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>> No.20241623

A TSM pnd could slay the doombull and awaken the doombear

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>> No.20241629
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First for anime.

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First for anime and China making Americans rich again

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I'm the newfag from the last thread, friend told me to avoid options and stick to stocks for a while. Am I doing it right?

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Biz anon whats your most sinful stock pick ever? MSFT for me.

>> No.20241642

I’ll refer you here

>> No.20241649
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This market is crashing with no survivors. Dow pre market dropped to negative one percent at 3 am. Anyone in the market better pull out or get the lube ready

>> No.20241652

You're doing it right but you won't do it that way for long

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>first for anime
Too late, bro. >>20241629

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>> No.20241661

Question for Degiro user. There was the Option between Basic and Custody account. I took the Basic one because it has cheaper transaction costs and what not. But now i am thinking, if i want to invest long term, shouldnt i have gone with custody account? In basic accounts Degiro can borrow your stocks and give you some garbage as compensation. Custody doesnt do that. Did i fuck up if i wanted to go for long term (around 5 years)?

>> No.20241667

There are 3 tech companies that might unleash Armageddon if they or their stock price collapses:
Slight correction:

>> No.20241675
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>no stars in background with no atmosphere
>no crater from ship landing
>no cross pattern over the super imposed flag in the base this was filmed

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Found the Chinese flag. It’s on the ground next to the rocket. Do the Chinese even have telescopes powerful enough to look at Mars???

>> No.20241681

So if wirecard is just going down and down, why not put a lot of puts on it?

>> No.20241697

if you zoom in on the tag on the flag it says made in china

>> No.20241701

> made in China
There you have it

>> No.20241706

probably not so much money to make
but I don't do options and don't really know

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Well they were the first to make a landing on the dark side of the moon so I bet they don't even need them.

>> No.20241717

I believe a TSM pnd could pull down SOXL which would pull down NVDA and cascade from there

>> No.20241722

You think I should start getting into options?

>> No.20241724

Have they figured out what happened to their missing cash?

>> No.20241733

I think you SHOULD keep doing it the way you are
I think you WILL start doing options and you will get fucked
I think there is no way for me to stop it

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>don't do options

>> No.20241741

If you're fine with losing your initial investment when you trade wrong, do it

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I’m sure with their supercar made of stucko and plastic tubing from Home Depot, they will be setting sail for Mars then Neptune even.

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NIO makes Formula 1 racing great again

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HCCH is the new NKLA brother

>> No.20241773

Is GME on an uptrend soon?

>> No.20241775

Is she single

>> No.20241778
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Ugh guys....my mortgage money is split between BP and RDS. I'm down around 15% in both. Any chance if it going back up within a few months?

>pic very related

>> No.20241801

Oil will have a massive massive bull run. We just don’t know when. Hand tough anon. It’s coming

>> No.20241809

Just added possible money laundering.
Seems like an easy bet for it going down further

>> No.20241811

450 shares with an average of $187.
Pajeet ceo better not fuck me in the ass

>> No.20241815

What about natural gas?

>> No.20241816

Oil might "eventually" have a bull run but RDS is not going to benefit from it. They have been selling their gas and oil assets to service debt while also trying to transistion to greener energy.

>> No.20241831

NIO pumping bros

>> No.20241833

Do you really want to talk about american cars?

>> No.20241836

NIO got the banks.

10.4 billion Yaun credit facility from six Chinese banks.

And i fucking sold my calls.

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I need a massive bullrun on the defense sector otherwise I might just an hero...

>> No.20241842

Thanks for the reassurance mate

>> No.20241844

Why would oil have a bull run at all?
Oil reserves around the world are filling up right now and everywhere you look EV companies are popping up
The only force capable of creating a bull run on oil is speculation and who in the world would speculate that we're looking at a boom in oil demand and a lack of supply in at least the next several years?

>> No.20241845

Yeah you’re right. Once oil demand hits 80% precovid levels, Shell stocks will just plummet. Because no one will freak out and buy literally every oil stock they can get their greedy hands on.

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>> No.20241866

OPEC supply dropping and airlines will just ignore covid eventually and just start flying again. Oil back to $60

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Oh right. Because people in this economy are gonna go out and buy $70,000 electric car to replace their 1999 Toyota Corolla. What percentage of vehicles on the road do you imagine are 100% gasoline engines? If you guessed 99.94% you are a winner.

You imagine the oil companies and oil barrons are gonna take this shit and just bend over with high oil reserves? Lol. They will fucking light their oil on fire to create scarcity.

>> No.20241923

Retail is pathetic volume. Big money will not be that deliberately stupid.
You can play oil but don't play dumb oil.

