XSN Stakenet

[Anonymous No.20266973]

[Anonymous No.20267003]

Feels good

[Anonymous No.20267039]

Feels fucking good but how many masternodrs are we talking in the chart?

[Anonymous No.20267049]

>>20267039
1

[Anonymous No.20267052]

>>20266973
You need to change the trading fees column, but it looks good.

Do it with a 0.1% trading fee at this is the fee of most exchanges out there, and they've already said they'll lower it in the future when more volume goes through. And also put a note about how many Masternodes are online. You're massively overestimating.

0.1% trading fees, and 5000 nodes online. Do that

[Anonymous No.20267114]

>>20267052
5000 MN's is highly unlikely.

[Anonymous No.20267130]

>>20266973
Beautiful, thanks for your work anon. Greatly appreciated. Would like if you added the calculations used. The trading fees would potentially be lower depending on number of masternodes and fees, after all.

[Anonymous No.20267158]

>>20267114
No it's not. From the HYDRA picture. It looks like there's fucking millions of them. You're going to need hundreds on nodes yourself if you want to keep any steady income coming in the future. And you'll also need stupid high volumes.

[Anonymous No.20267200]

>>20267158
>You're going to need hundreds on nodes
>implying.
What do you base that assumption on? A picture?

[Anonymous No.20267216]

>>20267158
This. There will be tens if thousands of masternodes eventually. Right now the majority of the supply is being staked because it's more profitable. That will change when the trading fees start rolling in.
1 masternode will not get you too far.

[Anonymous No.20267222]

>>20267200
Do the calculation again with a 0.1% trading fee and +500 nodes every row, as volume goes up nodes will go up. That's a compromise.

[Anonymous No.20267227]

>>20267158
Theoretical maximum n of MN's is <7000 at the moment. Not counting that there are millions of coins locked in Cryptopia, future burn of XSN etc.

[Anonymous No.20267282]

>>20267222
I don't think you understand how XSN masternodes work? You can't just "add" 500 when you like.

[Anonymous No.20267319]

>>20267216
If we take the total cap of XSN, which is about 100,000,000 right now, and one masternode requires 15,000 XSN. Then there are logically 6666 potential masternodes right now. But you would need to gobble up ALL of the xsn to make it that many. The price would get far too large before that is feasible, and people won't sell their XSN for pennies any longer. I don't see how there will be "tens of thousands of masternodes", unless I'm missing something.

[Anonymous No.20267338]

>>20267227
Right well it wont be in the future. Do it again with a 0.1% trading fee and 7000 nodes. That's like two numbers to change in your calculation. Here, I'll do it for you.

At 500 fucking million usd daily volume, your masternode will make you 64 fucking dollars with 7000 nodes and 0.1% trading fee.

If you genuinely think this is making it, or this project will make you make it. You're fucking bloody retarded. You need AT LEAST 10 MN right now. And you need to continually add more masternodes, as every other cunt will too.

[Anonymous No.20267388]

>>20267052
they said they MIGHT lower it. But atm it's .25%. Moreover .25% is very fair with all those benefits one gets. I mean come on, we're talking 25 cents on 100 bucks, it's ridiculously cheap

>>20267227
not counting in that case one person staking would get every fucking staking reward. Not counting less and less people will be able to afford even a single node

[Anonymous No.20267402]

>>20267319
Plus as more XSN moves to MN’s it makes staking more profitable which then lures people back to the otherside.

Also as prices rises MN’s become more expensive and people will break them to cash out but because price has risen not as many will get replaces. XSN at $10 would be $150k for an MN, not many people can afford to pay that so I think MN count would actually be lower like 1000 or something at that point.

[Anonymous No.20267423]

>>20267338
>64 fucking dollars
And that's a bad thing, how? You're assuming a rather bad case scenario, where all of the cap is locked up as nodes and the trading volume "only" reaches 500 million usd. Why would that be a bad current trade for me who bought 2 masternodes at 6000$? And that's not considering the block rewards which will be dependent on the price of the coin at the time.

In that bad case scenario 64$/day may not be "making it" tier, for someone who's a fucking whale millionaire, but for your regular neet it's a fucking godsend.

