/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.19786032]

Steaking monthly return predictions? Is 5% possible?

[Anonymous No.19786055]

more likely 0%

[Anonymous No.19786067]

chainlinks staking is different to the regular fake enflating staking on shitcoins.
chainlink staking will require you to actually participate in the network.

so staking is good for us but not the way you think.

if you plan to run your node the returns can be seen already each request is paid about 0.1 link.

if you dont run your node than the only way to make some link is by lending your link to a node operator pool.

either way we will all profit from staking b cause its a virtuous cycle that will grow the network. and since the rokzn grows with the network. we already made it

[Anonymous No.19786083]

>>19786067
based and linkpilled

[Anonymous No.19786098]

>>19786032
3% maybe. But it won't matter when the token bleeds back toward ICO price in 2021.

Buy Verasity. 35% APR on staking. Hasn't mooned.

[Anonymous No.19786143]

>>19786098
kill yourself random shitcoinpeddler #8374783

[Anonymous No.19786149]

>>19786098
>35% APR
Yes I know I'm taking low hanging fruit.
>>19786032
>>19786067
OP this isn't some funny money bullshit, in time lending your stack to node operators will be profitable, but the whole staking thing isn't gonna be so simple for us. It's probably not gonna be like clicking a button on ShitExchange112 like your other stakes

[Anonymous No.19786153]

>>19786032
not only is it possible. it's fud.

[Anonymous No.19786171]

>>19786149
It's likely that binance and coinbase will offer chainlink staking for the nodes they will run so it probably will be like clicking a button for us plebs.

[Anonymous No.19786180]

>>19786149
Chainlink staking confuses me. I understand why it’s valuable to the network, but from the perspective of an ordinary investor it’s hard to speculate.

Surely it will have to pay more than crypto.com, to incentivize those who are capable, to actually run new nodes rather than parking their link into a lending platform.

[Anonymous No.19786201]

>>19786171
>>19786180
Nobody outside the team knows how streamlined the staking process will be, but the way it sounds is that it will be like taking on the contract yourself, at least early on. Most Staking Wen? faggots will not be able to cope with this and will either do nothing (smart option) or try and fail.

[Anonymous No.19786310]

>>19786032
No and you don’t understand basic finance if you think so

[Anonymous No.19787274]

>>19786310
>No and you don’t understand basic finance if you think so
why?

[Anonymous No.19787287]

>>19787274
Because a 5% return monthly for any investment is possible

If chainlink was returning 5% monthly its price would appreciate about 10-20+ fold until it had a reasonable 0.5-4% annual appreciation

[Anonymous No.19787307]

>>19786032
I for one think this new greek style suits sergey and hope he uses extra virgin olive oil on his hairy bear body

[Anonymous No.19787337]

>>19786032
people have to use it retard. RN even if you get 100% of the reward you'd still get ZERO

[Anonymous No.19787510]

>>19787287
>If chainlink was returning 5% monthly its price would appreciate about 10-20+ fold until it had a reasonable 0.5-4% annual appreciation
So let's say I stake my measly 2k nulink stack.
In your opinion we might have a 5%monthy at the very beginning wehn the network is growing and when we reach a huge size it levels off leaving us with 0.5-4% annual gains?

Even that would be ok right?
2000Link*1000DollarsEOY*0.04gains*0.75(because0.25goes to LP)
= 60k Dollars a year.
Enough to retire in easter Europe.

[Anonymous No.19788077]

>>19786032
I'd imagine initially given the risk and fewer number of nodes the return will be more than 5%, possibly 10%. There's so many factors though it's even harder to predict than the price alone, also will depend on what kind of contracts you're providing data to. Data that is more exclusive and for higher value contracts (derivatives) will have higher payouts whereas neet nodes will probably be doing more basic price feeds and time data/offhcain computation that can't be tampered with.
I think pooling services will be really effective especially for neets once staking starts to be phased in, it's my udnerstanding that pooling services and KYC nodes will get staking first before normie nodes to prevent reputation farming/sybil attacks.
But yeah pooling services like linkpool will be accessing higher value contracts from the very get go I reckon, because they've been vetted by link and are working with the team, plus will have 10s of millions worth of link to stake.
Oracles will be the new miners ;)

[Anonymous No.19788222]

>>19788077
How much can i expect to get anually from 4k link

[Anonymous No.19788248]

>>19786032
The way i understand things, you take the problem in the wrong way. Here me out.

