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"I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way..." edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq (embed)

>Stock market Words
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)

>Risk Management
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp (embed)

>Educational Sites
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://nhentai.net/tag/handholding (this one is important)

>Free Charts
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/

>Screeners
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live Data
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) Calculator
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings
https://fintel.io/

>Misc
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com


Previously, on /smg/: >>18978316

>> No.18983726

first for cunny VIX calls july 35

>> No.18983729
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>> No.18983740
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>BITCOIN

>> No.18983764

>>18983740
DUDE

>> No.18983765

OTIS > CARR > RTX. Simple as.

>> No.18983771

>>18983726
You pedo faggots need to die.

>> No.18983774

Do any of you guys buy REITS or MLPs?

Are you familiar with Iron Mountain, ET, USAC?

>> No.18983793

>>18983771
wait no I just used the word I don't actually know what it means

>> No.18983811

>>18983774
>Do any of you guys buy REITS or MLPs?

Why do you ask that as if it were a bad thing?

>> No.18983835

>>18983774
Why used, I used to be a big fan of my little pony

>> No.18983843
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>>18983697
not so fast

>> No.18983853
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>>18983793
it's okay, neither does he

>> No.18983857

>>18983774
I only buy options and very leveraged ETFs

>> No.18983869

>>18983811
Not really thinking its bad I am curious. I noticed a lot of Iron Mountain trucks near my place burning documents. they seem alright but I don't know how to value REIT's and MLPS.

Does P/E work for REITS?
MLPs scare me because of taxes I don't know how they work.

>> No.18983893

>bitcoin crashing
pls tell me market will crab for one more day, I need to load up on TVIX

>> No.18983895

>>18983869
P/E doesn't work for anything. Have you been living in a different timeline for the past 15 years?

>> No.18983899
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18983899

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

>> No.18983926

>>18983895
Not really just started investing and a lot of people use to tell me look at P/E. I usually look at that and assets to debt ratios.

>> No.18984012

>>18983926
Have fun. Look at Amazon's P/E

>> No.18984016
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You be nice to squirrels, /smg/. One day the time will come.

>> No.18984017

>>18983853
>>18983793
Literally a word only used by pedos who think they are being cute but are just being sexual predators. It's funny how people into underage girls always have the smallest dicks too.

>> No.18984027

what do you guys think will happen on monday bros. do you think everything is going to dip or will we reach even higher aths

>> No.18984038

>>18984027
The stocks I have are going up, yours are going down

>> No.18984041

I'm down to my last 3k out of 60k principal. Do I:
1) Buy SPY puts
or
2) Buy SQQQ

>> No.18984055

>>18984027
I think an attempt at 3000 will be made. I don't know if it will be successful.

>> No.18984090

>>18984012
I saw but isn't amazon tech? Like Tech has crazy P/E

>> No.18984103

>>18983697
I just want to get fucked bro :( in any way

>> No.18984109

>>18984090
Amazon is both retail and tech.

>> No.18984126

>>18984027
The stocks I own will go down and everyone else's stocks will go up

>> No.18984131

>>18984027
it's going up almost guaranteed

>> No.18984157

>>18984017
Define underage. AoC is 15 here.

>> No.18984178

>>18984090
6Aj7p9Ma said
>I only buy options and very leveraged ETFs
This is just retarded gambling.
Keep looking at P/E if you want to invest in companies for the long term and don't want to treat the stock market like casino.

>> No.18984251

>>18984178
I thought it was obvious I was joking...

>> No.18984254

>>18984157
Shut the fuck up you nondicked pedophile. Keep hiding.

>> No.18984279

>>18983774
Look at what the REIT is renting. They can rent industrial, retail, residential real estate. GEO is a "REIT" that operates prisons. On the Toronto stock exchange (TSX), industrial REITs have gone up while REITs invested in retail have been crabbing (going sideways) because of the lock down.

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>>18984126
Dude mine too!

>> No.18984309

>>18984251
There are people here who seem to be serious about that.

>> No.18984318

>>18984016
Imagine the smell

>> No.18984327

Will the coin market crash effect the stock market?

>> No.18984328
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>>18984254
Are you sure he isn't a disgusting europoor?

>> No.18984335
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>>18984027
I have no idea.

>> No.18984342

>>18984027
>>18984055
This, but it will be made twice, once around 6am, which will fail. We'll open up closer to 2750, crab around for a little bit, and then get another 3k attempt around 2-3pm, which will also fail.

>> No.18984391

Someone kill TINA before she Weimar's the market.

>> No.18984396

>>18984342
2750? you think it'll far that far why?

>> No.18984404

>>18984041
Am I being rused again?

>> No.18984408
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>>18984391
No

>> No.18984422

>>18984396
Fucked up. I meant 2975.

>> No.18984434

Covered calls, yes?

>> No.18984435

>>18984254
Why are you so angry about this?
>>18984328
I do live in one of the medium ciel states

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>>18984434
Yes.

>> No.18984474

>>18984435
Alright who should have won the last world cup?

>> No.18984494

>>18984041
SQQQ for triple gains.

>> No.18984496

>>18984027
we know every time jerome says bailout spy jumps a couple percent... here's hoping bros...

>> No.18984499

>>18984279
What about datacenter REITS? Do they just rent out storage/data centers for companies? Is that profitable

>> No.18984506

>>18984279
>industrial REITs

Which ones can you recommend?

>> No.18984519

>>18984041
all in the VIX go big or go home

>> No.18984533

>>18984474
I don't watch football

>> No.18984539

>>18984499
>datacenter REITs

Definitely, but which ones specialize in data centers?

>> No.18984543

I'll never bully stock boomers again..

>> No.18984560

>>18984519
>>18984041
>>18983726

>> No.18984602

>>18984327
No, why would it? In what way would a memecoin affect the stock market, something comprised of real world corporations?

>> No.18984629
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>>18984533
Have you ever accidentally thought someone that you met was cute till you found out they were related to you?

Do you like beer or hard liquor?

Do your women have higher body counts than a US drone strike?

Have you seen multiple black people in your country?

>>18984539
IRM is supposedly trying to pivot to data centers supposedly after the paper storage/burning business started shifting. Thats why I was asking if anyone knew about them.

>> No.18984631

>>18984602
>*honk*

>> No.18984637

>>18984602
>Comprised of real world corporations.
Based on the crazy earnings results this past month and response to leading (not lagging) economic data, that has much less meaning right now.

>> No.18984638
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What is the average age of /smg/? A lot of times I feel like I'm trying to get financial advice from retarded zoomers.