[Anonymous No.20267440]

The calculations are based on current available information, and therefore they are very reasonable. Even if the trading fees were halved at some point, the returns are still life altering.

[Anonymous No.20267918]

>>20267049
No I mean how many MNs are running in hydra? Is this based on 2000 MNs operating?

[Anonymous No.20267949]

>>20267282
you need 15k xsn for a masternode retard.

[Anonymous No.20267965]

>>20267423
>bad case scenario
>500 fucking million usd daily volume

If you think this will get that amount of volume you're delusional. You'll get max 50 million.

[Anonymous No.20268013]

>>20267965
Monero will be added some time after release.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ho5ibv/xmrto_added_lightning_network_payments/

[Anonymous No.20268118]

>>20267965
>If you think this will get that amount of volume you're delusional.
Perhaps, but that sentiment goes for every other fucking crypto project out there. The fundamentals for this are much stronger than so many of the other shitcoins out there, yet they manage to go to the moon. Why wouldn't this considering all of that? Even if we wouldn't reach the volumes on the dex, the price would definitely be at a higher price than current either way, meaning I'd have made a large gain on my investment. Your concern fudding is weak.

[Anonymous No.20268369]

>>20267402
True and it would mostly be people with MNs fighting to get more MNs. They'll have a hard start over people FOMOing in

[Anonymous No.20268431]

>>20267003
>>20266973
>>20267039
>>20267949
This is satsgang/spectre project, if you buy into this you will be dumped on.

[Anonymous No.20268433]

>>20266973
Thanks for making this.
>1 MN at $1bln mcap pays roughly the same every week that a full-time $15/hr job does after taxes without factoring in trading volume
This is exactly why I went in.

[Anonymous No.20268476]

>>20268118
Right. I bought in at .05, it's not going to drop below .05 so no matter what, it's a win for me.

[Anonymous No.20268510]

>>20268476
Enjoy getting scammed by a telegram pump and dump >>20268431

[Anonymous No.20268540]

>>20268510
Proof? Didn't think so. Screw off, you had your chance to buy low.

[Anonymous No.20268562]

>>20268540
Ye nvm hope you get dumped on newfag, for your arrogance. Remember this post.

[Anonymous No.20268584]

>>20268540
sucker

[Anonymous No.20268594]

>>20268562
Still no proof. Just keep posting in threads because you're mad you either sold or didn't buy. How does it feel to miss out? I'll screenshot this and repost in a few months so you can remember it.

[Anonymous No.20268662]

>>20268594
>buy my bags already stop thinking for yourself

[Anonymous No.20268706]

>bought a year ago
>staked for whole year
>sold for 1.6 during recent pump

b-but... i want them back... i... i staked that fucker for a year, it's a part of me, cheering me up every time my laptop made a ping noise in my kitchen indicating another deposit... and now i can't even look at the XSN/BTC market, because it's too soul-destroying. Fuck every single person in this thread and all subsequent XSN threads.

[Anonymous No.20268778]

>>20268662

[Anonymous No.20268856]

>>20268706
B-buy in again anon?

[Anonymous No.20268870]

There's not going to be enough tokens for 7000 masternodes. This thing burns its own supply with trading fees. Once it gets running and burning up its own tokens theres not going to I be much left to buy

[Anonymous No.20268928]

>>20266973
honestly I was feeling better about XSN before seeing this image. We really will need to hit delusional levels of adoption to get rich off a couple MN won't we? Thinking of selling

[Anonymous No.20268941]

>>20268870
the burn rate will be lower than the mint rate, supply will continue to increase and Draper has said an inflationary currency is necessary for the MN system to work

[Anonymous No.20268992]

>>20266973
Would be nice if you started the marketcap and trading volume columns at lower values desu. Like from where we are now

[Anonymous No.20269003]

>>20268941
The additional supply that does exist should allow the network to build up it's capacity and scale with demand.

[Anonymous No.20269015]

>>20268928
Then sell it, we'll just get it cheaper.