Yes it will be about 5% probably, but 5% of what? The price of link itself, speculation bubble aside, will depend on how many money is paid yearly by the nodes.

For example if 1 billion is spender each year on nodes, each link will grant $1 per year.
Given the nature of the investment as said, people would certainly be ok to pay at least $20 to own one link, given that 5% is a very good ROI.
So if we have 1 billion dollar payload by nodes in a year, we can expect a $20 price for chainlink, maybe more if people think a roi of 3% is enough reward for the risk, maybe even more if we get some speculative bubble going.

Now how much dollars can nodes actually make each year when LINK is at full capacity? Only time will tell, suffice to say it might be enormous, OR it might fail miserably as most crypto project will.

[Anonymous No.19788265]

>>19786067
Grow the network? Kek nobody is using the nerwork

[Anonymous No.19788275]

>>19788222
Checked. I have no clue how much staking returns or price will be, as I said. Run the numbers in excel yourself.

[Anonymous No.19788291]

>>19788275
There’s no numbers to run. No one is using it

[Anonymous No.19788292]

>>19788248
I'm pretty sure the demand for decentralized oracles is in the trillions

[Anonymous No.19788294]

Lookin comfy for my 22k stack. Just need to accumulate more LP

[Anonymous No.19788295]

Staking economics is literally impossible to predict for chainlink
Since nobody has ever done anything like this before
I think there is just too many unkown factors playing into it that you could really make a reasonable guess

[Anonymous No.19788304]

>>19786171

Are you aware of the fact that unlike PoS blockchains, with Chainlink if you stake more than the colateral requested by smart contracts you don't get more rewards? There is a limit for how much contracts asking for colateral you'll be able to serve. Once you pass that limit, if you let users stake you are actually cutting their rewards.

Let me be clear, if you serve 200 contracts that ask for 1 million USD in LINK as colateral at the same time, you will only need 200 million USD in LINK staked. If you reach that limit and you keep allowing your users to stake, you are not going to earn more, but instead your users will earn LESS. That's why the Coinbase having their own node it's not a valid situation.

Imagine Coinbase open their node for people to lend them collateral. Either you are one of the firsts doing it or you will probably won't be able to stake unless you buy some staking-allowance token from one of the staking pools. If let's say Coinbase or Stakewithus.link allowed users to stake ALL their LINK even when they don't need that much for serving job requests, their return percentage will be shit because they would be cutting their users reward by having to distribute the same amount of LINK among more users.

[Anonymous No.19788313]

>>19788294
Buying LP is a waste. There will be a plethora of third party link staking platforms. I'm sure Coinbase will offer it. They will be competitive. You're throwing money away on LP

[Anonymous No.19788339]

>>19788313
Again, see this post >>19788304 CoinBase won't save your day unless you are one of the first getting in. The moment they announce it a lot of insiders will be ready to stake after a few seconds, filling the LINK allowance. Chainlink staking is not the same as PoS staking

[Anonymous No.19788347]

>>19788294
May be retarded but how does 200 weekly amount to 2000 for monthly? Makes no sense. Max monthly if 200 weekly would be 800.

[Anonymous No.19788349]

>>19788313
If only there were a way to browse all available nodes and rank them by # of jobs run

That way you could see which nodes are the most used right now and likely to continue to be used as we move into Mainnet staking
If only...