>> No.18984674

>DeepBrainChain "devs" came out and insulted the people stupid enough to buy into their obvious scam
>All of crypto dumping before the hlaving

What an amazing day

>> No.18984689

>>18984327
Do you mean foreign exchanges or crypto? If you mean crypto then you're fucking delusional.

>> No.18984694

>>18984638
28 here, a millionaire, u mirin?

>> No.18984713

>>18984694
Post portfolio, fren.

>> No.18984714

>>18984638
30y/o boomer. All permabears and bulls should be shot.

>> No.18984715

>>18984629
>low nigger count
>all my women were virgins with the exception of a 29 yo which had a confirmed count for 4
>i do not like beer or hard liquor
>made out with a second cousin when I was young

>> No.18984732

>>18984694
>>18984713
He won't post anything, the dude is probably 22 and has a total of $400 in his "portfolio" made up of shitcoins and Bitcoin

>> No.18984763

>>18984499
>Is that profitable
You can check this kind of stuff online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHWIzDcWWT8&list=PLD3EB06EC4A19BFB8&index=15

>>18984506
I've only been looking at TSX btw. Maybe check out SMU (Summit) if you invest in Canada? They have very good P/E and decent dividend yield and their stock price is crabbing. I don't have SMU stock yet fyi.

>> No.18984796

>>18984715
Romania/Slovenia/Greece

Are my final three choices.

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>>18984637
>>18984631
Not everything is a retarded tech stock.

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18984843

bros would it be stupid to go all in Boeing?

>> No.18984872

>>18984843
no one knows, what's your timeline?

>> No.18984880

>>18984027
ive looked at the numbers and i can thoroughly agree that it can go up but it also has the same chance of going down too

>> No.18984889

>Bitcoin dumping
Red monday confirmed. Every single time

>> No.18984898

>>18984843
yes its still too early in this covid thing we have no idea what next year looks like

>> No.18984932
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>>18984814
At least post the good one.

>> No.18984945

>>18984872
Gonna try not to touch it for at least a year

>> No.18984996
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I’m so bored!
Ugh.

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>>18984932
>P/E 1943

>> No.18985003

Can any of you slack jawed retards recommend me some supremely underrated stocks right now like $WBT?

>> No.18985016
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What does /smg/ think of FANG?

>> No.18985035

>>18984932
Is this PE ratio really 1943?

Like im confusing that with a normal SP500 PE ratio average of like 13 to 15 right? Its One Thousand Forty Three?!?

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>WARREN BUFFET

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>>18985039
>why yes, I wear adult diapers now, how could you tell?

>> No.18985066

>>18985016
I regret not getting into. But hopefully if oil anon is right and may storage is full hopefully I can get me some rattly boi cheapies.

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>>18984638

>> No.18985089
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>>18985054
>he can talk 4 hours straight without getting tired!!!

>> No.18985098

>>18984629
>>18984539
Digital Realty Trust is the largest datacenter REIT I think... it's quality but expensive and hence lower yielding.
IRM does have a growing data center segment, but it's still a small part of their business. I own a fair amount of IRM and am still buying more. It's a pretty boring business model with the hope of some growth in data centers. But that fits my purposes of steady dividends with a huge yield now thanks to covid. I dont see physical records disappearing any time soon, and clients dont want the hassle of moving everything for a small price difference so there is little worry of competition. I dont expect a ton of growth, just nice dividends, though their latest earnings were good. Would recommend

>> No.18985109

>>18984945
Feels a bit tight. I though it was a good investment at $378 after the plane crash, and was thinking of buying, thank god I didn't. If your time frame was 10 years, I would say sure, put 10% of your folio in it and keep in mind they could in fact go bust, but it's an attractive bet. For 1 year I honestly would not buy any significant amount.

>> No.18985114

>>18983697
.

>> No.18985123

Are dividends still my friend.

>> No.18985125

>>18985066
I too want the rattly boi, sitting on 7k USD waiting for a dip. What's your entry target?

>> No.18985136

real glad i invested in stocks now instead of internet money, bruhs

>> No.18985137

>>18983697
you're a fucking asshole op

>> No.18985145

>>18985098
For IRM do you DRIP or do you take your dividend on the side? Because if it doesn't grow and only depreciates is it worth it to keep reinvesting?

>> No.18985146

>>18985081
cringe

people, and by people...i mean white people(the only people steering history), were happier before Jews, Blacks, and Gays infiltrated and poisoned their society gibs and demands for more political power than they deserved.

>> No.18985152

>>18985081
And look at how shit society is that we've let all those groups free.

>> No.18985162

>>18985125
Honestly don't know. Maybe 20s if it goes that low ever. I regret not getting in when it was the teens.

>> No.18985171

>>18985089
>you see uh, see uh.....uh...... ah...*grumbling noises* .....come to the conclusion that uh....uh... *sweating hysterically*

>> No.18985172
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>>18985039
>I just bought 3000 shares of Tesla! Look at my demo account!

>> No.18985175
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>>18985081
>If they kept the Jews out none of the degenerate things would have happened.
Is this unintentionally anti-Jew?

>> No.18985259

>>18985145
Good question, currently I am DRIPing since it's cheap and I'm trying to build it into a larger position, but I will probably turn it off once I'm happy with it. It's also a question of strategy in general and how active you want to be in directing your dividends. Technically it's always better to redirect dividends into whichever stock is underweight or a good deal but just turning DRIP on and letting it ride is a lot easier and certainly won't hurt you.

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>>18985172
>5% DIVIDENDS

>> No.18985274
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>>18984038
But I own your stocks

>> No.18985303

>>18985054
what a failure of a man

>> No.18985325

>>18985259
I am dripping my RTX and OKE positions. I have enough OKE shares for where I get a share each time it pays out a dividend.

For IRM Do you think its going to go lower?

If I get into IRM

>> No.18985326

>>18984796
Yes

>> No.18985365

>>18985326
Do you have a faith?

Have you been described as a non-jew's jew?

Are you good at winter or summer sports?

>> No.18985374

I legitimately can't tell if we're going to moon or tank next week.

>> No.18985394

>>18985374
>Reply hazy, try again.

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>>18985374

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>>18985374
Never bet against the Forbidden One.

You've activated his special ability "WEIMAR INFLATION", its over 9,000.

>> No.18985424

I literally can't find a single analyst rating for $NHF. What do you guys think about it?

>> No.18985429

>>18985374
I'm short so it's gonna moon

>> No.18985434
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18985434

Should I buy draftkings

>> No.18985445

>>18985429
I'm moon so it's gonna short.

>> No.18985463

>>18985429
I'm long so it's gonna crater.

