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>> No.19424327

jemus

>> No.19424330

Buy airlines

>> No.19424340

Another way to phrase it: which sectors did you buy into that otherwise you wouldn't have if there was no flash sale?
>>19424231
Airlines, oil, banking, and leisure come up a lot here. Oil and banking I can see, but airlines and leisure seem more iffy in terms of profit + growth. Defense is always a safe pick due to the massive amount of military spending we do and all the government contracting.

>> No.19424348

tsla stock is going to moon

>> No.19424351
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19424351

I bought in for the first time yesterday, any suggestions for strong mostly short-term stuff like GMBL? I'm considering getting a few shares of NAIL and selling at the end of the week. Also have MRO, OXY, CHWY, MGM and GPRO

>> No.19424354
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19424354

a n i m e

>> No.19424356
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19424356

Nth for jeebus, yahweh, krisha, muhammed, boodha, vishnu, moloch. i need them all to help my poorfolio

>> No.19424358

Reminder that "BUY AND HODL" investing is solved:
TQQQ, SPXL, UDOW
for the adventurous: URTY
for the pussy: SSO
Stop being a bagholding bitch. Play the options game and then dump into those assets above aka the ONLY assets worth bagholding.
>divvy
Traps your gains
>oil, airlines, cruise lines, hotels, etc.
Robinkiddie traps that will TRAP YOUR GAINS for 1+ years
Get on board and shut up.

>> No.19424361

>>19424348
why

>> No.19424376

>>19424361
spacex launch

>> No.19424379
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19424379

a n i m e

>> No.19424382

>>19424358
Most people just getting into trading don't have hundreds or thousands to throw into crazy gambles like that. That's why people are going for oil and casinos that are going to moon back up to their late-2019 levels briefly

>> No.19424391
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>>19424354
bellies are the new meta
butts are passé

>> No.19424395
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>>19424379
kek, based.
>rent free

>> No.19424402

>>19424376
>>19424348
Is it worth looking into buying options of TSLA? Or would I potentially lose my entire ass

>> No.19424403

>>19424358
Holding TQQQ through these turbulent weeks hemorrhages it though

>> No.19424410

At what age are you gonna start switching from stocks/options into funds/bonds? All at once at retirement? Or gradually in the decades to come?

>> No.19424413

>>19424395
>Wiz
Definitively based.

>> No.19424416

>>19424382
>That's why people are going for oil and casinos that are going to moon back up to their late-2019 levels briefly
None of them have. Small and midcaps are still mostly in the dumpster. They might, heaven forbid, actually being valued based on earnings.

>> No.19424428

>>19424351
TQQQ, USO (Until Oil is at 50 a barrel). Tesla, AMD, Zillow.

Do not buy:
Cruise or Airlines (Value Trap)

>> No.19424440

>>19424416
>none of them have
Things JUST started reopening. All the mouthbreathing dipshits that just can't stand sitting around inside are literally begging to go back out and do shit. People that frequent casinos haven't suddenly kicked the habit.

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>>19424391
I need more belly. Underappreciated/10.

>>19424402
Betting on TSLA is like betting on a coin toss. >50% it lands one way
>50% it lands the other way
>1% chance it gets lodged in your eye.

>> No.19424463

>>19424416
>cuts your forward earnings guidance
Nothing personal, kid.

>>19424440
>anecdotal evidence
Let's see how that's reflected in the data before we make any conclusions, yea?

>> No.19424466

>>19424410
My employer pension plan is already capped at max 75% stocks because they are maternalistic pussies and it will be automatically adjusted into more bonds as I get closer to retirement so I plan to be 100% in stocks with the money I invest myself. Maybe move into more stable dividend companies down the line.

>> No.19424467

>>19424428
Not even SkyWest? Their chart is the only one that looks alright, maybe Southwest. I really can't afford Tesla but I wish. Why is TQQQ so highly recommended? And I thought Zillow was starting to run into some real issues with mortgage forbearance

>> No.19424490

>>19424410
>At what age are you gonna start switching from stocks/options into funds/bonds?
Why would you? I don't intend to be a selfish Boomer. I keep it in stock, phase out options as an inheritance for my kids.
The future can only be bright by putting a gigantic not gate on "what would a Boomer do".

>> No.19424491

>>19424463
I mean isn't that what speculation is all about? I'm not buying casinos because I think they're great business but you'd be stupid to think people are just going to stop going to them. The suppression is currently artificial, maybe it won't ever return to peak levels but I'm willing to bet that they'll continue going up through the summer

>> No.19424492

Cnk earnings next week

Hmmm. If it goes up, yay, if it goes down guess I'll buy more

>> No.19424502

>>19424441
I'm trying to tone down my fantasy posting to make these threads more comfy for the christfags but you keep on posting these nice pictures that inspire my perverse creativity

>> No.19424504

Rate my dividend portfolio I just made:

STORE
Exxon
Verizon
Southern co
3M
Coke (KO)
Johnson & Johnson

I purposely kept it small because anything over ten is just an index and it’s focused on dividend income not market appreciation.
4.9% yield as of now

>>19424340
Raytheon revolves a lot around aerospace and Boeing is in horrible shape that’s why I didn’t pick up RTX. Although i May go back to it bc of its dividend consistency and its low payout ratio.

>> No.19424510

>>19424441
I just don't understand options. What does it even mean to "buy" an option of TSLA? How much could I spend? I know investopedia has definitions but I want some practical explanations

>> No.19424533

>>19424510
Options can be dangerous for the stupid. Buying stupid options will bleed you dry over months. Writing stupid options will bankrupt you in a single day.
Spoonfeeding would actually work to hurt you here.

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>>19424416
Got any midcaps to watch?

>>19424466
>maternalistic pussies
unironically, you'll be thanking them.
ROT: keep your age as a % in bonds. You're not under 25, are you?

>>19424502
There's nothing wrong with appreciating the human body. Energy is good. convert it to something creative.

>>19424510
>options
i missed that..
>10% heads
>10% tails
>80% in your eye

>> No.19424537

>>19424504
How much did you put into that? Aren't all of those like $100+ a share?

>>19424492
Bet their earnings will be garbage but looks like a decent short term buy

>> No.19424557

>>19424533
Right but I wish someone would explain it without using "options" as the definition. If I could hear a practical use explained I would actually understand it and be able to evaluate how much I actually want to do it

>> No.19424568

>>19424557
Just google "put vs. call"
I am sure you'll find options explained for dummies. They were originally intended as insurance policies.

>> No.19424584

>>19424537
M1 finance (US only) let’s you buy fractional shares and most of those are under $100/share

>> No.19424608

>>19424504
Xom ko and mmm are good I've got them

Also pep and a few other aristocrats

Plan is to hold for a year or more, if the dividend yield is good I'll keep much longer and keep growing it to hopefully get to about $60k per year dividend payment. I chose a shit career, basically capped off at about $70k, so investment is my only way up

>> No.19424630
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>>19424504
>STORE
?
>XOM
good in the mid term+ (5-10 years), you might be in for pain short term.
>VZ
8/10 or 10/10 imo.
>SO
I don't know utilities very well. I go with XLU
>MMM
I don't like it.
>KO
no opinion
>JNJ
not bad.

>> No.19424633
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19424633

my TSLA puts are looking good :)
unrealized losses are nothing to worry about.
nice little electrical storm brewing over cape canaveral.

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19424651

why did nasa and spacex choose these fucking old geezers for their historic launch

>> No.19424659

>>19424504
Divvy portfolios are pointless >>19424358
But honestly, JNJ might as well be treated as a more flexible bond

>> No.19424666

>>19424584
Well shit. Guess I'll wait until Robinhood does fractional shares.

>>19424630
Is it stupid to just buy single shares of these stocks to get my feet wet? Should I be dumping more money in?

