ETH 2.0 alternatives

[Anonymous No.19450048]

What are the true alternatives to eth 2.0 if it fails? Hard mode: no shitcoins

[Anonymous No.19450145]

>>19450048
Harmony
Elrond
Fantom

[Anonymous No.19450155]

>>19450048
Bitcoin, it was Bitcoin all along

[Anonymous No.19450157]

> ethereum pumps

> In comes the 20 cent pajeet fud team

>Streetshitter.exe successfully executed

> Good work today, ranjeesh

[Anonymous No.19450169]

>>19450155
Kys maxipad
>>19450157
Kys ethhead

[Anonymous No.19450178]

>>19450157
Rly man, look at the witti testnet explorer. No blocks were finalized in over 2 hours, i loose confidence in them. Vitalik brabbling about all sorts of theoretical things instead of working on 2.0 doesnt help either

[Anonymous No.19450202]

>>19450048
Nothing. ETH needs die & Buterin needs to be burned at the stake. Same goes for the idiots who actually think ETH was ever legit.

[Anonymous No.19450234]

>>19450048
Hex?
+Don't need 32 eth to run validator
+You don't need to manage a validator
+Better stake APY
+More transparent w/ visible stake terminations

-Much less stable, but technically designed solely for long term stability

[Anonymous No.19450248]

>>19450202
BITCOINS!

[Anonymous No.19450254]

>>19450234
>No shitcoins

[Anonymous No.19450262]

>>19450248
>alternative to eth
Bitcoin can't do sufficient smart contracts on the protocol level

[Anonymous No.19450294]

>>19450178

> Vast majority of coins still don't have any useful or working applications

> Multiple setbacks and outright failures on wave after wave of "eth killers"

> #2 coin with largest Dev base and multiple projects built on the platform

> Points out magically coordinated eth fud with 3 threads all created within minutes of each other

> Continued fud postings pointing out any possible flaws to be found, as if nothing strange ever happens in development of crypto.

> I'll keep bumping said suspiciously coordinated fud posts, only helps to prove my point

Good work today, ranjeesh

[Anonymous No.19450325]

BUSD just launched on ONE's mainnet...
I'd say it's pretty much already decided, fellas.

[Anonymous No.19450339]

>>19450294
My Portfolio has a worth of 380 eth, majority by far of that is in eth directly. You can say i am bullish on eth BUT i see the fuck ups in the testnet, and the new testnet (0.12) hasnt even started, they started the 0.11.3 a few days ago. I am actually running my own validator on the witti testnet. Calling me a Ransheesh or Pajeet will not make the problems go away. I search projects to DIVERSIFY into, to not be dependant on eth alone. That is all, i am not fudding. Anyone can look at the explorer and the github specs for themselves and see that i tell the truth with not finalized epoches for over 2 hours now and 0.11.3 specs. You are just marrying your position, meanwhile smart money is diversifying and looking for alternatives. So please contribute to this thread or kindly fuck off

[Anonymous No.19450375]

>>19450325
TY for your contributing. What i don't like about harmony is that not everyone can be a validator. All 1000 spots are taken and i search for a project where i actively can contribute as a validator

[Anonymous No.19450395]

>>19450375
I dunno, anon.
That seems like huge news.

[Anonymous No.19450411]

>>19450048
There’s nothing that will replace eth. Ada fags will rope

[Anonymous No.19450420]

>>19450395
Yeah its huge, i am researching a bit atm. Looks like everyone can run a validator node and people can elect you with stakes. The only thing is that this is hindering decentralisation

[Anonymous No.19450438]

>>19450339
Okay, I'll leave your thread alone. I would suggest you consider the Dev base and funding dynamic between eth and any other projects you may decide to diversify into. Problems can and will appear for any project developing a new technology. Many of them comprising of similar hurdles. Those problems are the reason for testnets. The whole purpose is to test and manipulate to find issues. If, however, your eth bags bring you uneasiness then it is un-sarcastically best for you to be exploring the avenue of alternative projects.