>> No.18985464

>>18985445
Gonna moon so I'm short

>> No.18985465

>>18984131
>green ID
>one post by this ID
it’s going up boys

>> No.18985484

>>18985325
It's a nice feeling getting whole shares from dividends huh? Honestly I'm not sure... outside of the coronavirus and potential depression I would say it's all upside from here, but I didnt think they would fall this much in the first place since their business was not greatly affected.. so who knows. If you are unsure it might be worth waiting a month... if the v shaped recovery is cancelled and we get another crash you could get a better deal. The last time it was under 25 dollars was back in 2014

>> No.18985490

>>18985434
>P/E 500
Probably. Zoom has a PE of over 1500.

>> No.18985508

Maybe all the big players are dumping bitcoin to put in stocks. If theres alot of volume monday were going up imo

>> No.18985517

>>18985484
>It's a nice feeling getting whole shares from dividends huh?
It's an incredibly comfy feel

>> No.18985524

>>18985484
I hope so, I want to get some shares before it goes back to 70 bucks a share prior to the crash.

>> No.18985575

I really need Wayfair to go down

>> No.18985594

>>18985429
>>18985463
Thanks guys, crab it is.

>> No.18985633

>>18985594
Snib snab is always the answer.

>> No.18985647

>>18985035
ZM in the SP500 soon, fren

>> No.18985675

>>18984027
king bobo will awaken once again.

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an informal little pole for smg

1. Do you think we're heading towards a recession?
2. If so: when do you think we'll hit bottom?
3. If so: what do you think bottom will be? (for example: SPY 180)
4. If so: how long do you think the recession will last?

>> No.18985689

Thinking about playing Logitech for earnings, though it's already passed ATH so maybe I should stock puts. It's jump in sales/earnings should really be only temporary and their guidance might tank the stock.

>> No.18985723

HEY
SUN

ORIGINAL SCARFACE TONIGHT?

Supposed to be very Great Depression kino

>> No.18985729

>>18985675
It will be green we are going up 2.5% for monday

>> No.18985746

>>18985685
>an informal little pole for smg
poll
>1. Do you think we're heading towards a recession?
We are in one. Market slumps are not indicative of recessions nor of their ends.
>2. If so: when do you think we'll hit bottom?
Hopefully Q4 2020
>3. If so: what do you think bottom will be? (for example: SPY 180)
SPY 200 near end of summer
>4. If so: how long do you think the recession will last?
Hopefully 1 year

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>>18985729
Are cryptos unlinked right now?

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>>18985685
it's already begun, soonish, yes, 2 years out of it in the 3rd.

>>18985729
see you tomorrow evening.

>> No.18985786

Monday is pretty much locked in green with reopenings. As earnings come in we're going to crab though, but forward looking we shouldn't crash yet.

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>>18985786
When do you think the crash will come? Could be some time with the fed buying all these junk bonds up right?

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>>18985175
incredibly counter intuitive how the left thinks.

Really shows you how there are several movies on one screen.

Doesnt matter my mom and her friends will still like Charles Krauthammer, Sean hannity, and Bill-O, and even israel for reasons she cant even understand.

>> No.18985854

>btc crashes
stock market is next
the bobos are back in town

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>>18985786
>Monday is pretty much locked in green with reopenings
maybe
>As earnings come in we're going to crab though
why? earnings and guidance has done nothing to the prices of equities. don't start attempting to apply reason to this market now. It's been senseless through almost all of earnings and really couldn't give a shit about any real world data except for hopium levels. Forward looking my ass and pent up demand my ass. It's unequivocally bubble market dynamics, and the underlying reason is credit availability. The price will do whatever it goddamn wants until people realize that a good hunk of corps are insolvent and will not have access to credit.

>>18985822
see above

>> No.18985865

>>18985490
What does PE mean? Why is it good? How much money can I throw into it? Risk wise seems like its safe

>> No.18985878
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>>18985786
Lots of folks point to some time between the oil contracts elapsing, new deluge of death rates from reopenning; and especially if Donald Trump keeps pushing that agenda hard.

But I mean worst comes to worse we could just send the USNS Comfort out for another packed reception right xD

>> No.18985931

>>18985490
Why are you comparing the PE of two different sectors? That's pretty retarded, anon.

>> No.18985933

>>18985865
yeah just buy as much as you can bro guaranteed gains

>> No.18985934

>>18985689
Logitech's IV on Friday when I bought calls was already hitting 70%, and if its anything like NET or DBX, you will get IV crushed regardless if you call the direction right or not. They would have to massively beat or massively miss for options to be profitable. I would buy calls at open and sell before close. Thats what I did with NET and made 100%.


>>18985865
Price/Earnings ratio. Its the ratio of the companie's profit to it's valuation. Most companies trade at 7x-14x earnings, tech companies will trade at ~20x (if they are profitable).

~1000x is literally madness. I would buy long dated puts, but I don't have enough balls as their stock will continue to moon regardless as everyone continues to FOMO in.

>> No.18985938

>>18985865
Share price to earning ratio.

>>18985860
The more the fed bails out the market, won't it just crash harder? Or do they feel this will soften the blow?

>> No.18985947
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18985947

37 minutes to movie night!
I have returned from my DMT reverie, and have bid my housemates farewell, sorry for no dings on Friday I was helping them move out then had 2 go 2 work :<
>>18985723
We could, there's a free copy of it on archive. I was really excited to show Africa Addio (1966) tho, Curtis Yarvin hyped it up and it looks crazy

>> No.18985957

>>18985931
>over-hyped garbage
>not the same sector

>> No.18985967

Tossing a .70 cent call on Monday to try to grasp how the fuck it works.
And i don't need an explanation, I've got the info, i just need to see the practical outcome of losing and winning

>> No.18985974

>>18985755
Depends idk what caused the bitcoin selloff. In the bigger picture they arent related at all

>> No.18986001

>>18985967
Sorry that's 70 cents, so 70 bucks.

>> No.18986004

>>18985081
Where was the lie at any point

>> No.18986019

>>18984638
25 here

>> No.18986028

>>18986001
Remember to use optionsprofitcalculator or another analysis tool like thinkorswim's so you understand why the contract's price moves like it does

>> No.18986034

>>18985003
OTSO

>> No.18986037
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>>18985938
>The more the fed bails out the market
To answer your question, it will lengthen the time of the blow. Inflation and other factors like "TINA" which is untrue imo, will likely "soften" it.
It's credit, it's credit, it's credit. The whole run up from 2012 has to do with credit and debt funded buybacks. Tons of corps have loans they can't pay that were used to buyback their shares to boost prices. it's absolutely the credit markets - and it's one of the only things Jerome gives a fuck about. There's more than enough posts that detail this, and any anon with a shred of sense for what is going on will direct you to 2018 and the FED saying they will "unwind their sheets" and everyone freaking out. Revenues will be cut and any corp on a tight margin is fucked. The Q1 slip up, which has... maybe 3 or 4 weeks of shutdown? should really tell you exactly how fucked some of these guys are.