>> No.19424683

I'm in 17 different positions. 3 are funds. I'm in DAL/MRO/and HAL purely for the profit. Doubling my money in all 3 is pretty much a sure thing. Will it take time, yeah but I'm in no rush. I still have a fat wad laying in the bank just in case if god forbid "Mr Murphy" shows up.. I'd rather spend my money on some S&P 500 beaten down stocks than on some penny stock shit that could tank the next day... Tech stocks are nice but look at the prices. Highs and nothing but. Your basically saying "I don't care to lose a big slice of my money when the fall takes place". It's like buying a new car, second it leaves the lot 30% of its' value just gets tossed out the window. (So 30% of your money you just spend is gone)

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>>19424651
no confidence in TSLA / SPACEX / ELON

>> No.19424687

>>19424633
>TSLA cheapie maybe inbound?
Based bearbro thanks for the heads up
You know they say our kind are natural enemies but I think we're two of soul, you and I
>>19424651
If that's a serious question you really need to do some homework on the apollo missions and military pilots in general

>> No.19424694

>>19424666
>Is it stupid to just buy single shares of these stocks to get my feet wet? Should I be dumping more money in?
What is your time horizon here? It is typically quite pointless to spread yourself out thinly. Because typically you will still be outperformed by just buying an index ETF like SPY but holding it rather than selling it.

>> No.19424697

>>19424666
I have a few single shares that are more than $100 eg mcd, and $100-$200 of the cheaper ones purely to keep an eye on them and consider beefing up as time goes on.

>> No.19424712

>>19424694
I'd like to cash in on some of these artificially low-priced stocks through the summer but also have a strong long game going. I would mess with options but it sounds ill advised for a novice.

>> No.19424716

>>19424490
Do you really want to concern yourself with managing individual stocks when stroke and diabetes are on your mind? Furthermore I think it's irresponsible for grandpa to assume he knows which businesses will be hot shit in 30 years. For instance, would your grandfather know to bet on AMD?

>> No.19424738

>>19424467
>The Mortgage Bankers Association's (MBA) latest Forbearance and Call Volume Survey revealed that the total number of loans now in forbearance increased from 8.16% of servicers' portfolio volume in the prior week to 8.36% as of May 17, 2020. According to MBA's estimate, 4.2 million homeowners are now in forbearance plans.
http://archive.is/zTmOp

>>19424491
>I mean isn't that what speculation is all about? I'm not buying casinos because I think they're great business but you'd be stupid to think people are just going to stop going to them.
Let's use Macau as a case study. They reopened in March.
>Gross gaming revenue plummeted 97 per cent to 754 million patacas (US$95 million) in April from a year earlier, according to data from the Gaming Inspection & Coordination Bureau. That’s the biggest drop on record, surpassing an 88 per cent plunge in February.
>The situation for casino operators in Macau has continued to deteriorate even after they reopened their doors following a 15-day shutdown in February aimed at curbing the contagion. While operations have restarted, baccarat and roulette tables remain nearly empty, and casinos are each losing more than US$1 million a day.
The good news is that casinos there have the liquidity to ride out the downturn for an extended period of time, but the point being is that we're still uncertain as to how long that time frame is, i.e., it's worth keeping an eye on how it develops.
http://archive.is/qncCM

>> No.19424803

>>19424716
My grandpa told me to long oil back in January. He had so many oil equities accumulating for decades. I really hope he didn't too beaten down through all of this.

>> No.19424840

>>19424803
Every boomer saw every mega endowment or investor "divest" for ethical reasons and actually thought it was a good play.

What they didn't get is that it wasn't ethical reasons. It's because oil is secular decline and death.

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>>19424666
If i was in your shoes, I would stick to ETFs that cover what you're looking for, but also go ahead and pick a few favorites. Stick to your plan (although I would say you might want to ease on the gas/hoard cash). It's up to you.
Note: I'm incredibly risk averse right now, and I'll stay that way until election time unless there's some ridiculous cheapies. The prices of a lot of great companies are just too high. It's all like fucking TSLA.
Personal favorites that hurt to watch:
>MA at $300
>V reaching $200
>JPM and AXP just under $100
>AMD over $50
>MU just under $50
>TMUS over $125
These prices are looking forward to somewhere between 2025 and 2035, hence the rec to stay cash heavy. I'm also very tech and financial adverse because there's nothing to really back up these prices for another five years or so.

>> No.19424884

I'm lucky in that I'll have several income streams to use when my retirement kicks in. Pension + 401k + brokerage. Even better is that I won't need to draw on them all at once.The other thing is lack of debt. Just my house to pay off that's the only thing. Thanks to the virus I've gotten a prelude to how retirement life would go (fucking nice) which during this time I've noticed my expenses take a nice drop. So when I do retire for real my monthly expenses will drop to. God just 11 years more of this hell... then freedom before or right at 50..

>> No.19424885

>>19424633
Same desu

>> No.19424890

So if the flight blows up and kills the crew, which companies do I short on Monday?

>> No.19424895

>>19424840
Oil isn't declining at all fool. We will still heavily be using oil for the next 100 years. Only thing that will change that is if retarded communist liberals finally understand nuclear energy is good.

>> No.19424896

>>19424849
So maybe put some money into NAIL? Otherwise I've got a lot of cash sitting in the bank but that feels dumb too

>> No.19424921

>>19424803
Your grandpa was right

If you're long on something it is absolutely retarded to say it was wrong because of what happens in the next few months

Now if oil stays dead for the next decade, then yeah grandpa was wrong

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>>19424391
I want to be rich enough to find a brown skin or pale white hottie with wide hips.
That or just give me a cute loli.
Flat is justice. Inb4 rich men like it flat article

>> No.19424935

>>19424896
NAIL is perfect

I'm in until at least $50

>> No.19424948

>>19424935
How much should I put in? $100? $500? Seems like it'll be solid at least through summer

>> No.19424950

>>19424884
>pension
I hope your brokerage account and 401k have a little extra cushion. US pension funds are in trouble at the moment.

>>19424921
Sometimes secular changes happen in the span of months. It's better to be flexible, not married to a position, than not.

>> No.19424955

MRO is in natural gas as well. So if they can withstand the next few months which they should considering they have a fat cash wad and lines of credit to tap, when winter comes they'll be ok. Unless people want to all freeze or spend a shit load of money switching from gas to something else..

>> No.19424973

I just started investing and got some XOM. I put a stop loss so if the stock goes down i would only loose 1% of my total portfolio balance, and bought enough shares so it could go down a reasonable amount based on its variability.
Is this retarded? Basicly im avoiding bagging it if it fucks up.

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>>19424896
https://www.direxion.com/product/daily-homebuilders-supplies-bull-3x-etf
I like the chart. I'm not sure I like the holdings. These riots should help NAIL, but i would imagine that the market for a lot of these guys will dry up until housing markets start coming back.
>but anon, muh prices are up bcuz no1 is listing them
I just don't see where the demand for housing will come from nor the credit to finance REITs and personal mortgages. I would treat it as a very short term play.
>cash sitting in the bank but that feels dumb
I felt that way and threw some extra into my brokerage account and put it into gov/muni bond funds/etfs. I'm going to stay cash heavy, i think.

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>>19424895
fusion power (not from the sun) but from reactors will solve all world's energy problems and it's pollute free it will be available within 15 years or so. All worries about pollution and lack of energy are ignorant, there will be infinite
pollution free energy soon on planet earth. Oil will be used for goods, not for transportation then

>> No.19424993

>>19424950
kek, I'm a state worker. My pension is safe. They can't fuck with it. Considering the vast number of state employees, teachers,local govt officials, local govt employees, legislators and judges that the pension plan covers yeah it ain't going anywhere.

>> No.19425001

>>19424630
>STORE
Single Tenant Occupied Real Estate. They’re basically the same as Realty Income Corp but they have a better P/E, dividend, and payout ratio. I took a gamble on them but my fears are assured by the fact Buffet owns shares too.
I don’t know utilities either but I like their dividend history and payout ratio plus better revenue growth than the others. I don’t really know anything about TA I just look at a few things and go for $1b+ companies that have a good track record for dividends.
I only hold a small number of companies bc I don’t believe in modern portfolio theory. Otherwise I’d just buy indices

>> No.19425008

>>19424950
So don't be long on anything?

>>19424948
Don't put any money into anything that you can't afford to lose or you'll end up making emotional decisions.