[Anonymous No.19788353]

>>19787287
This

>>19787510
Don't us the 1000 eoy meme in your calculations, it can be much more or much less depending on how massively used or how niche link ends up being

[Anonymous No.19788449]

>>19788292
Maybe, tbqh I don't know how this market work at all so I can't make predictions, and i dont exactly underatand how link works and whats the exact scope of what it can do.

The only thing i think i understand is the economics of chainlink, and from that i can only say that it all depend on how well link cater to the needs of people and corporations with big wallets, that's the only conclusion my limited knowledge and intelligence lead me to.

[Anonymous No.19788695]

>>19788313
You are fucking retarded and have no fucking idea how this whole thing works.

[Anonymous No.19788743]

>>19788294
Did a little thought experiment same as you. Looking at what the expected price is to be once staking is released, and expected percent returns I came up with this probability chart for someone with 17K link.

The green areas represent a high likelihood of happening since you want to incentivize staking over just selling for cash and investing or storing it and getting interest on it. They also represent the return per year at that rate for the theoretical price in column A. The yellow is unlikely, and red is probably not happening, at least not for a while price wise.

[Anonymous No.19788794]

>>19788347
Oops was multiplying the weekly column by 12 for some reason. Here's the fixed version

[Anonymous No.19788872]

>>19788743
That's so sick anon. How are the x% per year columns different to the staking returns collumn though? I don't get it lol

[Anonymous No.19788917]

>>19788872
So the % per year column takes the link price of the row, multiplies it by the % stated in the column, and the stack size to give you how much your return will be.

[Anonymous No.19788942]

>>19788917
Ahhh yeah I see it now. Very nice, I think me and a lot of other 10k+ anons are sitting very comfy after the next leg up, especially if staking goes live by then.

[Anonymous No.19789024]

>>19788942
Very, very comfy. I want to stake on multiple platforms including my own independent node. We shall see once staking goes live.

[Anonymous No.19789194]

>>19788872

are the numbers in LINK or $?

[Anonymous No.19789223]

>>19786067
>chainlinks staking is different to the regular fake enflating staking on shitcoins.
>each request is paid about 0.1 link
Where do you think that LINK is coming from, moron?

Chainlink is absolutely an inflationary scam. Nobody is paying to use the feeds, and the feeds is the only part of the network that's getting usage at all. Chainlink pays for these requests by releasing new LINK to the circulating supply.

Let me repeat: Nobody is paying for using the Chainlink network of oracles right now, besided Chainlink. Thus, Chainlink is as much of an inflationary scam as Synthetix, and if they know what's good for them, they won't release staking before they have paying customers. Otherwise I will personally report them to the SEC for the Ponzi scheme they're running.

[Anonymous No.19789294]

>>19789223
>n-nobody is actually a paying customer

[Anonymous No.19789448]

>>19788265
What is three years but also you?

[Anonymous No.19789462]

>>19789194
USD. I should put in a conversion on how many link that would be at the given price. Also going to extend the price out further to 1K.

>>19789223 See >>19789294
People are paying and it hasn't even really opened up to the wider market yet.

[Anonymous No.19789484]

>>19789462
Nooooo you can’t just BTFO the fudder arguement!!! You can”t do that!!!

[Anonymous No.19789509]

there are still no real details about staking

[Anonymous No.19789546]

>>19788794
might as well invest in Ethereum/Tezos/Algorand/Cosmos

[Anonymous No.19789658]

>>19788304
Nodes will be in a race to accumulate BECAUSE they’ll want to be able to handle as many jobs as possible. Coinbase especially will certainly take more than they need because they can afford to pay out gains while they work as a business to acquire jobs. This is a multi quadrillion dollar pool. If you think the opportunity will dry up you are a fool, and the only way to get that opportunity is to have the LINK collateral to back it.

[Anonymous No.19789698]

>>19789658
I dont think coinbase pool, will be worth quadrillion, more like billions. There will be other node providers. The ecosystem though will be worth in the trillions.