>> No.18986052

>>18985878
My guess is there won't be massive return of the rona until atleast the winter. The way I see it, is the cities that were most at risk are those with a huge international presence: NY, LA, SF, Miami and maybe Chicago. NY shit the bed because Cuomo initially took the Trump approach and called it a hoax. SF/LA avoided it as a result of partly being liberal bastions and partly because the tech companies made the decision to close up pretty early (GOOG sent everyone home weeks before the shelter in place orders, and then every other tech company followed suite). Miami will probably get fucked but we will see - Maimi isn't really a business hub, and seeing how everyone is too afraid to fly, they will likely not get any international tourists. Literally every other city, however is possibly over reacting.

>> No.18986094

>>18986037
Unwinding their sheets would be a good thing in the long run, it would put these highly leveraged and unprofitable companies out of business.

>> No.18986112

>>18986037
lost what to do with my money. i moved it to cash but not sure with inflation that will be the right move either.

>> No.18986118

>>18985934
>>18985933
Alright. I'm going to try to out in 2 grand on monday. Might sell my kos on monday depending on the news and through another grand in.

>> No.18986127

How to I short the market without losing everything to options expiring out of the money?

>> No.18986148

>>18985685
>Do you think we're heading towards a recession?
We're at the very start of one already.

>If so: when do you think we'll hit bottom?
Hard to tell. Economically, probably near the beginning of next year. Equities? Not too long before that.

>If so: what do you think the bottom will be?
At the lowest 1800-1900.

>If so: how long do you think the recession will last?
A solid two to three years.

>>18986037
100% this.

>>18986094
It would, and it should happen, along with raising interest rates (not now), but the markets threw a tantrum the last time it was attempted. Who's going to take one for the team and follow through the next time around?

>> No.18986150

>>18986127
Don't be a retard

>> No.18986151
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18986151

Smg is so gay on the weekend. Tvix kiddies and trip fags out in full force. Anime and Crab photos. Ya I'm out. See you losers Monday.

>> No.18986170

>>18985760
Its already priced in bobo nobody takes bitcoin serious. Btc could drop to 1$ and the market wouldn't care

>> No.18986171

>>18986127
have kike connections

>> No.18986190
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>>18986052
>Cuomo initially took the Trump approach and called it a hoax
>Trump announces they're shutting down flights back in fucking february
>the dude still hasn't been acquitted from the impeachment hearings
>libby tweets about muh lunar new year celebrations in chinatown
get that straightened out

>>18986094
correct. they need to burn, but we've doubled down on this shit so fucking bad, and the whole world is so much fucking worse off that we should likely do it slowly and methodically.

>>18986112
boomer buffet is pretty much in cash. do with that info what you will.
We're currently fighting a deflationary spiral. I personally am holding cash to have a nice sum for a down payment on some real estate. I have a pile of DXD and tankers with my gambling fun money. I have the smallest position remaining in financials, telecom, and Nintendo because i'm a manchild.

>>18986151
TVIX is pretty retarded, but you can stay home.

>> No.18986259

>>18985878
Honestly think that people are going to mind the deaths that much anymore. We're hitting 100k deaths by EOM (the lower bound estimate), but nobody's even flinching at it. People are at the point where they just want boomers to die so everyone else can move on as fucked up as it sounds. The virus just isn't going away anytime soon and all the corps want waggies back to work, people getting restless also, etc. This year is going to get more fun to say the least.

>> No.18986273

>>18984843

If you're willing to hold for 5 years it's a really great move desu

>> No.18986276

>>18986190
so mad i opened a high yield savings account to park my cash at 1.55 and a week later it is at 1.3 and the other place i was looking stayed the same. not going to open up another account a week later, pisses me off.

>> No.18986292

>>18984254
Come on

Shut the fuck up already

>> No.18986294

about to get cool $100 in MSFT+NKE divs this month. how should i spend it to maximize gains /fit/?

>> No.18986299

>>18986273
Says who? Boeing is a ghost of what it once was

>> No.18986305

>>18984327
Shitcoins aren’t real so no

>> No.18986330

>>18986294
Enough to go four scoops every day for the whole recession. Leave us all behind once it's over.

>> No.18986347

>>18986273
There is no reason to expect that the stock price will recover to Feb highs. The company might even with McDonnell Douglas trying to make as many mistakes as possible. But don't count on the stock doing the same thing.

>> No.18986372

>>18986190
How much cash are you looking to dump into real estate and what are you going to get into?

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>>18986259
>people are going to mind the deaths that much anymore
Its not enough death for people personally. It likely hasn't effected enough people yet.
>all the corps want waggies back to work,
They don't, they're worried about revenue. Odds are that they're will be hour cuts due to fear of overstaffing. The j knees that want shit open the most are states and Munis. They need tax revenue asap. Pensions are still being paid, UI funds getting depleted, no one wants their bonds and there's no way to repay them until things get moving again.

>>18986276
Yeah, it sucks. We're going to be low rates for a year + so if you're not going to need the money, consider some CDs for the short term, bonds for a longer term.

>> No.18986395

>>18985947
>bid my housemates farewell
glad to hear it

>>18986037
>"TINA" which is untrue imo
u wot

>> No.18986400

>>18986330
based

>> No.18986409

>>18986259
I can jive with that. Thats really what I am thinking to, but when you are around boomers daily you cannot really join that cult.

>> No.18986416

>>18986190
>boomer buffet is pretty much in cash
What are you talking about?

https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/BRK.B/balance-sheet

Total (long term) assets: 760,448.0
Total cash and ST investments: 137,263.0

>> No.18986423

>>18986150
Care to elaborate?

>> No.18986432

>that feel when last generation that will ever remember interest rates above 2%
Feels weird, man

>> No.18986435

>>18986190
>aquitted impeachment

No such thing bud

>> No.18986444

>>18986372
Probably about 25k for a down payment, assuming those first time home buyers loans will still let you get away with 3%. Otherwise I have about 80k that I should be able to tap when it's time.

>> No.18986445

How much time do you guys spend studying stocks? I feel like I spend 3-4 hours every day.

>> No.18986451

>>18986416
he is just repeating what his favorite zoomie youtube fag told him

>> No.18986464

>>18986445
i just eyeball the chart and buy some options lmao takes about 5 min

>> No.18986468

>>18986445
8-15 hours a day

not a joke

>> No.18986489

>>18985685

>1. Do you think we're heading towards a recession?

