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>>20005397

>> No.20006590
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20006590

WOOO

>> No.20006598

Waiting for the opportunity to jump VIX..

>> No.20006612

WKHS 13.75 resistance is retreating. looks like they're loading up at 14

>> No.20006613
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20006613

STALLIONS

>> No.20006614
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20006614

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.20006616

>>20006590
why won't the horse stop trying to buy back in but it just won't quit

>> No.20006621

First for KTOV

>> No.20006630

>>20006590
Reminder that this is a blue board.

>> No.20006633

>my IAG stock went green
I-I'm not ready

>> No.20006637
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20006637

bears are forbidden to cum

>> No.20006640

I FUCKING LOVE HORSIES

>> No.20006642

>>20006621
old gains buddy come back when its getting bought out

>> No.20006644

Who /wkhs&shll/ here? Don’t forget the tortoise!

>> No.20006646
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20006646

DENN bros

>> No.20006648
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20006648

When your entire portfolio is red but the horse has you up 2000 bucks on the day

>> No.20006651

So if the horse is priced at $16, does that mean we’ll see a sell off at $16?

>> No.20006652

who /neigh/ here?

>> No.20006654

When do we profit take lads I cant handle this anymore

>> No.20006655

>>20006630
Its a horse anon

>> No.20006658

I put most my money into KTOV, wish I would have put more into WKHS :(
Whats word on KTOV bois?

>> No.20006660
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Bros I’m 24, fit, and handsome. When the horse makes me rich how will I know if girls are fucking me for my good looks and good personality or my money?

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20006661

>people actually doubted the horse

>> No.20006671
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20006671

OH GOD I OVERSLEPT AGAIN

WHAT THE FUCK I MISSED THE DIIIIIIPPPP!!!!!!!!

>> No.20006673

>>20006658
End of month moon, early July

>> No.20006674
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CANT KEK THE ZUCK

>> No.20006676

>>20006654
Use trailing stops nignog

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>>20006568

OIL BROS , WE FINALLY GOING GREEN

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20006684

>mfw memed 1000 shares of horsies at the dip
thanks fellas

>> No.20006690

buy IDEX or no?

>> No.20006694

13.75 WKHS resistance got BOUGHT
there's a lot of profit taking sneaking under the 14 mark though. if we break through that it's a clear shot to 15 unless resistance continues to move in .25 increments as they've been all day

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if the HORSE closes above $____ I will ______

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>>20006679
>he doesn't have OVV

>> No.20006705

finally idex bounce back

>> No.20006708

>>20006694
Thank you Nahmatuha Mumabasa. Very expert!

>> No.20006711

I don't have enough ponies to make it

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WENDYS AND NXPI DIPPED AND I MISSED IT!!!!!!

>> No.20006721
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Secondary Market Corporate Credit Facility Transaction-specific Disclosures (XLSX) (June 28, 2020)

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>>20006655
STILL GETS ME HORNY

>> No.20006725

Would have doubled my money on WKHS if I wasn't a pussy and cashed out my initial investment at 25% up. Don't be a pussy kids.

>> No.20006728
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20006728

Yes Yess NatGas
ahk ahk ahk ahk

>> No.20006734

SOMEBODY HORSEPILL ME

>> No.20006739

no clear WKHS resistance until 15
support has moved up from 12.50 to 13

>> No.20006741

We're hitting $15 before lunch niggas

>> No.20006742

If you sell WKHS below 20 you're a melvin pussy

>> No.20006750

BROKE THROUGH 14
>BROKE THROUGH 14
HOLY SHIT
>HOLY SHIT

>> No.20006758

>>20006742
it will be $50 EOY $300 next summer

>> No.20006759

>>20006698
0.01
Let Mio step on my face

>> No.20006760

Also bought INO and TTNP. Dumped SHLL and KTOV thinking they would come back down to earth and I could buy more. WKHS is my only shorty keeping me green and at this point it's going to turn into a long hold

>> No.20006764

remember yesterday where the guy in the "professional TA group" said they were dumping WKHS and buying back at $2

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH faggot

>> No.20006765
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>>20006750
HORSES ARE CUTE! CCUUTTEE!

>> No.20006769

HORSEPILL ME
I'M FOMOING
HORSEPILL ME
I'M FOMOING
HORSEPILL ME
I'M FOMOING
HORSEPILL ME
I'M FOMOING

>> No.20006770

Big green horse dildos

>> No.20006776
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20006776

are you boys gonna buy some ketamine with your horsey gains?

>> No.20006779

Bought horses at 13, not getting fucked by a drop out of nowhere. If it dips, i'm buying more.

>> No.20006783

WKHS RSI is back up above 70. around 80
support was forming at the old resistance right at 14 but then disappeared
current pressure is upward aiming at 15

>> No.20006788

It's a good thing Samar Patel is offering his expert analysis here. Next Cramer!

