/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.19306356]

I am a second-gen immigrant living in Germany and I realized that this whole country is basically a ponzi scheme. The more I earn, the more I get taxed, so it is impossible to accumulate money as an employee. And now they introduced a new tax on ETF to finance the failing pension system.
Meanwhile, real estate or inheritance gets hardly taxed at all.
The whole system is designed to make real estate owners wealthy while exploiting qualified immigrant workers

[Anonymous No.19306373]

>>19306356
Cope ahmed

[Anonymous No.19306399]

>>19306373
this. you can always go back to sand town, where taxes are lower.

[Anonymous No.19306410]

>>19306356
Welcome to demographically collapsed countries, T*rk. Every developed country that isn't the US, France, New Zealand, or Iceland are ponzis.

[Anonymous No.19306432]

>>19306356
> Germany. real estate or inheritance gets hardly taxed at all.
That is what poor people think. It isn't true. Rich people think about leving Germany, because taxes are eating them up. And will get raised on them yet again soon. Somewhere all this money has to come from now. If you own real estate in Germany there are about 5 different taxes, two of which you have to pay when you acquire it. The other 3 are owning and renting it out. Rich people pay such incredibly high taxes in Germany that some wish they'd rather not even have to be bound to this bullshit system anymore, you complete retard.

[Anonymous No.19306436]

>>19306356
Crypto gains are taxfree when you hold for at least one year. This, apart from real estate, is your only chance to make it in germany.

[Anonymous No.19306450]

>>19306436
Also big corps are paying low to no taxes here, even german corps like VW.

[Anonymous No.19306465]

>>19306356
>The more I earn, the more I get taxed, so it is impossible to accumulate money as an employee.

welcome to every first world country in the world

[Anonymous No.19306481]

>>19306356
then leave and take your parents with you

[Anonymous No.19306501]

>>19306465
Wrong. 33 or so % income tax in USA for EVERYONE. In Germany it is over 50% if you make the fucking mistake of earning more money than the government thinks you should make without being punished for it.

[Anonymous No.19306519]

>>19306356
That's not how a ponzi scheme works, kanak. also you have to go back

[Anonymous No.19306539]

>>19306356
Okay, then got back to whatever shithole you cam from, retard.
You are a slave everywhere.

[Anonymous No.19306555]

>>19306501
it's 42% and is only applied to the taxable income *above* the last level, so you will have less money left after tax compared to earning less. it's really a very common and simple system and you should have learned that in school.

[Anonymous No.19306562]

>second-gen immigrant
yugo?

[Anonymous No.19306591]

>>19306562
former soviet union

[Anonymous No.19306593]

>>19306555
I used to live in the US for a few years about 20 years ago. It was about 33% then, if I remember correctly. I haven't kept track of what went on in the US since then.

[Anonymous No.19306606]

[Anonymous No.19306632]

>>19306606
That is very nice. But Switzerland also has extremely high living costs in comparison.

[Anonymous No.19306637]

>>19306555
I pay the 42 % premium tax. I rent a small one room apartment in munich and drive a old car. I don‘t have much money to put in shitcoins at the end of the month. No Stocks at all. This is what the German upper class Lifestyle looks like:(

[Anonymous No.19306657]

>>19306606
I was thinking about moving to Switzerland, but I heard that they are really racist against Germans and I would always remain a stranger there

[Anonymous No.19306673]

>>19306593
couldn't stand living in a country where I am reminded on a daily basis that nobody gives a shit about homeless people. I did two internships in san francisco and everyday i was disgusted by the fact that there is no shared identity in this country and everybody just tries to outcompete everyone else.

[Anonymous No.19306688]

>be me
>immigrant in belgium for 4 years now
>consultant
>company pays rent
>company pays expenses
>don't own a car because I get to drive my gf's BMW
>literally all my expenses are food, beer and condoms

[Anonymous No.19306702]

>>19306555
Ah, I see, I misunderstood you. You were talking about Germany not the US with the 42%
It isn't true. Because income tax also encompasses income from real estate and other investing. In the end, you pay close to 60% to the government, and they enable millions of lazy faggots to just not work.
Also, look at the ultimate high tax countries in Europe, Sweden, Austria, and so on.
You are literally being punished for earning money. While not making money for all kinds of excuses is being rewarded with free money. Why would anyone other than a communist think this is ok?

