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>$8k in cash savings
>$50k in crypto
>quit my shitty wagecuck programming job last year because I thought I was going to make it in crypto
>living off my savings and unemployment benefits right now
>have ptsd and panic attacks just thinking about having to go back to work one day
I don't know what I'm going to do if I don't make it soon /biz/. I can't go back to work again because just the thought of working as a code monkey again makes me want to kill myself, but if I run out of money I won't have any other choice but to kill myself or starve to death anyway.

>> No.21109276

>>21109217
shouldve went all in LINK

>> No.21109288

>>21109276
I only have 1k link

>> No.21109301
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>>21109217
i'm a software engineer as well anon, somewhat made it. look into zclassic. we're talking x100 here. low risk, high upside. take a small stake and wing it.

>> No.21109308

>>21109288
1k link is enough to make it

>> No.21109312

>>21109217
Learn something else jackass.

>> No.21109328

>>21109308
But when? I've been waiting for 3 years. I need at least $1 million to make it...

>> No.21109332

>>21109288
same boat as you anon i cant go back to working with pajeet for the globo homo i want to kms

>> No.21109333

>>21109288
>8k savings
>50k invested
You might need to diversify a bit and maybe get into options, but you're doing better than most if you're cost of living is low.

>> No.21109339

>>21109217
>>have ptsd and panic attacks just thinking about having to go back to work one day
kek just stake SUTER anon

>> No.21109360

>>21109333
>get into options
That's too risky. If I lose my savings I'm as good as dead.

>> No.21109372

>>21109328
2025

>> No.21109394

>>21109372
I don't have that long, I'll completely run out of money in 2-3 years.

>> No.21109406

>>21109217
lots of fun stuff to do in the crypto space. Look up some of the big youtubers that you vibe with, send them an email, see if they want an analyst or whatever skills you have, make yourself useful in service of something that excites you and the panic attacks will go away.

>> No.21109420

>>21109394
maybe you should think about getting a job and improving yourself in the time leading up to a high price

>> No.21109431

>>21109360
This might sound blasphemous, but maybe just put in $500 to 1k to get your feet wet. If you do it right, you can buy yourself a lot of time.

>> No.21109486

>>21109312
Like what? Programming is the easiest job I can think of and it still made me want to kill myself every day. It was even a work from home job but that didn't make it any less wagecuckery.

>> No.21109524

>>21109372
Wagie wagie back in the cagie

>> No.21109523

>>21109431
It's just gambling though. At least with long term holding crypto I don't have the risk of losing my entire net worth in a day.

>> No.21109527

>>21109486
Maybe a night time security guard at a desk? Bring a laptop. It doesn't get any easier than that.

>> No.21109551

>>21109394
Dude just find a not too hard job that supports your expenses for 2-3 years.

>> No.21109560

>>21109551
see >>21109486

>> No.21109578

>>21109523
>Losing your entire networth in a day
You only lose what you put in, Options are actually low risk/high reward if you only buy $200-$400 investments. If you don't want to do it, that's okay though, just throwing the suggestion out there as I'm in a similar position and it worked for me.

>> No.21109619

>>21109527
That's not easy at all, especially with the coronavirus going around. I don't even have a car anyway.

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>>21109301

>> No.21109680

>>21109217
>>21109486
Literally living life on easy mode and it's not easy enough. You were never going to make it

>> No.21109690

>>21109301
I already got scammed by that coin once. Bought like $700 of it at $100 for the btcp fork and now both btcp and zcl are worthless.

>> No.21109721

>>21109217
Why don't you teach or consult?
Become a headhunter?
You need a source of income.
You're taking a big gamble, even if you had 3 times your investment and savings.

>> No.21109741

>>21109486
What are you interested in?

>> No.21109748

>>21109721
I'm very bad at dealing with people so I can't do any of those things. Literally the only thing I can do is sit at a computer and do something that requires no human interaction.

>> No.21109757

>>21109217
Learn solidity apply for dev jobs for projects.

