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>Soon my centralized testnet is going to have staking.. and in a year it will have smart contracts too!!!!
>Keep working lil Chucky.. someday all of your dreams will come true.

In all seriousness anon.. Countless other projectcts have most or all of the features Cardano is working on NOW. This includes sharding, staking, smart contracts, 1 block finality and more. What can Cardano bring to the table except more claims of academic superiority? In the real world this smacks of appeal to authority and translates to nothing but excuses for delays.

How will they launch an as-yet-untested smart contract execution platform on a mainnet that is just about to start becoming decentralized and talk developers into learning a Haskell based language that isn't even finished yet.. in one year?

Explain why anyone, especially muh instiushunz, will use it or trust it with money when it isn't yet proven in the wild. There are countless other battle tested platforms based on languages people already know. There is tons of tooling that exists for these existing development platforms that developers rely on to get things done.

Then explain how >muh functional haskell/plutus language matters for Cardano when it didn't help Tezos at all. Saying "because it is better" is subjective and based on opinion and we all know it doesn't matter in the real world.

Does anyone have any actual answers for these questions? Are there are too many real world hurdles for Cardano to reach its stated goals and/or gain adoption? What is going to stop a coin with all of these issues and an inflated market cap from bleeding out like it did on the last pump to 8 cents?

With no smart contracts it is going to miss the entire DeFi wave and get passed by countless other projects. Prove me wrong.

>inb4 Harmony founder schizo bs
Fuck Harmony.. ie: don't use it as an excuse to sperg out and distract from these issues.

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>>20785655
>>20785412
Why did you delete the previous thread, where you clearly made yourself look like even more of an idiot than what you do in this one?

>> No.20785769

>>20785749
Because you used one mention of a competitor as an excuse to avoid addressing ALL of Cardano's failures.

What is your excuse now?

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>>20785769
>>20785749

>> No.20785817

>>20785655
heavy buy signal

>> No.20785824
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>>20785769
You are a fucking idiot. Charles was the co founder and CEO of Ethereum and was the initial driving force behind Ethers success.

>> No.20785841

>>20785769
Because Charles Hoskinson is in contact with Mollok. Don't you understand? In May of this year he conducted a ritual to the demon Balam, and he has summoned 40 legions of demons to artificially pump the price of Cardano. Through the use of human sacrifice, Charles is making Lucifer's minions do his work by bringing Cardano to never-before envisioned highs. $6.66 EOY

>> No.20785858

>>20785655
It’s going to have the same fate as Tezos. Basically a ghostchain where majority of transactions are comprised of baking/staking rewards. Enterprises already chose ETH, it should be painfully obvious at this point.

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>>20785655
>OBSESSED harmony founder
top fucking KEK

>> No.20785864

>>20785824
holyshit are those all jewish offspring

>> No.20785884

>>20785655
For (You)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MJIrOs5Ij8

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>>20785824
>he got kicked out
>Ethers
So no actual defense for this vaporware.... Is there anyone with a brain that actually supports this scam and can address a single one of these issues?

>> No.20785905

>>20785859
Look in the screen shot that I posted of the thread he deleted he couldn't resist shilling Harmony, he realised his mistake and then deleted it before I could even call him out. freudian slip comes to mind. Bullish for Cardano bearish for Harmony

>> No.20785910 [DELETED] 

>>20785841
This must be it.. unironically.

>>20785859
same excuses as the other fags.. this is the level of

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>>20785891
Your stupidity is never going to make me fold my hand.

>> No.20785943

>>20785655
>guiyyyzzz pls buy harmony instead plsssssss


kek

>> No.20785945

>>20785841
This must be it.. unironically.

>>20785859
>>20785905
So you are too scared of another project to answer a single one of my questions?

>> No.20786022

>>20785945
If anyone is scared it's you. I don't post 1000 posts a day fudding Harmony or create 20 threads a day calling out Steven as a chink
>LOOK HE HAS CHINK EYES

If anybody seems scared it's yourself I don't even post in Harmony threads to me they don't even exist.. Literally who?

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>>20785655
You make valid points that is generally known in the space.

