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>> No.19308695

Dividends, Premium. Cash in hand > paper gains. Never sell. Just accumulate.

>> No.19308737
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>>19308695
i'm up 2% on one stonk and down 1% on another. i want to sell now to get out green. but they both have good dividends. i should just buy and hodl. but i fear the next crash. fuck everything

>> No.19308741

>>19308695
Accumulate Premium, just dividends. Never in hand > cash gains .

>> No.19308764

Who /thetagang/ here?

>> No.19308768

Tomorrow is going to be a fucking blood bath. Prepare to get fucked bull niggers!

>> No.19308780

>>19308768
Anon.. markets aren't open tomorrow. Stop being a faggot

>> No.19308788

Is sex worth having to put up with a girls shit for?

>> No.19308790

>>19308768
>tomorrow
>memorial day
bears are absolute fucking retards who are so ignorant of markets that they don't even know when they are open

>> No.19308794

I may pull my 8000 and stick it in EVFM. They got FDA approval and the stock is still under 10. The high is 23.00 Sides pretty sure a big pharma will bag them cause birth control is a big money maker. If nothing else they'd get bought just so big pharma could kill the product.

>> No.19308795

>>19308768
Nothing is happening tomorrow, markets are closed until Tuesday.

>> No.19308797

>>19308737
At least you're not HODling sea cats that are down 30%.

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>>19308768

>> No.19308811

>>19308788
Unless she is a good partner which is rare no.

>> No.19308812
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be honest, which one of you fell for the tanker meme and how much did you lose?

>> No.19308824
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>>19308788
who cares

>> No.19308830
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>>19308797
i guess
the prudent investor

>> No.19308832

Am I getting numb to MSM or have things gotten quiet?

>> No.19308833
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>>19308654
>>19302827

give me your fucking china videos dammit, i know you people hate china just as much as i do. i want to know my enemy as much as possible before WWIII happens. give me your favorites /smg/ don't pretend like you don't have an archive of this sorta shit in your bookmarks.

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*slurrrrrrrrrrrrp*

>> No.19308841

>>19308812
I bought 5 DHT to join in on the fun. I haven't sold them and probably won't. They'll sit in my account as a constant reminder of my poor decisions.

>> No.19308857

>>19308788
Nah

>> No.19308858

Markets open for canucks.
Any way to take advantage?

>> No.19308863
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>>19308834
*siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipppp*

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>>19308834
you seem like a knowledgeable dude
why is everyone here trading options on SPY and not ES futures?

>> No.19308872

>>19308788
you should have sex at least a couple of times in your life with a couple of different women. just so you know first hand that masturbation/toys/porn will always be superior.

>> No.19308881

>>19308812
I lost about $800 on tankers, going to be staying away from them and oil/energy stuff for a while.

>> No.19308882

>>19308812
I fell for it - but up 3% since I didn't FOMO. Holding to see what happens for the bants at this point.

>> No.19308885

>>19308812
Sold 15 $7 Puts on NAT for like $1.67/share. Kept DCA 3 at a time. Sold my shares at like $4.98 So I lost 0.35 cents times 1500 shares, $525.

Could of been worse. In hindsight I wish I had sold calls on the shares to try and recoup a bit of the losses before selling them.

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>>19308863

>> No.19308912

>>19308833
Why would I want to look at things that make me hateful?

>> No.19308915

Or maybe do a farming play. Buy MSFT (or FB,etc) on a dip then sell when they rebounded. Repeat this as it happens. But those pesky wash sale rules would kick in. Fuck.. Farming play is least risk but take longer though. V.s just holding till the stock hit your target. (if it does)

>> No.19308951

>>19308912
because they hate you, anon. and they will prey on your ignorance. why do you think they make people "disappear" and keep them "untrackable"? they don't want anyone to know the heinous shit they're up to.

>> No.19308955

>>19308915
>Repeat this as it happens.
wow you must be so smart, why doesn't everyone do this

>> No.19308966
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>>19308951

>> No.19308989
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>tfw we're going to have first nuclear bomb test since 1992
how this will affect stonks?

>> No.19309006

>>19308955
most people are afraid of any kind of risk in life, also most people are dumb as fuck. most people live paycheck to paycheck and can't even afford the minimum 25k to avoid the PDT rule. even successful people like engineers often just put money blindly into their 401k's and forget about it, let the money managers do... whatever it is they do. they don't take the time to learn and get a financial education (which you can do for free on the internet). do you really not know this?

>> No.19309024

>>19308812
I'm in about $1500 and have lost about 4%. Not selling yet.

>> No.19309029

>>19308824
Name plz

>> No.19309047

>>19309029
https://www.instagram.com/adrianafenice/?hl=en

>> No.19309052

>>19308915
Wash sales only apply to losses. If you sold at gains you would not have wash sales

>> No.19309068

>>19309006
let me know when you beat s&p with this genius dip buying and selling strategy!

>> No.19309157
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i am 100% into Canadian REITs, why should I be worried when people are very eager to get back to shops/offices and Trudeau will be supporting businesses up to with wage subsidies and interest-free loans. REITs financials still solid. I am not worried about debt repayments in August or whatever.
Is there something else I'm forgetting to consider?

>> No.19309266

>>19309068
check the ID's idiot, im not the OP anon. i day trade technicals profitably. my main point is that to make a lot of money in life you have to take risks, and most people are either unwilling due to fear or are too stupid/ignorant to understand finance. you could apply the same logic to starting a small business, you have to take a risk that things might not work out and you could lose money, for the possibility of the great reward of getting rich. you gather information and you create strategies that give you an "edge" so you have the best probability of success you can manage, but nothing is 100% safe. hell even getting a job which is trading money for security isn't safe because you can be laid off.

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OH GOD I SEE A BLACK MAN OUTSIDE MY WINDOW I AM SCARED

>> No.19309384
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19309384

pssssst hey kid wanna buy some cheap calls?

>> No.19309389

>>19308812
I got in early and bailed when people here FOMO'd so I had some modest gains. Everyone discussing tankers early on said it was a short profit window so it really highlighted how little DD people do.

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>>19308737
protip: name the tickers if you're talking about your stocks, if anon buys them it's only good for you

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Roast me.

>> No.19309464

i just want to know if the common consensus tuesday red or green?

>> No.19309501

>>19309464
Green

>> No.19309519

>>19309464
Purple

>> No.19309522

>>19309501
so it's gonna tank 10% and crab to -5%, got it.

>> No.19309540

>>19309464
Yellow

>> No.19309551
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>>19309501
this is based

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>>19309384
i dunno looks a little sketch.
price to book is also 12.9x and they're floating themselves on jewish tricks

>> No.19309635

>>19309562
fundamentals don't matter in clown market. every time this bad boy crosses the 21ema it rips higher

>> No.19309691
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>>19308833

>> No.19309696

>>19309266
Why do you feel the need to lie on internet?

>> No.19309712
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19309712

Thoughts on BABA? I'm considering buying some calls tomorrow before people rush in to buy the dip.

>> No.19309724

>>19308768
>>19308654
Fucking retarded bears don't even know when the markets will open.

>> No.19309727

>>19309551
What is it based on?

>> No.19309748

>>19309712
There are much better volatile stocks to bet on and much better knives to catch.