>> No.20241928

not like I wouldn't ever do it but I'm not very experienced yet and it seems very risky

>> No.20241946

Options are incredibly risky. All the people who come on here babbling about how they are financially ruined and going to kill them selves? All options trading. Usually on borrowed money

>> No.20241951

What is not dumb oil?

>> No.20241955

We will see who picks winners in this clown world market. I’m betting on me

>> No.20241956

>paper trading
>live trading
What's the difference? I just want to buy some stocks

newfag here

>> No.20241959

This. Oil will be up to $50 by September.

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>> No.20241982

paper trading is funny munny. Not real USD if that wasn't clear enough. Meant for practicing.

>> No.20241993

so it's just a simulation?

>> No.20241999
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Someone talk me out of dumping all my cash into big tech stocks and ignoring the market for several years.

>> No.20242010

It’s just for fun. Not a bad way to learn. But you learn better lessons with real money. When you lose it hurts and you become more careful

>> No.20242015

Those trips are reason enough.

>> No.20242016

Live trading is losing your actual money, paper trading is losing imaginary money.

>> No.20242027

Yeah. With TD Ameritrade (thinkorswim) you can replay a day of trades. For example you can replay the crash in March. Kinda neat.

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>> No.20242041

Thank you.

>> No.20242046

Hedge your dumb RDS play with collecting pink wojacks
Big, gigantic oil with huge cash and asset reserves. Oil industry is one of the most boom and bust sectors in the world and big oil picks up first. Then after a while smaller oil. Then after THAT is exploratory oil companies and shale. These cycles are years long. And dumb amateur money always gets burned because they think like this boomer that "everyone going to need that oil and this company will be right back where it was". There are bigger supercycles that ride on top of it which can make the "pre-crash price" slide to a new normal up or down. Zoom out on HAL for example.
Really, its just dumb to play oil companies when you could just play the futures contracts directly. Those have to move first before any oil companies can expect their stock prices to move months from now.

>> No.20242047

You are literally experiencing what happens when supply increases beyond demand, prices fall.

What will happen to the price of EVs when there are a bunch of EV manufacturers?

If you are counting on the cost of EVs to save the price of oil, your are in for some real pain.

I'm not saying $60 won't happen in a year or so, but I don't think you're ever going to sniff $100 again for a decade or more.

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Sure, but if you know what you're doing, they can be a much superior way of trading than simply buying equity. I made over ten grand with my first options trades, earlier in the year.

>> No.20242070

>why not put a lot of puts on it?
My broker downgraded Wirecerd and shut down options and shorts on it.

>> No.20242073

Why would anyone talk you out of making phat ROI's?

>> No.20242075

oil forecast even before covid was about 48 for the next years

>> No.20242087

>I'm not saying $60 won't happen in a year or so, but I don't think you're ever going to sniff $100 again for a decade or more.
I think there is some merit to the thesis that oil will have a flash run and crash because of the supply AND demand shock. Fewer producers will survive and it won't take much demand to cause the price to spike. The price spike might make all oil companies overeager to commit resources and run into yet another oil glut.
That would be the time to offload oil company shares if you are bagholding from the crash or play the really dangerous game of oil futures.

>> No.20242110

>I'm not saying $60 won't happen in a year or so, but I don't think you're ever going to sniff $100 again for a decade or more.
Oil will go up once economy goes back to normal after the vaccine. But oil usage is declining and will keep declining.
Future is all about electricity.

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People don’t want electric cars for $45,000. Yes the low end Tesla models might go that low. But the demand isn’t there. Toyota Honda and Ford are basically giving their cars away right now.

Also, the Tesla only really has a range of about 160 miles driven at highway speeds. You need to charge it for 10 hours at home.

Electric cars are toys for the rich. One day the average customer might all buy hybrids or something. We are not even close anon.

And certainly no significant amount of people will sell their gas powered cars in the middle of a recession to buy an electric.

>> No.20242116


A 50,000 WKHS that will give you a tax credit of 7,000 a year. 20,000 solar panels for another tax credit and free gas. Biden's raising taxes y'know? California is making trucks electric mandatory by 2024. With work from home commutes might be a once a week trip instead of every day. Oil demand may never again be what it was in the US.

>> No.20242119

Tell that to the oil bulls
"Return to normal" should fuel a speculation surge but after that is back into the shitter for good.
And I wonder if right now isn't the speculation bubble already

>> No.20242129

Write this down

TSLA will produce an EV within the next couple years that gets respectable range and costs about $20-25g

It will be their Mac Mini and it will bring MANY into the EV world

>> No.20242131

>solar panels and tax credits

Lol you don’t make shit on those anon. You never make money on solar panels and they are fucking AWFUL for the environment.

>> No.20242138

That was the Model 3.
It's an astounding success.

>> No.20242145

I think the white man's electric vehicle company tesla has taken me as far as it can.
I'll be in investing in the yellow mans company NIO now.

