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>> No.19702311
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>>19702288

>> No.19702312

420blazeit

>> No.19702314

tfw you put money into an index fund and then forget about it for 10 years

>> No.19702319

Is this upswing going to be bigger than the peak on the 8th for us oilbros or is it going to be a bit lower, trying to decide on when to sell this next top.

>> No.19702348
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Is Christopher here?

>> No.19702352
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>>19702314
were not selling ever dude what are you talking about

all of our oil stocks were only selling shares when we need money in real life to pay our rent

>> No.19702353

>>19702319
Lmao you thought you bought the dip. The dip has just begun. This week will be blood red. BOBOs are out of hibernation. Get rekt fgt

>> No.19702368
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I hope Brandon and Christopher show up today!

>> No.19702371
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i dont fuck with options because im retarded so i don't need to know what greeks are. but what does smg think of bollingers

>> No.19702375

>>19702371
>bollingers
meme

>> No.19702403

>>19702371
>>19702375
They’re just a visualization of standard deviation vs price trend, right? I like them to see if a move is way overdone and don’t fucking fomo, or maybe start taking profits and don’t put more money to work yet.

>> No.19702407

>>19702314
Isn't the downside of worldwide crisis? To reload most transactions so people know how much money is really here?

>> No.19702410

>>19702314
great plan right now

>> No.19702416

>>19702403
yeah, but I'm not sure what timescales to use to "inform" my decisions

>> No.19702419

>>19702371
>not trading with your gipsy tarot friend
Old wall street habits

>> No.19702429
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>>19702371
our whole life is dedicated around bullinger bands

were completely schizoprenic and pretend theres a pattern to the stock market and we even payed to go to college for it and then we lost all of our money hundreds of times and never learn

>> No.19702431

I'm fucking tired of being poor. Buying long dated calls on Monday. Moderna or MSGS. $15k. Do I split between the two or all in on one

>> No.19702442

anime posters will never ever make it

>> No.19702443
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You can only post ITT if you invest in worthless stocks

>> No.19702446

>>19702403
>They’re just a visualization of standard deviation vs price trend, right
Yes, moving average +- 2* stdev.
It's built onto the assumption that price mean reverts but I think that's bogus, at least not in the sense that bollinger tries to interpret it.
The ideal market "mean" is not equal to a simple average and future volatility is not equal to past stdev. If you have trending price then the average laggs horribly and your signals are shit.

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>>19702353
But... i drew a line pointing upward on a chart. stocks only go up

>> No.19702467

>>19702431
Buy sava.

>> No.19702473

>>19702371
Useless. The only thing I find that actually works is candle patterns. On somewhat less liquid stock, volume can also be useful. Volume trend overall is good on liquid stocks but not volume per se. The only other thing that works well is time. Institutions seem to setup trades on 30m intervals precisely started on the hour (so you might see a trade trigger at 13:00 and end at 13:29:59 precisely). Often, time-based patterns repeat. For example, there's a sharp movement on SPY every day around 11:00.

>> No.19702486

>>19702431
Not AZN over moderna? They signed a 1 billion vaccin contract.

>> No.19702493
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>>19702460
Daily reminder next week is going to be a bloodbath.

>> No.19702495
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This is what a top looks like.

>> No.19702503

>>19702443
can't borrow any of them

>> No.19702504
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>>19702495
This is what a top looks like.

>> No.19702511
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>>19702504
This is what a top looks like.

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>>19702511
This is what a top looks like.

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>>19702524
This is what a top looks like.

>> No.19702536
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>>19702493
Why blood?

>> No.19702543

>>19702504
Nice arbitrary metric, fren. You should go all in

>> No.19702546

>>19702493
I already cashed out of my longs that aren't for building divies and started building cash up to buy on the next doji.
Your bear market is going to be the most bullish thing in months.

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reminder that you will never find financial advice as good as you will here

>> No.19702567

>>19702524
as im retarded, i just dont get tesla. they're maybe 1/1000 of cars on the road and every other day liveleak or zerohedge has a new autopilot crash vid. the only upside i see is auto trucking but thats 20yrs away like fusion tech

>> No.19702568
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>>19702532
This is what TOPS looks like

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>>19701903
>>19701959

Steel hands here

Holding IVR until my target of 14, and not a penny less

>> No.19702576
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the real divvy is buying precious metals with your gains and storing it there instead of in cash

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>>19702493
hopefully
my position is ready

>> No.19702584

>>19702576
SVM is upcoming. Give it 2 weeks

>> No.19702586

>>19702511
>You're all delusional. Would you pls look at this retard

>> No.19702593

Made a Roth IRA today boys, say I only had 5k to start off funding it, what's the best ETFs and other shit to buy and HODL for 20-30 years? I'll be 24 this year. So if I just slowly add money to it over time and rebalance positions as needed, it should be a good set up for the future.

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To all the dumbfucks denying that insane FOMO retail trading has an effect on the market:

https://cdn.robinhood.com/assets/robinhood/legal/RHF%20SEC%20Rule%20606%20Report%20Disclosure%20-%20Q4%202019.pdf

>> No.19702599
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Will you buy the data Jew IPO?

>> No.19702603

>>19702371
Unironically the only 2 TA "tools" that anyone ever should use are 2 rolling averages with a "short" and "long" time period and RSI. Everything else is tea leaf reading and all other TA that sometimes works is because they use those two.

>> No.19702614

>>19702566
Here lies anon, a man of great bags and steel hands. He held his IVR until the day he died.

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>>19702546
I have 5k in puts i've been accumulating over the past 3 weeks so we will see(up 128% EOD Friday). This clown market is coming to an end.

>> No.19702630

>>19702599
>so secretive nobody knows what they do

>> No.19702632
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anons I made $7,150 shorting HTZ thinking to myself "who the fuck eats so much ketchup"

>> No.19702645
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Next week for covered calls I am doing SWBI, CCL, and KR. SWBI and KR are quite solid. CCL is a bit of a gamble. You can also try Oracle, they are decently safe but also less rewarding. Last week I did CHWY, GME, and PLAY. CHWY and GME were good, but PLAY did not work out as well (just as I feared). Remember to do your own research!

In other news, you might want to learn about bonds. If you go to your brokers bond search, you can search for bonds with certain ratings and Yield to Maturity. The rating indicates the likelihood of bankruptcy, with A's being near zero, B's are safe-ish, and low B's and C's are probably going bankrupt. The yield to maturity is the percentage per year you make by holding the bond. This means if you bought a bond at 12% YTM, you're effectively earning 12% guaranteed per year. If a company does go bankrupt, it doesn't necessarily mean you lose everything either, you might still receive partial payment or shares/bonds in a new company if it survives a restructure.
I have bought Nordstrom, Royal Caribbean, and US Steel bonds for 10%+ YTM.

>> No.19702650

>>19702493
It's "returned to normal 5 fucking times already. Bears coping for big green monday.

>> No.19702651

>>19702348
im here
im compiling a list of the stocks i want to invest in and i am sending it to my financial advisor, taking any other suggestions if you want to give them

>> No.19702654
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How much do I need to retire into a VR world of anime girls?

>> No.19702659

>>19702566
Invesco will go bankrupt first, anon.

>> No.19702672

>>19702524
This is a very, VERY stupid “indicator” and it undermines the rest of your argument.