>> No.19309762

>>19309712
Might be risky since I don't see China hate going away anytime soon since the government there is doubling down on stupid.

>> No.19309774

>>19309266
Small businesses almost never make money even when they stay afloat, however the risk is virtually nonexistent as well beside opportunity cost. Only sociopaths and outright scum can make it properly by going this way, and only in the very few countries that make that even a potential option at all (USA, a handful of EU countries). Risk-wise, it will definitely be a lot worse post-corona for a few years or more as banks try to shield themselves from the problems they're causing.
Stock market though has an excellent risk/reward profile for someone with the right mindset.

>> No.19309806

>>19309712
Unironically always do the opposite of what robinhood users do.

>> No.19309828

The short term goal is not beating anyone or anything. I'm well content to let my long term holdings just plug along till the day comes I need them. No, the whole point of this little short term project is to beef up my emergency fund, do it before I hit age 40 in 3 years, and not lose my 8000 ammo money in the process. Cause then all I'd accomplish is backsliding. To some earning 12,000 (or saving it) in 3 years is child's play but when you make shit and funding other investments you don't have much left over to work with.

>> No.19309856

QQQ is so undervalued right now. Buying even more TQQQ in thuesday, kek.

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>>19309806
But Robinhood users have been winning hand over fist buying the top 20 market cap stocks that make up the indexes. The same small handful of companies that are almost exclusively responsible for the rally we've seen over the past couple months.

If your argument is that the Robinhood zoomers are going to get fucked, then your argument is that the broad market indexes are going to crash.

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>>19309635
for sure, might throw $50 at it.
prolly gonna be all in on FXI puts tho

>> No.19309933

>>19309828
I'm going for the trifecta. Something that a lot of people don't do anymore. A fat 401k, a well seeded brokerage and a decent wad in the bank. Well my case quads cause I've got a pension as well. Having all 4 before I turn 40 would be sweet.

>> No.19309950

>>19309774
i mean yeah that's kinda my point. a lot of people just look at the stock market as the same as las vegas gambling, so talking about small businesses can make a lot more sense to the layman which is why i mentioned it. what's the statistic (pre-covid)? something like half fail in the first year and like 90+% fail in the first 5 years, something like that? so it's risky clearly, but you have to take that risk if you want to be rich. hell even going through jobs to become upper middle class require risk, taking out loans to go to med school or law school etc. you're risking potentially not being smart enough or having enough motivation/work ethic to be able to handle the courses, and then the risks involved with actually landing a job and keeping it and moving up the career ladder, having the right personality so people like you, etc.

i like the stock market because it just cuts out all of the middle men. you get directly to value. price goes up and it goes down, if you take a position in the correct direction and get out at the right time, you profit. if you don't you lose money. you can create a risk profile directly based on price movements and the ATR and things like that, and the odds can be much higher than just playing blackjack. risk management is always the key, everything else is just trying to give you better odds than flipping a coin to go long/short. there's no brown nosing (at least for retail, like, not including insider trading illegal shit), no one you have to impress, no one you need permission from, just you and the price/volume over time, and the fundamentals. cuts out a lot of the bullshit and is the best job in the world if you know what you're doing.

>>19309696
lol, stay poor i guess.

>> No.19309980

>>19309464
I’m betting on green

>> No.19310013
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>>19308794
I literally watched this stock the whole day and said it wont moon after hours. And it did. My finger was over the "All in" button and I could have made it but. I figured it was too good to be true. But it was true. I deserve to be poor.

>> No.19310027

>>19308768
you and op are fucking retarded ass bears

>> No.19310031
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>>19308872
Based

>> No.19310054

>>19308881
>energy
energy is fine, tankers are just a long play. bagholders now know that.

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>>19309691
>they take off the mask

they get what they deserve, i guess. liberal politicians and deep staters make me want to vomit. really gotta ask yourself what motivates these people.

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>>19309727
on true story that will happen

>> No.19310078

>>19308872
Why would it be better? You can't dominate and choke a toy

>> No.19310090

>>19310072

“””progressives””” are quite literally, perpetually behind the curve. It’s these same people saying we should be sheltering and wearing masks all summer now.

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>>19308872
It’s true, then again most girls are pretty fucking boring and not kinky enough for me.

>> No.19310160

Quick rundown on capital gains tax? What gives the feds the right to tax my gains that were made from my already taxed income?

>> No.19310192

>>19308812
I'm with a 100$ loss on the active ones.
Have 30$ profits on the ones I traded during the contago.

Still believe the ones I got before earnings are grossly undervalued. Not selling but I am DCAing them with success due to their high volatility.

I admit I FOMOed FRO hoping for a second wave. And I was wrong on the second rollover contract going negative.

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CLSN phase 3 FDA approval coming in July for possible Liver Cancer treatment. Stock could hit 100$

>> No.19310207

im 32 and have no gf or friend.
I have money but very depressed.

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>>19310077
d-d-do you s-suppose she does h-h-hand h-h-h-holding????

>> No.19310224

>>19309712
They may get delisted.
There will be no "dip" if they are!

>> No.19310231

Are futures closed until Tue?

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>>19309464
Crab

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>>19309900
Underrated, what is your counter to this permabulls? Do you really think the dumb money is just going to continue winning? That's not how markets work, they fuck over as many people as possible as much as possible. We never saw any kind of capitulation, just dip buying.

>> No.19310283

>>19310231
In the US? Yes. But all other markets are open.

>> No.19310297

>>19310078
i mean, if you found a way to do that with absolutely no strings attached and immediately after you coom you get to leave and not speak to the bitch again, then more power to you. for most people this is completely impractical and would require a lot of effort and luck. with porn you can get anything you desire on demand for free. learn to use your imagination. i don't need sex toys but they've advanced the technology quite a bit in modern times if you're interested. you can just selfishly satisfy yourself and once you're done, go do whatever else you want. it's entirely risk free with zero judgment.

>>19310090
it's weird, when you look at it through the lens of "they are telling the truth" (regarding "we want to do what is best for the US and help its citizens prosper"), a lot of what they do is confusing. why would they actively want people to get sick? why do they want muslim refugees and illegal immigrants to flood into western democracies? why do they actively not only support, but encourage destructive behavior and mental illness (BLM, trannies, etc)? why do they want to weaken the US's military and shame it into becoming defunct, lessening the US's influence on the rest of the world and helping evil powers grow in political influence like China and Russia?

as soon as you switch to looking at it through the lens of "they're lying" (they actually want to destroy America), it all makes sense. all the negative things they say and do, while smiling and saying it's for the greater good, all of a sudden they make sense when you consider what a ruling political class would do if it wanted to destroy the US as a 1st world power. after that it's hard to not see it repeat over and over and over again in the media and political spheres. the normie democrats though I view as mostly just useful idiots, the real evil are the political powers and MSM.

>> No.19310298

>>19309266
>>19309950

Pretty based. As a young person you're obligated to take risks with high upside potential. You just need to use good DD and judgement to eliminate some of the shitty plays, then just keep hammering at the good plays. Not all good plays work out, not all shitty plays fail. For example, I think the tanker stuff has good fundamentals and good upside potential vs. risk, but it didn't work out. Big whoop, onto the next one. I also think Zoom has garbage fundamentals, but look how well it's doing. Just gotta update your data-set that you're working from, your bayesian thinking process and say "shit I was wrong here's how I won't make the same mistake." You have to stay unemotional too, and not let bad losses on good plays effect you.