>> No.20242149

I’m not aware of any Tesla selling for 25k

>> No.20242156

The Model 3 is a moderately priced EV with respectable range.
And it's a huge success.

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Yeah, I've done the same.

>> No.20242162

fuck off and stay with gas american cars like ford and chevy like a real man

>> No.20242172

The model 3 is going for about $45k now

>> No.20242181

$35k is the starting price.

>> No.20242183

What the fuck is a broker?

>> No.20242185

Realist range is about 160 miles driven at highway speeds.

>> No.20242188

Not after covid.

>> No.20242190

EVs in general but TSLA will not be doing it. That company is better at branding than they are at innovation and design.
>"You are just mad at LE MEME MAN"
Literally the same promises they are making today they made, verbatim, in 2016. They don't have the scale or margins to deliver on most of their promises. Technophiles with no background in the auto industry, AI, or consumer electronics are the ones touting it so unbelievably highly.
This coming from someone who believes oil is still on a secular decline. I think this has created great tailwinds for EVs but TSLA will not be alone.

>> No.20242191

Where do you guys go to know when the earnings call are?

>> No.20242199

Another seer sees the light.

Boomer don't tell people to stay poor.

>> No.20242211

i’m not telling them to be poor dipshit zoomer i’m telling them to regain their masculinity

>> No.20242219

Try ordering one and filling out the paperwork. It’s $45k

>> No.20242228


Time to buy HP?

>> No.20242229

What is going on with airlines? I see layoffs, but also full planes. Places are locking down, but travel is up.

What is happening?

>> No.20242236
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>Realist range is about 160 miles
Lowest-tier model 3 has 220 miles of range.

Yes after covid.
See pic.

See pic.

What the fuck are you doing you schizo.

>> No.20242239

Amazon deliveries

>> No.20242248

those prices and ranges are lies

>> No.20242254

>reduce electricity expenses, with payout for extra energy generated
>reduce tax liability and freeze property tax
>be completely self sufficient for the boogaloo
>drive for free btw

Fuck the environment, there is value there.

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Second Crash just happened, i hope you all sold yesterday

>> No.20242261

I have a model X and the range is pretty accurate.
And the price isn't a lie, even without the tax benefits it's only 6.3k more, which is still well under 40k.
There's a reason it's such a massive success.

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>EV companies are popping up

He fell for the electric Jew
All this election car hype is literally nothing but Elon musk echoes on the market and Elon musk didn't turned TSLA by selling gay ass electric trash, he sold his own brand by shooting faggots in to space, even if we had hyper efficient carbide batteries the world will still be running on fucking gas simply because it would become cheaper.

Don't hold the fucking bags too tight, even gaysla is about to cave in on this electric vehicle tulip mania, you been warned

>> No.20242271

>what is section 179 depreciation deduction

the fucking cybertruck, or any electric truck, will be the best thing to buy if you're a small business owner.

even fucking dentists are going to get it. $7000 tax credit PLUS full deduction on a car? you could buy one and sell it later for 2 years and probably break even. free lease.

section 179 only applies to trucks and work vans btw

>> No.20242273

I'm gonna put 140 into 2 contracts of a really solid stock, we'll see how it goes

>> No.20242274

highly doubt it kiddo

>> No.20242280

>costs above include potential incentives and gas savings of $6300
Anon, I...

>> No.20242283

Where does the electricity for your vehicles come from? Some hydro, some nuclear, some oil, etc. People don't have enough to spend on a Tesla right now. It'll take infrastructure changes to bring electric to the forefront, oil will recover to where it used to be in the short run, then slow decline long term

>> No.20242286

nothing makes me angrier than people buying EVs and EV stocks, they’ve gotta be mindless zoomers

>> No.20242291

Highly doubt what?

Even with that $6.3k, it's still well under 40k.

>> No.20242299

Now go to the check out and post the total.

>> No.20242300

Sorry but NIO is up 6%, China is rallying, Europe is up. Its looking good.

>> No.20242302

Any stocks that aren't too volatile but can do decent gains per week?
I've looked at Docusign, TSM, Square, AMD, NVDA....

>> No.20242304

that you’re telling the truth

>> No.20242305

About what?

>> No.20242308

Thier shilling dude. Obviously following a script and being completely deceptive about everything.

>> No.20242311

about you owning one and the price and range

>> No.20242318

NET, but do your DD. Looks promising

>> No.20242319

it’s very frustrating to see these threads get overrun by tech idiots and people shilling electric cars

>> No.20242321

I just hate not buying on the tulip mania when it started, I just hate being so new at the stock market that I can't guess the trends but I learn fast, I think we still got another month of tech trash pumping because that's where everybody feels safe right now, but next month oil is going to start pumping and tech is going to start deflating.