>> No.20006791

I'm literally going to fuck a horse

>> No.20006792

>>20006769
just buy it i promise it will go down when you do

>> No.20006796

Just bought
get fukt

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>>20006722
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.20006806

We have a new market term.
Bear gang? No sir.
Bull gang? No sir.
Kang gang? No sir.
Horse gang? Neigh sir.

Also I sold a bunch of WKHS puts for free cash.

>> No.20006808

>>20006679
i just sold my HAL only holding SSL fuck oil

>> No.20006814

if WKHS breaks 15 it'll shoot up again
main support is still at 13 with some trying to form at 14
profit takers look like they're actually getting out of their own way

>> No.20006818
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20006818

This is what 100% gains looks like.

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20006821

I missed out on the horse, bros. Hold me.

>> No.20006824

WKHS 17 by EOD

choo choo

>> No.20006831

i only have 21 shares of wkhs at 8.40. when should I buy again?

>> No.20006834

>>20006788
i'm reporting the order book for people who can't see it, you insufferable faggot
filter me

>> No.20006835

>>20006818
i want in so fucking badly i literally watched it dip to 30

>> No.20006839

can't believe i bought some chinese stock and not WKHS last time I betray my country like this

>> No.20006846

I've loaded the Horse with my bags and they burden me no longer

>> No.20006848

Missed out on buying the WKHS? Scared of dips?
Sell WKHS puts for free 20% gains! WKHS dips and your puts print? No problem, sell calls!

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>>20006697

Yo oil bro, im keeping my finger off those little wannabe oil corps.
Imma stick to my big bois XOM and RDSB.

BP is cucked, they just sold their petrochemical industries to INEOS.

>> No.20006852

>>20006834
keep doing gods work anon

>> No.20006857

>>20006821
Thats what I keep telling myself until I FOMOd at 13 and its on its way to 15 already
Its not too late

>> No.20006859

>>20006821
me too, but there's always another play

LIKE JUST THIS MORNING I MISSED THE DIPS IN WENDYS AND NXPI!!!!!!

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20006861

TO THE BULLCHADS!

>> No.20006862

Tried to get into some MSFT calls to scalp but the price action today is just too rocky. I backed out with an $80 profit, but that was on something like $1.1K in. Not a great return (right now my preferred threshold is $250 a trade), but I'll never regret taking profit.

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>>20006824
if WKHS goes to 17 by the end of the day I am going to a ranch and tell the horses that I love them and kiss one right on the head

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YAHOO FINANCE YOU SAY THIS SHIT IS DUMPING IT BETTER BE

>> No.20006867

>>20006824
I was thinking 30. Bought puts last week to inverse biz. That was ill advised.

>> No.20006869

>>20006818
I still don't understand what is this company. I regret not just going with it last tuesday it started getting shilled, but frankly I saw no compelling argument.

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>>20006821
We told you bro, we told you about Workhorse.

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>>20006834
keep posting anon i value your expert analysis. all i see is line go up line go down

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>>20006788
based pajeet

>> No.20006887

I just fomo'd, sorry for the coming crash

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WE APPROACHING 15.00 GET READY HORSIES

>> No.20006896

>>20006850
Is this photo illegal?
>>20006866
Bring them carrots

>> No.20006897

>>20006783
Cheers. I've got a laptop on 25% battery and i'm starting to get goncerned.

>> No.20006903
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20006903

Missed WKHS. Oh well, I'm not going to FOMO in.

>> No.20006907

>>20006887
Based. Thank you for ruining their fun

>> No.20006908

crab levels are 14-15 for WKHS right now. RSI is still at 80 and all upward moves are high volume
very large profit taking wall just went up at 14.70

>> No.20006912

Averaged WKHS @$7.46
If I see >100% eod I will unironically k hole myself tonight

>> No.20006919

DO I BUY THIS HORSE DIP?

>> No.20006920
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my memes are up 4-5% on no news


can't wait for them to drop 10% tomorrow, also on no news

>> No.20006932

>>20006870
>$2.04 average cost
Holy shit.. only if you put in $50k.

>> No.20006934

pretty sure 14 support on WKHS just got sold. it didn't go anywhere. reforming slightly but pressure is still up but now aiming at the large ask at 14.70

>> No.20006949

WKHS - just think if this hits 90 per... or more.. Buying now is still mad gains for you

>> No.20006952

>>20006912
what the fuck is k hole

>> No.20006957

OOF, the company that took down wirecard, Mirabaud Securities, has released a list of "20 warning signs to determine the next big disaster"
They're pointing the finger at Elon hahaha. Things seem to be closing in, how much longer till the Tesla scam gets absolutely blown the fuck up?

>> No.20006958

TANVEER YOU'RE SO SMART - WHERE'S YOUR NEWSLETTER? PLS SIR DO GOOD BUY IN!