No middleman is fantastic. It's just you vs the data. Google gives you the financials. Youtube lets you meet the management. Twitter gives you word on the street. You can become an faux expert on a sector or commodity from the comfort of your home, and you can put your money where your mouth is and multiply your cash. No bullshit, just you, data, and money out. I don't like the high IQ shit 4chan likes to jerk off about but if you're legitimately high IQ you can prove it on the market.

>> No.19310331

>>19310254
were there as many retail investors in 2008 as there are now, is there just a much larger pool of dumb money now?

>> No.19310362

>>19310207
I can be your friend if you can give me your money

>> No.19310380

Retards, all of ya. The areas where people are being more cautious are the urban areas with exposure to international travel, the areas with heavy public transportation or just high population density.

This is exactly as it should be. And the areas that people want to open up faster are the places that people are less dense and less cold, the areas that should be opening up.

You’re in such a hurry to say “me side good, you side bad”. Stop picking sides and start paying attention.

>> No.19310400

I make shit so having a years salary just there in the bank will be sweet. Knowing I could just say fuck it all and not work for a whole year yet pay everything.. Kinda calming actually. Who knows the calming effects may stimulate hair growth..

>> No.19310426

>>19308737
If you feel this way, choose an acceptable loss of money, divide it equal by all of your positions, and place a stop loss market order.
Why fear a crash when you can sleep easy every night with a non-emotional stop loss and the confidence to continue accumulating both positions and dividends?

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>>19310331

>> No.19310454

And yes, I would expect idiots to do well. Idiots and geniuses do well in the stock market, midwits tend to get hurt. (I say this fully aware that I’m a midwit).

There’s still so much bearishness, so much money on the sidelines. So many people saying this is a bear market rally that will crash any minute now. These are all contrarian indicators that are bullish. Meanwhile There’s others headlines saying that hedge funds have never had this much long exposure. They hedge with puts but the “smart money” seems to be buying.

>> No.19310470

bullish >>>/wsg/3474859

>> No.19310484

>>19309900
The argument is that the robbinhood herd is usually a good indicator of FOMO. They are bar none the most likely crowd to accumulate AFTER institutions are done/rumor has run and news is coming. You can probably trade off their accumulation spikes and make a living salary from that alone at next to no risk. You shouldn't look at slow accumulation but at accumulation spikes for this (slow accumulation is either brand recognition or cult, not associated with any meaningful signal). In other words, if you had access to robbinhood data plus a real broker's data, looking at the difference in the distribution of both datasets should give you an amazing signal for entry and exit.

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>>19310298
i play MTG as well and i find a lot of similarities between the two in all honesty. the big one is that a lot of people look for the "holy grail" but in reality, lots of different strategies are perfectly viable, from simple ones to complex ones, in different markets and different circumstances. some people scalp, some people swing trade, some people hodl for 30 years. some people use MA's, some people use bollinger bands, some people use some crazy advanced AI machine learning algorithm. some people make huge gambles a la WSB, some people do DRiP and just try to live off dividends. some people DCA and some people use stop losses. some people like more FA-related strats that rely on things like events/catalysts (most common is probably earnings since they happen all the time), some prefer naked charts just looking at chart patterns and volume, some prefer indicators (of which there are literally thousands of different ones).

ALL OF THEM CAN WORK WITH PROPER RISK MANAGEMENT. that's the key. similar to how you can play mono red obosh, yorion lukka fires, gruul stompy, azorious control, or any number of other decks from tier 1 to tier 3 which are all perfectly capable of getting to mythic rank if you put in the time on MTGA. you don't have to be right 100% of the time to be profitable, that's another mental block a lot of people never get over. like a 51% win rate with a 1:1 risk:reward is technically profitable in the long run, even though you just win a little more than you lose. 1:2 you only need to win more than 1 out of 3 times to be profitable, just 34% or better, you're still making money. the key at the end of the day will always be probability, statistics, and risk management. it's not about winning 100% of the time it's about, over a large sample size, how much are you winning when you win, how much are you losing when you lose, and what is your win rate%? everything else is just trying to improve your "edge", give you better odds of winning.

>> No.19310556

>>19310533
What’s the Relentless Rats strategy of stock market investing?

>> No.19310586
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STONKS!
MARS!
LOL

>> No.19310587

>>3474859
>>19310470
wait a sec is that a real ad? (paid for by donald trump)

>> No.19310593

>tfw was finally gonna get to living in the database database
>just say wow wow wow wow
>chinese plague cancels all production of everything good.

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Sell me the bearish thesis, Bobos.

>muh unemployment!
Inflationary. People are being paid not too work
>lost productivity!
Again, inflationary.
>consumer confidence will be depressed!
You really expect zoomers, boomers, & shitskins to plan ahead, and not just live in the now like the retarded niggers they are? They have money in their pockets, they're going to spend it
>it's not real growth, it's just money printing!!!
Doesn't matter, green line still goes up, and who's going to sell if the dollar is being debased?
>b-but muh long term consequences!!1
Markets are myopic, when have they every cared about long term consequences?

>> No.19310633

>>19310596
>You really expect zoomers, boomers, & shitskins to plan ahead, and not just live in the now like the retarded niggers they are? They have money in their pockets, they're going to spend it

it's sad how true this is.

>> No.19310643

>>19310533
You forget that the point is not to get over 0% profit, but rather to get over some benchmark like SPY or QQQ. 51% on 1:1 doesn't do this, far from it. This also kills plenty of strategies.

>> No.19310652

>>19310596
>dollar is being debased?
Wait... that’s what happened in the 70’s and the stock market soared but then crashed...

>> No.19310706

>>19310331
Many platforms did not have commission free trading in 2008, plus the lack of technology made it harder for retail investors to get a foot in the game.

>> No.19310720

>>19310652
Did the fed inject trillions of dollars last time?

>> No.19310727

>>19310533
True.
This "I have to be right all the time or something is wrong." is one of the huge mental blockades people have.
I even see it with myself from time to time.

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>>19310596
i don't have to sell you anything you fucking permabull faggot. keep buying. go ahead. you absolute moron. i wish we could all take a little time-jump field trip to tues so i can see you get rekt.

ONE SENTENCE:
stocks will sell off due to profit-taking from those who bought at the march low.

>> No.19310795

>>19310720
Nixon took us off the gold standard last time, I believe.

>> No.19310798

>>19310706
I said it once, and I’ll say it again. Living out of the market is going to be the new thing. The typical boomer checking/savings accounts are busted.

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>>19310706
I remember trying to sign up
For ScottTrade and all the bullshit involved. Nowadays it’s all pretty much auto filled out and no reason to mail. Have an account under 10 minutes compared to a few days.

>> No.19310833

>>19310727
Ego is the number one impediment to success imo. If you are the type of person who thinks he’s never wrong, you’re going to have a bad time when you play in a system that is inherently always right.

You can see this in all the “muh clown market” and “muh fake market” posters.

>> No.19310844

Does anyone even trade stocks anymore?