Don't follow my advice I been wrong most of the year now and we're already half way there

>> No.20242329

Anon, it's at 38k. On the first page no less. Even then, at 30k it would still be considered a luxury vehicle.

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Here's a pic I took during some heated cybertruck debates.

>> No.20242333

Also interested, something with a +15% upside, preferably with high volume and won't get q2 results rug pulled

>> No.20242339

that’s not proof of anything shill

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>> No.20242345

DD? Due diligence?

>> No.20242349 [DELETED] 

(you need to remove the reat seats though)

>> No.20242357

38k is still well under 40k.

>luxury vehicle
Holy shit anon.
The most sold vehicle in the US (F150) starts at around 30k.

Not if you have severe cognitive dissonance, no.

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>> No.20242365

Today's picks of the day are to invest in rope manufacturers and biohazard clean up crews. Lots of people will become an hero after the bogs get our animal spirits all frenzied and we just sell everything on new corona virus fears.

>> No.20242373

Dude... piss off. No one wants to buy your fucking electric cars man. They lie about the price because it gets people in the door. There is a massive shortage of Tesla’s available, so they jack up the price when it’s time to sign the paper work.

It’s still a rich person’s toy. Tesla still can’t mass produce and you will be on a waiting list for a fucking year before
You get your car.

>> No.20242374

You are way overestimating how many people can afford a 30k car.

>> No.20242375

Yes. I bought way earlier and don't want to burn anyone with bad advice. Just making a suggestion

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>No one wants to buy your fucking electric cars man

>> No.20242385

Earnings for the next two weeks could be messy. A lot is riding on Trump getting a very generous bill signed into law by August 1. And starting August 1 real estate will likely begin to feel the effects of the shutdown. Foreclosures and evictions.

>> No.20242387

go away EV shill, this is a real mans thread with gas vehicle owners and oil CHADS

>> No.20242391

Thanks buddy. I'll watch it closely cause it has been quite volatile in the last week.

>> No.20242401

You can’t get it for less than 40 something. See below

>> No.20242405

this so much

>> No.20242407 [DELETED] 

I own a V8 truck as well.
My wife likes the Tesla though.

>You are way overestimating how many people can afford a 30k car.

No I'm not.
The F150 starts around $30k and is the most sold vehicle in the US.
You are way overestimating how many people can afford a 30k car.

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>no one knows except you that earnings will be messy

>> No.20242412

>DXY and 10yr sliding down almost together
I have no idea how to interpret this

>> No.20242413

They're bringing back the Hummer, 100% electric. I dunno if they scrapped the plan on covid-19 fears though.

>> No.20242416

Nope, it's a Toyota. As of last year at least.
The Rav4 costs under 26k before options and shit.

>> No.20242424

This is your economy on BRRRRR.

>> No.20242430

Looks good, but why this week?

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They laughed at him, now they become the joke.

>> No.20242434

Any WATT bros here? The mooning will start in a few days, r-right?

>> No.20242437

You can get it for 38k.
But the incentives are very real, a Tesla is an extremely cheap car to own.

That's "cars".
I'm talking about vehicles.

Your article says Toyota Camry with 337,000 sales.
Meanwhile the F150 sells nearly a million.

>> No.20242438

This. In a world of uncertainty, this is one of the things that's obvious even to retards like myself.

>> No.20242442

>people shilling tech
>they go down to chipmakers and wafer producers and whatnot

>people shilling ev's
>just shilling car companies not battery producers or heavy metal miners


>> No.20242446

I own a V8 truck as well.
My wife likes the Tesla though.

>You are way overestimating how many people can afford a 30k car.

No I'm not.
The F150 starts around $30k and is the most sold vehicle in the US.

>> No.20242450

Bros you've seen virgin galactic today?

>> No.20242454

Cut your losses and buy stuff like TSM. It is literally an unstoppable train right now.

>> No.20242455

Because they are just fads. We're chasing moons We're not investing for fundamentals.

>> No.20242456

In my personal case, it comes from my solar panels.

>> No.20242458

I got $200 in
Would be nice if it went to $5-$6

>> No.20242461

>PR and advertising budgets
Both are effective just in different ways.

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>> No.20242492

You guys do realize that the man currently leading in the Presidential polls by 10 points has embraced the green new deal right? Highly likely that electric is going to be forced upon us. For better or worse.

>> No.20242496

Trump will win, trust the motherfucking plan. EVs are a dying fad

>> No.20242497

Korean batteries: foreigners can't buy Korean stocks directly. Japanese batteries: Japanese stock market has had like 3% annual growth the last 25 years. Mining companies in general are badly run, which is why you see them trading at such a heavy discount compared to their equivalent futures or spot prices (e.g. gold).

And chasing batteries for EVs is cutting close to valuations based on reality in an industry that's highly speculative.

>> No.20242500

real investors do not care about monthly sways.

Be in it for 10 years or go play with your chinese PnDs.

