/tsg/ Tanker Stock General

[Anonymous No.18881534]

I have a near 100% exposure to oil tankers and that Trump tweet nearly killed me edition

>Education
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/012316/crude-tankers-business-transporting-oil.asp
https://lawexplores.com/the-tanker-market-current-structure-and-economic-analysis/
https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/what-triggered-oil-price-plunge-2014-2016-and-why-it-failed-deliver-economic-impetus-eight-charts

>Maritime/tanker news
https://lloydslist.maritimeintelligence.informa.com/
https://www.tradewindsnews.com/tankers/
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/
https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/2013/02/tanker-track.html

>Companies (not exhaustive or recommendations)
https://www.frontline.bm/
https://www.tenn.gr/
https://www.euronav.com/
https://www.dhtankers.com/
https://www.nat.bm/
https://www.teekay.com/business/tankers/
https://www.scorpiotankers.com
https://www.sflcorp.com/

> Earnings report expected today
DHT, after hours.

> Upcoming earnings reports calendar
STNG on 5/6, pre-market
EURN on 5/7 (time not specified)
FRO on 5/14, pre-market
NAT on 5/18 (time not specified)
TNK on 5/21, pre-market
SFL on 6/2 (time not specified)
TNP on 6/4, pre-market

Previous thread:
>>18867357

[Anonymous No.18881578]

someone hold me

[Anonymous No.18881603]

>>18881534
Fuck Trump
He's RUINED me

[Anonymous No.18881614]

I'm voting for Biden in november now.

[Anonymous No.18881618]

DHT chads, which color will your Lamborghini be?

[Anonymous No.18881634]

>>18881534
I'm so fucking annoyed. Those oil fags will crash.

[Anonymous No.18881646]

Why is a spesific type of stock it's own general? Did they boot you out from /smg/?

[Anonymous No.18881659]

>>18881534
Should i just forget about these guys? Im not even mad because im up 150% today thanks to MVIS but fuck i was hoping i could print at least some from these fuckers before expiration date

[Anonymous No.18881666]

BLOMPF WHAT ARE YOU DOING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.18881675]

>>18881534
Alright anons. The moment if truth is at hand. DHT earning are coming in when the makers close. It'll shed light on what the situation really is

[Anonymous No.18881683]

>>18881618
i think chad is the wrong description for DHT bagholders

[Anonymous No.18881704]

>>18881675
what time exactly?

[Anonymous No.18881709]

>>18881618
My Porsche will be gentian blue metallic.

[Anonymous No.18881718]

>>18881646
Containment thread for the tanker autism. We'll see if it's justified.

[Anonymous No.18881746]

>>18881646
those faggot bobos at /smg/ can stay poor

[Anonymous No.18881764]

>>18881683
>bagholding
Yeah, get fucked. I've done my DD enough to know that these "bags" are worth their weight in tendies.

[Anonymous No.18881785]

>>18881764
negative oil was a once in a lifetime event, if you think the peak is the in the future then youll be losing money for decades

[Anonymous No.18881802]

>>18881785
Stop being clinically retarded please. Or leave these threads. Either way, this isn't the place for you.

[Anonymous No.18881805]

I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE TANKERCHADS MORE LIKE TANKERVIRGINS

[Anonymous No.18881814]

>>18881764
This image is very cunny indeed. And my bags are full of dosh and oil. Afterhours will be magical, fellow DHT chads. They're going to report earnings so high that they are effectively debt free.

[Anonymous No.18881824]

Honestly I am not even losing much money on DHT. My FRO and NAT shitcoins though are costing me 450 dollars and dragging me down near 6%. This was all a hair trigger low volume reaction, I am not sold in the least that tankers deserve tanking. Wait till earnings. I have a weak disposition and wanna cry, but we are holding until it is time.

>>18881618
Neon Green because I can.

[Anonymous No.18881827]

WHAT AM I GOING TO TELL MY WIFE AND HER SON. DHT HAS RUINED ME

[Anonymous No.18881830]

>>18881659
Wait until earnings (today after hours). I'm really certain they'll shit gold. If not then we're all in this together :^)

[Anonymous No.18881831]

>>18881802
Why not just counter my argument with some type of logical response in favor of your position? Oh wait... you don't because you cant.

[Anonymous No.18881846]

>tankers are shilled by degenerate cunnyposters
>it crashes
figures.

[Anonymous No.18881847]

I am also holding but I'm honestly pretty mad right now

[Anonymous No.18881856]

>>18881831
That would require that you have any argument whatsoever instead of arguing that water is a toxic substance.
>>>/r/eddit/

[Anonymous No.18881857]

Remember, don't panic sell, if we don't get our golden bull run, we're still in a oil glut.

>“From here on, demand will likely improve slowly, and the supply side adjustment is likely to gather pace,” the investment bank continued. “The rebalancing will likely be drawn out and have its fits and starts but it will be rebalancing nonetheless.”

https://www.investing.com/news/commodities-news/crude-oil-surges-greatest-mismatch-in-supplydemand-at-end-2160955

[Anonymous No.18881869]

I have probably 1/3 of my portfolios calls expiring on the 15th this month. How bad is the crush for that time frame??

[Anonymous No.18881879]

>>18881785
lightning is more likely to strike the same person twice. weird, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.18881894]

>>18881856
the demand for oil increasing and production being cut in the USA isnt a valid argument to you? Why not just pretend to argue in favor of your position instead of coping with insults?

[Anonymous No.18881921]

>>18881894
>the demand for oil increasing
on what basis?
>production being cut
is it actually enough?

[Anonymous No.18881925]

>>18881831
We have already won.

[Anonymous No.18881948]

>>18881925
Yeah, and isn't there normal per day like 30k? This is 10x that.

[Anonymous No.18881975]

>>18881921

>oil price and gas prices rising back up significantly

No anon, everyone else is wrong and you're right. It's not enough. You're going to make so much money shorting oil when it was -$30/barrel.

[Anonymous No.18881986]

>>18881948
Yeah, even lower sometimes. $7800k/day is DHT's fleet averaged break even point.

[Anonymous No.18882013]

>>18881986
>$7800k
meant $7.8k

[Anonymous No.18882018]

>>18881921
>on what basis?
economies all over the world are reopening
>is it actually enough
obviously the market thinks it is as oil is mooning and tankers are tanking

[Anonymous No.18882046]

Dear Tanker faggots,

Why did you trick me? Did you enjoy your little ruse? My children will be starving for the foreseeable future because daddy decided to go all in on DHT and FRO. Why would you do this to me tankergang? Can you look into the eyes of little Johnathan and tell him he’s not going to get any tendies until Christmas? Explain yourselves. Why did you think tankers were going to moon?

Sincerely,

A gullible faggot

[Anonymous No.18882074]

>>18881986
Fucking insane. These earning are going to catch so many people off guard. If a company can manage with 7.8k per day rates, then gets 300k per day rates (38x gains) then their EPS is going to be ridiculously high.