Wait until NAIL is falling to buy it. With the amounts of money you're talking about, buy one share at every .20 drop. If it isn't dropping, you aren't buying. If it gets up to 3-5% higher than your average price, sell a share for every .20 increase. When you run out of shares, you will have more money than you started with and you'll be ready to watch and wait for it to drop again at which point you repeat the process.

>> No.19425018

>>19424979
Better get rid of all the hippies first before they ruin another good thing.

>> No.19425027

>>19424978

>where the demand for housing will come from
I think from all the people trying to escape densely populated areas, who coincidentally also happen to have more cash on hand a lot of the time

I'm happy holding cash but would it be stupid to transform some (~$2-5k) cash into something like a car or some other asset that I could sell at some point?

>> No.19425030
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19425030

Best small cap oil & energy: SSL. South Africa opens next week, expect a pump. If it reaches pre corona levels, it’s a 5x

>> No.19425036

>>19425008
Also note that with your amount of money you can't day trade. So make sure your buys are ONLY when the stock is dropping. The worse it looks the better it is to buy.

You'll likely be able to sell them the next day, or two days later at worst.

>> No.19425047

>>19425008
>Wait until NAIL is falling to buy it
But the chart seems to generally be going upwards and looks like it'll be doing that for a while. Still buy one share for every 20 cents down?

>> No.19425060

>>19425027
Cars depreciate and are the worst thing you could buy to try to store value unless you're getting something at an INSANE steal from somebody who is desperate.

Not something you like. Something that consistently sells. If you don't know the market, don't even try you'll get fucked.

>> No.19425061

What do the /biz/aelis think about REITs right now? Seem like the only value you can find other than energy/financials.

>> No.19425076

>>19425060
What about a more collectible classic car? Looking through FB Marketplace and Craigslist it seems like local yokels are more than happy to pay $3500 for some 70s hunk

>> No.19425090

>>19425047
It goes up for a few days and then drops a day or two.

I was able to increase from 120 to 191 and lower my average price from 30.50 to 29.50 without adding a penny to my account by selling NAIL after it went up after market then slowly buying back in as it dipped through the morning on both Thursday and Friday.

>> No.19425096

>>19425008
>Don't put any money into anything that you can't afford to lose or you'll end up making emotional decisions.

This is VERY important for many small time investors. You HAVE to be willing to accept that you can lose it all. I've missed out on so many fantastic opportunities when I was new to trading because I had the mindset of "what if I lose my money? Should I really risk it all? I could be wrong afterall...". Then when I did put it in, any little drop would have me panic sell from the thought of losing it all.

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>>19424993
>They can't fuck with it.
haha, be careful and plan accordingly.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-new-jersey-pensions/new-jersey-governor-christie-wins-court-victory-over-pension-cuts-idUSKBN0OP0CA20150609
https://www.ai-cio.com/news/california-supreme-court-rules-favor-pension-benefit-cuts/

>>19425001
sounds like a decent exposure.

>>19425027
>who coincidentally also happen to have more cash on hand a lot of the time
i would imagine that they will not be underwritten so easily for mortgages. I don't really know what housing will do, but it's not a very liquid market, especially right now. I don't think cash on hand will offset tightening credit at all.
>to transform some (~$2-5k) cash into something like a car or some other asset that I could sell at some point?
If you like playing with cars, sure. otherwise, i would only get a car if you need to use it. Great time to start looking to buy a car. I wouldn't say that for a house. The government entities going bankrupt + increasing taxes on a municipality to municipality basis is probably going to be a big commotion.

>> No.19425104

>>19425076
Do you know a lot about 70s collectible cars?

>> No.19425108

>>19424973

if youre gonna hold XOM long term, why put a tight stop loss? Its been crabbing back and forth lately, chances are it will probably trigger and lock in a loss before it gains anything

>> No.19425125

>>19425097
My parents just sold their house on the first day real estate opened back up to people coming from NYC at probably 20k more than they were expecting to get for it before corona shut everything down.

>> No.19425132

>>19424354
>>19424395
>>19424978
crypto fag here to say you sir have excellent tastes

>> No.19425142

>>19424979
Next generation fission reactors are closer, the technology essentially exists (whereas fusion is greatly hampered by materials at the moment), and they can be made with substantially reduced waste. Make use of what we have while we wait another 50 years for fusion. >>19425018 and use hippies for coolant.

>>19424993
I expect bailouts for that reason, but why would you take the risk? There are other outcomes other than pension funds simply collapsing (>>19425097) that could still result in short-term pain.

>>19425008
>So don't be long on anything.
If it's a solid investment, then why not? More so, don't be married to a position in the event that there's new information you need to consider that might otherwise change your how you approach that position. Do your DD but don't let it bias you.

>>19425125
It's going to take longer for the secondary effects to start hitting the real economy.

>> No.19425157

>>19424890
That is extremely bullish you retard

>> No.19425166

Imagine thinking casinos and cruise lines are value traps lmao how fucking stupid can you be? HOLD THE LINE SEA CATS

>> No.19425179

>>19425097
>>19425104
I'm not a garage monkey or anything but I at least know enough about cars not to fuck one up so badly that I couldn't sell it. It does seem like a lot of money to tie up into something with all this commotion happening though; it's just that I don't want to be caught holding a bunch of useless dollars if something really dumb happens

>> No.19425194

>>19425142
>It's going to take longer for the secondary effects to start hitting the real economy.
Yeah. We've been told a lot of shit about what's going to happen.

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>>19425125
good on them. great timing imho. There was a flood of applicants for mortgages, but I think it's a flight to use debt while it's freely available. Tangibles are great, especially if you can get the financing even if the asset itself may depreciate. There's nothing wrong with (and it's probably better to be) renting until this thing blows over, especially if you have not found a decent deal.

>>19425132
I love 2D.

>>19425179
if you actually need a car, i would say that now is a fine time to try getting one, especially if you need to use debt. Debt is a really great tool for many people right now. If you need a car, consider it. You likely won't see the financing rates this low again for a while. Cars as assets... I don't know, i just know it's generally not advised.

>> No.19425208

>>19425179
If something really dumb happens, I'd rather have dollars than a car I need to sell in order to get dollars.

>> No.19425211

>>19425166
don't fall for the meme that stocks must go back to their ATH.
What if they sell of their assets?

>> No.19425227

>>19425211
Just look at the graphs for something like MGM though - yeah they fell off the cliff in March and they were declining before then, but do you really think they won't claw their way back up to March-like levels over the summer? I'd be surprised if they don't after watching so many people swarm public places this week

>> No.19425230

>>19425061
Holding a broad array of residential/mortgage riets, and a smaller amount in some commercial holdings like IVR and TRTX. What are normally a pure dividend equities have the potential to be a growth play as well. It is actually very rare for any type of riet to go bankrupt, but the risk is certainly there. An alternate strategy might just to go with a riet etf like Vanguard's VNQ and similar.

>> No.19425231
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19425231

>>19425208
try this question on >>>/o/

>> No.19425240

>>19424402
they are insanely expensive

>> No.19425246

>>19424973
market makers can see stop losses.
They intentionally (and legally) manipulate the market to trip your stop losses and then ride it back up.
You're going to get sucker punched at such a tight stop loss.

>> No.19425247
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19425247

>weather good for launch
HOLY SHIT TESLA STOCK IS GONNA MOON

>> No.19425248

>>19425207
>Debt is a really great tool for many people right now
How so? I have zero debt and a good amount of cash, should I try to find my way into some debt? I don't really need a car though

>> No.19425254

>>19425230
*reit, phonetics throw me on that one.

>> No.19425288

>>19425108
Then how the hell does risk management work? Isnt the whole point my stop loss should be set low enough to account for crabbing and variability and only trigger when it reaches my pain threshold?

>> No.19425298
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>>19425248
If you don't need anything or don't think you'll need/want to buy anything big in the next 3-5 years, probably don't bother. It's a good way to spend dollars from the future with their purchasing power today. It effectively dulls the pain of inflation and can help you obtain more earnings potential and income sooner. It's a very powerful tool, but it should be used very wisely. Education is another really good thing to spend on right now if you can. Otherwise i would say hold your cash tight for the moment.