[Anonymous No.19789807]

>>19789484
kek

>>19789546
Why should I stake on niche projects (minus etherium) when every day it seems to be that chainlink will be the oracle standard for hundreds or thousands of companies and projects?

>>19789698
Completely agree. If this gets into derivatives we could see network value into the high trillions. When it first launches we will see network value in the millions, and as it matures a little bit we will see it worth billions.

[Anonymous No.19789877]

>>19789807
tezos is bigger than chainlink and has a 6% staking return. cosmos/atom isn't niche and has like 8-10% returns last time i checked. algo has 7-10% as well i believe

[Anonymous No.19789893]

>>19786032
closer to 0.05%

I hope you bought the 1mm make it stack like we told you to

[Anonymous No.19790017]

>>19789877
>tezos is bigger than chainlink
What did he mean by this? I hope you don't mean network wise because that's not even close to being true.
>has a 6% staking return
We don't even know what link's return will be, so why switch?
>cosmos
>algo
>etherium
>tezos
So I should gamble on which one of these could be (not for sure) will be the smart contracts platform of the future, instead of selecting the only decentralized oracle platform that has gained wide adoption in not just the crypto world, but the business and financial sector as well.

[Anonymous No.19790068]

>>19790017
i mean market cap. also you don't have to gamble on what's going to be the future. they are all working now and you make staking rewards now if that's what you care about

[Anonymous No.19790106]

Guys boomers are already pissed at robinhooders, how pissed off will they be when they’re price out of LINK and hundreds of NEETs are able to retire before they do?

[Anonymous No.19790109]

>>19790017
Theoretically, could the network be sustainable if the return was something like 10%+?

[Anonymous No.19790167]

>>19790109
It possible. Node operators have an incentive to keep buying LINK on the market. We also don’t know how much the middle man has sucked up in wealth over the past few decades. Even with stuff like tezos 6% return I think that fucking wild.

[Anonymous No.19790277]

>>19786067
"VIRTUOUS CYCLE"

MMMMMM LOVE THOSE WORDS

T 2020

[Anonymous No.19790305]

>>19790068
Pic related. It's not just staking and having a "working" product, but ROI and having demand for services are also important.

>>19790109
Yes. In the early stages of staking the link will be coming from the link team's 35% of tokens held for early staking incentives. So early staking rewards could be very high, or maybe not so much. When the network takes off we could see that go up or down depending on demand and who is willing to sell their link.

[Anonymous No.19790377]

>>19790305
Only a retard will sell their LINK early in the network stage.

[Anonymous No.19790398]

>>19786032
It will inflate the supply so the price will more or less decrease by the same %.

[Anonymous No.19790427]

>>19790398
Supply is finite, it means things like .5 LINK will be more valuable later on.

[Anonymous No.19790472]

>>19786067
Also, don't forget that staking returns will be paid in LINK, and as the value increases the earnings compound.

[Anonymous No.19790478]

>>19790377
100% agree. You shouldn't be cashing any of it out other than to cover any capital gains that might be incurred. Even then it may just be better to pay out of pocket rather than sell link to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.19790786]

>>19790109
Unlikely, the base price would rise (as boomers buy in/ignore the tech and use it solely as an investment vehicle) to the point where it drops to 6-10%.

Too lazy to re-read and quote some people but calculating (guessing) percentages really isnt the way to do it...and is effectively the completely assbackwards way to think about it. The propper calculation is to sum up the potential markets/industries that SC's will dominate or overthrow, deduct a reasonable cost savings that would entice that industry to switch, and then calculate that as a function of USD per year per link. IE: online gambling is worth 60b revenue, CL/SC backend and payment processing could probably fetch 10-15b easily (rough industry estimates are -40% or -24b in operating-dev costs)....returning ~25-40 per link per year depending on how diluted you believe the circulating to be. Therefore price should rise to approx 300 (for 30usd/10% yearly). That revenue is expected to double to 120b by '27...I suspect that easily accessible non KYC grey market online gaming with prove-able randomness and completely transparent backend will likely grow that normie projection a much more significant amount and/or take away from the 450b brick and mortar casino revenues.