[Anonymous No.18882076]

>>18881975
>speculation is price
>not realizing you can get barrels of oil for a dollar or two still
>not realizing gas is a business and they charge what they can because no one is using it too.

Oil is on a massive bubble.

>>18881869
It's okay, not counting margin, I am like 75% in it. I can't believe what FRO and NAT are doing today.

>>18881830
I heard of buy the rumor sell the news before, but this is before the news and from some of the best news out there.

[Anonymous No.18882101]

>>18882046
You don't lose money if you don't sell

[Anonymous No.18882115]

>>18881534
I took a flight over the SF Bay are recently. Other than boomer yachts moving around the only things floating out within and outside the bay are oil tankers. Down quite a bit so I hope this hit picks up because I really don't see how it won't.

[Anonymous No.18882137]

>>18882076

Nice cope. "Speculation" dictates the liquidity of the market which dictates the price. They're prone to volatility but ultimately are relied upon as the baseline for a going rate. You bought tanker stock when oil had gone sub-zero and all of the boomer rags were publishing articles about how tankers were making big bucks storing oil. Pause and think about that.

[Anonymous No.18882141]

>>18882076
MAKE IT FASTER ME WANT GAINS NOW. THAT MEAN TODAY. GIVE GAINS NOWWWWWWW AHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.18882150]

>>18881975
>>18882018
Literally where is it? The only big source I see is California, and that's speculative only. They need to go for the tiered approach. I don't see it being enough. The real cause for the CA open up is likely a depletion of their state funds, and it will be disastrous.

>obviously the market thinks it is
the market has its pants on its head, if you haven't noticed. Not that it should be doing anything different.
>fucking ZM, TSLA, BA, etc.
I was going to say RDS.B but it actually looks to be better. Boomer Bufftard capitulated, Powell has stated likely low rates for years, dovish as shit, major corps unable to give guidance, & co-movement higher than ever.

[Anonymous No.18882157]

>>18881824
Have iron hands. The flesh is weak, brother.

[Anonymous No.18882184]

>>18882150
>the market has its pants on its head,
the market doesnt care about your feelings, if you want to minimize losses you need to exit tanker positions now, earnings will never be higher and no one buys after earnings

[Anonymous No.18882207]

What trump tweet?

[Anonymous No.18882229]

Should I buy in now? DHT or FRO?

[Anonymous No.18882275]

>>18882074
It's gonna be great.
>>18882046
Just wait till after hours, you frail girl. If DHT doesn't perform (above expectations) you can always feed your kids that huge tanker divvy.
>>18882184
Ye of little faith (or a sufficiently high IQ) can leave.

[Anonymous No.18882277]

>>18882074
I want to believe.

[Anonymous No.18882283]

>>18882157
every time i see this FUD my hands grow stronger.

>>18882184
>the market doesnt care about your feelings
c'mon dude, read. now i know you're just seething. I said the market will do what it wants and that's just fine
>Not that it should be doing anything different.
The music stops when the contracts expire, and I have strong feeling it's going to be chaos again.

[Anonymous No.18882305]

>>18882207
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1257650279740301314

[Anonymous No.18882327]

>>18882275
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand holding tankers after an ATH event
kek

[Anonymous No.18882351]

>>18882275
Why does this guy take the approach everything is going to open up.


Thats just cheerleading by the president and other world leaders to benefit our collective psychology, especially for states that have far extended lockdowns.


Theres going to be an oil back going on for years, and these tankers will still keep operating, especially with SA not abiding by opec cuts.

Could we see DHT go back to 2008 levels? 150 by 2021?

[Anonymous No.18882372]

>>18882351
>Why does this guy take the approach everything is going to open up.
because he's right

[Anonymous No.18882380]

Diamond hands until mid-June - TNP/INSW chads RISE UP

[Anonymous No.18882439]

>>18882351
imagine prone-boning her as her entire backside ripples like a big tub of pudding

[Anonymous No.18882451]

>>18882137
Because that going rate did so well for oil last rollover. Oil tankers have yet to prove their earnings. A big fleet I should say.

>>18882141
I am fine waiting, I am just upset at this gigantic red dildo. How they are apparently being assessed at or below pre-crisis levels price-wise makes no sense when erasing debt and making x10 their upkeep.

>>18882157
I am holding anon, it just isn't comfy. I wanna be comfy for once in this market. Even if I believe in the cause and want other anons to hop aboard and profit, it doesn't erase not being comfy.

>>18882229
Yes. DHT mostly, but FRO too. This is one hell of a discount.

[Anonymous No.18882460]

>>18882351
Take into account that they did a reverse split in 2012 so corrected it is about 80. Still, I think those numbers are highly possible with the profits they are making now. I wouldn't be surprised when dht gets rid of its debt.

[Anonymous No.18882470]

>>18882351
>Could we see DHT go back to 2008 levels
No, those levels are an illusion due to dilution from convertible senior notes. DHT and most other tanker companies had to take on a lot of debt to survive the financial crisis.

[Anonymous No.18882486]

>>18882460
fuuuuuuuuuck 80 i'd be so damn rich please don't say that just let it happen

[Anonymous No.18882500]

>>18881534
Bought some more DHT at 7 just now.

[Anonymous No.18882528]

>>18882500
Gonna get a bottle of wine before calling into the conference tonight. You niggas in as well?

[Anonymous No.18882559]

can some big-brained option bro tell me if this is even within range of being correct?

[Anonymous No.18882566]

>>18882470
this

[Anonymous No.18882580]

>>18882451
I hold babby portfolio of 6 FRO and 8 DHT after research I did yesterday. I'm considering shifting from oil into more tankies if oil rebounds a bit. or maybe just putting some equity in entirely

[Anonymous No.18882589]

>>18882528
cringe

[Anonymous No.18882623]

>>18882486
It was a 12 to 1 reverse split...
So all time high 20 years ago was like $15. DHT isn't a good long hold.

[Anonymous No.18882637]

OH NO NO NO TANKERCUNTS WE GOT TOO COCKY

[Anonymous No.18882727]

>>18882559
Those estimates are correct, but it ain't ever gonna hit those prices.

[Anonymous No.18882736]

>>18882637
So why did they drop today?

[Anonymous No.18882828]

>>18882736
demand for tankers as a storage unit is gone, oil is being bought, oil is being used, things are returning to normal

[Anonymous No.18882853]

>>18882736
Because of this faggot saying these faggotty things. Also because Brent is up to $29 dollars and WTI is up to $25 dollars.

Tankers will shit the bed until/unless an apocalypse happens with June futures.

[Anonymous No.18882854]

>>18882736
fucking donald trump tweeted about oil
full stop. that's what happened

[Anonymous No.18882877]

>>18882828
>things are returning to normal
Get out of here Bill Mitchell, go see the doctor

[Anonymous No.18882888]

>>18882877
the market agrees with me, it does no agree with you

[Anonymous No.18882938]

>>18882888
Did you buy the dip?