[Anonymous No.19450512]

Algroand/Dfinity/Polkadot/Blockstack

[Anonymous No.19450531]

>>19450262
Yes it can retard: Multisig, and colored coins. Bitcoin is better than ethereum is nevery way.

[Anonymous No.19450558]

>>19450531
ITT: unmistakeable spelling irony

[Anonymous No.19450750]

You know Eth 1.0 will still be up even after Eth 2.0 launches...

[Anonymous No.19450850]

>>19450531
>Bitcoin is better than ethereum is nevery way
X'D

[Anonymous No.19450879]

>>19450048
Cardano & EOS obviously, you'll be able to port eth smart contracts over to the ada network. Eos already has this feature. ADA Mainnet in 2 months. EOS and ADA are going to be the better alternatives to Ethereum for sure.

[Anonymous No.19450918]

>>19450048
>>19450178
allright allright....
Unironically ETH 1 you pajeets
It scales today due l2 and 99% developemnt and adoption is on it
If you mean POS chains for validation money I really dont see any today there are some legit shit out there but I dont see how it gets any dev traction beyond hype
Also 0 of competitors had 5 years of mining distribution or fair annyone can buy this shit ico they jsut printed coins and gaved them to vcs...
>>19450339
I have 750 ETH and i find it hard to believe you are this dumb or tech illiterate desu.
You know testnets are there to brake shit lol?
You know its not race for first functioning pos everyone will have it up and running eventually but only one will be winner and its not one who first crosses finish line but one who gets all devs and tools?
Do You understand what 5 years of making making tech stack and stanards mean and why devs need it?
Only reason you had 2017 bubble is due rc20 first real standard in crypto think about that

>>19450531
>Multisig, and colored coins. Bitcoin is better than ethereum is nevery way
This FUD got me back in ther day to not buy eth during ICO KEK I was such retard

[Anonymous No.19450932]

>>19450048
IT CAN'T FUCKING SCALE. HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO SAY THIS?!?!

ETH is pure spaghetti code. ETH was without a doubt a great idea; I will not deny that at all. However, most people in crypto don't have the comprehension or knowledge to be able and look at the code-base and identify flaws that could be catastrophic, both in terms of economic, security, and overall functioning in cost signals.

Vitalik is smart. However, he's the most retarded smart person in all of crypto. He's a fucking child who doesn't own up to his inability to produce a creation and has longevity. Him and his cronies wrote shitty-ass code. It can't scale. The only way it can scale is constant upgrades each time they feel things are getting congested. This is where the problem lies. It is impossible for ETH to implement a scaling solution to where it doesn't need upgrades anymore. For ETH to work, it will need constant upgrades of ETH 2.0, 3.0, 4.0, so on and so forth for an indefinite amount of time - just kicking the can down the road. Off-chain scaling won't work either because ETH's security is already shit on a stick. Making something more complicated that is already a piece of shit is 100% pointless. People can never steadily develop something on ETH because with each 'scaling upgrade', those who are creating on ETH will have to pivot each time to ensure their product is compatible to work on ETH. To sum it up, each time ETH decides to upgrade to scale, it just gets worse.

For ETH to work to the level needed, the amount of ETH in ever single wallet needs to be known after each transaction. Since ETH cannot implement SPV, it's impossible for ETH to scale because it does not have the capabilities to know the exact amount of ETH in every single ETH wallet after each transaction at a massive scale.

The only way to permanently fix ETH would be to roll back the chain to the beginning almost. Vitalik is just your average Russian retard who can't produce anything of value.

[Anonymous No.19450946]

>>19450879
>Eos already has this feature
For 2 years
And literally noone ported over
They even lost some huge projects like Synthetix going back to eth you shuld read there blog why mby you apes figure it out finally
Same will happen to ada

[Anonymous No.19450955]

>>19450932
Or just create a eth prime token (or whatever other name) and stake that (or whatever other purpose). Kind of second layer or but really.

[Anonymous No.19451112]

>>19450946
> eth maxi alert
Yeah cause no one likes EOS though because of its centralized nature though. They can freeze funds and bullshit. Chinks love EOS and they are the only ones buying it.