One of the smaller, albeit easier and currently implementable, usecases for SCs. Add in about 10 more major industries with larger numbers and higher overhead/employee costs and the numbers start to get hopium tier. The one issue is that the profit distribution wont be even across every link, as im sure the boomers will end up only utilizing known and trusted or established node operators. So that skews numbers even more, and may end up with google, microsoft, and oracle nodes taking the lion's share of those numbers and us neets fighting over our shitty 3% returns in pools (with a token price still in the high 3 or 4 digit range).

[Anonymous No.19790958]

>>19790305
>In the early stages of staking the link will be coming from the link team's 35% of tokens held for early staking incentives
No. Yes, they're currently paying the nodes with those funds for the free to use reference datas...but the whole point of steaking is to ensure the actual paying customers they're getting the correct service (data) when they're actually paying money. Nothing you get from running a node/pool will be directly from CL, it will be entirely paid by a requester and the terms (price) will be entirely decided by the marketplace (nodes v customers).

[Anonymous No.19791330]

>>19790786
Trucking is an approx 260b revenue industry in the US (1.2 trill world). the top 20 companies pocket 3-7% profit, although I don't know if that's completely accurate or if they hide/over re-invest for tax purposes. Either way, the cost of actual driving employees only accounts for 10-20% depending on number of owner op/lease and full on company drivers there are. The rest is useless and often redundant office workers, office real estate, and lawyers. All very easily replaced by SC's. Ignoring the huge streamlining of automating dispatch and paperwork for drivers, and estimating on the high side... SC's will save 180b a year in trucking, in the US alone. Roughly 65-275 dollars per link per year...with a 4.5x to 11.5x gain in profits for the companies (and current, insanely low shipping rates).

The numbers are pretty nuts. The only problem being is that a majority of worker drones will be made obsolete as soon as this ball starts rolling.

[Anonymous No.19791436]

Earn pretty good returns on
crypto
(dot)
com app (wish it had a different name ffs) up to 18% with there own coin cro see list for other tokens.

[Anonymous No.19791443]

>>19791330
It's honestly scary how big of a potential financial shaker this shit will be, but yeah, the protest in usa and soon in europe will seem like child play after big amounts of workers will get left in the dust.

[Anonymous No.19791468]

>>19791436
I see crypto.com as the biggest ponzi since bit connect. Only a matter of time before that comes tumbling down.

[Anonymous No.19791486]

>>19788294
Your monthly doesn't add up compared to yearly/weekly. Not to mention why have LINK price if you're still manually putting in your stack worth instead of having a formula to do the math, so you can change just one cell to adjust the price.
Fucking brainlet.

[Anonymous No.19791618]

>>19791468
Has made me some good gains this year so can't complain.

[Anonymous No.19791778]

>>19791618
Sure, and so did bit connect before it all collapsed. Ponzis do look good up until they don't. Be careful anon and take gains if you made them. I don't see this lasting very long at those return rates.

[Anonymous No.19791823]

>>19787510
>calculates results in USD and not in Link
kek

[Anonymous No.19791970]

>>19791443
I almost feel bad for the all dead niggers and sjw cucks that will die off from starvation. Almost.

I wish someone smarter than me could hand hold my brainlet ass through some of this derivatives stuff. Too much industry mumbo-jumbo and murky/weird examples. The droolers always said it as "if we just capture 1-2% of the market value etc etc" which makes no sense and is retarded...but that actually looks to be the case. something between 10 to 20ish basis points. Some quick math on the gross market value (not the meme 1.4 quadrillion) puts derivatives at 500-1k per link per year as a verrrry rough estimate.