[Anonymous No.18882951]

>>18882736
Oil price went up thus weakening the contango somewhat.

[Anonymous No.18882968]

>>18882853
fuck yeah i fucking love Trump, now retards are going to sell so i can buy cheaper shares, perfect time to go in

[Anonymous No.18882982]

>>18882853
Wtf bullshit are you shouting Trump. Why can't he just shut his mouth. Not only does he fuck things up from the natural order, but he is still wrong and it bites him in the ass every time making him look stupider.

[Anonymous No.18882993]

>>18882938
buy what? tankers? yeah and I sold them days ago at the peak

its fun watching you hold my bags

[Anonymous No.18883007]

>>18882982
>WAHHHH THE FLU AND TRUMP WAHHHH

[Anonymous No.18883010]

>>18882854
I just follow the fucker so that I know when to sell and short. It makes no sense as to why people will buy based on a tweet, let alone so many to have an obvious pump and dump effect.

[Anonymous No.18883016]

>>18882982
He's right though, libtard.

[Anonymous No.18883036]

>>18882968
>>18882982
It won't be earnings.
May 19, 2020.
Mark the date.
That is all I will say

[Anonymous No.18883110]

Ardmore Shipping beast EPS and revenue estimates
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/ardmore-shipping-asc-beats-q1-earnings-and-revenue-estimates-2020-05-05

>>18882828
>demand for tankers as a storage unit is gone, oil is being bought, oil is being used, things are returning to normal
kek. Is it normal to have a nation filled with 30 million newly unemployed people, to have the virus that started all this still circulating in the population?

[Anonymous No.18883123]

>>18883036
nah you say the reason or fuck off

[Anonymous No.18883152]

fellas are oil tanker firms seriously useless if the oil storage situation returns to normal? It has to have some good utility otherwise right?

[Anonymous No.18883188]

>>18883152
i think some pay dividends, but we may have bought in pretty high

[Anonymous No.18883251]

>>18883007
>>18883016
I am not liberal, I am right-wing. It upsets me because it disturbs the market and does make him look stupid. Like whenever he bragged about how strong the US economy was during a green day and the next it goes down 600 800 points. Or saying he does a great job at virus containment when a new death record is breached. He is trying to change sentiment and boost optimism, but in the end all he is actually doing is spouting bullshit that will get thrown into his face later and make everything worse.

>>18883036
Those bags will be heavy waiting for futures to expire if earnings don't give it a boost in the meanwhile. I know you are right, but we are supposed to see a small boost in the meanwhile. "Entry" surely should not be after +350% earnings estimates being beaten as will probably be the case.

[Anonymous No.18883313]

>>18883152
Its not going to return to normal until after next year. Think about it. These historic cutbacks in production and demand set off so many 2nd and 3rd order effects in play that its difficult to comprehend. Even if everything openned back up the lag in oil production and the volume of how much will still have to be stored by tankers is permutatively gaining sum until that point Oil gives all the indicators that it will make its full recovery.

[Anonymous No.18883349]

>>18883313
oil may not fully recover but the sudden glut caused by a variety a variables is not coming back get out now if you dont want to lose more money

[Anonymous No.18883393]

>>18883036
>>18883123
The reason is that's when June oil contracts stop being able to be traded. If oil is still in a bad way by then, people might trade it down to negative again.

[Anonymous No.18883428]

>>18883152
Transportation of oil. Unlike what most anons think, tankers don't suddenly loose business if oil prices go up. They have contracts set at fixed rates for an extended period of time, both for storage and shipping, with whomever they are in business with. As well, if oil demand goes up, though tankers are no longer needed as much for excess storage, they are now needed for transportation. Due to tanker availability, oil at a fire sale price (meaning people want it and they want it now), and other factors tankers won’t become valueless, or necessarily go back to pre-rona levels of business, in a fraction of a second. The being said, this market is super volatile. This morning is proof of that.

[Anonymous No.18883472]

>>18883110
It's a dogwhistle to his bros to reposition.
>>18883123
If you cannot figure out why this date is important, you should really stay away from oil in general because it's going to fuck you eventually.
>>18883152
No, they aren't useless, but every few years they go absolutely insane because of the contango game. Oil is a boom/bust industry that crabs like a motherfucker for years in between the action, then spikes hard causing the unaware to fall into a pothole or get fucked by a traffic cone. We're in a bust. If you bought in after February, you bought into the contango play, not the typical underlying business.
>>18883251
>we are supposed to see a small boost in the meanwhile
I agree, I have some very short term spreads designed to take advantage of earnings, but in all reality it may not happen. Market reaction to tankers, and oil in general, are mystery right now, the market should have reacted to demand/supply after seeing what happened in April. There must be some legitimate buy-in to this "worldwide V shaped recovery!" thing, but even if you predict recovery within a year, that still doesn't help the unavoidable truth that Q2 is going to be absolute oil insanity.

[Anonymous No.18883648]

>>18883472
just tired of people being fucking vague and larping as the next Q and i'm a little touchy from all this bullshit tbqhwy

[Anonymous No.18883676]

>>18883472
Well, those buy-ins are against every big person with a say in the matter, and recovery is looking very slim thanks to social distancing, unemployment, etc. Airlines being decimated too. Just who is demanding oil? How is the global supply ACTUALLY going to start going down? I think the oil prices atm is just speculative games, oil companies I got no clue why they keep going up, even exited some positions despite this as I just don't believe in it. Surely we are going to get a conference call of legends today and probably CNBC shilling tomorrow. I suppose low volume isn't helping one bit. I just wanna see some initial gains so I can go "well, I am ahead, I can hold" and sleep comfy at night. DHT was up 40 more cents pre-market from where it was at, gains were everywhere with tankers in general, I got no clue what happened later in pre-market and as market opened.

[Anonymous No.18883762]

Fuckkkk why did I use margin? I thought it was guaranteed money??

[Anonymous No.18883774]

I bought in to the tanker meme (DHT, FRO, STNG, and I already sold half my NAT around top @ $8.50)

So basically to sum all of the cope up on this thread, we’re all just holding on for divvies? All other hope is lost?

[Anonymous No.18883777]

i think we're getting anti-shilled like crazy at the moment
would love to see anyone making doom claims to post positions

[Anonymous No.18883811]

>>18883774
I am only holding on to DHT

[Anonymous No.18883824]

>>18883811
Me too. Earnings are going to be good and we are going to see other good shit happening in the future. Might take a while.