>> No.20006960

>>20006903
I unfortunately sold my WKHS calls earlier this morning, but I refuse to fomo in now as well.
Balls deep in CLDR atm

>> No.20006963
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>>20006684
Same. Wish I bought more but profit is profit.

>> No.20006964

>Lost some money on open from a shitty day trade
>FOMO into WKHS
>already made my money back and climbing
I cant believe I couldve bought this at 5 better late than never I guess

>> No.20006969

>>20006932
Please don’t encourage stupidity.

>> No.20006971
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>>20006896
idk, but thats not gonna stop me

>> No.20006970

>>20006903
based
where can it go from here without contract confirmation???

>> No.20006974

>>20006934
The reason why there's a support wall that gets sold and does nothing to the market is because WKHS is backed by fundamentals and potential government deals.. unlike some other EV shitface company (cough NKLA)

>> No.20006976

>>20006952
when you take a shit ton of ketamine and your brain literally turns off

>> No.20006978

>>20006834
keep up the play-by-play fren, thanks

>> No.20006981

>>20006952
ngmi

>> No.20006982

WKHS has downward pressure at the moment but bouncing off the 14 support. main support is still holding at 13 and not chasing yet
sell walls at 14.70 and 15 and probably not enough upward pressure to push through both

>> No.20006986

>>20006952
It's ketamine not ketayours

>> No.20007005

I hate to say it but WKHS is such a boomer hold for me it's a 5-10 year investment if you sell before 100 you're a fool

>> No.20007006
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>>20006920

we gonna make it anon.

>> No.20007009

>>20006568
I need an honest opinion folks. My 401k from my former employer is currently up 10% YTD as of today and today looks to be having a small bounce up. I'm really getting tired of all the volatility and I don't see any sign of this shit slowing down. I'm thinking about selling out of all of my mutual funds and letting the money sit in cash for a while. Is now a good time? I just don't see how the market can maintain any upward momentum with COVID ramping up and all the negativity out there against Trump and the economy in general. I'm not going to try to time the market or anything, that's what my brokerage accounts are for. But I might wait for things to crash hard and then buy in and hold for a long term recovery.

What do you think?

>> No.20007014

>>20006970
I'm probably going to be called out for this but I'm getting the same vibes that I got when the tankerbulls were still posting their /tsg/ threads

>OIL STORAGE! CONTANGO! BIG DIVVIES!
>USPS CONTRACT!

>> No.20007018

>>20006974
i'm not offering analysis or opinions i'm just stating what's happening
again. i OWN 500 WKHS i want it to moon

strong upward pressure right now. small sell wall at 14.50 but 14.70 is the main resistance

>> No.20007025

Thank you horse of plenty

>> No.20007028

>>20007009
put it in WKHS

>> No.20007033
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>>20007009
>Asking a bunch of shitposters on a japanese basket weabing board about a serious life choice

>> No.20007035

>>20006969
Let's see your 600% gains anon.

>> No.20007036
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>>20006697
OVVbros post gains

>> No.20007039

>>20007014
tanker stocks were dying during tanker threads. that was all cope. WKHS is mooning day after day

>> No.20007042

just tried to sell my WKHS calls at the top and accidentally bought more instead! mistake, or blessing in disguise? stay tuned...

>> No.20007045

>>20006949
TSLA at 1,000, still so much money to make, if this thing goes to 10,000 think of how much money you'll make!

>> No.20007053

god im so happy

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At this rate, is WKHS gonna start giving out divvies? When do companies usually start deciding to do that? I just woke up and I'm up 55% kek

>> No.20007054

>>20007042
>zoomers fatfingering a fucking touchscreen instead of trading on a dedicated computer like someone who isn't retarded

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>>20006963
I do too but I'm never comfortable putting more than 10k into meme picks.

>> No.20007058

>>20007045
This but unironically

>> No.20007062

>>20007014
NKLA is $70 on nothing but a photoshop picture and promises

Never underestimate the power of FOMO

>> No.20007063

>>20007018
what did you buy WKHS at?

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all green all day all week

>> No.20007068

big ramp setting up on WKHS aiming directly at the 14.70 wall

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>>20007006
one day it'll come good bro....

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20007073

I broke 25k, 30k, and I’m about to break 35k in one day

Never selling my horsies. (Of course I’ll exercise the options when I’m deep ITM)

>> No.20007080

>tfw bought wkhs at 7
Oh fuck I'm cumming

>> No.20007082

>tfw too much of a pussy to actually buy WKHS or buy calls so you end up selling puts for 20% return on your collaterals

Well at least I know they'll expire worthless on July 17.

>> No.20007083

>>20007055
umm, you did look at their last Q, r-r-right anon?

>> No.20007084

>>20007042
I sold my calls at open. Big mistake I guess. I'll still take my gains I guess.