But with these kind of post you attract the Cardano-Hoskinson cultist defending there nonsense.

Lets face it is good for speculation to make some gains and sell. that is the only utility of this shitcoin.

>> No.20786080

>>20786022
>k
So about those issues anon....

>There will be no smart contracts on mainnet for 2 years.
>They have not even finished designing and testing their new "haskell style" smart contract language
>It will almost certainly flop like every other Haskell derived language.
>Many new platforms are already live with blazing performance metrics and everything Cardano is claiming they will deliver(for 4 years)
>Developers have already bought into Solidity and EVM.
>Cardano will be on the sidelines during the entire defi wave.

>> No.20786091

>>20785655
Functional programming is genuinely much, much safer due to sound categories. Any computer scientist will tell you that, and not just the ones with academic credentials. That's not subjective.
I agree with everything else though. OOP is still king everywhere because it's easier to write and it's what everyone knows how to write. Ethereum's dominance is no different.
The only way Cardano could become the standard is if Ethereum suffers another The DAO-scale apocalyptic catastrophe while Cardano is fully functional and viable. I think that would make for a better future in the long term, but it's unlikely it will happen and I'm not putting any of my money on Cardano to hope it does.

>> No.20786094

>>20786053
fair enough.

>> No.20786118

>>20786091
Agreed on the functional programming point.. it just has little relevance in the market it until it is in production, and can be used as a competitive advantage. That seems a long way off but is a plus.

>> No.20786157

>>20785655
All I'm saying is Chainlink and Cardano have been singled out by a literal paid FUD campaign on Twitter. Suddenly these exorbitant FUD posts start popping up on /biz/ shortly after. Either OP has an undying urge to protect anonymous racists' portfolios, or he's a paid shill. Look into it.

>> No.20786185

>>20786157
You are trying to redirect anon.. I want to see if anyone can actually tell me how this project can succeed as anything but a speculative meme. It doesn't sound like you can.

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20786222

I Want to Believe Cardano Bros, but all this Rejection at 15c is killing my High

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Cardano was made to be with us for more than 50 years, bitcoin and your shitcoin will be dead by that time.

>> No.20786269

>>20786222
I can't figure out why it would hold a price when it's going to be dragging ass for 2 years trying to launch shit everyone else already has. Last time it had one of these Shelley-based pamps to 8 cents it fell back under 3 cents shortly after.

>> No.20786274

>>20786080
>There will be no smart contracts on mainnet for 2 years.
"2 years" is a random arbitrary number that you just came up with to deliver a negative message. IOHK has been hitting deadlines on time and there's no reason to believe they can't continue the streak with Goguen.
>They have not even finished designing and testing their new "haskell style" smart contract language
Is it? I got the impression Plutus is fully functioning
>It will almost certainly flop like every other Haskell derived language.
Can you back this claim up?
>Many new platforms are already live with blazing performance metrics and everything Cardano is claiming they will deliver(for 4 years)
We are far too early in the sector to say that Cardano can't catch up and compete with these other blockchains.
>Cardano will be on the sidelines during the entire defi wave.
Defi wave has hardly even begun.

>> No.20786278

>>20786222

$2.22 EOY Confirmed

I Feel Better

>> No.20786289

>>20786222
just sell your bag dude why dont you do it? you are a fake holder, pussy weak hands

>> No.20786315

>>20786241
That is a wonderful dream anon.. but it's not even functional yet beyond a testnet, and there is nothing to support your claim besides hype and talk.

>> No.20786349

>>20786289

Your Talking to a top 3% Holder

These Hands Don't Sell

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renVM but you already knew that

>> No.20786393

>>20785749
kek. stephen is truly melting down now

>> No.20786420

>>20786393
if we keep going for a couple more days he might pop a vein and leave Cardano alone

>> No.20786426

>>20786274
>2 years is a random arbitrary number that you just came up with..
I am being nice. They aren't even in public testing yet and it took then 3 years and a rewind to Rust just to get staking on testnet. Writing a language and a VM from scratch could take these monkeys 10 years at this rate
>hitting deadlines on time
4 years and 40mm for a testnet.. anon.. I..
>Can you back this claim up?(haskell flopping)
How about you give me one example of it working in the 20 times it has been tried.
>We are far too early in the sector to say that Cardano can't catch up and compete with these other blockchains.
Um... ok? non-answer/vague hopium
>Defi wave has hardly even begun.
I mean maybe for you guys but pioneers have been at it for years and it's blowing up without you right now. As I said.. Left out.

