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What are some things that are guaranteed to get your resume trashed?
>my IQ is
Any mail address besides Gmail/your own domain.
>>196820Oh look trolls>>196801HR depts. are not consistent- not even in firms of similar needs, similar size/revenue and operating in very similar fields. The reviewing of resumes/cvs, following up on references and past employers are done by "administrative professionals" a step above data entry. They follow strict guidelines from management what to allow and what to shred, and then follow their rubric for sifting purposes.This makes if much easier finding the best general candidates for further vetting or sending to interviews when dealing with an assload of people, but of course many good candidates still fall through the cracks and some of the standards are archaic. Universal shred fodder: If your resume is any color but white or beige, and text is any color but black.Font switching.Spelling mistakes.Obvious bullshitting/contradictorily information.
>>196801Education: Homeschool 2004 - Present
Writing in the first person.Seriously you would not believe the amout of resume's that get completely ignored by being written in first person.
>see job ad>I'm a bretty good match, send resume>receive copypasta reply meaning my application has been filtered out>two weeks later see same job ad>two weeks later again see same fucking job adEven if I'm only about 90% experienced with the work they expect the new employee to do, they'd probably get a lot more done if they were willing to train me that last 10%. Either that or everyone's filters are set too damn high.
Big, unexplained gaps in which you did nothing and can't possibly justify or explain it.
>>197427
Refer to this useful guide.
>>196801Who cares? If you want to ever be happy and financially independent you would NEVER work for someone else past maybe a part time job in high school.
Having a name that sounds black or Latino. Which means you might get caught in the dragnet if you're Japanese (sounds like Yoruba) or ethnic Muslim.
>>197480>Cann't>6x5Into the trash it goes
>>197480Peter Lynch saved my ass
>>197427>Not just saying "THE ECONOMY"
>>197427>putting dates on your resume
>>197517Kobe?
>>197427School. Default fallback is always school.
>>197618Yeah you might be fucked. It sucks too because I have a white name and would probably get better consideration than a better-qualified guy named Tyrone (which is fucking Scottish wtf). Or I would have if I hadn't gone to an HBCU.
>>197427>Not being able to explain itBSing is a very important skill
>spelling errors>disorganization/too hard to follow>no job experience or no college (for anything better than a McDonald's job) >can't into computers>no references
>>196801Putting your high school on itSkills: MS OfficeHobbiesNo Foreign LanguagesFace shot"Expert in ..."McDonalds/Taco Bell/Walmart/BestBuy/Macy experienceBS in CSKnowledge of Java
>>197644I am going to disagree on the spelling errors.While I didn't make an errors on my resume, I was applying for English Tutor positions and they had a textual pre-interveiw of preset questions. After I re-read it after I sent it, I did realize I had a few spelling errors. Since I was applying to be an ENGLISH tutor I thought that would've killed all my chances.I have an interview on Friday.
>>197236blue is ok on a resumetwo fonts is okay but no moreotherwise agree
>>196808holy hell surely this isnt a common occurrence. that is so cringeworthy.
Should you put interests on a resume?Mine list reading, fitness and hospitalityI'm thinking I should change that shit
>What are some things that are guaranteed to get your resume trashed?comic sansI've read through a couple of the resume threads here, and I would have trashed nearly all of them. You guys need to use strong words, not shit like "assisted so and so", or "input data into X system". You gotta let them know that you coordinated and had oversight responsibilities for all X transactions.
>>197690Unless your interests involve making sick kids better, putting out fires or solving crime, don't.Unless it is something beyond the normal scope, volunteer work is the only thing you should put in interests
>>197694Using too much jargon will get your resume trashed.Most HR people for big companies briefly read over your resume, if they can't be fucked reading all these big words, it doesn't matter how qualified you are. Into the trash.
How is my resume looking so far?>long term career is being set up currently, probably won't start that work for another 6 months>pretty desperate for any kind of jobany changes you guys would make?there are references/interests that couldn't fit on pic
>>197706>Using too much jargon will get your resume trashed.I as a hiring manager, I don't really agree. HR isn't getting into the details of your experience, they're just making sure that you're not a criminal, you pass your drug test, and your facebook posts aren't ridiculous. The hiring manager makes the decisions, and if they're good, they'll challenge the buzzwords used, and if appropriate answers are received, into the contract bin you go.source: I'm a hiring manager at a Fortune 50 company.
>>197709Most recent experience should go at the top.
>>197709Change the layout.UseMcDonalds, Preperation Staff, 2010-2011Assisted in the preparation of goods for customers, and maintained responsibilities to hit and surpass targets and timers whilst remaining a crucial individual within a dynamic team.>P.S. I'm the king of bullshitting on my resumes and making shit up in interviews. And I got called gay for doing improvisational drama in years 8-10.For your most recent jobs, talk more about them in that fashion and how great you are. The older the work experience, the less you need to talk about it.
follow up question: Do employers give a shit about resume paper?
>>197728>>197729Thanks bros
>>197740If it's got coffee stains or semen on it. Yes.But as long as its white, without a crease or dirt on it. They won't care.
>>197741>inb4 Reflex is god.>inb4 not using xerox pleb
>>197740it doesnt hurt to have nicer paper, its just a quick "ohh nice" like if you see a hot chick walk by not something you think about it past the initial point of contact
>>197754>modesti can't believe that shit
>>197661>BS in CS>Knowledge of JavaAlmost had me.
>Interview prospective employees>One of the mandatory questions is "what do you think is your biggest weakness?">At least half of the applicants give moronic not-realy-a-weakness answers like "I work too hard"Into the trash it goes
>>197785What should I say? >I hate working>I have no personality>I don't get along with people>I want to be the little girl
>inb4 my little resume>inb4 zelda resume
>>197799Pick a weakness that has nothing to do with the job at hand,If your job is to always work in a team, say you have trouble working alone etc.
>>197799Tell them a real weakness and how you cope with it, to show them you're human but it's not going to be a problem.