Right now we're going to see the market continue to inflate and the numbers will ignore the 'reality' of the situation we're in. Stocks will reach all time highs upon Trumps election and dip when COVID returns in the fall. Of course, 1-2 years into Trumps second term, we'll see the senate turn blue and some stupid military intervention. At this point, similar to the end of the W. years we'll see a pullback / extended recession.

>2. If so: when do you think we'll hit bottom?

What is "bottom" ? Retracing the low from March? We may hit that again when COVID surges again in the early winter / late fall. But in all honesty I'm not sure we'll see a dip that low again until a few years into Trump's term.

>3. If so: what do you think bottom will be? (for example: SPY 180)
DOW 22k maybe.

>4. If so: how long do you think the recession will last? 2-3 years.


Gotta love the dumbass bobo's thinking Trump won't do everything in his power to win the next election / that it doesn't largely hinge on the market.

>> No.18986496

>>18986468
Post your portfolio, fren.

>> No.18986499

>>18986445
a few hours looking at stocks spread across the day ngl.

>> No.18986503

>>18986445
Most of the time is spent up front in gaining initial knowledge and developing a strategy. Once you have that, it doesn’t suck up much of your time.

>> No.18986507

>>18986444
I also have about 80k I could dump into it. Obviously going to grab myself a place for myself since I moved somewhat recently to a new city.

Not sure if I should look at a secondary place to rent out like Vegas or Phoenix since those places were decimated last time. Not saying it will get that bad but it's crazy looking at housing history on Zillow. 2009-2010 was a blood bath.

Maybe I just horde cash. Not sure

>> No.18986511

>>18986028
Okie doke

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>there are people in this thread who still believe in the nothing burger

>> No.18986528

>>18986464
based

>> No.18986559

>>18986464
based gambler

>> No.18986566

>>18983697
shorts are great, bobos unitee

>> No.18986576

>>18986523
Bullish

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Movie night movie night! Tonight's feature is Africa Addio (1966) unless ppl think it's too long (2 hours) in which case I guess we can watch Scarface (1932)

>> No.18986604

>>18986523
Bearish

>> No.18986621

>>18986507
Buy a lot, pay cash, then build the smallest, sturdiest cuck shed rental you can.

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>>18986395
>gold
>bonds
>cash
Theres options here other than stocks, which are riskier than ever. For uneducated retail fags with 401(k)s, there may be nothing else, but bullshit on that for bigger players. And bullshit that there willing to... Never mind they're totally dumb enough to take that kind of risk.

>>18986416
>>18986451
It's record levels of cash. It seems like everyone is still screaming, hoping he'll buy something

>>18986507
I wish the best, I hope there will be a fire sale. I'm just looking to settle down a little.

>> No.18986649

Maybe I go all in draft kings. And then turn off my phone and look at it again in a year

>> No.18986654

>shifting to cash probably for a few months
>bonds are hot trash
Anyone have suggestions on a good high yield interest rate account? Literally all I know about is Ally.

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>>18986622
>It's record levels of cash. It seems like everyone is still screaming, hoping he'll buy something
Not if you look at just "cash and equivalents". The anime retard posted he's "pretty much in cash".

>> No.18986667

>>18986445
0 time. your time is best spent making money in what you're specialist at and yoloing on cool ticker names in the meanwhile.10-k and all that stuff is advertising material, you can write all kinds of shit there to make things look good. just imagine - you're working as a software engineer 14hrs a day, making 200-300k a year with nowhere to park it, cause you're living at your parents and don't engage in drugs or women. do you really want to spend your time 'researching' fictional bs? no. you buy AMZN, NVDA, MSFT and whatnot. so is everyone else, so these stocks will forever moon in a winner takes all economy

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Anyone playing LEAPs for airlines. I've been looking through the airline balance sheets for who is most likely to survive and it's likely either ALK, LUV, or BLU. Thinking about BLU 01/15/21 15c. I'm estimating a 7-10x return by October/November if airlines recover by then.

>>18986190
February was too late for New York. GOOG and the rest of tech were cancelling business trips in January. I think tech deserves more credit and I only added the government part as SF government sucks the teet of big tech.

In any case I believe had New York not dropped the ball so badly, there wouldn't be country wide shelter in place orders. You really only needed LA, SF & NY to shutdown as thats where most international visitors come from.

Also don't know what the impeachment stuff has to do with anything? This isn't /pol/ lol, I don't give a fuck about politics.

>>18986445
The more time I spend on research the more money I lose. I've made the most money buying suggestions on /smg/

>> No.18986679

>>18985934
So what happens if a company has a negative PE ratio?

>> No.18986686

>>18986679
>So what happens if a company has a negative PE ratio?
It's called Shopify.

>> No.18986689

>>18983843
Good puppers

>> No.18986695

>>18986621
Can you elaborate? Buy a lot of land?

>> No.18986711

>>18986622
Good luck to you too anon

>> No.18986717

>>18986679
It's called Uber

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>>18986654
>bonds are hot trash
Just dump it all on MSFT or QQQ lmao. 0 chance they have a negative return from now till October.

>>18986667
>don't engage in drugs or women
Why bother with stocks at all fi you aren't going to spend it. I can never tell if /smg/ is retarded day traders or boomer index fund babbys. If you are doing 0 research and you only buy long tech names, why come to this thread at all?

>> No.18986747

>>18986489
>The NBER defines a recession as a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales.
Anon, we are already at the start of the recession. It was self-inflicted, but there's nothing that can be done to stop it at this point, just soften the blow a little bit.

>Thinking that Trump won't do everything in his power to win the next election/that it doesn't largely hinge on the market.
It won't, and it would be a stretch to think that it does. By the time the election kicks into full swing, the economic impact will begin to be evident, and the fact that it will take longer than anticipated to recover will be accepted. Trump's administration has already accepted this fact, and will likely campaign on "an American comeback story." Can you imagine what the public disconnect would be while we're knee deep in a recession yet the markets are at all time highs and a candidate attempts to campaign on that? Do you think the average Joe is going to be glad that the Street is doing great but he's out of work?
http://archive.is/RE8e3

>Before the pandemic, the Trump campaign planned to showcase strong financial gains as the centerpiece of the president's 2020 pitch. Without that, his political aides have had to shift the narrative to an American comeback story, as opposed to a consistently booming message of prosperity.

>> No.18986749

>>18986654
Ally finna break. I guess it's kinda whatever 'cause FDIC but they're big into auto financing and have subprime lending for first time buyers along with a first-payment deferral plan. They've also seen a big uptick in people asking for delayed payments, 25% according to earnings.