[Anonymous No.19306728]

>>19306356
I do get the impression that Germany is set up to maintain oligarchical structures. Which makes sense. This is a process that happens everywhere (until some event resets it) and it makes sense the rich would rig the game in their favour.

[Anonymous No.19306733]

>>19306373
based

[Anonymous No.19306744]

>>19306356
>qualified
>immigrant
pick one

[Anonymous No.19306779]

>>19306501
literally not true you retard. usa has marginal tax just like almost every country. and states also charge income tax on top of federal government

[Anonymous No.19306783]

>>19306657
do it, you're not german so you should be good. bye.

>>19306702
From a US perspective it's communism. from a communist perspective it's capitalism. from an educated perspective it's called social market economy.
if you're living a good life in the US than only because you have some high income job, and that's good for you, but it is at the expense of many others who live a miserable life because of your prosperity. if you can live with that, fine.

[Anonymous No.19306799]

>>19306673
That's very nice of you, but I cannot afford to care about others if I cannot care for myself. German pension system will collaps sooner or later, and I fear the my generation is the one who will be forced to take the impact. So once I am old I will be like those homeless people in san francisco, collecting bottles

[Anonymous No.19306804]

sonderzug nach mekka

[Anonymous No.19306805]

>>19306356
You need to go back untermensch. No one wants you in germany parasitical faggot.

[Anonymous No.19306846]

>>19306410
How the US not a ponzi scheme? It doesnt manufacture anything and is reliant on growing population of suckers to prop up the dollar

[Anonymous No.19306885]

>>19306783
>From a US perspective it's communism. from a communist perspective it's capitalism. from an educated perspective it's called social market economy.
if you're living a good life in the US than only because you have some high income job, and that's good for you, but it is at the expense of many others who live a miserable life because of your prosperity. if you can live with that, fine.
I'd honestly rather live with the fact that only truly needy or handicapped people are being helped. Not everyone who just doesn't want to.
And if I have learned anything from the Americans that I took to heart when I was there, it is this: I care about the people that are my own. My family, friends, and wider relations. The rest of the world I neither have influence on, nor do I want to, nor do I care if 10 million new African babies that are produced daily die. Because no-one can feed them anyway.
Fuck the world. Take care of yourself, your own, and quit being a faggot.

[Anonymous No.19306896]

>>19306805
The biggest parasite of them all wants them, the state

[Anonymous No.19306926]

>>19306846
It engineers. Manufacturing is shipped to nigger tier countries. This increases the value of the products engineered. We also manufacture planes, trains, bombs,
And automobiles.

[Anonymous No.19306932]

>>19306885
>but it is at the expense of many others who live a miserable life because of your prosperity.

This is wrong. Wealth creation is not a zero sum game. If you are a bloodsucking lawyer or something like that then this would be true.

[Anonymous No.19306944]

>>19306932
I never said it is at the expense of others.

[Anonymous No.19307138]

>>19306932
yeah he quoted me but forget a couple of meme arrows. i am not talking about the useless high school dropout who will never produce anything of value, but more about the (former) middle class that can't make enough to support their families while your heros (bezos, musk) do absolutely everything to avoid unions which would give them a little bit of leverage.
as I said, no shared identity, everybody is on his own. with the biggest military in the world it will be a great civil war to watch once this escalates.

[Anonymous No.19307151]

>>19306944
> it is at the expense of many others who live a miserable life because of your prosperity
>I never said it is at the expense of others.

[Anonymous No.19307230]

>>19307151
You have no clue. Before I accept new renters I have them submit their income proof to my lawyer. If it isn't at least 4 times the monthly rent, I refuse them! Not only to protect my own investment and income, but also to protect them.
I could sell all my real estate and go live in Cayman for the rest of my life. Which would be a whole less trouble than dealing with taxes, renters, renovations, maintenance, and so on.
You guys really have no clue.
What you want is straight up communism. Well, Germany is well on its way. I'll be gone in time.

[Anonymous No.19307301]

>>19307230
lmao, you are a parasite, living off from wealth and contributing nothing to society.

[Anonymous No.19307328]

>>19307301
Do you think I bought all that property with thin air? Do you think rich people were just Neets that got lucky? No, most of them worked very very hard to earn it. For generations even. YOU are the parasite. Asking that we share our money, just because we have it.