How is my resume /biz/?What did I screw up on
>>197815Experience is not a qualification. >>197799Basically this >>197802, a genuine weakness that doesn't interfere with your job is what we want to hear, because it shows honesty and self-awareness
>>197815>block of text>not bullets
How many of you guys paid for someone else to do your resume? I'm a shitty writer.
>>197823What should I put there then just the lone certification?
Your resume should not be more than one page long. If you have a lot of shit, try restructuring sentences/taking out spaces to get all of it to fit on one page. If you still can't fit it on one page, you have too much shit. Cut out the irrelevant shit until you get to one page. If you have a college degree, you don't need your high school information. If you have years of management experience, you don't need the sales associate job you had during college on it.
>>197480it's not a square
>>197832eh i would mention high schoolit takes like 3 words...and also, while employers say they dont discriminate upon age, sex, race, etc., they want to have an idea what your age is. sure they can assess your year graduated from college but not everyone goes to college as soon as they graduate from hs (18-19)
>>197841I think it depends on how much room you have on your resume.Obviously if you have enough room to put your high school information on one page, you should do it. But if you squeezed everything in on one page and you'd need a second page for the high school information, you should just leave it off.
>>197848well as you get further in your career, your responsibilities invariably increase so just minimize the lines or just get rid of them altogether whilst keeping the job titleit should be organic. most people who work full time have an idea what a sales associate at a large retail store performs. anyone in the finance world knows what an associate auditor (or audit intern) performs. just yeah, mention a few things. I mean if you happen to be a professor to publish articles, i can see/understand the need for two pages. but otherwise, i completely agree with one page. make it work.
An IT manager told me to format my resume in this order or most HR reps will not care to read it.>SummaryYour career goals and also goals within the company you are applying for. You need to write a biography. 4-6 sentences. >Work ExperienceSummarize your duties in 1 or 2 sentences. You don't need a long list of random things. The date you started and ended. And why you left.>EducationJust list the school you went to and your major/degree. You don't need to list your GPA, every class you took, test scores, etc. >Achievements Any thing that is related. They don't care if you were a cub scout or math champion in the 4th grade. List organizations you were apart of in college, volunteer experience, etc.>ReferencesList at least 3 professional references and contact information.
>>197863You don't need to write a biography*
>>197863uh I would not leave a summary/blog. HR people can just skim/quick view your entire resume to get your 'story'. Work experience, write a few lines. I would not mention why you left. The reason is obvious, it's either fired/left for better employment opportunity. It's like having an objective on your resume (TO GET A JOB!)Education: institution, degree, gpa is enough. if you started a club or something, that's worth mentioning. if you learned a useful application that firms typically use, I would mention (Bloomberg Terminal for instance)achievements, eh. Volunteer and any important clubs. Maybe give them a complete/overall idea how you spend your free time. I would not list references on the sheet. You don't even need to say "References available upon request". If they think you're worth their time, they'll ask for references. Also if you're a young professional, i think employers know and don't expect your reference letters to carry much weight. you can be the guy that kisses ass and begs people to write letters. think about it, at the end of the day, it's your name + few positive adjectives. its not worth as much as you think... and the person is probably not a big deal most often the time
>>197863Wrong. Provide references at the first on-site interview, and even then - you only need to if they ask for them. Don't provide a reason for leaving on a resume - that's left for an application (if it asks) and/or an interview.
>>197863This is reasonable advice for a student trying to get their foot in the door for an internship, otherwise I'd trash it.
>>197754>blue and underlined hypertext linkAbsolutely Disgusting
When you people say that having a latino name is bad, you mean poor mexican names only, right? Shit like Ramires/Garcia/Rodriguez/Gonzales/Hernandez.Spanish names/last names from Spain aren't frowned upon, right?I have a daughter named Valentina Delgadillo and she wants to move to Canada, is she fucked?
>>197863A lot of this is wrong.>summaryNot really needed. You can use it, but you should only use it if you have extra blank space on your resume that you can't fill. Should be 1 or 2 sentences MAX.>work experienceCan be 3-4 bullet points if they're relevant. Try to quantify things whenever possible and stick to big picture items. Do NOT list why you left. Why would you even do that?>educationYes, list your GPA, unless it's awful. >achievementsAgreed - stick to what you did in college and after>referencesAbsolutely not needed. They'll ask if they hire you.
>>197832This. So much this.Dont be afraid to lower your font size, mine is predominantly size 9. I used to have a two-pager, and it got me an interview with the federal reserve, but I in no way needed a 2 page resume.
>>197923>Don't list jobs that aren't at least tangentially related to the position you're applying forI disagree. When I got my first proper job out of college, I mentioned working in retail for a year when I was in highschool. When I got the job, I later found out it was because I was the only graduate with any listed work experience.
>>197799A real weakness that has nothing to do with the job.
>>197941listing any work experience is useful when you're fresh out of college, but that's just because a lot of people don't have work experience depending on where you live. writing your GPA is a good thing too when you're fresh out of college, if your GPA is high.but when you get older, you don't need to list that shit because you're on a higher ground.You don't need to mention your college GPA when you're 48 and applying for a $350,000/year job.
>>197912>When you people say that having a latino name is bad, you mean poor mexican names only, right? Shit like Ramires/Garcia/Rodriguez/Gonzales/Hernandez.>Spanish names/last names from Spain aren't frowned upon, right?What's a mexican last name?
BS info techKnowledge of javascriptAlmost anon, almost
>>197950Or you could reveal something you actually suck at but are working on improving90% of you are shit public speakers. Start going to a Toastmasters. Tell them you suck at public speaking but you've been going to Toastmasters for X amount of time and are getting more comfortable/experienced with it.For the love of god dont say "Oh I'm a perfecitonist tee hee :)" or "Oh well I wait to the last minute to do things but I do them really well" or whatever bullshit you can come up with.
>>197967there are a lot of last names in Mexico that don't exist or aren't common in Spain.