[Anonymous No.18883889]

Based shakeout absolutely decimating boomers who found about tankers from Cramer last week

[Anonymous No.18883912]

>>18883824
Marathon lost 9B dollaridoos yet is rising. Tankers will make bank and they are dumping. Makes you think

[Anonymous No.18883925]

>>18883889
if they fomo back in it'll take the entire drop today and add it onto the top of whatever pump happens

[Anonymous No.18883942]

>>18883912
marathon has potential for the future, tankers do not

[Anonymous No.18883952]

>>18883912

>one has already lost 80% this year due to fear and the other got overbought by like 200% due to a one-off cash in event that isn't going to sustain itself

You are truly the smart money

[Anonymous No.18883986]

>>18882305
That doesn't mean shit. Theres saudi vlccs arriving and no room in Oklahoma. Give it 10 days

[Anonymous No.18883994]

>>18883952
>>18883942
Still at a profit in both Marathon and DHT, monkeys. I have more trust in DHT than in Marathon at the moment.

[Anonymous No.18884004]

>>18883952
>due to a one-off cash in event that hasn't happened yet
ftfy

[Anonymous No.18884028]

>>18884004

It literally happened. They got paid to hold the temporary oversupply. Everybody knows that. This is basically a pump and dump.

[Anonymous No.18884123]

>>18883994
>Still at a profit
not for long, expect 5-6 dollar range by the end of the week for DHT

[Anonymous No.18884177]

>>18884123
Might even hit that but the fact is this oil glut isn't ending and tankers are making bank while nothing else is. We'll see tonight.

[Anonymous No.18884206]

>>18884177
>oil glut isn't ending
its over, take some good advice for once in your life, its okay that things didnt work out how you'd like but you have a chance of not letting them get worse

[Anonymous No.18884221]

>>18884206
Cope of the century, wew

[Anonymous No.18884269]

>>18884206
We'll see this month.

[Anonymous No.18884283]

>>18884206
>doesn't trust the tankers
You'll see

[Anonymous No.18884425]

can somebody explain this to me? these levels don't seem to match the underlying stock much at all, which has been almost completely flat during the same time period
are these prices driven at all by selling/buying activity of the specific option or are they 100% tied to the underlying stock?
the bottom is .10 and the top is .18

[Anonymous No.18884475]

>>18884425
sorry, not flat, but not matching
the price is .15 when the underlying was at 7.08, but back at .15 with the underlying down at 6.98

[Anonymous No.18884487]

well im cutting all tank positions depending on how dht earnings play out

[Anonymous No.18884534]

>>18884487
That's the correct way to do it.

[Anonymous No.18884545]

>>18883648
I'm a dick about oil because oil is the thickest, veiniest, meatiest dick of them all, and it has been that way for centuries. If I said "May 19 is when futures roll over and tankers make rents by accommodating delivery on current future prices if there is a large difference between the spot price and long term futures price" you would think that's all there was to it and sleep like a baby.
Oil is a cartel controlled commodity with very particular supply and demand side oddities. You cannot sleep on oil. Ever. Which is particularly exhausting because it does fucking nothing for long periods of time. I can absolutely guarantee you there are people who were successful in oil for years that got complacent and have been absolutely ruined between October 2019 and today.
>>18883889
It's this imho. That NAT pump from Cramer is probably what's behind this. Trump tries to counter this kind action, his tweets about oil have consistently been an attempt to mitigate short term downward trends.
>>18883952
>one-off cash in event
All you're doing is proving you don't know how tanker contracts work, that you didn't know that oil oversupply was an issue before COVID-19 was, and that tankers being able to pay of their debts with a cash influx is a good thing regardless of what happens going forward.

I would say you're trying to dissuade people, but why? Cramer and jewtube have already done the damage, and it's undoing itself on its own. Oil has pretty much recovered in price, boomers are spooked, and Trump is trying to squeeze the fuck out of speculators. These stocks aren't going significantly lower anytime soon.
>>18884425
babby's first small cap. DHT is one of the larger tanker companies and has a cap of 1B. Retail money can move the needle here, as NAT clearly demonstrated. This ride will not be smooth. If you don't have the stones for it, get out now.

[Anonymous No.18884564]

>>18884487
you wont know how they affect them until premarket and by then itll be too late

always sell the news

[Anonymous No.18884633]

>>18881857
This. Even if tommorow they go to the tankers and say "jk we need that oil now" they still collected 3x normal booking fees for months. Worst case scenario they've got the cash and have no need for additional employees

[Anonymous No.18884662]

>>18884545
>babby's first small cap. DHT is one of the larger tanker companies and has a cap of 1B. Retail money can move the needle here, as NAT clearly demonstrated. This ride will not be smooth. If you don't have the stones for it, get out now.
i'm just trying to understand it
when you say retail money can move the needle, do you mean by selling/buying the underlying stock, or the option itself?
this is babby's first option experience at all i'm just trying to glean as much knowledge as i can so even if i lose my ass i can approach the next opportunity knowing wtf happened the last time

[Anonymous No.18884696]

>>18884564
yes and its a risk im willing to take if theres better than expected upside

[Anonymous No.18884723]

When should I invest in bulkers?

[Anonymous No.18884765]

>>18884696
>if theres better than expected upside
there isnt

[Anonymous No.18884795]

>>18884765
Do you apply the buttcream before or after you post? What's your favorite way to relief your phenomenal butthurt?

[Anonymous No.18884797]

>>18884765
>21 posts by this id

[Anonymous No.18884821]

>>18884765
I needed this laugh

[Anonymous No.18884825]

>>18884797
just about to say the same thing
dude's been here for at least 2 hours

[Anonymous No.18884878]

>>18884765
>seething

[Anonymous No.18884948]

why would anyone be selling 4 hours before gigantic earnings...
why would you have held on this long only to sell now

[Anonymous No.18884964]

>>18884948
I'm holding until I die

[Anonymous No.18884974]

>>18884948
This. The only thing I'm unsure of is whether to just get out after the nut or keep holding long term

[Anonymous No.18884986]

>>18884948
fucking rigged game the oil cartel is playing. our time will fucking come witness me

[Anonymous No.18885001]

>>18884662
>do you mean by selling/buying the underlying stock, or the option itself
Both. If the price of the underlying stock drops, obviously the price of an option will increase or decrease depending on the type. If interest in an particular option increases or decreases, the price will again be influenced by supply and demand.

The price of options is also influenced by what is called volatility. DHT just experienced a significant and sudden price drop, which introduces risk into all options. Look at volatility this way. An option is you going "I wanna be able to buy this thing at this price in the future." If the price of the underlying thing starts going crazy, your risk increases but your potential gain increases. Thus, people selling options go "well I don't wanna get fucked if this think spikes and these options get executed" so they increase the price of the option to compensate.

Options are further influenced by decay. The less time left on an option, the less time it has to reach whatever strike price you predicted with the option. 6 months to hit the strike price is more risk to the options seller than 2 days, hence a 6 month option will cost a lot more and slowly lose that value over time. This is why people tell you not to use options to make long term bets.

Understand that options are designed as an instrument to hedge against adverse movement in a stock you'd want to buy at a certain price anyway. You're not using them this way, but that perspective will help you understand why they do what they do.