[Anonymous No.19307390]

Where does the meme of Germany being a rich country come from?

[Anonymous No.19307404]

I felt the same about Germany. Eventually I went to the US, yuge difference.
>US minimum wage is more than average German wage.
>Cost of living is the same.
>Effective tax (including health insurance, other withholdings) in the US is 29% on $88k per year.
In Germany I paid more than 40% for 45k€. Its not even a competition.

[Anonymous No.19307433]

>>19307328
Your parent's generation bought property in a time where it was still possible, then closed the door for newcomers by voting for policies that will inflate housing prices.
Though I don't blame you for being a parasite, I would probably do the same if I could.

[Anonymous No.19307465]

>>19306356
now you understand why they tried to eliminate jews

[Anonymous No.19307471]

>>19307433
My girlfriend's son (22 years old) bought his first little apartment a few weeks ago. Not because we helped in any way. But because he went to a bank, took a credit, and will pay that shit off for the next 30 years.

[Anonymous No.19307491]

>>19306896
>Enter ZOG

[Anonymous No.19307520]

Yes it is a country of slaves. Germans are known to obey like slaves without ever complaining.

Go back to work now

[Anonymous No.19307531]

>>19307390
> behind Italy
> behind Greece
> behind (((Israel)))
> behind UAE
Should I just move to Poland?
I will soon have a MechEng/SysEng master's degree and I don't want to contribute to this failing coutry. I know Polish. Will I pay less taxes there?

[Anonymous No.19307619]

>>19307471
Needing 30 years to pay off a little apartment is the outcome of boomer politics that drive up hosing prices

[Anonymous No.19307657]

>>19307619
It's called Pax Americana and overpopulation

[Anonymous No.19307682]

>>19307619
Not exactly. Apartments in big cities are expensive. Always have been. Which is why that sort of investment is a better idea than buying a cheap ass apartment somewhere in the countryside. The city apartment will gain in value over these 30 years way more. This has been the case since before ww2 in all European cities.

[Anonymous No.19307687]

>>19307657
nah, it's called nimby

[Anonymous No.19307727]

>>19307682
>The city apartment will gain in value over these 30 years way more.
Doubt it. The apartment might keep its value, but a price hike like in the past is not very likely

[Anonymous No.19307784]

>>19307727
Well, like I said, it has kept true for generations now. Beats inflation at the least. Plus, gives you a bit of freedom if your stocks shouldn't have such a good year. I am a real estate fan. Although it means a lot of work and taxes and costs.

[Anonymous No.19307803]

your family benefited from it, time to pay for the other leeches faggot

[Anonymous No.19307807]

>>19306410
What makes France different from the rest of Europe?

[Anonymous No.19307831]

>>19307807
mass importation of niggers and nafris to replace the native population for far longer and to a much higher degree (they get former colonies privilege) than any other country in continental Europe

[Anonymous No.19307846]

>>19307831
You misunderstand, that anon was saying France ISNT a ponzi.

[Anonymous No.19307858]

>>19306896
This guy gets it

[Anonymous No.19307866]

>>19307803
In case you are talking to me? My family 'benefited' by studying and working their asses for generations! Including myself. So just that now, it be shared with lazy plebs? Oh no Anon, if it comes to that, I will know how to be gone in time.

[Anonymous No.19307884]

What do you mean? Salaries are quite high those days, I make 78k as a JS developer

[Anonymous No.19307896]

Your country is run by somebody whose family CHOSE to move to East Germany and joined communist groups. What the fuck do you expect Germany to be like?

[Anonymous No.19307922]

>>19306501
dishonest talking point, you are twisting the facts

[Anonymous No.19307930]

>>19306356
>The whole system is designed to make real estate owners wealthy while exploiting qualified immigrant workers
Yea, why do you think they let you in? out of the goodness of their heart.

[Anonymous No.19307937]

>>19307922
keep reading faggot. I misunderstood

[Anonymous No.19308185]

>>19307471
>>19307619
>it's all about cash flow
>who tf wants to life in germany in 30 years time

[Anonymous No.19308416]

>>19308185
>>who tf wants to life in germany in 30 years time
The young ones will have to.