I'm an eth holder as well anon, who cares. Everyone can fucking admit this pedo coin's blockchain is slow and there is a better alternative right in the fucking top 10. I'm here to flip my BTC and ADA has that perfect potential.

[Anonymous No.19451206]

So whats your point Im not ballsdeep eth because I like pedo Vitalik its because I can use my head.
Also whats better alternative I made 46% apr doing nothing usinng defi tech stack in 2020 (literally 0 trades) where is that shit I can use on other chains?
Yes you can ride more "next eth" hype and flip some but if you are not poor and flippin coins is not your thing there is no better longterm bet.
Fud is basically "eth time runnig out" since 2018 and look where are we mid 2020 (same eth time runnig out bullshit)
https://www.technologyreview.com/2018/12/13/138651/ethereum-thinks-it-can-change-the-world-its-running-out-of-time-to-prove-it/

Now for you and fucking OP read this and report back and tell me how many smartcontracts will port from eth to other cahins:
https://blog.synthetix.io/cross-chain-infrastructure-revisited/

[Anonymous No.19451299]

>>19450918
I know that testnets are for this. BUT THE LAST TESTNET ENDED THE SAME, 0.11.2 HAD THE FUCKING SAME ERROR. They said they don't know what caused the consensus bug, but they think it was because of low validator turnout rate. Do you even fucking follow this project when you have so much eth in it? Thats the same way how BTC maximalists have fallen. Dont marry your position. Diversify into emerging projects which have the potential to solve the problems. Devs and users will migrate sooner or later, look at bitcoin, only blockstream devs there, no one more. If it keeps going like this, you only have eth foundation hired devs in a few years

[Anonymous No.19451300]

>>19451206
Yeah whatever schizo
All that matters here is that these penny coins ADA & XLM is going to btfo when it goes over 3 dollars this bullrun.

You'd rather be all in on a pedo coin instead of diversify--not my problem, keep telling yourself the fundamentals of pedo coin you fuckin schizo

[Anonymous No.19451419]

>>19450048
there are none.
If ethereum fails the only blockchains in actual use are going to be corporate and government run permissioned networks.

[Anonymous No.19451447]

Polkadot and maybe Dfinity

[Anonymous No.19451459]

>>19450178
>look at the witti testnet explorer
I looked at the issue is clear?
Casper ffg needs at least 2/3 of stake to finalize, but less is actively voting.

[Anonymous No.19451461]

>>19451419
That's what i fear. But you nether know, i also hold a little Tezos, Tomo and now also Harmony. Tezos is a little more decentralized, but the 3 big exchanges (GDax, Binance, Kraken) together with the tezos foundation have near or over 50% of voting rights so that's not good. Tomo is way more centralized, with 150 validators max and Binance has a lot of them. Tomo also has a pretty good dex live on the network. I am testing Harmony right now, it is the only with a sharding mainnet. I think if eth 2.0 fails, people will see that you can't solve the trilema and opt for more centralized but faster versions, some will go the fully decentralized route but this will be a niche object then. The masses will use more centralized networks.

[Anonymous No.19451485]

>>19450048
Are you a developer dissatisfied with ETH? Then contribute because it's the most mature and has the highest network of developers using it.

Are you looking for a pump on another project? Stop, ETH 2 will be the pump.

[Anonymous No.19451487]

>>19451459
Yes true, they will need to make an incentivized testnet someway, people are setting up their nodes and forgetting about it. Also would be good to make a GUI because most people will not bother with CLI. As i said, they think it is because of low validator turnout which leads to under 67% validating.

[Anonymous No.19451494]

>>19450178
>>19451459
what happened with previous testnet was a fork between different nodes during the quadratic leak due to minute differences in reward calculation. That was a genuine bug. There doesn't appear to be any fork now. Offline validators are currently losing eth fast.
>>19451461
>Tezos is a little more decentralized
lol no 6 entities control majority of voting.
You don't ever become more decentralized in PoS, it can only centralized from the start. Tezos is doa because of centralized distribution and even more centralized staking

[Anonymous No.19451506]

>>19451487
>they will need to make an incentivized testnet someway
what do you think phase0 is?