>> No.20007090

>>20007009
I think you should hold. You should have a trading account separate from your long term account. It could go down or it could go up. That why you DCA and always keep learning for that side account.

>> No.20007096

>>20006960
I keep seeing posts about CLDR, what's so special about it

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>>20007009
what do we have heree. looks like we have a market timer in the vicinity

>> No.20007100

>>20006821
You can short it when it inevitably tanks back to 10 anon

>> No.20007102

>>20007063
i've been watching it for days and finally got in this morning at 12.14 when i saw the big push forming

>> No.20007104

>>20007042
the hooves of the horse god moved your hand to buy since he is so benevolent

>> No.20007105

>>20007009
put it all in WKHS

>> No.20007108

thoughts on fomoing into horse right now this minute?

>> No.20007109

>>20007054
I'm on my desktop. I am, however, retarded

(except I just closed them out for a profit, along with my original sell)

>> No.20007110
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You’re a multi millionaire now because of WKHS.

Who do you pick?

>> No.20007114

>>20007005
I'm not that bullish long term. Motor industry is pretty unstable for the small guys and not known if the truck is a dog yet.

>> No.20007120

>>20007110
neither i'm getting myself a twink bf

>> No.20007121

>>20007110
jesus

>> No.20007124
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>>20006821

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>>20007110
Neither

>> No.20007129
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>>20006932
That would be financially irresponsible.

Though I do wish the money I had put in SNSS had gone into WKHS instead.

>> No.20007131
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>>20007105
do it, it's what all the cool anons are doing

>> No.20007132

>>20007110
Megan Fox was hotter before she had the plastic surgery

>> No.20007133

WKHS 14.70 resistance just disappeared and did not get added to the 15 resistance. lots of upward pressure

>> No.20007135

>>20007064
all month all year

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>>20006568
ooooooooOOOOOOOOOOoooooooOOOOOOO

>> No.20007141
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>>20007110
>3D

>> No.20007144

>>20007114
Their main business isn't consumer pickups. Workhorse's main deal is commercial delivery vehicles for last mile coverage. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

>> No.20007148

OK here comes the scary part, will be bounce off 15 and dump

>> No.20007153

>>20007110
Left Mon, Tues, Wednes.
Right Thurs, Fri, Sat

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>>20007124
>Him rn

>> No.20007157

>>20007108
Dont do it anon it's not worth all your money

>> No.20007158

>$14.75 BROKEN
$14.75 BROKEN
>$14.75 BROKEN
$14.75 BROKEN
>$14.75 BROKEN
$14.75 BROKEN
>$14.75 BROKEN

>> No.20007159

$15 WKHS LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.20007163

WKHS 15 resistance is gone. nothing but a slope above 15 with some tiny bumps. i don't see where any significant push upward would stop
14 support growing

>> No.20007166

Just took some profit at $15. Kind of regretting it brehs

>> No.20007170
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20007170

>>20007110
Squidgirl

>> No.20007169

>>20007148
Scary? We /WKHS? chads have iron hooves

>> No.20007171

>>20006679
Up 5% today if it reaches 8% im gonna sell

>> No.20007172
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20007172

Congratulations, WKHSbros. I didn't buy in but I'm really happy for you all. Remember to set a trailing stop loss to protect your capital. Have a blessed day!

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The horse went up by more than 50% holy guacamolee

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>>20007072

Just hold a year on your stonks anonbro and we should be getting back to track.

Just hold and get those divvys (if you have divvy stonks)..

My Portfolio literally fell 40% in March it was so hard to not get out of stonks but i held until the very moment....

We will defin. gonna make it

>> No.20007176

>>20007129
but now you have so much money to reinvest for galt day!

>> No.20007181

>>20007110
Don't ever post those alternatives again

>> No.20007184

>>20007110
Zooey Deschanel

>> No.20007183

>>20007144
Right, but it's the ev development driving interest

>> No.20007188

>>20007166
bro this is a long hodl...

>> No.20007190

ALRIGHT MEN 15 WALL, GET READY

>> No.20007193
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1488
BUY BUY BUY

>> No.20007194

>>20007148
BUY MOAR

>> No.20007199
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20007199

WKHS has NO resistance at the moment

>> No.20007203

I want to be happy, but I know that if and when i pull out of the horse i'll just go back to making shitty trades and lose it all again.

>> No.20007206
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>>20007110
neither I want a cute kpop gf with my horse money

>> No.20007208

>>20006870
Holy fucking based you're gonna buy yourself a car just from 1 horse

>> No.20007216

>>20007199
Wow

>> No.20007217

>dumping
It's over. $8.26 EOD

>> No.20007218

alright, who the fuck dumped at 15

>> No.20007220

damn we bounced right off of $15..