[Anonymous No.19308452]

But hey, they can then all be equally poor. It will be a paradise. Africans, Arabs, and a few Germans.. nobody works. Nobody pays taxes. This will be fun to watch from afar.

[Anonymous No.19308530]

>>19307884
And how much of those 78k are you allowed to keep?

[Anonymous No.19308532]

>>19307471
>my girlfriend’s son
German cuck at its finest lmao

[Anonymous No.19308572]

>>19307930
It is possible to immigrate to USA as a poor Indian and become wealthy within a livetime. Germany offers no such opportunity

[Anonymous No.19308626]

>>19306356
Komm nach Wien Brudi, hier ist es wie in Deutschland nur ohne die asozialen. Plus Lebensstandard ist um ein vielfaches höher, man bekommt Unterstützung vom Staat in allen Lebensbereichen und dominiert den leergefegten Arbeitsmarkt

[Anonymous No.19308685]

>>19308532
Nigger I am 46 years old. Most women have adult kids at that age. The ones who don't are fucking crazy. Get lost. Newfag.

[Anonymous No.19308727]

>>19308572
Although true, not so much since '08. burgerland changed quite a lot, life is now expensive. Also burgerland is a fuckin shithole. The meme you believe in is dying RN. The era for cheap money is over of burgers. Equilibrium will be sought

[Anonymous No.19308750]

>>19308626
Du machst Spaß oder? Ohne die Assozialen? In Wien??? Wien ist voll von Leuten die nichts tun ausser vom Steuergeld des Restes Österreichs zu leben. Und damit sind nicht nur die 'Neubürger' gemeint. Wien ist eine Schande und grenzwertig kommunistisch.

[Anonymous No.19308772]

>>19308685
Ok boomer

[Anonymous No.19308784]

>>19308772
Ok then faggot

[Anonymous No.19308791]

>>19306356
Keep paying the taxes you good lil kraut

[Anonymous No.19308796]

>>19306356
Why don't you go back then? I bet the German ponzi scheme is probably better than the alternarives actually available to you. I feel sorry for you second-gen faggots. You spend your whole lives obsessing over your identity and your parents because they moved where the money was.

[Anonymous No.19308856]

>>19308532
I'm only 28, but I can understand dating a woman with a kid if both of you are boomers and they're grown and out of the house.

[Anonymous No.19308869]

Alles klar, Mohammed Kowalczyk

[Anonymous No.19308870]

>>19308626
Ich habe gehört, dass der Wiener Wohnungsmarkt von Mietadel beherrscht wird. Ich weiß nicht, ob ich da als Neuzugänger eine vernünftige Wohnung finden könnte

[Anonymous No.19308902]

>>19308870
Natürlich kannst du das.

[Anonymous No.19308921]

>>19308626
>Komm nach Wien Brudi, hier ist es wie in Deutschland nur ohne die asozialen.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA das ist nicht dein ernst oder?
Wien IST die konzentration an assozialem von Österreich.
Degenerierte Spasten links und rechts und ein Wort Deutsch sucht man dort so vergebens wie selbstverständliche Höflichkeit.

>Brudi
> Plus Lebensstandard ist um ein vielfaches höher, man bekommt Unterstützung vom Staat in allen Lebensbereichen und dominiert den leergefegten Arbeitsmarkt.
Achso, du gehörst zu den asozialen Huankindern, das erklärt es.

[Anonymous No.19308960]

>>19308870
P.S. weisst du warum du das kannst? weil wir NICHT kommunistisch sind! ;)

[Anonymous No.19308991]

>>19306432
Seemingly most of them move to Portugal and Greece

[Anonymous No.19309008]

>>19308902
>>19308960
Ok Brudi, ich werde mir mal Wien näher in Betracht ziehen

[Anonymous No.19309043]

>>19308991
No, and also not yet. But the UK are a thing to be eyed. They might just become a tax oasis right there where we need it.

[Anonymous No.19309072]

>>19309008
Lieber Anon, ich bin nicht dein Brudi. Ich bin dein schlimmster Albtraum. Um Rambo zu zitieren.

[Anonymous No.19309121]

>>19308870
Ich hab in Hamburg und Berlin gewohnt, bezahlbare und gut gelegene Wohnungen in Wien zu finden ist ein Kinderspiel im Vergleich.