>> No.21109810

>>21109741
Nothing really

>> No.21109826

>>21109486
> It was even a work from home job but that didn't make it any less wagecuckery.
i think you just have a case of being a little bitch syndrome. jesus fucking christ. help yourself.

>> No.21109831

>>21109810
Truly never going to make it.

>> No.21109891

>>21109690
it's my point, sorry for your loss but now waves and waves of bagholders have capitulated. it has bottomed out and its main project (Zcash) is on a breakout trajectory.

>> No.21109916

>>21109831
Life is like a prison unless you make it, so how can I even have any interests before I have enough money to be free to live?

>> No.21109944

>>21109748
learn to swing trade

>> No.21109981

>>21109560
Go to a fucking career advisor at a college or to a tech staffing agency

>> No.21110000

>>21109217
>mommy!!

You watch too many Disney movies, you make me sick with your cowardice.

>> No.21110039

Stop asking yourself how you're going to avoid doing any work and start asking yourself how you're going to make yourself more productive. Even if you're a total piece of shit you can still turn it around.

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>>21109333
>diversify a bit and maybe get into options

>> No.21110094

>>21109916
Aren't you living without working right now? Find something. Not everything requires tons of money. Your depression about life is literally making you more retarded than you were otherwise.

>> No.21110098

>>21110039
Why should I care about how productive I am? The modern world has gone to shit anyway so what incentive do I have to want to contribute anything to it? I just want to have enough money so I can be left alone and live comfortably without ever having to interact with anyone again.

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>>21109486

>> No.21110226

>>21110094
>Not everything requires tons of money
Everything requires money. The cheapest thing is probably video games, but I'm mostly bored of them at this point. Lately I've just been spending most of my time playing autistic flight simulator games.

>> No.21110299

>>21110226
Because you're literally autistic. Neck yourself

>> No.21110325

>>21110226
>cheapest thing is Jewish weekly $60 downloads or pieces of plastic

Below are some examples of hobbies which require very little or no money to get started:
>drawing/painting
>working out
>cooking
>fishing
>hiking
>botany

>> No.21110327

>>21110299
I mean aren't most people on /biz/?

>> No.21110359

>>21110000
checked, kill yourself OP

>> No.21110366

>>21110325
I've tried all of those things at some point in my life and I hated every single one of them. Video games are the only thing that give me even a glimpse of joy anymore.

>> No.21110371

>>21110098
Why don't you just build something? Make roulette game with an erc20 token that keeps lost tokens in a smart contract and pays them back out to the punters every month so they can save money while they fuck themselves in the ass? You can singlehandedly save the world from gambling addiction

>> No.21110426

>>21110366
Get a bicycle. Thats your new thing.

Then go all in on link now. 2025 you are a millionaire. Done

>> No.21110482

>>21110426
Had a bike for a few years, got tired of that too. I'm in my 30s now and any kind of strenuous physical activity just makes me feel like shit.

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>>21110366
if that's the case, why even bother continuing to live?

>> No.21110520

>>21110510
I honestly wonder that every single day.

>> No.21110557

>>21109217
51% attack ethereum classic for an easy 100k to stay afloat

>> No.21110611

>>21109217
Bro hope onto Fiverr and do extremely small code edits for websites and apps. Tons of entrepreneurs out there with ideas they can't execute on by themselves, but also don't want to give any share of their idea away. It doesn't even matter if they make it or not, they'll still pay you to do some coding task, which likely isn't all the difficult.

>> No.21110623

>>21110520
You need to snap out of it.

>> No.21110641

>>21110611
Don't they only pay $5 per job? Unless it's literally 5 minutes of work to do and I can do hundreds of them in succession then it's not worth it at all.

>> No.21110666

>>21110623
Snap out of what, grim reality?

>> No.21110732

>>21110226
What do u even want money for if u have 0 interests or hobbies? Neck yourself and send me that sweet currency m8.

>> No.21110736

>>21110666
I was the same, depressed, shit jobs, no life at 30. I got hobbies, drones, ebikes, escooters, balisong as fidget spinner, fishing and hunting. Feel much better for it.

