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>> No.18972610

first for masks

>> No.18972637

>>18972610
>suCCk
wtf?

>> No.18972744
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>>18972599
>that faggot Baggie is probably passed out by now
Thank Christ. How bad will oil futures be? I'm worried that they'll go negative again. That seemed to cause a lot panic in the market even though stocks like MRO didn't seem to suffer for it.
>t. no oil position, just worried about my stuff

>> No.18972778
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18972778

So if you are sitting around waiting for another crash, what's something that might go up in the event of another crash that you can hold long term? I was thinking of putting everything in gold but even that went down in March.

>> No.18972788
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18972788

Fatty NATty dumpety doo
I've got a perfect puzzle for you
Fatty NATty dumpety dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

Who do you blame when your stock takes a hit?
When markets dump worse than a Pajeet's shit?
Blaming yourself is a lie and a shame
You know exactly who's to blame

>> No.18972816

I am here to talk investment ideas. Long term good buys, focused on TSX exchange due to WS being ass for USD still. Opening a QT account soon due to this.

>> No.18972841
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YAAAAAAY

>> No.18972845

>>18972744
hmmmm lets see did we either
a) find some magic hole to put all the oil in
b) sell enough of it, for something that suddenly needed that much more of it, that the magic hole is no longer needed

>> No.18972883

>>18972841
>Anon is making it
We've been memeing about 'makeing it' for years, now it is happening before our very eyes. The future is our.
This is bullish.

>> No.18972927

>>18972778
I cant understand why gold dropped WITH stocks.
Did everything really rush into cash positions? Do people really hold more faith in fiat currencies when shit hits the fan? Are all the /PMG/ posters just shilling or bag holding?
Such a clown world filled with clown people

>> No.18972953

>>18972883
Feels great. I actually went and bought twice as much USAC after it went ex dividend and dipped.

>> No.18972969

sirs,
please do the needful and give me the best defense stocks. is it LMT?

>> No.18972970

>>18972778
can I get divident pay like that with under 10k

>> No.18973017
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>>18972778
>you are sitting around waiting for another crash
See you in 2-5 years.

>> No.18973033

>>18972953
I feel that feel. My largest divvy stock is also my largest growth currently. Why did I not go all in? If only I knew

>> No.18973036

>>18972969
rtx

>> No.18973052
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>>18972816
PPL
ENB
CTC.A
Final destination.

>> No.18973148

>>18972816
Use ibrk (lie about all their questions, nobody currs), app is garbo and they don't support cash secured puts, but other than that it's really good. Best you can do outside USA pretty much.
As for TSX stocks, >>18973052
For longer term I like BPF.UN but I'm waiting for more news about restaurants reopening. I also like PSI and SU for energy, RUS for metals, CWX for construction, and UFS for paper. I have no clue what to think about FEC but I have some as well. RNW is another good choice in my opinion. Other than that, banks and REIT, but definitely not for now. Real impact of corona on these won't be seen for 6 months because the corrupt government did everything they can to keep them up.

>> No.18973153
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18973153

Has anybody used M1 Finance?

I have been using TD Ameritrade and managing my allocations and stats on an excel sheet, which is clunky, and requires a ton of work to automate. M1 seems much more intuitive.

>> No.18973154

>>18972778
Cash dumb dumb

>> No.18973207

>>18973036

yahoo finance seems to think RTX is undervalued along with LMT

>> No.18973228

>>18973148
>because the corrupt government did everything they can to keep them up.
like what

>> No.18973261

>>18973148
UFS is doing well. I should have listened before and got in.
Not feeling it with CWX so much.
CNQ is my energy sector pick and it's looking good. No fat divvy cut annouced, they have cash enough to pay out and still invest in NattyGas expansion to feed the beast that is USA in the fututre.

>> No.18973274
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>>18973154
>holding cash long term

>> No.18973282

>>18973207
ok never mind dont buy either. yahoo finance

>> No.18973283

>>18972927
I thought it was just the big boys liquidating some of it to buy back stocks to keep it afloat?

>> No.18973340

>>18973283
Could be
I can see how that would happen
Possible

>>18973154
>cash

>> No.18973346

>>18973282
>yahoo finance
whats wrong with yahoo finance srs question

>> No.18973375

>>18972927
fact is nothing is really correlated. "shoulve, wouldnve" etc etc. no one cares about these things. Gold is reaching a top from 2011-12 and sellers hit the market. Could be big boys, bagholders, or short sellers. Or maybe just manipulation because gold now made a new high and is resuming the uptrend of 2018.

so what does it mean? you can buy now but youre not buying at a good price. whether is goes up or down, is very hard to find out

>> No.18973391
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>>18972927
Deflationary pressure. Dollar shot up in value due to high demand, meaning gold was worth "less". Gold is a good long though, if you observe from '08 to '11-'13 that shit skyrocketed. I expect similar behavior as people attempt to shelter from the masses of money being thrown around at the moment.

>> No.18973421

(Fat southern 1930s lawyer) your honor, the defendant is of the opinion that SHIP will 10x or more by June. Motioning to ban all criticism of SHIP from /smg/ indefinitely

>> No.18973442

>>18972778
Corn futures. Yes, I'm serious.