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I've got a new goal. 300k by 35.
If I can do that, I can make it.

>> No.20242509

Joe Biden's timeline for transitioning out of fossil fuels in his last debate with Bernie was like by 2040 or some shit, he's kicking the can down the road for the next Dem prezzie.

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>trusting polls

>> No.20242513

EV market caps make no sense unless you assume that only 1 of those EV companies survives and provides the entire world supply of cars. AND that it dramatically increases the number of people who own a car.
I'm long the sector but its gotten way, way, way, WAY ahead of itself.

>> No.20242515

The president is just the PR guy. He doesn't really take any decision.

>> No.20242519

I live too long to trust any presidential polls.

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>> No.20242536

>still goes down

>> No.20242539

It wont stop. I hope you sold or your stock. Wirecard is fucked and i expect it to be 0€ at some point.

>> No.20242550

if only you knew how to math you wouldn't be so god damn stupid.

science says you're stupid.

>> No.20242556

>he can't hold his EV bags for 20 years
Ironhands my friend, ironhands

>> No.20242563

What's your capital and how old are you?

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Well I was very dumb and it's only a little bit.

>> No.20242580

Who else here buying Nvidia if its red today

>> No.20242591

Me maybe, not sure if Nvidia, AMD or MFST tho.

>> No.20242593

Nvidia is gonna dab on big-tech really hard. We're gonna make it

>> No.20242608

Yeah and Trump's VP and Secretary of Energy literally debuted a new EV truck a couple weeks ago. Trump would push it just to grow the economy.
I don't think Joe is running the show.
Hillary was up by nearly the same margin at this point in 2016. Large enough margin to hedge against, he told us yesterday taxes are going up.
Even worse, AOC would be running the show.
Hedging for two outcomes on a coinflip means you win either way.

>> No.20242613

Already got microsoft and Amazon. Nvidia seems like the logical next investment

>> No.20242615

>the world will still be running on fucking gas simply because it would become cheaper
because if there's one thing the middle east does, is to respond to the market honestly and lower their prices when demand is down as opposed to grinding production to a halt and spending the rest of their time putting everybody else out of business
saudi arabia and iraq will just give up their cash cows, accept that oil prices need to go down, and learn to build EVs

as EVs become more popular, gas cars will become more and more expensive to drive
states will increase the already ludicrous taxes per gallon as fewer gallons are sold

you really don't see the handwriting on the wall?

i'm not saying EVs are better. but they are the future and there is no way around it

>> No.20242617

29 and 56K

>> No.20242621

>The price isn't a lie, its only $6300 more than the listed price!
What you are describing is what is normally referred to as "lying".

>> No.20242623

you're gonna wreck yourself

>> No.20242625

You can make it, good luck friend

>> No.20242627

ALRIGHT BOIZ! New fucking day, new fucking dip, what we all in with later?? We ride together we die together you fucking monkeys!

>> No.20242635

You have two possible scenarios here:
>You win and gain false confidence, leading you to make irrational bets and eventually losing a lot more than your initial gain
>You lose and with that become scared to touch options again.
Just know that whether you win or lose, at this point in your trading career it was purely a speculative gamble and you got lucky or didnt. Dont use the outcome of your first options trade as a basis for how good you are in options.
t. Made 1k in first options then lost 3k

>> No.20242641

How many pieces, i am curious? Is it worth getting only 1 AMZN or 3 MSFT?

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Not the most, but I'm pretty poor at the moment; just lost 200 on workhorse so I'm playing it slow and safe for a while

>> No.20242669

This has the look to be one of those multi-day big dippers. I won't be buying back in too early this time.

>> No.20242689

What makes you say that?

>> No.20242691

amazon goes up like 100-200 a day per share

>> No.20242693

I'm with you, I bought a few dips, went up 7% by closing yesterday

>> No.20242698

good post anon, gj

It says it right there though.
And the incentives are very real.

>> No.20242709

And how high can Amazon even go? I mean its already on 3k per share.

>> No.20242732

bought some, anon. You can expect it to drop any minute now.

>> No.20242735

Do you think NKLA has the potential to go back up to 70$ range soon?

>> No.20242739

it could always split. doesnt matter if the ATH is a huge number. all that really matters is how the company is performing. in Amazon's case, theyre basically the new walmart, no?

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>> No.20242743

Im seriously considering putting 1000$ in SQQQ.
Tell me not to. I really feel the big correction will happen late september at the latest. Probably sooner

>> No.20242749

Can you do fractional shares? If not just do leaps like June 2022

>> No.20242758

They make up such a large share of the index too, if they crash a lot of other things will crash too

>> No.20242760

the ETFs are going to doom us all

>> No.20242763

Did you write that? I like your penmanship.