>> No.19310854

>>19310833
I was wrong and sold when I should have held.
I'm back in and I'm holding long now.

>> No.19310856

>>19310643
it depends. the interesting thing about stocks and risk profiles is that you can make it however you want it. if a person can make tons of trades every day with that 51% 1:1 compared to you just buying the SPY at the beginning of the year and holding it until the end, that's gonna likely add up to more over time if it remains consistent. like, if you make 1 trade a year and double your money, but i make 1% a day for 200 trading days, i made much less than you on each trade but all of the trades would add up to 200% gains instead of your 100% gains. im mostly just trying to give illustrative and somewhat extreme examples on purpose here.

i figure if you're bringing up benchmarks you're eventually going to try to bring up hedge funds too and miss the point of scale and what role volume plays in all of this. buffet is correct though with the idea that if you know fuck-all about finance and don't want to ever know anything about it, you're better off just DCA'ing the S&P 500 for your whole life and just maxing out your 401k whenever possible. im just saying you can do better, much better, as an individual investor, if you trade actively and properly educate yourself and know how to test ideas out and measure their effectiveness and understand why.

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>>19310254
Nobody cares about retail investors. They are a fly in a lion pride.
The big boys are institutions, the rest hardly matters.
>>19310436
That could be 2 shares of AMD, 100 shares of HTZ or 500 shares of AMZN though.
Are there any stats for amount of stocks or total amount of money in these positions?

>> No.19310883

>>19310596
The Green Line will not go up faster than your Cost of Living

>>19310633
>dubs
Checked and keked

>>19310652
The stock market will rise as long as the Fed buys enough debt and imposes negative nominal rates

>>19310436
Big if true

>>19310090
Based and redpilled

>>19309762
This is 1984, bro, (((they))) read that book as manual of operations, broski. We war w Eurasia and Pacifica soon, brahmin.

>> No.19310899

EXIT ALL POSITIONS

>> No.19310906

>>19310706
it's hard to describe just how big of a deal the commission-free shit is to us retail day traders, it's more or less what allowed me to quit my day job because of how much more lucrative scalping became.

>> No.19310925

>>19310899
based dubs

>> No.19310950

watch $REFR

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/REFR

>> No.19310951

>>19310856
Nobody is making 1% a day, and even fewer are making 1% a day from high frequency manual trading. There's this thing called exhaustion. I don't even know why I'm still replying, you clearly have never traded anything in your life.

>> No.19310956

>>19310844
The only thing I actively trade are futures, stocks are more like a few times a year thing. There's honestly no point in trading stocks when you have futures if of course you don't see a PERFECT setup, like I did with HLT before earnings which paid nicely

>> No.19310996

>>19310596
Not necessarily bearish but if you look at volume, breadth, and liquidity, if sellers ever do show up it will probably get ugly fast.

>> No.19311020

>>19310861
retail investors are literally the driving force behind weed stocks during the 2018 rushes.
when even the taxi driver or your grandma is talkng to you about weed stocks, that's how you know how big of a bandwagon something is.
The amount of clueless bagholders that it has is probably the only reason that shit like CGC manages to keep the stock price and market cap it has despite its horrid financials (irrc, CGC has not made a profit yet even pre-covid19)

>> No.19311039

I plan to hang on to my divvy stocks and funds till they put my ass in the ground. Which if I'm lucky won't be for 63 more years... I'll give my heirs a real good screwing in my will. Cause I'll have built my wealth up the hard way so why should they get a leg up on life?. I'll make them work for it.. I'll make it so my divvy stocks will remain in the family so to speak. I'll be damned if all my hard work just gets pissed away.. I can see it now; spoiled brats selling my T-babies first chance they get.. Makes me sick..

>> No.19311042

>>19310951
it's an average, if you make 5% one day and break even the rest of the week that's still 1% a day on average, for example. sorry you failed and now try to bring everyone else down to try to validate your failure.

i agree, i don't know why im bothering to still reply to someone who clearly has a net loss of money in the market and blames others for their shortcomings. so i won't.

>> No.19311061

>>19311042
You're a special kind of retarded anon.

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>>19310950
>reddit style stock posting
>stocktwits
These tourists really need to fuck off

>> No.19311074

>>19310533
>some people make huge gambles a la WSB
>ALL OF THEM CAN WORK WITH PROPER RISK MANAGEMENT

That’s oxymoronic though, the YOLO gambles entail extreme risk.

>>19310861
Holey smokes! Under appreciated devil girl, everyone was all about the other gabs but I like the sweet earnest devil a lot.

Every new user initiates a new position with that free stock, and if they’re a referral, they also generate a new position for the friend who referred them.

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>>19308863
>that filename
topkek

>> No.19311084

>>19311042
you don't, nobody does, even jimmie, makes 1% gain on their capital every trading day
so SHUT the fuc

>> No.19311087

>>19310596
Not a single bear market in history has ended with peak optimism and delusion.

>> No.19311118

>>19311074
>That’s oxymoronic though, the YOLO gambles entail extreme risk.

yes, but also extreme reward. and clearly it has worked for some crazy people out there. you're right though it's an extreme risk which i would never recommend to anyone, but if it works the results are life changing. i would also assume (or hope, at least) that a person willing to take such a huge risk would have some kind of powerful information to back up their choice to take that risk, instead of just doing it blindly. if you had some insider information for example it probably wouldn't be as risky as first believed.

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>>19311020
But weed stocks are not the market.
The market is MSFT, AMZN, FB, BABA and GOOG and many more.
And most RH accounts are probably sub 5k.

Just saying.
>>19311074
>Every new user initiates a new position with that free stock, and if they’re a referral, they also generate a new position for the friend who referred them.
Oh yeah, I forgot. RH gives free stocks

>> No.19311147

>>19308768
I presume you mean European markets, and that all the previous replies to you are the real retards?
If so, yes, yes they will.

>> No.19311153

>>19310380
>This is exactly as it should be. And the areas that people want to open up faster are the places that people are less dense and less cold, the areas that should be opening up.
other than california but that state is ran by utter retards

>> No.19311163

>>19311062
That shill has been here longer than you have, evidently.

>>19311087
This is not peak optimism at all are you fucking kidding? EVERYONE thinks it’s a damn bear market rally and the rug is about to be pulled out. Look at all the FUD on twitter and even here. That’s actually what’s feeding my bullishness. People think this is impossible, that Wil E Coyote is about to look down and realize he’s already run off the cliff.

Posts like yours, that make such ridiculous assumptions, very bullish. I’ve got too much cash on the sidelines again.

>> No.19311191

>>19311141
>And most RH accounts are probably sub 5k.
According to the CEO they are under 2k.

>> No.19311193

>>19311084
>source: dude just trust me bro

>> No.19311200

>>19311118
Look man, using quantitative reasoning, using math, and doing tedious research on companies ALL THE TIME to get sub %100 gains is boring nerd shit. BIG MEN make BIG MOVES and make BIG MONEY off their superior MASCULINE intuition.

>> No.19311205

>>19311163
Only god can help you end your suffering. You are getting your sentiment research of the current market from twitter or /smg/. Good luck with your investments if you don't even know how to do some propper market sentiment research.