You think social media retards posting dumb shit about stocks is something that just started?

If you’re gonna spam the charts, at least include some copypasta explanation and historical context.

For example, as of this wednesday, neutral sentiment among individual investors was surging to levels not seen since February. Could be interpreted as investors having higher uncertainty, or as believing things are returning to “normal”

>> No.19702677

>>19702632
makes sense, their biggest customers are restaurants and all those are fucked up big time right now

>> No.19702678

>>19702597
This doesn't prove anything. It's a baseless claim.

>> No.19702679

>>19702566
I actually got margin called on my IVR. I fucking put more money in. TO THE TOP AND NOT A PENNY LESS, I'M IN IT WITH YOU UNTIL WE GET OUR DIVIDENDS FRIEND.

>> No.19702687

>>19702593

30 years? S&P500 index. Although maybe start off with a value index, then shift to a more growth index when valuations are more reasonable.

>> No.19702701

>>19702597
The existence of frontrunning doesn't mean that you can now manipulate the whole market with a few million dollars in orders and the retail market is simply to small to be the main driver of the stock market. This Robinhood trader meme was invented because institutions wanted a reason for why they were buying up stocks and pushing prices higher than they had any right to be. There are people here that play right into their hands and now somehow deny that they're retail as well.

Also, Zerohedge is garbage and they're nearly never right.

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>>19702654
Surprisingly cheap cheap. 1 bullet or 10 feet of rope, whatever is on sale that day

>> No.19702722

How do I short the antifa CHAZ in Seattle?

>> No.19702727
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>>19702679
based

>> No.19702739

>>19702486
Just read the news. Probably too late to buys calls come monday

>> No.19702745

>>19702679
You know the dividend is going to be more shares, right??

>> No.19702747

>>19702442
kpop neither

>> No.19702751

>>19702687
Did you take a look at America recently? Balkanization might be in full swing 30 years from now.

>> No.19702764

>>19702687
When you say S&P500 Index, do you mean $SPX itself?

>>Although maybe start off with a value index, then shift to a more growth index when valuations are more reasonable

Could you give me a rundown on value vs growth index? I will do my own searching soon after though. It's easy to find definitions, but I want to gain a more intuitive understanding from it by someone who knows what they're talking about.

Thanks mate

>> No.19702766

>>19702672

Normies need to be afraid of stocks. Right now, they are afraid not be in stocks (fomo). Around 2010 normies wouldn't touch stocks with a 20ft pole. It was a casino, or if they did it was only extremely conservative index funds. That is the best time to buy. Now the typical normie is playing 3x leveraged ETFs, options, and commodity plays. That is how you know this is a huge dot com level bubble.

>> No.19702778

>>19702745
I want to invest in IVR for like 20 years or more. Their history is what interested me, not shorting them. I'm just mad because of course I bought right before bear days. I have about 800 in them.

>> No.19702802

>>19702739
>implying it won't instantly dump after the gap up

>> No.19702803

>>19702766
>people are buying stocks that people can buy
>that makes it a bubble
Not great logic

>>19702778
What about their history intrigues you?

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>>19702650
Your really think that was the big dip we had in March? Markets takes months/years to play out, you need to think longer term, that was merely a pullback. The only thing left to push the market up at this point is inflation(which is months away from being impactful, currently under deflationary pressure).

>> No.19702815

>>19702766
Nonsense. Volume is still extremely low, the story about Robinhood traders is more of a "millennials are ruining ____ now" headline than it is about wide swathes of the population fomoing. People are largely avoiding stocks right now. We won't see a return to normal volume for months

>> No.19702826

>>19702803
How they've crabbed for about 20 years and pay good dividends. The only thing that's ever hurt them was the 2008 crash and this, which of course they completely recovered. Real estate is at an all time low, Zoomers are in a good place to buy houses now if they actually went to school or tradeschool and kept working through all this.

Nah that's all bullshit I'm coping hard.

>> No.19702831

>>19702764

No I mean an index fund like VFINX. Or an ETF like SPY. ETFs you can trade like stocks, while index funds can only be bought / sold at the end of every day. But index funds usually have lower expense ratios.

The only reason I say value is I personally think a lot of big tech growth companies are way overvalued, so a value fund will have some companies with better fundamentals that are less likely to be in a bubble imo at this point in time.

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any good stock memes?

>> No.19702864

>>19702678
>That doesn't prove anything!!!
fucking KEK, you sound like a creationist christian arguing against evolution

>> No.19702866

>>19702815
true. any social media talking about robin hood is paid guerilla adverts

>> No.19702873

>>19702803

Not buyING, bought. You want to buy stocks before other people buy and run up the price, not afterwards before they dump.

>>19702815
>People are largely avoiding stocks right now.

Stock market participation it at all time highs as well as asset allocation towards stocks vs other investments.

>> No.19702876

>>19702766
Somewhat agree, but I think they're here to stay because the difference between now and 10 years ago are the apps. If there's another crash, normies will get scared, sell the bottom, then buy rising stocks because it's a great opportunity. You can even use typical normie sentiment to gauge the fear in the market

>> No.19702889

>>19702815
>People are largely avoiding stocks right now
Who opened all the new brokerage accounts then?
My broker sent me multiple mails about support being slow because they had so many new customers. What volume are you refering to?
ADF?
>>19702864
If you don't like my reply read what that other guy wrote. No reason to sperg out like this, Anon.

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it's coming boys

>> No.19702893

>>19702826
I can't disagree with the rather stable long term chart, and I do think Millennials and Zoomers are about to try buying houses as long as people can figure it out post-corona. We'll just have to see if the Fed's pumping will push REITs back up

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>>19702766
I’m not sure. Dumb money adds liquidity to the market. But right now it looks very focused on memestocks. They buy some big tech, but I would wager that’s a small part of their portfolios, one or two shares, or fractional shares.

According to robin track, there’s about 100k and 110k users in SPY and VOO
There’s about 900k users in F.

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Anyone still interested in my link?

>> No.19702919

>>19702764
A good ETF that tracks the S&P is VOO - lower expense than SPY. Take the time to go through etfdb and look around.

Small caps, mid caps, and value outperform growth early into a cycle. I think he means that growth (QQQ, VUG) is overpriced right now because we're likely at the end of a cycle. Theoretically, RSP, VB, and VTI will outperform in the year or two of an economic recovery at which point you should start adding growth stocks and ETFs.

>> No.19702920

>>19702917
What link?

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>>19702891
Green boys we booming.
Maybe I’ll buy some Tvix at EOW to hedge.

>> No.19702924

>>19702917
my penis is interested in your lewds

>> No.19702928

>>19702893
I've been saving my $ for such a long time in hopes the buy a house, but Corona seems to have proven that the whole market is one big cartel with the fed as the ring leader.

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>>19702891
all in on TVIX baby

>> No.19702937

>>19702917
nah, zoomers found out that the regular old stock market is what they thought crypto was.
it's over.

>> No.19702952

*ahem*
BUY LOW
SELL NEVER
GET RICH

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>>19702851
Does this count

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>>19702930
i'm reaching levels of cope previously thought impossible.
i saw this picture, saw them smiling and hanging out, and thought to myself unironically, "you know Zimbabwe doesn't look that bad."
we are absolutely fucked.

