/smg/ Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.18978316]

Manganese edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq (embed)

>Stock market Words
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ (embed)

>Risk Management
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp (embed)

>Educational Sites
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://nhentai.net/tag/handholding

>Free Charts
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/

>Screeners
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live Data
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) Calculator
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings
https://fintel.io/

>Misc
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com

>>18972599

[Anonymous No.18978337]

>>18978316
They had telephones in 1917?

[Anonymous No.18978382]

I literally got fucked yesterday. And not in a good way.

[Anonymous No.18978394]

What is this pattern called?

[Anonymous No.18978397]

>>18978382
im with you bro, trying to work on my psychology as well

[Anonymous No.18978398]

>>18978227
>>18978301 (You)
So is this the only argument? Obviously leveraged shit has higher downside risk but with even the most volatile market going up in the long run, it seems like the obvious play.

It's the equivalent of some real estate fag buying 10 houses on credit and becoming a millionaire in a few years, just without the hassle.

If you believe don't believe in QQQ going up, why holding QQQ? What's its advantage over TQQQ?

[Anonymous No.18978421]

>Economic devistation
>Record unemployment
>Increasing mortgage forbearance
>Massive impending bankruptcies
>Stocks go up
*sips*

[Anonymous No.18978426]

>>18978421
>>18978013

[Anonymous No.18978428]

>>18978398
decay faget

[Anonymous No.18978448]

>>18978337
AT&T was the OG tech startup.

[Anonymous No.18978467]

>>18978398
How does this fund remain financially viable? I understand decay impact on SQQQ, but how can this fund pay out people with this type of returns?

[Anonymous No.18978474]

>>18978448
Bell was a sperg
The first thing that was ever said on the telephone was something like "Come help! I've spilled acid on myself"

[Anonymous No.18978481]

>>18978398
Like I said in the other thread, volatility drag. If a leveraged ETF goes down by 5% then it'd need to go up by 5.26% to get back up to the same point. Over the long-term the drag will fuck you in the ass. You never hold leveraged ETFs long-term, just a stupid idea.

[Anonymous No.18978493]

>>18978398
tqqq only goes up because bull run and because major indices have low volatility due to call writing and gamma hedging. jnug doesn't look that nice at all. It's all just wishful thinking and selection bias.

[Anonymous No.18978497]

>>18978426
I hope you are not the thread originator. You sound dumb as fuck. But yeah, everything back to normal right now.

>1/3

[Anonymous No.18978499]

>>18978426
Ok, but in 15 years, it will be $20, so why isn't it $20 right now?

[Anonymous No.18978515]

>>18978497
>2/3

[Anonymous No.18978526]

Shill me on MITT and RWT. Will they recover to pre corona levels or go down even more? They were a steady asset for years before the lockdown and I was interested in buying them for a long term hold. Now for some reason I’m worried they may never recover.

[Anonymous No.18978528]

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

[Anonymous No.18978539]

>>18978515
>3/3

Biggest overvaluation of stocks right now. Good luck to everyone. Fun time ahead.

[Anonymous No.18978550]

>>18978499
Speculating 1 year into the future is much easier and safer than speculating 10 or 15 years into the future.

[Anonymous No.18978559]

>>18978539
is it too early to buy puts ? shall we wait until elections?

[Anonymous No.18978560]

>>18978539
ok doomie thx

[Anonymous No.18978564]

>>18978497
If "12m Fwd EPS" means "12 MONTHS forward earnings per share" I think you missed the point.
This was panic selling and if anything it shouldn't have gone so low.

[Anonymous No.18978569]

>>18978398

i prefer 2x leveraged ETFs if i'm going to day trade them. 3x just gets away from me too fast since i'm not sitting there monitoring it for the whole day

[Anonymous No.18978587]

>>18978497
>>18978515
>>18978539
You're a retard. No one cares about your bullshit Technical Analysis. Take that snake oil to /r/investing.

[Anonymous No.18978593]

Talk me out of buying 5k in July 35 july vix puts

[Anonymous No.18978615]

>>18978593
Make your own decisions, not going to do your work for you.

[Anonymous No.18978639]

>>18978615
TALK ME OUT OF IT PLEASE

[Anonymous No.18978667]

>>18978474
No no no, it was
>”ahoy-hoy, Come help! I've spilled acid on myself"

>>18978528
Hot chip... man that’s going back a ways.
Elliott smith duck was the best one so far since it’s exactly what you’d listen to while crying alone.

[Anonymous No.18978673]

>>18978587
How is anything about that TA? Are you fucking retarded?

>>18978560
Thanks for your input sir. How is a correction doomie style? New understanding of free markets, where everything is to go up up and up is very interesting. Fucking zoomers are worse than boomers.

>>18978559
Wait for a clear trend. If SPY breaks out of 295, buy calls, if SPY breaks below 279 buy puts.

>>18978564
Are you retarded? EPS will stay low for several quarters, most of the business wont recover due to lack of consumer confidence / lack of money and fucking shortages of supply.

[Anonymous No.18978682]

>>18978539

the fuck is this chart talking about? Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Alphabet, and Facebook all trade on the NASDAQ, not the SP500.

[Anonymous No.18978689]

>>18978331
Don't listen to any of the retards who responded to you. You're on the right track with the leveraged ETFs, especially TQQQ and UPRO. Buy in and get rich. Leave the naysayers in the dust

[Anonymous No.18978696]

>>18978673
>Are you retarded? EPS will stay low for several quarters, most of the business wont recover due to lack of consumer confidence / lack of money and fucking shortages of supply.
>several quarters
I'm fine with earnings being down for several quarters if that means I can buy at a 30% discount when I intent to hold over 30 years

[Anonymous No.18978699]

>>18978673
HURR DURR EPS EXPECTATIONS NOT TA

[Anonymous No.18978702]

invest in fumo

[Anonymous No.18978705]

>>18978593
A better decision would be to throw it in UPRO or something. The risk of a short term volatility spike fucking you up by your sell date is simply too great

[Anonymous No.18978706]

>>18978593
Because they’re $8.50/contract and we could easily have another leg down in the market. But you do you man

[Anonymous No.18978709]

>>18978682
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S%26P_500_companies

Ladies and gentlemen. The average /biz/ user.

>>18978696
That your previous point was interesting...

[Anonymous No.18978710]

>>18978673
Everyone knows reopening is soon, oil prices are going up and things are returning to normal which means we're on tract for more good economic and market returns under Trump. Libtards like you are seething at the fact that this whole charade didn't wreck the economy enough to give Biden a chance to win.

[Anonymous No.18978716]

>muh volatility decay
SSO (DBPG for euroanons) is a 2x leveraged ETF based on the S&P 500 and it is one of the few leveraged ETFs that existed before the Great Financial Crisis of 2008. Had you bought SSO (DBPG) at the literal top of the market before the recession in October 2007, as of this moment, you would have gains of 176%. Had you bought the underlying SPY on the same day you would have gains of 98%. So had you bought the leveraged ETF, even at the worst possible time, you still would have ended up with almost double the gains.
Remember this the next time somebody throws shade on leveraged ETFs because of volatility decay. Buy the index based leveraged ETFs and win. Simple as that. And start buying now. Coronavirus could be as bad as the GFC and if you start buying in now with a little money and buy in more later as the prices drop you will still come out much better in the long run than buying SPY or worse doing nothing at all. I'm buying and I'll be here when this thing is over to brag about my gains. Do not be afraid. We will get through this and this is your opportunity. Join me and get rich.
>nb4 >we

[Anonymous No.18978721]

>>18978682
Do you know what the S&P500 is?

