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>> No.20679582

First for DowJ 30k EOY

>> No.20679594
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>>20679571
SILJ and GDJX chads report in

>> No.20679604
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Buy silver SLV and silver miner stocks big rally to $30. Woohoo

>> No.20679638
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Anyone shorting Intel right now? Fits the classic head and shoulders pattern.

>> No.20679738

I want to put a buy in really bad at 50 but a lot of people said no wait till 45 so I may just do that and sink like 5K into a short f*** out of it

>> No.20679775

Is this the week the brrrr machine gets repo-ed?

>> No.20679926

>>20679594
All my stocks are red


EXCEPT FOR SILJ

>> No.20679934

>>20679594
looking at the chat, I should have got in on this shit months ago

>> No.20680383
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if you have $10k to fuck around with what would you do with it? I'm thinking of getting 100 shares in something and then just selling covered calls.. not sure what to get though. Maybe TSM or AMD..

>> No.20680463

>>20680383
>>/pmg/

>> No.20680466

>>20680383
An actively managed precious metals mutual fund

>> No.20680486

I should have bought FE on Wednesday... I knew it was a good deal but I fucking hate that company. I let emotions get in the way of a good deal.

>> No.20680575

>>20680383
Too late for and imo

>> No.20680611
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20680611

You didn’t buy stocks on Friday, right, anon?

>> No.20680662

I wonder when or if Tesla will ever go above 1500 again.

>> No.20680663
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>>20680611

>> No.20680698

>>20679638
You really think it's going to go down to March lows? Fuck no. Besides, the head and shoulders pattern is complete with that massive dip.

>> No.20680746
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Insiders know.

>> No.20680954

>>20680663
Earnings will crash the market no matter how good they are

>> No.20681034

>>20680954
I heard that last week

>> No.20681056

>>20680746
Based on this graph, we have two months till we test the lows.

>> No.20681151

>>20681034
>>20681056
> ID has TA
Trust this anon. There is still time left before the end.

>> No.20681271

>>20680611
Why do you think we are gonna keep dropping?

>> No.20681330

>>20680611
>taking financial advice from a woman
tell me more

>> No.20681352

>>20680746
Spoonfeed me the information I should have derived from looking at this graph

>> No.20681367
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>>20679604
>>20679594

This train has no brakes

>> No.20681569
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>>20679571
I found that generally my third world country has the same movement as America just 1 day ahead. Anyway, if anyone is interested, my country's Miners all reached the top at friday . If the same happens in America, then consider me a prophet

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>>20681569
>my third world country
Australia?

>> No.20681708

>>20680611
>that headline
Who the fuck hires these people

>> No.20681757
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>>20679594
SILJ chad here. Here’s to another 10% this week

>> No.20681791

>>20680611
Will trumpbux help or hurt SILJ?

>> No.20681829
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>>20680611
Imagine if this paper's headline was "Here comes one of the newsiest and most critical wars of the century for the United States and Japan"

>> No.20681872

>>20681829
Is it really necessary to say Japanese planes? they could be any planes, putting japanese in the title just seems like race baiting.

>> No.20681881

Where my DENN bros @?

>> No.20681968

>>20680954
>o goy! Visa! ATH! Amazon! ATH!!!

>> No.20681972
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20681972

SNSS chads report in. nobody did it better than us on friday.

>> No.20682017

>>20681972
How much is SNSS anon down? Like 80%?

>> No.20682023
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20682023

we going green on monday mark this

>> No.20682026

>>20679571
buy MO

collect 8% div. and maybe the stock goes higher over the next 2 years

>> No.20682029

No.
Monday is rally day.
And big greens all week.

>> No.20682069

>>20681872
Started to kek.
Then got depressed.

That's how they write about China, currently.

>> No.20682099

>>20682029
You think AMD and TSM will keep climbing immediately or will there be some pullback at AMD's earnings? I bagged some INTC on friday and would like to have the other too.

>> No.20682112

>>20682029
You jinxed it. It's going to be big red dildos plunging straight into you bunghole on an expedition to your colon all week long and, especially for TQQQ.

>> No.20682139

>>20682017
i'm not him but i think his average is somewhere in the mid to low 50s, I could be wrong. So he's pretty much in the black

>> No.20682173

if you guys think intel will go back to march lows you guys are absolutely insane

>> No.20682281

>>20682139
>So he's pretty much in the black
No, that means he literally lost money on it despite holding it for like two years and now you're trying to talk people into a similar situation.

Keep bag holding, SNSS is down 60.42% in one year. 99.8% since 2006. Soon you won't have to shill it here because it will be worth $0.00

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>>20682173
I don't think Intel will go back to the March lows but I want them to.

>> No.20682336

>>20679594
comfy as fuck sitting in miners having green across the board while the market continues flailing about

>> No.20682375
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20682375

Market shook off all the weak hands going into the major tech earnings on Thursday/Friday. Additionally the selloff puts pressure on Washington to get the stimulus passed before August recess (which Nancy will not cancel).

Thursday dip on TQQQ was perfect. AAPL will also be 400 soon. NVDA will be at 450.

>> No.20682403

>>20680611
>Listening to a woman
Id rather be poor.
>>20682281
I should start putting any pennystocks under $5 in a filter.
Or at least the one-product-do-or-die bioshits.

>> No.20682458

>>20680663
Too late to short Harley?
They have a good new ceo, but it is still dying.

>> No.20682511

>>20680663
Wednesday will make or break my month.
MA reporting before and PYPL reporting after. Both good long term holds naturally, but I hope we dont dump too hard.

>> No.20682653
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>>20679594

>> No.20682783
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>>20679594
why yes I am long miners short tech how did you know?

>> No.20682981
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>>20682375
>Market shook off all the weak hands going into the major tech earnings on Thursday/Friday. Additionally the selloff puts pressure on Washington to get the stimulus passed before August recess (which Nancy will not cancel).
>Thursday dip on TQQQ was perfect. AAPL will also be 400 soon. NVDA will be at 450.

Cope more

>> No.20683055

TSM chads

has anyone found any updates to the Apple-TSM thing?
https://fortune.com/2020/06/22/taiwan-semiconductors-apple-contract-huawei/?fbclid=IwAR0aR1HS7VzB4mAwMuETAytsUU8pEBi1eyQ7E6ugquMRnsfV3lgmAg35Tss
We already know that TSM has definitely filled up the lost capacity from Huawei, and the remainder they can still do business with Huawei until the end of August.

I'm wondering if we should be watching out for Apple earnings date (July 30) as well.

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>>20680663
Looking at getting NEM stock as early in the week as possible. Looking at their chart there is no way the price doesn’t go up after earnings. I wish I had got into miners earlier.

>> No.20683278

Why is stocktwits full of delusional bulls for every ticker?

>> No.20683306
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20683306

Weekend /smg/ is comfy and usually where I find all my leads. Posting during the week is just for shitposting and calling anime posters fags.

>> No.20683347

>The Japanese government is planning to offer a total of several billion dollars to overseas chipmakers joining the project over the following few years, the Yomiuri Daily reported, without citing sources. The report gave no timeline for the project.
>TSMC has not yet responded to Caixin’s request for comment.
>4 days ago
https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-07-20/apple-supplier-tsmc-invited-by-japan-to-build-joint-chip-plant-report-101582118.html

more speculation potential on TSM. Now Japan wants TSM to build their plant in Japan, might encourage US to finally make a decision on TSM's planned Arizona plant

>> No.20683437

TSLA back to 1500

>> No.20683454

>>20683278
Why wouldn't it be? Bulls have always been the majority of traders and bag holders because of the inherent disadvantages of short selling. The average person on these sites is always going to be some retard who thinks their stock will go up if they shill it, regardless of the market cap.

>> No.20683469
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>>20683306
Rude

>> No.20683492

>>20683437
TSLA back to 1,794.99.
>>20683469
Fag

>> No.20683551
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20683551

I'm back and I promise to not post bunny again

>> No.20683586
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what are we buying on Monday?

>> No.20683628
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>>20683586
Im only writing some covered calls and maybe a put on TQQQ if Im feeling like it.
Depends on the open really. Green open and I will write, red open and I wont.

