>> No.21125943

Is the XSN blockchain public like BTC?

>> No.21125986

>>21125929
Check the third option. TPoS is a safer alternative to cloudstaking and that's why they put it there. Anybody who has ever used an exchange has surrendered custody of their coins. It's stating thr obvious man.

>> No.21126029

>>21125929
Dang so I'm better of sending to a hardware wallet until they finish what they're doingbwith trezor/ledger. Last I checked they were at 99%

>> No.21126139

>>21125282
>>21125346
>>21125359
What the hell, has everyone owning XSN forgot about TPoS already, or am I talking to newfags here?

>> No.21126153

>>21126029
Basically it’s the same as sending it to any exchange where you don’t control your keys. If the cloud gets hacked you have lost your staking XSN so that’s the risk you take just like exchanges

>> No.21126159

>>21126139
it's easier to just do cloud service if you dont own a full node

>> No.21126165

>>21125438
Use TPoS faggot

>> No.21126216

>>21123739
This ponzi scheme again, I'm not looking into the tech behind this.

>> No.21126261

>>21126153
Yeah just gonna take what I have out until they launch the ledger/trezor cold staking and remote masternodes

>> No.21126309

>>21126139
cloud service is normie friendly but you are right TPOS is the best way to go even with a 10% fee

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>>21126216
hello Cz

>> No.21126399

>>21124958
Beaxy

>> No.21126455 [DELETED] 

heres some FUD to spread on reddit and to retards who deserve to get priced out

https://pastebin.com/z3jaYeQk

>> No.21126485

heres some FUD to spread on reddit and to retards who deserve to get priced out

https://pastebin.com/XZamrVYv

>> No.21126632

Can anyone help me install the wallet on osx? I can't find any videos or tutorials.

>> No.21126779

I really fucking hope the eternal fuder has killed himself or was an XSN whale the whole time.

>> No.21126805

>>21126779
All the fudders were whales, anon

>> No.21126941

>>21123739
It's annoying you are drawing attention to this but fuck catching a pump feels good

>> No.21127099

WTF IM TRYING TO SELL SOME SHITCOIN I HAVE THAT I MADE HUGE PROFIT OFF OF BUT FUCKING UNISWAP HAS BEEN STUCK ON APPROVAL FOR TEN FUCKING MINUTES FUCK YOU UNISWAP FUXK YOU INJUST WNT MY FUXKING MASTERNODES

>> No.21127187

>>21126632
medium.com/@hermesesus/install-stakenet-xsn-core-wallet-on-macos-94ccf96a3f0d

>> No.21127282

18 DOLLARS WORTH OF FUCKING GAS AND THIS PIECE OF SHIT IS STILL PENDING THIS IS WHY WE FUCKING NEED STAKENET

>> No.21127299

im ngmi boys, only 6k and at these prices i will just about make it next weekend. fml boys

>> No.21127313

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

>> No.21127347
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Number go up

>> No.21127371

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK ARE YOU FUCKJNG KIDDING WHY THE FUCK OH THE FUCKING IRONY THESE FUCKING KIKES REALLY DONT WANT ME BUYING XSN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAJAJAJAJAHAHAHHABABABABA

>> No.21127446

>>21127371
Bro. Take your fucking meds.

>> No.21127515

>>21127446
NO MOTHER FUCKER FUCK YOU IT SHOULDNT GAKE THIS FUCKING LONG TO APPROVE A TOKEN WITH 18 FUCKING DOLLARS WORTH OF GAS UNISWAP IS LITERALLY KEKING ME

>> No.21127537

Syncing my wallet now. Thinking if I should sell some Buidl for a node

>> No.21127567

Fuck it you know what maybe its a sign that I should go to be and when I wake up my shitcoin will have mooned more and XSN will have a dip

>> No.21127583

>>21123739
Sorry if this is a dumb question but...Sounds kind of like uniswap to me, is this in the same vein as that? And is this all "defi"? Sorry for the basic ass questions I have been absent from the scene for several months. But I really love uniswap, it's so fucking convenient. Gone are the days where I traded shitcoins on 6 different exchanges.