[Anonymous No.18885036]

>>18885001
so, somebody with a significant portion of a specific option could influence the price by putting them up for sale at a ridiculous number?

[Anonymous No.18885085]

>>18884545
>>18885001
thank you for responding to being called a larping faggot with real explanations

[Anonymous No.18885320]

>>18885036
>so, somebody with a significant portion of a specific option could influence the price by putting them up for sale at a ridiculous number?
Yes, but also understand that people with an interest can also influence the price by bidding options at a ridiculously low number. This is called the bid-ask spread. You really need to be keyed in to what you think they underlying stock is going to do and bid with a specific price in mind.

This is one of the reasons I think people lose a lot of money on ronbinhood. I personally really love their options trading platform because its minimalist and I can make quick movements even from my phone. However, it's really minimalist on the information it gives you; I have to go to a different platform to get my info. I don't think a lot of people do that, they just plug in whatever midpoint on the bid-ask spread robinhood shits out and think "well I guess that's the right price for this option =)." It's not.

I think somebody made a post about treating options like dirty hookers instead of ladies you're trying to date. If they don't give you what you want at the price you want, just keep driving, don't get suckered in by juicy tits and take a disease ridden skank out for a steak dinner. Oddly enough, this is the most apt analogy I have ever heard.

[Anonymous No.18885355]

>>18881534
Are you fuckers really hodling DHT through earnings? Is that wise? Buy the rumor sell the news

[Anonymous No.18885383]

>>18885355
If you bought the rumor your gains are mostly flat.

[Anonymous No.18885415]

>>18885355
I don't know, should I? The dividends seem sweet.

[Anonymous No.18885465]

>>18885415
>The dividends seem sweet

That is what I mostly don't understand about this sell off. The dividends are ludicrous even for this high-dividend market, and better yet they can definitively pay them off. How is this not attractive to investors right now? Who would sell this?

[Anonymous No.18885524]

>>18885465
only thing i can see is the WTI shit which continues to moon
which basically means fucking trump factor
although could that be a multiplier if WTI stays high until crashing back into the negative

[Anonymous No.18885613]

>>18881785
You mean a once in a month event. Those Saudi tankers are still on their way you know.

[Anonymous No.18885666]

are they going to keep this shit in the negative until close just so nobody can buy calls once it ramps or what?

[Anonymous No.18885677]

>>18885666
Satan NOOO!

[Anonymous No.18885692]

I'M 20% DOWN ON FRO WHEN WILL THIS SHIT GO BACK TO 12 BUCKS SO I CAN BREAK EVEN

[Anonymous No.18885782]

>>18885383
Precisely. My gains are flat and I don't want to be caught holding bags during earnings

[Anonymous No.18885875]

>>18885782
Fuck that if it dumps pre earnings and post fantastic earnings I will hold this shit just to spite the market and collect my divvies for a year

[Anonymous No.18885979]

>>18885875
gmi.

[Anonymous No.18886043]

>>18882351
I hope to at most x5 dht, but im not shure of anything
>pls me not lose money
All tankers down
Stng is down 8%, thats still higher than friday

[Anonymous No.18886112]

>>18883428
Very based and underrated

[Anonymous No.18886464]

Saudi tankers inbound choo chooooo

[Anonymous No.18886470]

>>18884948
People that already made a profit and hoped for a pre earnings pump
>almost everyone that knows about this and wants in is already in tho
Im getting really afraid here but its really not that bogged

[Anonymous No.18886515]

>>18886043
I feel like theyre keeping the prices low for a reason.. to keep people away from gains

[Anonymous No.18886682]

>>18886515
Nah its not that fucking bogged
I hope its people cashing out like i wrote up above
>I fear its insiders dumping
All these ship crews will have made massive gains and they will definitely talk to other ship crews

[Anonymous No.18886736]

>>18886515
ever seen this happen with anything else........

[Anonymous No.18886774]

>>18886682
if it was insiders they wouldn't have dumped on open and spooked retail away

[Anonymous No.18886813]

Guys, isn't the tanker hype similar to what's happening with stocks like ZOOM right now? These companies are going to have a boost in revenue due to this situation and normies were rushing in because of that but the catch is that it's not permanent. Share price reflects less the immediate present but rather the outlook of a company in the following years - the question is, will a spike in earnings for a few months in 2020 matter that much to the state of a company in, say, 2025? Especially if oil demand doesn't reach previous levels anymore and thuss less need for transportation, the core business of tankers.

[Anonymous No.18886945]

Tankers are done. The age of bulkers has begun.

[Anonymous No.18886950]

>>18886813
is facebook going to release an oil storage service

[Anonymous No.18887032]

>>18886774
Sounds logical

[Anonymous No.18887145]

>>18887032
the one thing that gives me pause is that DHT anon is MIA
haven't seen him on in a couple days, although i could have missed him
i'd think he'd be very active today
unless his job was to pump so they could dump this morning
i don't doubt DHT anon is there
not much to be done about it at this point though i guess

[Anonymous No.18887162]

If you retards seriously arent buying this dip because Trump made a shitpost you can go choke on a dildo. More money for me

[Anonymous No.18887209]

>>18887162
i'm already in up to my eyeballs

[Anonymous No.18887281]

>>18887145
Don't know if you mean me but I am waiting in patience for the conference later. Bought some more but want to stay liquid as well for swingtrading other stuff. Shit is going to moon the question is when.

[Anonymous No.18887303]

>>18887281
no DHT anon is the dude who pretty much started this whole thing and always posted with a pic of the fleet
he had a lot of specifics

[Anonymous No.18887405]

>>18887162
It’s not about Trump, it’s about the recovering oil prices and demand which will lower demand for tankers.

[Anonymous No.18887426]

If I go to a graph showing the oil prices, it's now at June 2020 and doesn't show it going to -39 or whatever is was. Can someone explain to me sorry

[Anonymous No.18887444]

Feeling pretty bogged every thing I invest in goes down while the market goes up. ;_;

[Anonymous No.18887455]

>>18882074
So much for efficient markets hypothesis / "priced in", otherwise we wouldn't be seeing the short action we are now. The whales are not trading on fundementals, and haven't been for a long time.
>>18882853
It's all psyop bluster. Even Obama would say similar stuff, maybe just better worded. People are behind 2 months on rent in many places, 40% didn't even get their stimulus checks, millions more still waiting for now back unemployment... who is going buying stuff? Definitely not businesses, and consumers get no money, and now no food / evicted. We have a freaking meat shortage now because of factories being closed, even brainlets can see this isn't going to return to normal overnight.

[Anonymous No.18887572]

>>18887444
iktf

DHT is just gonna slow decline to earnings and dump on open

[Anonymous No.18887651]

How the fuck is DHT down when they pushed their earnings report up TWICE and seem to have made like a hundred times the normal profit?
Do I just sell after earnings because we live in a fucking meme or is there some benefit to holding?