>> No.18986780

>>18986660
>The anime retard
*you

>> No.18986783

>>18986728
>Just dump it all on MSFT or QQQ lmao. 0 chance they have a negative return from now till October.
If capital flies from Tech into the still depressed rest of the market then it will be a negative return if I want to pull out in October to something else.
Fuck it, I might just put it in JNJ.
> If you are doing 0 research and you only buy long tech names, why come to this thread at all?
/smg/ is the closest to an actual personal finance thread on the board. The rest is just pajeet crypto and biopenny PnDs

>> No.18986796

>>18983869
I have IRM. They've been gradually diversifying and do more more data storage in addition to physical paper storage, shredding, etc. Late to the party but better than never. Decent P/E but I think their debt is the biggest concern. Solid DIV.
Anyway, I have a small position I'm long on. Seeking Alpha usually has some thorough opinion pieces with a number of points/counterpoints in the comments.

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>>18986679
Then it's just negative. P/E ratio means little to nothing, for most clown car tech stocks. For some companies a negative P/E is noise, like in SaaS (for example $WORK). A company like Slack may have customer acquisitions costs in the millions, that don't full pay themselves back until year 4. So, imagine you run this company. It costs you $100 to acquire a customer that will pay you $25/year. So you spend $100/year on marketing, and every year you acquire 1 customer.

Year 1:
Revenue: $25
Cost: $100
Profit: -75

Year 2:
Revenue: $50
Cost: $100
Profit: -50

Year 5:
Revenue: $125
Cost: $100
Profit: Stock to the moon.

It doesn't always work out this way, but this is the basic math for SaaS companies, and pretty much every other tech company that invests heavily in marketing. Spending the money in marketing is a good investment because there is a consistent return - this is also called have good unit economics. Most investors will see this and say this company is worth a shitton despite having negative PE because they are still in a growth phase.

There are other companies, like UBER and LYFT that are valuable and have trash unit economics, or others like TSLA in which the unit economics don't support it's valuation. These companies are traded on hype, and stock market "fundementals" go out the window.

>> No.18986814

How does it feel knowing that prices changes are basically purely emotion driven since the surge of new investors since covid.
You could research 10 hours into a company and lose money vs some fancy tech company with a cool name that goes up

>> No.18986821

>>18986695
Look at the price spread on “cash only” homes, lots, and financable houses in your neighborhood. Bare lots are as close to “true value” as you can get because they are almost always a cash transaction, meaning if the housing market takes a shit you aren’t nearly as much in the hole as if you had bought that 1985 3bd/2br.

More importantly, if you want a rental, especially a first rental, you don’t want to inherit somebody else’s maintenance problem. The number one correlation between maintenance expense is number of occupants. You want some old fogie on a fixed income or single yuppie who works all the time.

If you let out a multibedroom unit as a first rental that shit will turn into a bro dude flop house or a daycare center for somebodies crotch fruit. Stick to single occupant units till you have a couple doors.

>> No.18986838

>>18986728
daytrading is most redpilled, since it's pure - the movement is all that matters, anything else is bs. but it's fake job, you're not producing anything of value (except maybe liquidity). and tools like jigsaw make it fun. so there are days i daytrade instead of playing gta. but there are days when you need to get real work done and that's when you yolo into blue chips
>Why bother with stocks at all fi you aren't going to spend it
to feel comfortable and relaxed during pandemics and freakouts? you have to be patient, when you're building your capital. you can go full charlie sheen later in life, when you join the bourgeoisie and leach off the plebs

>> No.18986848

>>18986676
Most airlines go bankrupt that's why you usually buy the big ones they are less likely to fail. All the ones you listed could go bankrupt come the fall.

>> No.18986868

>>18986814
Retail is a pathetically almost insignificant amount of volume on any large and most small cap stocks. Even with the dwindling overall volume.

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>>18986838
>but it's fake job, you're not producing anything of value
for you

>> No.18986919

>>18986821
Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it.

A buddy of mine has taken that approach and has a few places close to universities but only goes for 1 bed/bath places and about 500-800sqft so he can rent to a student and it's too small to throw a party. He's been lucky so far with not having tenants leave for the summer and they staying vacant for 3 months.

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>>18986464
lol same

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>> No.18986974

>>18986919
Having no lease for three months would be quite profitable actually. You can AirBnB.

>> No.18986992

>>18986974
Didn't even think about that. Smart

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>>18985974
COinbase apparently locked out users.
Panic sale.

>> No.18987043

Monday will be a blood bath

>> No.18987044

>>18986814
>You could research 10 hours into a company and lose money vs some fancy tech company with a cool name that goes up
It's been this way for at least a couple years now. Look no further than AMD and TSLA.

>>18986838
I misspoke, I don't full time day trade - I work in tech. I get up at 6:30, make a couple options plays before heading into work, then at lunch time I close out or make more trades. For retirement money, I just use the companies 401k match policy as the 100% gain on the match will offset and potential gains I could from directly investing in QQQ.

That said, my issue is with just YOLOing into blue chip tech stocks. If you are going to invest like a boomer, I don't think that's worth posting about - it's boring. Maybe I'm the more speculative side of /smg/, as I treat it as a giant casino rather than as a way to earn a living.

>>18986848
Southwest is 50 years old and has never gone bankrupt. Alaska is even older. Both have, currently 1-1.2x assets to debt ratio. DAL, AAL, and UAL have 3x or worse. Not to mention those 3 have already been bankrupted once, and from the balance sheet have the highest change of going bankrupt again. I think Jet Blue or Alaska are best poised to take over the market is any one of the super majors kick the bucket - and I think Alaska is more likely to - as they already acquired Virgin who has many of those routes.

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>> No.18987094

>>18987043
that's what you niggas were saying last week.

>> No.18987114

>>18984470
does anyone here actually sell naked calls? All it takes is one stroke of bad luck and you're gigafucked.

>> No.18987124

>>18987114
I don't.

>> No.18987130

>>18987094
Funny thing, there was a pretty big gap down Sunday night in futures, and then a few hours after they opened, they started pumping up until the +1.X% we saw at open Monday morning.

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>>18987022
>mfw I have $12k in a gold streaming equity swing and it could go either way, either way.

>> No.18987163

>>18987130
I think the down was due to buffet’s assessment and the up was due to trump saying we would have a vaccine before year end.

I’m starting to wonder if futures are being manipulated bc For the last couple weeks all the gains in the market are made after the close and loses happen during market hours.

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>>18984027
You all know what's going down come Monday

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>>18984434
Absolutely.

>> No.18987209

>>18987163
Yeah, I figured they started pumping due to the townhall. I wasn't able to watch it live, so I didn't work back to correlate the timing.

>>18987188
Dubs of truth.

>> No.18987215
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>>18987135
Relax, emotions get in the way of making sound decisions.

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>>18987163
>For the last couple weeks all the gains in the market are made after the close and loses happen during market hours.
>all
No.