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>>18972744
>he doesnt filter drunk LARPing schizo tripfags

>> No.18973462

>>18973442
buy at 3 sell at 4?

>> No.18973461

>>18973153
>feeding your positions to algos

>> No.18973490

>>18972778
We already saw how all the stocks reacted to a 35% market dump, so look around. If you can't find a good enough company that pretty much ignored the dump then look for the ones that recovered the most, like paypal for example

>> No.18973493

>>18973052
What is the thesis for CTC? Retail based chains don't have a great outlook.

>> No.18973511

>>18972637
>>18972610
Blessed id

>> No.18973632
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18973632

>>18973207

>> No.18973640

>When you're interviewing for Art School and your phone goes off

>> No.18973645
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>>18973346

Not >>18973282 but Yahoo Finance is a single source of information. Lost of negative news surrounding RTX. They've been holding steady, fundamentals are good. As long as they don't get fucked in some bribery scandal, I think they're a good long-term hold (20 RTX here).

>> No.18973690

>>18972744
TANKER. CHADS. Oil will drop but it might not go negative this time.

>> No.18973692

>big boys are so vindictive and competitive they engineer the greatest dead cat bounce in history to slaughter retail/millenials and leave them holding the bags/driven out of the market for a decade.

/cashgang/ about to watch these bombs fall

>> No.18973719

>>18973692
Never bet against America.

>> No.18973735

>>18973719
the guy is literally sitting on cash

>> No.18973769

>>18973719
The guy literally said to bet against america right now in the same speech, repeatedly.

>> No.18973821
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18973821

What's the possibility we retest March lows after a failed re opening of states?

>> No.18973841

>>18973821
50/50

>> No.18973970

>>18973821
The deposit will mature in 9 months, correct?

>> No.18973987

>>18973970
>not leaving the deposit all over her feet

>>18973821
40/60

>> No.18974013

>>18973987
>implying I would stop at one load
But she is pretty, can't lie.

>> No.18974041
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>>18974013
>implying I meant only one load

>> No.18974052

>>18973282
Kek

>> No.18974106

>>18974041
Point. I admit defeat. Would you accept a Ryoko as compensation?

>> No.18974142

>losing 25% on a single trade: mmm no biggie
>sitting on cash: NOOOOO muh inflation you gotta do something!
/smg/ in a nutshell

>> No.18974173

>>18974142
>no interest rates
>no inflation
>every investment is a gamble on clown market
Cash bad

>> No.18974202

>>18974106
is Ryoko a person?

>>18974142
how much cash are you sitting on right now bro?
do you have a plan if the stock market goes sideways or up for the next year?

>> No.18974235

>>18974142
>Not owning companies out of fear they may drop in value
Sorry anon, cash is only paper. I own a share of the slave labour we subject humans to. The day to day value of that share is meaningless in the larger picture. It's about power and having slaves pay me. Fuck pussies, eat great food, buy more shares in slave ownership.

Or, hold cash. lel

>> No.18974243

>>18974202
Bonds and cash if the market keeps going up. There's a few stocks I have picked that aren't just fucking tankers, and there are some others that still haven't recovered that I'll buy in over time.

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18974244

Green clown monday ahead as usual then panic tuesday
Imma go all in on sqqq before monday closes
Do like me if you're insane and make some nice bobo money

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>>18974202
From Tenchi Muyo

>> No.18974249
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18974249

Every time I screen shot these bears they are eating their words before hibernating another week.

>> No.18974263

>>18974247
nice
that's good compensation right there

>>18974243
you want to buy bonds over stocks here?
bro...

>> No.18974276

>>18974249
Where will 20 million unemployed americans go when us reopens? Is

>> No.18974292

>>18972599
>Inbefore permabear
This week will probably decide where the stock market will head. Rejecting 2950 again, down we go. Breaking 2950 - ATH incoming.

>> No.18974306

>>18974263
Yes, specifically junk. If the credit bubble continues, then all the junk bonds will continue to be paid. When the credit bubble ends, then the companies risk going under, and bond holders are paid before stock holders.

>> No.18974322

>>18974276
Pressed post accidently
Anyway, is the fed going to create jobs out of thin air top?

>> No.18974335

What do people think of Plus500?

Like, is it a good broker or should I just go direct through my banks securities arm?

Also whats the dangers with using leverage to buy shares? My 10k that I can spend can buy many times that in shares using the 10k as leverage. How do you pay it back, like do you pay it monthly like every other loan or is it dependent on when you sell your shares?

>> No.18974363

>>18973821

For anyone who liked the image some research says Tomomi Motozawa is here name

>> No.18974431
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Whose gonna buy when its time to sell all those mortgage backed equities?

The fed is literally going all in to pump it. They dont even care about taking an L of epic proportions because the debt will just be passed on to the next generation.

>> No.18974464

>>18974431
>mortgage backed equities
what

>> No.18974469

>>18974464
REPOs

>> No.18974478

>>18974431
FED reduced their purchases over the last days / weeks.

FED hasn't touched corporate bonds ETFs either.

>> No.18974491
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18974491

I got fucked today biz... and not in a good way...

>> No.18974587

>>18974249
I really wonder if they have any self awareness, they seem to repeat the same phrases daily robotically. "It will dump tomorrow" over and over again

>> No.18974620

>>18974587
You will be one of the guys who will cop once it corrects with the second leg down.