[Anonymous No.18887742]

My ass is bleeding but I still buy more DHT, is this normal guys?

I have over 1.5k my average fill. price is 7.08 will I be ok?

[Anonymous No.18887754]

>>18887651
They are either gonna increase the divvy or do share buy backs with a portion of the profits. The rest will go towards riding out this crisis or expanding

[Anonymous No.18887755]

>>18887651
Hold for the divvy date, its being pushed down so the whales can accumulate more. Easy to do when oil is up.

[Anonymous No.18887777]

>>18887742
if you think it’s bleeding now just wait until open tomorrow

[Anonymous No.18887780]

>>18887651
The company has been losing value since inception. They did a reverse split back in 2012. Its not a profitable business or a properly run company, just some easy career for fat lazy old boomer sailors to chug through life with.

[Anonymous No.18887825]

>>18887777
checked for tanker holocaust

[Anonymous No.18887836]

>>18887777
Why you fuck? Earnings are supposed to be good, also Jesus loves me.

[Anonymous No.18887900]

>>18887836
people sell the news usually

[Anonymous No.18887970]

>>18887162
I can't buy anymore. I literally can't. Otherwise I would. I am too poor, I can only own 300 shares of DHT, FRO, and NAT. It won't be enough to make it, but so long as I get a launchpad I will be happy.

>>18887651
It doesn't make sense. It truly does not, which is why this 7% loss atm doesn't feel real to me.

>>18887754
I actually want stock buybacks more than divvies, because realistically we will only milk one or two, PERHAPS 3 divvies out of this thing before bull run ends.

>>18887900
>Sell the news
What do you call this massive sell off? Buying the rumor? There isn't a sell the news stage without buying the rumor. Plus the news is so big they shouldn't ignore it.

[Anonymous No.18887990]

>>18887405
It hasn't though, that's the thing. There is a literal pileup of tankers off the coast, and more coming in every day from saud.
>>18887777
Checked. But why?
> Amazing earnings
> Debnts paid
> Fundementals improve across the board
> Company does well,
> Stonk goes down?
Wayfair went from $130 to $180 today and their earnings report was like "hey gross is up 20% but we lost money lol", meanwhile oil demand is fucked worldwide for a year+, tankers will make bank, but no instead they get clapped? Are the bogs just out of touch boomers who are trading like it's 1975 and can't read an earnings estimate?

[Anonymous No.18888071]

>>18887990
Just wait for earnings tonight and follow the underlying momentum that results at open.

[Anonymous No.18888083]

>>18886950
You're wrong to think that Zoom is only down because of facebook. It's going down because people realize that a short-termed spike in users during quarantine doesn't make the company much more valuable in the long run. (That and the fact that it was greatly overvalued from the start).

Same thing for tankers. Yes, they managed to sell some of their tanker space for a great price during under exceptional circumstances but that doesn't mean that much for long-term enterprise value. Certainly not enough to justify an x5 or whatever you guys are dreaming about.

[Anonymous No.18888112]

>>18887990
The problem is that they’re overvalued because of the tanker meme being forced so hard. NAT was the worst offender. The others will feel a sting from the perceived recovery of the market. Unfortunately, I hope i’m wrong because i’m bagholding waiting for a pump.

[Anonymous No.18888126]

>>18888083
ZM CFO reported falsified user counts bro.
Tankers have historically reacted just as described for even smaller situation changes in the same direction as we're experiencing now.
You're completely delusional.

[Anonymous No.18888244]

>>18887970
jesus fuck, wtf is wrong with me, WTF IS WRONG WITH ME. I just sold all my other positions except for tankers, MRO, HAL, KOS, and DOW Inc. and bought 50 more shares of DHT, FRO, NAT. 350 shares of each tanker now, good god, help me, HELP ME. WHY DID I DO THIS IN THE FACE OF UNCERTAINTY, I AM LITERALLY ALL IN NOW.

[Anonymous No.18888327]

>>18888112
> Overvalued
Maybe, but also maybe not. Grandma isn't talking about tankers yet. CNBC picked up on tankers early and there was some movement into the sector, but grandmas aren't buying tanker stock yet. Given they're all small caps (mostly) the whole sector can easily fly, and the math says they should have already. Instead, people are shorting tankers before they make awesome earnings?
Honk for clown market I guess.
>>18888244
Hodl and walk away until you're in a better mindset. You still get dividends and FED is going to pump everything to the moon anyway.

[Anonymous No.18888413]

>>18888244
AAAAAAA
AAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

My mind just went "Oh hey, look, I am not that deep into margin anymore! I can afford more shares before getting back to where I was at!"

And so I bought 50 more of each. 400 DHT, 400 FRO, 400 NAT, dear god kill me if I don't make money off of this, I can be financially ruined with all my dreams of getting some sort of consistent income and investment startup from this crisis destroyed and be forever poor. This is my absolute max though at least, even my tanker-addicted self can't pull more money from anywhere else now as I won't allow myself to get dangerous with margin.

>>18888327
I suppose I should now. I am ruined if these dip down in a huge free fall now.

[Anonymous No.18888476]

>>18888327
Honk honk

[Anonymous No.18888539]

I'm already seeing Fang and HAL go red. WTF is wrong with the market today

[Anonymous No.18888548]

>>18888413
DONT BUY NAT

They are shit. Buy more STNG they are cheap now.

[Anonymous No.18888564]

>>18888126
I'm well aware that Zoom sucks for other reasons, too.

>Tankers have historically reacted just as described for even smaller situation changes in the same direction as we're experiencing now.

This was DHT during the last oil glut 2014-2016. Not sure if that's what you're all looking for.

[Anonymous No.18888580]

>>18888413
You only lose money if you sell. Even if you're down you'll still collect the dividend as you hold.

[Anonymous No.18888581]

Been holding PAA for a couple years, is now time to load up?

[Anonymous No.18888672]

What is the link to their earnings conference?

[Anonymous No.18888726]

>>18888672
https://www.dhtankers.com/dht-holdings-inc-to-announce-first-quarter-2020-results-tuesday-may-5-2020/

[Anonymous No.18888738]

>>18888672
Earnings call is tomorrow, but the data will be released after market close.

[Anonymous No.18889045]

>lets see how tankers are doing
Are you guys ever right?

[Anonymous No.18889084]

if this shit fucking crabs through earnings i'm going to lose my shit

[Anonymous No.18889087]

>>18888738
True, thought it was today

[Anonymous No.18889324]

stock's tanking but somebody's trying to buy my $14 6/19 calls

[Anonymous No.18889326]

>>18889045
Accumulate sma, ticker S92.DE
Anything under 30€ is ok, anything under 27€ is awesome
Thank me in a few years

[Anonymous No.18889357]

shitload of activity on the 6/19 $13 calls as well

[Anonymous No.18889376]

>>18888580
I know, but my god. I am down 10% today. Fuck me.