[Anonymous No.18978722]

>>18978682
Jesus Christ, anon. How do you not know what the fuck the most popular index is?

[Anonymous No.18978727]

>>18978564
Nigger, do you even know what 'forward' means? Here's a hint: it doesn't mean 'backward'.

[Anonymous No.18978742]

>>18978682
Bro... what...

You might be confused about the nasdaq stock exchange vs the nasdaq composite index.

And you should note that Microsoft and Apple are some of the largest stocks on all three indices (Dow, S&P, and Nasdaq)

[Anonymous No.18978748]

Imagine if every ID had a TTM % return next to it

[Anonymous No.18978763]

>>18978716
You speak convincingly, merchant.

[Anonymous No.18978772]

>>18978710
Luckily nobody is unemployment and nobody had to file bankruptcy. Now we can go back to normal.

[Anonymous No.18978780]

So I know the adult film industry is up, but with physical stuff closed is now the time to invest in fetish shops and stuff, or are they all selling online and booming?
What are some solid buys for lewd stocks that are down currently but will bounce on reopen?

[Anonymous No.18978800]

>>18978772
>nobody is going back to work after temproary layoffs
yikes

[Anonymous No.18978811]

Friendly reminder that the GEX index went down sharply Friday despite a 2% rally in the s&p500.

This has indicated huge downturns. When the VIX is higher, it usually happens the next day. Expect a deep red monday

[Anonymous No.18978815]

>>18978780
You’re smart to try to convert your interests to gains, but you’re thinking too much with your dick, coomer.

[Anonymous No.18978824]

You guys write pretty good FUD.

[Anonymous No.18978832]

>>18978811
Unfriendly reminder that it was not a “sharp drop”

[Anonymous No.18978838]

>>18978811
Whenever I walk on cracks on the sidewalk, the markets tend to go down the next day. Expect a red day on Monday.

[Anonymous No.18978842]

>>18978710
>oil prices are going up and things are returning to normal
AAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

[Anonymous No.18978850]

>>18978316
Do i dare betting against the printer this monday?

[Anonymous No.18978854]

Markets should trade on weekends. Let’s make it happen

[Anonymous No.18978856]

>>18978772
Yeah, more bankrupt businesses means the ones still in the stock market will, uh, have less market share and revenue apiece and so their stocks will fall, right? And meanwhile those poor terminally unemployed people will stay neet forever and never get another job, and Walmart won't be hiring

[Anonymous No.18978871]

>>18978800
>implying 100% will go back to work
yikes
>Ignoring record high bankruptcies

>https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2020/05/catastrophic-wave-of-bankruptcies-is-about-to-flood-the-usa/

Objectively the economical damage is done, nobody cares about your political ideology.

[Anonymous No.18978873]

What do I buy to best take advantage of the leg down? SQQQ?

[Anonymous No.18978890]

>>18978854
There used to be a Saturday session until 1952

[Anonymous No.18978897]

>>18978873
All in on TVIX. 1000% gainz guaranteed

[Anonymous No.18978898]

>>18978873
Tvix. However the next spike will only range from 700 to 800 due to decay. Know to sell it when it spikes. It won't stay up.

[Anonymous No.18978906]

>>18978811
What is the GEX index?

[Anonymous No.18978909]

>>18978689
Don't know if you are genuine, but I just put 10% of my networth into TQQQ on my second portfolio. Not looking at it again until 2027.

[Anonymous No.18978917]

>>18978906
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=GEX+index

[Anonymous No.18978928]

>>18978871
>look at my fake news website
>the strongest economy ever is definitely going bankrupt because a few service workers wont get rehired immediately
you're so dumb, go back and watch the big short and pretend like youre a retard savant

[Anonymous No.18978932]

>>18978909
I am 100% genuine and you will be very happy you did.

[Anonymous No.18978936]

>>18978897
>>18978898
I don't know, TVIX falls too fast for my liking. I'm not too convinced of my ability to time things perfectly.

[Anonymous No.18978938]

>>18978742
>You might be confused about the nasdaq stock exchange vs the nasdaq composite index.

yep thanks

[Anonymous No.18978954]

>>18978815
But a lot of boomers and schizoid numales are afraid of those stocks or won't think of them so it could be big gains. Besides I want a smooth segue to convincing my gf to try some shibori and plugs and she's profit-sexual so showing her some nice tensile gains on a spicy symbol would fit the bill
Reveal your secrets to me /biz/

[Anonymous No.18978958]

>>18978871
You realize you're falling for the most basic fallacy? Confirmation bias will fuck you in the ass. Stop Googling things to fit your investing agenda you dummy.

[Anonymous No.18979002]

>>18978909
>Not looking at it again until 2027.

it's not going to be there by the time you look at it again, lol. 3x leveraged ETFs are meant to be day traded bro, not held for periods of time

[Anonymous No.18979063]

>>18978426

[Anonymous No.18979095]

>Zoome P/E: 1816
>MSFT: 31
>AAPL: 24.3
I got it boy. The quick rich scheme
>buy mid range work laptop with free zoom subscription
>throw out useless computer
>sell zoom subscription
I'll remember you when I am sitting in my mansions

[Anonymous No.18979117]

>>18979095
Haha epic, can I post this on Reddit?

[Anonymous No.18979123]

>>18979095
Ok, why wouldn't a long/short work with buying a tech ETF and shorting Zoom work?

[Anonymous No.18979149]

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TALK ME OUT OF BUYING ALL-IN 35$ JULY VIX PUTS

[Anonymous No.18979169]

>>18978928
>strongest economy ever
>profitability flatline since 2012
How about no?

>parabolic movement in money supply
>convex parabola in consumer confidence and unprecedented decline in consumer spending

[Anonymous No.18979180]

>>18979123
Passive investor index funds and ETF have rebalanced all of the big 3 and anything tied to them. Everything else has been crabbing since mid april. Because Zoom is part of the Nasdaq, it HAS to remain at its current level because all the index funds are back in to nearly previous levels.
Shorting Zoom is shorting the Nasdaq which is really shorting passive investing.

[Anonymous No.18979185]

>>18978008
You're in the game, you gotta keep playing. Maybe take a break for a few weeks or months, but come back at it fresh and chip away until you make it back. Don't be afraid to ditch losers and be sure to take gains when you have them. It's an expensive lesson but now you can think back to that pain when you are second guessing cutting losses or taking gains when you're up. It is hard to go against your acquired habits but if you can do that then you can get back in profit.

[Anonymous No.18979191]

>>18978854
Trading of equities is for landed gentry, not you troglodyte gamblers. We do business during proper hours. Only the proles work on Sunday.

[Anonymous No.18979200]

>>18978811
Neck yourself, bobo. Monday will be green again

[Anonymous No.18979202]

>>18978928

[Anonymous No.18979212]

>>18979149
Do it.

[Anonymous No.18979215]

>>18979149
Just do it and stfu

[Anonymous No.18979221]

im really nervous holding DAL stock right now. wtf was i thinking

[Anonymous No.18979225]

>>18979202

[Anonymous No.18979260]

>>18979225
Remember the bear market of 2010? No? Neither do I. What's your fucking point?

[Anonymous No.18979268]

>>18979221
How much you got?

[Anonymous No.18979290]

there will be a J shaped recovery.

the PRC is going the way of enron.

[Anonymous No.18979295]

>>18979180
>Shorting Zoom is shorting the Nasdaq which is really shorting passive investing.

couldnt you just short the individual Zoom stock? not the whole nasdaq

[Anonymous No.18979304]

>>18979002
Christ I hate you retards, I'm going to prove you so wrong, here's 1, compare to 97% on QQQ.