>> No.21127607

>>21127583
NO UNISWAP IS FUCKING GARBAGE READ MY POSTS ABOVE FUCKING SLOW PIECE OF TRASH STAKENET ACTUALLY HAS LIGHTNING SPEED TRANSCTIONS DO NOT EVER USE UNISWAP AGAIN

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>>21123839
The coin and the wallet offered are a farce, seriously how can people honestly think that purchasing masternode based coins are worthwhile? Lets break it down because I am seeing this shit spammed all over reddit and 4chan.
Number #1 -Issue with Master-node coins.
We have a coin with a ridiculous supply to pay out these supposed master-node holders which at any point if a whale decides he has had enough will sell and crash the value of the coin on the open market, as we have seen in the past this always leads to a group of whales destroying the market price for the sake of rebuying the coins or moving onto their next ponzi scheme. How many middleware service node coins have you seen where the coin gets locked up for xyz amount of time just to be dumped to oblivion AFTER you've locked them away. The precursor to this move is poorly worded hyped up moonboys trying to do you a favor and spam every social media page...Seriously I've been in crypto since 2015 its all the same, look at Dash coin for christ sake...Stake ETH on a trusted service or go into stocks if you want dividends.
Number #2 -Staking and TAX ( YES TAX)
Depending on your countries taxation rules and specific crypto rules you will get burned I promise you, especially if you're an american. How do I know this coin isn't a security and wont send me to jail? I own these coins they give me a return everyday no matter how small and now I have to calculate ontop how much I owe tax man EVERY SINGLE DAY??? Are you kidding me? its like you want risk my own financial safety to boost your coin! Heavy research is required around tax law I would honestly consult and pay for a lawyer/accountant to navigate the purchasing of any staking coin.
Issue #3 -Where do I buy this from?
Well this is clearly an obvious one, I buy it from the most underground shady 2009 looking exchange website that has no 2FA NO support team NO trust from the community as a whole. Cont in next post.

>> No.21127625

I'm just gonna go to sleep guys please don't pump it too hard I can still afford 4 masternodes I don't wanna be priced out

>> No.21127630

>>21123739
Stakenet is a scam.

Buy ARPA, stake, and wait. It's literally all you have to do.

>> No.21127636

>>21127583
>it's so fucking convenient.
$4-5 fee per trade + $1 approve every 2

>> No.21127677

>>21127618
>Stake ETH on a trusted service

Lol read about CCPOS. It will let anyone stske XSN in a cold wallet and receive the awards in the prefered currency, like BTC, ETH, XMR TRUSTLESSLY

And that's only 1% of what XSN does and will do

>> No.21127687

>>21127187
Thank you so much fren. This is the only tutorial out there

>> No.21127712

chart looks like a classic fucking bubble chart.... I think I'll pass, this shits gonna ampleforth.

>> No.21127776
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>>21127618
Issue #3 - Cont
Only place I have ever found this PoS(piece of s***) coin was from terrible exchanges, if it were on some reputable exchanges like bittrex or coinbase then I might give it some thought but nononono some random untrustworthy racist nazi 4channer said I should buy it off Coinallscamnetwork; I think I will stick to real exchanges with real coins that have partnerships with already established financial networks like XRP like ADA like nano. Seriously next thing you're going to tell me is transfer ETH to uniswap then buy xyzgouptoken it has good pumpamentals and will make me richhhh$$$$.
Issue #4 -The team, who are they?
Nobodies thats who, next!
Issue #5 -4chan
I've dabbled in this place since chain-link was supposedly found here first. Why would anyone want to be associated with the worst of the worst. The most racist people on this planet, who casually post the most vial and disgusting things I've ever seen on the internet no wonder you have no girlfriends you incel f***s! Just by being posted on here I can already seee this coin taking a nose dive down into the bin much like bitconnect and confido!

Long story short : You're a fool if you buy this scam and probably-NO certainly a nazi f**

/rant.