>hurr durr everyone knew that it will correct again
Timing something perfectly is a hard thing.

>> No.18974687

>>18974620
Thats a self fulfilling prophecy driven by mental illness, of course someday the market will go down, but repeating everyday that "tomorrow is the day" is just retarded and it shows why permabears will never make any money.

>> No.18974698

>>18974335
>How do you pay it back
If you "lose everything" then two guys from the NYSE show up at your house and start ripping the copper out of your walls.

>> No.18974715
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>>18974491
Not again.

>> No.18974724
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18974724

Which stocks to profit off this?

>> No.18974730

>>18974687
And they also won't have it tucked away in market purgatory at the risk of losing a substantial portion of it in case of an emergency or waiting 10 years for a recovery, assuming we don't permanently flatline after all this is said and done.

>> No.18974739

>>18974335
they give you money to gamble the markets. its house money, enjoy

>> No.18974749

>>18974730
then i think it would be best for you to put your money back in your savings account and do something better with your time like maybe returning to /cvg/ and doompost

>> No.18974799

>>18974724
RTX and KTOS

>> No.18974878

>>18973690
>>18972744
Daily reminder tanker niggers are retarded and bought high and are going to end up selling low once they realize countries are just paying to expand storage now.

>> No.18974887

Stinkie linkies did it again. They are over 4 dollars

>> No.18974912
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>>18974749
Buddy, global markets are hitting resistance and correcting down starting now. There's been tons of historical precedence on bounces and corrections, you're actually just going to get hurt having skin in the game right now. TA and FA are pointing towards a world of hurt.

>> No.18974915
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18974915

>>18974878
>bought high

>> No.18974952

>>18974431
>>18974469
>>18974478
Wow you retard you realize if the FED wasn't pumping we would be experiencing deflation to such a huge degree it would wreck housing since deflation drives down the prices of housing.

>> No.18974960

>>18972778

Chad move is Tvix order for Monday .. sell at 1000$ then buy mortgage debt bonds ..

>> No.18974964
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18974964

Are gfs good investments?

>> No.18974968

>>18974912
Stop it already, everyone who tries to see things critical is a permabear and a retard in his opinion. That's the current understanding and consesus for everyone who isn't buying into this trap.

>> No.18974977

>>18974915
>conveniently leave out the selling low part
It's not even 4/20 you dumb faggot.

>> No.18974991

>>18974952
Why would you (you) me. Are you fucking retarded?

>> No.18974992

I feel like shorting SIX on Monday. Someone convince me not to.

>> No.18975005

>>18974964
is that real

>>18974912
I want stock prices to go back down so that I can buy more of them :3

>> No.18975009

>>18974964
No, especially now covid-19 has made the average craziness of women and put it in overdrive. I'm watching chicks act like they are having mid life crises because they can't get enough attention these days.

>> No.18975030

>>18974964
Not really.

>> No.18975037

>>18974991
Because if the FED sat around doing nothing it would be more devastating.

>> No.18975217

Realistically, why don't you just put all your money into a S&P tracker and make regular deposits? You'll still make bank, probably more than you would now, only without the risk of losing every penny.

>> No.18975244

>>18975217
>all your money
need some in bonds
>why don't you
its pretty much the smartest move but some people like playing with some extra money, going to a casino isn't a smart move but it can still be fun

>> No.18975247

>>18975217
>implying we're not all doing that and gambling our spare change in meme stocks

>> No.18975267

>>18975037
You can check 2 statements, it is a fucking fact, nothing to argue about.

Furthermore...nobody knows the long term effects of the insane amounts of QE, stimulus packages and repo injections. Time will tell.

>> No.18975283

>>18972778
this assumption is flawed

>> No.18975286

>>18975217
ok boomer

>> No.18975294

>>18975217
Become getting much better returns for less risk is fairly trivial

>> No.18975316

>>18975294
Because*

>> No.18975319
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This crypto board makes me laugh ever day

>> No.18975323
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>>18975217
All my tax-advantaged money is in diversified index funds.

>>18975244
>>18975247
You guys underestimate how stupid people on /biz/ are

That dude posting pics of him speculative shit like TVIX in his Roth IRA. He called me retarded because I pointed out that was a bad idea

I wonder how that's doing with the S&P popping

>> No.18975363

>>18974964
I refuse to belive mericans are this cucked

>> No.18975390

>>18975363
You would be sadly mistaken.

>> No.18975391

>>18975267
QE was going on before this and if people didn't give a shit about TARP under Obama wtf makes you think they will care now?

>> No.18975394

>>18975363
stfu and do your laundry cuck

>> No.18975420

>>18975394
I unironically let women do this I dont even fucking know what those handles on washing machine do

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>>18974244
this.

>> No.18975504
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18975504

>>18974952
It took YEARS for deflationary pressure capitulation to bottom the housing market, and it was explicitly effected by the GFC. Assets behave differently due to currency pressures. Housing is very viscous and thus pricing doesn't respond rapidly.

>> No.18975529

anyone been parking their cash in money markets? never ever touched them but now can be the time. how are they compared to bonds in terms of risk and return?