[Anonymous No.18979330]

>>18979002
Compare this one to 39% on SPY

[Anonymous No.18979334]

>>18979260
>cope level: copus maximus

[Anonymous No.18979336]

>>18978917
Nothing in the seach results is about gex.
It's in the op though.
>>18978906
https://squeezemetrics.com/download/white_paper.pdf
Read this, Anon.

[Anonymous No.18979342]

>>18978481
This is true if you believe QQQ is going to crab for a long time. If it tends to go up most of the time, the decay works in your favor. Please don't post if you have <75IQ

[Anonymous No.18979346]

>>18978064
Unironically, yes. But you might as well keep dancing for now. There are sore points within the economy that will be made worse by what's coming and nobody knows how markets will react.

Look at the credit card and auto loan delinquency rates, which have been on the rise prior to this year. Banks have an estimated $4T exposure to credit card debt alone. Both markets have fallen into the same type of predatory sub-prime lending behavior that the housing market did prior to the GFC.

Look at corporate debt, which has ballooned due to low rates and (within the last few years) loosened credit restrictions. It posed a risk prior to the CV shocks, and ended up playing a part in the downturn that we saw in March and the Fed's actions thereafter. Ironically, the Fed's posturing that it would buy corporate debt through its SPVs created a rebound, with companies piling even more debt on top of the existing debt they had accrued. Investors were front-running the Fed, expecting to flip for a profit once the SMCCF started its purchases. As of this past week, and despite the Fed restating their commitment to said purchases, this has yet to occur. We'll have to see how it plays out, but unraveling of the extended debt bubble will only hurt more so than before.

Additionally, a slow down in economic growth had already begun as of a year ago, if not longer, and will naturally be made much worse by the record unemployment and other compounding factors we'll be experiencing for the next several years. The debt issue mentioned above will only exacerbate the growth issue, as each additional dollar of debt (private, public, government, or total, there are different metrics) over a certain threshold will result in less economic growth, i.e., diminishing returns.

Consumer sentiment and personal consumption expenditures have already noticeably decreased. The coming unemployment will put a huge dent in spending, which will be another drag on the corporate and economic rebound.

[Anonymous No.18979350]

>>18979260
What's it like being a fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.18979351]

>>18979295
Not him but you need to re-read and take basmisanil

[Anonymous No.18979352]

>>18979268
just under $2000, i bought on thursday tho so i like to think I'm in a good position as long as Pfizer actually gets a working vaccine

[Anonymous No.18979371]

>>18979002
Compare to -34% on the DOW.

[Anonymous No.18979374]

>>18978682
kys retard

[Anonymous No.18979380]

>>18979350
Brother, 2009 to the start of 2020 was the longest bull run in capitalist history. You are proving fucking nothing with these pointless charts. What the fuck are you even trying to say?

[Anonymous No.18979386]

>>18979352
I, too, bet my lifesavings that random companies are going to develop vaccines against the common cold (a holy grail that has been tirelessly attempted since near the beginning of biology and medicine).

[Anonymous No.18979395]

boys how the FUCK do i get good level 2 data without paying $200 a month?

[Anonymous No.18979406]

>>18978873
A leg down will not be coming anyime soon. You're best off riding the wave on tech

[Anonymous No.18979426]

>>18979334
considering how wrong bobos like you have been lately i think the only one coping is you, enjoy losing in november and watching ATH

[Anonymous No.18979437]

>>18979386
bro I get flu vaccines every year

[Anonymous No.18979452]

>>18978526
High risk of bankruptcy, high reward if they don't, they also tend to have great dividend yields. I am currently split between RWT, NRZ, MFA and MITT. MITT recently dropped 30% in a day when they put some of their assets up for sale.

[Anonymous No.18979458]

>>18979437
Why yes, I too believe that the flu and the common cold are the same thing.

[Anonymous No.18979483]

>>18979386
>are going to develop vaccines against the common cold
but mutation rates aren't high and I haven't read anything about COVID9 having an untreatable dormant/latent stage like HIV

[Anonymous No.18979512]

>>18978398
>>18978467
TQQQ has had 5 1to2 splits since 2011. So that guy saying ZOMFG 2000% returns! You have to multiply the 2011 price times 10. So in 2011 the current chart shows $3, but back then the chart read $30. Now TQQQ is $75, so you'd basically have 250% gains... same as QQQ.

TQQQ is for taking advantage of short term acceleration in trends. When it gets too high they split it and give you more shares.

[Anonymous No.18979516]

>>18973821
I would like to make a deposit on her soles

[Anonymous No.18979527]

>>18979483
Indeed, how could you tell I believe that the common cold and HIV are the same thing?

[Anonymous No.18979539]

>>18979386
a SARS vaccine was developed but SARS died out before it could be deployed.

i unironically believe the same will happen to covid. mutations will turn it into even more of a nothingburger.

[Anonymous No.18979544]

>>18979380
It's also retard strength and speculation that brought it up to those highs through magical inflationary pressure and maximizing consumer and commercial credit offerings while maintaining near-zero interest. Meanwhile the instant we start to move to unwind the repo operations that have been keeping shit afloat since the GFC, the shit hits the fan. Mind you, CP corporate profit after tax has totally stagnated since 2012. Oh and PE off the fucking charts, so the whole market is actually a fucking popularity contest more than investing.

[Anonymous No.18979551]

>>18979527
kek anon i am done with u

[Anonymous No.18979552]

>>18976393
that comparison is so fucking stupid. hornet stings don't overwhelm hospitals.

[Anonymous No.18979562]

>>18979002
What's the downside to just buying in, parking it there with a pending stop loss to trigger the moment it dips below x%, then buying in again at y% below your exit point? I'm missing something

[Anonymous No.18979577]

>this endless shitfit about the market because its really a thinly veiled political cheerleading competition
The market is not the economy. The economy is not the market. For a while it was a good indicator of the economy because it was tied fundamentally to assets such as indirectly from the GDP. QE has decoupled this reliance to be weak at best.
Trying to bring the economy into the market will fail. Trying to think the market is good/bad for the economy will fail.
I am bearish on literally everything about the economy except the market because there is NOWHERE ELSE for capital to go to except gold (and that is hedging against the collapse of the dollar) and bitcoin (still unproven).
Permabulls are retards for not having pulled out money back in March but because inflation is now baked into the economy out of necessity it will (generally) always be rising reflecting overall inflation.

[Anonymous No.18979578]

Any vaccine made won't be out till least 2021 at the earliest. Which by that point it may be useless or the demand lower cause look at what's happening now; country is moving in full on re-open mode. Deaths is dropping off like a cliff. Yeah people are still getting it but the death count is the major thing. Long as that number keeps going down no one gives a shit about if you have it or not. At this point it's a forgone thing anyway. Either you have it, you don't have it, or you did but it didn't do shit to you so you went on with life as normal.

[Anonymous No.18979595]

>>18979578
>Deaths is dropping off like a cliff
massive cope

[Anonymous No.18979598]

>>18979562
your stop loss would have to allow for 10-30% daily price fluctuations, and you will have to monitor it daily. you're basically day trading it at that point anyway

[Anonymous No.18979621]

>>18979544
Yeah, no shit. Welcome to capitalism, it's been a popularity contest since the first exchange. If you actually read about finance history you'll see that we're all retarded and don't know what the fuck we're doing. So, trying to predict chaos is absolutely fucking asinine and "researching" everything will give you the same result as throwing literal shit at the wall and picking stocks that way. So please stop with your generic fearmongering that no one gives a shit about. You're not smarter than others for realizing really basic economic things are wrong.