>> No.21127846

>>21127776
Not bad anon, not bad

This should knock 0.01$ off the coin, and allow me to get a little more XSN for my dollars.

Thx

>> No.21127886

>>21127618
>>21127776
Thx I'll use these.

>> No.21127900

>>21127618
>>21127618
>>21127618
someone explain the tax thing? why would passive income be a bad thing people do it all the time? I seriously just want to know the inner workings of this burger style.

what's the teams total token holdings?

>> No.21127901

>>21127776
Worst fud Ive seen yet.

>> No.21127906

>>21127712
Please dont compare stakenet to the useless, functionless vapourware that is ampleforth. please however, sit on the sideline and watch this train blow past you. You dont see the value here, and you dont belong here.

>> No.21127924

>>21125073
bisq
similar decentralized app, receives fiat payments
also a number of ways to trade using P2P methods outside of a traditional exchange (dether, localmonero, etc)

>> No.21127960

>>21127901
If you could read, you would see that it isn't FUD but FACTS.

#factsandlogic

>> No.21128089

>>21127099
This is why we need the Stakenet DEX, anon.

>> No.21128123

>>21127960
KYS homo.

>> No.21128145

>>21127900
anyone?

>> No.21128162

>>21128145
Dude he just spammed fud. Tax is done by the tax law of the country you are in.

>> No.21128223

>>21127960
OK, to dispute the tax/security concern. Please look up SEC v. W. J. Howey Co. and the "Howey Test".

I don't believe XSN coins would be considered as securities because there was no ICO raised for the development of the coin.

Ethereum technically had an ICO, and wasn't labeled a security.

For tax purposes, it's still not completely clear. But some sources suggest that staking rewards should be treated like mining gold, whereby the tax is applied only at the time of sale.

Again depends on your specific case tho.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shehanchandrasekera/2020/08/07/when-should-staking-be-taxed/#69d4f5971a78

>> No.21128224

>>21127900
It's different with crypto, you're generally viewed as a bad goy for owning crypto, let alone making passive income from it.
When ever you receive a staking/MN reward that is a taxable event. You might receive tens of these every day so basically you should keep track of every single reward you receive and log the price of that reward in USD at that moment in time (who decides the correct price though?). So even if you don't sell your rewards you still owe the tax man their share of those rewards.
Then if you decide to sell your rewards some day, you will have to compare every single reward's USD price and see how much it's gained in value since then and pay tax on that gained value.

So the tax man has the means to fuck you over real bad if they want to. You could be faced with criminal charges for evading taxes for example if you don't do everything exactly by the book. Of course it's probably not going to happen but it's still something that's good to understand.

>> No.21128269

>>21128224
Please note that all this tax stuff is basically a burger-only problem.

>> No.21128270

>>21128123
Couldn't even address 1 single point, typical! Resorting to insults haha just go home!
>>21128223
I used the US as an example as each state/country/wherever has their own taxation laws. But yes correct we would need SEC ruling. Also if it wasn't clear I already have 1 MN But >>21128123 is clearly a brainlet.

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>>21128270
Fuck off CZ you still don't know how the aggregator works.

>> No.21128278

>>21127900
Stakes have to be taxed differently than what you're hodling for a certain period (e.g. +1yr). Stakes often will have to be taxed with capital gain taxes in fiat value wmin the moment you received them. But that's not an issue to Stakenet. That's one to any staking coin and the whole fucking DeFi system. And it greatly depends on your country. So it's weak fud. That anon probably got priced out of a MN

>> No.21128314

>>21128162
>>21128162
yeah but how does staking work for burgers tax wise?
>>21128223
weren't there two projects though, did the first one have an ICO? I thought all cryptos were labelled securities in burger

>> No.21128329

>>21128269
It's not. I live in northern europe and we have the same problems. The tax man is purposfully burdening crypto investors with completely unreasonable documentation requirements of trades and received staking rewards so that they can reserve the power to fuck you over if they want.