[Anonymous No.19792413]

>>19791970
but they won't be starving, the fuckers will be the foot troops of the marxist fuckers. honestly that many people jobless and without nothing to aspire will spell trouble to the world and it's a wetdream for marxist. I know what i'm talking about (spaniard who has seen his country go to the left year after year just as unemployment has grown)

[Anonymous No.19792658]

>>19791778
Taken original stake out and skimming now and again so even if when it adjusts/goes tits up I am okay. I don't like leaving things on exchanges just swung a couple of hundred on OGN which was nice as well

[Anonymous No.19792707]

>>19791970
>500-1k per link per year
That would give us LINK at something going from $5000 to $30.000. A SINGLE LINK.
To think I know about link since 2017 and I understand the true potential only today, now I understand why some anons started a diet of oatmeal and canned tuna just to put every penny into link.

I might be deluded tho as I haven't gotten much sleep. Link might fail, but if it succeed, the potential is truly something.

Keep in mind so that we don't let ourselves get carried away that capturing even 0.001% of the derivative market is not an easy thing to accomplish, let alone 1%, let alone 10%.

[Anonymous No.19792745]

>>19792707
Yea but the big brains at the WEF said by 2027 10% of the world gdp will be on block chain, and now they’re re estimating these numbers because it was too conservative.

[Anonymous No.19792788]

>>19791443
>big amounts of workers will get left in the dust.
>>19791970
>I almost feel bad for the all dead niggers and sjw cucks that will die off from starvation. Almost.
If what you think is gonna happen actually happen, UBI will be put in place and part of your money will be distributed to the jobless.

[Anonymous No.19792849]

>>19792745
So called big brains have made a lot of predictions that turned out to be bollocks, and even then it is not settled that chainlink will have a monopoly.
But I would lie if I told you it wasn't juicy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.19792887]

>>19792849
Yea but billions are bring spent on block chain dev, so let just see how far this thing takes us.

People over estimate how much can happen past 10 years but underestimate how much they can do in less than 10.

[Anonymous No.19792914]

>>19792788
They are already testing to see if it works in Finland they call it "basic universal income a solution to automation"

[Anonymous No.19792950]

>>19792707
A squirrel could abscond with your seed words you carelessly keep on your desk near the window by the tree.

[Anonymous No.19793040]

>>19792707
the idea that link 'captures' the derivatives market or that the stake must be higher than the value of the contract it represents just speaks to the amount of absolute fucking retards that hold this coin at this point

if you were in LINK prior to 2019 I have nothing but love for you. If you bought after mainnet I have nothing but contempt for you. This is a 10 year hold at minimum.

[Anonymous No.19793129]

>>19786067

This.

Staking on platforms like Tezos, or any other SC service where the staking is just a ways to validate transactions is a meme. you get 5% returns, but you are literally contributing 0. It's just useless minting of tokens for holding them without providing value. why the fuck does 5% ROI happen if these tokens are only worth something because someone else might pay more for them? just buy BTC for that, which I do.

With Link, staking returns will actually be a REWARD for PARTICIPATING in the network itself, and PROVIDING VALUE to the network.
It wont be enough to send you little shitty meme coins to Binance and then get baked Tezos every month for nothing.
You will actually have to fucking provide the network with data, or at least validate this data, and assume some responsibility for it (or risk losing your collateral). There is both RISK involved, and som VALUE being added to the network. For this, the rewards actually fucking make sense, and have some deterministic inherent value which is a complicated mechanism of the risk, the value, the data, and the token itself.

The % ROI actually makes sense. You are doing something valuable, unlike useless little memecoins giving you free tokens without any risk involved and for simply holding it, and not even having to set up a node to provide data to the network.

This is why LINK will explode and it's why Link is actually legit. it's building something real and tangible in value and creating it's own ecosystem and game theory. except it isn't limited to what is already in the system like Eth, Tez or any other faggy SC platform. it actually takes data from anywhere outside blockchain environments and gives it a value.
Obviously this gatekeeps neets out of it, but that's good. It stops it from being a meme (lol imagine neets and pajeets sending their meme coins to binance and getting staking rewards for literally nothing) and ensures that the network is actually producing.

