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Everything the industry talks about now, all the coins that bandwagon on the latest trend, all the projects talking about the need for DEX liquidity?
XSN was saying all this and building up solutions for it 2 years ago.
It came from obscurity and it's just now beginning to get recognition from people in high places in the industry.
There's good reason we told you to buy in under 1k sat, /biz/. This might test 5k very shortly.
Get in before off-chain BTC/ETH swaps are demo'd. They're already confirmed working.
https://medium.com/stakenet/xsn-core-dev-update-july-12-2020-72cac6050377

98% of crypto (down from 99% the other week) still has no idea what this coin is - reddit, twitter, youtube. By the time footage of Stakenet's off-chain BTC/ETH swaps goes public, they will.

>> No.20297699
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>>20297624
XSN is the next link
Anybody who was there for the beginning of link knows
Same energy, same shilling, same future,same fudders, same everything.
If you missed out on Link listen to this
Get XSN and this time, trust us okay?

>> No.20297896
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>>20297699
Checked.
XSN was looking out for /biz/ from the start.
>we built a permanent non-custodial no-KYC DEX AND we want you to take part ownership in it
The message remains the same.

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>>20297699

Checked, also you forgot the FUCKING DIGITS.

>> No.20298185

best place to buy? can i get on uniswap?

>> No.20298216

>>20298185
Livecoin is the only place from now on I believe.
Livecoin is a bit slow but that just proves how much money this fucking coin is going to make when the average exchange is like 100x slower than Stakenets one

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>>20298185

Currently only on Livecoin, if you want gems you gotta dig in the mud.

>> No.20298454

I've got 2 masternodes and 15 eth. Thinking about switching my eth to XSN as well.

>> No.20298503

>>20298185
This ain't no gay ethereum token

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>>20298454

Smart boy, also read everything you can about the project. Arm yourself with knowledge for the DeFi bubble.

>> No.20298597

>>20298454
Good strategy.. ETH is a good play long term, but won't see the same ROI as XSN, I can guarantee you that!

>> No.20298694

>off chain btc/eth swaps
>xsn is the epicentre of DeFi

Someone gotta tell me why you think that's going to be a big deal. Who the fuck cares about off chain swaps? Who's even going to use BTC in 5 years lmao. Shill to me why I should put some wagie bucks into this rather than, literally anything else DeFi related.

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>>20298694

>He doesn't know

DYOR you damn nigger, I'm done spoonfeeding you ungrateful fags.

>> No.20298931

>>20298869
Whenever someone tells you to DYOR, it means the project has no real use case.

Again, who the fuck cares about BTC/LTC and lightning swaps? Fucking no one uses that shit anymore, it's not 2015.

>> No.20299046

>>20298931
many xsn threads stay up til bump limit and go over all the selling points and justifications 10x over

>> No.20299237

>>20297624
shitcoin

>> No.20299320

They won't be the epicenter of defi, because Raiden integration will take months, which is a conservative guess.

>> No.20299834

>>20299046
As do many other 'gems'... This ain't one chief.

>> No.20300104

>>20299834
You couldnt explain your reason as to why if it took you another 3 weeks.
Imagine fudding this all the way from 550 sat lol

>> No.20300347

>>20297624
Blocknet will eat XSN for lunch

>> No.20300779

like the horse and carriage ate the car

>> No.20301317

>>20300347
Blocknet's main selling point is XSN's secondary feature

>> No.20301657

>>20297624
Get this piece of shit exchange off this board. They don’t fucking connect liqudiity you fucking retards. They just use arbitrage and if you werent so fucking retarded you would understand that ALL centralized exchanges already fucking do this. I’m tired of you idiots shitting up this board. Now please fuck off and go jerk off to Draper somewhere else.

>> No.20301703

>>20298931
Lmao exactly. 2020 is the year of ethereum and defi. No one gives a shit about lightning network anymore. Now we just tokenize BTC on ethereum.

>> No.20301731

a Dex with the liquidity of a Cex sounds like a good thing you inbred.

>> No.20301878

>>20301731
Arbitrage doesn’t help very much. Look at all the cexs out there with shit liquidity. The only solid liquidity you will ever get with crypto is pools like uniswap or balancer. That’s why ethereum is the future.

>> No.20301911

>>20301731
Why do you think no institutional investors are in this shit. They see passed the bullshit.

>> No.20301946

>>20301657
>>20301703
>>20301878
>seething this hard
This pissy ex whale has been lying about XSN everyday on here since it was 550 sat

>> No.20301963

>>20301878
What are you on about? Care to explain more in detail WHY stakenets system wouldn't work?