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21128334

Can't wait for that handle to 10k Sat

>> No.21128336

>>21128314
I don't know im not a burger. You should understand how own nations laws.

>> No.21128343

>>21128334
Doesn't it need to dip to make a handle?

>> No.21128347

>>21127776
Regarding Issue #4 (Who is the team)

Frank Amato - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ftaiii/

"Former JPMorgan Commodity Derivative Trader. Private / Angel Investor in the FinTech sector, with an interest/focus on Bitcoin and Blockchain technologies. Co-Founder and Head of the London office of Block5. Pre-Seed Round investor in Bitmex Exchange and early member of Blockchain Capitals Angellist syndicate. Investment Manager at Grasshopper Capital. "

https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-draper/

X9 Developers - Read about these fucks here

https://www.x9developers.com/

>> No.21128385

>>21127776
Also remember

They are talking with Electric Capital, and a bunch of Ex Facebook Software Developer chads are vetting Stakenet DEX as we speak.

>> No.21128395

I will unironically kill myself if i dont get my wallet back.

>> No.21128417

>>21127776
Regarding Livecoin, it's not even that bad of an exchange.

I tried with 1 eth and when everything was fine I tried with 5 eth... everything was still fine so I started comfortable sending in and out like 20 eth worth of shit.

Not valid FUD, but still I get it, reputable exchange would be nice. Beaxy is OK but pulled some shit with their 500$ loan thing, where they updated their TOS to say that you can only get 500$ if you trade X amount of fees worth in a certain amount of timeperiod, or they keep your 500$ bonus and your profits generated from that (fucked up)

>> No.21128427

>>21128417
Yeah beaxy really put me off. Waiting for them to respond to my email coz i cant move my funds out.

>> No.21128476

>>21128395
what happened to your wallet bro?

>> No.21128532

>>21127900
what about the team's coins? any info on this?

>> No.21128543

>>21128532
What about the treasury?

>> No.21128551

>>21128269
>>21128224
What's the worst that can happen?
Jail?
No more neetbux?

>> No.21128555

For issue number 1, I personally tried crashing the price by market selling when it dumped from 0.25 to 0.18.

It recovered the same day.

I guess anything can crash given sufficient sell volumes, it's part of the risks of trading.

>> No.21128570

>>21128555
Checked, look at the orderbook, anything you sell will get eaten up.

>> No.21128581

>>21124836
>The Company reserves the right at its sole discretion to suspend your access to the
Didn't read any further.

>> No.21128589

>>21128343
Yea I guess it'll dip to 4k from 5k and then go for 10k

>> No.21128601

>>21128224
What's stopping a person from say...

Cashing out at a BTC ATM which requires no KYC, and using the cash to pay for stuff?

Or trading XSN for BTC, then buying a car?

Of course I don't advocate breaking the law, and you should pay your taxes.

But I'm pretty sure there are some ways where you don't necessarily withdraw everything at once, and can improve your life considerably.

>> No.21128626

>>21128224
this risk can be massively mitigated by incorporating your assets under an LLC or by taking to a tax professional who can guide you through the process of maintaining and filling your incorporation papers.

>> No.21128627

>>21128543
>>21128543
how much do they have overall? one of the big risks seems to be the team and whales have insane amounts that aren't really built into the current total coins?

>> No.21128641

>>21128627
Circulating supply vs total. Treasury requires masternode votes to access funds.

>> No.21128680

>>21128641
what about the previous project coins, are they included in circulating supply?

>> No.21128684

>>21128601
just dont cash out, all together at once, try and buy with actual crypto, increase adoption anyway u can everyday a little more, instead of being some scabby jew troll in the dark with money no one wants - try and show everyone a little bit everytime but never too much at a time why they want cipher/encrypted money.

>> No.21128690

>>21128601
>BTC ATM
Are there ones that don't require an ID? I heard some have you show your face and Scan ID

>>21128224
>>21128601
XSN should be coming with an escrow service eventually.
One option would be to pay the escrow crypto and someone buys something with fiat for you on amazon etc.

