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Sell me this hardware wallet

>> No.21120264

>>21120200
Here ya go bud:
https://shop.ledger.com/products/ledger-nano-s
Sold.

>> No.21120290

>>21120200
I ordered one and they lost it in the mail. Ledger tells me to complain to DHL and DHL tells me to complain to Ledger. No refund and no reshipment. Then their sales info got hacked and I apparently got doxxed to boot

>> No.21120328

>>21120290
How can you fail in life so much, anon?

>> No.21120341

>>21120328
At least I bought chainlink at $4

>> No.21120347

>>21120290
They are fucking shit. Although they sold me one for free because Windows fucked their shit up. I had to connect it to a Mac to update the firmware to a point it would still work on Windows.

>> No.21120366

Am I actually fucked if I bought one last month?

>> No.21120384

Ok So here is the real question for this thread: How are you guys keeping your linkies safe? I have one of these and keep roughly half on it and I live in Tuscalossa, AL. I need something safer but I don't know what it is.

>> No.21120409

>>21120366
I would check when the data breach happened but I think it was only historical data. I would email them though.

>> No.21120642
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21120642

Ok obviously I don't live in Tuscaloosa, but I'm freaking out here. HOW DO I KEEP MY LINKIES SAFE??

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21120682

>>21120290
Mine just came into the mail today. DHL shipped from Paris to Cali in like 4 days lmao

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21120902

>>21120682
Lol mine literally took over 2 months. Fuck those Frenchies.

>> No.21121107

>>21120642
hardware wallet is still the best imo. Best practice:

1) Don't tell anybody you have cryptocurrency
2) Store the recovery seed in multiple locations. Make it non-obvious what it is. Don't store it next to your wallet. For an extra level of paranoia, come up with simple encryption algorithm you can easily remember and decode by hand.
3) If you are still worried, split your stack across multiple hardware wallets. You can keep some on coinbase too.

>> No.21121117

My nano x ordered from france took 2 fucking months to arrive.
I thought it was lost in the mail so I ordered it locally, then the french one arrived the day after the local one kek.

>> No.21121183

Alright Gentlemen. You have until 018:00 hours to keep those linkies safe. I know you will. Listen to this anon's >>21121107 advice. We walked a long hard road to get here. Don't let some scumbag pull it off you. Over and out.

>> No.21121207

>>21120384
Just put it in coinbase vault.

>> No.21121229

ahh whoops, sorry here are the addresses and contact information for our ledger users. WHOOPS. certainly hope this information isn't misused by murderers and rapists haha

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21121228

>>21121183
forgot image lol

>> No.21121236

>>21120682
Same, shipped from wherever in Europe to Tejano in only 3 days. No issues whatsoever, took a bit to figure out that I had to turn on "allow contract data" to use it with uniswap. Otherwise pretty nice.

>> No.21121576

Question on the Ledger Nano: is it possible to make it require a PIN to restore from the recovery phrase?

>> No.21121588

>>21120200
I have one I can sell you. It still has a few dollars worth of eth on it. Only $10 shipped

>> No.21121626

It was up my ass.

>> No.21121662

You don't buy hardware wallets for security. You buy them so you can act like a genius when somebody asks what it is.

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>>21120290
fuck i just bought one for eth today they better fuckin deliver

>> No.21121697

>>21121662
Yeah but... airgap.....?

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21121784

>"Ladies and Gentlemen. You have until 018:000 hours until every Ledger Nano S in the city is hacked"

What do you do, /biz/?

>> No.21121807

>>21120264
that's an X you cocksucking retard

>> No.21121848

Why would you possibly pick this over a trezor?

>> No.21121873

>>21121107
Is Coinbase safe? What’s the max $$ amount you’d leave there in an asset

>> No.21121885

You might fuckup making your own wallets somehow, buy this and you probably wont. You can also trade directly from it eliminating other chances of fucking up. Just make sure you record your 24 word seed phrase permanently.

>> No.21121890

>>21121848
Trezor got hacked in a demo. Granted it was over bluetooth I think.

>> No.21121901

got mine from amazon.. you can find them for 50% off

>> No.21121912

>>21120290
>Then their sales info got hacked and I apparently got doxxed to boot
tfw bought 3 nano s and 1 ledger blue late '17 before they got compromised
bought an X today, after they fix'd the compromise
>never going to get robbers chop me up
>still got to have the best hardware wallet on the planet.
comfy.

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>>21121901
No not DO NOT buy your nano off Amazon or any other 3rd party

>> No.21121939

>>21121901
nano X is cheapest (by far) on ledger site. at least from hungary.
tried compare.eu and only gave me way shittier deals

>> No.21121956

>>21120200
Well OP, other hardware wallets are shit, and will also turn you into a jew.