>> No.19425308

>>19425288
I think he means specifically for XOM. Oil has the potential to go down again before going back up so having a tight stop loss might just mean you lose all your shares and have to buy them back

>> No.19425343

fuck it
A A A A A A A I M A G I N E
Imagine having an Olympic track and field gf who is modest and homely aside from her sport and gets more nervous about the Olympic tracksuits being too skimpy and exposing than about the actual athletics.
But she also has a slight problem where if she jumps or vaults while running really fast she tends to pee herself a little when she hits the ground so even though she holds back as hard as she can and it's tiny and not visible to spectators and cameras, after every meet she's in a hurry to get to the car worrying someone will notice the pee spot between her legs
And because she's in a hurry she changes her shorts in your passenger seat while you drive home and if she actually has to pee but didn't want to risk someone in the bathroom noticing the wet spot she just pees in a cup in the middle of changing and wipes herself with some napkins in your glove box and is embarrassed about it even just around you and doesn't understand why you like it anyways the point I'm really making here is that now is an excellent time to purchase some shares of the oil and natural gas leveraged ETF traded as GUSH!
thanks for reading

>> No.19425352
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19425352

>>19425247
Uuuuuuuuh

>> No.19425377

monetize the current chimpout. Buy TGT on Monday when the CCI curve goes below -100

>> No.19425398

>>19425352
Is the US incapable of building rockets without germans? Is the reusability meme really that worth it?

>> No.19425407

>>19424316
is investing at 1.5 leverage a good idea if I'm only investing in blue chips and etfs? With 1.5 leverage i would only get a margin call if the underlying dropped 66%. SPYs drawdown in 08 was about 45%

>> No.19425409

>>19425194
More so we've been told a lot about what could happen, we just don't know if it will. Even Powell makes that point. But, if it does, it'll take longer than two months to happen, though we're already seeing companies committing to layoffs, bankruptcies, and high unemployment.

>>19425227
See >>19424738. You could DCA to mitigate short term risk due to uncertainty and keep an eye on how the reopening impacts casino traffic and revenues not just in the US, but globally.

>> No.19425421

>>19425398
Its a flashy meme with big potential application

>> No.19425422

>>19425179
Those 70s cars are worth that much because of the parts.

t. Shit heap collector

>> No.19425424

>>19425308
Ty anon. I can see you cannot use the same risk management model on every stock. I think your case for oil can be used for any stock but shouldnt this be incorporated in the stop loss level? If my stop loss activates then i only lost 1% of my portfolio and i can consider going back in.

>> No.19425429

>>19425030
That’s some good piggy right there

>> No.19425431

>>19425421
>>19425398
>not just throwing your boosters worth millions into the ocean after a single use is a meme and stupid
guize wat

>> No.19425462

>>19425422
True. If I was able and willing to chop up some old cars I could turn $3500 into $10,000 but it might take a couple years

>> No.19425465

will my TSLA puts be effected by the launch today?

>> No.19425480

>>19425424
I just think now isn't really the time to employ tried-and-true methodology to trading, things are completely bizarro world nonsense and will probably stay that way at least for a couple years

>> No.19425482

XOM has really good books and we are a long way from oil reliance.
I’m long on them. Their dividend yield is crazy right now and their history of payments and increases is also very good

>> No.19425493

>>19425465
Nothing happened on wednesday
So its a50 50

>> No.19425497

>>19425343
Olympic athletes are some of the biggest sluts ever (not a bad thing, I just mean they like to fuck around a lot like any healthy adult does). The olympics is a facade for all of these chad and stacy athletes to have one big multicultural orgy.

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>>19425431
I don't think you appreciate the divine opulence of the USA.

>> No.19425531

>>19425514
Second.

>> No.19425542

Everything is gonna crash save yourself anon

>> No.19425550

bearish for monday

>> No.19425555

>>19425497
I know, why do you think I specified she was modest and demure if not to contrast with the exhibitionist bisexuals you normally find? If you're going to tripfag please try to be more insightful

>> No.19425558

>>19425514
based webm, too bad this is only an idealized version of america, and not the real thing

>> No.19425576
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19425576

Does SSL seem like a decent play for oil & energy? There is a shortage of Diesel in South Africa and SSL will supply as they start opening their refineries next week

>> No.19425577

What if this thing goes like that guy in his steam rocket and we watch it just arc back to the earth.

>> No.19425595

>>19425482
Yeah I bought some XOM in early April, not much since I'm a poorfag, but a little at least. I'm willing to wait for next spring for the boost to finish if needed, just safe stable gains

>> No.19425599

>>19425246
Proof required
That just sounds silly, regular volatility is enough to get really tight stops triggered, and most other stops are likely set at “support and resistance” levels. Big brains wouldn’t need any BTS info on where retail has their stops.

>>19425377
>when the CCI curve goes below -100
?

>>19424441
Has anyone actually played this game?
>>19424391
Based but hosiery and undercunny from the back is still fuggin based.
>>19424336
*explosions internally*
>>19425343
This was a really good fantasy until you ruined it.
>>19425207
I’m not sure about the anatomy and the handrail here but I love it.
Blessed 2d lately.

>> No.19425604

>>19425577
I mean they have already launched this rocket a few times with the same pod on it, just without any people in it, so we know it works.

>> No.19425613

>>19425462
Idk about all that. This hobby is all one big circle jerk of guys selling shitheaps and shit heap parts to each other so they can afford to buy their own particular shit heap parts. It’s a disease.

>> No.19425626

>>19425599
What, you don't have faith in GUSH or something?

>> No.19425643

>>19425613
It's definitely a disease but at least it's not motorcycles

There's a cool old Plymouth near me I've had my eye on but I kinda want to keep my cash reserves high

>> No.19425651
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19425651

>>19425576
Sasol is solid af.

As soon as I got more ammo and groceries for the lockdown I bought 1000 shares around $2.10.

It was volatile af during march and april so you would see huge swings.

I'm up 3k+ so far. This past month it stays pretty strong even when the market is red and quickly recovers on the after hours.

>> No.19425659

Do African-Americans contribute more than take? Wondering if we'd be able to afford universal healthcare if the country had different demographics.

>> No.19425668

>>19425604
Yeah I know I'm just talking about how surreal it would be for a failure of any sort.

I watched those people burn up in kindergarten because there was a teacher onboard.

>> No.19425679

>>19425651
Being poor, how many SSL shares should I buy this week? also curious about CNK

>> No.19425680
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>>19425659
Yeah. They give more crime and AIDS than take stereos from our cars.

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>>19425659
Blacks are essential for the economy.

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19425684

lunar mission when?

>> No.19425689

>>19425659
Net drain of 700k or so per person.

>> No.19425693

>>19425659
If you get rid of them and hispanics things would be radically different.

>> No.19425709

The Spacex guy communicating with the astronauts sounds like such a phenomenal cuck

>> No.19425711

>>19425668
there is an escape system, like the pod has it's own smaller rocket that kicks in and sends it away and then engages parachutes, I guess it could happen if the whole thing very suddenly explodes though.

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>>19425659
There's a reason there's never been a successful nation run by blacks. They only care about the short term.

>> No.19425726

>>19424348
Unless those 2 fags get blown to bits

>> No.19425729
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19425729

elon musk finna be slaw

>> No.19425738

Imagine if this shit blows up on launch

>> No.19425746

>>19425738
I hope not. My TSLA puts would get assigned and I'd likely get margin called.

>> No.19425748

>>19425711
I'm aware. I know the chances of catastrophic failure are almost zero at this point. It's still just amazing to me that humanity has gotten to this point regarding fucking space travel this quickly.

>> No.19425756

>>19425721
Cognitive styles aren’t in stuck in DNA. There’re a product of society/choices.
Be very careful when playing with genome, whoever the fuck you are.

>> No.19425766

>>19425746
wtf are you talking about

>> No.19425770

Derik Chauvin was a ken stereotype. Out of the 20 styles.
Full ego is meant to be destroyed, and now he’ll be sent in a black prison.