>> No.20302070

>>20301946
I’m not a whale just an ethereum maxi :)

>>2030946
I’m not saying it’s not gonna work. The devs have done a great job building the DEX. I’m saying the whole “liquidity connection” is bullshit. It’s just arbitrage. And every exchange in crypto already does this. It’s not gonna bring much liquidity nor “connect” any sort of orderbook. They are duping you hard with fancy words.

>> No.20302175

>>20302070
>They are duping you hard with fancy words.
And how are they duping us? Care to explain why the technology doesn't do what they say it does?

>> No.20302334

>>20302175
Bro I’ve explained it. Their “connection” is just arbitrage. Look up what arbitrage is if you don’t know what that means. They use fancy terms to make it seem like it’s something new, but it’s not at all. I’m just tryna warm people so they don’t get their expectations too high.

>> No.20302346

Fuck shilling.

No need to shill anymore. You can see with your own two eyes

Just come join a dex testing group or get fucked.

>> No.20302520

>>20302070
>no one believed my redundant fud when i pretended to be a linkie. now i like ethereum h-HA SCAM
Like clockwork.
If you really are an ETH maxi youd love the bridge to BTC and the leverage XSN has being able to pull liquidity from LN BTC and wBTC

>> No.20302701

>>20302334
The whole point is its done with a DEX idiot. Look up arbitrage yourself and you see it can only be done with instant settlements otherwise it wont work...wait what is XSN doing? instant settlements? what do other DEX's not do? Oh right maybe thats why its important

if you just think about it for two seconds it makes sense so you are either a retard or you put all your energy talking shit on this board cause you missed your entry and trying to scare ppl to to fill your bags before it takes off

>> No.20302928

>>20302701
That’s just a straight up lie. How the fuck do you think they pool liquidity from other Dexes? They claim to pull liquidity from uniswap, and all other ethereum dexes. How the fuck would that work if they need instant settlement you absolute dipshit.

>> No.20303576

>>20302928
Nothing you says makes any fucking sense.

>How the fuck do you think they pool liquidity from other Dexes?
With the aggregators, which are setup by regular people with accounts on different exchanges, using the apis provided from these.
>They claim to pull liquidity from uniswap, and all other ethereum dexes.
That's your claim, they've showcased this aggregator tech working against Bitfinex (?), Binance and Livecoin. Literally allowing trades instantly on these CEXes from the DEX orderbook in the light wallet.
>How the fuck would that work if they need instant settlement you absolute dipshit.
It works because of the use of the lightning network in combination with atomic swaps, which are allowed due to the aggregators which are setup to facilitate the necessary information between the other exchanges and the DEX.

>> No.20303677

>>20303576
God damn dude you are fucking dumb.
You just said that for arbitrage you need instant settlement. Then how the fuck will arbitrage with other dexes? I have a feeling you don’t know what arbitrage is...

>> No.20303756

>>20297699
you're right it's shilled like it's the next big thing. but what technology does it have that could make it go as crazy as link is right now?

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>>20302928
Nope nowhere did they say pull liquidity from Uniswap or otherwise. Heres even proof of them saying for the arbitrage to work you need instant settlements Which makes total sense because high frequency trading algorithms need speed to run their strategies!

Like I said before if you look into it and think about it it makes complete sense

>> No.20303868

>>20303826
It says dex’s right in that text hahaha
So you’re telling me all the other dexes already have instant settlement?

>> No.20303973

>>20303677
High-frequency trading (HFT) is a type of algorithmic financial trading characterized by high speeds, high turnover rates, and high order-to-trade ratios that leverages high-frequency financial data and electronic trading tools.[1] While there is no single definition of HFT, among its key attributes are highly sophisticated algorithms, co-location, and very short-term investment horizons.[2] HFT can be viewed as a primary form of algorithmic trading in finance.[3][4] Specifically, it is the use of sophisticated technological tools and computer algorithms to rapidly trade securities.[5][6][7] HFT uses proprietary trading strategies carried out by computers to move in and out of positions in seconds or fractions of a second.

>> No.20303983

>>20303756
>people downplaying swaps
>BTC to ETH swap would revolutionize the game
>leads the way to swapping with any coin
This is big, right below link big for what I can gather: only link has a lot more publicity baggage and no staking.

>> No.20304431

>>20303983
XSN overpriced at .25 or no?