>> No.21110743

>>21110732
Like I said >>21110098

>> No.21110786

>>21110641
No man I've legit paid a pajeet $50 on Fiverr before to make a fucking image variant selector for a single product page. I paid another pajeet $50 to increase my page speed, but he fucked it up, so I then paid a white guy $100 to do the same thing.

>> No.21110812

>>21110641
No fiver is just the catchy name of the website, there are all sorts of different fees available for all sorts of different jobs

>> No.21110813

why the fuck would you quit your job with 50k investing and 8k in the bank ? you quit your job AFTER you get your returns and finally make it not before and hope for the best.

>> No.21110823

>>21110736
Your hobby is playing with fidget spinners?

>> No.21110866

>>21110786
Basically, there's a ton of people still selling product from China online. A lot of Chinese wholesalers contact US drop shippers that specialize in branding, and online advertisement. They move the product for China, and they get profit. A lot of them will even pay 3rd party warehouses to hold the product in the USA for faster shipping times, without ever having to touch a product or fulfill an order themselves. The space is fairly competitive though, which is why people will hire code monkeys on Fiverr to do custom edits for their websites.

>> No.21110894

>>21110813
Because my job was making me want to kill myself and I couldn't take it anymore, so I took the risk of living off my savings for a few years while hopefully waiting for the golden bull run. Also I had $40k in the bank and like $30k in crypto when I quit.

>> No.21110903

>>21110823
My point is he has to keep busy

>> No.21110911

>>21109328
hope you're balls deep in xsn, bro

>> No.21110916

>>21109217
BRR
- https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/brr/
- https://www.brr.finance/
- Use Metamask for uniswap

Put down 50% of your crypto into this immediately. Use Metamask to transfer it via ETH.

And buy Bancor - BNT with the rest of your crypto.

Act fast.

>> No.21110944

>>21110916
Looks like some kind of retarded scam.

>> No.21110966

>>21110944
Even being in your threads depressing.
Imagine meeting you in person, christ.

>> No.21111022

>>21110944
Look man, I put out some solid ideas. A lot of people on this thread have given you some good advice. At the bare minimum you should at least be doing Uber / Door Dash / Grub Hub three days a week. If you did just that amount of effort, you can enjoy sitting on your ass most of the time and not having to get shit on by any form of management. Personally, I think you should freelance your skill online. It wouldn't be that difficult.

>> No.21111071

>>21110944
Everything is a scam. Doesn't mean you can't make money on it.

Just helping out another anon.

>> No.21111103

>>21111022
>just do a job that barely breaks even on the cost of driving and risk interacting with dozens of people every day who might have the coronavirus
That's just dumb and I don't even have a car anyway.

>> No.21111127

>>21110894
ngmi

>> No.21111131

>>21111111

>> No.21111158

>>21111103
With that attitude, you're never going to make it.

If you're purposely choosing to fail, don't complain to other people about it. You're wasting your time, and mine.

>> No.21111181

>>21111022
Let me check those digits for you sir

>> No.21111223

>>21109217
what kind of engineer are you?

>> No.21111240

>>21111223
I used to do web development but I never want to write a single line of code again.

>> No.21111250

that is more than some people have...
work as a janitor then see how much you really want to kys
if you'd rather starve to death than be a wageslave, so be it.

>> No.21111306

OP stop being a lazy bitch. You quit your job without real savings and you're whining about having worked from home... Go mow some lawns or something if you really hate working in an office but you have to at least have money to invest if you want to make it with crypto

>> No.21111344

>>21111306
Well I still have $50k in crypto so there's at least a chance if the GBR happens int he next year or two...

>> No.21111355

>>21109301
This is an interesting play, but desu, I think the flaw is that privacy coin bubble might be dead. Privacy coins are legit and valuable, but without a bubble, the clones/forks won't see the sort of growth they did previously, and will probably stay "oversold". Add in the fact that, while I know Monero and Zcash are _vastly_ different in how they actually work, the market as a whole just treats zcash as a cheaper Monero, since they solve a similar problem. So from the market's perspective you're talking about buying a "clone" of a "clone".

Still, its an interesting play. Good idea to look left when everyone is looking right.