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>>19702920
>>19702924
>>19702937
https://act.webull.com/n/2GygSQPyqm1z/5fr/

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>>19702952
if you never sell then you can't spend the money.
if you have money but can't spend it you're as good as poor

>> No.19702990

>>19702764
SPX is the index itself. Many companies offer index funds that also track it.
SPY is the ETF that can be traded like a stock. Index funds only rebalance their funds at the end of the day. They have lower expense ratios as a result.
There is grumbling that most of the major indices are massively overweighted to a few tech stocks which might matter for a 20-30 year hold.
You can really minimize that kind of risk with something like VTSAX and VBTLX which are composed of a sampling of the entire stock and bond market, respectively. 90/10% split is considered the standard portfolio. Bonds "inverse" the market which means they do really well when the stock market isn't. Just put money in when you can. Do not worry about timing. On your timescales any dip will be inconsequential.
There is also a push to have a few choice stock picks to steadily trickle into. Companies that you expect will grow over 20-30 years (companies that have "already made it" like Facebook or Amazon might not have much more room to go), companies that have solid financials (and not just hype stocks like TSLA), and from sectors you know. Again, don't really worry about timing. It won't really matter. And then just ignore the market overall. Your individual stocks may lag for years or be winners, its hard to say. But if the VTSAX and VBTLX both sink, then there was no winning move on average anyway - and perhaps unlikely given their growth over time.
This general is very skewed to trading (buying and selling the same stock < year hold) which increases your risk tremendously. Now is also a fantastic time for traders and miserable for investors.

>> No.19702992

>>19702928
BUY A FUCKING 90 YEAR MORTGAGE NOW, MY PORTFOLIO NEEDS IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

>> No.19702996

>>19702952
Unironically true

>> No.19703001

>>19702876

I think what happened is a lot of established investors sold the crash in feb-march, already being up big regardless. After a bottom looked like it formed, there was no real reason to sell. Retail drove up the price while anyone who wanted to get out is just waiting for when the bounce will end. Now that stocks are back or above all time highs, there is no "recovery" left to ride, so no real reason to buy. Now I think anyone who has been in for a long time that didn't sell in march is looking to sell soon. If you have been investing for 10+ years you are up big now. Retail is going to get dumped on by retirees and institutions locking in profits at pretty much all time high valuations.

>> No.19703005

>>19702900
Since sports has been shutdown, people who bet sports have taken to Robinhood, they all want those quick flip stocks for quick money. They don't think long term.

>> No.19703012

>>19702982
stop posting cartoon porn, this is a christian profit-taking board

>> No.19703031

>>19702766
not a dotcom bubble, the tech stocks we have now are coming out with great products and innovation.

>> No.19703043

>>19703031
sorta like how pets.com was gonna revolutionize the dogfood industry

>> No.19703044

>>19703012
>christian
You misspelled Hindu

>> No.19703045

>>19703031
>the tech stocks we have now are coming out with great products and innovation.
https://killedbygoogle.com/

>> No.19703052

>>19702928
If you have a bunch of money saved up why not put a down payment on something? I don't see a lot for sale in my area right now but as soon as forbearance agreements start to end I bet we'll see some cheaper real estate

>> No.19703053

>>19702891
Is this why VIX is climbing? Because there's a larger pool of people willing to splurge on near term options despite costs?

>> No.19703064

>>19702599
Yes, why the fuck wouldn't you? It's pretty much investing in right-wing spook google.

>> No.19703066

>>19703045
Tons of tech stocks on nasdaq that are innovative. Were on the cusp of quantam computing as well.

>> No.19703073

>>19702969
Reminds me of the thread about that nigger who lives in nature with his wife. He looked incredibly relaxed and happy. The thread was split 50/50. One group agreed that he lives the better life and the other group was all about
>what about muh tv shows
>what about my titty skittles

>> No.19703080

>>19703066
>Tons of tech stocks on nasdaq that are innovative
Which?

>> No.19703082

>>19703043
Chewy is improving its earnings.

>> No.19703091

>>19703031

Idk man, look at amazon. $1.3 trillion valuation, with a P/E of 120, with only one profitable product, AWS, that has intense competition from another $1.4 trillion dollar company MSFT. A lot of these tech companies that have already dominated markets are priced like they are going to grow 5-10x somehow and also dominate each other's markets. The math just doesn't work out unless the market 100xes in size to accommodate all of them growing 5x.

>> No.19703095

>>19703080
Where have you been the last 10 years?

>> No.19703099

>>19702969
best of both worlds
live happy like the subhumans while staying human living in developed country
just avoid city life

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>>19703095
Watching google and facebook go 20 years killing future competitors by purchasing and then burying startups. And STILL have most of their revenue be from digital advertising.

>> No.19703126

>>19703091
The economy grows, the industry as a whole can grow.

>> No.19703131

>>19703091
now compare that to 2000's pet.com

>> No.19703136

>>19702532
Lmfao cmon this is pretty funny. Not only in that you can just bankruptcy your way out of it but how the fuck do you just pay so little attention that you wind up 700k in the hole without realizing it

>> No.19703138

>>19703052
Houses are still so far ratched up. I don't think I could afford property tax year after year. I also just know that once I buy the correction will happen. I don't even want one for the investment, I just want a locked in, same price mortgage for several decades.

>> No.19703140

>>19703121
You know there's more than a faang on nasdaq

>> No.19703164

>>19703140
NASDAQ 100 is weighted even worse by those same companies

>> No.19703165

DAL @ 40 next week.. Plz I hope so I'd get my baggie..

>> No.19703169

Been reading a ton of posts here
On weekdays there is nothing but autismo going on watching the 1M
But with markets down it’s useful contributions actually. T-thanks

>> No.19703191

>>19702891
What does it mean?
I think robinhoodies are waited somewhat this week and the market will take back money.
Wouldn't be surprised if airlines pump, or REITs and if a massive magical dump happen. I guess the buying pattern is easy to catch (massive/group)

>> No.19703195

>>19703126

Economy normally grows in the low single digits in the good times. Now the fed thinks the economy will shrink >6% this year. But for every super high valued tech stock to justify their 100+ P/E ratios the economy would have to like 100x in a few years for all of them to grow together 5-10x.

>>19703131

Its a different type of bubble

>> No.19703196

>>19703164
I don't even invest in any faang stocks, but I'm all on nasdaq, tons of cool companies.

>> No.19703207

>>19703140
Should be fagmanz now

>> No.19703211

>>19703031
Google and FB are massively overvalued. You can argue they have talent and great products, but their profitability is entirely dependent on the grand illusion that digital advertising is effective. It's not. The second that goes down the drain these companies are essentially tech thinktanks with a lot of assets that don't make money.

>> No.19703220

>>19703195
PE ratios do not need to be justified, PE ratios are an end result of supply and demand of the stock and its earnings.

>> No.19703222

realistically what can i earn in stocks if i want zero risk

>> No.19703229
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>>19702532
>Traders commit suicide at the top
What’s wrong with your brain?

>>19702982
I really, really don’t like this picture.

>> No.19703235

>>19702645
Not sure about SWBI covered call anon, aren't they releasing earnings on the 18th?