I only really see us open green though. Pow will pump us.

>> No.20683646

>>20683628
are GDX and GDXJ still in the menu?

>> No.20683688

>>20683646
I have so much physical gold another gold exposure would be unwise desu.

>> No.20683711

>>20682281
He bought this almost exactly a year ago. That's when he started posting here. He's slightly green on his snss after averaging down. This lucky faggot made a ton on GENE though.

>> No.20683904

tesla is going to 1850 next week
load up

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*inhales vape*

>> No.20684113
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20684113

a reminder that you're nothing and these small dips don't matter

>> No.20684135

>>20684113
now show what happens in a different decade

>> No.20684171

>>20680663
Harley Davidson I am buying puts

>> No.20684185

>>20684135
your initial investment is worth even more? did you have a brain fart here or something

>> No.20684354

>>20684185
show it

>> No.20684453

>>20684113
and which portfolios were those

>> No.20684490

>>20684354
you could just go on google.com and type "spy stock"...
>>20684453
read file name

>> No.20684510

>>20684135
>>20684354
What you are asking for is impossible, TQQQ didn't exist last decade.

>> No.20684523
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im gonna make it
tax man can't touch me

>> No.20684549

>>20684113
what software/website is this?

>> No.20684563
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20684563

What's your excuse for not owning any nickel?

Don't you know the party's only just getting started?

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20684566

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I THINK J SOLD TOO KUCH STOCCKKKKKKSSSSS!!!!

>>20683551
Kek jannies are gays.

>>20683628
Still can’t bring myself to watch the new FLCLs. Just know it won’t be the same and just gonna be a cash grab.

>> No.20684577

>>20684549
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/backtest-portfolio

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>>20684566
The new ones were... ok.
Not really great though

>> No.20684643
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Post em.

>> No.20684696

>>20684563
>What's your excuse for not owning any nickel?
There's no definitive winner for battery technology yet and some don't require any nickel like lithium iron phosphate batteries which have really taken off in China. That said, Tesla mentioned they need more nickel so presumably they're going to use it in some of their new batteries but probably only the ones that need a very high energy density. Lower range models can get away with LFP.

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>>20684643
Do I have to?

>> No.20684730

>Buy bunch of boomer company stock and set it to DRIP
>Fly a spaceship at relativistic speed to alpha centauri and back
>140 earth years have passed and you're a multitrillionaire

If it were technically possible, would it be legal?

>> No.20684770

>>20682458
Dying boomer company, certainly havent sold many motorcycles during covid. Im planning to buy puts into earnings

>> No.20684798

I'm honestly in really bad positions and I can't wait to exit them first thing on Monday

>> No.20684808

>>20684730
>under performing SPY
are you stupid

>> No.20684826

I wanna learn stock trading in 24 hours, give me learning material.

>> No.20684859

>>20684798
What are you in? My largest position is SHLL which is taking a real beating

>> No.20684860

>>20684826
ngmi

>> No.20684867
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This is it, guys.
Embrace.... the end.

>> No.20684885

>>20684490
o.

>> No.20684893

>>20684696
You're living in a fantasy land if you think battery chemistry is going to substantially change in the next decade.

It's incredibly hard to create new, marketable battery chemistry. The chinks have a much lower threshold for what they find acceptable in their battery quality. No western company is going to use lithium iron phosphate.

Tesla talks a big game about eliminating cobalt or some other component of battery technology, but then they turn around and sign huge cobalt contracts with Glencore or beg for higher nickel production.

You know why? Because battery chemistry ain't changing.

>> No.20684904

>>20684867
the end of anyone holding cash

>> No.20684917

WAS I SUPPOSED TO BUY AMD?

YOU ALL SAID TO BUY INTEL OR I WAS AN IDIOT

>> No.20684929

>>20684859
29 MSFT 210c @8/7, 2.04 / contract
100 NAK, I exited most of my position yesterday but I went all in on Thursday
25237 INPX, some meme stock that was shilled on reddit on Thursday as possibly having a catalyst but reading more about it, it probably doesn't.

>> No.20684937

>>20684904
It won't be that easy but cash hodlers are certainly choosing hard mode.

>> No.20684951

>>20684917
Yes, you're supposed to do the opposite of /smg/, everybody knows that

>> No.20684972

>>20684729
Jesus fucking christ

>> No.20684979

>>20684510
>What you are asking for is impossible

It would be easy enough to simulate the returns of TQQQ over the period from 2000 to 2010, using the NASDAQ 100 as its baseline.

I'll help you out: it would have become a worthless penny stock and the following decade might have ended up bringing it above the $1 range.

>> No.20684982

>>20684729
I wonder if REFR anon is still bagholding his 140K shares of KTOV that he bought at $1.20

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>>20684867
>Cheaper dollar makes it cheaper to buy US stocks
>Stocks still crab
That should be worrying desu

>> No.20684994

>>20684729
Shill me on clis. If that shit moons you wont ever have to work again.

>> No.20685008

>>20684979
kinda wrong. if tqqq existed as it does now back then, it wouldn't hold fictional absolute garbage like "pets.com"

>> No.20685013

>>20684860
I bet in 2 years I will be rich and you still will be a poor loser

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>>20684643

>> No.20685027
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>>20684354
>>20684510
>>20685008
Everyone should see this before investing in leveraged ETFs desu

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20685046

When are burgers start getting evicted? people are saying they losing their $6hundies

>> No.20685094

>>20685013
You really just need to research companies that have good potential and throw a bit into them. When I started I was only putting 1k into any given stock.

But you missed the best learning time, right when corona ranked everything. It was hard to mess up if you just held.

Try to avoid daytrading. Just hold. You have a trade limit if you are under 25k anyway.

Do t be scared of dips. You should position yourself so you bought in so low the dips dont matter.

>> No.20685116

>>20685024
Based. Is should have done this with eman instead of picking like 5 different stocks. All in ine

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>>20685027
NOOOOOOO You can't shit talk my soxl and spxl you fucking brainlet muh leverage optimisation. Volatility equals gains you fucktard. Do you not know that? What the fuck is beta?

>> No.20685140

>>20684729
LAST CHANCE TO BUY KTOV UNDER $1
LAST CHANCE TO BUY KTOV UNDER $1
LAST CHANCE TO BUY KTOV UNDER $1

>> No.20685155

>>20685140
Reverse split?

>> No.20685168

>>20684917
you fucking liar
no one was shilling intel before it dropped hard

>> No.20685175

>>20683454
>always going to be some retard
the smart ones will be right and make a fortune

>> No.20685193

Cup and handle is best girl

>> No.20685212

ARE YA BUYIN THE DIP, SON?

>> No.20685220

>>20684988
nah it's fine
we knew this was coming

>> No.20685248

>>20684730
Sure it would be legal but the cost of travel may outweigh anything you gain. The problem is that 140 years is too long, a lot of the companies you select may not be around when you get back. Even the indexes may end up getting replaced by something else by then. The other problem is that if we had the technology to do that, we would probably be post scarcity and having a lot of money wouldn't matter.
>>20684893
You're exceptionally ignorant on this subject. Cathode materials are constantly changing and there's thousands of different combinations. Tesla just patented some that don't have nickel. Most of the batteries in electric cars don't use nickel, they're usually LMO batteries. Tesla is one of the few companies that used NCA which is mostly nickel for the cathode. You cellphone is probably mostly cobalt for its cathode. Energy storage products like powerwalls and megapacks don't need to use much nickel if any because energy density isn't that big of a concern for stationary objects.
>No western company is going to use lithium iron phosphate.
Tesla is doing just that.
>sign huge cobalt contracts with Glencore
Cobalt is used stop battery degradation, that's completely different than using something for energy density. We are talking about less than 15% of the NCA cathode being cobalt, that's barely anything by weight. They need large contracts because the sheer number of batteries that are being produced, it doesn't mean cobalt is that good of an investment. Tesla asked for more nickel supply because they don't want to pay high prices for the stuff that they use, not because they don't think they can secure any in the future.
>>20684979
If it's easy enough to simulate, why don't you do it and post the results here?