I have a daughter named Valentina Delgadillo and she wants to move to Canada, is she fucked?
>>197967weird shit like tzitzitlini, they aren't common even in mexico
>>197976Name 1You know they speak Spanish in Mexico, right?
>>197982Only people in Mexico with those names sell chiclets on the side of the road, everyone else has Spanish last names
>>197990>>198002>>197982>>197967this discussion is not the point of this thread. shut the fuck up about this already.
>>197912>DelgadilloIs in the same category as the ones you listed above. She's fucked.
>>197754You realize this is fake, right?It's "Stanford University". Literally no one who set foot on campus here would say "University of Stanford". And there's no such thing as an "Investment Banking Specialization".
>>198029The name is fucking Patty Bateman. How autistic are you?
>>197863I guess it depends what stage you are in career wise, and what field you are in, but this is bad advice for young accounting grads. A good GPA on top of your resume will get you noticed, in a good way. Summary isn't too important (we all know you want a well-paying accounting job).If you are able to show you had work experience (and possibly link it back to accounting), it will get noticed in a good way.Achievements (especially related to accounting) will get noticed.No need for references on a resume.
>>198029It's an example CV you moron.
>>197799I told an interviewer that I was a highly functioning alcoholic, she didn't see that one coming.
Having be longer than a page if you're young
Did you know that you can get an interview for a government job if you copypast parts of the job announcement off of USAJOBS.gov?
>>198118Confirmed i've done this with success.
>>197815this reeks of retardation
>>198118LEGIT FUCK USAJOBSthat place i swear never takes anyone unless they were a veteran or something
>>198167Or if you are a select ethnic minority.
>>198185I see more blacks instead of jews in the government and the black bosses I work with are way more laid back than the jew bosses and help out with promotions.
>>198203The jews are much higher up thats why :)
>>198185>literally suffering as a hard working white man in americlap
>>197754how did you learn those languages?
>>198128what did you say to the interviewer when they looked at your resume and it was copypasted?I've only gotten ONE interview off of usajobs after 4 years of applying.
>>198314They didn't realize it I don't think. They just said 'I can see you've really researched this job by your application.' And then I said something like 'of course, I never go into something without knowing what it entails...in fact I don't apply for any jobs that don't intrinsically motivate me.'
>>198333Also I got the job.
>>198333WOWzers.Did you copypaste the KSAs and limit it to that?I was always told that targeting the keywording of the KSAs was pretty much the only thing that mattered, and that pretty much tipped me off that these people were idiots but I never thought it would be THAT bad.Would you mind throwing me a few more details? I've been trying this for a long time and I'd really like to make it work somehow
>>198366Yeah not much more to it though. I just copy and pasted the KSAs that applied to me, even some that didn't that I knew I could get away with. I also copypasted the exact format they used on their example resume.
>>197389You need to tailor your resume for getting through the automated filter system. Basically copy the job posting on your resume.
>>197709Remove the stuff about financial independence in your summary
>>197236>Font switching.do you mean retarded things like the top half/bottom are different fonts or the (somewhat standard) header and body are different fonts?
>>198383Hm. Thanks for the help, I guess.Did you meet or considerably exceed the selection criteria?The criteria are so high these days you need a year's experience just to dig ditches for the fucking forestry service.Also, if you don't mind, what kind of job was it? And was it entry level, or did you have significant experience, or were you fresh out of college?Sorry for all the questions.
>putting your GPA when it's less than 3.5>hobbies: video games>"objective" section for entry level jobs>member of kappa gofuckyourself epsilon fraternityThese things warrant autotrash.
>>198366For example one from my Resume that can be found in the example KSA's is "D) Ability to communicate orally. "I also use some of the example keywords like "Orientating my staff to..." etc.
>>198414I barely met it. Fresh out of college and it was a Contract specialist. All other experience I had prior was IT related.
>>197923>don't list HTML under programming languagesonly an aspie would be riled up by this, certainly not an HR rep who has no idea what the difference between "markup" and "programming" languages are and is just looking for someone who has web skills
>>196820not firstname_lastname@msn.comgmail is as pleb as hotmail
>>197253wait why is that? If i saw a resume written in third person i'd laugh
>>198460>not 2nd person"You see from reading this resume that John Smith is a motivated employee"
>>197253http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apa0nG1OfUc
>>198442gmail is ftw man
>>198442>Not using a school e-mail address.
>>198442underscores are fucking awful.first@last, mail@initials and mail@firstlast (or the equivalent) are obviously the best, but if you have to use gmail, don't use an underscore (don't use numbers should go without saying)
>>198507Everyone I know has a firstname.lastname@gmail.com; It is the most professional imho.I'd only use your school's email address if it is a good school.
>>198500>not using xXnaruto666Xx@gmail.com
>>198512yessirI thinkfirstname_lastname@gmail.comfirstname.lastname@gmail.comorfirstnamemiddleinitiallastname@gmail.com is okaybut its better if its something that is more likejasonwbetancourt@gmail.comvs. rossssanders@gmail.comyou get the idea
>>198419Most of the people I worked with had averages in the mid to high 70s while they were in university (ie, 3.00-3.30). I was one of the few people with a 3.50 and higher. Still, they all included it on their resumes, didn't hurt their prospects obviously. The second and fourth ones usually warrant autotrash, except when you are being interviewed by a member of said fraternity. Most of my former superiors have been Jews and GDIs who despise that kind of stuff, though.
>>197640>ThisYou need to know how to bullshit.
>>198436HR no, they just compare the buzzwords in your resume to the buzz words in your description and forward you to the hiring manager if enough of them match but if your applying to a web development job then the senior tech lead who's hiring might want to make sure you no the difference. Or they might not give a shit and assume it's a simple mistake, depends on the person. Honestly the point could be summed up as "don't but shit on your resume if you don't know enough about it to actually talk about it in the interview" which is a valid point. If you say you know technology X then I might ask you about it even if it has nothing to do with the job just to make sure you're being honest with me about your skill set.