>> No.19425795

>>19425766
TSLA 06/05/2020 735.00 P
I don't have the money to cover getting assigned.

>> No.19425797

Wtf just happened to that camera... Did they have it just sitting on the beach?

>> No.19425798

>>19424316
>psilocybin weekend adventures edition
Fug I wish
Nice FE OC

>> No.19425813

>>19425659
we would be able to afford universal healthcare if Americans were more healthy.
Stop drinking soda every day, start eating healthy, get outside and exercise, etc.

>> No.19425820
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19425820

1 minute till launch.

>> No.19425824
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19425824

SpaceX launch successful = my TSLA calls will be bank on Monday.

>> No.19425826

Am I better off putting all my money in 1 index fund (VOO, SPY, VT, VTI, etc.) instead of spreading it around different index funds based on different things (large cap growth, value)? Just read that I’m basically paying a premium to hold these other funds versus the benchmark

>> No.19425827

I just hope tech bubble burst again
since FAANG are just script kiddies

>> No.19425835

>>19425824
God tier hentaifu

>> No.19425837

>>19425826
Spread it around. You can even put 50% on a specific sector that you like, such as VUG or 10-15% on a 3x leveraged one like TQQQ. Yes TQQQ has a negative theta and goes to 0 over time but it's heavily tech reliant and well, if you don't think there is a tech bubble.. then go for it.

>> No.19425842

>>19425431
I consider reusability to be a meme due to the failure of the shuttle program. Hell, the russians built a better one and promptly discontinued it since their older rockets were cheaper to use.

>> No.19425843

We launched!

>> No.19425858

>>19425842
SpaceX has already been making money off their reusable rockets though, the shuttle engines had to be refurbished after landing in the ocean after every launch, the SpaceX rockets need much less work to relaunch.

>> No.19425862

>>19425813
And beware of bacterias, the invisible enemy probably responsible of 80% of diseases, including cancers.
The COVID was a meta element, meant to teach people this simple truth. Asians already use it because they’re numerous/compacted, but it was more like a blessing for future society than anything else.

>> No.19425869

oh fuck i'm financially ruined

>> No.19425870

successful launch means massive green day on noonday. based as fuck.

>> No.19425873
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>>19425837
I started investing about 3 months ago. Finally settled into VOO, VUG, MGK, FDN, QQQ, and SPXL (not enthused about it being leveraged though desu).

>> No.19425875
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19425875

ELON! ELON! ELON! ELON! ELON! ELON!

>> No.19425886

BASED ELON

>> No.19425890

Elon is a house hold name and will now be in the history books. Tech is LITERALLY all that matters.

>> No.19425893
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19425893

SpaceX isn't a publicly traded company

>> No.19425897

>>19425893
that's why you buy Tesla as a proxy

>> No.19425899

>>19425893

your mom is publicly traded though

>> No.19425900

>>19425680
Based

>>19425738
I’d buy the dip hard

>>19425826
One good solid index and REIT and you’d be fine.

>> No.19425902

yes my tesla stocks will reach 900

>> No.19425908

>>19425873
>>19425837
>>19425826
They're all so fucking expensive. I'd love to have a solid portfolio but that feels like a lot of cash to drop all at once

>> No.19425910

>>19425862
can bacteria really cause cancer?
I thought bacteria were bigger than cells or something like that

>>19425893
you can buy alphabet

>> No.19425923

and it landed perfectly. bobos blown the fuck out

>> No.19425929

god I fucking love anime tiddies

>> No.19425933

>>19425893
YOU JUST KNOW
Also...they will be ;)

>> No.19425942
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>>19425873
It's okay to be wary of leveraged ETFs. VOO and VUG are solid. If you're the passive type of investor, ignore the dips and stop trying to time the market and just dump a portion of your paycheck into those ETFs every month. You'll still see equal or better returns to the S&P granted the tech sector keeps doing well over time.

>>19425908
Yes they are expensive. But they're very stable and beat the average market over time since they're usually tech heavy (25%+ of basket in FAANG, and Microsoft).. if you firmly believe in tech not blowing up anytime soon, just buy 1 or 2 at a time.

>> No.19425964

Will the spacex launch pump tsla stock like crazy? I only have 1 share fuck

>> No.19425965

>>19425869
lmao

>> No.19425976

>>19425964
ur gonna make big money lol

>> No.19425978

>>19425942
Hasn't FAANG had a hard time lately? I think tech is safe for a few years but there's just no fucking actual value behind the names

>> No.19425984

>>19425964
yes, i sold half my position on friday's close

>> No.19425986

>>19425964
It should pump everything

But set your trailing stops

>> No.19426027

>>19425986
Its priced in

>> No.19426031

>>19425908
I can almost guarantee I make less money and have a lower net worth than you. Contribute steadily like Warren B. himself.

>>19425942
That’s the thing, right now I’m just building my position in index funds, so after that’s all stored away I can make moves on individual companies. Spent the past three months buying and selling on RH, reading this board and Reddit religiously. Lots of laughs, great info if you can sift through the shit

>> No.19426038

>boomer boeing
Makes bombs disguised as passenger aircraft
>zoomer Tesla
SAVING HUMANITY

>> No.19426042

>>19425407
sell deep itm put instead
no margin interest required

>> No.19426045

>>19425964
Set a limit sell if you're scared of corrections on late Monday. I mean, 10+ million people just watched the successful launch.

>>19425978
Not really, they've rebounded pretty hard. If you're concerned about FAANG you should look into the actual basket of the ETFs you're buying, then make your decision. SPY, VOO, VTI are pretty solid all around though. They still have tech heavy baskets since well, that's what's driving the S&P 500 lately.

>> No.19426047

>>19425978
Amazon, Netflix and Facebook have done well; not sure on the other two

>> No.19426048

>>19426027
>>19425986
>>19425984
>>19425964
Should I go ahead and buy a single TSLA share? Is there even a real a chance of it tanking?

>> No.19426057

I see a ton of conspiracy tards saying it's all CGI and asking why the first stage landing cut off lol, it uses a satellite feed for live footage, of course that signal is going to cut out when you have a huge ass rocket fly over the ship.

>> No.19426058

>>19426027
No it's not since the other one blew up on Thursday and this one's first try was delayed.

>> No.19426060

do you guys think Disney+ can compete against Netflix and Amazon video?

>> No.19426063

Fuck I sold all my DFEN yesterday. Not gonna make it in time for the SpaceX pump

>> No.19426064

>>19426048
I wouldn't exactly buy monday morning

>> No.19426070
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19426070

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

>> No.19426071

>>19426048
You are basically getting in on bitcoin in 2014, except its backed by a literal god

>> No.19426077

>>19426064
Why?? It's at $842 right now, I bet it will be over $900 next week

>> No.19426078

>>19425858
>shuttle engines had to be refurbished after landing in the ocean
I'm assuming you're talking about the solid rocket boosters?

>> No.19426080

>>19426048
Honestly 50 50
But it did flash crash and poomped hard friday so

>> No.19426085

>>19426048
You could buy fractional shares too

>> No.19426086

>>19425910
There’s a lot of things we still ignore about the invisible world. Bacterias, spores, amibes, ect... Test it if you want. Live surrounded by garbage and see what happens.
Antibiotics and physiological water and 70% of the efficient therapies used in hospitals. 25% more for surgeries (removing massively infected parts in the case of cancers).
Metastasis are probably just powerful germs developing fine in living bodies.
Chemotherapies are mostly very strong antibiotic therapies.

>> No.19426088

>>19426063
Not sure why it would.

Wouldn’t SpaceX threaten to steal business from LMT, NOC, BA, and the rest?

>> No.19426095

>>19426078
yeah, though the shuttle engines themselves had to be refurbished each time as well, the shuttles really were barely reusable.

>> No.19426100

>>19426085
I can't since I'm on Robinhood :(

>> No.19426110

>>19426100
robinhood just started offering fractional shares though?