[Anonymous No.20269016]

>>20268431
Still fake-news, but I'm glad you learned how to show at least both axes now. Maybe someday you will be able to go outside without that Trisomy21 helmet

[Anonymous No.20269043]

>>20268431
Now we are a "satsgang" PnD?
kek, FUDers are getting desperate

[Anonymous No.20269055]

>>20267052
>>20267158
>>20267338

>5000 nodes
>7000 nodes

You won a free ride on the COPEter

[Anonymous No.20269069]

>>20268706
Painful.

[Anonymous No.20269136]

>>20268431
POSW all over again

[Anonymous No.20269281]

>>20268941
Huh. Did not realize that. This is getting less and less attractive as an investment the more I learn about it.

[Anonymous No.20269354]

>>20268706
just buy back before it hits $10.

[Anonymous No.20269359]

>>20266973
what kind of numbers do we need to reach 100$ per XSN? I have 1MN

[Anonymous No.20269412]

>>20269359
You need trading volume on par with Binance, and you need people to not be selling the XSN. You also need people to just hold XSN in their wallets and not stake/set up master nodes. As more people staking/more master nodes mean less rewards for every individual.

[Anonymous No.20269522]

>>20269359
About 10,000,000,000 dollars pumped into XSN. 16 billion less than Ethereums current cap at 26 billion. That's quit a lot, it'd have to take third spot in crypto. 1 Mn might not make you a millionaire any time soon, but you'll be fucking comfy nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.20269596]

>>20269522
Let's remember that Dash had a 12 billion MC during the last bull run. Eth was over _138_ billion

[Anonymous No.20269602]

>>20269359
10 BIll MC. At 100k xsn is $1. $10 will be easy to get to and $100 is a matter of time.
>>20269522
>>20269522
Cope. XSN will go crazy in the bull run, prepare yourself, 10 billion mc is nothing.

[Anonymous No.20269645]

>>20269602
Well, I hope you're right, of course. I see the potential for sure. I have very high expectations, but I'd personally be happy if I make enough to be a neet with my 1 MN, which I consider a conservative estimate. If we see a bull run like 2017 then we'll be stinking rich either way.

[Anonymous No.20269663]

>>20269602
> 10 billion mc is nothing.
Dream on chief

[Anonymous No.20269834]

>>20269136
>still being a 7th grade dropout who doesn't know how to present data

any graph is worthless without its axes

[Anonymous No.20269892]

As far as masternode coins xsn offerers more than just staking. Any coin can do that. The fees from trading tho.... let’s pray it can get even 5m in volume at first. This thing will fomo up and never come back down.

[Anonymous No.20269913]

>>20269892
The trading fees are grossly over estimated.

[Anonymous No.20269980]

The developers basically saved PoSW bagholders, and as a reward got a dedicated support group for them. A few got tired of waiting during the development phase and sold. Now that the team has unveiled the product, the people who sold are absolutely seething in every XSN thread. It's easy to spot them, since usually they know the project history, but are intentionally distorting it in order to validate their (misinformed) selling decisions. Some of them go to disturbing lengths, spending hours on hours posting on threads they are only emotionally invested in. Still time to buy back :-)

[Anonymous No.20270074]

It's not that hard:

Say you buy 15k XSN for 0,3$ a piece.

15k * 0,3 = $4500 investment.

Say with $50.000.000 volume, 0,1% fee and 3500 active MNs you get $142 per MN per day. So based on fees alone (not taking into account xsn rising in price itself) it takes you 1 month to earn that back.

A passive income of 4.5K per month, how is that not a good investment?

And the burn rate is based upon the volume, the more popular the dex, the more money is earned to burn xsn. Probably based on popularity of the DEX sometimes the minting overtakes the burning or the other way around. The inflationary aspect is balanced out just like Bitcoins hash rate is ensured game theory wise by price and electricity costs on the planet.

[Anonymous No.20270213]

>>20270074
I think you mean 500 mil volume?

[Anonymous No.20270247]

>>20270074
>Say with $50.000.000 volume, 0,1% fee and 3500 active MNs you get $142 per MN per day. So based on fees alone (not taking into account xsn rising in price itself) it takes you 1 month to earn that back.

Your calculation is wrong. In OP's post at 40M daily volume it's $50 a day with 0.25% fee.

Now do it with 0.1% fee.