[Anonymous No.18889423]

>>18889084
>crabs
its just a nice steady decline

[Anonymous No.18889579]

>>18889376
Same - you have to laugh anon, or you'll cry. Diamond hands at last through May, see what the picture's like by June before doing anything.

[Anonymous No.18889606]

>>18889579
>wait for it to bottom out at 4 dollars
kek

[Anonymous No.18889671]

>>18889606
Why are you so trigged anon, it's quite endearing. I like you.

[Anonymous No.18889748]

>>18889671
How is he triggered?

[Anonymous No.18889769]

>>18889579
So wait until june for tankers selling?

[Anonymous No.18889794]

My may calls for FRO are looking bleak. I was deep in the money on my $10 calls too. Held on too long. August calls hopefully make up the loss.
Tanker stocks are some of the most manipulated stocks out there. Add that normie money coming in it was easy for the market to drive this down and have the losers panic sell. I probably should have saw this coming but oh well I will hold for dividend. These stocks will be back and will make a ton but if you bought may calls like me your toast.

[Anonymous No.18889795]

>>18889671
im not angry, tankerfags are a great source of entertainment, you guys cope harder than berniebros

[Anonymous No.18889800]

>>18889748
>24 posts telling people not to buy tanker stocks when he doesn't own any

[Anonymous No.18889865]

It's the moment tankercucks.
If DHT crushes earning and goes way up in afterhours, we are all gonna make it. All of the tankers should rise as well.
If it stays flat or disappoints, we are fucked.

[Anonymous No.18889877]

Am I reading the TNP divvy announcement correctly? 10x last year's?

[Anonymous No.18889896]

>>18889748
24 posts today with the same bland stuff - scroll up, he's on a crusade.
>>18889769
The reason we bought in was to capitalise on strong earnings - well all the earnings largely come out in May (as well as June oil contracts). Jumping now means you've not even tested that hypothesis, so what's the point? Up to you, i'd never judge someone getting spooped in these conditions.

[Anonymous No.18889909]

>>18889865
When are they going to drop the news?

[Anonymous No.18889919]

>>18889877
sauce me my nigga

[Anonymous No.18889975]

Earnings W H E N
H
E
N
COME ON I WANT MY MOONS

[Anonymous No.18889985]

>>18889919
My bad. It's for series D and E. No surprises.

[Anonymous No.18889994]

>>18889896
I assumed this was a long term investment. I just am still learning the industry (and investing in general). I'm not spooked by this, I assume up and downs. Sucked I "lost" 1k today, but what matters is the value when you sell is what I'm going by. I'm fine with waiting, I just wasn't sure what to look out for as a signal.

[Anonymous No.18890002]

Do. Or die. I am more than all in. I am petrified, I am ready, I am holding back confused tears that do not yet know to be happy or sad. I am down 9%, let's go.

[Anonymous No.18890031]

>>18889865
I don't understand anon. I own half the sector (DHT/FRO/STNG/EURN/TNK) and I'm gonna sell each one that doesn't offer either a sicker divy or sharebuybacks with the wads of cash they got. I will say one thing.

The rate of the a LR2 coated aframax has not dropped. vlcc rates have kind of shit the bed but LR2 rates remain crazy high. FRO/STNG/TNK cannot fail to make insane profits.

[Anonymous No.18890097]

Seriously though, where the fuck is earnings? When are they coming?

[Anonymous No.18890099]

i am so fucking angry right now

[Anonymous No.18890122]

>>18890097
N O W
O
W
https://www.dhtankers.com/dht-holdings-inc-first-quarter-2020-results/

[Anonymous No.18890127]

>>18890097
It's on their site now

[Anonymous No.18890198]

they almost doubled adjusted net revenue from Q1 2019 and Q2 2020 outlook is almost triple Q2 2019

[Anonymous No.18890218]

Revenue up, EBITDA up, divvy going up.

[Anonymous No.18890217]

>>18890122
In the first quarter of 2020 the Company’s VLCCs operating in the spot market achieved $66,400 per day and the
Company’s VLCCs on time-charter earned $54,000 per day achieving combined time charter equivalent earnings
for the Company’s VLCCs of $64,400 per day. The result for the Company’s VLCCs operating in the spot market
adjusted for the IFRS 15 impact was $65,500 per day for the first quarter of 2020.
• Thus far in the second quarter of 2020, 66% of the available VLCC spot days have been booked at an average
rate of $110,400 per day on a discharge to discharge basis (see table I for details).

For the first quarter of 2020, the Company will return $51.4 million to shareholders in the form of a cash
dividend of $0.35 per share, payable on May 26, 2020 to shareholders of record as of May 19, 2020.

Lastly, the virus outbreak has currently impacted global consumption of refined oil products imposing
a build-up of shore-based inventories of both feedstock and end products, resulting in bottlenecks and delays
to discharge cargoes in ports.

[Anonymous No.18890224]

>>18890097
$0.35 divvy

[Anonymous No.18890227]

>>18890099
music is soothing me though desu

[Anonymous No.18890238]

>>18890122
D U M P

[Anonymous No.18890247]

>>18889994
I think with the massive cash injections a lot of these tanker companies will be seeing of late you could be justified in thinking more medium term, but there's a lot of moving parts you need to keep abreast of and this is quite an unforgiving sector to be buying into relatively fresh. Don't look too far head at any one time.

[Anonymous No.18890275]

>>18890217
>Outlook Q2 2020 - Adjusted net revenue (million $ USD)
>RATE TCE/D
110,400
>110,400
110,400
>110,400
>1,122 DAYS

[Anonymous No.18890290]

>>18890218
They’re on ebt, fuuuuck

[Anonymous No.18890295]

>>18890218
Not that spectacular yet but the divvy is nice. Sadly I got it after the ex divvy date.

[Anonymous No.18890301]

What the unholy fuck, they crushed their earnings per share, crushed their revenue, crushed their outlook....

AND IT IS GETTING DUMPED, WHAT THE FUCK.

[Anonymous No.18890315]

>>18890301
>he didn't listen

[Anonymous No.18890317]

>>18890295
Of last quarter that is

[Anonymous No.18890322]

>>18890295
How? It's May 19...

[Anonymous No.18890324]

>>18890301
>priiiiiiiiiiiiiiiced iiinnnnnnnnnn

[Anonymous No.18890338]

>>18890301
It just gapped up on the 1m

[Anonymous No.18890359]

Good thing I only had calls on this.

NEVER LISTENING TO ANOTHER TANKER ANON AGAIN.

I hope we all learned something today.


Also fuck DHT anon what was he even thinking

[Anonymous No.18890368]

>missed expectations by 32%

[Anonymous No.18890382]

>>18890218
But EPS is last than last quarter. What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.18890392]

>>18890368
Expectation was 0.51, they have 0.58 unadjusted (0.49 adjusted). Where are you seeing 32% missed?