[Anonymous No.18979634]

>>18979544
This is the power of stock buy backs and unlimited debt.

[Anonymous No.18979654]

>i am an investor not a trader
>ok i am a swing trader
>notified by a broker than the account is charged as a pattern day trader

[Anonymous No.18979662]

>>18979562
Look up the split history. The charts you see today are inaccurate. leveraged ETFs were never trading higher than $1k.

[Anonymous No.18979666]

>implying the market will ever dip again.
Thanks to QE, we will now be forever golden bull.

[Anonymous No.18979682]

Tapering is the word of the day

[Anonymous No.18979684]

>>18979654
Are you trading on margin?

[Anonymous No.18979701]

>>18978689
You're such a fucking retard. Your "arguments" are all just hindsight and confirmation bias which your absolute delusion allows you to see. I can't wait for you to get fucking rekt so that you finally stop spamming this shit.
>hurr durr buy my eroding 3x garbage in the middle of an economic downturn that was already forming before the lockdown while 80% of the companies are drowing in their debt
Have fun with your "cheap" soxl. There's no point in buying low in a multiplicative system.

[Anonymous No.18979735]

>>18979539
That doesn't seem true as far as I could tell. There were many proposed vaccines, none of which worked reliably.

[Anonymous No.18979754]

Any utilitychads here?

[Anonymous No.18979776]

>>18979682

[Anonymous No.18979782]

>>18979304
Why don't you post jnug?

[Anonymous No.18979791]

If you want to watch something a little interesting that isn't endless cheerleader shitposting. Steve Eisman in Oct of last year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDQYMFKbtvY

[Anonymous No.18979834]

>>18978696
Why hold for thirty years when you can clearly see the crab in all its glory. I hate selling, believe me, but I think allocating a bit of your portfolio to swing trading isn’t a terrible idea at the moment.

[Anonymous No.18979845]

>>18979684
No. This shit happens when you lose your cool and lose discipline and flinch and get in and out and lose money AND as an insult to injury your broker calls you out: hey dumbass you are trading too much, you are a day trader!

[Anonymous No.18979848]

My landlord says he needs to come talk to me about how high my heating bill is. I told him, "My door is always open"

[Anonymous No.18979857]

>>18979701
There stigma against this strategy is emotional, not logical. The 'decay' works for it in strong bullmarkets, not against. It may be a poor permahold over a lifetime, but a solid market timing model or simply trend following with UPRO/TQQQ gives far better gains than their non leveraged counterparts. If a person has the mental fortitude to stick to a strategy with leverage then there is no reason not to.

[Anonymous No.18979874]

>>18979754
Ive got D, ED and DUK.

Idk shit about them, but thats ok because these doods are just for a little diversification any way.

[Anonymous No.18979882]

>>18979791
Who cares? One retard got lucky, so now we should listen to him? Survivorship bias is very stupid and nearsighted.

>>18979845
Kek, that's actually pretty funny. I don't make risky trades so I haven't lost money yet. But I'm sure once I do the broker will be quick to call me a retard and limit my account

[Anonymous No.18979885]

if u cant wait till monday then ur not pateint enough for trading :p

[Anonymous No.18979903]

Bully my folio please.

https://m1.finance/9vZy-5GMDJ9W

[Anonymous No.18979928]

>>18979857
>The 'decay' works for it in strong bullmarkets
I hope this is just a unfortunate formulation.

[Anonymous No.18979931]

>>18979848
Ba dum tssh!

[Anonymous No.18979936]

>>18979701
t. -300IQ

[Anonymous No.18979940]

>>18979857
I will repeat my strategy that I have done many times. When I see the VIX die and stay dead so the crab fucks off I am going into SOXL, SPXL, QQQ, TQQQ whatever. That is how I will diversify.
QE just creates new bubbles that require more QE to "fix" the next time around. The only guaranteed result of QE is inflation of assets so it doesn't matter how "fake and gay" I think the market is, I am going to ride that bitch with leveraged ETFs. I just want to be a little smart about when to pick it up to ride them a little bit higher
I won't be "timing a bottom". I won't be eating it from the crab.

[Anonymous No.18979949]

>>18979754
NEE chad here

[Anonymous No.18979978]

>>18979791
>short zillow and TSLA
>both kept going up
RIP to him.

[Anonymous No.18979980]

>>18979940
Yep. It's literally free money. Going to mix in some URTY for the inevitable small cap springboard.

[Anonymous No.18979985]

>>18979791
>excited about his shorts on Zillow and Tesla
>both worth almost twice or more now
Those aren't going too well for him

[Anonymous No.18979990]

What would Bernarke do?

[Anonymous No.18980006]

>>18979791
>shorted TREX
>it mooned
This (((retard))) needs to go away

[Anonymous No.18980025]

>>18979940
>>18979980
This could be done with anything that gives semi-consistent 10-15% growth, right? Are there other alternatives that give similar results?

[Anonymous No.18980043]

>>18979985
He pays premiums on shorts for years. Deutsche Bank is a riskier short position than Zillow or Tesla

[Anonymous No.18980062]

BULLS ARE FUCKED LMAO

[Anonymous No.18980081]

>>18979791
>"Are there big bubbles or inefficiencies that you see?"
>"I don't see a systemic problem."
In the first 30 s, he was already proven wrong. The unraveling of the debt bubbles in various markets that began during the downturn (and contributed to the downturn) was a huge systemic risk that ultimately was one reason that the Fed had to intervene.

[Anonymous No.18980123]

>>18978682
Is this bait

[Anonymous No.18980138]

>>18978716
Your math is still wrong and doesn’t account for compounding loss accurately whatsoever. Stop posting this, retard.

[Anonymous No.18980149]

>>18979701
>>18980138
Thank you for this. It's important you remain ignorant and poor cuz not only will SOXL make me rich in the direct way but in relative terms I'll indirectly feel just that much richer thanks to how poor you will remain in comparison. It's like 10x more free money and you'll be the one doing all the work. HAhahaha

[Anonymous No.18980166]

>>18979386

covid is a nothingburger so things will open up with or without a vaccine. It doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.18980178]

>>18980025
>This could be done with anything that gives semi-consistent 10-15% growth, right? Are there other alternatives that give similar results?
Tech just continues to outclass the growth or value of nearly anything else. SPY has been the forerunner for decades now and the other indices have slowly but surely been trying to "catch up" with tech stocks of their own. Which then come to dominate ALL the movement.
It is fucking hard to beat tech or semiconductors. If anyone has suggestions I am all ears.
Also, do I think tech is a bubble? Who cares. I am riding that bitch. My trading for years will then consist of checking the indices once per day and pulling out if I see Mr. VIX punch through 30 in a day. I am not a day trader. I am mostly done with my swing trading for now because nothing feels good to buy and so I am slowly selling off everything.
In 2 months if this "rally" really is "a golden bull" I will dump my stock portfolio into those leveraged ETFs and be done with it. Do I care if its actually a golden bull? Nope!

[Anonymous No.18980198]

>>18980166
It matters for those stupid enough to gamble on biomeme stocks.

[Anonymous No.18980215]

>>18980198

yeah you are right about that.

[Anonymous No.18980232]

>>18979980
It's funny how over the years there's a pattern of fund managers coming out and declaring some major discovery as to why shorting TSLA is a sure bet. After some months or years of them getting btfo they just kind of disappear and shut up about it. David Einhorn is the current one making the rounds giving speeches about shorting TLSA, in cringe Twitter feuds with people, etc. Mark Spiegel is another, assuming he is still solvent. That guy I think is literally going insane with his hatred for TSLA and for getting btfo for years.