Regards
Ledger customer support.

>> No.21121983

>>21121901
The lord giveth and the lord taketh

>> No.21121986

>>21120200
never buy french technology products. that's why I went with trezor. they're based slavic entrepreneurs. (slavic math education is above all)

french can only socialism

>> No.21122011

>>21121937
the firmware is signed by ledger retard, amazon, or any 3rd party, can't compromise your hardware or it won't run with ledger live

>> No.21122090

>>21122011
This is Master Sergeant Anon speaking, who is this? Identify yourself.

>> No.21122324

If you're going to buy a hardware wallet, don't be stupid. Why would you cut corners.

>> No.21122494

>>21121873
Honestly I do think coinbase is safe and keeping 100% of your stack could potentially be justified if you don't trust yourself with a hardware wallet. Unlike the Asian exchanges if they ever got hacked then the executives would be in deep legal shit and would likely end up on the hook to compensate customers. They also probably have a lot of insurance in place at this point. Same goes for gemini

Right now I have 10% of my crypto on coinbase

>> No.21122527

>>21120200
do you think you should buy product from a security services retailer who can't secure the customer data on their website?

>have I got a deal for you!

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21122616

>>21122090
I really am a Master Sergeant though. In Minecraft.

>> No.21122637

>>21120290
It's a coronavirus thing. Nothing fucking works anymore. Just keep making tickets with DHL until a white person picks it up and actually fixes your problem

>> No.21122670

>>21122527
What is the most secure solution then, anon? I'd love to hear it.

>> No.21122686

>>21121890

Can you explain this or what happened exactly. I have both Ledger and Trezor and Idk which is better to use.

>> No.21122722

>>21122686
Someone can hack into your Trezor if they have the physical device. That’s it

>> No.21122787

>>21122722
Which is worse than ledger. They get your physical device, can't do shit. Unless they have the PIN.

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21123139

Nano Ledger has never been hacked. They had their customer data hacked.

I hate both. Keeping everything in Metamask? All it takes is one malicious update to fuck your shit up.

So what can you actually do. Paper wallet. But you better never lose that piece of paper. I know a person that lost their entire house to a fire. So the question is. What. Is. Secure.

>> No.21123501

>>21123139
Encode and tattoo your recovery phrase onto the inside onto your inner thigh

>> No.21123530

>>21122787
>>21122722

Damn that is a huge flaw. I kind of doubt most people would be able to get ahold of the device let alone know how to hack it. That being said its a ridiculous liability. What about the ledger? Were the recent leaks compromising to the accounts? I don't want everyone on the planet to know I have a ledger and crypto. That seems fucking terrifying too.

>> No.21123618

>>21123139

How would a malicious update screw you? Who/Why/How would someone do that? I guess I don't even know who developed Metamask. I'm really trying to figure out the best method here and it seems like splitting everything among 5 sources seems the best. Maybe use 1 exchange 1 Metamask 1 Trezor 1 Ledger and Paper wallet?

>> No.21123704

Bought my ledger x on amazon, sure amazon is full of fuckery with client data but it also has next day shipping so....

Advice for the marines / big stack hodlers. Get 1 ledger per $50k worth of linkies / shitcoin. Safer that way

>> No.21124159

my nano x arrived same day the article about their btc flaw released. was really unsettling, and shows how incompetent they are for doing nothing about it for 8 fucking months. at least i dodged the email leaks, although i wouldnt doubt somewhere every purchase address is tracked, only a matter of time until bulgarian assassin hunts my asshole

>> No.21124160

>>21123139
>Paper wallet
Depends
>Did you use an offline JS generator?
JS cryptography has mathematical errors and will make your security weak, on top of having to trust that the file you just downloaded hasn't been tampered to make pre-determined keys.
>Did you use electrum offline?
You're trusting your OS, a HUUUUUGE attack surface for malware and keyloggers.
>Electrum offline + Tails OS?
You're trusting Tails OS, which is known being tracked by the NSA

There's just no way of actually making a truly secure wallet.
The best you can do is split your paper wallets so you minimize the damage and even that is not a given if you used the same method for all the wallets.

>> No.21124181

>>21120200
Just put your money in LINK and YFLINK and don't touch it for a year how difficult can it NOT be?

>> No.21124469

>>21124181
>YFLINK
fuck off, pajeet.

>> No.21125291

what happens when it stops functioning

>> No.21126194

>>21120902
Could be due to the whole wuhan or u dont live in the states
>>21121236
Nice. Texas sounds like a nice place. Better than Cali for sure