>>19308921

Das gute an Wien ist, dass solche Leute wie du weiter in Osnabrück/Fulda/Karlsruhe bleiben.

[Anonymous No.19309166]

>>19309121
Ich gehöre zu den Trotteln die in Österreich Steuern zahlen um das Drecksloch und die Drecksfotzen in Wien mit Sozialleistungen den Arsch zu stopfen.

Gehts scheißn
t. ganz Österreich

[Anonymous No.19309212]

>>19309121
Kannst du Hamburg oder Berlin empfehlen? Ich wohne in München und hier stimmt das Verhältnis zwischen Gehalt und Mietpreisen nicht

[Anonymous No.19309227]

>>19309166
Ich zahle in Österreich auch Steuern und nun?

Armut wie in einigen deutschen Großstädten fördert Ghettoisierung und Kriminalität. Jeder Euro in Sozialleistungen, bezahlbaren Wohnraum und Bildung rentiert sich für eine Gesellschaft um ein vielfaches mehr als Steuererleichterungen für Unternehmen und aufgeblasene Politikergehälter.

[Anonymous No.19309229]

>>19309166
Du hast recht. t. reicher Wiener.
Und es wird nun noch schlimmer. Sieh dir die Forderungen der AK an. Man kann nur noch auswandern wenn man was hat.

[Anonymous No.19309303]

>>19309212
Auf gar keinen Fall. Was ich von München höre ist nur noch krank. Freunde die Vollzeit arbeiten zahlen bis zu 1000€ für WG Zimmer um nicht auf dem Land wohnen zu müssen. Berlin ist in meinen Augen ein Drecksloch, zum Party machen und Freunde besuchen ganz nett, bevorzuge aber Wien weil kompakter und weniger Penner die in die Bahn scheissen. Hamburg nur empfehlenswert wenn du relativ hohes Einkommen hast und Leute kennst, Wohnungsmarkt auch eine Katastrophe. Finde Wien vom Flair und Lebensgefühl überlegen.

[Anonymous No.19309381]

Ganz EU bald:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh_i7nZT_Qs

[Anonymous No.19309429]

>>19306356
Musel wie dich mögen wir nicht

[Anonymous No.19309471]

Work work areBeit Mackt free.

[Anonymous No.19309478]

>>19309303
München war der Wahn. Freund von mir hat um 600k ne Wohnung gekauft vor ca 10 jähren... hat sie vor nem jähr wieder verkauft für über 2 mio... München ist das London/Tokio Europas geworden was diese Preise betrifft. Und ich weiß net warum

[Anonymous No.19309517]

Was ist denn in München? Ausser gutes Essen,gutes Bier, gute Gesellschaft? Das hast ja in anderen Städten auch

[Anonymous No.19309521]

>sand nigger complaining about having to contribute

[Anonymous No.19309535]

>>19309227
>aufgeblasene Politikergehälter.
Das ist es wohin deine Steuergelder groesstenteils fliessen und nur ein kleiner Prozentsatz geht an Sozialleistungen, die vollkommen wirkungslos sind. Wenn Menschen weniger Steuern zahlen muessten, waeren sie vielleicht auch weniger arm

[Anonymous No.19309609]

>>19306846
The US is still the world's second largest exporter, anon.

[Anonymous No.19309630]

>>19309609
90% of exports are us-dollars

[Anonymous No.19309668]

krautschwuchtel hier
dieses land ist die absolute hölle wenn man geld verdienen will
paradies wenn man sich vom system aushalten lassen will
ich wollte im märz in die usa, hab schon arbeitsvisum, job, wohnung etc. jetzt sitz ich wegen der corona kacke hier fest und hasse dieses boomerland noch mehr als je zuvor. sobald trump die grenzen öffnet bin ich hier weg dann könnt ihr cucks eure steuern schön selber zahlen während ich mexikanische cuties in AMERICA bange. die merkel hat jetzt schon steuererhöhungen wegen corona versprochen hahah get rekt ihr cucks

[Anonymous No.19309669]

>>19309609
The USA are our only hope. Even if all these faggots don't want to hear it. Without the USA backing Europe at this point, we go down.