>>198512school email only makes sense if you're applying through the school's career servicesif you've been working for 5 years why are you still using harvard email?
>>198539well i would usually agree with youbut >harvardharvards a big deal my friend
>>198419i'd say 3.0 is the GPA cutoff if it's a hard school, especially if you had a higher major gpa or just had a really shitty early semester
>>198539I think Harvard is a pretty big deal in the world of business even as an alumni several years out. I'd say you're right for anything outside of your Harvard / Yale / Oxbridge's of the world.
>>198548Serious question: Why are American GPA's so bloated? Shouldn't the average mark be somewhere just above a 2.0?
>>198547because you already have harvard on your resume and should hopefully have more going for you now than "i went to harvard"
>>198559>Shouldn't the average mark be somewhere just above a 2.0?only shit schools bloat gpas, in most schools people with sub 2.0 gpas drop out/get kicked out (and there's a lot of them)
While we're on the topic, is it really going to make a difference between me having a gmail or a personal domain that I've purchased? Or is it all the little things like this that make your resume all the more merrier?
>>198560For sure, but in terms of email addresses I would say that an @harvard is probably going to be better than any other email address -- Especially since you probably don't want to be using an employer email address if you're looking for a new job.>>198568Hmm I don't know about that. I've been following some of the scamblogs related to American law schools and I'm pretty sure I've read a post that showed how different schools scaled their GPA's and pretty much all law schools utilize some form of scaling -- all of which bloats people's GPA's.
And also, assuming that any real world experienced staff are reading, I've heard that if its evident by your resume that you started at, say, a community college, earned a 4.0 GPA and continued to move your way up in a bigger and better 4 year school, does that better you in the eyes of the employer or is that whole "wow this guy really worked his way up from rags to riches" thing nonsensical to them?
>>198569it doesn't matter that much, especially if your job isn't computer related>>198574>I've been following some of the scamblogstrashman.jpg
>>198568>only shit schools bloat gpasLike Harvad. Harvard bloats the fuck out of their GPAs
>>198584I'm not american and I already have a job.I don't think our trashmen here are quite as diligent as they are in the US because here even in MBB we have idiots.
>>197389it's probably one of those fake job postings to get people to learn about their company without spending money on marketing
>>198574>scamblogs related to American law schoolsLink?
>>198609google "butIdideverythingrightorsoithought" and "thirdtierreality blogspot"
how's my resume?
>>198569>personal emailcan be try hardunless you actually have a legitimate business
>>197427"I was self-employed"
>>197661no BGNO knowledge of javafixed
While we're on the subject: How much dosh could I pull in writing resumes for people on the side?
>>197754>personal traitsDo Americans really do this?
>>198684eh its one lineand sometimes when people are bored reading typical resumes you already create a perception (a positive one) based on those wordsits not bad, imoits always a good way to see your word of choice in how you describe yourself and like how you value/prioritize idk its a good sign of character imobetter than wasting the line saying "REFERENCES AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST" no shit if you want the job and they want references, you have to give em
>>198605More likely they're just looking for H1B visas and just need to adverse it long enough to assert that there are no qualified Americans for the job
>>197427Job Hunting is considered a job these days.
>submit resume to like 20 companies through a website my school has set up>after doing so realize it was the wrong version and had that I was looking for an internship in the previous summer rather than the upcoming summer>start to panick but it's too late to change it>get some interviews anyway because the trash man probably didn't notice>come in with my correct resume and give it to the interviewer>mfw I got the jobI think that he liked that I brought in a corrected one and didn't sweat that I made a mistake. Can't wait to start working for this based man.
>flamingnipples69@hotmail.com
I've never worked a day in my life. I have about 60 hours of community service completed during high school, and I'm currently 2nd year Acc. major.how do I make sure my resume don't get trashed while I'm looking for a part time job this summer? It's so fucking empty.
>>198876If one were to really seriously treat it like a job. They would get a job. If you spend 8 hours a day, every day, seriously trying to get a job there is no way you can fail for more than six months unless you live in Detroit or have a really bad criminal history.
>Mentioning not having a premium tetrahedron. >Not getting above a 3.2 GPA in your college>Not going to college (unless you're doing construction)>Not having a GED>Being over-qualified. >Having an ugly format App
>>198920the fact that youve never worked a day in your life as a college sophomore is already giving employers reason to trash your resume, since its part time though you cant really fuck up unless your
>>198948I got the first job I applied for as a junior in college with zero work experience.I was a tutor in the school's academic achievement center tutoring finance, accounting, econ, and statistics.
>>198477Worked for Tim Schafer.http://www.doublefine.com/news/comments/twenty_years_only_a_few_tears/
>>198631>mfw this could actually be a viable resume design for Bioware
>>199036
>>198974well no shit it was at your school and probably work study related. depending on what he wants to do and who his employer is, no work experience sets off a red flag.
>>197785>I worked in $INDUSTRY, so I have limited experience with $PRACTICE.
Should I put it on my resume that I was in a Ph.D. program (not a terribly prestigious one) and dropped out? I did so to start a business, which later failed.
>>197236>Oh look trollsA lot of companies have automatic filters that eliminate resumes with emails on yahoo, msn and aol because those are considered old fashioned and technophobic.The one address acceptable by just about everyone is gmail or your own domain - that is, if your website isn't an embarrassment, because they are going to check up on it.Also clean up your facebook from drunk photos, your shitty friends posts and controversial content. This is all in case you're trying to get an actual decent job. If we're talking about pet store clerk or something, it's probably irrelevant. I'm telling you this from experience.Welcome to the future.
>>198920>part time job>resumeIs this a thing? I filled out an application and got a call for an interview and got hired on the spot for my first job.
>>197709Read this blog pagehttp://practicaltypography.com/resumes.htmland this onehttp://practicaltypography.com/summary-of-key-rules.htmlAnd follow the advice. Your resume is visually unappealing.