>> No.20685250

>>20685116
Diversification is for the big bois.

If you're not working with $100k+ in your port you don't need diversification (and then the real red pill is that your diversification ends up being in $10k increments anyway so you're pulling in sick gains either way)

>> No.20685263

>>20685008

TQQQ merely aims to achieve 3x the daily return of the Nasdaq 100. It's not about what it contains or doesn't contain. It's not an index fund. It tracks and amplifies another index.

I foolishly bought into the TQQQ lows on Thursday and Friday, thinking we'd get another quick run-up as we have been for the last few months. This time it looks like things are different. Apple and Microsoft have lost steam, the narrative is already shifting away from tech as a hedge, earnings are likely to roil the Nasdaq further, and for the first time since March TQQQ has seen a dip below its previous dip.

My only hope is that NDX doesn't open more than 1 or 2% down, but it could. I have no doubt it'll be a red open. If I can sell at open around 99-100 I'll only lose about $650, and after further downtrends I can reinvest my recovered money into actual stocks.

>> No.20685276

>>20685212
what dip
i was hoping to average up on TSM but it never fuckied dipped for me to have an obvious time to increase my position on it
next thing you know it's going to be $90 EoY whenever US or Japan subsidy news come rolling in

>> No.20685285

>>20685248
>If it's easy enough to simulate, why don't you do it and post the results here?

Somebody already did: >>20685027

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Will anything become of this?

>> No.20685298

>>20685027
Now start it after the Dot Com burst. QQQ PEs are not 120 like during the bubble, there's a near zero percent chance of it dropping 80%.

>> No.20685316

>>20685276
Don't worry when the "three gorges" dam eventually collapses you'll get your dip.

>> No.20685345

>>20685250
>Diversification is for the big bois.
I remember a guy whose stocktwits line was "Diversification is for people who don't know what they're doing". He once lost 200k in a single day.
Spread out your money over 5-10 picks. If you can't find that much you should probably learn more before you bet serious money.

>> No.20685370

>>20685248
You're the one who's ignorant, but that's neither here nor there.

Patents don't mean shit. It's what is being put into production. You know how patents are owned and never used? Many.

>Tesla is doing just that.
Yeah, in China. Get back to me when a western company is selling that lithium iron phosphate shit to western consumers. Not gonna happen.

In addition, Tesla can only lock down the supply of nickel. They can't insulate against a price spike. Energy density is one of the primary concerns for western consumers for their EVs. Nickel is not going any where any time soon.

>> No.20685400

>>20685263
an index that no longer contains garbage and won't see another 2000 unless the entire market collapses anyway so you're fucked tqqq or not

>> No.20685413

>>20685345
>Spread out your money over 5-10 picks

That's a decent amount. I take the quote about diversification to mean diversifying into 50 different stocks and spreading yourself so thin you're basically a maladjusted S&P 500.

>> No.20685422
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>>20680663
The virgin Harley vs the chad triumph

>> No.20685444
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20685444

>>20685422
>British Automobiles

>> No.20685452

>>20685345
Yeah and I remember when Buffet and Munger talked about how in their early days they all-ined on one quality stock and rode it to riches.

Dumping $200k into a single stock is retarded unless you're working with a billion dollars and at that point you aren't buying common shares off the open market.

I don't base my success or failure on the actions of retards.

>> No.20685478

>>20680663
Aphria might be an interesting play, they should beat earnings.

>> No.20685499

>>20685345
honestly if you're a zoomer you have no excuse not to have the better tech picks than 99% of boomers.
like i know someone whose entire portfolio is composed entirely of TSM and AMD before March even happened, it's a buy and forget portfolio and his portfolio's worth around $130K by now after the pumps and he'll just keep holding brainlessly for several years until he needs the money.
just fucking pick long-term corona-proof companies and forget about it for 3 years. Leave 10% for gambling shit if you have an addiction you need to sate.

also don't forget to buy a house when real estate dips if unemployment continues.

>> No.20685513

>>20685400

If the tech bubble really is "popping" now, that'll probably mean a 10-20% downtrend. It won't be the dot com bust, but it'll be significant.

TQQQ will correspondingly drop somewhere in the neighborhood of 30-60% (depending on the daily progression of the drop). You would need another rally like the entire pandemic "recovery" rally to bring it back up to levels approximating where it is now. Unlikely to happen if tech alone slumps while people start rotating into other sectors.

Tech isn't a bad sector, and most tech companies are financially iron-clad. That doesn't mean their stocks are due to rally for another 10 years, or even another 1 year. They're already seeing significant pushback and volatility.

>> No.20685515

>>20685444
I'm not going to sit here and pretend Harley's are reliable or anything. Hell, most aren't even made in the US anymore. They are assembled in the US, but nearly all the parts are made in China or Mexico.

Still miles better than anything Britain has ever made.

>> No.20685531

What companies allow me to profit from the imminent mental illness epidemic that will happen because of neurotypicals not going to a party every week?

>> No.20685555

>>20685531

Oh hey, is it March again? Did we just start the shutdown last week?

>> No.20685598

>>20685555
Myopics should not respond to my post. Thank you

>> No.20685601

>>20684994
It's just a small Android gaming company about to release a beta and then the game. Each time they release they go up to the .2 range, so it'll be a 3x 6-week play or so. I put $500 in for shits.

>> No.20685612

>>20685513
already popped in march then we realized it had no reason to and everyone panic bought cheapies back to new ATH

>> No.20685636
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>>20679594
SILJ, MUX, and AAAU chad reporting.

>> No.20685639

>>20685598

Neurotypicals are too busy ignoring the stay at home bullshit and are instead out partying and fucking each other's brains out, but I can see how living in your bedroom would give you the impression that everybody else is too.

>> No.20685648

>>20685370
It's not just their patents, Tesla has been acquiring companies to help produce batteries that have new chemistries. Their head of battery research invented a whole new type of cathode that they're going to be using, Elon has basically stated this. It's unlikely that Tesla will be able to produce enough batteries for their cars and they'll have to buy them from other manufacturers, most of which do not use nickel.
>Get back to me when a western company is selling that lithium iron phosphate shit to western consumers.
You're all over the place. Most electric car batteries don't use nickel so it doesn't matter if they switch to LFP. LFP actually makes for a really good battery because of how stable the chemistry is.
>Tesla can only lock down the supply of nickel. They can't insulate against a price spike.
Locking down supply is insulating against price spikes. Nickel spikes because of sudden demand, the more production the stable the price. This is why Elon said that they'll give contracts to nickel producers which benefits them both because Tesla will get a stable supply at a fixed cost and the producers can mine without worrying about if demand is going to collapse.

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20685652

>>20685515
What is mcleren

>> No.20685672
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20685672

>>20684643
$14k -> $159k -> $4

>> No.20685696

>>20685652
Could have sworn they were a US company

>> No.20685715

>>20685672
I'm assuming options? Always sell that shit when you're green anon.

>> No.20685719

>>20685672

Kept buying calls into crab season?

>> No.20685722

>>20685478
Might pick some up to write covered calls on their earnings. What makes you confident in them, anon?

>> No.20685749

>>20685478
>weed stocks
they're still incredibly overvalued for what are essentially agriculture companies.
the fact that Aphria is actually among the best performing (yet is just making really shit income for a 2 billion market cap company) should be telling you steer away from the weed sector. The rest of weed stocks still cannot even break even a couple years after legalization.

>> No.20685756

>>20685672
saw that post on WSB, this is why i don't fuck with options

>> No.20685787
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20685787

It's going back to $1000 in two months.

>> No.20685798

>>20685756
Now try that with borrowed money. People do that all the time and sometimes lose 1700%

>> No.20685817

>>20685787
it's not going down until maximum amount of shortcucks get their balls crushed by whoever is manipulating this piece of shit
after each dump, it shoots even higher, so 1850 next week

>> No.20685826

>>20685787
desu anything above $750 is still overvalued but Tesla is a meme

>> No.20685835

>>20685672
Tesla options went ITM then OTM and expired?