>> No.19703237

>>19703211
Overvalued in your idealistic value criteria but the market constantly reshapes itself, what's normal 10 years ago isn't normal today

>> No.19703238

>>19703222
Money markets and bond markets

>> No.19703240

>>19703211
>their profitability is entirely dependent on the grand illusion that digital advertising is effective
lol this guy doesn't think facebook and google sell all his data LOL

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YOU DUMB FUCKING BULLNIGGERS
AHAHAHAHAHHAA
I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOU ALL REKT AGAIN
THANKS FOR THE FREE MONEY
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.19703274

>>19703252
When will meme liners learn?

>> No.19703276

>>19703235
Yes. AOBC (outdoor brands) spun off their gun sector back into Smith and Wesson. The earnings is next week which means premiums will be massive. Additionally, gun stocks are on the rise: fear, riots, police, China, 2nd A. Plenty of fuel for new gun owners. I'm also looking to open a position in OLN.

>> No.19703281

>>19703191
Shhh, don’t scare them off, want to dump cheapie MITT I bought EOD Friday.

>> No.19703290

>>19703222
ZERO

>> No.19703294

>>19703211
google is doing shit with its datas
and FB wants to rule the world with one money and will fail

both are underestimating the retardation level of their assets/public

>> No.19703302

>>19703252
More discounts and formed bases? Thanks Bobo, appreciate it.

>> No.19703304

>>19703220

Nothing needs to be "justified," I am just predicting future value. A huge PE or no profit is fine if there is a lot of potential for growth. But with companies like amazon who already dominate their market, and still don't make a lot of money, how are such ratios not indicative that the stock is overvalued? And most of these high valued tech companies compete with each other, so for AWS for example to dominate, Azure would have to fail. But both Amazon and Microsoft are priced like they are going to not only both simultaneously gain monopolies but also the underlying market is going to massively grow. And the economy will shrink this year regardless.

>> No.19703318

>>19703294
the only long term high tech corporation is IBM

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77% of dentists are now fully staffed
HALF of all dental workers lost their jobs in March and April. Could be worth keeping an eye on them as a barometer... that is definitely evidence of a fast downturn and rapid upswing. V? W? Square root? Who the heck knows what happens next. But they could tell us before other metrics do.

>>19703252
Filled that lower gap, looks like we still need to fill that upper gap from the blowoff top.

I bought a lot of short exposure, and posts like yours make me very VERY worried that we’re going to explode higher.

Who the fuck decided that rise was from vaccine and recovery hopes?

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>>19703302
Why not sell at the top, buy inverse ETFs or puts on the way down and have even more capital to buy the dip with? Oh wait, it's because you're a fucking brainlet ahahahahahaaaaaaa

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Who's your favorite male pornstar?
I love watching Manuel Ferrara fuck with intensity. I wish I can fuck my girl with the same energy, I just get too tired.

Unironically, when I go on Xvideos or Pornhub, I search "Manuel Ferrara".

>> No.19703338

>>19703281
I'm often wrong, the week will probably be very fine for them

>> No.19703355

>>19703334
This reeks of reddįt. Did you steal this image from wsb retards?

>> No.19703358

>>19703304
Money can move too, if a bunch of businesses fail like oil or older industry, all investment money will move to technology and the prices will go even higher. PE ratios can for killer growth stocks have been fairly high.

>> No.19703367

>>19703355
I actually made it myself.

>> No.19703376

>>19703294
FB is the one company that i sure will fail first among tech giants

>> No.19703382

>>19703334
I have mostly cash my dear Bobo, I have a system for taking profits.

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>>19703335
I love watching Chad White. My favorite video is “Kimmy Granger Likes It Rough”. Chad gives it to her good

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>>19702371
The Bollinger band is like a Roman Ballistae

>> No.19703407

>>19702919
>>19702990
Thanks, I appreciate it

>> No.19703408

>>19703383
>>19703335
stop literal same-fagging on our white male christian board

>> No.19703411

>>19703335
>>19703383
haha my hetero bros! i sure do love how hard these guys fuck yeah *hetero ass slapping*

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>>19703318
Do not long IBM. It is in reality a law/patent firm that only LARPs as a tech company. Nobody in IT uses their products and all they do is trap non-tech zombie companies in 30 year running maintenance services.

>> No.19703420

>all these people talking about 20 year investments
>2000% increases
>retirement accounts
>I’m here watching my 10 shares of stock go from $20 to $22

>> No.19703421

>>19703332
because vaccine menas all actual social regulations imposed on ALL business are lifted
alone, the vaccine won't be enough, and new strands will/can emerge
it must be mixed with a cure molecule (probably developed by Roche and based on Hydroxychloroquine)

>> No.19703445

>>19703358

If a bunch of businesses fail, that money is gone, it doesn't move into anything. The stock market isn't like a bag of money people contribute to when they bug, and take out when they sell. When you buy a stock you are just giving money to the person who is selling you the stock. When bubbles form, there is just the allusion that all that money exists, but when price drops it rapidly disappears.

>> No.19703454

>>19703416
Yeah and it's not lucrative enough from a speculative point of view.
But neither Dataminr nor Predata are on the market yet.

>> No.19703471

>>19702930
Why would you buy tvix at this point instead of SPY puts?

>> No.19703485

test

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>>19703445
the fed just created trillions of dollars, that's new money in the system. Institutions are sitting on trillions, they will probably invest in the future. Not to mention record investment and savings. Money multiplier makes a whole bunch of new money too.

>> No.19703545

>>19703512
Inflation happens when there's no clear future. If no inflation, the society knows where it's heading.
I guess it takes some time for a LOT of people to follow the same path. Maybe faster if the path brings fun.

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>Mr. Bogdanoff? the 100,000 niggers we're not enough to crash it
>PREPARE YELLOWSTONE VOLCANO ERUPTION

>> No.19703552

>>19703471
Puts have an expiration negro

>> No.19703572

>>19703552
So does tvix

>> No.19703573

>>19703420
you are the robinhood investor boomers and jews fear

>> No.19703593

>>19703545
Inflation happens because that's how we do floating currency, inflation is all mainstream economics knows.

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>>19702314
Investing is a game of skill though, what are you some kind of mouth breathing retard? Safety scissors were invented for people who need index funds and portfolio theory.

>> No.19703607

>>19703091
You can't lump Amazon with anything. It's a subsidized commerce company on top of a tech company and (nominally) a manufacturing company (although I admit I don't know who makes all the Amazon Basics shit). They're in almost every sector but oil and PMs. Amazon is guaranteed the most solid buy you can possibly have in any market.

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>>19703420
Take every sheckle you can from those Jew bastards friend.

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>>19703420
>mfw i recieve a $1.37 dividend

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>>19702891
Meanwhile, the big boys increased the put ratio by 55%.

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>>19703421
But it has nothing to do with the Fed backdrop that I think you’re a fool if you disregard the importance of in causing the bottom and reversal.

“Vaccine hopes” are just the day to day shit that we use to justify movements in the market.

>>19703572
Much easier to time using uvxy/UDOW than dealing with actual expirations and theta directly with puts.

>>19703598
>you’re not making money the correct way because other people make more money doing things differently!!
Irrefutably true

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>>19703656
Backstop*

>> No.19703711

>>19703656
the FED injection was to prevent the market from collapsing
How can you earn leverage put gains if everyone is loosing money. The market recently create 70 billions dollars in speculative gains. Better for the FED to absorb it instead of your beloved HTZ.
The FED saying it still have lots of ammo means the market can go down and rise up few times before the full recovery, at the end of the year (vaccine+drugs)

>> No.19703716

>>19702495
Help a brainlet out: doesn’t that graph indicate that there’s an equal belief that the market will go down by the writers of all those calls? And are not generally the writers the more experienced, smarter money? Then this would be an indication of immense smart money belief that the market will go down.