>>196820This, and also any email that isn't your name. sxc_angle [at] Hotmail shane_dawg at yahoo are not acceptable. If your email isn't first.last then honestly just give up. Don't even include it. Don't even apply for jobs. Kill yourself. >>197253Disagree with this. A third person resume is kind of weird. "Jake likes to play with puppies" "Jake has experience in giving handjobs" as opposed to "I like to give puppies handjobs" and so on. First person is considerably more practical. >>197517Ethnic names/difficult to pronounce names are usually a negative, for sure. >>197661Definitely +1 to including MS office as a skill, or including a face shot. That's weird. Disagree with Maccas etc. experience - depending on the job - everybody has to start somewhere, and surviving a shithole environment like that for work at least means you can work hard/survive shit employment for shit pay, which could be beneficial. >>197740>not having your resume embossed into gold leaf and inlaid with precious stones and sprinkled with gypsy tears
>>199220>gypsy tears>Associate yourself with gypsies in any way>Expecting to get a jobDoing it fucking wrong. Now, on the other hand, Orphan tears or Virgin's blood is a great way to go
>>199223Anyone applying for a job in this economy can't afford expensive Orphan tears or Virgin blood. Do you know how rare virgins are in the US? But if you can afford such luxury then sure.
>>199225>Buying itFucking jews. You're meant to get it yourself. Shows you're a go-getter.
>>199225>Do you know how rare virgins are in the US?but isn't like half of 4chan from the US?
>>199237Yeah. So we have like 99% non-virgins and 50% virgins.
My last job was 3 years ago, been in university full-time ever since then. It was just some shitty job slinging meat at a supermarket, should I bother to include contact info for my department manager?
some websites have best cv designs ever articles.. I liked this layout.
Doing it larger than two sheets, or hard to read.Surprisingly I've sent resumes with spelling errors and they called me to intervew.
>>197815Dissembled is the wrong word. Disassembled is the correct word. Also, don't be so specific about who's computers you worked on. And (as said) it isn't a qualification, it is experience.
>>198631I fucking love it. Original and would definitely be remembered. I'd call this guy for an interview just for shits and giggles.
>>198920Don't worry about it. There are lots of lower-tier jobs where just a minimal - or no - experience is fine, sometimes preferential. You'd be surprised how many employers value keenness over experience. Nothing worse than bringing some guy in to a lower tier position when he has had 20 years to get jaded, lazy and miserable.
>>199568In my experience the HR people are skimming over them so quickly they don't even have time to pick out anything but the most obvious spelling errors. It's all about the buzzwords.
>>1985263-3.3 is low 80s. Do you really not know how GPAs work?
Any online resume is word searched by a robot before it ever sees human eyes. This is especially true for every job on USAjobs.gov.If you do not have the right key words you don't even get the privileged of being trashed. You must find out what these key words are and put them in your resume if you ever have a hope.
>>199149Yes. I got hired for a summer job at a railroad company for having experience in construction on my resume. Some company cafetaria trashed it because I had no experience in catering.
>>199816Or cheat: find a block of key words and put them somewhere you have white space as white text.
Race: White
>>197480>Is an atheistBut Penn is very much an athiest
>>199834Huh. At my old place you could get hired for having a pulse and being old enough to sell alcohol.
When you forget to update "I would like work for company X", when you are sending it to company Y.
I'm white but I have a Muslim last name since I come from the Mediterranean, what does this do for my chances?
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>>199722I have to admit, I'd HAVE to see the creature that created such a thing... if he then happened to have the skills to do the job, good on him.
White male over 30 not married applying for anything under 50k a year>must be a pedophile or a faggot, but either way he's a loser>trash.jpg
What's it like working in HR? Where I work they're all bubbly assholes who toot the company line FUCKING 24/7 - YOU CANNOT GET THEM TO BREAK CHARACTER.Are their souls crushed on the inside? Or is it a really sweet gig?
>>197754>Mandarin, Chinese>Chinese
>>200866Seconding the question.
>>197785Tell them a weakness and then tell them how you're going to fix the weakness.
>>200845Sometimes you got to take two steps back to take three steps forward. I did this recently and it wasn't a problem.
>>201003I find it disturbing that people don't know how to answer the weakness question. It is only through recognising our weaknesses that we can improve ourselves -- If we think we have no weaknesses then we won't be willing to learn.
>>201013Fucking this. Say that in a job interview and you get it on the spot.
>>198605why would they want to target unemployed people they have no money probably the worst idea i have ever heard
>>196801I once told an interviewer I played world of warcraft.
>>201056Seriously I wouldn't care, if in an interview you're joking around talking about personal stuff it probably means its going well. I wouldn't be too candid, I sure as shit wouldn't tell them I post on this website, but you should try and make it as comfortable as possible.
>>200277>MuslimHired instantly because of quotas
Would would you not put MS Office as a skill when some jobs specifically say "Must have skill with Microsoft Office"?Trust me it is a "skill", people here just think it isn't because you hang out on 4chan all day where the average posted is above average intelligence and good at computers.Once you go out into the real world you will learn that half the shit you do in your sleep is a skill. I never thought touch typing at speed was a skill till I got my first office job and saw one finger typing.
>>201243...If the job says "must have skill with MS Office" then I guess I would. However, most jobs that are asking for you to have MS Office skills are after something particular like excel knowledge (ability to write complex formulas, knowledge of basic functions to things like pivot tables and VBA programming).I'm not sure what sort of jobs you guys are going for where "knowledge of word" would be a real requirement.
>>197923This guy is a douchebag and wrong on so many levels.Especially about employers not caring about your personal life.The first thing the manager of my current job said at my interview was "I already know you can do the job, because of who you worked for previously. This interview is about whether you fit into my team."Then they asked me lots of questions on my non work life.
>>201272Some people go for jobs that have only ever used a PC to browse facebook.
>>201270You can't establish a good fit based off the resume though - that's why you have it in the interview. Just because it is important doesn't necessarily mean that the resume is the right place for it.