>> No.19311214

>>19308768
>He says for the 10th weekend in a row

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>>19311191

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going down 0.10% every day type of week bros

>> No.19311242

>>19311191
Tbf. I also have two empty broker accounts.
All these corpses drag down the average quite a bit I guess

>> No.19311258

>>19311240
Ooooh I bet ULTA will kill earnings.

>> No.19311265

>>19311200
hey, as long as you're profitable, that's all that really matters. most people can't even manage that. just realize that you can also lose BIG MONEY too. capital preservation should always be the #1 goal before anything else.

>> No.19311268

Are there any good stock market youtubers?

>> No.19311286

>>19311153
California is opening up. You’re confused and that’s understandable. You wouldn’t want LA and SF to open up, because LA’s density and SF’s public transport and density. But for example Bakersfield just tried to open up and had some incidence of increased infections so they had to pull back. This is all pretty reasonable as far as I can tell.

People are too sensitive to media blips. We’re opening up, and we’re braced for the worst. The potential for upside surprises might actually be higher than down side surprises.

Have you heard a single soul discuss the possibility of there not being a second spike, or of it being a muted spike?

>>19311205
My god... the implications...
Have you ever implied such a high level of implications?

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>>19311062
>most people aren't multi site posters
>/smg/ has any redeeming quality which deserves to be preserved
>quality of information depends on hoster
>not a newfag

>> No.19311313

>>19311200
big men take action but it's not based off of intuition alone. That's the key difference between big men and big fools.
you have big fool.

>> No.19311316

>>19311240
GET IN THE ZONE
AUTOZONE

>> No.19311319

>>19309464
Green, so I think red.

>> No.19311320

>>19311240
Oh fuggg Costco hasn’t reported yet?
Is that correct?

>> No.19311335

>>19311240
thursday will be interesting

>> No.19311340

>>19310906
Looking back it really wasn't a whole lot. For that meager commission imagine getting ~100 AMZN, ~25 MSFT + AAPL, and all those other cheap tech stocks that were going to be huge.

>> No.19311360

>>19310160
Because you're retarded and don't understand how taxes work.

>> No.19311371

>>19311319
That’s why I’m green, the posting yesterday was sooooo pessimistic.
All that posting about bear between turkey and Syria, China and honkkong, rugpull retail etc.

>> No.19311383

I'm just stopping by to thank our Veterans, and wish everybody a safe and relaxing Memorial Day.

>> No.19311400

>>19310533
I don't play but I love analogies and metaphors.

Reminds me of higher level CSGO when you call the right strat but somebody makes a hero play and headshots your whole team. Do you stop doing that strat for the rest of the game? No, you just adjust for where the guy likes to play, favour his favorite spots with your pre-aims more, try to flash his angle and go in again later. If you're the "leader" of the team you have to manage their emotions too, and not let them get scared or angry and frustrated just because it didn't work out. Otherwise it'll make them play on tilt, like how the market can get you on tilt and cause you to make stupid risky plays.

>> No.19311401

>>19311240
>HEICO
I thought that was a typo at first.

>> No.19311407

>>19311320
this is correct costco hasn't reported yet

>> No.19311409

>>19311383
thanks bro, have a good memorial day and bbq some dogs for me

>> No.19311419

>>19311383
>I'm just stopping by to thank our Veterans, and wish everybody a safe and relaxing Memorial Day.
+1

Based, redpilled, whitepilled, and bluepilled

>> No.19311424

>>19309266
Lol. You don't day trade.
I make good money with dividends because I buy and hold.
Day trades are for Wallstreet cokeheads.
You are neither of those things

>> No.19311428

>>19311383
Don’t thank me, thank my recruiter.

>> No.19311434

I hope RTX dips again so I can add more

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>>19311042
If you could keep 1% a day gain if you started with 1000$ in two years you would have 1'407'000$
If that were possible evreyone would try to get into daytrading

>> No.19311448

>>19311424
>I make good money with dividends
hahahaha amazing joke

>> No.19311467

>>19311424
Daytrading is gambling. Longing is investing. Know the difference.

>> No.19311473

>>19310883
>The Green Line will not go up faster than your Cost of Living
as long as it's strongly trending, leverage would keep you in the (real terms) green

>> No.19311478

any she a boy again, wi man in?

>> No.19311488

>>19311448
If you have lots of money to begin with dividends are very nice you can literally HODL forever and earn a living out of it

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How is this week going to go?

>> No.19311527

>>19310078
> You can't dominate and choke a toy
That’s not sex, though, that’s work.

>> No.19311534

>>19311488
dividends are a meme sorry mate

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>>19311512
up

>> No.19311540

>>19310996
Volume isn't ridiculously low historicity, just low compared to the crash

>> No.19311559

>>19311534
If you have little money (like I do) yeah, but if you are a millionaire dividend stocks are the best

>> No.19311566

>>19311512
Crab till mid June I think. Once the “second wave” fears are gone, we’ll bleed up and get a big bull run. Probably before 4th of July.

It’s all still very “wait and see”

>> No.19311569

>>19311559
amount doesn't matter

>> No.19311573

>>19310207
It’s better that way anon, my ex had a miscarriage broke up with me and went back to her Arab shit hole.

In my grief I called another ex up and in 4 weeks we are having a baby. Thing is though we aren’t together and probably never will be.

Now the ex who had the miscarriage 10 months later is begging to come back to me to give me a child and have me marry her. I haven’t told her about the future baby.

Covid stopped me from visiting her too since flights are closed. In all these relationships have cause nothing but heartache and pay. If I could go back I would just acquire money.

>> No.19311576

>>19311488
hes poor, probably works at burger king, and regular posts on pennystock general so ignore his opinion

>> No.19311580

>>19311163
You're right. This isn't peak optimism. It's peak hope. An important distinction. Conversely, we never reached peak fear, or capitulation.

>>19311540
Market participation is very low.

>> No.19311596

>>19309157
Who knows but there is a real sense here we are in a huge real-estate bubble. People having been saying it for years and immigrants aren’t going to stop moving to Canada anytime soon so I think your safe. However, their some very real downside risk that scares me away.

>> No.19311603

>>19311569
It does, once you have a sufficient amount of money you want to minimize risks there is no point in chasing 30% annual returns when you already have enough to stop working for life, at that point safety is the most important thing

>> No.19311604

>>19310844
i do. options are literally 1% of my portfolio. up 150% in brokerage since april 1st and 250% in my roth in the same time. options is for gambling degenerates who get addicted to the constant flip, to the point that they flip into nothing.

>> No.19311659

>>19311473
>as long as it's strongly trending, leverage would keep you in the (real terms) green
Yeah but that is a dangerous game, my friend. A bit of volatility and you are left with nothing.

>>19311488
Trustafarian Lyfe, hombre! How do you think all those WASPs on Cape Cod do it, caballero?

>>19311467
+

>>19311371
War is good for stocks. More Federal spending...

>> No.19311680

>>19308768
based retard

>> No.19311684

>>19311286
>>19311163
>EVERYONE thinks it’s a damn bear market rally and the rug is about to be pulled out. Look at all the FUD on twitter and even here. That’s actually what’s feeding my bullishness.
>Look at all the FUD on twitter and even here.
>on twitter and even here
Implications or denial. You decide now.