>> No.20685856

>>20685817
>1850 next week

total bull delusion, and this is coming from a permabull continues to buy calls and buys every dip then sells when it goes lower fellow delusional bull

>> No.20685858

>>20685648
Again, it's mostly hopes that they'll be able to switch away from current tech. Maybe one day. Not today, not tomorrow, and not within the next ten years. By that time the nickel play will be done. On to the next thing.

I fail to see how restating what I already said is being "all over the place". The only place where Lithium Iron Phosphate is used is China. Tesla sells that in China. Neither Tesla nor any other manufacturer selling to a western consumer is going to use that battery chemistry.

Demand is going to go up regardless of Tesla locking the supply down or not. Nickel is used in stainless steel production, which will also rise and other manufacturers will be producing batteries. Nickel is currently in a structural supply deficit. You can't just " switch on" a nickel mine. You need around 7 years and $2 billion USD. The growing demand is going to meet a deficient supply and the price will spike.

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20685884

if MSFT doesn't hit 220 by eow I'm BLOWING MY BRAINS OUT

>> No.20685893

>>20685749
Because most of those companies are run by completely incompetent people. They know how to plant some seeds and which lights to use in their warehouse, but don’t know shit about operating a business successfully.

>> No.20685905

>>20685756
Options are great. You can improve your safety by hedging with little money or get some extra with covered calls or writing naked puts. Or gamble with a a hundred dollars on an AMZN earnings if you want.

Just dont go balls deep into margin or write naked calls.
Done right any option strategy should, worst case, leave you with 0 dollars, not -14k. Even in case the market collapses and ravenous hives of [THEM] finally break free and hunt us for brain juice.

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20685911

>>20685884
It's going back down to 190.

>> No.20685913

>>20685884

It isn't, sell before your calls drop to 0.01, take it from someone who held calls after the last big drop and didn't cut his losses

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>>20685884
Took me three minutes.

>> No.20685929

>>20685856
i think the real delusion is thinking they will let shorters win this

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20685933

>>20684643
Doing OK since the crash. I was barely keeping up with SPY before that, lost a lot of money on options plays I didn't really understand, also getting completely fucked in 2019 by the trade war bullshit

>> No.20685941

>>20685918
Pic related was me at some point.

>> No.20685946

>>20685905
Never gamble with someone else’s money. If I’m going to do something retarded like go to the blackjack table, I’m going to bring cash.

>> No.20685999

>>20685946
??????

>> No.20686009

>>20685929

It isn't either/or. It's not going to 1850 any time soon. Could crab around 1450-1500 for a while.

>> No.20686013

>>20685884
MSFT is at a dip buy right now

>> No.20686031

>>20685913
Same, I had some $63 AMD calls expire worthless in feb, lost $10K. That was fucking horrible.

>> No.20686046

>>20685946
>If I’m going to do something retarded like go to the blackjack table, I’m going to bring cash.
I mean...
Buying options doesnt require margin or anything. The risk is basically your money. You cant go lower than 0.

Writing options isnt gambling unless youre retarded.

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20686047

>>20685345
Do you know about the boy who cried HAPPENING?

>>20685250
Diversification = spreading out risk
When you’re rich you really only have to worry about keeping your money and protecting its value, so you put it into all sorts of different asset classes and diversify within those asset classes. So stocks of all sorts, private debt of all sorts, government Us and international, core infrastructure, art, wine, PM’s, etc.

>>20685531
Booze. But we missed the SAM bull run already.

>> No.20686061

>>20686009
>It's not going to 1850 any time soon.
you might want to zoom out

>> No.20686066

>>20686047
no

>> No.20686085

>>20685893
i agree that aphria is the best among the bunch, but do you believe their market cap is justified? The hype is over. The real money will be when companies can actually start branding their own drinks/edibles .etc, but these won't be the growers themselves. Like there's a reason tobacco and beer companies don't actually grow their own shit, margins are shit for the actual agriculture aspect especially with all the taxes that Canada continues to impose.

the funniest thing is that Canopy will probably continue to be the king of weed stocks no matter how big of a dumpsterfire it is just because it's the first thing that pops up when you google weed stock

>> No.20686100

>>20686031

>>20685905 is essentially right. It's easy to not lose that much money on options if you just cut your FUCKING losses when you're supposed to! Going in without an exit strategy and completely refusing to believe the market was tanking while I watched MSFT drop 10 points was irredeemable idiocy. Really inexcusable to let yourself get fucked like that. I've cut losses before and it feels way better to just get some of your money back than to hold like a retard and watch it all evaporate.

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20686153

Based on the volume MSFT could go back down to about 185.

>> No.20686159

>>20684917
AMD is making way better gaming stuff now, I bought gaming laptop the other day, the GeForce crap can't compete with Amd Radeomln on a bang for your buck level. The mid range Radeon is as good as the lower upper tier GeForce shit.

>> No.20686210

>>20686153
If the volume is drying up, that means most of the selling is done.

>> No.20686236

>>20685858
Just admit you're relying on Tesla to continually use nickel based cathodes to justify any investment in the industry, although you may not have even known that most other electric cars don't use nickel before this conversation. The first thing I said was that their new chemistry would also probably use nickel but that doesn't mean you're not just speculating based on what a single company is doing.

We don't know how many LFP batteries are being used outside of China, we just know there isn't any real issues with them. Automakers are battery constrained, they'll use whatever they can get and most likely that will be LFP from companies like CATL. This is where battery producers have decided to go, what you personally think about these batteries doesn't matter.
>Nickel is used in stainless steel production
If stainless steel production has been substantially increasing demand for nickel, why are prices a fraction of what they were in 2006? The price is tied to speculation as much as demand. Nickel price is already too high compared to other metals that can be used in batteries, if it goes much higher it kills the use case for them because it isn't necessary unless you want to produce a specific battery chemistry.

>> No.20686271

>>20685027
You really need to start the simulation in 1989 as well to give a perspective.

>> No.20686288

What's the play for next week? Short SOXL?

>> No.20686305

>>20679571
what?

>> No.20686375

GLD is the new SPY, NASDUMP is heading for the garbage bin next week. Fuck Facebook fuck tech and fuck the jannies

>> No.20686383

I just want to be rich, what do I do? I don't mind waiting like 2 years, but any more than that and you can fuck off

>> No.20686401

>>20686383
What do you need to be rich? 4x your investment???

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20686402

>RhoVac

>> No.20686404

>>20685905
I've only done my DD in the semiconductor sector and MSFT/AAPL. I want to buy Jan 2021 calls. Got any advice for a retarded beginner?

>> No.20686416

>>20686159
all of that has already been priced in over the last 5 years dipshit
TSLA & AMD are both going to the gutters

>> No.20686433

>>20686236
I'm not relying on shit and it would be nice if you stuck to facts instead of thinly veiled ad hominems.

You call me ignorant but are unaware that you're just straight up wrong. There are plenty of nickel heavy battery chemistries in production right now, even in China. NCM 8-1-1 makes up almost a fifth of all the EV batteries in China alone. There's a lot more going on in the battery space than what you're letting on. Much of it includes nickel.

Everything floated on a market is tied to speculation. The prices are low because there was a decade long supply glut. This led to a decade of under investment in mining projects. There is a stark supply and demand mismatch brewing. It takes almost a decade to get a new mining project up and running. This won't be fixed in the short term. Demand will out pace supply for at least the next two decades.

EV battery production is going to require more nickel. General industry is going to require more nickel. Nickel is going to be a sleeper play. Mostly because of people like you who reflexively dismiss it based on a flawed understanding of the market.