[Anonymous No.20270373]

>>20270247

Even if the fee will be 0.1% MNs will still get 0.2% as both sides of the trade needs to pay the fee.

COPE HARDER FAG

[Anonymous No.20270748]

>>20270247
>>20270373
So $40M volume is $40/day/MN @ .1% because both parties pay a fee effectively making it .2%.
>$280/week
>$1120/4 weeks
At $42 million, each MN will payout roughly the same amount as working full-time 40 hour weeks at McDonalds @ minimum wage.

If you have 5 MNs, it's like working full-time at McDonalds 5x and getting 5 checks for it
Based.

[Anonymous No.20270870]

>>20270373
>>20270748

Not gonna lie, I did kek audibly.

[Anonymous No.20271156]

>>20270870

Yea me too *pic related*

Keep fudding, im feeding on your cope.

[Anonymous No.20271355]

>>20270870
Get me a Big Mac.

[Anonymous No.20271360]

>>20266973
You know guys.
Few years ago i saw absoulety the same tablet about NEX exchange. And hype level was the same. So what now? NEX fucked, cucked and forgotten.

[Anonymous No.20271439]

Even if you COULD theoretically have 7000 nodes I deleted a wallet containing 3 master nodes + spare XSN so consider them out of circulation

[Anonymous No.20271446]

>>20271360
>some other project didnt pull through
what does that have to do with stakenet dex?

[Anonymous No.20271458]

>>20271156
Best market action of anything in crypto ATM. XSN Chart is strong like bull

[Anonymous No.20271676]

Fuck shilling.

We are past the point of shilling.

If you doubt that xsn is the defi and lightning network innovator of the fucking century, login to the fucking discord and test the beta yourself. Fucking open beta groups.

No excuse for people to be this fucking stupid with negative posts.

You fucking pylons

[Anonymous No.20271800]

>>20271439
>I deleted a wallet containing 3 master nodes + spare XSN
why?

[Anonymous No.20272008]

>>20271676

I pity the poor anons that are falling for the weak fud and misinformation. We literally told y'all to buy this at the bottom for months, but instead 90% of /biz/ made fun of us and said they will never deliver. Now that they're about to deliver the first big product and price did a X5 against BTC. the fags that talked shit about the project back then are now seething to death and the narrative is now "it's illegal" lmao. Look where the cope got them, anons on 4chan crying about something being illegal. Priceless

[Anonymous No.20272108]

[Anonymous No.20272278]

So you’re saying if we hit a consistent $1 bill volume per day I will never have to work again?

[Anonymous No.20272294]

In this thread people who think all xsn will be masternodes LOL. Apart from the burned, lost, staked, held on exchange, and in cryptopia hell, no other mn coin comes close to high levels of mn from coins. No where near 50% even at dash at its prime.


This fud is stupid

[PSOW No.20272440]

>1k Cope Stack
>5k Dope Stack
>10k Based Stack
>15k Make it Stack
>25k Dream Stack
>50k+ Friends with Sergey Stack

[Anonymous No.20272470]

>>20272008
Tell them to get a cope stack at least

[Anonymous No.20272653]

>>20271800
It was an accident. I'm used to Etherscan and not holding crypto on hardware wallets.

[Anonymous No.20272702]

>>20272108
>tfw accumulated enough for 1MN over the past week

You're making me dream anon

[Anonymous No.20272728]

>>20272108
I want to be 10 McDonalds™ hamburger establishments

[Anonymous No.20272938]

Staking & master nodes are the next big thing. Few understand the concept.

[Anonymous No.20272992]

>>20272278
Yup, if this dex just happens to beat all 344 other dex's out there, and acquire a billion in trading volume a day, you'll make it. No question.

[Anonymous No.20273121]

>>20272992
>10 posts by this ID

[Anonymous No.20273371]

>>20272992

[Anonymous No.20273442]

>>20272992
How many reasonable alternative dex projects are there?

[Anonymous No.20273597]

>>20273442
Quite a few, actually. This would need insane levels of functionality, ,incredible user experience and marketing to get over 5M trading volume.

[Anonymous No.20273643]

>>20273597
care to name a few?