>>21109690
you didn't get scammed by ZCL. You got scammed by BTCP somewhat, but also the bubble just burst. Don't confuse that with a scam or its going to dramatically cloud your ability to make rational trading decisions.

>> No.21111387

>>21111355
Like 99% of shitcoins are scams that aren't worth anything. LINK is the only one so far that's shown some real promise since the market crashed in 2017.

>> No.21111406

>>21111240
Toughen the fuck up. You realize how easy we have it? Only 40 hours a week? Sitting in front of a computer?

Nobody shooting at you, no random weather fucking you over, finishing the day with an intact body for exercise or sports. Your autistic ass just has to solve some logic puzzles and do baby level algebra. It's a fucking primo role in the grand scheme of human employment.

Do it 10 years, aggressively invest, enjoy 5 decades of retirement. Easy shit.

>> No.21111491

>>21109217
You tried to retire on $50k of investments and a bit of cash savings? Thats incredibly irresponsible. Come on op, you're putting your make it stack at risk. The longer you stay unemployed the less your stack becomes something you can "afford to lose" and the more it becomes something you "cant afford to sell". Get a job, even if its a shitty part time one for now. If you're only working 15 or 20 hours you might not even feel like youre losing much free time anyway. If you have no commitments your days can kinda run together and feel like you have less time than you actually do. Once you've done that for a few weeks or months, full time work wont feel as daunting.

>> No.21111500

>>21111406
Most of the time at my job was spent fixing code that other retards wrote and being told by even more retarded managers with 0 programming experience to do things the opposite way of how they should be done so they can be finished more quickly and save the company money. I will sooner put a bullet in my head than have go back to that again. Also I did it for like 8 years and I ended up with almost no savings.

>> No.21111533

>>21111387
a worthless failure asset is not the same thing as a scam. Yeah, 99% of coins are absolute shit. Many are scams. I don't think ZCL is a literal scam. It just probably isn't particularly useful.

>> No.21111553

>>21111344
if it doesn't and you have to spend that money, prepare your butthole for the IRS

>> No.21111577

>>21111500
If you don't like a place, put in 2 years, resumemax, and bail for somewhere else that pays more.

If you're actually good enough to consider coworkers and managers retards, you should be smart enough to earn a real salary and save more than 7 fucking grand a year.

>> No.21111614

>>21111577
It's literally how the entire industry is. Not just managers, but even the CEO's and investors are complete fucking braindead retards. I've worked at lots of startups and it was always the exact same thing.

>> No.21111690

>>21111614
You seem to always have a convenient excuse for every idea.

>> No.21111772

>>21111406
shut up, 40 hours a week in front of a computer doing boring shit you dont care about to make other people money blows hard. I know, I do it and I'm gonna keep doing it until I have at least $1.5MM after tax.

>>21111500
Yeah, it fucking sucks. And what makes it suck even more is all the people who act like its such a cool thing to be doing. The hiring managers looking for "code ninjas". Your supervisor who takes your team bowling or whatever every 3 months so you can awkwardly hang out with the people you are already forced to awkwardly hang out with while doing an activity you dont even enjoy. The upper management that flys everyone out to vegas only to make you sit and watch panel discussions for 8 hours a day while the panelists bullshit about something thats not even relevant to what you do. Absolutely love not getting paid to wake up at 4AM to catch a flight to go to this stupid shit I could have just as easily ignored over live stream. It sucks. It could be worse, but it sucks.

But consider the bright side right now. Since youre not in that job, you don't have the momentum anymore. Nothing forcing you to be a dev, though you can always go back if you need to. Why not try to get a job doing something physical outside? Landscaping is hard as fuck work, but fuck dude you wont have to deal with any of that office space bullshit anymore. Maybe do some work as a farm hand. Its backbreaking labor for a pittance, but its rewarding.

>> No.21111886

Have you tried drugs?

>> No.21111898

>>21111614
You may think they're retards but, gosh, their bank accounts tell a different story compared to yours.