>> No.20686454

>>20686401
I need a x40

My plan is oil, silver miners and semiconductors over the next few years, currently looking at leveraged ETFs

>> No.20686462

I love PSTH. All the drama, the memes, the community surrounding it, it's really something. But what I love most about it is knowing that in couple years I will be a billionaire. It's not even a 99% chance, it is quite literally guaranteed. As a result of that knowledge, I stopped showering and brushing my teeth over a year ago. There is simply no reason for me to do it when I know I'll be rich. I will be fucking whores every night and laughing as they're throwing up from my disgusting, stinky body and mouth. As they kiss me on my rotten teeth, or suck my dirty, 2 year unwashed hog. It will be quite something. In fact I am already seeing effects of my stinky adventure. Yesterday I went to a shop to buy some cheese and make a stop at McD's for a big mac and the cashier at the store was visibly gagging at the smell of me and trying to hide it. Other customers were standing like 5 meters behind me. It was truly hilarious. And none of them have any idea of my guaranteed, future riches. They must already be so jealous of me. The stinkiest billionaire ever.

>> No.20686474

>>20686454
>x40
>My plan is oil
Oh boy

>> No.20686480

I need another stock to buy a bunch of. I'm mostly in AYX, RTX, and CARR for now. All except for RTX have been great. I'm thinking of dollar cost averaging the ETF VOO but I have a feeling it's all going to crash soon. People will soon be evicted, homes will be foreclosed, and the vaccine will be delayed.

>> No.20686490

>>20686375
>>20679604

Just a friendly warning, SLV and GLD are banker-controlled scams. They will get delisted soon. Only buy the mining ETFs, SILJ and GDXJ. I agree though, GDXJ will be the next SPY.

>> No.20686503

>>20686454
>silver miners
This is ok. Drop the rest

>> No.20686505

Lol, Facebook looking bad, definitely sold FB shares and bought puts. They have another class-action coming their way, on top of the ad boycott. Feminazis done this social media business dirty this time. People got nothing to do during pandemic but to start shit.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/montreal-law-firm-aims-to-sue-facebook-for-not-policing-its-content

https://ca.topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/anonymous-facebook-list-causes-class-action-lawsuit/

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-man-seeks-class-action-against-facebook-amid-wave-of-online-sexual-misconduct-denunciations-1.5034594?cache=piqndqvkh

https://thelogic.co/briefing/quebecer-seeks-class-action-lawsuit-against-facebook-for-anonymous-sexual-misconduct-allegations/

>> No.20686517

Was it stupid to buy disney? Except for a big pump and drop, it has been stagnant for the last 5 years. Then they cut their dividends not long after I bought. Should I just sell it as soon as Mulan releases and China hopefully goes apeshit

>> No.20686540

>>20686454
>My plan is oil
>40x
do you even know where to check for current oil price retard? and if so why didn't you check where oil is at now and where it was before? how in the fuck are you going to 40x this???

>> No.20686541

>>20686490
Proof?

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>>20684979
From 1987-2017 TQQQ would have beaten the s&p500, including the dotcom bust and a 99.9% drawdown during the GFC.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4121068-best-3x-leveraged-etf

>> No.20686547

>>20686159
>gaming stuff
stop

if you're holding AMD right now, at least understand what's so good about AMD. The consumer shit is not the reason why people are speculating so hard into it. It's the server market share they're positioned to steal from Intel. This is assuming Intel keeps fucking around and doesn't stop being a stubborn piece of shit that they continue to be throughout the entire decade.
they need to beg Jim Keller to come back or partner up with a decent third-party because right now their next 4 years look like absolute shit. What AMD can achieve in those 4 years should be terrifying to anyone holding Intel right now.

that said I wouldn't hold AMD because their valuation is being speculated almost as hard as the weed sector was. This is why I shill TSM instead

>> No.20686585

What is the preferred method of buying shitcoins like XRP?
I'm looking into bitbuy and want a secure way to hold for 5 years.

t. Leaf

>> No.20686588

If I want to trade stocks every week or so how would I do that? I dont want to do any real TA. Would I trade on news?

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20686594

Don't worry, in this parody you live, since march 549 billion was added to the richest peoples wallets. A number too large to comprehend. While most get poorer, evicted or lose jobs all together. Watch those numbers get bigger while grandpa dies alone in a hospital kek

>> No.20686616

>>20686588
with this kind of question, just don't even bother. seriously. you're not made for this
just buy a fund like SPY or TQQQ and don't look at it too often

>> No.20686631

So let me get this straight. People that don't use robinhood have to pay a fee every time they buy or sell stock? What is the advantage to not using robinhood?

>> No.20686648

>>20686631
Fees used to be a thing but basically every broker has dropped them because of robinhood

>> No.20686654

>>20686547
Do I FOMO into TSM first thing on Monday or do I wait for a dip?

>> No.20686665

>>20686588
TA doesnt mean shit during clown market
just buy shit with good fundamentals and forget about them for at least a year.

otherwise, just lurk /smg/ for the next pump and dump and gamble every week on that if you just have a gamblnig addiction. If that's not enough, go do options

>> No.20686676

>>20686631
there isn't any, people just like to be contrarian and shit on things they misunderstand
>>20686654
where would there be a dip
are you going to wait on missing out on +20% gains just to buy a -5% dip?

>> No.20686699

>>20686654
It jumped tremendously on Friday. I suggest waiting for a pullback.

>> No.20686704

>>20686404
You might as well just buy 2022 calls. The premiums are probably almost the same.
I you want try PMCC, poor mans covered calls.

>> No.20686706

>>20686631
Just boomers. The interface for Fidelity and ETrade are both godawful, too. I'd rather use Robinhood.

>> No.20686718
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20686718

I have 67 shares of SILJ and im looking to expand my mining stocks. Looking at EXK, IAG, and AUY, might also pick up some NEM, their earnings come out this thursday i think.

>> No.20686721

Grimes and elon are no longer following each other on Twitter. Elon confirmed for darth vader, whatever his sons name is confirmed for Luke skywalker.

>> No.20686727

>>20686616
Im just wondering what kind of things to look for. Im not sure TA would mean anything and I dont want to vaguely guess if a stock will go up or down in a week. How long does an undervalued stock, like tsm was, go unnoticed?

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20686735

>>20686544

The dotcom bust would have brought it from like 7 or 8 million back below the initial investment of $10,000. It would have then gotten up to about $500,000 between the post-dot com bottom and now.

What this should tell you is that TQQQ does not recover through real crashes. This year it barely recovered to its earlier highs as the Nasdaq 100 went way higher.

>> No.20686736

>>20686631
I use Tasytworks. I pay $1 for opening options.
Thats it. Stocks and closing is free.

>> No.20686743

>>20686490
Yes I'm aware, I doubt they'll be delisted but they are sketchy as hell. I have the jr indexes as well as the individual stocks like a true Chad.

>>20686631
Robinhood tends to go down during extreme market volatility, but otherwise it's good and not nearly as bad as everyone claims. I use both rh and td, sometimes it feels harder to get options filled on RH but that could be my imagination

>> No.20686772
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20686772

>>20686490
Also interesting:
GLDM, BAR, OUNZ, SGOL, AAAU

And Gold miner ETF RING

>> No.20686773

>>20686433
You started using ad hominems after I simply stated why I wasn't invested in nickel, there's no need to play victim. NCM share globally is only 7%. NCM uses less nickel than NCA which is a problem because Tesla's new chemistry will likely be NCM based and require less nickel per battery.

If you want a play, just wait a day before battery investor's day and buy a bunch of calls for nickel miners. If Tesla is still using nickel, the chemistry may be so good that other producers may switch to it which would actually drive nickel prices up even though each battery would have less nickel by weight. WALLAH, I saved you from ten years of bag holding nickel mining stocks, you're welcome, now stop obnoxiously shilling them there's confirmation of greatly increased demand.

>> No.20686784

>>20686727
TA is bullshit, drop it right away and forget about it
what is it you want to do? why do you want to trade every week?
TSM wasn't an undervalued or unnoticed stock, that would be like saying AMD was

>> No.20686786

>>20686665
I guess what im wondering is what do people look for in a short term play? The gamble is fun in a PnD but I want to know how people find these too

>> No.20686794

NKLAbros where do we go from here? Rope? Cut our losses and try a double up with some meme stocks? Im close to buying a rope

>> No.20686804

>>20686704
So if I have the funds to buy 2022 calls and don't mind paying money in premiums that I won't see gains on until much later in the future, is this a surefire way to make some serious returns on those calls? For instance buying MSFT 210c and wait it out. Because theta won't be fucking me so hard, right?
My broker is due to open option trading for me in a week or two cause it's harder to do that from EU and I'm kinda nervous.