>> No.20304613

>>20304431

Well I entered at 25 a few days ago... breaking even at the moment.

>> No.20304639

>>20297699
Checked and based.

0.25 cents is underpriced. Stakenet is the first DEX to offer; no KYC, non custodial, lightning enabled, raiden integration (at 35%) and they will also offer atomic swap too (they have lightning swap atm).

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>>20304639
Whoops meant to reply to
>>20304431

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>>20304431
Honestly I want it to go down more for a node, but it wouldn't be a bad buy. Anyway if it goes down you can price in a node and as we get closer to launch it'll pump anyway: probably sooner by showcasing swaps.

>> No.20304704

>>20304639
if something like bch or neo is worth billions and xsn does 100x more for crypto, its a good sign to say the least

>> No.20304728

Would you fucks just shut up and join the beta.

Stop yapping.

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>>20304704
Yep, honestly stakenet is very far ahead compared to everyone else. I don't think there is a single competitor that offers what they offer.

>> No.20304758

>>20304674
no need to show your sister, no need to shill her with the XSN pajeet scam

>> No.20304775

>>20303576

One person sets up an API that other people can process trades through to get liquidity? That sounds absolutely fucking illegal...

>> No.20304828

>>20304749
>you think

, hurr durr I think coin good, vortex go brrr

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>>20304775
>'Illegal' fud again...
>>20304828
>Doesn't offer any names of competitors that come close
Cope.

>> No.20305051

>>20297896
Based anon

>> No.20305112

>>20304775
API is the same thing as just using the wallet and DEX software like any other user. Fucking retards don’t understand basic technology concepts, take some time to go learn and maybe you can come back with some credible FUD

>> No.20305127

>>20304775
>One person sets up an API that other people can process trades through to get liquidity?
Well, almost. The Exchanges already have APIs for trading with bots etc. The person running the aggregator can use these to provide liquidity for the DEX. Why would it be illegal? And even if that came to be in some shitty country like USA, how would they be able to stop it? Literally the point of the aggregator is to provide early liquidity in order to promote adoption. Once enough people have adopted the dex it will run itself. Not to mention the fact that you can try and cut off one pajeet/chink/russian running the aggregator and ten others will pop up instead, in order to make gains on the price differences. Well befitting the word "hydra" as well. Also, The CEXes would benefit from the added liquidity as well, and so would the smaller exchanges. It's seemingly a win-win situation for everyone involved.

>> No.20305972

>>20305112
>>20305127
Thanks for explaining this.

>> No.20307002

bump for EPOS

>> No.20307435

>>20307002
From what i understand is that Microsoft is interested in that industry?

>> No.20307528

>>20297624
>bought 9k of this at last year at $0.13
>forgot about it
>have to wait another 5 days to unlock my livecoin account because I lost my 2FA
>price of the remaining 1k for a MN will probably be double by then
fuck me

>> No.20307715

>>20307435
Microsoft filed some patents related to it
XSN proposed it in 2018

>> No.20307782

>>20307528
Don't you need 6k more for a MN?

>> No.20308003

>>20302928
xsn doesn't work with eth or erc-20 currently bro. no dev has claimed uniswap compatibility because they've said they're going to use raiden to integrate eth ecosystem transfers. this is all information you'd have gotten if you'd read the dev update from today. raidenis critical path for MVP, not implemented yet.

I've used uniswap, it's trash. I pray to God xsn does not integrate with that shit platform, it would devalue the brand. its much easier to pick up the liquidity from cexes anyway, in most cases, and if there does happen to be a good ico, and uniswap is your only option, then I guess you suck it up and use uniswap, its buggy interface, and pay your 2500 gwei to interface with its shitty swap mechanics that have no limit order capability and leave you with your dick in your hand 2/3 of the time.

>> No.20308080

>>20302070
not even vitalik is an eth maxi. you're retarded if you think eth is the clear way forward; they'll struggle to survive the transition to PoS

>> No.20308158

>>20308080
Vitalik said it's "embarassing" that there's no native BTC<->ETH bridge a couple weeks ago.

>> No.20308236

>>20303677
they can't and won't bother integrating with any DeX that hasn't implemented lightning, atomic swaps, or raiden- like capabilities. anything without a functional order book or approximation thereof would not allow for arbitrage.

nobody has said that they will integrate with uniswap - xsn will enable token swaps using raiden, which uniswap doesn't use because apparently scalable settlement or functional order books are not something they're interested in.