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>>18983926
don't use P/E. It doesn't matter except to know if a stock is good. If it's 20-30 min that's good, but not a major factor.
Use EPS growth per quarter. Take the most recent EPS reported. compare it to the same quarter from last year. If it's grown at least 20% it's a good buy.

t. resurrected ghost of a dead rich boomer

>> No.18987244

>>18987208
Okay, sorry for being like this, but how do you call on Robinhood?

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>> No.18987268

>>18987188
I went all in on puts right before Powell announced he was buying junk bonds starting the rally.
Options are expiring next week. I lost 10k. Not sure what to do.

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>>18986780
I don't think boomer buffet could sell half his shit if he tried. Either way, it's a near record amount, sue me faggot.

>>18987225
It's enough times. We'll see if the trend continues. Futures seem to be dictating things.

>> No.18987286

>>18987225
I was speaking in generalities dumb ass.

>> No.18987288

>bitcoin crashing
>GEX index sharply went down despite a 2% rally
>jobs report told the PPT that all of 2020 is bad and manipulating the market won't revive stocks.

Yeah I'm thinking red monday

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just set up a moving average and trade when it trends up holy shit lmao you make +10% every week minimum like god damn people are just desinted to remain poor forever

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>>18987244
Profile (bottom right) > investing > turn on options (near bottom)

>> No.18987323

>>18987295
Was right there in front of me. thanks!

>> No.18987325

>>18987093
Pretty bullish desu

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>>18987244
Do you know what you’re doing?

>> No.18987347

Think VIX or TVIX are ever going to go up again?
We're perpetually green so I'm just not seeing it

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>>18986966
>Canadian lab
>Israeli Canadian brothers
>Trudy has not once condemned the chinese
>Trudy has been sending aid to the chinese

Really makes a man hmmmmm

Who’s buttering Trudy’s bread? He can’t be just coasting on his father’s trust fund and whatever paper PM’s make.

Though I’m sure he and the bush boys and all the other political royalty are set for life. If baron is half as savvy a weasel as Ivanka is, they could be the next Kennedy family.

>> No.18987355

>>18987093
the corona virus is RACIST!

>> No.18987381

>>18987347
Yes.

Btc and stocks are tied together now and btc is now dumping, having briefly hit 7k again.

The GEX indicator just shot down while the s&p went up 2%. It only does that before a sell off.

>> No.18987392

>>18987225
>>18987163
SPX Close 5/7: 2881.19
SPX Open 5/8: 2908.83
SPX Close 5/8: 2929.8

Gain (with respect to previous day's close) due to movements outside of regular market hours: +0.96%
Gain (as above) due to movements inside of market hours on 5/8: +0.73%
Total Gain: +1.69%, 57% of which came from outside of regular market hours, 43% of which came from regular market hour movement.

How does that compare to the last month? Slightly higher than usual for market hours movements. On average, market hours movements contribute only 29% of the total daily gain or loss for any given day between 4/8 and 5/8.

>> No.18987393

Give me your best REITs. Preferably $5-$15 range.

>> No.18987410

>>18987288
spy closed above the 291 resistance on Friday which pretty much confirms green

>> No.18987420

>>18987410
>muh magic number
There's no such thing as a resistance.

>> No.18987432

>>18987355
Pretty obvious that it’s economically and geographically biased.

People who are getting infected at this point are largely “essential workers” and those who come into contact with them. Basically the poors. Who do you think is stocking shelves and packing boxes?

And the poor blacks have more diabetes and shit. (Wealthy blacks not so much.)

>> No.18987464

>>18987432
actually niggers are genetically more vulnerable to a cytokine storm. this has been studied and documented in the past.

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>Constantly switch between "Its all gonna tank. The economy is in the shitter and credit defaults are happening and will happen." and "Fed gonna pump. Stocks only go up lmao"
I cant tell if we go up 10% next week or down 10%.
This isnt healthy.

>> No.18987468

>>18987420
ok, look at the options chain on spy for next week and then report back

>> No.18987489

>>18987464
Anecdotally they completely ignore social distancing. I think this has to be a bigger factor. Also the obesity means when they get it they die more often.

>> No.18987490

>>18987420
TA bullshit can become a self fulfilling prophecy if enough people believe it though

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>weekend bear cope
yikes
see you trannies on monday

>> No.18987499

>>18987393
COLD
AMT
Maybe something like equinix

Preferably you don’t buy stocks because they’re less than $15 a share and do whatever you have to do to get fractional shares or something.

Those “cheap” stocks are real popular with the robinhood crowd, and they’re a trap.

>> No.18987501

>>18987465
Welcome to volatility. Great for traders. Lousy for investors.

>> No.18987517

>>18987465
You gotta be more zen about it than that. The market is like water... one days it’s a lacy river, the next it surges in a torrent or falls like a waterfall. Your job is not to fight the flow.

>> No.18987538

>>18987465
Both statements are true. The former is going to happen for something like the next 1 to 3 years. The latter will be temporary and make the crash landing a lot slower.

>> No.18987548

>>18987489
it's probably all 3. there isn't a huge difference in rate of obesity between blacks, hispanics and whites. blacks are 48%, hispanics 44% and whites 42%

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>>18987491

>> No.18987567

>>18987491
I went all in on TVIX and am down 30% for all time. However I believe this is the week.

Screenshot this post and post it friday

>> No.18987568

>>18987489
Poor whites also do that though, who do you think spread the #boycottcostco bullshit?

>>18987464
That’s entirely possible because muh genetics but it’s also possible that it’s something for minorities to tout as another injustice and it’s something many incels want to be true and that biases your perception.

Do we have any data on british blacks?

>> No.18987573

>>18987499
How do I get fractional shares? I didn't know that was possible. If so, I will buy a bunch of $FANG.

>Those “cheap” stocks are real popular with the robinhood crowd, and they’re a trap.

Can you expound?

>> No.18987579

>>18987465
>>18987491
>>18987410

BTC tanking is pretty bearish. I think a lot of the big guys are delusional at this point. For one if it shits the bed there will be mass lay offs in the financial industry like in 2008. They are personally very invested in stocks moving up

I'm fucked if it doesn't dip next week. Honestly I have no idea. It probably wont tank. However I think the chances of another tank before September are super high. Fall is when the second wave starts. If the massive global depression we are entering doesn't tank the economy the second wave will.

>> No.18987584

AYTU started to pump friday...