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20686825

>>20686588
Watch Bollinger bands and RSI if you want a good entry point. Buy near close and sell near open. People who ignore bollinger bands and RSI get burned by pump and dumps here weekly.

>> No.20686843

>>20686804
>For instance buying MSFT 210c and wait it out.

You're better just buying 100 shares of MSFT. Deep ITM options have a delta of 1, and the theta will slowly decay the value over time anyway.

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20686845

>>20686794
>he bought NKLA
kek every time

>> No.20686848

>>20686794
>NKLAbros
lmao sorry but you are the only one at this point, everyone else bought below $20 and sold at $80~
it was always a scam. sell

>> No.20686874

>>20686773
Yeah, I think we're done here.

You don't even know what bag holding means. It was fun. Enjoy missing out on the nickel play. Ta-ta.

>> No.20686880

>>20686654
>do I wait for a dip?
honestly i can't really imagine how hard it must be trying to buy in after TSM already pumped, but when I bought at $56, this was right after it pumped uppretty quickly from $50. My reasoning for buying in regardless of that is that TSM will be worth more than $56 EoY so there's no point trying to time shit when semiconductors are the future. TA is useless and there have been times where RSI/MFI were at overbought levels only for TSM to never dip down and just crabbed until those indicators went back to neutral.

unironically doing some garbage DCA will probably be your best bet. Buy in chunks over a period of several weeks just in case it does have a big pullback. OR, just screw timing entirely and just go lump sum because you should have a 3 year outlook, not some shitty 3-month outlook on a corona-proof bluechip company.

>> No.20686887

>>20686825
reminder this over night meme is just a statistic and not a real tracked performance done with real money

>> No.20686922

Hello /biz/ boys, /g/entooman here:
>held straight cash before covid hit
>up 42% from just ETFs
Feels okay man, but what's the deal with miners? Why are (You) bullish on silver and nickel?

>> No.20686947
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New engineering grad Applying to engineering positions and came across this....LOL

>> No.20686949

>>20686784
I guess I think a stock will pump a little and then stagnate so I should get out of it. I guess Im seeking a thrill now that you mention it. I dont want to gamble though Id like to actually make smart decisions. But I dont have that much time to obsess over information right now.

>> No.20686969
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>>20686947

>> No.20686973

>>20686922
>/g/entooman
>miners
lithium is probably your best bet and something you will probably knowledgeable on already to do your own DD.
problem is, you're already a few weeks late because the EV bandwagon already happened.

>> No.20686975

>>20686804
>So if I have the funds to buy 2022 calls and don't mind paying money in premiums that I won't see gains on until much later in the future, is this a surefire way to make some serious returns on those calls?
I cant guarantee the sun will rise tomorrow, so no idea.
Im just saying a Jan. 21 MSFT 130 Call is 73 Dollars and the Jan. 22 is 78 dollars.
Thats three times the length for 5 dollars more.

For 210c you wouldnt get the same benefit, but a Jan. 22 one is 27 dollars and a Jan. 21 is 15 or so. Again having three times the contract length for 80% more initial premium.
I dont know if that fits your strategy. Im just pointing it out.

>For instance buying MSFT 210c and wait it out. Because theta won't be fucking me so hard, right?
Theta in LEAPS is practically negligible at the start. Even in weekly options it only really kicks in wednesday.
>My broker is due to open option trading for me in a week or two cause it's harder to do that from EU and I'm kinda nervous.
Which broker?
Also Heil Hitler.

>> No.20686991

>>20685155
They'd be better off with a reverse split

>>20684994
Pros: Beta by end of July, Product launch slated for September, "ahead of schedule", no competition in small market cap
Cons: Small market cap, OTC shitcoin, public offering suppressing price, no guarantee the app is succesful

>>20684982
Is that the same person as Grink?

>>20684972
I was a new trader... I want to sell at cost on KTOV badly. The good news is I have been very successful swingtrading on the side and I'm up about 50% even with these two albatrosses around my neck.

>> No.20687035

>>20686973
>>20686973
>few weeks late because the EV bandwagon already happened
Figured as much, but just curious. TY anon

>> No.20687046

>>20685422
Give me this or an Indian Scout any day over the boomer cruiser

>> No.20687078

How can you even tell if a stock is undervalued?

>> No.20687083

>>20686794
>NKLAbros
I am so sorry...

>> No.20687099
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20687099

>>20686874
BBL, VALE, most of the nickel miners peaked long ago and have either been crabbing or on a downtrend. By any reasonable standard, nickel has historically been a terrible investment. This whole argument is retarded because battery production is only 3% of nickel use. You could quadruple the amount of EVs on the road and it still wouldn't amount to much. This won't stop people like you from speculating on it and perhaps giving it a pump but that doesn't make you right anymore than if you said a bunch of bullshit about hydrogen and invested in NKLA.

>> No.20687114

>>20686845
>>20686848
rope it is then, friendos

>> No.20687115

WTF
>8% discount on geico for owning a (ONE(WAN(UNO))) BoomeRK.B
why didnt you guys shill this earlier during one of the dips

>> No.20687123

>>20686843
I think holding LEAPS is valid if you dont have the money for the shares and invest in a growth company.
Id say its ok with stuff like MSFT and far out dates like 2022. If MSFT is below 200 in two years we all have a problem.

>> No.20687124

>>20687035
never too late to buy into semiconductors though, don't miss out, i bet you missed out on bitcoins too despite frequenting /g/ so much. i know i did

>> No.20687125

>>20687078
Boomer answer: discounted FCF exceeds MV
Zoomer answer: it went down 60% on friday so it must go up later

>> No.20687134

>>20687083
You shouldn't be sorry, everyone here was talking shit about NKLA and predicted this would happen yet it fell on deaf ears to the exceptionally idiotic.

>> No.20687136

>>20687078

You again? Didn't you ask this yesterday? And didn't like 20 people answer you?

>> No.20687155

>>20686825
Youre saying its better to predict what will happen afterhoura tahn during the trading day?

>> No.20687169
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20687169

Happy weekend folks, how is everyone doing?
Show us your moves for the next week.

>>20686743
Robinhood is indeed harder to fill your options orders because of how they treat the order book and for certain options (on low liquidity stocks) they force you to use 5 cent margins instead of 1 cent. This makes a huge difference.

But for the most part Robinhood is fine for people who don't micromanage multileg options or need to do shit like vega hedge with 500 contracts of AAPL. Oh, and Robinhood goes down on crucial trading days like in March. So maybe have Robinhood for your daily shits and giggles but use TDA or something for the big boy shit.

>> No.20687173

Anyone here a fan of AYX? All the redditors say "just learn R," but they fail to realize that the vast majority of office workers aren't going to spend time learning a programming language. Alteryx is pretty easy to learn if you have decent Excel skills, and all of the Big 4 firms use it heavily and convince their clients to use it.

>> No.20687177

>>20687134
I WAS JUST 1 WEEK ON HOLIDAY WITH NO INTERNET CONNECTION

>> No.20687180

>>20687136
No Im just throwing the question out there, I guess it is a basic question my bad.

>> No.20687190

>>20686843
>>20686975
Thanks a lot guys. Degiro btw. They put you in a queue just to open the account due to corona and staff shortage (at least that's what they say)
Right now I'm on t212 which doesn't offer US options at all, just CFD

>> No.20687205

>>20687123
>I think holding LEAPS is valid if you dont have the money for the shares

Again, if delta converges on 1, you're better off just buying as many shares as you can afford. Maybe not 100 in that case, but 13 or so if the current premium for a Jan 22 210c is 2700.

>> No.20687217

>>20685288
Mark seems to get grilled by congress or whatever every 6 months at this point.

>> No.20687219

>>20687177
Now your excuse for buying it in the first place?

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>>20686794
This is you. Just get the fuck out of NKLA.