>> No.20242764

Futures falter as investors fear of Dr Powell panic concerns on covid earnings oil, stocks sore amid tensions between Fauci and China

>> No.20242766

>europe slowly crabbing up
>meanwhile us futures red
Not this shit again

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>> No.20242785

what do you mean by "this shit" ?

>> No.20242788

I can't read it.

>> No.20242793

this mf wrote the declaration of independence

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Going balls deep on a short because you have a doomy feel is a time tested and triple A certified award winning way to lose a bunch of money.

>> No.20242808

didn't get it
try again

>> No.20242812

Amazon is way more than just a supermarket. They have logistics capability, and will only capture more and more of the market as The Mall becomes a ghost town. Not to mention AWS is one of the main backbones of the internet. Prime video, kindles, Alexas, Fire TV, Audible, video game studio, drones, automated cars... Amazon may actually be too big to fail, and they are in tight with the NSA.

>> No.20242815

NIO 16 at open??

>> No.20242818

convince why i shouldn't sell horse at breakeven? give me one and i mean one reason to hold this worthless donkey stock.

>> No.20242828

why did you buy it in the first place

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As soon as you sell it you’ll get bogged

>> No.20242830

By late September your SQQQ will have decayed by 50%. You're better off holding a long dated put

>> No.20242833

>EV market caps make no sense
This and only this.

TSLA can be worth more than Toyota.
Can't sell EVs in countries where there is not even running electricity.

I warned you guys, Euro stocks aren't mickey mouse stuff like US.
It's going down to ZERO.
I'm even amazed it still pumped to 5€ last week.

>> No.20242839

Potentially being the sole vehicle used for the USPS? Is that not enough?

>> No.20242842

Because the stock has more potential than you do as a trader. NGMI

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Frens, should I cash out of my tech position or let it run. This is getting scary. Everyone is betting on FAANG and this reminds me of June 8th. I don't want to be bogged

>> No.20242850

He seouled
poomp eet

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A new EV contender arrives....ticker SPAQ

>> No.20242899

Not sure if i can do that. Didnt see that option. Only full share.

>> No.20242908
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Guys, in your opinion, what are the best US stocks to buy in anticipation of the Orange Man's re-election?
I'm thinking:
I think these are solid picks, but there's probably better ones out there. Thoughts?

>> No.20242909

I was going to forge a copy of the decclaration of independence, but I never got around to working on iit, and then I lost my nib holder so I'm fucked.

>> No.20242911

Fisker again?

>> No.20242919

Yeah I’m in at 17 for 50 shares Pajeet don’t worry

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Oh is it time for the hype cycle to swing back to SPCE?

>> No.20242940

2 days late on that one
>but this one is real!
they are all being used as PNDs whether they are real or not

>> No.20242950

Literally anything. Biden made it clear he is coming for Wall Street's money. If Trump can win DOW 40k EOY 2021 except unironically.

>> No.20242963

NIO and WKHS are now the same price per share. Im in both but heavily leaning more towards WKHS. Should I buy an even number of calls between the two?

>> No.20242979

NIO is going straight to the moon.

>> No.20242984

fine i will keep it for few more days

>literally filed for insolvency

>> No.20242989

Biden will say anything to get elected though.

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I didn't notice it till today....

chart sure looks healthy....nice, sustained growth

>> No.20242995

biden can't say anything
that's his main problem and it's only going to get worse

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NIO has 6 banks throwing money at it. Moon mission confirmed

>> No.20243024

chinese banks being forced at gunpoint, literally, to throw yuan (not money) at bullshit carmaker

let me hitch my horse up to that wagon

>> No.20243031


Both RTX and LMT will not be doing good under Trump. If Biden wins (unlikely, but who knows what kike will pull) then RTX and LMT will fucking moon as war with Iran will be inevitable.

>> No.20243040

Nvidia up premarket 0.97. Just want a little dippypoo

>> No.20243055


>> No.20243060

true democrats love bombing defenseless shitholes. obama is a war criminal

>> No.20243083

I like NUE as a steel play over X but who knows

>> No.20243087

TSM and MSFT are dipping a little.

>> No.20243093

Is this my last chance to buy TSM below $65?

>> No.20243123

I have $700 that I want to split between tech. I’m going to buy in $ amounts and not shares. Suggest some good amounts to throw into each

>> No.20243129

Lol China wins once again.
China pumps their own stocks due to nationalistic pride.
JEWmerica dumps and forces prices down to fuck over everyone in the interest of greed.
Would you rather make money? Or give it to the JEW? The choice is yours.

>> No.20243137

Probably. They are still undervalued.

>> No.20243145

Biden is just the best conduit the Democrats could come up with, He will resign from dementia/alzheimer's in the first year. He's just a mouthpiece and trojan horse to guarantee a female president.