[Anonymous No.19793149]

>>19793040
I'm in link since 2017 but bought some more in 2020, how does that make you feel?

[Anonymous No.19793192]

>>19786180

Becase other staking meme coins are useless. you click a button for holding it long enough but yo aren't providing anything to the network.

Imagine you made your own currency, nobody wants it, its useless, and you say if you hold x amount of it, you are allowed to have 5% of what you hold every year from me, who mints more every day.

What fucking USE? is it? none what so ever. you are providing nothing by holding it to get more, and the token is not getting more valuable over time. its just inflating the only hope is some other idiots will come buy it for more over time. speculation. thats what its like with staking right now on most meme coins, and its why they can offer 5% ROI for literally holding it and doing fuck all but pressing "claim rewards" every month.

[Anonymous No.19793217]

>>19793149
I got 1eth of link in 2017 1772 of them @0.18 it worked out then sold them @$2.56 yay me!!

[Anonymous No.19793238]

>>19793192

The only exception is lending platforms, but you are only getting ROI for taking on a RISK then. you are now providing liquidity, so value to the network, while having risk, and you get reward. this is how financial markets already work.
This is DEFI.

Link is taking it a step further and collateralize data itself, and also combining that risk etc.

[Anonymous No.19793293]

>>19793238
I mean, there gonna be options to give your LINK to a node operator to collatorize. What node operator wouldn’t want more LINK. I have no reason to run a node but I fully expect to get some money back from loaning my node to node operators.

[Anonymous No.19793307]

No

[Anonymous No.19793323]

>>19793040
>the idea that link 'captures' the derivatives market or that the stake must be higher than the value of the contract it represents just speaks to the amount of absolute fucking retards that hold this coin at this point
You don't have to, but would you care to explain what I got wrong? I'm not a retard I just don't have the knowledge in this tech, the reason I invested in link is that I know how to read people and my instinct told me that Nazarov was at the same time smart and honest, smart enough to have chances to accomplish what he would try and honest enough not to run away with the money

[Anonymous No.19793346]

>>19793217
Are you moving on with your life or do you plan to buy back in someday, maybe if it goes down?

[Anonymous No.19793359]

Will it be possible to stake my link from my ledger like with tezos?

[Anonymous No.19793360]

>>19793217
Yo is this you in the future?

[Anonymous No.19793365]

>>19793293

It's not POS (piece of shit) so you wont get guaranteed returns in a staking pool.
Unless that staking pool is constantly doing jobs to its maximum limitations of the collateral it has. if there are enough jobs to go around then sure, but i doubt that will be the case at least initially.

It's not POS like other blockchains. the returns for staking depend on jobs being completed. found, accepted, and completed. it's not quite so automatic.

[Anonymous No.19793370]

>>19793323
>know how to read people
no you dont. you bought in cause it was shill here

[Anonymous No.19793391]

>>19793359

No.

to sake Link it will involve hosting a server, ensuring it has 100% uptime (or lose you staked Linkies if your node goes offline during a job), and buy access to API's people want, or at least, providing APIs. maybe you already have an API.

[Anonymous No.19793405]

>>19793365
Oh I agree, I won’t stake until a good 1-2 year out or until I feel the network is safe enough and the nose operators have been given good reputations. That being said serg did talk about network fees bring used, so hopefully that revenue will be passed down to the stakees.

[Anonymous No.19793426]

>>19793192
Its a soft ponzi but it does work as an incentive for people to keep the coins out of the market, some stocks are doing similar things with dividends and they're going fine.
I agree it's kind of shit and artificial but I wouldn't be so dismissive about it, eth still is a fine investment I think

[Anonymous No.19793513]

>>19786067
We already know that brainlet.