>>21111772
>shut up, 40 hours a week in front of a computer doing boring shit you dont care about to make other people money blows hard. I know, I do it and I'm gonna keep doing it until I have at least $1.5MM after tax.
Wow, yeah, it blows hard. Why can't we just do blow and hookers all day instead?

Grow the fuck up and appreciate your blessings.

>> No.21112031

>>21111898
Im gonna be honest, I've done physical jobs (landscaping/farm hand) and Ive done years of development at both good and bad companies. Even development at the best company is 10x more frustrating and less rewarding than physical labor. Its just that development work has better benefits, pay, job security and momentum. But hey, if this dude is already unemployed and would rather kill himself than go back to doing shitty dev work, why not try out working outdoors for a bit? Just telling someone to "shut up and stay in your place" isn't helping.

>> No.21112061

oh also,

>>21111898
>You may think they're retards but, gosh, their bank accounts tell a different story compared to yours.

>if you are rich that means you are smart. i am also very smart

>> No.21112145

>>21109217
You need to change your perception of your life and the world entirely. Do you know why the world sucks? Because you suck. The entire point to our existence on this planet is to grow and awaken. Do you really think this is your first and only life? If so, you have so much more to learn before you even have the psychological understanding to make it.

I used to be like you. I didn't have hope for a future and I blamed my external reality for all of my problems. It was the economy, my parents, my job, my money, my friends (or lackthere of) - it was always something else's fault.

Life isn't just a series of chaotic events. Your emotions and thoughts literally manifest into reality to test your mental fortitude to teach you essential truths. These truths cannot be told, they can only be experienced and understood. You acquire these truths by challenging yourself and pushing yourself to be the best person you can be. Constantly stepping out of your comfort zone and expanding your awareness and raise your vibration.

You will be forced to reincarnate here again and again anon, mark my words. You are being tested, how you respond to the manifestations is your responsibility. Mind over matter.

Continuing your negative feedback loop and expecting your life to change or find meaning will cause nothing but more pain in the next life.

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>>21112145
Golden knowledge

>> No.21112977

>>21111240
feel same way. I left my job as well and doing my own thing. just start your own thing. hire people on upwork.

>> No.21112996

>>21109217
Just do what I do, and get a job working outside with your hands like cannabis farming or carnival work; you'll be healthier in both mind & body, earn enough to live comfortably* and become more inspired to pursue profitable projects. I've lost it all, gotten cash jobs working outside, earned enough to save up a stake, gone to the casino and quintupled my stake, taken that and invested it into some coin or token that moons....

Praise Him and stay true to yourself, for the world is a magical pattern with infinite potential for anyone who laughs off tragedy and then rolls up their sleeves with a grin to begin the next labor, and the next, and so on, for we are His Army, and we must fight the war we have been dropped unasked into by our own wit & grit, arming ourselves in-situ because the world itself is our arsenal.

Go. Rise up and fight for your future, and be not dissuaded by the iniquities of our enemies.

>t. link jesus

>> No.21113097

>>21112145

this guy gets it

>inb4 people call him schizo

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean that its wrong or incorrect

>> No.21113165

>>21112145
This is sage advice that will probably be ignored.

>> No.21113184

All in RMPL before you’re forced to be a wagie again.

>> No.21113290

do ubereats to not burn through money, honestly doesnt feel like work. clear a few hundred a week.

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>>21112996
I cultivate shrooms. Easy money. Just starting off initially the vermiculite and spores were dirt cheap. Pun intended. The low maintenance of them has already given me a cozy life.

>> No.21113695

>>21109217
Bro at least you have a real skill that is needed. I was doing computer science but wasnt focused enough to finish so i settled for an associates degree lol. Still grinding buying up all these coins man. You're further better off than me man, we will make it thru this together. Just have a hodl stack, and then a trade stack.

>> No.21114292

>>21109217
What the hell have you been doing for a year, sitting on your ass? You need side hustles retard, make a SaaS and try to sell it. Or hell learn solidity and try making dapps.

Not being a wageslave doesn't mean you dont have to work

>> No.21114380

>>21109523
>It's just gambling though
So you've done 0 research. Really hope you investigated the cryptos you've staked your life on better.