>> No.20243150

NUE is the Coca Cola of Steel - Jim Cramer

>> No.20243151

So, im the retard sold my $15 Nio calls yesterday out of fear.

Is there a call i can take for 50 bucks to earn some money off of it ? Any NIO calls for 50 ?

>> No.20243163

EVs are the future but that future is still quite a ways away. The entire industrial world runs on oil. We are still in some form of corona related restriction in most of the world. Many businesses are still shut down which has a chain effect on transportation and the supply chain as a whole.
I'm long on oil and will likely buy a little more once XOM goes below 40.

t. Holding TSLA and XOM

>> No.20243186

that means literally nothing you fucking retard

>> No.20243212

Not in terms of market cap, but in terms of delta and percentage increase due to price movement it means something, yes.

>> No.20243223

When will get NET hit 50?

>> No.20243225

thats Formula E, not Formula 1.
Which makes sense, cause theyre electric car company after all.

>> No.20243232

If you're going to keep gambling with this shit use an options calculator and set a sell target for both profit and loss. You're going to go broke though before you learn your lesson.

>> No.20243234

When I finished banging your mother in the ass

>> No.20243237

>there are people here who unironically buy stocks based on their political beliefs
Is /smg/ retarded?

>> No.20243242

>American garbage WKHS literally going back to $10 today
> NIO breaking $20 today because China will pump it beyond jewmerican big money trying to dump it
FUCK jewmerica

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I’ve been making a ton of money by buying meme stocks and selling them before they dump. My dad says put half my money in tech and keep doing what I’m doing with the other half. Should I buy Microsoft with half my money?

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im margin called for the day fucking never take out margin because if you dont have the cash sitting in your robinhood account 24/7 of exactly hwo much you took margin out

theyre going to block your account and cost you money every red day

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>> No.20243267

what are you dads stock returns compared to yours?

>> No.20243286

an entire nation of people manipulating markets and stealing money from people much more powerful than themselves militarily

where have i seen this before...
can't quite remember how that ended for them...

>> No.20243287

are you planning on holding? how long have you had these stocks?

>> No.20243289

Israel's doing fine if I recall correctly

>> No.20243301

how long did it take?

>> No.20243309

Why does WKHS insist on hurting me so?

I'm still up by over 2k on it, but goddamn it's a slow death.

>> No.20243311

You think jewmerica will ever do anything against China?
that’s a sure fire way to starts world war 3. No one would ever try that. Besides economically and politically it would be suicide. STUPID Americans want their cheap goods. Take that away and they’ll turn on you.

>> No.20243316

you think it's going to be at how much?

>> No.20243331

yeah because we all know america won't go to war over money
you're right
i'm sure nothing bad will happen
america will just bend over

>> No.20243335

in 1940s Israel had their state instantly created out of nothing. If theyre not the winners of WW2, then nobody was.

>> No.20243344

that's a man and a very ugly one kys

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Thoughts on SPG?
It seems to me like a Recovery above 100$ is pretty much inevitable once Corona and the rioting is finished in a couple months and Christmas approaches. Plus they've already cut their dividend and it's still pretty great while a second cut doesn't appear very probable to me...

>> No.20243365

Exactly. Cowardly jewmerica will continue to capitulate to Chinese demands.
Look at your trash stocks. WKHS is going back to below $10 cause Jews want to fuck over as many Americans as they can.
China has nationalistic pride and pumps their own stocks. NIO is heading for $20 today because of that ~
Jewmerica TAKES your money.
China GIVES you money.
Any other argument is delusional.

>> No.20243371

Had them for two days, gonna keep them until earnings at least

>> No.20243378

Looks like a pump and dump scheme.

>> No.20243383

Should I buy calls or sell puts on bullish stocks?

>> No.20243384

I guess we'll see.
Careful crossing the street.

>> No.20243386

nobody ever gives you money, retard

>> No.20243387


>> No.20243401

NIO and GSX have literally been free money. But I don’t expect a stupid jewmerican to know that. Have fun losing money on manipulated trash like WKHS

>> No.20243405

Keep half of your money in cash and wait for the tech pullback. Then buy Microsoft. Good work, and best of luck.

>> No.20243410
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>> No.20243414

Dump coming today.

>> No.20243427

Trading platform goes down hour and half before markets open very suspicious

>> No.20243430

China doesn’t have an amazon equivalent, or Tesla, or Walmart, or facebook, or apple etc. America is better

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>> No.20243433

>jewmerican thinking that actually works
Lmao still not gonna save your from losing ALL your money in garbage WKHS. Bend the knee and buy NIO. It’s free money.