>> No.19426111

>>19426086
>Chemotherapies are mostly very strong antibiotic therapies.
Not even close

>> No.19426112

>>19426100
You can do fractional shares on RH

>> No.19426122

>>19426110
>>19426100
Me too, I use cashapp for fractional shares and RobinHood for the whole ones

>> No.19426123

FUCK I FORGOT TO BUY CALLS ON SPCE FRIDAY HOW BAD DID I FUCK UP

>> No.19426132

>>19426100
Buy in dollars instead of shares

>> No.19426137

>>19426122
>>19426112
>>19426110
You have to apply for it and then get approved, it seems to be a new thing

Anyone looked into ROKT?

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19426148

>>19426112
Not everyone yet

>> No.19426149

>>19426132
How? When I click "buy" all it gives me is "number of shares" "market price" and "estimated cost" with no way to change that

>> No.19426155

>>19426095
It really was a giant money sink.

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19426162

Can anyone help out a brainlet?

I just placed a market buy order for TSLA, the money is being transferred to my Robinhood accouunt

how does this work? the market buy is "queued", but what if the price of TSLA pumps to $1,000 at opening or something? will my buy order just not go through?

>> No.19426188

>>19426162
you shouldn't do a market buy when the market is closed
no no no no naughty mr froggy

>> No.19426211

>>19426162
You're buying at whatever the price is when your trade gets executed. Maybe you're first in line, maybe you're last in line. Could be +700, could be -100 then -600 after execution.

>> No.19426222

>>19426088
I think the spaceX will reignite interest in space age, so all aerospace companies will pump

>> No.19426226

>>19426162
It will go through unless you don't have the cash to back it
To limit the price if the order - and I know this is complex - choose limit order and enter the max you're willing to pay for it

>> No.19426233

>>19426162
You're going to buy it at whatever the price is for TSLA at 9:30 Monday.

>> No.19426241

>>19425576
Based SSL. Expecting some pumps this week

>> No.19426254

>>19426162
Market orders will adjust to the market price based on your broker's ""good faith""
They shouldn't deviate much from the price they informed you, but it can do, and it's legal for them to fuck you over.
If you'd have rather the order to not go through if there was a change of price, you should have placed a limit order.
You can should still be able to cancel it tho.

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19426274

>>19426188
>>19426211
>>19426226

oops! well hopefully the amount I'm transferring will cover the costs, I want my TSLA

>> No.19426277

I've been seeing more SEC fees on my trades recently, usually $.04 each. I never saw that until last week, what gives?

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19426278

>>19426162
BRUH

WHAT ARE YOU DOING....

you put in a market order when the market is closed and you don't know what the price will be on Monday?

I would have thought that this is you being super ballsy, but the fact that you don't even know how it works just tells me that you don't know wtf you are doing...

>> No.19426287
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19426287

>all those people directly associating space x with Tesla
>hyping an already overpriced stock
Damn

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19426294

>>19426077
tsla stock is going to moon like crazy pre market and during market open, best bet is to buy shares as soon as pre market opens above the current asking price or you'll be looking at 860 when it the market opens

>> No.19426295

>>19426111
What is the basis of a threatening micro-organism? To duplicate more/faster than your immune system can destroy it.
Hence chemotherapies mostly use molecules to block mitosis, betting on the whole body strength/resilience.
I guess that virus and cancers are more useful names/concepts because nobody want to spent a shitload of antibiotics to heal people unable to be clean/be hygienic (real deep concept, even for rich people (mostly ignoring how the invisible world work)).

>> No.19426299

>>19426278
>>19426233
What's the chance it jumps up and then back down again to the current level? It's never hit $1000 but after this it might

>>19426241
Should I dump into SSL on Monday and sell on Friday?

>> No.19426315

>>19426277
ETF expenses?

>> No.19426316

>>19426274
if you RH tells you that you bought it for $999 and then it dumps to $850 Monday morning, you'll be feeling a lot less smug
;^)

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>>19426278
Yeah it's admittedly very stupid on my part but I don't think TSLA will be more than $1,000+ at market opening... and even if it is I don't care that much

>> No.19426341

>>19426316
I plan on holding TSLA for a long time, I'm no trader

SpaceX putting a manned rocket into space shows me that Musk is the real deal. That's fucking incredible.

>> No.19426349

>>19426295
Schizophrenia is about this... accepting in a weird way that something living can invade your body, hence the mirrored mind infected by thoughts.
The invisible world is deep and dangerous.

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>>19424316
>psilocybin weekend

Thats crazy.. i was debating if it was gunna be a psilocybin weekend or a xanax weekend.. my local bar opened up to where i was able to get coked out and play pool all night... really helps with my worries about my open short position on nat gas over the weekend

>> No.19426352
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>>19424557
Change the name options for contracts.

You're buying a contract (or several) for the right to own or sell 100 shares or more, of a company.
The initial payment, is the value of the contract, the value will get covered as your prediction becomes true "the strike price" once the value is covered (you're in the money) everything else is profit.
at this point you can buy 100 shares for less than the market asking price or sell the contract for a profit

Anon is right that spoon feeding you won't do much better for you and you're very likely to turn in to one of those redditor degenerate faggots chasing huge bets with money they don't have and losing your shit in the process.

You're better off actually studying options and you'll be in the money more often than not, I just gave you a push in the right direction.

Options are contracts with a timer on it, they're not stocks.
if your calculations (predictions) are wrong before the strike price (the contract time) you will lose money and the contract will be voided because no one will buy your shit contract since they can buy actual stocks cheaper than your contract.

I am actually learning my self but the topic to me has become so amazing that I am balls deep learning, so far I have 3 successful option trades 1 got barely above the initial investment, 1 when we'll above the strike price and I have 1 going right now that so far is doing very well, I can actually sell for a profit but I am holding for more hoping I don't get burned.

Once I sell this contract I should have enough to take a huge gamble and hope for the rocket to the moon, I want 10k in my account, I am almost at 2 from barely 7 hundred initial investment.

Any one can recommend a degenerate option bet of 2k for the moon shot?

perhaps a casino, oil tanker or any other under valued company about to rise up again?
So far party city is paying my initial ticket, party city is good to me

>> No.19426360

>>19426294
So like 8am Monday get on there and buy a share?

>> No.19426378

>>19426350
Alprazolam is not really useful compared to tramadol.

>> No.19426381

>>19426299
>Should I dump into SSL on Monday and sell on Friday?
Why would you let random strangers on the internet dictate what you do with your money?

>> No.19426394

>>19426381
>Why would you ask for financial advice, specifically stock advice, on the finance board in the stock market thread??
What are you, retarded or something?

>> No.19426396 [DELETED] 

>>19426315
Nope. First one happened when I edited a limit sell order last Tuesday and the other one happened when I bought some calls yesterday. The fees for options are $.65/contract but I'm trying to figure out what those few extra cents are. Here was the disclaimer that came w/ the trades:
>Exch Process Fee: This fee offsets costs incurred by Schwab for the exchange of securities - including those relating to assessments on broker-dealers by an exchange or other SRO - for equity,
option, or other covered security sell transactions and option security buy transactions

>> No.19426399

>>19426299
>What's the chance it jumps up and then back down again to the current level?
I don't know about TSLA since I'm too poor to trade it, but everything I've just glanced at reliably has a high open then free-falls until 10:30 and then either recovers or levels off throughout the day.
That said, you're required to have at least $25,000 in equity if you day-trade, so don't day-trade unless you can afford being classified as one.

>> No.19426416

>>19426399
Where are you reading that stuff? I definitely don't want to day trade, I just want to get a share or two before it gets above $1000 and keeps going. I almost bought a share a year or two ago when it was like $300 and I'm kicking myself.

>> No.19426419

>>19426315
Nope. First one happened when I edited a limit sell order last Tuesday and the other one happened when I bought some calls yesterday. The fees for options are $.65/contract but I'm trying to figure out what those few extra cents are. Here was the disclaimer that came w/ the trades:
>Exch Process Fee: This fee offsets costs incurred by Schwab for the exchange of securities - including those relating to assessments on broker-dealers by an exchange or other SRO - for equity, option, or other covered security sell transactions and option security buy transactions

>> No.19426431

>>19426287
How much would Tesla dump if shares were released for SpaceX?