>> No.19311685

>>19310844
Daily, i got 10% gain on that fat Friday dip

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I think Air Canada is going to triple in 5 years, but I already have too much invested in it and the cruise lines.

Can Anyone else recommend some stocks that might have similiar returns I can diverse into with my upcoming bonuses?

>> No.19311742

>>19311701
How about vidya game ETFs? For the new WFH, ready-player-one world of virtual work?

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>>19308768
But unironically, we might be in for some big dumpies.

>> No.19311824

>>19311659
>that is a dangerous game
It really isn't, Kelly criterion places optimal leverage at >2 for a pure equity portfolio, and somewhere around 10x for a equity: bond portfolio

>> No.19311850

>>19311701
oil of course

>> No.19311861

>>19310090
It’s very tricky to determine the right course of action given the numbers, now that we are getting some real numbers. Earlier, there was enough uncertainty in the numbers that lock downs were rational, in case the numbers were really bad. In a nutshell, we had a situation where we were not sure if the IFR (dead per infected) would be 10% or 0.1%, doomfags paniced assuming it would be 10% and nothingburgerfags laughed, assuming it would be 0.1%. It turns out to be 1.2% and suddenly we don’t really know who was right, the doomers or the noburgers. Before we had uncertainty if it was 10% or 0.1%, but learning that either of those numbers were true would have given great certainty of which course of action would be right. Instead we gain certainty of the number, 1.2%, but that just leads to greater uncertainty about what is the right course of action.
Is 1.2% of infected dying a lot or a little? Probably everyone agrees that every needless death is bad, but the question is how bad is 1.2% compared to the economic effects of lock down? People will give very different answers, which is why the situation is now so tricky.
On one hand, if you get infected, you have very good chances of survival. If you are young and healthy your risk of dying is parts of per mille, even if you are old and sick you have something like 80-90% chance of survival (doesn’t sound great but in reality it is just one more thing to give you such odds after 80). So it doesn’t make that much sense to panic and fear the virus anymore (bar learning more about permanent damage in survivors). On the other hand, it is very contagious, so it could easily reach more than half the population quick, meaning though your risk of dying is low, more than a million dead Americans from covid is pretty much a certainty if we end lockdowns.
How do we weigh this? What will a million dead do to the economy, to consumer behaviors etc? What is the moral weight of letting millions die to help stocks?

>> No.19311867

>>19311701
funny. I sold Air Canada at a -3% loss when border reopening with the US was delayed again.
I also FOMO'd into it in the first place (bought in when RSI was around 50, should have just waited longer. Had it go from unrealized losses of $300 then back to $50 and decided I'd rather risk the money into RioCan instead). Commercial real estate doesn't need people going into quarantine for 4 to 5 weeks. The fact that they're not benefiting from Trudeau's wage subsidies is the final nail that scared me off.

If they've managed to miraculously improve that ridiculous cash burn, I might buy back in. I have some money I could take out from CHP that is moving too slow anyways.

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>>19310596
I'll try,

Inflationary itself isn't an argument, unless you're trying to attach it to another idea. Inflation can be both good and bad.

I think it's deflation we're seeing right now See pic.. All currencies are devaluing against USD; essentially USD is deflating, value of the dollar is going up. Unemployment itself is deflationary, people are worried if they'll get their next paycheck, not how they'll spend their money right now. Yes, stimulus checks exist put they're a pittance of money, and I doubt they can keep them coming through till 2021.

Productivity and employment are at the heart of an economy, and if you keep chugging along, hollowed out, things are going to cave in.

Consumer confidence is depressed, and I do think people are going to be saving. Especially millenials and boomers; Boomers got their retirements raped in 08 and now in 2020, and they're retiring ie not working anymore. Their cashflows are reduced, and they're going to live frugally to make sure their retirements aren't cut short. Theres something retarded like 50% with no savings, and 10000 retiring every day. This is not even factoring coronavirus yet. Millenials are supposed to move into the highest spending demographic, but they're utterly broke from student debt and lack of good paying jobs. Pretty much all wage cucks with no excess money to spend. Deflationary.

Deflation on top of record Gov't debt and record consumer and corporate debt = debt is growing bigger while our cash flows are all depressed = insolvency.

about FED liquidity, we're in a solvency crisis that just started. Cash flow matters, not liquidity. If you were in massive debt does lending you more money do anything? insolvency is a lagging indicator, and we're just starting to feel the first drops of rain before the storm. Neiman Marcus, JC Penney, etc. One by one they'll drop, then combined with second wave news we go down for another leg. Also, what happens when FED has to eventually stop printing?

>> No.19311931

Whens the next big drop boys. I'm betting it happens when the Q2 earnings start coming out. So probably late June/early July.

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>>19311867
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH FUTURES BLOOD RED!!!!

>> No.19311951

>>19311908
Excellent post.

>> No.19311992

DATABASE DATABASE

I forgot how much there was about banking and currency generation etc.

DATABASE WOWO WOW

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>>19311931
>Betting against the house

>> No.19312006

Does anyone think we’ll actually have lockdowns this strict for the second and third waves? Supply lines will be too disrupted. The gov will choose plague over famine every time. No one wants mass uprisings by starving quarantined young men

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>>19310596
>>19311908
>They have money in their pockets, they're going to spend it
Except they are not. They are saving it primarily. Or "investing" in dumb money FOMO trades on RH.

>> No.19312027

>>19311512
crab

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>>19311992

>> No.19312057
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>>19311992
If you want another good /biz/ anime try Eizouken

>> No.19312061

>>19312002
>the house
you mean the FED or the Wall Street? because they are betting in different directions

>> No.19312083

>>19312006
I don't think anyone realistically or rationally believes that more quarantines have a high probability of occurring without a drastic change in COVID-19 behavior. If it were ever to reach that point, then I guess doom-posters can finally say "I told you so," but it would be a Pyrrhic victory for them.

>>19312020
That is not long-term spending behavior post-COVID-19. That's stimulus. Very different. Look at the early data coming out of countries that have already opened up. Manufacturing saw a rebound, but consumer sentiment is still shot, and the "social distancing" measures only further limit the profitability of sectors that are already on razor-thin margins as it is.

>>19312029
based

>> No.19312113

>>19312061
None of these two is interested in falling prices.
There will be no more dumps and banks, the gouvernment, the Fed and corporations are interested in a stable market. Because all of them depend on it and are chained together by the system we have.
None of these sides will let the other fall.

>> No.19312136

>>19312020
If anything this confirms what he says. Think hard about the rank of the things listed there by income bracket and who is getting or not getting stimulus. Think about what those things mean in relation to the sudden stimulus injection.

>> No.19312148

>>19312113
Without directly purchasing equities, they may not get a choice in the matter.

>> No.19312153

>>19312057
I watched this on your recommendation a month or two ago. It was pretty good. Thanks!

>> No.19312160
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I am receiving so many emails from companies giving out "free" stuff begging for you to spend money. Regal, Express, JCP. My apartment gave me a bunch of gift cards for local businesses. I bought a sandwich with a gift card and they gave my another free sandwich.

>> No.19312169

>>19310436
What about when Robinhood starts offering fractional shares?

>> No.19312176

>>19310844
I buy and hold.