>> No.21128693

>>21128680
They were swapped into xsn a long time ago.

>> No.21128738

>>21128684
additionally save ur money in Grin or some other indie fag0ts original idea like elliptic curves and shit for fucking the tax man right off.

>> No.21128753

guys I own around 120k posw how can I swap?

>> No.21128761

>>21128753
It's too late now, token swap was ages ago.

>> No.21128772

>>21128693
the guy said they're not accounted for in the total circulation?

>> No.21128780

>>21128772
Any posw tokens swapped into xsn will be in the circulating supply... coz it's now xsn.

>> No.21128803

>>21128753
>>21128753
>>21128780
>>21128780
so no old posw holders will be able to move in with random massive stacks because the exchange window is gone?

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>>21128684
>scabby jew

>> No.21128820

>>21128803
Pretty sure, you can always go to the discord and ask the devs.

>> No.21128859

>>21128820
pretty based if they don't let them do it

>> No.21128861

>>21128329
then just move, next year you can go to some southern or eastern eu country and tell sweden/norway/denmark socialistfaggots to fuck off forever if you own 1+ MN

>> No.21128884

>>21128803
Swap ended in May 2018. Xsn has been burned in the same amoubt of posw that wasnt swapped. So it's all in the supply

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ok what now?

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21129016

when can I quit my job?

>> No.21129019

>>21129004
You need 150 min on cloud, 15000 on core wallet.

>> No.21129030

>>21129004
Look up, stakenet MnaaS

>> No.21129072

>>21129016
is that for one mn?

>> No.21129106

>>21127906
Ampleforth has a pretty cool concept but it was PnD food just like this is lol

>> No.21129134

Lets say exchange go live and i only managed to accumulate 12k, can i stake it for two years then go for MN? Will the MN tun out after awhile or anythibg else that will hinder me to get MN in the future?

>> No.21129137

>>21129072
yeah you can see its the same label aka MN1 :)

>> No.21129223

>>21129072
Yeah, you can tell cuz he named it MN1

>> No.21129286

>>21128224
Well the irs only has so much time left. But they can kiss my ass if they want me to track daily rewards. Fucking amazon not paying taxes. The more money I keep the more I help the economy. See now we gotta all have tax professionals so we can form LLCs to pay the least amount

>> No.21129364

I traded this shitcoin already in 2018 and it pumped because dex was coming soon...it will dump so hard when people realize they wont release this retarded dex or they will release it and it will be just shit. Enjoy the ride while it lasts

>> No.21129384

>>21129134
damn how many new masternodes will be created in 5 years off of this? Could really dilute the reward/trade earnings. I thought 4,000 would be the highest but if people are doing what this anon is then it can do double that

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>>21129364

Can't say if retarded or just pajeet fud

>> No.21129428

>>21129384
thanks just market sold my newly bought MN stack

>> No.21129453

>>21129384

4k mn only? We at 2.4k now...

>> No.21129486

>>21129364
retarded? how is instant zero fee ANONYMOUS swaps between ETH and BTC and ERC20 retarded?

>> No.21129515

$100 EOY

>> No.21129535

>>21129486
I will buy when it works and is widely adopted. Now its too late to buy only for the pnd

>> No.21129547

>>21129384
Not nearly as many as you believe.
>>21129535
>Buy after it pumps

>> No.21129553

>>21129453
And this will go up to over 4k easily if people hold. Might not get much from staking or having MNs in about 5 years due to MN dilution

>> No.21129555

>>21125282
Send me all your coins and ill pool with mine to make a masternode

>> No.21129644

>>21129384
I can’t remember the numbers, but someone through out that it would take years before there could be 7000. It’s the endgame for this though, to have a fuck los of masternodes.

However. That’s not a bad thing. The masternodes will create new masternodes and they will be held by the same people. Just generating even more income. The hydra release is still a while away so forget about that *part* just now.

If there are too many masternodes. It will become more profitable to just stake. There’s a built in balance system.