>> No.18987599

>>18987393
O
DLR
STAG

>> No.18987634

>>18987579
Why are you such a doomer its not the black death it's a fucking cold. Only reason it crashed in the first place was because boomers are removing all their money and burning it

>> No.18987636

>>18987579
Btc and the market are literally correlated

If btc is hard dumping so sill the market. Expect red monday

>> No.18987637

>>18987579
there is a case to be made for bears. but you have to play what is in front of you and right now the stock market is bullish. the likelihood of spy hitting 300 is higher than the likelihood of spy hitting 280 right now. It will switch to bear at some point, probably in the coming weeks, but this won't happen next week unless there is a huge bad news wave, something really really bad.

>> No.18987645

>>18987634
there will be shutdowns and restrictions with every wave, to protect the vulnerable. its not the black death but its not a cold either

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BLoody red??

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>>18987501
Meh
I invest long term and sell options on my stocks. Its ok.
Im thinking of putting another 30k or so in from my gold holdings. Every top is just tomorrows dip.
>>18987538
I dont even know. I knew something was up by February and bailed before the crash. It feels similiar to that again now.
>>18987579
>Want to renew pass
>Install coinbase
>Buy 20 Euro of BTC
>Want to buy pass
>Price drops so fast that I already cant anymore
Crypto is a scam imo
Its backed by nothing but people hoping that others buy in. Not a physical company like stocks or even FIAT, which is backed by a central bank being able to short supply and increase demand by selling dollars, gold and euros.

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Thoughts on picking up hospitality REITs on the cheap for the long term? Stuff like APLE

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>>18986028
What exactly am I supposed to be looking at here

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>>18987548
hmm, I thought it was more than that. Maybe there is a bigger difference at the far end? Morbid obesity is much higher in blacks.
https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/diacare/36/10/3033/F1.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1

One thing that's funny about blacks is if you break it down by gender their woman are ridiculously fat.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/figures/m6107qsf.gif

>> No.18987720

>>18987568
nah dude that's just what you see on TV poor whites live in rural areas where virus will never be a problem anyway. Go to a city center like NY right now and the people congregating are all blacks.

>> No.18987721

>>18987696
A lottery ticket.

>> No.18987742

>>18987645
Look at the facts it's a coronavirus which is a cold if the news wasnt blasting fear mongering propaganda nobody's life would have changed. Clearly there is more behind this then just a pathetic cold

>> No.18987744

>>18987696
Who the fuck is pumping Wayfair that hard?

>> No.18987774

>>18987645
I don't think so. People are starting to realize that the shut down in NYC was actually pointless and look at Sweden's success. the shut downs were based on models of a 3.6% fatality rate that predicted millions of americans dead already.

>> No.18987795

>>18987742
dude MERS is a coronavirus too

>> No.18987798

>>18987720
actually has more to do with education and net worth than race. i live in 80% white 3rd world and 100% of the poor ones have nigger mentality. rich uneducated often have nigger mentality too.

>> No.18987809

>>18987634
The only reason we arn't seeing way more death is due to lockdown.

It's not about how bad the virus is it's about the massive bubbles that have built up in the economy and the end of globalization as an economic paradigm.

The first derivative on economic globalization has shifted from positive to negative. supply chains will begin to reshore and markets are closing down. In the short run this will create massive inefficiencies. Don't get me wrong I agree with the move and I'm happy about it, but it will create massive economic disruption at a time when the economy is already extremely shaky.

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>>18987668
Wow, you have no understanding of blockchains. I am absolutely amazed by you.

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>there will be shutdowns and restrictions with every wave, to protect the vulnerable. its not the black death but its not a cold either

>> No.18987836

>>18987798
obviously there are edge cases. I'm speaking in generalities.

>> No.18987839

>>18987774
>People are starting to realize that the shut down in NYC was actually pointless and look at Sweden's success
What success? They achieved 5 times higher per capita death rate than Finland.

>> No.18987862

>>18987839
Also sweden is way more shut down than some media sources make it seem. They are doing a ton of mitigation stuff, but it fits with certain libertarian narratives to say they arn't doing anything.

Also sweden is not a dense country.

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>>18987824
>Wow, you have no understanding of blockchains.
I dont. 0.
I also dont hold currencies or equities that have no practical use, are backed by nothing and could drop by 90% tomorrow.
>I am absolutely amazed by you.
Thanks

>> No.18987877

>>18987637
It's not bullish, it's frozen. There's so much shit that isn't recovered it isn't even funny. NYA shows the crab battle.

>> No.18987900

>>18987877
NYA and the Russell have been crabbing since mid april. The current market is weighted so heavily towards the Dow, SPY, and Nasdaq its ridiculous

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>pssst, hey kid, can I buy your SPY puts?

>> No.18987931

>>18987809
It's a fucking hoax they are labeling everyone who coughs once or twice as a covid death. They did a antibody test in a prison and every inmate had covid but they didn't even realize. We got too cocky with trying to raise area 51 this is just a hoax to remove our rights.

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Wait a minute... isn’t vitamin d something black people have a much harder time making in higher latitudes (during times when they’re not allowed to leave the house anyway)?

Who’s gonna make money off all this vitamin d and zinc? Vitamin shoppe?

>>18987824
I mean... I don’t either, I assume it’s nigga technology.

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>>18987295
>tattoos
Ruined.

I still want it though. So bad.

>> No.18987990

NEW
>>18987988
>>18987988
>>18987988

>> No.18987993

>>18987931
not a hoax. Excess deaths are way up in areas with heavy covid presence
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-death-toll-us.html

Understand test specificity is very low. A lot of results are being misinterpret in a way that makes it seem many more people have had covid than is the case.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitivity_and_specificity

>> No.18988035

>>18987993
Didnt the nytimes even call it bullshit back in january?

>> No.18988156

>>18987839
yes 5x5 may equal 25, who cares?

>>18987862
i am very aware of what sweden is doing.

>> No.18988165

>>18988035
No that’s retarded. Maybe some op-ex cùcktard called it a hoax.

You probably think it’s a hoax because of how convenient it is, but it only looks so convenient because the government of every large country is going to use it to their advantage, and it looks like they might even have mismanaged it deliberately.

This is because they have smart people on their payroll, and they know to never waste a crisis. I think that’s even a saying in the world of spooks.

I can’t believe no one remembers the fucking patriot act and “see-something say-something.”

>> No.18988175

>>18985081
Society got worse after every one of the panels in the exact context the panel is highlighting.
>unintentionally redpilled

>> No.18988205

>>18988165
"The fear of the coronavirus is deadlier the virus itself" - nytimes

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>>18988205
Uhhhh okay?
The fear is almost always worse than the disaster, except before people realize how bad it is. Fear needs to be bigger than a threat because it’s better to overprepare than underprepare, it’s a line of thinking that has an evolutionary advantage as long as you don’t overdo it.

>> No.18988964

Hello /smg/. I'm a poorfag with 500€ worth of net worth so to speak. Where do I start with learning about investments