[Anonymous No.19451515]

>>19451494
>it can only centralized from the start
it can only become more centralized*

[Anonymous No.19451516]

Fud me on Zilliqa

[Anonymous No.19451525]

>>19451494
I mean tezos is a little more decentralized than tomo, not eth.
Good to hear but still eth is way behind in development. It has the dev and user shares, that's it. It is slow and inefficient, tx prices are not reliable, which is a big hinder for defi adoption.

>>19451506
phase 0 is mainnet, but without transactions

[Anonymous No.19451526]

>>19451516
it's not secure because every shard has 1/n of PoW security

[Anonymous No.19451549]

>>19451525
>phase 0 is mainnet, but without transactions
tomato, tomato. There are no transactions to make it impossible to profit from possible exploits. Vitalik wrote somewhere it's very ok to add slashed balances in a fork IF the loss is the result of a bug in a major node implementation.
It's an incentivized testnet in all but name. Of course, the ideal outcome is that no bugs happen.

[Anonymous No.19451560]

will eth 2.0 be a separated cryptocurrency

[Anonymous No.19451573]

money skelly said ETH 2.0 is delayed until 2021 at the earliest
ready for the dumpening?

[Anonymous No.19451588]

>>19451573
source?

[Anonymous No.19451610]

>>19451560
eth 2.0 and 1.0 will go parallel until phase 1 or 2 rolls out. You can send your eth 1.0 to a contract and mint an equal amount on eth 2.0 but it is one way

[Anonymous No.19451642]

>>19451588
twitter

[Anonymous No.19451655]

>>19451642
show it

[Anonymous No.19451660]

>>19451549
And here's the problem. They don't know what happens when they turn transactions on because it was never tested on the beacon chain. We would need a new testnet with tx on before we go in phase 1 and 2. Also smart contracts are not tested either.

[Anonymous No.19451664]

>>19451655
i cant be bothered

[Anonymous No.19451676]

>>19451660
there's nothing special about transfers, it's the simplest function possible. it's going to be tested in a testnet before being enabled.
It's very likely transfers aren't going to happen before phase1. Once eth1 is merged withdrawals are going to be finally possible

[Anonymous No.19451699]

>>19451664
weak fud attempt

[Anonymous No.19451710]

>>19451525
>Good to hear but still eth is way behind in development
except for PoS tezos doesn't have any advantage. It has the exact same scalability problems. PoS alone is a very minor advantage.
It has near zero fees because it's empty.

Currently, zkrollups are arriving very fast, loopring, deversifi, immutable, zksync, aztec. That's enough for 2k tps

[Anonymous No.19451746]

>>19451699
go look for yourself then retard i'm not trudging through twitter to prove some paid eth shill wrong

[Anonymous No.19451748]

>>19450048
Harmony.

There you go. You could literally look this up right now and become aware of the next LINK-level token.

Or you could brush over this.

[Anonymous No.19451780]

>>19451746
just admit it doesnt exist jamal

[Anonymous No.19451792]

>>19451780

[Anonymous No.19451800]

>>19450048
unironically and undoubtedfully, Hamony. the rest of the ETH killers are straight scams which even don't try to hide it.

[Anonymous No.19451833]

>>19451800
First Ethereum port over to Harmony just happened. Now it unfolds as it approaches critical mass like LINK did.

<------------------------------------------------------------->
^ we're here

[Anonymous No.19451851]

[Anonymous No.19451854]

>>19451299
>>19451487
Do you have any clue about software development I literally remember "mining wont work on eth no gui command line bullshit" story 6 years ago lol
Did you read fuckinng link i gaved you at all?
>>19451300
Ask me how I know you are poor?

[Anonymous No.19451859]

KUSAMA NETWORK

[Anonymous No.19451870]

>>19451833
LINK will follow quite soon and then CB listing and then fireworks start

[Anonymous No.19451905]

Maybe Polkadot

>>19450879
Not EOS. DPoS is too insecure and centralized to fill Ethereum's spot.