>> No.18975537

>>18972599
guthrie govan on biz? nice

>> No.18975550
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18975550

>>18975504
>tfw bought in 2017

>> No.18975552

>>18975529
>money markets
the fuck is that

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18975553

Never trust a cat poster.

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>>18975553
he was right tho

>> No.18975603
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18975603

>>18975504
It took 8 years for consumer sentiment to recover from the GFC, as well, which will be the primary driving force of consumer leverage, and more importantly consumer demand for large purchases like housing and new cars. It's not unrealistic to expect similar behavior for some time from here.

>> No.18975645

>>18975323
>You guys underestimate how stupid people on /biz/ are
jk I'm all in puts baby yeeeah
*bankrupts*

>> No.18975658

>>18975603
whats the sentiment now? zero?

>> No.18975661

>>18972610
based egg succ

>> No.18975662

>>18975587
the 29th was the peak you retard

>> No.18975680

>>18975587
Uh, no he wasn't.
Major indexes were up that day, infact for the next three days before a moderate red day last week. Look at the charts.

>mfw all my tickets were green everyday last week

>> No.18975690

>>18975363
>>18975390
retards

>> No.18975691

Well the auto market is fucked now anyway. New cars cost out the ass, used cars are in oversupply, people are keeping cars longer cause either they don't have the money to splurge on a new/newer one, or cause the car they got now is in good shape and will last longer still due to environmental factors (where you live,less driving,etc)

>> No.18975714

>>18975661
you don't say. can't wait for the new thread.

>> No.18975721

>>18975323
Congrats on being clinically retarded bro.

>> No.18975730

>>18975714
what are the chances i'll get egg2suck

>> No.18975736
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18975736

Anyone here still in or getting back into some etracs positions? Before everything went to shit I held CEFZ and collected those nice monthly dividends. Luckily I was able to bail before it imploded and got accelerated. This week I started adding SDYL and even some SMHB, but much less of the latter because it looks like that could be an easy one to be accelerated. I always wanted SDYL but it seemed a little pricey. Hoping that if we get another ATH that could push over closer to $100 in time.

>> No.18975755

>>18975662
thats what start of the downtrend is called yes
>>18975680
>Look at the charts.
I guess we trade in different realities, but hey as long as we are both profitable

>> No.18975762

why did i stay in cash and miss out on the greatest recovery in human history?

>> No.18975768

>>18972883
this but unironically

>> No.18975769

>>18975736
nah I gave up on those

>> No.18975777

>>18975721
lmao how is that TVIX in your IRA treating you, bearlet

You got tricked into unironically listening to /biz/

>> No.18975789

>>18975777
OK inbred

>> No.18975804

>>18972599
Don’t ever make the thread again, newfag.

>> No.18975809

>>18974878
Someone investing today in tankers is way too late to the party. Downside risk huge

>> No.18975820

>>18975691
A Ford Expedition starts out at almost $50k now for the BASE MODEL. That's insane, they used to be a pretty standard family vehicle but $50k is firmly in the luxury price range.

>> No.18975839

>>18975755
his name was Silvio the Retard

>> No.18975846

>>18975755
His name was Silvio the Retard

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>>18975820
Wow, it's actually OVER $50K starting price

>> No.18975890

Is there free access to level 3 market data?

>> No.18975895

>>18975762
you're a scared, insecure idiot bobo

>> No.18975933

>>18975762
Better than shorting through the bounce at least

>> No.18975938

>>18973692
This is unironically it. They are slaughtering retail retards every single day.

>> No.18975962

>>18975769
I'm cautiously optimistic that the ones left standing will be ok if we are past the worst of the storm. The market cap on some of these have really drawn down and it's kind of amazing, but understandable, how hard they got hit. CEFL/CEFZ made me so much monthly income, really hoping something like that can return with these ones I'm adding. SMHD/SMHB looks risky as fuck but tossing a little in anyway. I remember at some point GME being the highest rating position in that tracking index fir SMHB, kek.

>> No.18975978

>>18975890
Not free, bot I had it with IB and it was totally pointless for me lol

>> No.18975990

>>18974587
There isn’t even any bear posting and you retarded newfags are already moaning about it. Permabulls are as stupid as permabears.

>> No.18976006

>>18975978
They are asking me for proof of income for the money that I want to put into the account. Fuck them.

>> No.18976010
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>>18975962
Meant to say, GME was the highest weighting in the index.

>> No.18976011

>>18975990
not as stupid by definition since markets are going up 80% of time.

>> No.18976057

>>18975962
all of my CEFL and SMHD was taken from me... I really liked my CEFL and now it is gone.
I don't want to fall in love again and risk losing everything

>>18975862
seems like a bad deal
as far as I know, the only things that US auto companies really make money on is trucks

>> No.18976063

>>18974964
>polls

>> No.18976097

>>18974912
Lmao get rekt bobo stonks only go up

>> No.18976100

>>18976006
yeah seriously fuck them, they offer 10000 tools and overly complicated menus and shit, you can trade with your own algos and other stuff to make you feel "professional" but all of that shit is totally pointless.

>> No.18976114

>>18976097
then how is SP500 down YTD?

>> No.18976121

>>18976057
I don't understand how US companies can't make money on cars when the Japs and Koreans can build them in their countries, pay to ship them around the world to the US, pay import fees and tariffs, sell them at a lower price than US domestic cars, and still make a profit on them.