>> No.19703719

>>19703656
Current price for a pervert petplay gf? Looking to hold.

>> No.19703742

>>19703716
it'll probably CRAB down
65% probability I think

>> No.19703770

Hell I'll hold my DAL till 50 per. Travel's gaining steam again so the stock price should be rebounding soon.

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>>19703719
Went up but it's still at a reasonable price.

>> No.19703807

>>19703648
wew Monday's gonna be a brutal.

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>>19703573
while our peers are rioting and thinking they will never be forgotten we are hammering the historians and moneymakers into submission by shitposting and buying shares of AAL

fuck the system, not with raised fists but with downward facing index fingers

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Berkshire bought more solar energy panels because they know which way the wind is blowing this election.

>> No.19703836

OFFICAL THREAD THEME IS HERE BOYS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcAfV6ZVggE

MONDAY GREEN BLESS

>> No.19703853

>>19703830
it doesn't matter who wins, government is going to subsidize that shit

>> No.19703875

>>19703836
Fuck you neet

ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4zys6Vfco

>> No.19703893

>>19703875
maybe you should stay home more and learn to link, fucktard

>> No.19703919

>>19703853
Reminder that cognitive colors aren't dependent of your skin colors. Your need all your senses and your brain to catch them, not only the fucking eye (goddamn egyptians with their shitty golden focus)

>> No.19703926

>>19703893
what? what's wrong with his link?

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>>19703334
>SPY
>PUTS
REDDIT

>> No.19703932

>>19703893
>link
Sorry, this is /smg/

>> No.19703939

>>19703919
i have no idea what you are talking about

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>looking to learn more about playing stocks
>check OP educational links
>investopedia
>paywall "classes" starting at $199

>> No.19703955

>>19703926
He's talking about the shitcoin he put his entire inheritance into.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeAEdU4p5Cg

>> No.19703956

i bought in for 250k yesterday.
i don't give a shit about it dipping, i'll just buy the dip.
fuck you retards
also anyone still comparing shit to a fucking 10 decade old dip in DOW, fucking DOW, is actually braindamaged

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>>19703941
Yes, and?

>> No.19703975

>>19703941
Investopedia is written by actual midwits. Case in point, their lottery article.

>> No.19703993

>>19703959
Is that lemon lime? It was supposed to be orange

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>>19703719
>Looking to hold.
For more than an evening?
Out of our price range, I’m afraid.

>>19703711
>How can you earn leverage put gains if everyone is loosing money. The market recently create 70 billions dollars in speculative gains. Better for the FED to absorb it instead of your beloved HTZ.
Can you rephrase this? I’m not sure I understand.

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19704008

Load up the spy puts

>> No.19704011

>>19703941
Learn by doing meng. Paper trade for a while to get the feel for things, then buy in and lose real money. The important thing is to take lessons away from each buy/sell you make.

>> No.19704023

>>19703941
>>looking to learn more about playing stocks
this guy is the sell signal
this is the weed bandwagon all over again

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>>19703629
>mfw fat stack $4.50 divvy has been pending in my account for 2 weeks now

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>>19704008
>Florida
Why should anyone care? Are there large shipping ports there, like port of Long Beach size?

>> No.19704043

>>19703420
Learning the basics, probably a lot cheaper than other people. Way to make a profit, anon.

>> No.19704048

Bulls are getting fucked again next week huh?

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>>19703956
Why didn’t you buy 3 months ago? Lmao you literally bought the dead cat bounce after DOW -1800

>> No.19704060

>>19704008
>tfw kept 2k in puts over the weekend
Nice. With this, there's no way we won't get a bull slaughter on monday.

>> No.19704059

>>19704048
nobody knows

>> No.19704072

>>19704052
where do you get that i didn't from?
also, who the fuck buys dow this age?
fucking retard.

>> No.19704077

>>19704059
>>19704059
This is wrong. Somebody knows.

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>>19703956
>i don't care that i'm gonna lose half of my money
??

>> No.19704089

>>19703095
I’ve been deep in tech my whole life. The last decade has seen zero innovation, the only things coming out are things we knew about 30 years ago that moore’s law has finally made viable, like AI voice recognition, driving assistants, cloud scale mapping software, VR. There is some innovation on the business side, someone figures out some market is underserved and solves it with tech, but for such a project you don’t need an innovative tech guy, just an innovative business guy. Tech has seen no meaningful innovation for a decade and the opportunity for tech-assisted business innovation seems to be drying up, though I’m less well positioned to really speak to that. Basically, there’s still room to sell office to millions more, but the ones who can pay are already customers (reapply that thought to tech-assisted business innovation)

>> No.19704090

>>19704052
>DUDE, the PAST lmao

>> No.19704095

>>19703629
DOW chemical owes me about 3.50. Their dividend pay date said 6/12 yesterday. Now it says 3/13. Don't have to pay dividends if you reverse your pay date.

>> No.19704108

>>19704077
stocks go up and down.
so yes if you say that we're going to crab between the 3100 and the 1800 for the next year you'll be right

>> No.19704110

>>19704052
Oh wow a regular two year recession. Similar to the last 15 we've had. Do you not understand American macro-economics, or something?

>> No.19704114

So what are we hoping for, boys? Red Week? Mega-Bull Run the week after?

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>>19704039
Lmao port of long beach gonna be fucked as well. You think LBC wont see a spike in cases after this?
Screencap the king of the LBC Snoop Dogg will die cause of Corona. Check em

>> No.19704127

>>19704052
>at a time when many trillions of dollars couldn't be conjured out of thin air
Totally irrelevant to today's market.

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>>19704114
i'm hoping for a crab week that btfos both bulls and bears
theta crabs WILL have sex!

>> No.19704147

>>19704079
lmao you're genuinely braindamaged if you think a -50% drop is coming
but sure i'll buy that dip with another 200k i'll have end of this year.

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>>19704114
Red week. Last week was the just beginning, Dow on Friday was dead cat bounce. Spy really struggled on Friday.

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>>19704114
Pump Monday morning, hopefully crab till EOD.

>> No.19704182

Opinions on XOM?
Still seems cheap an over a year i see bo way they don’t come back in a big way

>> No.19704190

>>19704145
I swear to fucking god if we get stuck with another month of 2800-2960 SPX crabbing I will boil every last one of you crabs.

>> No.19704192

what kind of shit can you do over weekends? i'm new to this shit and i need to be doing it everyday, right now i'm just reading articles and checking analysis

>> No.19704202

>>19704147
>wasting your money and opportunities with terrible trading
lol at the bulltard

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>>19704124
>full circle
>all roads begin and end with snoop dogg
The metaphysical implications are innumerable...

Why assume that a spike in cases in Florida implies malfunctioning at the port of Long Beach? That seems like a stretch. For one, Cali has embraced the mask and the social distancing, whereas Florida is maximum “muh freedoms”.

I may hate the leadership in California, but rick Scott is also a top tier tard.