[Anonymous No.18980279]

>>18979985
>>18980232
>>18979978
Wrong reply

[Anonymous No.18980280]

>>18979791
>betting against zillow
Tesla I understand, but zillow? The housing market is an archaic inefficient institution that will benefit from big data.

[Anonymous No.18980293]

>>18980232
It's pretty amazing how some of these guys are presumably short TSLA for years and losing millions when they could've just put that money into an index fund or a diversified basket of stocks and made millions instead.

[Anonymous No.18980315]

>>18980232
TSLA will never face a reckoning as long as interest rates are this low and credit this easy because TSLA can just keep borrowing money. They even have Musk to use his cult of personality to swindle investors after promising he won't issue more shares....only to issue more shares. That gives them a leg up on Uber at least which doesn't have a charismatic Millennial faceman to rally behind.
Part of what made our last "bull run" so unique, better or worse, was because of how it was also the easiest time in US history to access credit lines.

[Anonymous No.18980318]

>>18979621
Good argument? I read that as you capitulating, or am I wrong? You've managed to string out an argument about how the economy is undoubtedly weak, where you offered no argument to the contrary. Dismissing a lagging indicator, and now you're calling everyone retarded. What are you even doing?

[Anonymous No.18980349]

>>18980318
Jesus Christ. You actually are a schizo. I'm done replying to you, it's clear to me you are not capable of a single rational thought.

[Anonymous No.18980350]

>>18980280
Zillow takes on a lot of risk buying homes. zillow has been buying a lot of homes very quickly. if you think the housing market is going to slump, zillow is going to be wrecked.
it would be one thing if zillow was just a website, but is not

[Anonymous No.18980365]

>>18978316
>GM 171.2B mcap

[Anonymous No.18980395]

>>18980349
Retard

[Anonymous No.18980400]

Anyone else here holding $MITT and plans to weather the storm?

[Anonymous No.18980440]

What's going to happen with gold in the near term? Will it go down due to deflationary pressure or will it continue to climb?

[Anonymous No.18980467]

Why is this stock popular?

[Anonymous No.18980485]

>>18980467
Because dude weed lmao

[Anonymous No.18980492]

>>18980467
dude WEED

[Anonymous No.18980495]

>>18980467
dude, like..... weed lmao

[Anonymous No.18980496]

>>18980350
They need the inventory to scale their program. Even if the market tanks (which it wont) they still have they still have a lot of cash to be fine at the end of this. There is a lot of money to be made in streamlining house buying. Not everyone wants to deal with the normal hassles of buying and selling a home.

[Anonymous No.18980502]

>>18980467
because weed is a meme. looking forward to DEA deciding to confiscate all their money, just because they can

[Anonymous No.18980510]

>>18980467
Dude weed lmao!

[Anonymous No.18980521]

>>18980440
dragon pattern looks veery bearish my friend

[Anonymous No.18980556]

>>18980496
There is a lot of money to be made from streamlining house buying. I agree with that. Real estate agents are a shady lot, making 5% commission on the biggest investment of your life, when all they do is look at online listings. But we're in a bubble and Zillow bought houses on credit. Imagine a company taking out a million mortgages in 2007. They're about to get fucked.
https://aimgroup.com/2019/09/05/zillow-issues-1-1b-in-debt-as-home-flipping-arm-grows/

[Anonymous No.18980643]

>>18980440
DXY is down, gold will be up Mon.

[Anonymous No.18980644]

>>18980467
Millennials

[Anonymous No.18980658]

>>18980496
Zillow has entangled its fate indirectly with home mortgages, something they have little control over. They inherit all the risk that a bank might from bankrolling airbnb vacation landlords without having any idea of how to see it coming.

[Anonymous No.18980713]

>>18980178
The beginning of macroeconomic cycles tend to favor small cap growth, which can be cycled out of later in the cycle. Pic related. VUG, which became heavily tech weighted toward the end of the cycle, started to overtake VB around 2018. Of course, QQQ matched up until mid 2011, and then began outperforming. It might be worth considering, given where top heavy tech-driven indices are right now. They pose a greater risk of dragging the market and tech-weighted indices down once people move out of the safe heavens that they believe tech to be and begin cycling into other sectors that were depressed, but have since begun to rebound and offer higher potential returns.

>>18980315
Which is what began to unravel back in late February and March, after which credit restrictions have begun increasing.

>>18980440
There are a lot of economic reasons for a down turn, but it entirely depends on how market psychology plays out. There are going to be a lot of negative economic headlines coming, but perhaps some positive ones too regarding CV, at least. That said, fear over losing capital in choppy markets could cause depressed market sentiment to trigger a downturn, which has historical precedent. Yes, long term inflation might be a problem and TINA is worth considering in such situations, but in the very near short term, investors could seek safety over risk. Greed and fear are fickle and oscillation between the two is easy, depending on what outside context the markets are given.

[Anonymous No.18980817]

>>18980556
>Imagine a company taking out a million mortgages in 2007
or, imagine a company that's just starting it's home buying business in 07 and then has 08 and 09 to buy cheap real estate.

A big drop in real estate helps zillow more than it hurts them

[Anonymous No.18980830]

>>18980467
DUDE

[Anonymous No.18980844]

>>18980467
>weed
lmao!

[Anonymous No.18980860]

>>18980467
I really have to laugh at all the weedbros who though they were geniuses jumping into this shit, only to realize they can't actually a make a profit legally.

[Anonymous No.18980896]

>>18979782
>gold and equities behave similarly

[Anonymous No.18980898]

>>18980350
Ok Mr Eisman

[Anonymous No.18980935]

>>18979903
It's the same big cap dividend aristocrat portofolio that every zoomer on youtube M1finance has. Enjoy your 7% CAGR and tax drag.

[Anonymous No.18980960]

>>18980025
Yeah, especially SOXL and CURE.

[Anonymous No.18980985]

>>18980440
Gold is tapped out. It got its once in a decade bump and now everyone will go back to forgetting that it exists. Good time to cash out and buy a few BTC.

[Anonymous No.18980991]

>>18979980
>>18980713
Thanks for the ideas. I'll look into small caps. Because it is a good point that small caps such as the Russell are still in the dumpster fire while the big 3 have been brought out of the abyss solely through tech safe havens.
I'll add URTY to my watch list.

[Anonymous No.18981038]

>>18980985
>Good time to buy a few BTC.
hahahaha

[Anonymous No.18981065]

>>18979903
Dividend investing died in the early 2000's. Some would argue that it was in the early 90s. It is just easy to prove again, and again, and again, and AGAIN that "growth" stocks now also "outvalue" value investing like dividends.
Dividend stocks should only be considered as the real successor to the trashed asset that are bonds. And even then, those only that are near invincible with their balance sheets to not fuck you during downturns like BA and DIS (although that was a unique set of circumstances). So JNJ, PG, KO, etc.

[Anonymous No.18981089]

I can't wait for the next Hudbay minerals financial release. Good or bad I'm ready

[Anonymous No.18981105]

>>18978394
the dunning-kruger swing trader

[Anonymous No.18981120]

Natural gas bros how are you doing?

Also is ET worthit biz?

[Anonymous No.18981135]

>>18981120
Good. I hold a ton of natural gas, and I'm thinking of getting more. Looking at $PAA right now.

[Anonymous No.18981147]

>>18981120
ET is not worth it. IF you want to get into pipeline MLPs, EPD is the way to go.