[Anonymous No.19309688]

>>19309535
So wie in den USA? Sieht man ja jetzt grad wie gut das funktioniert

[Anonymous No.19309689]

>>19309669
fuck off

[Anonymous No.19309697]

>>19309689
:D explain

[Anonymous No.19309717]

>>19309697
it means go away

[Anonymous No.19309738]

>>19309689
You can't explain, eh?

[Anonymous No.19309747]

>>19306846
More farms and farmers than your irrelevant euro country, more oil than your irrelevant euro country, more universities and practical research than your irrelevant euro country, higher volume and quality of every art medium than your irrelevant euro "country", the list goes on

[Anonymous No.19309753]

>>19309043
It may be promising but don't they have very strong censorship there ?
I don't want to need a porn license to browse 4chan...

[Anonymous No.19309754]

>>19309717
Well, dear Anon, that will never happen.

[Anonymous No.19309794]

>>19309753
lol if I save taxes, I donÄt care about porn m8

[Anonymous No.19309817]

>>19306410
NZ lol? Are you fucked

[Anonymous No.19309845]

>>19306896
>the state
The only things benefiting of low wage workers are private corporations. The corporations throw money at the whores in the state and flood your country with retards to make labor cheaper, fag.

[Anonymous No.19309906]

>>19309517
Angenehmes Klima. Viel Grün. Sicher

[Anonymous No.19309941]

>>19309747
Every other point may be right but
>higher volume and quality of every art medium
you definitely not have higher quality.
European culture is based on tradition and an almost 2000year long history. Or above in souther Europe.
Whereas American culture is centered around niggers. They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elect a nigger as their president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force of soldiers filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching nigger ball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Mike Tyson while attacking the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and their music charts are topped by niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those niggers are true red blooded american niggers. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate niggers and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love niggers but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of nigger loving niggers

[Anonymous No.19309948]

>>19308784
>>19308772
You’re both faggots

[Anonymous No.19309958]

>>19309906
Wie gesagt, das hab ich doch in vielen Städten.. der unglaubliche Wertgewinn der Immobilien in München ist einzigartig. Ich beneide das. Ich will wissen warum

[Anonymous No.19309969]

>>19306373
FPBP

[Anonymous No.19310061]

>>19309630

Tell the planet to stop using US markets to clear their transactions then. They won't, because nobody else can make that kind of market. But fortunately for you, America's gonna close down that global market and you guys can figure out how to make do. We stand at the precipice of the great Bye, Felecia.

[Anonymous No.19310083]

>>19309941
>European culture is based on tradition and an almost 2000year long history.

A two millennia history of raping and pillaging and betraying your neighbors. It fits right in with the way joggers work.

[Anonymous No.19310087]

>>19309794
I hope you are ready to stop posting on /biz/ and /pol/ and never making a comment on twitter in that case.
Or don't have the bad idea to browse hentai with politically incorrect content...

For me it's a bigger issue, I don't want to live in fear of the police going after me for some dumb reason.

[Anonymous No.19310142]

>>19310087
Look me straight in the virtual eye mate... I am Satan. I do what I want.

[Anonymous No.19310162]

>>19309941
You seem to have a nigger fixation. In a majority of the US, people want nothing to do with niggers and have nothing to do with niggers. The media, however, is the voice of the jewish elite and not a representation of your average American.

[Anonymous No.19310299]

>>19307784
its only worth as much people are willing to pay. we flood germany with 1+ million retards each year which all have the right to vote. you are lucky if they dont go full socialist the next 30years and take your stuff. the only thing positive about that is that it will hit the people most who were in favor of open borders in the first place.

[Anonymous No.19310301]

>>19310142
You are free to do whatever you want in your prison cell, Satan...

You can send my regards to Assange the next time you see him.

[Anonymous No.19310384]

>>19310162
>The media, however, is the voice of the jewish elite and not a representation of your average American.
Either case
>and quality of every art medium
is wrong

>>19310083
>A two millennia history of raping and pillaging and betraying your neighbors. It fits right in with the way joggers work.
Ok Chang, better than doing the same and being cucked by Mongols (or Mughals in case you are a pajeet and not a chang)

[Anonymous No.19310439]

>>19310301
Oh? Have I done anything illegal as to your knowledge?

[Anonymous No.19310445]

>>19310384
I'm an American, sorry Nigel.