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>>19704060
I have active $7 - 6/19 IVR calls lol. I’m gonna come here specifically to laugh in your faggot face when I get rich

>> No.19704231

speaking of dividends, one of my REITs didn't give me a dividend even though I held it through the ex dividend date (unless yahoo was wrong).
Other one gave me a fat stack of $18 properly though.

bless RioCan. How can anyone hate Canadian REITs? Still giving full dividends (payout ratio not inflated either) and gave me +20% gains over a month. Can't wait to buy back in when it's not leaning towards overbought anymore.

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Thoughts on my portfolio, /biz/?

>> No.19704237

>>19704202
wow you're beating the index? show me your sick gains, retard

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>>19704237
>he's not even beating the index
yikes

>> No.19704268

>>19704225
I pray for us both anon. By pray I mean I cry before I go to bed now.

>> No.19704273

>>19704257
show me you doing it then. pic of your 3+ year graph. come on

>> No.19704277

>>19704207
Lmao dont be fooled. I live in LA. Ots true we are more cautious but that's not stopping the "normies" from going out again simply because they are bored. You also cant forgot the protest we have here. Also there's cases in the places immigrants work at. They just wont get tested nor do they want to take a day off.
Sure the spike in cases won't fuck with the port but investors will get scared and start pulling out

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>>19704234
Looks solid but you didn’t add any cash in the past 4 years?

Is this a set it and forget it portfolio or are you active? I’m assuming it’s something like leveraged ETFs? Or maybe a few sector ETFs?

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>>19704268
W-what do you mean anon?? I-I’m not n-n-n-nervous at all

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>>19704234
Composition.
I'm thinking banking on a phat NAIL boost and putting 15% NAIL/85% folio 3, then cashing in the NAIL gains into a 100% folio 3.

>>19704280
It's emulated at $10k initial investment and monthly rebalancing.

>> No.19704302

>>19704048
It's a kangaroo market now. Bull and bear are obsolete Keynesian pseudoterminogies.

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>>19704273
I'm up 90k kr this year, which is about 9 grand.

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>>19704294
>shithu in the trash
Based

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>>19704294
I want you all to make it.

>> No.19704349

>>19704304
You're up only 3.6% and you're bragging?

>> No.19704367

>>19704349
>3,6%
Where did you get that from? No, it's over 30.

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Just posted my portfolio to /pol/cvg and asked them if a second wave is going to happen. They say yes and I am fucked along with many of you.

I think we are all going to make it though and the second wave is not happening.

>> No.19704371

>>19704089
I disagree, I see a lot of innovation. I look into a lot of companies products to see, Nvidia, IBM, Bio-tech. Things are just heating up.

>> No.19704394

>>19704367
>which is about 9 grand.
>i bought in for 250k yesterday
Assuming that was your entire balance (though later you said you bought during the dip, meaning your return is even less than that), 9k/250k is 3.6%.

>> No.19704419

>>19704368
The second wave of the chink meme is priced in.

>> No.19704423

>>19704371
>IBM
>product
>innovation
>nvidia
>innovation
what the fuck am I reading? Is this crazyland or is this bizarro Earth?

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>> No.19704439

>>19704419
The only thing that us priced in is that nothing is priced in

>> No.19704443

>>19702288
What's the best robotics stock? ABB, Yaskawa, Fanuc?

>> No.19704480

>>19704089
AMD is spicing up the CPU market, hopefully their next gen GPUs don’t suck ass.

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>>19704368
AHAHAHAHAHA hahahaha

Unironically the worst board to ask for financial advice. You’d be better off at /fit/ or /lit/ or /a/. I mean shit, you’d be better off asking /cgl/ or /tg/. Fuck actually you’d be MUCH Better off putting fortune in the option field and asking /S4S/

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>>19704368
HERE'S a fact retard. It doesn't matter whether a 2nd wave is happening or not, it's about the FEAR that a second wave will happen. Invest in VIX if you want to make it.

>> No.19704511

>>19704371
Name one big tech innovation from the last ten years, or that you see coming, that hasn’t been around since at least the 90s just waiting for moore to catch up.

>> No.19704523

>>19704423
IBMs watson is pretty cool, Nvdia has been innovative for a while, stock has done very nicely
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/about-nvidia/corporate-timeline/

>> No.19704525

>>19704368
>>19704493
If dubs you go all in on XOM

>> No.19704528

What does /biz/ think about gold stocks? Will they dip hard again with the rest of the market or will they hold ?

>> No.19704533

>>19704394
>>i bought in for 250k yesterday
Huh? Not me.

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>>19704495
you are correct, and what i have observed with my team of expert analysts these past few months is the market is reacting to the news instead of the facts

now back to the conference room, adieu lads

>> No.19704557

posting your portfolio is mentally ill

>> No.19704565

>>19704304
god you fucking swedish anime poster. reply back to me when you've beaten the index after 3 years. no, lets make that 1 year. beat spy or nasdaq

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>>19704511
virtual reality and augmented reality still have a long way to go actually, nobody has figured out how to package it right

also sex dolls

>> No.19704583

>>19704419
> second wave priced in
> ath
> yes, because if not for covid we would be at super-mega 3x ath!!
> alt. yes, because covid is really just the flu so by priced in I mean no change to the price, because nothingburger
Do you have a third alternative or have you managed to convince yourself that one of the two I listed is true?

>> No.19704588

>>19702371
Right now I'm fart shitting on the toilet, and now I wanna fart shit all over your stupid fucking face bitch.

>> No.19704611

>meant to buy tvix
>accidently buy vxx instead

Not joking. At least I will make money but no moon mission for me when it's red next week lads.

>> No.19704614

>>19704570
I played a VR game in an arcade in the early 90s, you ran around shooting at a pterodactyl. There’s no important innovation going on in VR, just the busywork of fitting more components into smaller spaces and figuring out how many FPS are needed to avoid nausea. AR is just VR with alpha channel.

>> No.19704627

>finally looked at robinhood's top stocks
Thank fuck nothing I am looking at for some options plays are on there.

>> No.19704659

>>19704525
If dubs go all in Tesla

No I didn't think so.

>> No.19704664

>>19704614
This. There's not much new since the 90s, just things that are iteratively superior. Crypto is something legitimately new since then and you've seen how that's gone. Keep an eye out for shit like that.

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>>19704565
>remember me when the market crashes on monday

>> No.19704670

>>19704523
IBM watson is just a neural net, again just old tech + moore’s law, no innovation. Nvidia doesn’t do innovation, they just follow moore’s law, bringing down the price per instruction. It’s not like there has been any innovation beyond the concept “push the pixels to a screen as fast as you can” from Nvidia or anyone else.

>> No.19704683

>>19704182
Gonna go in big on XOM if sub 40

>> No.19704693

>>19704523
>IBMs watson is pretty cool
>a literal scamware from the 80's that doesn't even work
You have no clue what you're talking about whatsoever
>Nvdia has been innovative for a while
>creating predatory monopolies by pushing proprietary software stacks down people's throats, specifically targeting sectors with reduced technological competence to ensure they can't compete with said stack is somehow an innovation
Even in a business sense it's not an innovation.
I especially like how your nvidia link shows precisely how you don't have a single clue what you're talking about. Half the things on the page are lies, the rest are insignificant. It's pure jewery.
Nvidia is a good stock because they put themselves in much the same position early microsoft did via underhanded tactics, not because of actual quality or innovation.
IBM is just a crap stock, period.
Biotech does, in fact, have innovation, but less than 1% of biotech companies are innovative. The majority are shit like petri dish producers, moonshots that don't lead anywhere, or pure scams. You obviously aren't in any kind of measure to tell what is what. Moreover, price action on biotech stock is completely unrelated to the products, if applicable, and on top of that, innovation means nothing when it's all about stuff like marketing and profitability. Most real solid biotech are not publicly traded.