[Anonymous No.18981151]

>>18981065
dividends are mostly just an /smg/ cope for getting stuck bagholding

[Anonymous No.18981176]

>>18981151
I don't like them but I do understand their role for those on fixed incomes or retirees. But they should be treated as bonds. They aren't smart plays. They are just capital protection moves. But if you are young, say a few decades out from retiring, then they actually work against you.

[Anonymous No.18981188]

>>18981120
Been a chilly spring hasn't it?

[Anonymous No.18981191]

>>18980467
A lot of people missed the 2017 weed run and are hoping for another wave. Unfortunately leaf regulatory situation is no better and companies are still struggling under the government yoke; supply chain is fucked due to extra government hoops to jump through, can't advertise. In US Biden is the dem candidate and he doesn't want to go fed legal. Dems in general did not make much noise about legalizing weed in the debates. That could have been a catalyst for another bubble up but it didn't happen.

[Anonymous No.18981281]

>>18981188
>>18981147
>>18981135
I'm doing good with OKE 40 shares at 23 bucks. Don't know if MLPs are worth it because of their weird tax form, though I do have an accountant?

What are you guys pics then
OKE EPD USAC?

[Anonymous No.18981311]

>>18981147
>EPD

Blackpill me on this stock, anon.

[Anonymous No.18981360]

>>18981311
not him, buy then sell @ 21

[Anonymous No.18981375]

>>18981281
MLPs generally give a K-1 form that lists your dividends, except it's not really dividends. You have a cost basis based on the capital you invested and the distributions are categorized as Return of Capital until they've returned more than your original basis.

It's honestly not that hard. You can import K-1 data into TaxHawk. You just fill in the blanks like put box 1 into this field.

[Anonymous No.18981396]

>>18979544
based and rightpilled

>>18979621
dumb and cope-pilled

[Anonymous No.18981399]

how are my oil bros doing? MRO and CVX been printing money for me. i hope to make my 10k eurobucks soon.

[Anonymous No.18981474]

>>18981399
Took profits from COP PSX FANG CVX still holding ENB EPD TOT

[Anonymous No.18981523]

>>18980149
Dude I’m trying to help you. You will get rekt by these ETFs over the next decade. >t. quant

[Anonymous No.18981552]

>>18980713
Backtesting is dogshit. Just because it happened before doesn’t mean it’ll happen again.

[Anonymous No.18981583]

>>18981523
who cares about quant fundamentals, fiannace, and econ

on the other hand.,...

>>18981552
if it happened enough then its less random and therefore more reliable in an otheriwse unpredicatble market

[Anonymous No.18981615]

>>18981583
>the roulette showed red 78 out of the last 100 spins
>ALL ON RED!!
nice work anon, you solved it

[Anonymous No.18981616]

Thinking of putting more money into the market. What are your thoughts on HD and OKE?

[Anonymous No.18981649]

>>18981552
What is that even in reference to?

[Anonymous No.18981653]

>>18981615
>all on red
yeah no. But what if i bet 1% of my cash on it? and then do it over and over again? then 78% sounds really good

[of course roulette is not always 78%, but my theory is correct in the market]

[Anonymous No.18981672]

>>18981653
>what happens if I bet 1% on it over and over
you would, on average, lose all of your money because you don't understand basic statistics, very simple

[Anonymous No.18981693]

>>18981523
I understand and appreciate what you're saying. I get why you're saying it. Lemme first say I'm not new to this, I've been trading for quite a few years. On a lark I got interested in the leveraged ETFs around July of 2017 and threw $2500 into a Robinhood meme account to test a theory I had about them. That $2500 is now sitting at 184k. So there's that.
Also I'm extremely and thoroughly aware of exactly how the daily leverage rebalancing works. I've read the SPXL prospectus and I have a futures account where for a while I was mimicking the process Direxion goes through at 4pm every day buying or selling contracts as necessary to maintain 3x leverage. Of course this wasn't necessary to get a conceptual understanding but to get an actual practical hands-on feel for how these products works and to feel the visceral pain of having leveraged up on a high the day before only for the underlying to make a sharp dive and having to deleverage today thus locking in the dreaded volatility decay. Suffice it to say I get it.
All that said, I won't belabor the details of why, despite the naysayers, I think index based leveraged ETFs offer a market beating strategy in the long term. The pros and cons have been beaten to death. I'll just say it like this. I believe in the next decade or two volatility will sharply reduce and I also believe the market will steadily rise barring pullbacks here and there. The combination of those two things are best taken advantage of by leverage and not just any leverage but leverage that is constantly and systematically increased as the underlying price causes it to naturally decrease. Maintaining that leverage at 3x on the start of each day is a responsible number as it diminishes the chance of a liquidation event and also ensures as the underlying rises the leverage will be maintained. That's as simple as it is. The only argument against this is the possibility of volatility increasing or the market going down long term. I beg to differ

[Anonymous No.18981710]

>>18981672
youre right, %win is nothing if risk:reward ratio is not backing it up. Here is a chart. 78% is off this chart!! hahah

[Anonymous No.18981733]

>>18981710
you are a living embodiment of the hot hand fallacy, how does it feel to be such a meme

[Anonymous No.18981755]

what would be a good small cap etf to buy?
https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1259006600343195649?s=20

[Anonymous No.18981783]

>>18981733
>is the purported phenomenon that a person who experiences a successful outcome has a greater chance of success in further attempts.
but the chances of success on further attempts is not increased if i win or lose in the current or past ones. Its always random. Im saying if you have an "edge" in one direction over another, then you should be making money if the risk:reward supports it

[Anonymous No.18981785]

>>18980467
lmaoooo

[Anonymous No.18981830]

>>18980467
Net profit margin -2,295.55%
Revenue growth YoY 3.41%
LOL

[Anonymous No.18981865]

>>18981783
you don't have an edge on a roulette table, in fact the house has an edge on you, and yet you just said you would bet 1% over and over again based on the last 100 spins

[Anonymous No.18981895]

>>18981865
>[of course roulette is not always 78%, but my theory is correct in the market]
i hope you read this in my previous post. I admit there is no edge in roulette which is why the house offers it. Im talking about the market.

[Anonymous No.18981950]

>>18979516
shit fetish

I just want to do yoga and bootcamp with Tsubomi's big ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1xveYGF7-Y

[Anonymous No.18981976]

>>18981375
But how do I get the K1 does my broker give it to me on the website and I also give that to my accountant? Also whats the tax rate on a ROC than a standard dividend?

[Anonymous No.18981998]

NBL just exceeded earnings tremendously. Haven’t looked too much into it but thought I’d put some eyes on it

[Anonymous No.18982015]

>>18979437
If you have to get a new one every year is it really a vaccine?

[Anonymous No.18982107]

>>18980467
You missed the ride. Tilray (I think) went as high as 300 a share before tanking. If you were one of the lucky ones who got in before the lift off and bailed before the free fall you walked away with fat green bags.

[Anonymous No.18982131]

>>18979437
why?

[Anonymous No.18982133]

>>18982107
The only companies that seem to be any while because of their connections are Cronos and Canopy as both are backed by big vice stocks MO and Constellation. Other than that pot is trash.

[Anonymous No.18982155]

>>18982133
Pot in my eyes is literally tobacco but without the advantages that many big tobaccos companies have which is limited black markets.

[Anonymous No.18982189]

>>18981998
Should I liquidate my $ET to go all in on $NBL?

[Anonymous No.18982196]

What's with so many stocks pumping vertically 40%+ during AH? Are people just blindly doing market buy orders on any sign of good news? If institutional investors are doing this, it makes even less sense.

[Anonymous No.18982237]

Someone tell me what they think of $NHF?