[Anonymous No.19310500]

And this is where you will see that these people do not even belong here...
>>19306399
>>19306450
>>19306519
>>19306783
>>19307390

Yo look at her bush. Has it got hair?

[Anonymous No.19310549]

>>19306356
>The whole system is designed to make real estate owners wealthy while exploiting qualified immigrant workers
yep
the whole german, austrian, swiss economy is built on the backs of turks and romanian wc cleaners. They exploit the foreign workforce as much as they can.
Save up some money and move to a better country.

[Anonymous No.19310599]

>>19306356

This is why didnt go to a University here in germany. Straight after my Matura Diploma from Highschool i did an Well Paid apprentice and am working in the very same company and earn good.
If i'd go to university and waste my time there i'd surely earn more money but the higher i earn the more i pay in taxes.
So in order to earn like 3k€ Net you have to earn like 5k€ before taxes which is nearly impossible without job experience and as freshmen dropping out of Uni. Even if you have an University Engineering degree you wont see so much money ever since wages in germanistan are utterly low and stagnating since boomers began to retire.

Meanwhile what i do:

Live with parents, save every last goddamn penny i earn (hardcore mode) . Im mostly investing in healthcare, tech ,drug and telecommunication and Real Estate stocks.
With real estate stocks i get some money from the government back because the company also rents its homes out to welfare beneficiaries who let the gov pay for their rent, LOL

As soon as i earn like 3 to 5k€ in dividends every month im moving out of this crapistan germany.
Peace

[Anonymous No.19310603]

>>19310549
lol
You expressed this the wrong way. The way I like to state the truth is: WORK FOR ME YOU PLEBS

[Anonymous No.19310613]

>>19306410
France? Is this bait? France has fallen.

[Anonymous No.19310689]

>>19310613
Listen to me very closely now... I hate the French. My Grandfather was a highly ranked officer in the German Army back in the days... the French saw, and gave up. What kind of faggotry do you need to give up? Before a fight even started? As far as I am concerned all Frenchmen are gay.

[Anonymous No.19310787]

>>19310613
Every European country has fallen, but France has bothered to keep some of the things that will make it relevant.

[Anonymous No.19310819]

>>19310439
You are bound to end in prison quickly if you do what you want without any self restraint and faster in some countries than in others.

[Anonymous No.19310849]

>>19310599
Where are you planning to move out ?

[Anonymous No.19311166]

>>19309941
Ah. A student of niggerology i see

[Anonymous No.19311204]

>>19310819
You my dear Anon would be fucking surprised :>

[Anonymous No.19311285]

>>19310849
Larphausen

[Anonymous No.19311296]

>>19306356
Fiat currency isn't real.

[Anonymous No.19311354]

>>19309941
DELET!

[Anonymous No.19311416]

>>19310599
>As soon as i earn like 3 to 5k€ in dividends every month im moving out of this crapistan germany.
you need 2.4 Million euros in stocks at 5% yield to get 4k a year. How are you gonna get there, Hansen?

[Anonymous No.19311431]

>>19311416
>a year
a month

[Anonymous No.19311516]

>>19310599
>didnt go to university
time to rope anon

[Anonymous No.19311546]

>>19306356
Oh no, native Germans will be able to maintain their wealth and immigrants will gain no power unless they are wildly successful. True tragedy, I think refugees should pay zero tax!

[Anonymous No.19311618]

>>19311546
Immigrants that rape children, yes we needed them definitely. Wealth doesn't even matter then. Check this; we accept immigrants by the masses. to help them.. they rape our women and show zero respect for our way of life. what do we do? we still welcome them. How insane is this. How fucking stupid are we as a whole?

[Anonymous No.19311686]

If some immigrant raped my child in a public bath, there would not be any more gutmensch. There would be bloody murder. First the guy that did it. And then the government that encouraged it to happen.

[Anonymous No.19311815]

>>19307471
Yeah, that happens unironically way too often.
A friend of mine cancelled his Bausparer a few weeks ago. 8000€ it was
The guy from the bank tried to convince hin to buy a house or apartment with it.
Like it's a normal thing to finance this shit for 30 to 40 years.
Luckily I LINKpilled him and he bought 2500 LINK with it instead

[Anonymous No.19311820]

>>19306465
Here in Switzerland taxes are very low and salaries are very high. Unfortunately they've also gone big on the mass immigration meme so they've stagnated for the past 20 years, but they're still much higher than anywhere outside the US, but with even lower taxes.