>> No.20308372

>>20304775
you can literally do this yourself with most established cexes.

I set up api trading for my kucoin and binance accounts - neither of which require kyc unless you're dealing in cash transfers.

legality only comes into it when you're talking 'real' (read: fiat) currency. there are no regulations or restrictions over crypto transfers or arbitrage or payments, because governments don't consider that a currency transaction that would be governed by money laundering or economic sanctions laws.

>> No.20308603

ETH integration is built on Raiden network which is payment channels implantation for ETH. Don’t talk about shit like uniswap. This is a real thing that can make trustless instant swaps with BTC lightning or some other lightning network. Completely instant, trustless, anonymous swaps between ETH and BTC, LTC, XSN, etc

>> No.20308865

>>20307528
You need 15k for a masternode.
>>20307715
Guess it's still a long way away.
>>20308003
Raiden should be finished this year.

>> No.20308903 [DELETED] 

I see some confusion about aggregation process. The idea is that liquidity providers will use other exchanges to get info about their orderbook and use OWN funds in lightening network to post orders on XSN DEX. This way you are reading actually with liquidity provider who aggregates orders from other exchanges. In that sense any exchange can be plugged in if they have an API. In future that won’t be needed when DEX goes HYDRA.

>> No.20308938

I see some confusion about aggregation process. The idea is that liquidity providers will use other exchanges to get info about their orderbook and use OWN funds in lightening network to post orders on XSN DEX. This way you are trading actually with liquidity provider who aggregates orders from other exchanges. In that sense any exchange can be plugged in if they have an API. In future that won’t be needed when DEX goes HYDRA.

>> No.20309619

>>20308938
For all the people calling Vortex a "simple aggregator", why is Binance so curious how it works?

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>>20308938
>>20309619

>> No.20309910

>>20308603
The funny thing about Uniswap and all these other ERC20 DEX’s is that it is proven it can’t scale. Remember when Cryptokitties brough the entire ETH Network to its knees? Well what do you think will happen when one of these ETH dexs gains enough popularity. This is why XSN building on Lightning and Raiden is so smart because it doesn’t matter if the underlying network becomes congested as it’s all done on the 2nd layer so doesn’t have those issues

>> No.20310650

>>20309910
I've been hearing about ETH 2.0 for 3.5 years. Im interested to see the end result. Really thought we would see it this year.

>> No.20311142

>>20309910
Most likely raiden is done this year. Should be good.

>> No.20311365

>>20297624
I can't believe you're still PND'ing this garbage shitcoin.

Buy DMG.

>> No.20311617

>>20310650
ETH 2.0 is going to be hard to launch because the miners need to come to consensus to change the network, they aren’t going to agree to switch from POW where they make their money to POS which renders all their hardware useless so will vote against any proposal that does so as it goes against their own interest and profits. Same situation with BTC, miners control the network. This is why Raiden is important for ETH

>> No.20312317

Hope eth 2.0 does make it.

If miners disagree they can make etc 2.0 and get fucked

>> No.20312403

>>20312317
Hopefully, if eth doesn't make it what would happen to all the other projects that use eth or the tokens?

>> No.20312419

>>20297624
k

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>>20312419
Indeed.

>> No.20312880

>>20297624
Lol no this is a dead shitcoin.

>> No.20312903

>>20312880
>Dead shitcoin
>New DEX updates everyday
>DEX in beta
>"We have already executed cross trades from BTC to ETH via Lightning and Raiden and have a proof of concept in place."

https://medium.com/stakenet/xsn-core-dev-update-july-12-2020-72cac6050377

Tell me how is this a dead shitcoin?

>> No.20313458

>>20312903
He is just fudding don't waste your precious time

>> No.20313475

>>20313458
I know but me bumping keeps the thread alive and helps spread information.

>> No.20313954

>>20313475
kek

>> No.20314380

can we pls pump already.

>> No.20314583
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20314583

The entire sell wall up to 3k is 3 MNs.

>> No.20314728

>>20314583
That ain't much. Which side is which? I'm not familiar with this.

>> No.20314912

>>20314728
Red = buy pressure
Blue = sell pressure

>> No.20314936

>>20314912
Ah, it's opposite colours....How long to take off?

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imagine paying MN hosting fees haha

>> No.20315273

>>20315039
Hosting cost 0.15 usd a day for 1 node. At the current price it cost less than 1 xsn a day. It is extremely cheap, the masternode pays for itself and as xsn goes higher it'll cost fractions of 1 xsn for an entire month.