>> No.18976142

>>18976114
Rocket ship had to refuel retard bobo

>> No.18976149

>>18975804
What don't you like about it?

>> No.18976163

>>18976100
I had an IB account for a while but ended up never using it because the E-Trade app was less clunky and more intuitive than the IB app.

>> No.18976164

>>18976142
>>18976097
How does every permabull on this board sound like the biggest retard on the planet?

>> No.18976169

>>18976142
> blind short Jan 1st would still be green
> contradicts himself
> calls someone retard
typical bubble bull behavior

>> No.18976180

>>18976121
aren't many Jap and Korean cars made in the US tho...

>> No.18976181

>>18976164
>bobo cope

>> No.18976186

>>18976164
well theyre not permabulls, theyre stock permabulls. You see permabulls who have brain capacity to swap markets when the time is right are quite smart

>> No.18976188

>>18976164
>>18976169
tiresome bearNIGGER cope yet again
sorry about your 4/17 puts, and your 5/1 and your 5/15s now lmao

>> No.18976220

>>18976180
Yeah, Toyota and their satellite plants are big employers in the U.S. and Mexico.

>> No.18976226

>>18974964
That image turned me gay

>> No.18976230

>>18976180
Yeah they have a lot of manufacturing plants in the US but they also import a lot of cars here as well. They can make money either way so the US auto makers don't have any excuse for not being able to make a profit on smaller vehicles.

>> No.18976245

>>18976226
man love is best love

>> No.18976247

>>18976163
yep, same, at some point i had both IB and OH accounts and the old OH interface was super simple and intuitive so i ditched IB.

>> No.18976261

>>18976057
Did UBS send you a check for the redemption amount? Or did you broker somehow credit your account when it all went down? I sold it back in either late February or early March and didn't see that they closed it until a few weeks after the fact.

>> No.18976266
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18976266

>>18976181
>>18976188
Never play against the trend. You can make money on and upward trend and a downwarn trend, imagine that.

>> No.18976268

>>18976188
had neither of those but if its only thing that works in your fantasy so be it

>> No.18976277

>>18976230
Ford does. Half it’s sales are outside the US. The fiesta and the ranger are big global sellers.

>> No.18976297

>>18976266
Wew, look at that tech bubble

>> No.18976307

>>18976261
the money goes into your brokerage account
I think, I didn't really check
I'll make sure when RH sends me my 2020 tax info
I only had a couple hundred dollars worth

>> No.18976324

>>18976266
If you don't work for finance, healthcare (for now), microsoft, apple, amazon, alphabet, facebook, or zoom you are a non essential worker and parasite to society

>> No.18976338

>>18976266
WHAT'S WRONG BOBBIE BOBO?
YOU TRYING TO COPIE COPIE?
DOING SOME PEE PEE POO POO COPIE COPIE AREN'T YOU?

>> No.18976351

>>18976266
>a downwarn trend
the problem here is this chart has no ceiling so whats the probability of it going to 30 vs 15? I stay shorting something else for now

>> No.18976362

>>18976266
>index is concentrated in the few stocks best positioned to weather the virus work-from-home recession best
Sounds like a good thing. Go long

>> No.18976388

>>18976351
Right now only intraday trading is the real deal... as long as SPY doesnt break out of 2950 or of 2790 we have nothing to do. Neutral zone sucks.

>>18976338
You ok?

>> No.18976393
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18976393

How do I leverage the pic related bull market?

>> No.18976432

>>18976393
buy hornet suits

>> No.18976437

>>18976388
but isnt intraday boring and still vs overnight rn? u selling options? I tried theta burning and its not that profitable, I got bored

>> No.18976438

>>18976393
just don't live on the west coast
added benefit that you won't die in the great earthquake of 2020

>> No.18976472

>>18976432
>buy hornet suits
sent ;)
>>18976438
>just don't live on the west coast
fug

>> No.18976496
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18976496

I got fucked today, biz... and not in a good way...

>> No.18976508
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18976508

>be a bobo
>buy right when you see the dip forming
>short right before the dip goes green
>panic sell your position
>lose money
god bobos are fucking retards that will never make it

>> No.18976543

>>18976438
but don't go to pennsylvania tough, there'll be a nuclear accident next month

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18976573

>>18972599
Momo a qt.

>> No.18976605

Was yesterday the lowest volume green day on SPY since the crash began? On the same day it gapped over the 290 resistance?

>> No.18976650

>>18976605
May 6th was. But not by much.

I expect a dump soon. Hopefully monday.

>> No.18976674
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18976674

>bear for the next 1-2 months
>bull for the 3d and 4th quarter
>holding long term calls, and in the short term, selling calls and holding puts
The coming vaccine is going to change everything. 30k dow by december.

>> No.18976680

Before I start my wagie shift, I want to point out that the GEX dropped sharply while the S&P went up friday. That almost guaranteed a large downturn next week

>> No.18976717

>>18976674
I agree with

>bear for the next 1-2 months
>bull for the 3d and 4th quarter

But why do you think a vaccine will be coming? Just a wild guess?

>> No.18976721

>>18976674
>The coming vaccine is going to change everything.
how does vaccine change declining demand on goods and services and improves delinquencies rates back to 2017 lvls ?