>>20687123
I think if MSFT is below 200 in 2 years, all of us won't even be here anymore because the entirety of Earth would've been wiped out from a meteor. That's how certain I am of MSFT staying above 200 in 2 years.

>> No.20687249

>>20687099
$FPX.V $TLO.TO $CNC.V

Every single one of these among others are junior nickel miners up over 100% in the past 4 months. As the nickel outlook continues to get better there is only upside for these companies.

Many will be bought out. M&As are already increasing in the nickel sector.

The fact you even brought up the likes of BBL and VALE as potential investments shows your fundamental lack of understanding of the nickel space.

You talk as if you know, but you don't know. The more the talk the more evident this becomes.

>> No.20687250

>>20687124
I missed BTC but caught a good upswing on XRP. Is your semiconductor opinion based on zen4/big navi releases or are you looking past that?

>> No.20687264

>>20686416
One these days LMAO

>> No.20687274

>>20686794
>>20686845
>>20686848
Did NKLA get wired carded?

>> No.20687277

>>20687205
>Again, if delta converges on 1, you're better off just buying as many shares as you can afford.

Actually, I retract this statement. I'm a retard. It would be a correct argument in the earlier 100 shares example, but not in the case of buying 13 shares.

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20687288

>>20686735
Still beats boomer passive index in the limit, faggot. And that's all-in buy-and-hold, either pulling out during crashes (even this crash, fastest on record, wasn't a blindside), or combining with a counter-market asset (TMF et al), or all-in on a 2x (which stomps 1x and doesn't suffer meaningfully from decay) further destroys unleveraged investing

>> No.20687292

/smg/ is more bullish on PMs than /pmg/
What the heck?

>> No.20687293

>>20687250
They're investing in something that people use on a worldwide basis and not something that 95% of the normie population has never heard of. So yeah, it's never too late to buy into semi-conductors. Because how are you going to mine your crypto without computers and chips and technology? How are people going to use their phones to buy and sell things with crypto if their phone doesn't have any processing power or chips?

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>>20687125
>Zoomer answer: it went down 60% on friday so it must go up later
i feel like you're attacking me, but it's hard not to put a portion of your portfolio in some boomer "growth" stocks when you see shit like pic related and live in the city where half their real estate assets are so you have a first-hand look at how much more optimistic their outlook actually looks (like holy shit, pic related is priced as if Toronto was going to become Detroit or something)

i mean if it can survive 2008 and it has liquidity right now to pull until full reopening or take advantage of a dip in real estate prices (real estate actually increased instead during pandemic), their top 10 tenants are groceries or banks, and even if you're still concerned about office rent income going down, it's not like they're going down by half, never mind that the remaining lease terms average around 5-8 years.

people are so scared about a "new normal" when in reality companies are asking for people to volunteer to come back to the office (from my experience with friends/family around Toronto) because of (1) lazy fuckers with lower productivity working from home (2) managers/supervisors who are deadweight right now but companies can't get rid of them (3) extroverts who are becoming increasingly anxious staying at home all day (4) IT nightmare with non-standardized conditions across all their employees.

>> No.20687320

>>20687274
it never went past the photoshopped ford pictures stage and more than likely never will
and the guy that started it is being a massive clown on twitter and every appearance

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20687348

/ptg/ > /smg/

>> No.20687363

>>20687313
wow did you just buy a very risky stock that won't even beat a bluechip stock, just because of price memory and return to normal?

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20687365

>>20687205
>Again, if delta converges on 1, you're better off just buying as many shares as you can afford.
Im not discussing if thats better or not, I only hold shares myself. Im saying if Anon wants to focus on LEAPS then we should tell him how to buy LEAPS.
If delta is 1 and he thinks MSFT will grow, then he will profit from holding more assets that can provide you delta.
>>20687190
Good luck
>>20687223
>I think if MSFT is below 200 in 2 years, all of us won't even be here anymore because the entirety of Earth would've been wiped out from a meteor. That's how certain I am of MSFT staying above 200 in 2 years.
Nah. It would just mean a total collapse and stagnation of the US economy.
A collapse so total that the US gouvernment cant even print it away and doesnt even try anymore to inflate the market and stock prices.

I just cant see that happening. Essentially it would be two years of doom for the biggest economy in the world. Not nuclear war kind of shit but China would replace the US in this scenario, if the Chinks even manage to cling to stagnation.

The second worst case is MSFT hitting 1000+, which would mean the US dollar became a joke currency. But below 200 is doom and gloom territory.

>> No.20687369

>>20687348

Then go there.

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>>20687274

>> No.20687398 [DELETED] 

>>20687313
I work for a pretty big US REIT. I take advantage of their employee stock purchase plan, but I should probably think of investing in other REITs, too. Maybe I'll buy that.

>> No.20687405

>>20687348
ptg hasn't managed to shill a single stock that went anywhere. and no, reposting news after a stock already pumped doesn't count, i can go to stockshits for that

>> No.20687407

>>20687313
I'm just memeing lad I bought a bit of STOR when covid hit

>> No.20687408

>>20687250
that was my first thought on getting into TSM, basically I wanted to cash in on AMD's great future prospects without actually buying AMD"s grossly inflated stock price. Then I learned that TSM's fabs are amazing the more I looked into it. Now it seems they're going to be linked to Apple's successes too, not just AMD. Worst case, if any of their customers fail, there will be plenty of other people who are eager to take that freed up capacity given what happened when TSM lost Huawei (+10% of their revenues at that time) due to geopolitics bullshit, but made up for those loss sales with other customers really fast.

Afaik, there's only TSM and Samsung that are actually at the forefront of semiconductors, and Samsung is diversified into other shit you don't want to be exposed to, also a bit more difficult to buy into (OTC)

>> No.20687466

>>20687249
You're cherry picking penny stock nickel miners instead of looking at the performance of the industry as a whole. 100% in four months doesn't prove anything, tens of thousands of stocks have moved that much since their march lows.

You're penny stock gambling and using past performance to justify it when most nickel mining stocks have eaten shit in the last few years. Of course you're going to ignore the largest nickel mining stocks that don't fit your narrative.

>> No.20687467

>>20687219
i bought at 35 before it spiked. hydrogen is in my opinion thr best solution for trucks in the future and hyundai and nkla are the only players right now in the market

>> No.20687503

>>20687155
What the chart is saying is that stocks tend to gap up between trading days and dump slightly during the day.

>> No.20687507
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20687507

>>20687288

The TQQQ benchmark benefits from outstanding gains in the first half of the 2010s.

It's a little selective and underhanded, but if I were to look at doing something like investing at the start of 2018 instead, a combined MSFT/AAPL portfolio would beat pure TQQQ. And in my opinion that's a trend which is likely to continue into the next decade as tech growth slows.

>> No.20687530

>>20686969
>>20686947
So what you're saying is they don't have a gearbox yet.

>> No.20687569

>>20687288
please add a dividend shitfolio there that under performs SPY so we can shit on divvie cucks some more
imagine holding riskier shit than bluechips for a worse return

>> No.20687575
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20687575

>>20687363
>price memory
come on
I just think that they are way oversold and it's a no-brainer because I don't want to overexpose myself to tech/semiconductors.
it just continues to crab but I'll still hold it brainlessly even if it dips under my entry of ~$13.80 because again, it's priced as if Toronto became a ghost town.

Q2 earnings is definitely a bit spooky to me because it is going to be shit. I'm not gonna bother trying to time shit, but my fingers are basically crossed that things are less bad than expected so it just continues crabbing until Q3 and Q4.

>> No.20687586

>>20687466
No, I'm not. You're just further cementing the perception of your misunderstanding of the space. These aren't COVID-19 pump and dumps. 100% after a decade+ of lows tells you something about the future direction of the sector.

Any cursory look into the names, especially FPX, will show you why the space is exciting.

I ignore the largest nickel mining stocks because theyre going to be doing the buying. The lucrative plays aren't in holding VALE for ten years.

It's the fact that demand is growing, supply is shrinking, and VALE et al are going to be buying juniors.

>> No.20687597

>>20687575
What is this meme picture?