>> No.20243444

动态网自由门天安门天安门法轮功李洪志Free Tibet 六四天安门事件The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安门大屠杀The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派斗争The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大跃进政策The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人权Human Rights 民运Democratization 自由Freedom 独立Independence 多党制Multi-party system 台湾台湾Taiwan Formosa 中华民国Republic of China 西藏土伯特唐古特Tibet 达赖喇嘛Dalai Lama 法轮功Falun Dafa 新疆维吾尔自治区The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 诺贝尔和平奖Nobel Peace Prize 刘暁波Liu Xiaobo 民主言论思想反共反革命抗议运动骚乱暴乱骚扰扰乱抗暴平反维权示威游行李洪志法轮大法大法弟子强制断种强制堕胎民族净化人体实验肃清胡耀邦赵紫阳魏京生王丹还政于民和平演变激流中国北京之春大纪元时报评论共产党 独裁 专制 压制 统一 监视 镇压 迫害 侵略 掠夺 破坏 拷问 屠杀 活摘器官 诱拐 买卖人口 游进 走私 毒品 卖淫 春画 赌博 六合彩 天安门 天安门 法轮功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 刘晓波动态网自由门

>> No.20243452

NIO soon
Their markets are all like Walmart If you’ve been in one.
Try again loser jewmerican.

>> No.20243469

I can't afford to play with you guys. This is fucking bullshit

>> No.20243470

I'm selling around 75, mostly because I I'm starting to hold a more cash heavy position. Some Anons have speculated that it's going to 100 and I can totally see that, but I'm nervous at the moment and have already made a lot from that position. I think their earnings report will be super solid.

>> No.20243484

Happens literally all the time. You think that wallstreet was gonna let you win easy?

>> No.20243486

Wage slave for abit and don’t spend any money, or get a margin account

>> No.20243490

None of those are remotely as succesful as their "counterparts". Go run over a child, chink

>> No.20243492

Between my last post and this, failed American stock WKHS has lost another $0.05. Meanwhile NIO continues to March to $16 undisturbed.
Buy Chinese stocks. It’s free money that American Jews can’t force down :))

>> No.20243501

this chinaman shit is getting old faster than the kpop asshole

>> No.20243504


>> No.20243515

This anon works for the FT. Say hello!

>> No.20243518

Don’t panic sell.

>> No.20243521

Oh rly? Well now I just feel dirty. Fuck this then.

>> No.20243524

I have a job and I have a small account. Ever since I liquidated RH and put it into webull 2 weeks ago its been bleeding. Literally every stock

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>> No.20243533

>this fucking WKHS week
I'm forever going to kick myself for trading this like a dumbass. Time to kms

>> No.20243540

I know that feel. I’m bagholding so many trades waiting for Powell to turn this shit around

>> No.20243558

getting fucked by the shorts right now
they're holding it just above -10%
if we go into the $14 range after 9:30 you can be completely assured that the entire thing is being controlled by shorts and you can either just ride it out and wait, or you can get out

>> No.20243559

Just wait for the printer to start up again. You’ll be fine.

>> No.20243560

Well, you have been doing this for the past 12 hours anon. Take a break, get some coffee/tea, and prepare to execute your plays.

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>> No.20243578

I-I just woke up anon what do you mean the last 12 hours?

>> No.20243582
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the new meme on 4chan is call everyone you dont like a chink

you can just block them out of your thinking totally as long as you think they are a chink

>> No.20243593

>XOM under 40
Check out MMP too when that goes under 40.

>> No.20243596

you're not the only one doing the new chinaman meme

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7$ 7/17 SQQQ puts. Don't get greedy, and thank me later.

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>> No.20243620

(((Bolsheviks))) got to rape eastern europe for half a century. They definitely won out.

>> No.20243621

Those cars are plastic toys. They look like shit and have cheap plastic chink rims. Get a real car

>> No.20243623

If you’re still holding horse bags you may as well hold until the bid results are released.

>> No.20243638

Forex traders are known homosexuals

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>> No.20243642

And risk having it go back to $5? Because that's entirely possible.

>> No.20243650

remember don't make major plays during the first hour of the market, anon. :)

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>> No.20243674

Shut the FUCK up, chink

>> No.20243684

Then why are you still holding instead of selling after the red day when it hit 20?

>> No.20243687

I'm bagging TSM asap.

>> No.20243690

fuck that
I'm selling everything

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>> No.20243705

Uhm, I just went long with my entire account

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Im so tired and i have to go to work again fuck my life

>> No.20243717

Fuck u I’m in calls

>> No.20243737

Enjoy being a slave to the man. You’ll be free and ready to enjoy life to the fullest when you’re 65 at least.

>> No.20243743

CNBC just shilled semiconductors for 10 minutes.

>> No.20243751

New thread

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>> No.20243806

Outstanding work

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>> No.20243818

Hahahah have fun holding your bags fgt

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At least you did your best anon

>> No.20243854

>this guy here is playing the stock market

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>> No.20243888

Told you guys to buy ASMI

>> No.20243942

Go back to wherever you came from.

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