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>>20007110

I'd be picking me a red fox and would coom and stay in her poosy all night

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God /smg/ is not a place for me today, my broker doesn't have WKHS. I can't even go full FOMO while the shit I hold is crabbing annoyingly

>> No.20007236

>>20007218
>>20007220
Completely predictable at this point

>> No.20007239

>>20007224
it was an almost 2M volume push that I think ate up most of that 15 resistance wall on WKHS. could've exhausted ammo for a bit. pressure is down with support at 14

>> No.20007240

uhh anyone else stuck at 14.50 with wkhs

>> No.20007246

>price peaked at $14.88
what did WKHS mean by this?

>> No.20007247

>>20007236
Probably gonna go back up tho today.

>> No.20007248

Green week bull bros. Green week. They’ll pump it with made up jobless numbers at the end of the week and it’s a long weekend and America’s bday next week ought to be green too. Fuck bears

>> No.20007254

ok I'm fomoing in finally

>> No.20007256

>>20007227
What fucking broker do you use? Im a robinhoodlum and even I can get in on WKHS

>> No.20007262

>>20007256
Probably some fucking subhuman europoor

>> No.20007264
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>>20007246
IMATRUCKGUY

>> No.20007270
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20007270

trump will nationalize the USPS with brand new HORSEFLY drones to SHIT all over amazon
>pic related

>> No.20007272

Fuck, I bought the top didn't I?

>> No.20007273

Dare I pump my entire load in to ONTX?

>> No.20007275

>>20007199
where do you get data like this?

>> No.20007278

is there anything wrong with married calls? (shorting a stock and buying a call to hedge against it rising)

>> No.20007282
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20007282

>He hasn't taken the horse pill

>> No.20007283

What's the bottom for SHLL now

>> No.20007281

>>20007275
Your local indian restaurant.

>> No.20007286

>>20007240
in my pocket universe it's at $100

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>> No.20007300

Happy 10th birthday TSLA!
https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-10-anniversary-ipo-electric-vehicles-elon-musk-51593437846

>> No.20007299

>>20007270
>nationalize the USPS
You're a total fucking retard.

>> No.20007303

NOOOOOOOOOO ITS FUCKING DUMPING THIS IS THE RUGPULL WE GOT TO COCKY HORSEBROS

>> No.20007305

>>20007275
it's just the order book. if you sign up for robinhood gold for $5/month you can see it

>> No.20007306

>>20007292
Meant to quote >>20007036

>> No.20007314

>>20007272
For today? Possibly
For the week? Absolutely not

>> No.20007315

fuck it imma double my horse position on this dip

$15 CHOO CHOO here comes the short squeeze motherfucker

>> No.20007316

>>20007282
No point chasing

>> No.20007322

>>20007281
based beaumont raj

>>20007305
it looks beautiful

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>>20007292

My oil stonks are literally fighting a huge sell wall...Im so hair thin away from being in the green.
fking pump already, my fking fist turned bloody slamming that F5 button

>> No.20007325

almost fomoed but now dipping. how does it look orderbookanon?

>> No.20007329

>>20007256
>>20007262
As anon guessed, I'm not American

>> No.20007330

>tfw left my /tortoise/ and /horse/ bros last week with big gains and missed out on more gains
What was I thinking bros it feels so bad not being on the farm anymore

>> No.20007338

>>20007282
wait, theres people ITT that havent had ketamine yet?

>> No.20007340

What’s the horse gonna look like EOY?

>> No.20007342

I predicted the RTX pump exactly
And i didnt buy it
fml
Maybe i still jump in. It will go to 70 easy

>> No.20007344

>>20007303
it's not a rug pull. there was a multi-million dollar order that hit the 15 resistance wall
support is at 14. pressure is down but not significant. s hould crab between 13.50-15 for a while

>> No.20007346

HORSE BROS WTF IS GOING ONNN BROSS

>> No.20007350

>>20007283
$20

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20007351

>He bought WKHS
>You know what to do

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stonks would be less stressful if i had someone to milk me, i need a stonks gf

>> No.20007355

>>20007340
Either glue or on the moon

>> No.20007356

and just like that, WKHS will never be below $14 again

>> No.20007363

>>20007055
Growth companies don't pay divvies, they spend money on expanding their business.

>> No.20007364

>>20007340
USPS deal will probably make or break it

>> No.20007365

>>20007330

Never, ever be ashamed of taking profit. You made your money, as is everyone else.

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>only 45% up for the day
>stuck in $14
I'M RUINED

>> No.20007373

Buy FB calls

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>>20007299
Kys you illiterate fucking retard

>> No.20007375

>>20007325
there doesn't look to be any committment at all by the profit-takers. that could obviously change but resistance is building back up at 15 and the support line at 13 hasn't changed
13-15 may be the range for today

>> No.20007380

>>20007126
very based but VJ would never marry you just for the money

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Save him Horsebros

>> No.20007381

>>20007355
>moon
I think you mean Equuleus anon

>> No.20007387

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

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>>20007367

>> No.20007396

>>20007323
I've got 262 shares of XOM at a total profit of $3.50
Literal three fiddy.
Can't wait for this shit to get back to work.