[Anonymous No.18982243]

>>18982196
>What's with the market pumping vertically during AH?
That's when all of the major moves happen these days. They leave the crabbing for market hours.

[Anonymous No.18982268]

>Argentinean government bonds

Might as well go to the casino and splurge your $65,000,000,000. Higher chance of return and recovering the principal in any case. Is this upcoming default 'priced in', or will it sound an alarm bell for emerging market bonds? You could potentially make a move on $EMB and catch big gains on that dirty whore. It features every South American, Asian and African shithole. Not all of these countries have endemic default problems like Argentina, but maybe COVID-19 will do their government revenues in?

[Anonymous No.18982275]

>>18982196
>40%
if you're not talking about volume, i need to see several examples of what you're talking about.

>>18982155
except that tobacco is a declining industry and pot is a growing industry, and that pot is easily and harvested by individuals while tobacco is well suited to big industrialized farming.

There's a lot of differences but it's probably the closes thing to compare it to, and why Altria was getting involved and many of the other tobacco companies had projects in the works.

[Anonymous No.18982292]

>>18982243
Which mostly tanks the options market. Buy on red days now almost guaranteed returns just the next damn trading day.

[Anonymous No.18982312]

>>18982189
No keep ET.
ET looks much much better

[Anonymous No.18982327]

>>18979903
>telecom: T, VZ
I would increase your weight toward VZ. T is huge and has a ton of under performing stuff. You have coverage for media via DIS, and are vaguely double exposing yourself to issues that will face all media conglomerates. There's a lot of headwind. If you want more exposure to pure telecom, consider TMUS. If you want something to split up your exposure to T, you can do CMCSA.
>financials: 2 insurance co, 3 big banks
I like the choices, not sure why AFL over others which are at a huge discount. I'm not too wise on why AIG is so low right now, but I would say that you can spread yourself out over the P&C insurers as well as life and health. I would also criticize having only 5% allocated to this sector and say you are likely very underweight. Also, why no MA, AXP, V, C, PYPL?

[Anonymous No.18982329]

>bad info
>crypto, gold and stocks go up together
>good info
>crypto, gold and stocks go down together

FUCK THIS

how to create a portfolio that is not as volatile? where to find the "hedge" to stonks?

[Anonymous No.18982365]

>>18982189
ET has a strong stable dividend history, growing revenue, and good grades from investment sites I’ve looked into

[Anonymous No.18982389]

>>18982312
>>18982365
What do you guys think about $PAA? What about $USAC?

[Anonymous No.18982404]

>>18982329
BTC and gold are the only remaining hedges to stocks. You are just witnessing a bizarre battle. Deflationary forces in the general economy and inflationary in equities like stocks through QE. Gold and BTC bet that the inflation from stocks will bleed into the economy eventually. Something will break at some point. Historically, the odds are for stocks to survive but this is uncharted water.

[Anonymous No.18982433]

>>18982292
I hear ya. It's highly suspect, not per se in the manipulation sense, but what it implies about underlying market sentiment. The fact that market hours are, on average, near-flat, or often diverge from the open seems to suggest a lack of faith in this rally and nowhere near the extent of FOMO or TINA that people are claiming. Simply put, if those effects were really driving price movement upward to the magnitude that is being claimed, why would we be stuck pushing the 50% or 60% retracement levels for the past month with little relative (compared to how much capital has exited) volume? Major resistances are now being broken outside of market hours most of the time, not during.

[Anonymous No.18982437]

>>18982196
Look up "Plunge protection team"

Yes the government has a real group to manipulate futures and reduce volatility

[Anonymous No.18982444]

>>18982389
USAC looks good but has a couple question marks, like it’s payout ratio.
I dont like PAA.
I haven’t looked into their qualitative news so do you what you can with that.

[Anonymous No.18982450]

>>18982404
>BTC and gold are the only remaining hedges to stocks
nope

After observing the drop on BTC I already know that we will have drop on gold and stonks on Monday as soon as the futures open.

[Anonymous No.18982454]

>>18982329
Motley Fool premium

[Anonymous No.18982469]

>>18982389
I’m looking at a stable/increasing dividend that coincides with increasing revenue and a good payout ratio.
Use the seeking alpha website which you can use for free for most things. That’s what I’m doing

[Anonymous No.18982481]

>>18982433
>plunge protection team keeps market afloat on the Hope's of good news returning investors to the market
>all the news is bad
>friday reveals the entire year is hopeless

Yeah itll drop. they failed.

[Anonymous No.18982498]

>>18982450
That would be a great buying opportunity for gold if it did drop on Monday.

[Anonymous No.18982499]

>>18982404
Gold is a hyper-inflation hedge, otherwise it's a highly speculative and highly volatile asset that generally decreases in value during a market crash. Bitcoin hasn't proven itself to be a hedge to anything at all, and is even more obscenely speculative and volatile. Perhaps it would be of value in a hyper-inflationary context, but as proven by recent price movements it too deflates with the indices.

These things aren't "hedges" to stock, they don't increase in value as stocks decrease in value. Only cash can do that.

[Anonymous No.18982512]

>>18982433
See I'm with you here. This is why Warren said what he did and is holding cash, wed see the volume return on a generally accepted level, or healthy bottom for a buyback. BUT. The fed via proxy is buying up etfs and such AH, throwing the price back through the roof bc it can take advantage of low volume.
So while we are artificially inflated, this sucker isnt tanking bc retail doesnt have the volume to bring it down. Were stuck along for the ride of all time highs and maybe (probably) higher. Trump wont let this sink, and the ramifications of this will take some time to play out.
I guess....I guess I'm just long now, with a spy put as a hedge for 2021 and btc. Dunno what else to do.

[Anonymous No.18982514]

>>18982389
>>18982365
How did pipelines do during the recession?

[Anonymous No.18982536]

what's he up to now bros?

[Anonymous No.18982543]

>>18982450
Why monday?

[grim !!tqKNtpU7P6O No.18982548]

>>18982196
>>18982243
>>18982437
It's fucking earnings season.

[Anonymous No.18982558]

>>18982499
It does decrease in value during a crash, but the government does everything to start inflation, and its been very good against most currencies.

[Anonymous No.18982566]

>>18982450
I fail to see any tangible or long running correlation between gold and BTC.

[Anonymous No.18982589]

>>18982566
Hell if anything both are their own monsters. I'd say long both.

[Anonymous No.18982601]

>>18982536
>Case Number 4:20
JESUS CHRIST THIS FUCKING TIMELINE

[Anonymous No.18982622]

>>18982548
I'm referencing specifically the broader market indices, not individual tickers. Earnings volatility is just another layer, but the indices have been making their most significant movements almost exclusively outside of market hours, i.e., late night/early morning via futures.

[Anonymous No.18982649]

>>18982268
Argentino here. I would never EVER touch national bonds. I have no clue what will happen with the default, you could have some luck shorting bonds if that's even a thing, but literally this looks like playing with fire.

I do trade companies here like MELI, YPF, TEO and TX, all of which I think are fundamentally good, but swings are crazy and can rek u if you don't keep up with the news.

[Anonymous No.18982655]

>>18982275
>if you're not talking about volume, i need to see several examples of what you're talking about.

MVIS
FTEK
SAEX

I see the same occurrence with larger cap stocks. The percentages are smaller, but the gaps are ridiculously large when compared to their historical performance.

TWLO
CHGG
IMMU

[Anonymous No.18982671]

Okay, OTIS > CARR > RTX. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.18982701]

>>18982514
Idk

[Anonymous No.18982703]

>>18982450
I'm a long-term bull on gold/bitcoin, but everyone is expecting it to moon on Monday because of the halving and also because Paul Tudor Jones is scheduled to speak about it on CNBC. I think both events will turn out the opposite way. People will sell the news, and PTJ will clarify his position on air to the massive disappointment of /r/bitcoin.