>> No.18976748

>>18976674
This is the same backwards logic Wall St. had back in March.
>we will solve this health crisis with economic tools (Money printer)
Now
>we will solve this economic crisis with health tools
The Big 3 are heavily manipulated and passively invested in. Literally look at how the Russell is doing relative to this shit.

>> No.18976780

how much can we expect oil to tank next week? Looking to get some RDS.B

>> No.18976848

>>18976717
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/iibr-completes-development-phase-of-covid-19-vaccine-626913
>>18976748
We've only been down for two months. And even without the cure, things are starting up again. I think the system is resilient enough to recover.

>> No.18976857

>>18976780
30%

>> No.18976998

>>18976848
>The facility can reportedly be built "in the very near future," even before IIBR completes full development and approvals for its coronavirus vaccine, which it predicts will be in early 2021.

>https://www.jpost.com/health-science/israeli-scientists-in-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101

They are already not credible anymore.

>>18976437
Making money is never boring for me, but you don't get an adrenalin rush from it, lmao...selling and buying options on a handful of stocks, which are doing me some good profit.

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>>18976680
The Gecko has chosen

>> No.18977025

>>18976998
>Making money is never boring for me, but you don't get an adrenalin rush from it
I just dont like doing trivial thing over and over, Im that lazy

>> No.18977037

>>18976780
>>18976857
When does the June contract expire? Isn't that a couple weeks from now or so?

>> No.18977047

>>18977037
>Isn't that a couple weeks from now or so?
20smthn IIRC

>> No.18977091
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18977091

Tesla CEO Elon Musk said Saturday the company will file a lawsuit against Alameda County and threatened to move its headquarters and future programs to Texas or Nevada immediately, escalating a fight between the company and health officials over whether its factory in Fremont can reopen.

Tesla had planned to bring back about 30% of its factory workers Friday as part of its reopening plan, defying Alameda County’s stay-at-home order.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/09/elon-musk-threatens-to-pull-tesla-operations-out-of-california/

SWEET JESUS

>> No.18977093

>>18977037
>>18977047
May 19th

>> No.18977101

>>18977047
>20smthn
What does that mean

>> No.18977112

>>18977101
means I was close but not quite right >>18977093

>> No.18977131
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18977131

Just over here with some crayons, PCEC is looking kinda scary, massively dropping off with consumer sentiment. A snap drop-off to 05/2017 levels. Kind of interesting as this didn't occur during the GFC or apparently the dotcom, though PCEC96 only tracks '02+. PCE doesn't indicate substantial movement through the dotcom pop.

>> No.18977142

>>18977091
Bullish as fuck

>> No.18977144
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>>18977091
Based Musk

Fuck the government

>> No.18977166

>>18977091
Even Tesla is terrified to deal with the Cult of Musk

>> No.18977176

>>18977144
>Based Musk
>Fuck the government
Musk would be homless without govt subsidies, he gets govt dolladollas even for employing workers lol

>> No.18977182

>>18977091
Actually bullish, NV has great laws for manufacturing and mining considering what these big boy miners get away with.

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18977197

serious question... do you guys jack off more during the trading week or during the weekend?

>> No.18977207

>>18977144
Tesla has been coasting for years on GIBBS. The company still is not solvent. The "profit" they posted this quarter was to cash in tax credits that were part of green energy GIBBS from years ago.

>> No.18977211

>>18977197
no correlation, depends how much Im working out and whether ladies are present

>> No.18977262

>>18977091
Yes, bring your factories and high paying jobs to Texas, we welcome big business in this state. Continue the exodus of businesses from the west coast liberal islands and seek refuge in red states that actually encourage businesses to make profits.

>> No.18977295

>>18977262
Texas would straight up actively work to undermine Tesla at every opportunity given its massive oil/energy sector component. The company only located in California because it could get endless green energy/carbon credit GIBBS

>> No.18977297

I for once welcome Elons move, his mental issues will confirm that no Tesla factory ever be giga factory and will never be finished building of a promised giga size

>> No.18977340

>>18977197
I can't even remember the last time I thought about sex

>> No.18977350

I fucked up guys. Why do brokers allow retards to mess with options?

>> No.18977386

>>18977262
No fuck that. Then it brings thousands of liberal trannies with it. Nevada can have it, leave Texas alone

>> No.18977401

>>18977350
Because RH did first with few restrictions as possible. Probably because they sold the user data to other brokerages.

>> No.18977407

>>18977340
Based celebate finance monk.

>> No.18977411

>>18977091
newsome will cave. alameda county is retarded. elon is also bluffing.

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Got the covid antibody test yesterday bros. If it comes back positive I assuredly infected hundreds of people at two different international airports, my flight, and multiple businesses in my home town back in mid February.

>> No.18977428

>>18977386
Nevada is already fucked bud, hopefully some of these fleeing liberal morons get an idea about how much better life is without california retardation but Im not holding my breath.

>> No.18977429

>>18977350
Who knows. I'm still wondering why they hand out margin accounts so easily. I've got $30k account value in E-Trade and an additional like $50k in margin purchasing power. All I did was hit an "Apply for margin access" button in my account settings and they added it to my account without even having someone call me to talk about it.