>> No.20007397

Dare I go balls deep in the AMD dip?

>> No.20007401

>>20007356
horse go to moon, yes
but horse no go straight up
horse push sideways, then horse go up
have strong hand, horse will win

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>>20007387

>> No.20007411

>>20007376
wew lad, maybe you should wikipedia USPS

pro tip it's not the same as UPS

>> No.20007412

>>20007396
What about your $0.87 divvy bro.

>> No.20007422

SHLL and WKHS going to the motherfucking moon

>> No.20007424

>>20007330
Gains are still gains. No worries.

>> No.20007427

I am so bad at daytrading holy shit, greedy and holding on losing positions for too long.

>> No.20007429

>>20007356
14 is the current support but it isn't stronk
it could bounce under 14 but without some kind of catalyst it shouldn't go far
pressure is still down but resistance is still clearly defined at 15

>> No.20007430

I just can’t look away from the degeneracy in here. Fascination of the abomination.

>> No.20007432

Is wkhs still censored on redit?

>> No.20007433

Thanks to WKHS I can now be a pattern day trader. But the question is, should I?

>> No.20007434

To the dumb nigger that said RTX would drop today, kys retard

>> No.20007437

YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE MY MONEY STEAL MY MONEY GET OUT OF MY HEAD OUT OF THOUGHTS STOP THINKING ME TO BUY HORS YOU WANT MY MONEY YOU KNOW MY MONEY MY THOUGHTS STOP MAKING THESE THOUGHTS YOU'RE MAKING ME WANT IT CREATIN THESE THOUGHTS YOU WANT ME TO BUY HORSE YOU WANT MY MONEY YOU TAKE MY MONEY YOU TAKE MY THOUGHTS YOU MAKE THEM HORSE GET OUT OF MY HEAD OUT OF MY MONEY YOU TAKE MY THOUGHT AND PUT IN HORSE

>> No.20007440
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The horse will never dip below $14 again.

>> No.20007447

>>20007422
i want to get into SHLL sooooooooo baaadddddd
will there ever be another dip?

>> No.20007448

>>20007273

Don’t be a retard.

>> No.20007449

>>20007323
>not buying the dip
Meh, buying around this level is fine assuming you bought last week.

>> No.20007451

>>20007278
bump

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>>20006568
I missed the Horse dip/ entry 3 times...
God damnit. Make the money for me bros.

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Pride before fall

>> No.20007454

>>20007432
Did this really happen?

>> No.20007460

>>20007433
Who cares as long as you can pay the goyim entrance fee

>> No.20007467

>>20007454
Supposedly

>> No.20007471

>>20007453
Yes brother

But the question is how long until the fall

>> No.20007481

>>20007447
honestly just buy in whenever you can

I bought the supposed "top" multiple times and I'm still up over 80%

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>>20007172
I've been too afraid to set trailing stops on things and it's fucked me over a few times. What sort of trail does /smg/ use?

>> No.20007485

>>20007396

I bought too early anon, i bought 350XOM at 45$ each and 1k rdsb for 16$...
We will get back on track but its going to take a while and depends on normies to stop licking on doorknobs

>> No.20007486

>>20007264
>presentation triggered stop-loss by .02 immediately before non-stop ride began
This dude got filtered by The Horse.

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>>20007452
Bro, you can still make money off WKHS.
Sell cash covered puts.
Worst case scenario you keep the credit and the puts print and you end up buying WKHS two weeks later for $8-12. Which most likely won't happen.
Thank me later.

>> No.20007490

What are your stops at horsebros?

>> No.20007491

>>20007481
i'll hope for a 32 if that happens i'm going in

>> No.20007492

>>20007454
I mean it's reddit I would believe it. Reddit is filled, just filled with cocksuckers.

>> No.20007494

Added 30k ktov.

https://stocktwits.com/grink

>> No.20007500

>>20007454
Not sure, but there aren't many threads there about it.

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>>20007432
>>20007454
>>20007467

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>>20007471
In 2142.

>> No.20007507

>>20007482

Depends on the value of the stock. I generally don't set % stops. The other day I told an anon to set a $3 trailing stop on WKHS. I still think that's reasonable.

>> No.20007510

>betting against the us during independence day holiday week
dont do that

>> No.20007519

>>20007379
kek

>> No.20007522

>>20007454
It's been happening for a while, although i still don't understand how Redit works.
>>/biz/thread/S19911958#p19912867

>> No.20007525

>>20007489
i'm too retarded to trade options, even after reading the investopedia it's a big fucking mystery.