>> No.19312189

>>19311908
You're conflating the market and the economy, with unchecked printing equity prices will inflate with everything else
>deflation
Kek
Is not happening, will not happen, can be prevented trivially (brrrr)
>Muh unemployment
Already covered. People are being paid not too work, being paid more than they were being payed to work.
>what happens when FED has to eventually stop printing?
Why would they have to stop, especially if we're seeing deflation? (we aren't, but that's your worry)

>> No.19312201
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can't wait for this week!

>> No.19312231
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Do you guys remember the great crash of 1918 and 1920s depression? Neither do I.

>> No.19312240

>>19312148
But surely you realize it is only a matter of months until the Fed, Swiss, and Nip central banks are all purchasing SPY and QQQ?

>> No.19312241

>>19312189
It is already happening, CPI is negative, real rates are going up because of it, and lending markets are gonna be FUCKED unless Powell goes negative to combat it.

>> No.19312268

>>19311701
KOS, CPE and some other energy plays

>> No.19312296
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very bullish for LMT

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>>19311936
yeah bro. I'm totally a bear.
no you retard, I just don't like the risk with airliners when I have a similar ""price memory"" upside potential with real estate.
Why would I keep my money in Air Canada when even Trudeau is hesitant on supporting the money burning pit it is? Real estate is risky but I see a lot more hope in it with the current policies and attitudes.
i wouldn't be bothering with either airliners or REITs if my CERB bux to gamble with came earlier, but I got it long after the fire sale. There's still oil shit like SU on my watch list though. Maybe banks depending on earnings this week.

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>>19309724
Bearcucks are NEETs who doesn't care about date and time. They get their gambling money from mommy.

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>>19312296
Go for RTX man

>> No.19312386

>>19312360
I'm adding more RTX Tuesday. Yeah I'll be paying a little more but hell it's still undervalued as fuck.

>> No.19312399

>>19312296
Fuuuuck yeah

Did Modi ever agree to buy those Sikorskys?

>the chinks are making more enemies
Excellent. They’re probably also not Happy about all the pharma money moving from China to India in the wake of all this bullshit.

>> No.19312412

>>19312360
i own both

>> No.19312425

>>19312399
china just can't stop shooting itself in the foot.

they truly are pathetic

>> No.19312430

>>19312412
Nice barbell approach...

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>>19312386
>>19312412
>>19312430
And it's common knowledge that you cannot fight a war without oil.

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It's going to be a red week this time, right? Please?

>> No.19312512

>>19312502
Green week.

>> No.19312521

>>19312502
bigly green

>> No.19312542

>>19312502
Crab week, bounce between 298 and 292.

>> No.19312545
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QQQnny

>> No.19312548

red week. blood red for china. green for anything military.

>> No.19312549

When do futures open tomorrow? Same time they normally would on Sundays? My life is without purpose if I cannot freak out about each 1 minute candle.

>> No.19312560

>>19312545
based. QQQ gang rise up

>> No.19312569

>>19312545
Based and vulvdaq pilled

>>19312336
HAha yeah imagine being an adult like that haha yeah I’d just kill myself lolololol I’m so glad I’m a much more successful adult than that hahahaha

;_;

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wisdomtree terminated a whole bunch of oil ETCs, and im pretty paranoid they will terminate even more. Im all in on WTI CRUDE OIL EURO HEDGED. How likely it is they terminate even more?

>> No.19312575

>>19312542
296-300 according to my memelines. However the next wave should breakout one side or the other.

>> No.19312582

>>19312189
Take another look at the M2 velocity plot anon posted and rethink your statements.

>>19312231
CV was a trigger. The fire sale in March was caused by: (i) over-levered investors chasing yield in a market environment where they had grown complacent over ease of access to cheap money; and (ii), corporations who had similarly grown accustomed to cheap money and abused it for extensive share repurchases. Deteriorating market conditions helped fuel the liquidations and deleveraging-induced fire sale across assets and began to substantially limit liquidity until the Fed stepped in. The trigger could have been any reason, but the underlying financial mechanisms were the cause. CV is just an excuse at this stage. The Catch 22 being that Fed jawboning resulted in additional corporate debt and attempts at Fed front-running.

>>19312240
Citation needed. The Fed has no need to purchase equities, and they currently can't legally do so. I'm not sure if even the SPV's setup to bypass the Federal Reserve Act would be sufficient without additional Congressional approval. And if it were to happen, it would be hugely concerning, essentially admitting that US corporations could no longer sustain organic growth. Beside, J. Powell has been hinting that Congress needs to increase fiscal stimulus to strengthen the broader economy recovery for the reasons that >>19311908 pointed out, which is another Catch 22 in itself (lending vs cash flow vs solvency).

>>19312241
This.

>> No.19312586

>>19312542
This guy knows.

>> No.19312593

>>19312512
>>19312521
Don't get baited by bobo, if you vouch too much on green we might go red a little. But who wouldn't want discount prices?

>> No.19312594
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>>19312189
Market and economy are detached currently, yes, but they always snap back to normal. It's like the analogy of a guy walking the dog with a big long leash, why's everybody focused on the direction of the dog? That's noise.

Money printing again isn't so simple. USD is the reserve currency and has far more liquidity vs the Euro, Yen, Pound, etc and essentially has a lot more to print before it catches up to the proportions other currencies have been printed at. IE deflation. You can literally look at the performance of other currencies if you don't believe me. And if you're right about inflation, can you explain the yield curve? Bond market doesn't lie.

Are you arguing that the FED will print money forever, and you don't think that's bearish for the overall economy? We're literally following the japanese playbook then, and we can see how that turned out for them. Now that we've brought it up, that Nikkei chart looks mighty familiar, right down to the exact month and dates. I bet in May there was a bunch of japanese dudes just like you lol.

Honestly by all means keep buying man, but you come across as just trying to re-assure yourself that things will recover immediately. Your knowledge about economics is very basic and is literally just memes.

>Don't fight the fed
>brrr
>shitskins and boomers and millenials consooooooom
etc etc etc,

I'm not a bear exactly, I just wanted to give the bear thesis cause you asked. Just wait and see if you don't believe me. I hope you stay solvent though lol

>> No.19312617

>>19312241
Then he has to go more negative, and more negative. Its a death spiral and its better to stop now then later.

>> No.19312662

I seriously hope none of you fucked with the mouse.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/23/nba-in-talks-with-disney-about-resuming-season-at-espn-complex-in-july.html

>> No.19312668
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Long Dollar Milkshake Theory
Short gold
Bitcoin is not even a question, short it.

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>>19311908
>>19312582
>>19312594
Why is it that bears always have well thought out theses that actually make sense, and bulls are nothing but recency bias? What worked to "save" the markets in 08 won't necessarily work now, yet that's all the argument bulls seem to have. Kinda sad really

>> No.19312675

>>19308788
Depends on three factors
1) How hot she is
If she’s ugly, dump the bitch
2) How good the sex is
If she’s a starfish, she better pack her shit
3) How much shit she’s giving you
If she’s keying your car or texting your mom, there’s no amount of loads she can swallow to make up for it

>> No.19312696

>>19312662
Nice. I bought loads of DIS calls last week lol

>> No.19312707

Play of the week may be PG&E ($PCG)

California utility found responsible for those wild fires that fucked shit up. They are supposed to be exiting bankruptcy this week.