>> No.20687610

>>20687078
>>20687180
Price/Earnings
Price/Book
Price/Sales
Here's something that looks overvalued:

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMD/amd/pe-ratio
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/AMD/amd/price-sales

>> No.20687613

Is it worth buying VOO at this point? It seems pretty certain that we're going to crash soon. The evictions/foreclosures are going to start piling up.

>> No.20687631
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>>20687190
Also degiro doesnt offer US options as far as I know.
They offer a few ones like VIX or SPY, but nothing else. As far as I know at least.

The couldnt even if they wanted to, as they are using Euros. And you cant trade in euros on the US exchange. The only brokers offering options in Europe are IBRK, Tastyworks and the IB resellers like Lynx.

>> No.20687642

>>20687597
a message to my fellow canucks so we either moon or crab together for eternity.

>> No.20687658

>>20687575
16% of all mortgages in Canada have been deferred under that government program.

The real estate market up there is a house of cards ready to collapse when the government can't support it with mortgage deferrals any longer.

Owning Canadian real estate in this climate is stupid.

>> No.20687696

>>20687613
Buy the dip

>> No.20687715
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20687715

>3 weeks
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.20687720

>>20687575
lol just buy microsoft or amd or something else like that for guaranteed better returns even faster
look at your own graph from before, shit crabbed for literally over a decade

>> No.20687733

>>20687613
I can't think of a scenario where it's a great decision.
If you believe we're going to make a full proper recovery, you'd buy a small cap index.
If you believe we're going to inflate and doombull, you'd buy QQQ or leveraged funds.
If you believe we're going to crash in the near term, you wouldn't be adding to positions you have and you'd keep some cash on the sidelines.

>> No.20687745

>>20687631
That's what I initially thought myself.
That'll be a relief, as I'm already holding stock but had a FOMO itch to try options.
Can you check this https://www.degiro.ie/products-and-markets.html -> Options Tab and tell me if I'm reading this wrong.
Well in any case, I'll find out in a week or two!

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>>20687467
>hydrogen is in my opinion thr best solution for trucks in the future
Well you're wrong. It takes around three times more energy to power hydrogen trucks compared to battery electric and there is almost no existing infrastructure for them, unlike electricity which is found almost anywhere and just needs chargers put in. Trevor Milton gets around this fact by lying about the cost of energy and their hydrogen stations.
>>20687586
A 100% move in your cherry picked penny stock is nothing, they still move like that all the time because of how much volatility they carry. My return in the last four months has been around 200%, I would have lost money if I 'invested' in FPX. It's unlikely that any junior nickel miner will outperform QQQ long term. How much of the recent pump came from Elon Musk's comments about nickel? That isn't sustainable.

>> No.20687773

>>20687658
What do mortgages in Canada have to do with a commercial reit that rents to Staples and cinemas? RIOCAN has other problems like Staples not paying rent and Cineplex not opening.

>> No.20687847

>>20687745
I can tell you from here. DeGiro uses EUR. You cant trade on the NYSE or CBOE with that. You need a broker that uses dollars like IBKR or Tastyworks.
Both easy to set up from your computer and ready to go within two days.

>> No.20687849
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20687849

Rate my mom's 'folio from back in 2005.
2000-2010 was really just a fucking lost decade huh.. I'm glad tech has evolved so much now, and honestly I don't believe that tech is a bubble due to how involved they are with our everyday lives now.

Back then, not everyone had access to tech. But now we do. It's kind of like how back then, everybody had access to Coke so it was a rock solid stock through the .com bubble and the housing bubble. Tech is kind of like Coke now (if you're looking at QQQ and not shit like Uber or Snap)

>> No.20687867

>>20687764
Congrats little man. If only we could all be QQQ hot shots like you.

Should've ended it the first time I said we were done. You're devolving into nonsense as you reach the limits of your knowledge in the sector.

Last response you're getting out of me.

>>20687773
So what's the point of your little info dump image of Toronto if the company doesn't engage in Canadian real estate?

I don't know anything about that particular stock but a Canadian REIT trading on a Canadian exchange holding Canadian real estate is a bad play.

>> No.20687884

>>20687867
>So what's the point of your little info dump image of Toronto if the company doesn't engage in Canadian real estate?
I'm a different guy but I looked into Riocan before.

>> No.20687889

>>20679571
what do my fellow AMDlets think about earnings coming up this week? tempted to just sell at the bell on monday, already up at least 50%

>> No.20687891

>>20687847
Ok ok got you. I heard IKBR UI is painful but I'll give it a try thx anon

>> No.20687902

>>20687893
>>20687893
>>20687893

>>20687893
>>20687893
>>20687893

splash

>>20687893
>>20687893
>>20687893

>> No.20687907

>>20687658
okay to be fair i only have a 1-year outlook on RioCan since the real estate shit does spook me a bit. CERB and shit is masking whatever the situation really is right now. It's easy for me to just keep holding and watching it crab when it's above my entry price, and there's no afterhours fuckery on the TSE to fuck over whatever stop loss I may put.

>>20687720
i'm already exposed to tech (TSM), i'm not gonna place all my eggs in one basket. Shit crabs because it gives dividends that was never cut even during 08-09. Dividend stocks are generally shit, but the corona situation makes them look like growth stocks for the short-term (6 months-1 year)

>> No.20687920

>>20680663
Interested
Hasbro
AMD
Spotify
Facebook
Qualcomm
Amazon
apple
Google

>> No.20687922

>>20687889
Maybe sell a covered call for a price you're fine with getting assigned at? The premiums on that has to be insanely high with the IV popoff.

>> No.20687951

>>20687891
Youre welcome

>> No.20687963

>>20684135
kek, yes 2020+ won't be dominated by chips and tech but starbucks figuring out how to get 5x the money

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>>20685288
Here's a handy guide for senate hearings:
> People who committed actual treason walked away without breaking a sweat.
> These CEOs are not only part of the class that buys legislators, but the corporations that are supposed to be 'reigned in' are the core of the economy every politician is taking a credit for / getting reelected on.
Also the politicians pushing this 'muh monopoly' have no idea what the fuck 'monopoly' actually means, so this shit is over before it began. How to fuck would you even 'break up' Facebook's monopoly? You'd create separate entities like Facebook California and Facebook Panhandle where users can't interact with users of the other entities to stop the centralized power of Facebook? If they were to break off Whatsapp (which is not happening) they could just sign a contract the next day to share the same data they're sharing now.
The biggest meme of all is the fact that the republicans that are pushing to reclassify the social networks as publishers responsible for the content posted would be the first ones to get banned, because the cultural bolshevik drones in these platforms would refuse to take any heat to protect republican opinion, while they'd gladly die on the hill of sterilizing children.
The market could however take an unrelated shit. The new stimulus is too far away so there will be bumps in the road.

>> No.20688016

>>20687867
You know you can just stop replying instead of saying that you're going to stop replying and never actually doing it. It doesn't offend me, it just makes me laugh. You're unironically upset because someone threw cold water on your nickel shilling.
>QQQ
I don't own any QQQ, that was just a comparison. Most of my gains have been from TSLA, TQQQ, WKHS, and various other stocks like cruises and airliners that I held only while they were pumping.

>> No.20688018

>>20687384
Where you see this kind of info? Shows insider trading too?

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20688020

>>20687507
>B-but ford beats it over the last month!
First you cry that the past decade is cherry picking, and now you're arguing that Ma Tech over a fucking two year period """"proves"""" it to be inferior? Nigger, get your shit together. TQQQ (QLD if you're a bitch) > 100% of boomervesting, & 99.97% of traders, if you can consistently best it (multi decade time frames) GREAT! Most can't, most won't

>> No.20688026

>>20686047
diversifying into 50 stocks with 10k is retarded, full stop.

At that point buy an index, you'll be wasting your time following 50.

I think an ETF+picks mix is best for a full time worker. Something like 60% etf and 30% over weighting 2-3 favorites.

>> No.20688065

>>20688018
Pic is from nasdaq's site.

>> No.20688460

>>20686794
JUST cut your losses already

>> No.20688520

>>20685672
I dont fuck with options. I never will, holy fuck that would make me sick for a year