OP's dopamine is running low and he just wanted you to post a high number and say this is the estimated monthly staking return. Not post a long explanation about how staking will work

Here you go OP

id estimate based on my analysis that we will generate staking returns of between 6 and 7.5% monthly

[Anonymous No.19793543]

>>19793346
I am not fussed made a good profit I did buy back in and swung it a few times soon after made a little. Is always one to watch
>>19793360
I had 7 btc in 2013 played satoshidice lost 6.5 then sold the 0.5 in 2015 when it hit $1000 lol
Then bought back in $3k $5k and $8.5k sold them at $16k when I cashed out needed the money so was lucky! The link were not worth selling at the time and had basically forgotten about them till they mooned. Swings and rounderbouts!

[Anonymous No.19793562]

>>19793370
Plenty of shitcoins were shilled here and elsewhere, I'll admit freely that even in 2017 link had the best memes but I actually bought it because I first listened to Sergey speak and I judged his character to be good for the task.
I've listen to plenty of other altcoins creators who were shilled here and all of them appeared to me to be scammers or imbeciles except for Vitalik and the BAT guy whatever his name is.

[Anonymous No.19793595]

personally as a 15k Linkie, i have no intention to stake.
It's both going to be too difficult for a random person like me, and I wont have access to professional networks or API to even properly participate, none the less maintain a node and all that entails.

I used to think i'd stake, but the more i understood i realised it doesn't make sense for random people like me. I'm better off selling it when it is $500+
it's enough money to retire with my stack anyway.
If i had like 3K link i'd probably need to find a way to learn how to do that and invest in the systems etc.

[Anonymous No.19793619]

>>19793543
Can't blame you, no one ever went broke from taking profits.

[Anonymous No.19793796]

>>19793595
If the network takes off and you start seeing enterprise involvement why would you ever sell? Unless you don’t want to hold anymore at that point, but we know networks grow exponentially.

[Anonymous No.19793879]

>>19786067
>the returns can be seen already each request is paid about 0.1 link
who would use an oracle at that price lmoa, bring that down to 0.01, and adjust it further down if the price goes up

[Anonymous No.19793938]

>>19793562
It was either LINK or ARK and souly because of the memes! I still watch ARK it had a little run today!
The meme game was strong!!
>>19793619
Was the link money that got me back into playing with crypto. I really should get some more link when it hits $2.50 again!

[Anonymous No.19793990]

>>19793405
>nose operators

[Anonymous No.19794008]

>>19793796

Because 15,000,000$ is enough for me

[Anonymous No.19794033]

>>19788294
How are you getting these numbers? Mad man.

[Anonymous No.19794057]

>>19794008
Gotcha that fair, i’m a patient man, i’m gonna wait until LINK hits high xxxx and low xxxxx. I got 10 years to wait, I guess for others they don’t.

[Anonymous No.19794089]

>>19794057

True. I could but that's greedy for me.
$15,000,000 would be insane money. less than that.
If only half of it was invested into stocks, even after adding inflation onto the principle and cashing out 3% a year would net me like 300-500K USD income per year after taxes.

i'm not greedy.

[Anonymous No.19794121]

>>19794089
Egh I like my job, only way I can see myself leaving within the next 3-5 years is if LINK cucks me out of it and even then it just meant it was doing the things it needed to do.

[Anonymous No.19794158]

>>19793938
>It was either LINK or ARK and souly because of the memes! I still watch ARK it had a little run today!
>The meme game was strong!!
I liked ARK meme too but they were a bit too specific and forced if you catch my drift, I still bought one ARK at the time for shits and giggle.
FUN had semi ok memes too but even those couldn't convince me to buy this shitcoin even as a joke.

You know there is much to be said about meme reading, if you compare link memes to fun memes early 2018 for exemple you see that link memes were very self-aware and confidents, half of the meme serving to FUD more than anything. On the other side fun memes were very arrogants, they felt like a teenager trying very hard to be cool.
From meme study alone, a lot could be deducted.

>>19793938
>I really should get some more link when it hits $2.50 again!
Hope you get a comfy stack anon!