I still don't know what email to use when my domain is firstnamelastname.me. Also looking for firstinitiallastname.io or lastname.io.
>>199768That's not how the conversion worked at my school. They told me a 3.3 would correspond to a percentage mark of 77-79.I could be wrong, after all most people in university admin positions are fucked in the head.
>>201243playing online games, like league and starcraft actually improved by WPM significantly compared to my peers, when i first started working at my job, I finished all my work usually 1-2 hrs before everybody else was done, my boss noticed me and asked me where i learned it from, I told him from computer games, he laughed and i got promoted to his paper work which is like 1/2 of my previous work. 3-4 months the computers started freeze up and we had a malware attack on a dozens computer(some faggot was going on porn websites), i told him i'll stay and fix them up for free, next day they were all running at 100%+ their original speed, free of viruses, and i got a promotion to be a tech supervisor. All i do now, is play vidya in my corner office, or hang out in his office, we usually work a 1/2 day and he takes me out to lunch/bars on fridays. I'm pretty much the son he never had. >MFW all i did was install Malwarebytes, scanned it, then uninstalled it
>>201285...whatI really can't imagine that. I mean, to even be a receptionist at my parents local plumbing company you need to know how to use basic office programs.How does one exist in 2014 without ever having used Word?
>>201270I wish I had interviews like that. The past 3 interviews I've had have been nothing more than the interviewer giving me a very, very specific scenario and asking me the steps I would take to deal with it. Problem is, since each organization deals with things a little differently, what is acceptable for one may not be for another. I liked the interviews I had for summer internships much better.
>>201310Honestly your personal email address doesn't matter that much as long as its not something blatantly stupid like ~*~*Sexxxy$toner4_20~@aol.com
>>1997683.3 is low 80? what kind of shit school do you go to.
>>199451i don't
>>199768No its low 90s. Its an A average. Its good.
>>200991Chinese is the written language and Mandarin is spoken languages
>>201013Frame the weakness like a strengthI have an obsessive personality --> It drives me crazy if there's something I don't understand and I make sure I resolve the problem even if it at times can be inefficientetc.
>>201326>How does one exist in 2014 without ever having used Word?It's 2014, Word isn't really necessary anymore, especially in favor of things like Google Docs.
>>199220>Definitely +1 to including MS office as a skillWhat if you know how to use the programs really well?
>>201576That is the absolute worst way to answer. As I explained, the point of asking someone for a weakness is that EVERYONE has a weakness.The ability to recognize where you are weak is how you recognize areas of improvement; For example it is likely for an entry level position that you don't have much experience, so your weakness is your lack of X knowledge which you plan to rectify through Y actions.Someone who deflects a weakness question by turning it into a strength is failing to recognize his weaknesses - which means he wouldn't be willing to learn anything, as he thinks he's already got it all sorted.
>>201635I get caught up in details a lot, which is a genuine weakness even if it doesn't sound like it. You have no idea how many times I've had a project completely thrown off course because I choose to focus on some little bullshit item while skimming over the big picture.I had two interviews for summer positions a while ago, one with an HR manager who said "I wouldn't really classify that as a weakness, Anon" and another with one who suffered from the same thing and acknowledged that it's fucking annoying. Needless to say, I got a job at the second firm.
>>201613Oh I'm guessing you probably meant just "MS office" as a skill, which isn't saying anything.
some motivation for you guyshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULqAIbjCsXEif this faggot can get an interview, you guys can too
>>201660It's fine as long as you are acknowledging it as a genuine weakness and not framing your weakness as a strength.
>>201635>>201660For mine, I cited patience. I said I was still working on it, but it has been improving. Said some shit about in any line of business, working with clients is essential. I don't know I just framed it like how I am improving on my weakness. Depends how cocky you are, if someone is genuinely cocky then reframing the question isn't the worst thing in the world. The best part was, "Why should we hire you?""I'm a worthwhile investment" and kept it at that;)
>>201613then write shit like MS Excel: pivot tables, VBA etc
>>201831You're kidding me right?I'm guessing you don't know any of that stuff?Pivot Table knowledge is one of the highest skills in demand because many people don't know how to use them.
>>201831Nevermind, I misread your post.
>current interviewer wants references from people within the past two years>my current employer, the only one I've been with the past couple of years, won't give out references due to their corporate rules>tfw 70% of my relevant experience for this current interviewer comes from my current jobThankfully I have volunteer references, but those aren't directly relevant to the position beyond showing dependability. How the hell do I explain to interviewers that they'll just need to trust that I have the skills I claim to have?
>>201905Ask for a 90 day probation period or something.
>>199107>emails on yahoo, msn and aol because those are considered old fashioned and technophobic.or... or maybe they've just had email for a long time and never wanted to switch to gmail... maybe?nah you're right they're probably retarded elderly technophobes, LMAO, gmail/chrome/google+ master race bros WW@?
>>201947Their hiring is highly seasonal, so I've been afraid to discuss probation because it seems that they'd really be opposed to the mere thought of having to fill this position again.
>>197517My first name is fucking weird on not suited for work in the Western world at all. Not only is my name weird, it's spelled in a way that when pronounced in English, it sounds kind of like slang for a sexual act.My name is pretty common in my country of origin, but it isn't here. Should I change the spelling of my name to better suit English speakers? How big of a deal is it having a *unique* name (I'm not black or latino or any other culture that typically has crazy names)? I do feel like I would probably get discriminated against just by name, despite being white.
>>197661Why wouldn't you put that you have a good knowledge of MS Office?
>>201971Listen Sukhdeep, get a legal name change if it's that much of a problem for you.
>>196801>Woman studies majorNot even trolling.
>>201971I'd recommend going by a middle name (assuming your country of origin is civilized enough to use them), but of course using your proper name in all official documentation. I have two last names, unhyphenated, but on my resumes I always hyphenate just for the benefit of clerical purposes; I want them to easily find my full, legal last name, not only the latter of the two. I've never found this to be a problem, and if questioned you can simply say that you felt it was better for your job search.