>> No.19704708

>>19704664
Oh fuck, you are absolutely right, there is one big innovation: bitcoin. It has even given rise to the whole crypto sphere where innovation is going on, and one or two of the alts may even pan out.
Thanks for pointing that out, you couldn’t be more right.

>> No.19704720

>>19704583
Second wave should not cause closures simply because the closure itself is artificial and that nobody can afford to close a second time. The rest is client psychology.

>> No.19704725

>>19704665
yea an epic -50% crash on monday, sure buddy fucker

>> No.19704726

>>19704670
Moores laws is not conducive to innovation?

https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/en/silicon-innovations/moores-law-technology.html

>> No.19704734

>>19704670
IBM watson is not a neural net, it's an expert system. That's a billion times worse.

>> No.19704743

>>19704614
What I was saying is that it hasn't been packaged right. It still hasn't, although the tech behind it has improved. I really don't see video games going any other way than vr and ar. The application is what is missing here though, and that is where the innovation would come in. Cell phones gave it a jump, but there are is still a long road for it. For teach though I've invested in some VR mainly because they are sleeper stocks and all the other tech is shoved in people's faces to the point they could easily be considered overpriced.

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>>19704664
>>19704708
It's not "bitcoin" or "crypto" that is special, it's "Blockchain" which banks and shit are actively working towards to improve further and use (some are already using it). It's kind of ironic how it was created for the people to fight the unfair system and now it's literally controlled by the system it promised to destroy

>> No.19704766

Market is going to rocket up on Monday. I hope none of you are holding SPY puts right now.

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>>19704708
>>19704726
>>19704734
*sip*
You kids don't know anything about innovative products
*sip*
They sure didn't have this back in the day
*sip*

>> No.19704781

>>19704693
you just call them lies and underhanded underhanded tactics and jewery, really no substance to back your assertions

>> No.19704788

>>19704766
No
Just buttloads of UVXY and SDOW
;_;

>> No.19704795

>>19704757
its impossible until they back the crypto by gold

crypto is quite literally worth zero they can make infinite new cryptocurrencies

you are mentally ill if you dont see that

sure you can make a pile of shit worth millions for years as long as people believe in the hoax that the piece of shit is worth something

>> No.19704803

>>19704583
>If not for the chink flu AND if the trillions were still pumped we would be at super-mega 3x ath!!

Fixed for you and yes, that's correct.

>> No.19704805

>>19704743
AR is impossible for vidya by design. VR is unlikely because movement is not possible without complex hardware (like the park-like rolling floor thing), which might be inconvenient or impossible to properly get to customers (cost-wise, space-wise, etc.). At best it can be a curiosity or specialized hardware-class, like steering wheels, fighting game controllers, and such until we have neural sensors (although neural sensors aren't particularly unlikely, there's good progress in that direction, though it's far from good enough for now).
AR could be useful in some specialized workplaces, but although I've seen much PR about it, I've never seen anyone actually seriously using it. I'm not well-versed in the problems AR has. I assume it's just less convenient than a phone app (too unwieldy, not as interactive, not any more useful information).

>> No.19704806

Check out TOPS
Good luck

>> No.19704811

>>19703485
You passed

>> No.19704816

>>19704060
>rekt by theta during weekend

>> No.19704841

>>19704720
> Second wave will not cause closures
Agreed, at least initially, but that doesn’t mean it won’t wreck the economy of earnings and therefor the markets. Once we’re at Italy’s level of overwhelmed hospitals, I think the “no lockdowns” policy will be re-evaluated. Yes individual risk is low, but on workplaces with a few thousand employees a few will die. I think this will have an impact on consumer confidence/spending, thus earnings, thus stocks. And when people start dying from preventable causes due to hospitals being swarmed, and doctors are back to doing triage, living in America will lose a lot of its allure, international professionals like myself are already considering alternatives since it has become clear America is too poor and too leveraged and too incompetent to even care about the lives of its own citizens.

>> No.19704845

>>19704273
it's time for you peak retard etf investor to kys

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>>19704511
And there is this guy

>> No.19704864

>>19704788
Ahhh poor Bobo, you didn’t see sectors are back on Friday?

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>>19703830
Look at that dudes face.
Does that look like the kind of person you want to be friends with? To have as your neighbor? To be at your school? To exist near your kids? To work with at your job?

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where do I invest for long term robo-waifu technology? I'm not a weeb but that market's gonna fucking blow up in a few years.

>> No.19704892

>>19704841
> that doesn’t mean it won’t wreck the economy of earnings and therefor the markets
Yes, that will depend on customer psychology. Since they're so easy to brainwash, I'm not altogether too sure that it will be too bad. If we do get a solid second (and perhaps more) waves, this will also help clear out he surviving boomers, hopefully. Very bullish for everyone who survives, although surely bearish for the market.
As for the hospital triage, that didn't happen in the US at all. It happened in most countries with socialized healthcare though, let's not forget what happened in italy, spain and france.

>> No.19704895

>>19704845
yes the long term index fags that have been winning for multiple decades now. need to "kys"
fuck off zoomer retard.

>> No.19704897

>tfw stake in shorting Brazil
>people are dying
>economy and federal political structure dissolving
>betting against an entire country
>I might make $1000 betting against them

Lol this is the power of capitalism

>> No.19704900

>>19704726
> Moores laws is not conducive to innovation
Yes hugely, and we saw all that innovation in the 60s-90s. Since then we have only been wating on moore to catch up with all the innovation that happened back then. The proof is that you don’t own nor have heard of a single device or software that wasn’t around in some, albeit slower, version in the 90s. The only other big factor in addition to moore has been in batteries, which is the real innovation behind smart phones (and moore’s law), all the touch screen interfaces and whatnot were innovated by Xerox park before Apple existed.

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>>19704511
vaping.

>> No.19704915

>>19704887
NTDOY

>> No.19704921

>>19704708
People can deride it all they want but it's genuinely one of few real innovations in the last couple decades and you've seen billions pour into it. Some other things to look for in the coming years that are genuinely innovative and not just a better version of something we've had forever now:
>tactile/olfactory/taste remote sensory input or output
>biomech/biotech human technology integration
>fast fission nuclear power (recycling waste) or fusion power
>psychedelic medicine
>extra sensory perception
>decentralized commodity production (which is tech so old its new again)
>quantum computing/new non-binary computing paradigms (I'm waiting for a fiber optic type system that functions off of hue)
>non rocket based space entry
I'm not saying any of this will be an easy ride or quick profit at all, but any of this will legitimately be so new and not just better it will be an enormous long term buy

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>>19704895
see you in 10 years retard to get gains like me in 6 months
meanwhile in 10 years i can buy your whole life 100 times over
disgusting poor idiot boomer

>> No.19704931

>>19704878
I just want to watch him fuck my wife

NOW STOP JUDGING ME

>> No.19704933

>>19704788
I hope you have your pink wojaks ready.