You *might* end up getting more roi having 50k staking, if xsn goes to $50, rather than having two masternodes collecting dex fees. It’s going to need figuring out down the line.

Plus you’ll see a lot of weak hands selling and then breaking down masternodes once they hit their sell point.

All in all pretty cool. For now, masternodes has higher roi. And will continue to do so as the price of xsn goes up and hydra isn’t out.

>> No.21129709

>>21129384
Also think of it like this, if the number of masternodes goes up alot then the price of xsn will likely increase alot aswell due to the decreased amount of non-locked up xsn. These large price increases due to low supply would likely lead to people selling off their master nodes to collect large amounts at once. So it could help to keep a good balance of not too many master nodes

>> No.21129716

ok the whitepaper and you shilling faggots convinced me to get a bag. is it better to buy on coinall or livecoin? and what's a suicide/make it stack? 1 masternode enough?

>> No.21129769

>>21129716
Depends. We don’t know what sort of volume the dex will get, and we don’t know what the trading fees will be changed to. Assume that as the volume goes up. Dex fees go down, so likely you’ll need more than one masternode if you’re looking for passive income.

Depends what making it is to you. Better to just have x amount of xsn and set a price point. Same thing you do with any other investment

>> No.21129772

>>21129716
livecoin btc trading pair has highest volume, bought 1 MN yday - no KYC required

>> No.21129789

>>21129384
In 5 years one XSN will be 350$ and one MN will cost 5,250,000$. There will barely be any ppl able to buy a node.
Right now it's already 5k$ per node. EOY it'll be 20k$ per node. We will never see more than 3000 MNs. This will be a highly elite circle which will make future poorfags cum in their dreams wishing they were a MN owner

>> No.21129848

YOU ABSOLUTE RETARDS TOR IS ALREADY BANNED IN CHINA.

THIS WILL NOT HAVE A WORLDWIDE USE WHEN OTHER COUNTRIES ISPs BAN TOR TOO.

IDIOTS!

>> No.21129948

>>21129848
t. priced out

>> No.21130026

>>21129769
ok assuming I'll get 2 masternodes and assuming crypto does go on another bull, what's your guesstimate for generated yearly passive income by those 2 nodes?

>> No.21130124

>>21130026
Honestly fuck knows man. It could be a couple hundred a month or it could unironically be higher than Pepsi’s ceo daily.

>> No.21130270

>>21124958
Livecoin or beaxy, or you can wait for the dex and get priced out. What're you scared of? Getting BITGRAIL'D?

>> No.21130520

>>21129848
its optional you faggot.

>> No.21130601

>>21129789
Based.

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>>21125943
it's public

>>21130026
How 250,000$ sounds

>> No.21130729

>>21129789
>350k for xsn
This is like thinking link is going to hit $81,000 in 5 years.

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>>21130729
Yeah. It is.

>> No.21130773

>>21130729
You’re gonna sell link at $100 aren’t you. Not fucking realising that the entire project only works when more collateral is injected.

See you in 2025 when link is 5k and xsn is $650. I’ll make sure not to scratch your 20ft sailboat with my mega yacht.

>> No.21130796

Xsn is the best

>> No.21130816

Should we revise the "XSN $100 2021" to "XSN $100 2020"? Honestly it's looking like we're launching like no-one could've predicted.

>> No.21131026

>>21130816

100$ is fud

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>>21131026
This.

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Coinmarketcap actually deleted the market pairs and exchanges for XSN, CZ really must be scared

>> No.21131687

>>21123739
tfw accidentally bought XLP instead of XSN 3 weeks ago ;/

>> No.21131992

>>21125073
Have you heard of dether?

I have 4 MNs and went into dethef because it solves that exact problem.

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>>21131687
That's impressive, good job anon.
pfft.

>> No.21132030

>>21131687

Kek

This is what keeps a poorfag like me going

>> No.21132053

>>21127583
Think uniswap, but cross-chain, nearly feeless, and instant settlement.

Then you can get into the details, like TOR integration.