>>201971Alright, give up the name, we need it.
>>197785would "I worry too much" be a reasonable response. It sounds legitimate and it also sounds like you're a hard worker paying attention to what they're doing
>>201971McLovin?
>>201995Jakov (pronounced Ya-Kov). Was supposed to be named Viktor but was named similar to my grandpa after he died.
>>201996In a previous thread someone mentioned using an actual weakness, but one that's completely unrelated to what the job will actually entail. Are you applying to be in a backroom, where you'll be dealing with only your team? Admit to having difficulty speaking in front of large (two dozen or more) audiences, admit that you much rather prefer to be able to converse with a smaller group, then mention off-hand how you've taken up a few Toastmaster's or other speech-practicing seminars.Are you applying to be in a service-oriented position, dealing with clients all day? Admit to getting easily bored if you're left alone all shift to do repetitive tasks, but make sure to once again prove that you're willing to fix your "flaws" by mentioning how past experiences have forced you to thrive if put into this position you will never be in.
>>202029Say your name is Jacob.
>>202029Say it's Hebrew or Yiddish if they ask. Doesn't really matter. Once you bring up that you were named after your grandpa that died in the Holocaust, you got the job and you're on a fast track to success.
>>199451It's like it wants to be minimalistic, but doesn't actually know what minimalistic means.
>>201831Plain-old listing Excel, Access, or Publisher (whichever office programs are relevant to the job) is perfectly fine. The HR guys are jerkoffs, they WANT to ask stupid questions. They LOOOOVE asking, "So, do you know how to do pivot tables?" When you say "Why, yes I do", they pretty much cum in their pants.But the HRIS program needs to see shit like Excel (if it's relevant) on a resume, otherwise it's trashed. Doesn't matter if you just have basic Excel skills, HR aren't mind readers, many are borderline incompetent, and if they don't see Excel, they think you're just as incompetent.
>>197661>Face shotHow about a full picture of yourself in a suit?
>>197661I swear I see so many CS-focused students at my IT faculty, yet so few IS students.No wonder 30% of businesses here have trouble sourcing IS graduates.
>>201272many administration jobs
>>201696it's staged unfortunately
>self employed>running own company>social media consultantInto the trash they go!
>>198574i fucking wish my law school scaled grades like that. Our asshole profs fucked us all by curving the shit to a B- avg. (or a C+ for the real douchebags).
>>197728thats beatiful, describing a shitty mcjob so fluently. well done
I need to stop being an honest bastard and start fabricating my resume
>>202576Fabricate in the interview, not your resume.
In interviews, when asked for evidence of leadership/interpersonal skills, I have answered that I have a lot of experience DMing for large D&D groups. Some times the interviewer knows what this means and reacts very positively, but other times they just look at me blankly until I explain what that means. Should I keep this up, or stop mentioning it altogether? My current manager played D&D, and they hired me seconds after I mentioned that I am a GM.
>>202576Started doing this and lying about hours I can work> instant call backs
>>198525Protip:Dots in your gmail do not matter. You can put any number of dots where you like in the email and it will all go to the same address.Note that this may not apply for other email providers
>>201324This is my fetish. What do you do in his office?
>>197754>Care's about paper quality>Name is 'Patty' Bateman
In West Aus->Not having any goddam connections to make them throw everyone else's resume out but yours. >Even having to send a resume before you're offered the jobResources industry is so corrupt when it comes to handing out jobs.
My bachelors average is... average, and my masters average is almost perfect. Would it be hypocritical if I only list my masters average?
Reddit had a thread about CV's and had a bunch of employers talk about what needs to be on a resume and what goes into the trash. According to them, try keep a resume a single page, they are going through dozens if not hundreds of resumes, especially in this job market. Cover letter is actually more important than resume.Never put jokes in resumes as it falls flatAlways follow up on your Resume/InterviewApparently you should send a "thank you letter" to the person that gave you a interview, handwritten.Always have questions for the interviewer Always have several years experience in whatever position you are applying for.That is pretty much it from memory
>>202885>Always have several years experience in whatever position you are applying forSounds like every entry level job being advertised
>>202901It is
>>202029It is spelled with a J, it will always be mispronounced.You could have a nickname, not something stupid, just a short easy version of your real name. Maybe "Jack"
>>201977It's like saying "I know how to write with a pen"If you *don't* have knowledge of MS Office (even if you don't have it, you should at least have a good idea of how to use word processors in general), then you are a fucking waste of space.
>>203020there are still people who "don't know how to write with a pen"
>>197799Something that genuinely gave you trouble in the past, an example of how it gave you trouble, and how you've improved upon it to where it won't impact your performance anymore. The point is to make it clear that you're self-aware enough not to screw over the company doing something that could have easily been avoided. And, with how many people try to bullshit that question, answering honestly can say a lot about your character.
>>198631Honestly? That would hold up pretty damn well.
>>198631I remember the uncensored version. This isnt the resume he uses professionally. Sad part is, despite being a brony faggot he is smarter and more accomplished than most people on 4chan will ever be
>>197709I'd hire u for steak n shake.3rd shift tho so u can deal with the drunk assholes and mouth breathers>use the corp name for whatever mc'deez nuts u worked for
When did it start? Why do you have to make such a great fucking spectacle out of presenting yourself for a normal regular 9 to 5 job?
>>202867But if you list both it would show that you made progress.
>>197241Is Homeschooling really frowned upon that deeply?
>>202885>Apparently you should send a "thank you letter" to the person that gave you a interview, handwritten.That seems very awkward and importunate to me.
>>203189 >importunateSpectacular vernacular anon. Very le verbose.
>>203196I used a translator since I didn't know the word in english. Apparently I chose bad.
>>197517Haha fucker I got into a BofA ML interview cuz I'm Hispanic and picked that as my race on the online app. Made it to final round interviews and my GPA ain't even all that. Helps I'm not brown and don't have an accent though
>>202687I think it depends on the field you are trying to get into. Unfortunately with most of societies attitude I would say leave that off. I would look at that as a positive but I only manage a restaurant so not exactly fortune 500 here.