>> No.19426432

Is there any point in holding MRO in addition to my XOM? Instead of just focusing on one? I think it is a good buy now MRO dipped below 5.5.
Also why are SSL shilled so hard in this thread all of a sudden?

>> No.19426444

>>19426431
A lot

>> No.19426446

puts on TSLA at monday open, also considering calls on SQQQ,

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>>19426038
I'm buying Boeing puts next week.

>> No.19426458

>>19426444
Do you think they ever will release shares? I'd buy that up. Tesla is still an amazing long term investment though, at least until major car companies get on board with EV.

>>19426432
I have some MRO and was thinking about adding some XOM. I'm willing to bet they'll both get back to late-2019 levels over the summer which would be a big % increase

>> No.19426459

>>19426060
I think there’s enough market share that they don’t have to. People often have all three. Linear tv is what needs to be worried. I don’t own any Disney btw

>> No.19426462

>>19426416
>Where are you reading that stuff?
https://robinhood.com/us/en/support/articles/pattern-day-trading
I don't use RH, but it looks like they have a safety feature that prevents you from being labelled a day trader by blocking a fourth day trade in a five day period.
Do what >>19426226 said and make limit orders instead.

>> No.19426486

>>19426341
actual docking of the manned craft with the ISS is still on course for 5/31. meaning it hasn't happened yet. you goys are getting way too smug. right now there's two 50 year old men floating in a tin can out in space. could all be fake too.

>> No.19426502

>>19426462
Oh I meant the part about the high open then free fall

>> No.19426507

>>19426458
If you're making that bet then you should add CPE to your list.

>> No.19426510

>>19426188
>>19426162
This. But the good news is that if you’re long it really doesn’t matter

>> No.19426527

>>19426295
>Hence chemotherapies mostly use molecules to block mitosis, betting on the whole body strength/resilience.
Chemotherapies take advantage of increased metabolism in cancer cells. The payload is just toxic and kills everything. Nothing specifically antibiotic about it at all.

>> No.19426553

>>19426507
Damn that's a temptingly low price. The 5 year chart doesn't look too great though. I guess it's a small company but do they really have the ability to get all the way through to pre-corona prices?

>> No.19426564

>>19424633
>>19424686
>>19425869
Lmao, is this bait or did you actually buy TSLA puts with the belief the Demo-2 flight wouldn't be a success? The Falcon 9 is one of the most reliable rockets on the planet and they have been flying Dragon in the cargo configuration for years.

>> No.19426566

>>19424351
ZNGA although it just spiked like 10% yesterday, may want to wait or scale in. I love playing this stock in options and hodling

>> No.19426567

>>19426502
I dunno. All the stocks I try to buy tend to have a pattern of opening high, going AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA for an hour, or bottoming out and going OOOOOOOOOOOO for the rest of the day.
I try to exploit it to get the most out of my cost basis.

>> No.19426579

>>19426567
Post your recs for Monday, tryna invest some of my unemployment dough

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>>19426486
>>19425869

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>>19424403
TQQQ:TMF is up 30% YTD. TQQQ:TMF is objectively the easiest big brain long-term play

>> No.19426627

>>19426579
Find something you know a little about and research the stock's buy/sell pattern if you're not holding for long term or its financials and earnings if you are.
I'm buying GAIN because I just got my dividends so buying now means the next ones will be qualified.

>> No.19426649

>>19426527
Yeah I learnt that too.

>> No.19426651

>>19426527
He’s being so imprecise with his language that it becomes meaningless.

You may as well say that since bacteria are composed of matter, that all antibiotics are effectively antimatter.

>> No.19426665

>>19426378
I don't touch opiates... i have severe addiction problem with opiates.. i started taking norcos when I was 12 then started snorting oxycontin at 14 then started shooting up heroin at 16.. go to the point where I was shooting up a lot of heroin and cocaine until I was 19 then I cleaned up and won't touch opiates again... Benzos help me because my anxiety goes through the roof and I don't get addicted to it because i'll binge it for a few days then not take any for like a week...

So yeah.. no opiates for me.. it'll destroy my life

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Did Elon just save america?

>> No.19426692

>>19426665
>opiates
>norcos
>oxycontin
>heroin
>benzos
That explains quite a lot actually

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comfy

>> No.19426746

>>19426676
Elon is truly the greatest African-American that we have
I need to fucc some martian bitches before I get too old to perform

>> No.19426762

>>19426692
yeah.. i used to shoot up a gram or two of heroin a day and about a gram or two of coke a day (speed balls) and at the same time I would take about 5 xanax bars of day k-pins... valiums... then i smoked a lot of crack.... basically when I do something I go all the fucking way.. because i'm not one to half ass shit.. when i was getting clean I hallucinated for 2 weeks and thought I was going to die... haven't touched opiates since.. that was 10 years ago

>> No.19426774

>>19426274
Just cancel the order and make a limit order

>> No.19426818

>>19426762
Imagine bragging about how hardcore you are for talking lots of addictive substances on 4chan
Really pitiful, as expected of tripfags

>> No.19426837

>>19426589
What's the tool used to graph these porfolio performances?

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BIG RED DILDOS

>> No.19426859

the successful launch sealed it, rally next week bros

>> No.19426877

>>19426299
Well I would say SSL is a long hold, but if you wanna make a short term profit then yes, buy Monday then sell on Friday. Just my opinion. Made 1.5k from them and I came super late at $4-$5

>> No.19426878

>>19426818
yeah.. but i don't do it anymore... now my focus is on stocks..... the amount of energy i put into my drugs is now put into something else... imagine that.... I told the guy that got me into stocks that he has no idea what he got me started on.. about a year later I had a corporation that would buy and sell debt.... he was like wtf?!?! and i was like.. told you.. once I get started on something I don't stop... just the way I am.. but if you want to judge someone about their past that was strong enough to get over it.. then thats on you... imo.. the people to worry about are the ones that can't get over it and struggle with it... it takes a lot to get off all that shit and imo it was a huge accomplishment and turning point in my life to where I can now focus on more meaningful things......... but you may never understand.. because you haven't even had sex yet

>> No.19426902

>>19426837
portfoliovisualizer.com/

>> No.19426906

>>19426877
How long though? All the oil companies were already falling before corona, I don't think they'll do much more than get back up to that trend line. Better to gamble on oil short term or just buy a share of TSLA?

>> No.19426911

>>19426762
This is a prime example of why you are living in poverty, a felon, and talked about behind your back by everyone who interacts with you in your day to day no life. Filtered

>> No.19426916

>>19426352
>Any one can recommend a degenerate option bet of 2k for the moon shot?
>perhaps a casino, oil tanker or any other under valued company about to rise up again?
>So far party city is paying my initial ticket, party city is good to me
DFEN? Maybe the successful SpaceX launch captures people’s attention and throw money in Boeing, Lockheed, Raytheon, etc.. since SpaceX is a publicly traded

>> No.19426919

>>19425873
>VOO
Holdings
Microsoft Corp.
Apple Inc.
Amazon.com Inc.
Facebook Inc. Class A
Alphabet Inc. Class A
Alphabet Inc. Class C
Johnson & Johnson

>VUG
Microsoft Corp.
Apple Inc.
Amazon.com Inc.
Facebook Inc. Class A
Alphabet Inc. Class A
Alphabet Inc. Class C
Visa Inc. Class A
Mastercard Inc. Class A
Home Depot Inc.
Netflix Inc.
Adobe Inc.
Comcast Corp. Class A

So well done, you bought the same fund, with the same shit

>> No.19426931

>>19426911
i'm not living in poverty............... not sure why you think that..............

>> No.19426934

>>19426352
Just gamble on Russian table tennis

>> No.19426948

>>19426432
Seems like SSL is beginning to break upwards. Also, their refineries are opening up this week and they refused to be bought off in the midst of COVID, they mean business.

>> No.19426954

>>19426878
>>19426762
Nice blog but shut the fuck up. You are already a broke retard, you have nothing to lose by further drug use.

>> No.19426967

>>19426746
How old is too old to perform?