Currently at $11, Barclay's has set a price target of $15 and due to their restructuring the stock could rally to $21.

https://www.barrons.com/articles/pge-stock-pcg-is-a-buy-before-exits-bankruptcy-says-barclays-51589563451

I don't have a position yet but will probably be looking to enter.

>> No.19312709

>>19312668
DMT is also bullish for gold, sounds like you don't even understand the theory dude

>> No.19312710

>>19312662
Lmfao Disney is bossing the NBA around?

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>>19312709
I am vouching for gold becoming an illegal asset to hold.

>> No.19312741

>>19312707
They're probably going to cause more fires this summer as there has been very little rain and they haven't gone back to fix any of their infra. That company is such a liability I wouldn't touch it with a 50 yard pole.

>> No.19312784

>>19312669
Being a permabear/permabull limits you, but like >>19312594 said, the markets will snap back to reality at some point. They can't stay detached from the macro environment forever.

>>19312668
>>19312709
Right now, gold is an interesting trade because both sides of the field will be willing to play.

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>>19312737
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.19312807

>>19312662
I bought the dippy when it went sub 100. One of my long term holdings. Put it like this; I've got oh 63 years give or take till I hit 100 and I plan to hold all my divvy stocks that long. Then if I can do it, I'm gonna make it so my heirs can't sell them either. Can you imagine? Working your ass off to own the stocks then watch from the "other side" as your heirs just piss it all away.. Makes you sick don't it..

>> No.19312810

>>19312741
They have to participate in the new California Wildfire Fund which basically insures against those liabilities going forward.

>> No.19312832

Anyone looking to see who benefits from this US action against Huawei?

Tokyo Electron perhaps?

>>19312668
>>19312709
Can I get a qrd on dmt?

>> No.19312836

>>19312737
fucking rats

>> No.19312841

>>19312707
Shill pls fugg off

>>19312737
Redpilled

>>19312741
Kekekek

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>>19312806
that niggas flyin to the virgin islands or some shit if gold bagholding is illegal

>> No.19312858

>>19311701
I can't find Air Canada on RH.

>> No.19312870

>>19312669
>mental gymnastics by paranoid schizophrenics
vs.
>Occam's razor
I wonder who makes more money

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>>19312594
>overall economy
Market =/= Economy

Your position rests on tired schiff/zero hedge arguments that are in reality BULLISH for the market in nominal terms which are BULLISH for the market in REAL terms if you're leveraged

>> No.19312876

>>19312710
Don’t mess with the Mouse

>>19312832
>Anyone looking to see who benefits from this US action against Huawei?
>Tokyo Electron perhaps?
Taiwan?

Anyone got intel on how to play this new Cold War?

>> No.19312879

>>19312841
Then you put up a play faggot or are you here just to leech and not contribute?

>> No.19312897

>>19312461
i swooped up a lot of defense and oil stocks in late march for my new cold war portfolio.

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>>19312875
>Market =/= Economy
Jesus Christ. Take your meds schizo.

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are futures opening today?

>> No.19312963

Kek, I'm gonna be happy when MVIS flies. A critical chippy in MSFT's hololen's is owned and made by them. They're open to being bought. A board member just "retired" (Retired; right... more like given the boot for holding up the deal). Can you imagine the implications? Say FB or Apple swoops in to buy them, they could screw MSFT big time cause they'd own the chip. They could also use said chip in their own devices. Such a situation won't be allowed to stand, MSFT will buy them to control the chip. Then use whatever else the company has as bonus profit makers.

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>>19312929
Nope.

>> No.19312970

>>19312870
>>19312875
>macro fundamentals
vs.
>memes
I wonder which is based in reality and historical precedent.

>> No.19312983

>>19311401
Keep hearing HEICO is a great buy right now.

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>>19312875

You asked for the bear thesis and you got it. Don't get defensive when it's contrary to your position. Your arguments aren't even first order analyses, they're literally memes.

>market=/= economy
>dont fight the fed
>money printer go brrr! lol!
>consooooomers

Honestly, good luck you economic newfag. You're at the big boys table now and it's merciless out here.

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>>19312737
Ahhh jeez dude.. I had this terrible boating accident...

>> No.19313033

>>19309712
XSPA is going to moon on Tuesday, right?

>> No.19313037
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>>19312582
>e-commerce stocks recover because people are locked in their homes
>cruise line and airline stocks still down
>this has nothing to do with government shut downs and a chinese flu
How can I short you?

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>>19312970
Where do you think you are? Memes > fundamentals every day of the week

>> No.19313050
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Pathetic bulls can’t get it up. Don’t worry Mumu, I’ll give your girl that good bear dick. :)

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>>19313016
Okay sir, we'll send gold detection undersea robots to recover it.

>> No.19313066

If a ETF temporarily halt creations is it time to sell it for good or is it not as bad as it sounds?

>> No.19313070
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>>19312970
>gibberish verbal diarrhea
>macro fundamentals
Were did you mention demand and supply? Cruise line stocks going down has nothing to do with a government shutdown and a disease that is more likely to kill older people who take cruises? Take your meds.

>> No.19313073

bros, I have a problem. I have about $30,000 in credit card debt but I keep putting all my money into tanker stocks. How do I recover from this?

>> No.19313086

>>19312582
This guy actually gets it, wow.

>> No.19313089

>>19312970
Memes. If fundies ever mattered, tankers would be mooning and oil would be negative again right now.

>> No.19313090

>>19313073
Take out another credit card and double down on tankers

>> No.19313097

>>19313050
A triple top within a triple top. TA gods have spoken.

>> No.19313102

>>19313090
Ah, the famous big company strategy.

>> No.19313103

>>19313001
>muh nipponification!
Kek so the bearish thesis is literally retarded zero hedge doom & gloom?

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>>19313073
>How do I recover from this?
Sell tanker stocks and repay debt.

>> No.19313108

>>19312879
You wanna know my play, ni994?

Then u gotta subscribe to my newsletter

>>19312897
Basado y rojo

>>19313045
>Where do you think you are? Memes > fundamentals every day of the week
+++

>>19313050
We need to break through the meme level of 3K to unleash a AoE meme spell of Bullish Potency

>> No.19313110

>>19313073
>I have about $30,000 in credit card debt

How is this even possible? I have about $1200, but even I know not to let it worsen. I have $2800 in stock margin to pay off before I pay off my credit card debt, though. Good thing I have 0% APR for the next 12 months.

>> No.19313121

>>19313073
Sell your stock and repay your credit card debt.

>> No.19313179

>>19313037
dumbfuck

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UH OH MUMU....

>> No.19313197

>>19312737
Wasn't that found to be illegal in the US?
FDR already tried that.

>> No.19313198

>>19313189
>>19313189
>>19313189
new

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>>19313050
That perfect H&S. I’m gonna coom

>> No.19313229

>>19313194

Boomer here. Fuck your death cross. BRRRR

>> No.19313263

>>19313229
Go back to r*ddit you insufferable fag
>t. 2007 newfag

>> No.19313530

>>19309157
that we're in a double dip and you're about to get fucked.

>> No.19313607

>>19312875
>people still fall for "priced in" and "market is not the economy"
How are people so fucking stupid?

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