>> No.18977456

>>18977420
You can be pretty sure you haven’t had it already, because obesity causes more serious reactions

>> No.18977457

>>18977420
what companies were the businesses
what airline
any notable CEOs I can short?

>> No.18977466

>>18977429
Getting a loan, or increasing your credit card limit, is exactly as easy in some companies. They know they'll get you later if you fuck up, and you'll pay interest and lawyer fees, so why would they screen you? It's chump change for them anyway

>> No.18977467

>>18977429
boomer spotted

>> No.18977493

>>18977197
I sometimes jack off and come back to my broker screen and see that I made a few hundred bucks. Feels amazing.

>> No.18977497

>>18977429
The Robinhood margin is low key a better deal than the no fee trades.

>> No.18977516

>>18977429
The only "oh shit, should they actually get this?" credit screening that happens any more is with home loans and only during economic downturns.

>> No.18977522

>>18977386
Texas is gonna go blue in the next 15-20 years because of Hispanics anyway

>> No.18977529

>>18977457
The time to short then was when I was dry coughing in their terminal/flight. It was SAVE, was flying home from las vegas.

>> No.18977531

>>18977211
>depends how much Im working out and whether ladies are present
good point.. but even with ladies they dont help much the stress release just isn't the same.. although i've been inna woods with a girl that was on her period.. as soon as I dropped her off I went and fucked some other chick that really wanted it.... huge stress relief

>>18977340
i dont normally think about sex either but girls seem to want to bother me for it... i think girls think more about sex than males.. i've read through messages of some of my friends that are girls that talk to other girls and a lot of it is always about guys and sex... guys seem to talk about other things more and have things on their mind..

like how the fuck can I think about sex at a time like when i just entered a trade... shit like that

>> No.18977535

>>18977350
>>18977429
Because it makes them money.

>> No.18977557
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18977557

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.18977582

>>18973821
I want to make a deposit on those soles

>> No.18977606

>>18977493
i actually did that the other day.. woke up.. entered into an /ng trade then fucked the chick next to me then 15 minutes later checked.. made $120 while having morning sex.. closed out my trade then went about my day

>> No.18977610

>>18977531
Im into girls with daddy issues if you know what I mean so "stress relief" is ensured.

>> No.18977613

What's the best way to profit from the leg down?

>> No.18977624

>>18977531
>thinking about sex
>jerk off
>don't think about sex for hours afterwards

My gf just keeps thinking about sex even after getting off whereas once I get off it's like a switch was flipped and sex doesn't interest me for a while afterwards.

>> No.18977633

>>18977606
120% based

>> No.18977636

>>18977531
>like how the fuck can I think about sex at a time like when i just entered a trade... shit like that
The closer I get to take profit the harder I get. Sometimes I have to jerk it

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18977706

been draining my balls all week

>> No.18977709

>>18977610
how do you know if she has daddy issues? honestly i've never understood this cause i even just googled it and thats like just about every chick

>> No.18977764

>Corporate Debt Nears a Record $10 trillion, and Borrowing Binge Poses New Risks
http://archive.is/ernJW
This aged well.

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18977771

That title page. KEK

>> No.18977792

>>18977091
PLEASE. That factory has destroyed my commute over the last few years.

>> No.18977795

>>18976998
>They are already not credible anymore.
Why not? The timeframe seems very plausible to me, if their vaccine is promising. Also, the statement was made in februari, so it could be imminent.

>> No.18977842

>>18977706
I love this image.

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>>18977771
What a bunch of doomer bitches, it's clearly a completely different scenario and I'm a fucking bear rn.

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>>18977771
We laugh at this absurdity, but the sad truth is we live in a society.

>> No.18977873

>>18977771
They are still droning on about Russia?

>> No.18977885
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18977885

Got 6.5 grand in my 401 and the company stopped matching for the year, should I just take it out while its free?
My strat is selling puts on stocksI like.

>> No.18977888

>>18977771
By reading this swill you become literally less informed

>> No.18977909

>>18977885
No, that's retarded

>> No.18977928

>>18977873
Gotta distract the sheep from realizing the Democrats are stealing billions/trillions, the Micheal Flynn case blew up in their faces, Roger Stones trial is under scrutiny again, and Biden is completely irrelevant.

>> No.18977957

>>18977091
>running critical business operations in California
Hope that's a lesson learned

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18977965

>>18977888
>tripps of truth
Indeed, that is the whole point. Aren't you feeling sleepy?

>> No.18978008

guys, im trying to recover mentally from the massive loss i have over the past 2 months ( about 4k usd) , whats the best thing to do ? i feel like quite trading because of that, buying those puts ate me alive , brent CFDs as well,

>> No.18978024

>>18974964
This is too real. Most American millenial women are absolutely helpless when it comes to domestic tasks. They can't cook for shit and are too busy fucking around on their phones all day (sometimes literally) to do things like laundry, cleaning, etc. Now, there are some definite exceptions to this, there are still women out there who would be helpful around the house, but most I know are a liability when it comes to domestic tasks.

>> No.18978031

>>18978008
stop trading amounts that are so large that they affect you mentally

>> No.18978041

>>18978008
unironically kys

>> No.18978064
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18978064

Be real with me /smg/
Are we just playing musical chairs until the handouts stop?

>> No.18978065

>>18977350
How bad?