>> No.20007526

>>20007299
Kys you illiterate fucking retard
>>20007411
No shit. USPS is public. UPS is private. But UPS actually makes money. USPS is outdated horseshit that bleeds the taxpayer
TRUMP touted revamping the USPS on the campaign trail. Pence is at EV factory. This will be a major part of his second term: subsidizing american made EVs for the dying United States Postal service (USPS BTW). Which means less dependence on scum like Bezos for delivery needs, which means a GREATER AMERICA.

>> No.20007527

>>20007396
>>20007323
>tfw down 1000 bucks on my current average of 48.55
I'm seriously thinking about selling everything and taking my ~$1500 profit overall. Today is green but watching this shit crab around 44 today feels like 47 from a week ago is so far away

>> No.20007531

>>20006568
TSLA going back to 1k again. Fuck this religion stock.

>> No.20007542

If you missed out on WKHS, there is still time to get into VXRT

>> No.20007544
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PLUG has some fatass green candles too

>> No.20007550

>tqqq +1%
>soxl +1%
confirmed green day

>> No.20007552

>>20007525

Takes time. Don’t touch them until you’re mostly desensitized to making money and losing money.

>> No.20007553

>>20007542
>biotech

big league miss me on that

>> No.20007555

fellow WKHS bros, do not set stop losses like a bitch. you'll just get bogged out of your position just for it to skyrocket right after, this thing is a LONG hodl, diamond hands bros

>> No.20007558

WKHS is not dipping, and definitely not a pump and dump.
Wanna know why? Look at the float, and look at the options activity on this shit right now.

>> No.20007560

THE DUMP COMMENCES

>> No.20007561

>>20007526
>having trump's cock this far down your throat
i almost feel bad for you, almost.

>> No.20007568

>>20007527

Man just get your divvie and enjoy your time off.
This market is too volatile and the flu is priced in already.
If you want cheap prices wait for the Quarter results or come back in half a year.

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20007571

I feel like i'm in a kid's picture book

>> No.20007574

>forgot to take my money out of LLEX
holy shit is it just gone now? does bankruptcy just gas my ability to liquidate?

>> No.20007575

Here's your dip on horse faggots

>> No.20007577

>>20007555
Diamond hooves

>> No.20007583

Crab week, isn't it?

>> No.20007585

300% up on horse, I am out
hold my bags bros

>> No.20007590

Any retard who's too fucking scared to do big stock shit and has a lot of cash,

just sell fucking $5 WKHS puts for $0.18

>> No.20007593

>we just have to cool off for the next rally...

>> No.20007597

WKHS IS DIPPING IS THIS IT??? DO I BUY???

GOD I WISH I HAD A GF TO CUM RIGHT NOW I CAN'T THINK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.20007600

>>20007585
Happy for you bro. Im gonna keep holding might grab a few of yours while im here

>> No.20007602

>>20007542
i'm looking at it i'm debating SHLL or VXRT i have 416.93 availible to invest what should i go into

>> No.20007603

I’m all in SPY, GDX and TQQQ wish me luck

>> No.20007604

How low do we buy, bros?

>> No.20007610
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First for fuck america

>> No.20007611

>>20007603
>All in
>SPY, TQQQ, GDX
Ok boomer

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>>20007527
Ah shit, I lost my three fiddy. Hold me lads. I'm financially ruined.

>> No.20007628

>>20007583

Green week. Major holiday coming up short week long weekend, shit just got done major dipping last week and fed pump on fake jobless news at end of week

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20007630

>>20007561
Ohfuck.jpg
he is ridin with biden

>> No.20007635

>>20007590
selling the 10s for $2
may actually get sold if we push down to 13 which i think we will

>> No.20007649

spy is gonna break the day high

>> No.20007650

>>20007555
literally me
>>20007486
Don't be like I was Horse bros.

>> No.20007655

>>20007630
He’s just being a nice boomer. What’s wrong?

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20007656

>>20007376
>>20007526
>samefagging on a board with IDs
>being a total retard in the first place
Back to r/thedonald

>> No.20007663

got pushed out of horsies at 13.50. I think I set my stop loss too high. Oh well. I still did alright

>> No.20007669

Ugh I suddenly feels sick. Which is actually bullish, Some of my best gains were on days when I felt sick as a dog

>> No.20007671

Anyone not buying this dip is ngmi

>> No.20007675

>>20006568
>Bought a bunch of puts and calls. Every single one of them is failing sans one.
>SPY is up, Airlines are up, FB is recovering, AMZN is down

If WKHS didn't go up today I would've been convinced that I singlehandedly control the stock market. It's the inverse of whatever I buy.

>> No.20007686

>>20007671
That's pump and dump talk. I'm not holding your bags.