[Anonymous No.19311843]

>>19311204
It wouldn't be the first time..
Please tell me

[Anonymous No.19311880]

>>19306356
>türken raus

[Anonymous No.19311972]

>>19309753
Very high taxes
Very strong censorship
High crime, weak anti crime measures
Very bad laws on defense (look up Tony Martin)
Low salaries
Mass immigration to pay for boomer pensions and benefits

It's shit m8. Just your average EU globalist battery farm

[Anonymous No.19312048]

>>19311843
Tell you what? That he is Satan? And does as he pleases? He said that already. Keep glowing though :>

[Anonymous No.19312526]

>>19311516

Its not worth in germany to attend an University bru, the more you earn the more you pay taxes. And taxation changes the higher u earn.
So it could happen that you end up earning same as a mechanic as an engineer with uni degree around here...

[Anonymous No.19312701]

>>19312526
Soon to be MechEng master here.
I would earn maybe 4k more on average in my first year.
Just with a Bachelors I would only make 1k more than the average mechanic per year.

[Anonymous No.19312732]

>>19306356
This isn't a Germany or migration problem but an EU boomer problem. It's the same everywhere. They bought the property on the cheap and own everything. You can work your ass off but good luck if you're not inheriting from your parents.

[Anonymous No.19312786]

>>19306637
But munich has ridiculously high rent and perhaps the biggest housing bubble in all of germany

>t. Used to live in munich

[Anonymous No.19312796]

>>19312732
The sad thing is you will probably lower on the social hierarchy and can afford less than some 20 or 25 year old kid who had property-owning (usually multiple) parents. I know a fuckload of kids who just rent out their parents extra properties, MAYBE work some extra pointless job or sell weed and pull in double or more the average income, drive BMWs or Audis and have time to go to gym and live a healthy lifestyle with travel and parties all that bullshit. You can have a better job, work more, have none of the privileges but because they rolled a better dice you will be forever fucked in most of EU. The sad thing all the majority fo hot bitches will flock to these landowners too. Literally, landownership is the ONLY saving grace in most of EU, if you don't have that you are fucked beyond belief with rent prices, taxes etc.

[Anonymous No.19312803]

>>19306688
Based

[Anonymous No.19312842]

>>19312796
and then the prices of property are so high you will never be able to afford a shithole small 100 year old decomposing apartment close to any city center or any semi-attractive area with your shit EU salaries. the best thing to do is to beg a bank to give you a loan and instead of paying the rent, buy a property, rent it out and use the rent to help pay off the loan. you will have to wait 5-10 years or more depending on the cost for that to pay off though, while you are probably living with your parents or renting a tiny room yourself.

[Anonymous No.19312868]

>>19312842
sorry for the multiple posts, but i forgot to mention this loan idea only makes sense if you have a sizeable deposit already saved up. otherwise you will need to add more years to the estimate to where you will be able to own and live in something yours. by the time that happens you will be older, more jaded and with worse erections. could also just wait for chainlink to x100...that could be your only way to quickly improve your life in Europe

[Anonymous No.19312906]

>>19312842
This. Thank you. I donÄt care. I am am a made man. But looking at his situation, Germany will not be ok soon. And there is no 'wir schaffen das'

[Anonymous No.19313611]

>>19312906
>>19309072
>I am your worst nightmare
>made man
Cringe

[Anonymous No.19313627]

>>19306356
Leave, you do not belong there and migrants prop up the housing market.

[Anonymous No.19313732]

>>19313611
Yeah baby, you like that cringe don't you?

[Anonymous No.19314353]

>>19313732
ajoh du geile sau du

[Anonymous No.19314405]

>>19306688
same but ethnic belgian

[Anonymous No.19314436]

>>19306356
You have to go back, sandnigger.

[Anonymous No.19314455]

>>19314353
Du ahnst nicht wie geil :D

[Anonymous No.19314476]

>>19312526
this is bullshit, you only have rising taxes till a special level of money you get, currently it is 57052 Euro for 42% percent tax and with 270502 euro you have to pay 45% and thats it.

[Anonymous No.19314504]

>>19314455
azo voll assi ey