>>201961If they don't want to fill in the hole, then realize you're a little more valuable to them than you think. You can negotiate something, like you helping out in looking for a new guy.
tfw interviewer asks'sSO why do you want to work herewhen deep down they know the answer
>>203939Money shouldn't be the only reason you work though. You should at least have some enjoyment from what you do so it's pretty easy to bullshit. Like say you're at an interview for medical school or something.>why do you want to be a doctor?Ever since I was a little kid I have always been fascinated with the human body and how it functions. I want to learn as much as I can about it while helping others. Then go off into some some story of why you like helping people.
>>204107I think the question is usually more of - why do you want to work for our company specifically. Not just why do you want to work as X.
>>199056Anyone?
Previous employment: 4 years of eBay, userid "TheScarletTaint69"
>>201987Weirdly enough, my sister has a bachelors in that, and got a job as a Proctor for a university. 50k a year, and is going up for a raise.
>>196801Mistaking that resume = CVhttp://www.cvtips.com/resumes-and-cvs/curriculum-vitae-and-resume---did-you-know-it-is-not-the-same-thing.html>As a mathematical rule of thumb, M be the random variable defined to be the informal level (in a 0 to 1 scale i.e. over the interval [0,1]) of a job. Then the probability of a selected job J chosing a resume over a CV is Pr( M > informal_level(J) ) Improper grammar>Im a very active person, and I wanna seek success in my lifeMistaking computer related skills>Computer languages:>HTML, CSS, LaTeX"Putting your race, or ethnic group>Race: Black gypsy jew Putting anything related to doing drugs>Hobbies>Smoking, DrinkingPutting your skills as in a RPG fashion>INTELIGENCE = 69 IQ>PROGRAMMING = 100 javas Putting your dates or relationships>I have dated...>I have 500+ facebook friendsStating skills through anecdotic tales or even worst, with an arrogant attitude>I'm a very smart person because I don't believe in silly archaic doctrines, and my IQ is 180.Ending your resume/CV with....>Please respond
Can anyone provide a list of things that are impossible to verify that I can put on my CV:I'm at a UK university, and I doubt membership of any of the societies is verifiable...so can I just write that I was part of it.What about societies and clubs that don't exist... is anyone going to check this?How easy is it to fake short term volunteer work things?also stuff like "play rugby" pretty sure I could play once then pretend i was part of a team?
>>204107>>203939this is a bullshit question, they use it to check how you lie, and how quickly and emotionlessly you can come up with a lie and spoon feed it to them.No one wants to work for your shitty faggot company(read plantation, work=slavery), they know you want their company because it =more money, and you want to work 8hours a day for someone else for 50 hours a week, then your 2nd shitty job on weekends for 20hours because you need the money. But they also know that you know you're not socially allowed to say this. They ask to read your reactions, or if its a written response to see your lying/bullshitting style. Its like the first 5 minutes of a porn video where they ask the girl why shes doing porn. She says she "enjoys rough sex", and "has a boyfriend", the interviewer knows its bullshit and she needs the money for heroin, you can see her arms are scarred from the needles, her hands shaking from the oxy and amphetamines she took so she won't feel the anal coming up. It looks nice for the camera, and the company.
>>198390The trick for getting through the automated filters is to copy paste the ad in white in the smallest font and put it in the corner of your resume
>>204863its unlikely anyone is going to check, you just need to be prepared to lie comfortably if they ask about it in the interview. You'd be more likely to get caught out that way.
>>205169You'll be asked what you did. A photo at one of your events may be asked for if they really like what you told them but they still think you're a crock of shit. Here's the thing: If you intend to lie, lie on details, not on facts. If you managed an academic club as treasurer, the details of you being treasurer, for example, can be fudged, or how much money you managed, or how big role you had in decision making, and you're unlikely to be called out. Claiming you were treasurer when you were not, though, is a good way to get caught and blackballed.
>>197785How about...I refuse to do work that I know will be a waste of time.
>>201042Not all people looking for jobs are unemployed.
>>202885>cover letter more important than a resumeyeah, no, I don't think sowhat do you have to say of value and what message do you need to communicate, "I want this job"
the tasteful ecchi clipart that i've been using on my cover letter doesn't seem to be working
>>205671>>205671of course it doesn't, you retarded man? HR is composed of fat women, you have to include yaoi. Ecchi would only aggravate them.
>>205735of COURSE, how did i not see itokay, it's all bishies from here on out. i'll let you know how it goes
Being Black
>>205754Untrue for government positions.
>>196801Shitty presentation. This would be an impressive resume otherwise. (It actually is, but it's still cringe-worthy to look at.)
>>205894please tell me that's not a real resume that was used for an actual position
>>205909Unfortunately it's real.
everyone knows how to write a resume the real question is what is trash material for a cover letter?
>>205894I would call this dude for an interview just to ask him face to face what the fuck was he thinking when he made that.
>Socially awkward>Clearly a pushover>Will do what I wantHired.
>>205986Most systems just check to see if a "cover letter" is attached, they don't bother to read them.Would you honestly read 100 cover letters that are verbatim copies of ~5 different form letters, with the company's name slipped in? They don't get paid to.
>>205909It's a real resume from a real person. I dont believe that's one he actually uses for jobs though. He just posted it on his website one day
>>204473Hate to tell you but she sucking someone cock(s).
>>204352>>199056How much of the PhD program did you do? ABD? Up till you got a masters? Failed your first oral exam?
>>204473>Woman studies major>being successful>>206329 is the only possibly explanation
>>197912No. They mean exactly things like Ramires, Garcia, Rodriguez.Most mexicans have those last names.
>>206436I got a master's degree and passed the qualifying and comprehensive examinations. Never published enough to qualify for an oral exam, so not quite ABD.
>>197815>A+ certifiedYou dun goofed.