He's not buying bitcoin, he's not even buying bitcoin futures. He's only said that he's "open to" his fund "starting a small, single-digit position" in bitcoin futures. This was taken wildly out of context by all the cryptards. He's a smart trader, one of the best, and would never announce that he's buying something to the world and then go buy it. If anything he probably bought a long time ago and wanted to talk up the price so he can sell right before the halving.

The shear amount of sheep draping the PTJ wool over their own eyes amazes me though, clearly there's still plenty of dumb money out there which is good for speculation.

[Anonymous No.18982708]

>>18982548
Have you look at the charts before this year? Earnings report come out every quarter. Many companies are losing money or making much less money than the year before, yet their stocks still rocket up.

[Anonymous No.18982733]

>>18982655
>TWLO
massive beat, after there were serious doubts about the company. They do a lot of business with small businesses, and there was something the SEC was looking into that may have led to heavy shorting, which leads to short covering that causes rallies to intensify.

Simalar with chegg, they're killing it as education is moving online.

IMMU is a biotech isn't it? Did they have some trial results or FDA decision?

>>18982622
>I'm referencing specifically the broader market indices, not individual tickers
no you're not. you're not doing any real homework on this, quit being so lazy.

also, ETFs cause sectors to move together, so when skyworks or someone beats earnings bigly, the rest of the semiconductors go up with it.

[Anonymous No.18982751]

>>18982708
oh, it was bait.
I responded to bait, fucking great.

[grim !!tqKNtpU7P6O No.18982781]

>>18982622
When Microsoft has good earnings it generally brings up the entire sector.
>>18982708
Movements are 3x whatever was last season. Firms at the beginning of this were predicting GDP drops up to 25%. Investors time horizons are now much longer. Anything short of an apocalypse is considered "good". Mr Market is irrational in the short term.

[Anonymous No.18982786]

>>18982671
BA>CARR>RTX>OTIS

[Anonymous No.18982821]

I feel like you could make a really, really, really good portfolio by targeting Vietnamese stocks. Emerging market growth with first-world government stability, it has never defaulted on its debt.

[Anonymous No.18982857]

>>18982733
>Simalar with chegg, they're killing it as education is moving online.

TWLO is still losing money. They're just losing less now. 6 cents earnings per $180 share is ridiculous. Their service isn't unique. They have other competitors. Even if you're optimistic about TWLO's future, it still doesn't justify the AH price jump.

[Anonymous No.18982861]

>>18982821
It is probably going to get better too as firms pull manufacturing out of china and move it to Vietnam and southeast asia in general.

[Anonymous No.18982879]

>>18982703
>shear amount of sheep
I think you meant sheer but had sheep on your mind

[Anonymous No.18982894]

Does anyone know why they're charging me $8.80 for margin interest when I don't even have margin trading turned on?

[Anonymous No.18982897]

So monday dump confirmed right? Atleast -2.5%

[Anonymous No.18982915]

>>18982861
This is true. My only concern would be regarding China. I have a feeling that they will try to invade Vietnam again this century.

[Anonymous No.18982917]

>>18982897
How so? I hope so, but how so?

[Anonymous No.18982929]

>>18982915
Technically they failed the first time right or was it a draw?

[Anonymous No.18982958]

guys will sp break 3000 next week?

[Anonymous No.18982960]

>>18982196
>What's with so many stocks pumping vertically 40%+ during AH?
I thought this might be a real question.

Now I see you were just trying to set up a conversation so you could tell people the market is wrong:
>>18982857
>TWLO is still losing money. They're just losing less now. 6 cents earnings per $180 share is ridiculous. Their service isn't unique. They have other competitors. Even if you're optimistic about TWLO's future, it still doesn't justify the AH price jump.

You should reconsider your assumptions, if you’re capable.

[Anonymous No.18982965]

>>18982733
>>18982781
>ETFs cause sectors to move together.
Agreed, I never said they didn't, particularly when the indices are so heavily weighted towards the big names. That wasn't what I was referring to, which explicitly would be the significant amount of movement made outside of extended and normal market hours and the lesser degree of movement made during market hours that has often times diverged, despite otherwise positive price movement, resulting in a lot of sideways movement this past month. >>18982433.

>You're not doing any real homework on this.
I'm going off of the numbers that we have for the past month.

Average of the Pre-market Movement (Magnitude): 1.23%
Average of the Market Hours Movement (Magnitude): 0.70%
Average of the Percent of Pre-market Movement Comprising Daily Net Gain/Loss: ~71%

Days in Which Market Hours Followed Futures: 14/22
Bullish Market Hour Divergences (Irrespective of Daily Net Gain/Loss): 2/22
Days in which a Bullish Market Hours Divergence Resulted in Daily Net Gain: 1/2
Bearish Market Hour Divergences (Irrespective of Daily Net Gain/Loss): 6/22
Days in which a Bearish Market Hours Divergence Resulted in Daily Net Loss: 3/6

Average Daily SPY Volume (Daily Net Gain): 109.97 million, 13 days total
Average Daily SPY Volume (Daily Net Loss): 111.66 million, 9 days total
Average Daily SPY Volume Rate of Change (Daily Net Gain): -4.4, monotonic, R^2 = 0.73
Average Daily SPY Volume Rate of Change (Daily Net Loss): Flat

[Anonymous No.18982995]

>>18982958
no

it's already decided that we're going down this week

[Anonymous No.18983014]

>Amid lockdown dispute, Musk says he will move Tesla out of California (Reuters)
>Tesla Inc’s (TSLA.O) chief executive Elon Musk tweeted on Saturday that Tesla will move its headquarters and future programs to Texas or Nevada from California immediately.

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OH NO NO NO NO NO
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[Anonymous No.18983027]

>>18982995
just like last week bobo?

[Anonymous No.18983034]

>>18982960
I'm just looking at their numbers. Explain to me how it makes sense for FOMO into a company that's still losing money and has a weak moat.

[Anonymous No.18983035]

>>18983014
>Elon Musk in 2021:
"Of course we aren't making profits. We had to move our factory :^)"

[Anonymous No.18983039]

>>18982894
robinhood once told me id lost $1,200 when i'd only invested $200 to begin with. i was moderately concerned. i went to sleep and the next day the numbers were right again

[Anonymous No.18983071]

>>18983027
I'm not a Bobo

[Anonymous No.18983097]

>>18982995
Monday will be green to lure them into a false sense of security and then Tuesday is the big massacre.

[Anonymous No.18983103]

>>18982879
The pun was intended. And don't call me shearly

[Anonymous No.18983124]

What countries stocks are still cheapie and can rebound?

German, Italy, Japan, Spain?

[Anonymous No.18983182]

>>18983071
>>18982995
Cute sluts.
Too bad Bobos get the cope.

[Anonymous No.18983243]

business idea: become the governor of oregon and lock them up till 2021 cause virus

[Anonymous No.18983256]

>>18983124
Nevermind that. Do entire portfolio of a selection of the biggest airlines. Most of them will survive.

[Anonymous No.18983260]

should i switch to webull yes or no?

[Anonymous No.18983268]

>>18983124
The only one of those to have any faith of a recovery is Germany. And honestly, all EU banking is probably more fucked than we realize

[Anonymous No.18983406]

>>18983260
yes rh is ass

[Anonymous No.18983708]

new bred

>>18983697
>>18983697
>>18983697

freshly baked

>>18983697
>>18983697
>>18983697