>> No.20007689

>>20007663
$18 eod

>> No.20007696

>selling the HORSE now of all times
this one is actually for holding what are you guys doing

>> No.20007704

>>20007635
That works too if you're a bit more on the "risky" side. But I honestly think IV is really fucking high on WKHS and the premiums are awesomely high right now.
If you check the Jan '21 puts the $7.5p is selling at $3.75 which is pretty much a 50%. Kind of insane.

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20007707

based american holiday making my rtx ba and aal going up

>> No.20007710

/wkhs/ general

>> No.20007714

my Kroger calls came from the underground, from -1000, to finally a positive, fucking options are one hell of a bitch

>> No.20007729

>>20007707
I knew I should have went all in on AAL. Easy guaranteed morning flip

>> No.20007734

>>20007707
$XAR chads

>> No.20007736

>>20007704
i think i'd be able to buy them back at 50% tomorrow morning

>> No.20007739

My 13.50 stop loss got triggered. It was fun riding the horseback with you bros. I made a solid 4 grand and I still feel good

>> No.20007743

>>20007714
disabling options is easily the smarted thing i've ever done, probably saved my life!

>> No.20007747

i have 400 dollars to invest should i go into SHLL or VXRT

>> No.20007749

lowball order set, lets see if they get filled

>> No.20007750

How’s it looking bros? Who’s green today

>> No.20007753

>>20007739
you're going to be sick when it hits 50

>> No.20007757

>>20007747
I have $1000 and I'm askin the same thing.

>> No.20007759

>there's people selling WKHS right now
Have you learned nothing from the past week?

>> No.20007768

>>20007704
as soon as i answered you somebody chased them and i'm instantly in the positive on them

>> No.20007770

>>20007656
don't bother he's a /pol/ tourist and a magatard, that should tell you everything you need to know.

>> No.20007774

>>20007750
https://youtu.be/KBKXu3Kg4yg

>> No.20007777

>>20007759
Yeah, sell at multiples of $5 and re-enter 20-30% lower

>> No.20007794

>>20007777

Based get but fuck wkhs

>> No.20007807

>>20007743
disabling me from doing daytrades is what made get caught in holding. im able to time it well and flip 200 in a hour but cant get out when i need to

>> No.20007825

>>20007777
checked

>>20007794
robimhoodies are going to pump it, fuck fundementals we are riding sentiment and zoomer penny investments for the next decade

>> No.20007828
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20007828

why yes, i am a WKHS chad, how could you tell?

>> No.20007832

Is it too late to get in on WKHS? Where is the ceiling at?

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>>20007710
a bit annoying, innit?
Still, gotta give it to them that being reckless and chasing momentum is really working in this frothy market.

>>20007628
>fake jobless news at end of week
you think they can do it again?

>> No.20007855

>bought 7500 wkhs shares at $4
>ontop of my existing 250k invested elsewhere
>320k and growing at the moment
feels good to retire before 30

>> No.20007862

>>20007855
show it, bro

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>>20007834

They do it every time they report. They’re taking turns, media dumps it with doom n gloom shit fed pumps it with bogus numbers and optimism and someone is in on it all riding up and down both ways. Wonder who

>> No.20007867

>>20007832
$15 for now, until it decides to go higher for whatever reason

>> No.20007874

>>20007855
>>320k to retire @ 30
Plan to retire in Albania?

>> No.20007881

>>20007855
You're going to retire with less than 500k? Good luck I guess. Also nice LARP

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ANOTHER retard faggot OP didn't link the new thread... maybe it's old, I don't know, whatever.

>>20005322
>>20005322
>>20005322

>>20007863
>They do it every time they report
nah we've had downside surprises, but last month they really fucked it up and said so in the fine print

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20007896

If you're too scared to play the WKHS stock itself, WKHS options are literally printing money right now.. get in bros. Theta gang. 50% on $7.5 2021 puts and 20-25% on $10 7/17 puts!

>> No.20007901

>>20007855
That'll probably pay for a good expat life in costa rica if you don't get murdered by a local for your money

>> No.20007908

>>20007874
not 30 yet big iq boy
and idk what you're thinking you can retire on 300k even in usa

>> No.20007910

Aw fuck I'm doing it again. I'm buying into WKHS. Get out now, the curse is in motion, buy the real dip later once I panic sell again fuuuuuuuuck.

>> No.20007911

new thread
>>20005322
>>20005322
>>20005322

>> No.20007935

>>20007910

Why do you hurt yourself?

>> No.20008015

>>20007908
>you can retire on 300k even in usa
no way, not at 30. that's like 5 decades you have to pay for... you're going to be living off rice and squirrels in a shanty town on the other side of the planet, maybe it would work at like 65 and planned to live for a decade or two

>> No.20008766

>>20007447
can anyone redpill me on SHLL? i saw someone shilling it at $16 last week. but whereas workhorse has products, potential deals, approvals etc- SHLL is just a blank-check company with (seemingly) no value to invest in. can anyone change my mind on this?