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>>19704864
N-no
Which sextors?

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>>19704887
Source?

>> No.19704945

>>19704848
That’s battery tech, not computing tech, but sure I should have been clear that with tech in general, there has been some real innovation around battery tech. Still, even this mirrors the moore’s law situation in cpu tech, since smartphones, electric cars and “hoverboards” were old concepts where the battery tech finally caught up.

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>>19703919
In all due respect:
Blaspheme GOD, HELL AWAITS YOUR eternal SOUL.

>> No.19704947

>>19704900
All the low hanging fruit of tech has been picked, but the advancements made in think are great innovation, we have re-useable rockets, this is somewhat of subjective argument. Semiconductor tech is looking pretty good too.

>> No.19704953

>>19704895
etf investor is the most insufferable retarded loud mouth creatures
reminder even buffett called them idiots

>> No.19704960

>>19704848
What did his employees invent exactly? (Protip, he himself did jack shit).

>> No.19704977

>>19704921
I’m not sure if I came off as deriding so I’ll just point out that I wasn’t and I agree entirely with your posts.

>> No.19704979

>>19703956
Spent 250K on stonks, lurking on /biz/, full of shit!

>> No.19704981

>>19704945
Technology is the application of scientific knowledge for practical purposes, especially in industry. We've had a lot of innovative stuff over the last 10 years.

>> No.19704983

>>19704960
actually elon is a literal rocket scientist and a car engineer he designs all the cars the employees are just laborers

>> No.19704984

>>19704935
Keep eye on sectors and look for EOD drop. Buy in lowball EOD. Then sell on high on Tuesday morning. #DDTG

>> No.19704985

>>19704953
Buffett said ETFs are the best and wrote in his will that his children must invest in a S&P500 ETF.

>> No.19704994

>>19704983
My fucking sides, asshole! They burst after I read your hilarious post!

>> No.19704997

>>19704960
They made an electric car that whoops super car ass

>> No.19705002

>>19704985
he said for "peak retard with inexistent brain cells to rub together" it's the best that you buy etf
he's calling them idiots, which they are

>> No.19705008

>>19704960
pretty sure spooks are using his stuff, which explains his attitude

thing with Musk is he makes sense when he speaks, and that is rare. He makes so much sense that people invest in him TOO MUCH. It's not like it's even his fault, people just throw money at him so his stock keeps going up. Sometimes I think he invents scandals and smoked pot just to make his stock dip because he doesn't even know why people are so heavily invested in him.

>> No.19705009

>>19704911
Lol, fair. I’m a vaping bitcoin hodler with a hoverboard in my closet so yes, I should have pointed to those three, but memes aside vapes too are just an old concept that was waiting for battery tech.

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>>19704933
I also took a lot of profits on longs to raise cash position, and reentered AMD.
;_;

>>19704984
>#DDTG
Can’t tell if this is real... I really don’t want to start having to pay attention to this asshole.

>> No.19705043

>>19705009
bitcoin isnt new technology

literally nobody would use it if anyone had any sense of economics

it would be seen as runescape gold or wow currency

you cant just create value from fake money online its not backed by anything

usd is enforced by the us government

its like me printing out my own monopoyl money and expecting people to give me real currency for it

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>>19704887
Yeah, it's gonna be a massive market.

>> No.19705070

bitcoin became a thing for the same reason tesla hit 1000$

they had a bunch of cool videos in the beginning explaining the cool new tech of the future

and then its really just a worthless monopoly points that isnt backed by anything that you can infinitely copy the code and create your own coin

>> No.19705072

>>19704997
Professor Sibrandus Stratingh invented the electric car in 1835. Gustave Trouvé invented the first practical one also in the 19th century.

>> No.19705076

>>19704997
That's NIO

>> No.19705085

>>19705002
Then why is he failing to match the SPY returns, and why is he forcing his decedents (who would be the most well-placed to successfully follow his wisdom) to be all-in on s&p500 indices?

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>>19705072
But can it keep up with a Bugatti?

>> No.19705113

>>19705072
can you get a blow job in those cars back then while the car drives itself?
exactly.
this is literally why tsla mooning to 1000+

>> No.19705116

>>19705043
Mostly true. It's the first time the existing techs were put together in a way as to get an undeniable, consistent, decentralized, safe, trustless economic system though. And then they decided to turn it into a trustful, centralized-distributed system.

>> No.19705138

>>19704892
In Washington state they said they were doing triage over ventilator access at one point. And yes, culling the weak can be bullish long term, but maybe not during the actual culling.
You won’t hear me defending socialist medicine, I moved to America to get away from it. Funny tidbit most people who lift up Sweden’s corona response don’t know: they refuse to treat anyone over 65, in a kind of automatic triage, and this has been true the whole time /even though/ they have capacity in their hospitals. That’s socialized medicine, it’s not even that somebody with better survival chances needs the one ventilator, it’s that you’re simply not cost effective to save.
So I moved here for that. Imagine my surprise when they wanted to rip the ventilator from my billionaire friend when he was coming back from being clinically dead from covid, because they were doing triage, they said. Not what I expected from America, and now I’m low intensity considering if another move is in order.

>> No.19705174

>>19705116
no those words are just memes to get people to believe in this hoax so theres some mystery to it like youre buying into the future of technology and theres something to it

if people were smart they would no its fake monopoly money and its not "tech"

its a ponzi scheme and one that has worked and can go on for potentially decades until it becomes like floppy discs and only boomers who used to know about bitcoin was. itll take a long time for people to stop even remembering what it was to keep buying it now because of the mainstream normies pushing bitcoin. eventually nobody will even host a website where you can buy these pieces of shit.

unless they finally made a crypto backed by gold or something

all they did was make your gpu waste electricity and you bought into it.

its like me making a "new tech" and then you make it complicated and seem like it matters that its decentralized when its a decentralized worthless pile of garbage

it has no meaning

>> No.19705180

New thread

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>>19705170
>>19705170
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>>19705170
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>>19705170
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>>19704915
brilliant, thanks luv

>>19704943
the emmy threads on /co/

>> No.19705197

>>19702603
>RSI
Backtest RSI yourself. It's mediocre.

>> No.19705209

>>19705043
The fact that you can’t sell your monopoly money for $10k per token indicates there’s something wrong with your argument.
Look, bitcoin is paper gold without the gold. Some people don’t believe in paper gold, some people don’t believe in bitcoin. I think it works. Won’t debate it more than so on a forum for stonks.

>> No.19705212

>>19702632
That’s unironically hilarious
I’m dying

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>>19702891
Yeeeeeah that ain't good.

>> No.19705240

>>19705138
>over ventilator access
That's true, but they were far from the worst. Some countries like canada had no equipment left because they had the brilliant idea to send it all to china after they started seeing they had local cases.
I actually like socialized medicine, but it needs to be tiered and properly managed and implemented. Only 2-3 countries in the world seems to have done that.
At least now the US has dozens of empty field hospital for wave two so they can just dig holes on the ground to bury people on-premise and save costs!

>> No.19705258

>>19705174
The system is the tech, and it is tech. The money is just an artifact of the tech. It's not needed for the tech, and vice versa.

>> No.19705362

>>19705184
I also took profits on NTDOY... it’s at 52 week highs so......... yeah