>> No.19426984

>>19426919
>Alphabet Inc. Class A
>Alphabet Inc. Class C
What's the difference between different stonk classes?

>> No.19426988

>>19426954
uumm... ok... but like.. opinion... really doesn't fucking matter to me because my life is pretty fucking great... just because you have a small $500 robinhood portfolio posting here doesn't mean everyone else is as poor as you

>> No.19426997

>>19426919
Growth, dawg

>> No.19427006

>>19426984
Generally non-A stocks don't give you voting rights and they have preference for being reimbursed if the company goes bankrupt iirc

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>replying to tripfags
shameful display

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>>19426693

>> No.19427023

>>19426967
I don't know yet
so far, I've still got it ;)

>> No.19427024

>>19427008
They're not called /biz/tards for nothing

>> No.19427028

>MAGA. loves. the black people
Based first black president Mr. Cheeto
>>19426919
All the large caps are very similar like that, and will preform very similarly. but I’m torn on this. For one, you didn’t include percentage, and two, According to your list, VOO doesn’t have MA and V, and VUG doesn’t have JNJ. Those are three of my absolute favorite stocks, so that’s worrisome. I’d have to go check out SCHX, SCHG, MGK, VIG, etc. maybe even SCHD.

>> No.19427029

>>19426553
They have twice the current liabilities to current assets so they will need to get some financing

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>>19426878
As much as I hate tripfags, drug addiction is fucked beyond belief. A genuine well done from me for getting away from it, but you remain a tripfag and for that reason alone I must respectfully ask that you kill yourself.

>> No.19427041

what do you all think of VW?

4 PE and I think there could be a real growth story here. They're investing huge amounts in electrification, only real competitor to Tesla right now. the ID.3 could be widely succesful if it delivers, similar range to Tesla model 3 while being under 30k.

if VW can pull off electrification well, they cease being a battered down value story with prospects of declining growth, and turn into a growth story in a potentially high margin, high tech industry

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>>19426906
Well SSL is not all oil. They deal with materials and chemicals as well. You can wait for a breakout before buying just to feel safe, but it was has been gaining daily with no large swings despite in March/April when things were crazy

>> No.19427044

>>19426997
I'm all for growth, but I was pointing out that the 2 'different' ETF's are basically the same, and that goes for a lot of the Vanguard ETF's.

>> No.19427069

>>19427042
Considering all of that it almost seems like a better short term bet to put the $842 for a TSLA share into something with more growth potential like SSL

>> No.19427075

>>19426997
Take a look at VGT

>> No.19427079

>>19426877
>>19426906
Oil and gas companies aswell as the commodity itself may face some headwinds and renewables come into place..

California now makes it mandatory that any houses that are built in 2020 will have solar roofs.. moving away from fossil fuels. Other states will start to follow.

https://news.energysage.com/an-overview-of-the-california-solar-mandate/

If you can run all the appliances in your house and charge your car with solar and a battery.. why try to move to oil? just for a quick trade? Sure.. Oil is used for other things.. but even those things will start to become less dependent on oil...... Oil boom has come and went imo......

Agriculture... renewable energy.. tech... drugs.... i think thats the future... but thats just my opinion

>> No.19427099

>>19427044
Am I losing a lot of money by owning both?

>> No.19427101

>>19426948
Yea but are trying to get finance for all their debt by selling their shit. How then can they return to their previous level?. It sounds like a deathrattle

>> No.19427110

>>19427079
I agree that oil is essentially done but it's not dead. My prediction is that it will come back up to the trend line it was following before corona, which would still be a pretty heavy increase from right now

>> No.19427115

>>19427036
it really is.. it was really hard to get off since i spent my whole teenage years on drugs.. my brain is kinda fucked.. only thing that helps me get balanced again is micro dosing mushrooms.... but there were times when I was like 14 that I would eat mushrooms everyday for a week.... i mean.. when I was younger I didn't know the dangers of drugs.. i didn't know you could get addicted to opiates when I was 12 and eating norcos like candy.. it took me awhile to figure out the full blown addiction part.. because to me.. i was just getting high and didn't think of the consequences

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>>19426564
it's not bait, i really am that retarded....or maybe i'm not. like i said, the real test is the manned craft that's now floating up there and won't doc until tomorrow, not the falcon 9 rocket which we already know can launch and land. just watch it again, the 2 astronauts were going at super sonic speeds and did not even show any sign of that force being applied to them. have you ever been on a fucking airplane, or are you not old enough to fly on your own? upon take off, even on a simple plane, your body gets against the seat, you feel the pressure, the force. none of that was apparent with these two fake ACTORS inside the capsule, which was at the very tip of the rocket.

100% fake. everything elon does is fake as fuck if you paid attention.

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How are the Swedes reacting to having the highest covid deaths per capita, was 0.4% GDP growth worth it?

>> No.19427128

>>19427079
>even those things will start to become less dependent on oil...... Oil boom has come and went imo......
Bullish. $100/bbl oil next year.

>> No.19427130

>>19427099
You shouldn't be losing any money, you're just doubly invested in some of those companies. Just pay attention to stuff like Home Depot and Adobe

>> No.19427149

>>19427079
Don't forget about Commiefornia's carbon credit economy that the renewable companies are going to make big bucks off of.

>> No.19427150

>>19427110
I just did a research essay with peer reviewed articles and it's a bit crazy how many countries have started to move to renewables.... even in recent news.. some gas companies are actually going with solar for their operations.... it's kind of like when MO invested in JUUL because they knew vaping was going to grow and didn't want to get left out..

>> No.19427169

>>19427099
No you don't lose money simply because you have very similar ETFs, but you're doubling up what you've invested in them. I am assuming your other ETF's are about 80% the same also... so while you think you're diversified, you're not at all. If that's the case, why not just hold VOO or VTI?

As an example of a slightly more diversified pair of ETF's, I have VTI and VB
>VTI is SP500 large-cap and
>VB is small-cap
You wont find 2 of the same businesses in them (afaik)

You could also consider VNQ, a 'realestate ETF' but 'realestate' means a large portion of phone towers and other industrial infrastructure, not houses etc.

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>>19427117
Stop losing money bobo it's taking a toll on your mental health.

>> No.19427173

>>19427168
>>19427168
>>19427168

>>19427168
>>19427168
>>19427168
>>19427168

>>19427168
>>19427168
>>19427168

>>19427168
>>19427168
>>19427168

new

>>19427168
>>19427168
>>19427168
>>19427168

>>19427168
>>19427168
>>19427168

>> No.19427184

>>19427075
Literally links another Apple/Microsoft-heavy ETF

>> No.19427192

>>19427149
theres a lot of worries behind the move.. such as if everyone is paying less on electric bill then where will the money come from to pay to maintain grid.... and also will too much power overwhelm the grid..... theres a lot of things to think about but as more countries and companies start going with solar there will be competition which should lower price of building renewable infrastructure to the point it gets cheaper than oil and gas to the point where people will start going with renewables... non-renewables I believe are still a cheaper route.. but the pendulum swings..

>> No.19427263

>>19427117
Crew Dragon is just Cargo Dragon with seats and better life support, it's been extensively tested before in the resupply missions to the ISS. This part of the flight is one of the least dangerous, they're no longer riding on hundreds of tons of fuel and even with engine failure they'll safely deorbit.
>2 astronauts were going at super sonic speeds and did not even show any sign of that force being applied to them
They were pulling over two Gs but you wouldn't notice a difference because their seats are orientated in a way where they are on their backs relative to the force. It's like a Gravitron ride.

I'm not going to respond to your schizo conspiracy theory but you should watch NASA live stream during times where nothing is really going on but they are still streaming what is happening in the ISS for just dozens of viewers. They wouldn't bother doing that if it wasn't real, it would cost them millions.

>> No.19427553

>>19424659
why would div portfolios be worthless?

>> No.19427715

>>19424659
JNJ, MMM, and KO are basically in there as hedge against volatility so yeah it’s kinda the same. Same goes for VZ and SO. They’re just stable boring companies. STOR and XOM are my nite volatile / risky plays but needed to hit that 5% target.
Why are dividend portfolios pointless?