>> No.20786474

>>20786420
>>20786393
They can't just address their failing project. They have to redirect and avoid the real questions.. while other projects are leaving them in the dust.

>>20786349
I'd be really worried, but you must have held thru the entire first dump and the second so you are truly devoted. Beyond blind devotion.. how do you deal with these questions? I mean you can act like a tuff guy hodler but you would have lost millions of dollars by now. You are larping.

>> No.20786549

>>20786474

Not bad for me,

I started buying last June.

Then I fell for the Kennedy Meme in January and went fat during the Dip in March.

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>>20786474

>> No.20786580

>>20786556
Even if it was a competitor, which it isn't.. how would that solve Cardano's problems? You are making this project look defenseless anon.

>> No.20786583

>>20786474
NoOoOOooOOOOoO YOU HAVE TO BUY OTHER PROJECTS LIKE HARMONY

>> No.20786607

>>20786556
Answer the questions faggot... unless you can’t.

>>20786583
Cardano bagholders got shit to say

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>>20786607

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>>20786607
I'll ask you another question instead, Stephen. Why do you claim to have founded Spotsetter on your website, when Bloomberg reports that another individual named Dr. Stephen Tse, Ph.D in Mechanical Engineering was the co-founder instead? Is it possible, perhaps, that you're lying on your resume by leeching off another individual with your name?

>> No.20786826

>>20786722
Are you distracting from the conversation about Cardano's failures by repeating a schizo conspiracy theory? Even you know that's bullshit. I guess you agree that these are major issues? I see.. you bought the recent pump so you are having trouble admitting it.
>There will be no smart contracts on mainnet for 2 years.
>They have not even finished designing and testing their new "haskell style" smart contract language
>It will almost certainly flop like every other Haskell derived language.
>Many new platforms are already live with blazing performance metrics and everything Cardano is claiming they will deliver(for 4 years)
>Developers have already bought into Solidity and EVM.
>Cardano will be on the sidelines during the entire defi wave.
Let me know if you come up with any argument supporting the idea that this project can ever succeed in the face of all of these crippling deficiencies.

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>>20786619

>> No.20786860

>>20786722

Please keep it up. Send dildos to his house. Make this faggots life Hell. I fucking hate him. He's so fucking annoying and pathetic.

>> No.20786886

>>20786830
I started the thread and I am discussing it with other users. Can you defend this project at all anon or are you another desperate moonboi looking to distract? read: >>20786826

>> No.20787294

>>20786886
They don’t have shit to support this still undelivered 2017 ICO scam.

>staking soon
top kek

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>>20660077
The Harmony faggot is obsessed with Cardano. Read the thread starting with this post >>20660077
We’re going to war with Chinkoids and that means Harmony too. Trump is going to fuck your Chinky shit up.

>> No.20788235

>>20787346
They actually think Stephen Tse hangs out here. Schizo level delusion. I jsut read that they are friends and Charles wants to work for him after he leaves IOHK this year.

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academic superiority you said?

>> No.20788475

>>20788430
This is as far behind as Cardano isn't it?

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>>20788475
testnet works well, mainnet will launch next month
staking, sharding, EVM compatibility, governance will be available since day 1

>> No.20788709

>>20788630
>will be available since day 1
not sure what this is supposed to mean.. but it sounds like harmony is pretty far ahead.

>> No.20788983

>>20788235
Charles isn't leaving IOG.

>> No.20789006

>>20788983
He is leaving IOHK shortly. Try to keep up anon. This is not new.

>> No.20789038

>>20785824
>>20785749
soiiboy, I fully encourage you to buy ADA. I WANT you to lose money.