>> No.18978071

>>18978031
not quite overleveraging, just market moved against me in the majority of trades (i trade the trend)
>>18978041
thats not nice, im not in a good state

>> No.18978090

>>18978008
Learn from your losses. Figure out why you lost so much money and don't do it again. You can't quit until you are in the green, that's the rule.

>> No.18978099

>>18978008
Eh, I was down $10k at one point but I've made that back and my account value is above what it was in February. If I hadn't made a couple of stupid trades I would've almost doubled my account value by now...

>> No.18978117

>>18977350
>I fucked up guys.
but was it in a good way...?

>> No.18978141

>>18978064
it's nothing like musical chairs
just find the best chair and sit in it
ignore the music

>> No.18978162

>>18978090
most of my long / short trades were all fantastic, but stop loss was tight so i was kicked out every time (brent)
I think the biggest mistake was to buy options while VIX is above 10-15 as the fear premium is not gone totally

>> No.18978170
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18978170

Is there any argument against buying TQQQ instead of QQQ?
Is there any argument against buying 2024 Calls on QQQ instead of QQQ?
What about 2024 calls on Amazon and Microsoft?

All of this reads like free money to me. Thinking about liquidating my QQQ, MSFT and AMZN position to buy calls instead.

>> No.18978188

>>18978071
If your losses effect you mentally then you are a dopamine fiend chasing your high from winning. Making gains should effect you no more than taking losses. You’re a gambler.

>> No.18978193

>>18978008
>4k
Let me tell you kid, thats literally fucking NOTHING. Just stop thinking about it, it is completely insignificant.

>> No.18978227

>>18978170
Yes. Did you not notice that TQQQ dropped 70% when QQQ only dropped 30%?

>> No.18978230

>>18978188
That's literally psychologically wrong. Look up "Loss Aversion". I'm not saying psychology is accurate or true but loss aversion is very normal and it does not make you a "gambler".

>> No.18978244

>>18978099
what did you do to make back the 10k?

>> No.18978263

>>18978193
Can you shut the fuck up? No one is impressed by you.

>> No.18978264

>>18978193
thats what i wanted to hear bro, thats what i try to think
>>18978188
my losses affect me mentally mostly because i cut my winners early, i could have quadruppled my account and yet im sitting on a loss, a big one for me

Question is, are you following some techniques to work on your psychology?

>> No.18978279

>>18978244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsQKGt8yREY

>> No.18978289

>>18978230
The reason he’s trading in risky amounts in the first place is because he’s chasing the rush of winning “big”.

>> No.18978301

>>18978227
Yes I did, but long term the entire stock market foes up so long term it really pays off to hold TQQQ instead of QQQ

Since 2012 you would have a 2500% ROI instead of a mere 250% from QQQ.
I don't know about any other play that has such high returns combined with such high odds of paying off.

>> No.18978313

>>18978263
>Impressed
Theres nothing to be impressed about fuck head. 4k is literally meaningless in the scope of your life.

>> No.18978327

>>18978244
Bought some junior gold miners along with MSFT, FB, and GOOGL when shit got really low. Shorted BA from $160 down to $120. Lost money trying to short PLAY, SIX, MAR, HLT, and CMG on the way up and lost a little more on the tanker meme.

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>>18978227
>>18978301
So is this the only argument? Obviously leveraged shit has higher downside risk but with even the most volatile market going up in the long run, it seems like the obvious play.

It's the equivalent of some real estate fag buying 10 houses on credit and becoming a millionaire in a few years, just without the hassle.

>> No.18978336

Talk me out of buying 5k in July 35 july vix puts

>> No.18978341
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new

>>18978316
>>18978316
>>18978316
>>18978316

>> No.18978348

>>18978327
>junior gold miners
nice. which ones?

>> No.18978365

>>18978348
Got in IAG at $1.80, jumped in on KGC and EGO a little later.

>> No.18978395

>>18978301
>>18978331
This is pure hindsight thinking. We were in an unprecedented decade long bullrun. If you subtract the last decade and try and make guesses, you would never believe leveraged ETFs would have rocketed so high.

>> No.18978403

>>18978331
Look up "volatility drag". That's the reason TQQQ is short-term hold instead of long term

>> No.18978423

>>18978264
Your gains or losses shouldn’t trigger you. It should all be very boring with strict profit/loss percentages that you set beforehand. If you are getting excited over a trade, stop and reevaluate.

>> No.18978488

Shill me on MITT and RWT. Will they recover to pre corona levels or go down even more? They were a steady asset for years before the lockdown.

>> No.18978518

Should I buy a US tech sector ETF for fat growth?

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>>18977842
Yeah I'm pretty happy about it myself

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>>18978488
Lol I owned RWT right before the crash

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>>18978669
Ok

>> No.18979022

>>18978170
>Is there any argument against buying 2024 Calls on QQQ instead of QQQ?

This a good move is you're bullish. You can get the same or even better leverage than TQQQ without TQQQ's decay.

>> No.18979253

>>18978301
Everything I've read about leveraged ETFs says they lose money with increased volatility, and they are only meant to be held for 1-7 days. Rebalancing and fees drain your capital away

I'm fixated on this idea too, anon, but it seems too good to be true. If it were, you could live off 10-20k divided up between a good number of well performing ETFs, and that just doesn't sound right.