[Anonymous No.20273740]

>>20273643
>He doesn't know and is currently googling frantically.
Kek.

[Anonymous No.20273747]

>>20273643
Binance DEX
Loopring
Bisq
IDEX
Decred
Blocknet
Switcheo
NASH

[Anonymous No.20273760]

>>20273643
Uniswap, Blocknet, Bisq, etc etc etc. Also if you take like 10 minutes to Google decentralised exchange, you'll be hit with so many new and upcoming exchange projects. What makes YOU think that this one will take millions in daily volume, in a market where there's 300 dex's.

And don't say, muh lightning.

[Anonymous No.20273768]

>>20273747
Alright, I'll take it back. Thank you. What can you tell us about these that would make them better than Stakenet?

[Anonymous No.20273794]

>>20273768
The other way around mate. What makes YOU think that Stakenet will be better than them.

>>20273740
Lol, I was actually rubbing my semi to the 3d anime girl on Twitch. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.20273819]

>>20273794
You already know what we think about stakenet, we've had many threads arguing frantically about it for the past weeks.

[Anonymous No.20273881]

>>20273747
That list in itself is proof why stakenet will be popular.

[Anonymous No.20273974]

>>20273747

Hahahah all those DEXs don't have Lightening and RDN integration

Those DEXs have shithouse orderbooks.

Why would you even mention trash like Binance DEX and Nash?

Have you even tried Loopring? Jesus fucking christ.

[Anonymous No.20274085]

>>20273768
They don't.
>t. 10 MN
>>20273881
>>20273974
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.20274613]

bump

[Anonymous No.20274653]

>>20274613

[Anonymous No.20274738]

>>20274653
kek

[Anonymous No.20274784]

>>20267227
Last I remembered there's around 8 million XSN stuck at cryptopia, not even counting the ones that are in the user's wallet. Though I doubt they'll ever see light ever again since the wallets are encrypted. If the wallets weren't encrypted, the Cryptopia staff would've exit scammed a long time ago.

>>20267052
Changing the collateral is impossible to do. It's hardcoded in the blockchain, many functionalities will cease to exist like LN, Atomic Swaps, and privacy features.

[Anonymous No.20275462]

Been having a look at the different alternative dexes, they all seemingly fucking suck ass.

> Centralized shits requiring accounts and "connecting your wallets". I.e. no trading from your wallet.
> Atomic shits with no LN.
> No liquidity SUCC from other exchanges.
> No masternodes for decentralization and lightning network scalability fix.
> Built on ERC 20 shit tokens
> KYC (I.e. iDex)
> Shitty ass GUIs
> No news for many months or even years.
> No traction or high /biz/ sentiment. I.e. no meme potential or moon potential.

I mean, Idex which seems to be the biggest "Dex" doesn't even seem to come close to the potential of XSN, and has no btc, and no lightning pairs, no btc etc.

Conclusion: They fucking suck.

[Anonymous No.20275606]

ive been watching livecoin all day the trading looks extremely fraudulent
do these dogshit exchanges just do fake trades to show volume and interest when there is none

[Anonymous No.20276114]

>>20275462
I was gonna respond to their retarded arguments.
But you summed it up pretty well.

[Anonymous No.20276322]

>>20275606

[Anonymous No.20276325]

>>20276114

[Anonymous No.20276342]

>>20266973
is this the profit for owning just 1 masternode?

[Anonymous No.20276347]

shits crashing as we speak

[Anonymous No.20276539]

>>20276322
i dont see how your post relates to my post

[Anonymous No.20276551]

>>20275606
I've actually noticed this too.

I genuinely spent all day yesterday watching the price because I was trying to finish accumulating for a MN. I put my buy order in and waited hours for it to be filled as the price kept edging up.

Then I suddenly saw someone sell over 100k xsn for a lower price than what my order was, even though there were barely 10k xsn in buy orders above me and none of those orders got filled.

How the hell did 100k xsn get sold without affecting the buy orders?

It's definitely a shady site in that they're manipulating the volume, but to be fair, Ive probably done about 20 transactions on there depositing and withdrawing with any issues whatsoever and managed to accumulate for an MN in the end.