[Anonymous No.18890393]

wait a second
i'm fucking retarded
neg oil wasn't even in Q1
>we waiting nao

>>18890368
wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.18890432]

I think i remember this one from dht anon
Seems like he really got insinder info

[Anonymous No.18890442]

>>18890315
>>18890324
Nuh uh. I refuse.

>>18890368
lulwut. Source.

>>18890392
I don't get it. So it is a miss? Or a beat? What does unadjusted and adjusted matter? That is a huge difference.

[Anonymous No.18890445]

>>18890368
thats disney

[Anonymous No.18890454]

>EA good EPS good rev

stock is down 6% aftermarket

>DHT good earnings

stock is down 10%


What the fuck is going on, this is a completely fraudulent market.

[Anonymous No.18890481]

>DHT gaps up almost 2.5%
>next minute gaps down 5%
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.18890492]

>>18890454
Won't it improve tomorrow then?

[Anonymous No.18890497]

>everyone losses their job
>stonks go up
>company makes lodes of money
>stonks go down
Such is life

[Anonymous No.18890536]

>>18890492
It's going back up now in postmarket

[Anonymous No.18890538]

Everyone needs to not look at earnings for this. The conference call tomorrow at 8am is the key. Not earnings. Markets are forward thinking. The call is BEFORE the market indicating it will be good. That is what will drive markets. Last chance to buy at these levels. The market makers fucked everyone but the call will tell the public how much they are and will make. It will also tell you more about this dividend and upcoming ones. ill continue to hold FRO cause they like to fuck short sellers and the dividend will be massive. if you holding DONT sell. If you your gonna buy, buy how.

[Anonymous No.18890557]

DHT MISSES EXPECTATIONS BY 19%

[Anonymous No.18890564]

now WTF is this? i get an alert saying DHT missed earnings by 19% @ .44 per share and that isn't in this report AT ALL

[Anonymous No.18890568]

>>18890382
If you read the report the reasons for that are clear. They had more off hire days because of tree huggers and because chinks can't drive. None of this data includes the April spot contracts.

[Anonymous No.18890582]

>>18890564
>>18890557
Who's issuing this and for what purpose?

[Anonymous No.18890599]

>>18890582
got an alert from RH

[Anonymous No.18890601]

Tanker Bros, what happened? Lol

[Anonymous No.18890611]

>>18890582
"""Analysts""" who don't know shit apparently. Q4 2019 was DHT's best quarter ever and they still "missed".

[Anonymous No.18890612]

>>18890564
Alert from where? I don't see shit. I just see the report which is very very good.

>>18890538
Well, I got no choice but to hold. So hope it works out.

[Anonymous No.18890617]

>>18890564
It's because of a non-cash loss based on an interest rate hedge, they'll make it all up next quarter if interest rates stay down, which they're expected to.

[Anonymous No.18890622]

>>18890601
ask DHT anon
that faggot's MIA

[Anonymous No.18890629]

>>18888888
Testi

[Anonymous No.18890644]

>19%

L M A O

[Anonymous No.18890647]

>>18890568
Bullish, the chinks will pay

Got more rn

[Anonymous No.18890655]

>>18890238
>27 posts in one thread
Get a life man

[Anonymous No.18890666]

>>18890599
Found it, it's Bezinga. They say $0.54 estimate and $0.44 reported, and both of these are wrong. (((Who could be behind this))).

[Anonymous No.18890679]

>>18890599
RH....apparently they aren't trustworthy anymore I guess. Doubt they got it ahead of Ameritrade which hasn't posted yet. And regardless it contradicts DHT's site and actual claims.

[Anonymous No.18890686]

When are we testing those lows again? Do we have to wait for those earnings reports to come out for investors to understand the importance of consumer spending in the US economy? I missed the initial buying opportunity and I want my cheapies.

[Anonymous No.18890723]

>>18890666
I guess satan is behind it. .54 estimate is right though, right? But why on earth would they say .44 when the financial report directly says .58? Even adjusted it isn't anywhere close.

[Anonymous No.18890761]

>>18890723
MSM trying to do us dirty. I still have faith but it might be a longer play than expected. Futures contracts rolling over is going to be fun.

[Anonymous No.18890772]

>>18890723
Estimate is 0.51 according to my non-bezinga source.

[Anonymous No.18890779]

stage one: denial

[Anonymous No.18890803]

>>18890666
>>18890723
I looked into it further. Apparently Bazinga issued that at 3:36 p.m EST. Markets haven't even closed by then. What the actual fuck, what is this kikery? It is impossible to of had earnings by then.

>>18890761
Doing us dirty confirmed, it should be impossible to of had earnings report by the time it was written and it contradicts the financial report. This is unseen levels of bullshittery.

>>18890772
Ameritrade says .54 estimate. It hasn't given an actual earnings yet, but does have a link to Bazinga claiming the .44. Which was made at 3:36 PM EST. Hmmm....

>>18890779
This one isn't, this is actually some fuckery going on unless you can explain the discrepancies.

[Anonymous No.18890818]

>>18890803
stage 2: anger

[Anonymous No.18890822]

>>18890761
Longer play for sure, Kuppy made it seem like a 1-2 year play on the Market Huddle podcast a couple weeks back

[Anonymous No.18890842]

DEEEEE EEEEYYYYYDG TEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.18890861]

HUGE green candle on DHT just now

[Anonymous No.18890877]

>tfw DHT missed earnings by 87%

[Anonymous No.18890973]

How many suicides could be directly attributed to DHT anon? He must be on a cloud right now, laughing his ass off.

[Anonymous No.18890976]

>>18890877
yikes. is this true? I have to go tell /wsb/ right away

[Anonymous No.18890980]

>>18890247
Good to know. Is there any merit in researching the bulker market as well?

[Anonymous No.18891031]

>>18890976
He's lying, DHT missed earning by 93%. STNG missed by 102%.

[Anonymous No.18891127]

>>18881534
New thread boys, or wait till morrow?
Also, remember not to panic sell.

[Anonymous No.18891130]

So was that anon right about oil tankers missing? Ya'll just get BTFO?

[Anonymous No.18891146]

>>18891130
No? Did you even read the report?

[Anonymous No.18891150]

>>18891130
yes im pretty seething right now, i bought high and now him trying to determine whether i should just sell all or most and move on or wait it out indefinitely

[Anonymous No.18891154]

>>18890980
Maybe - i'm largely ignorant of that market, it's important to recognise there's a pretty big difference between the movement of oil (which is informed by not just economic but geopolitical factors) and the movement of other consumer goods by sea. If you like what you see and go full /maritimebro/, more power to you.

[Anonymous No.18891179]

>>18890973
I lost thousands today, like 25 percent

[Anonymous No.18891223]

>>18891150
>>18891130

new tactic I see, you salty critter

[Anonymous No.18891225]

>>18890217
https://ml-eu.globenewswire.com/Resource/Download/d98a1a31-08cf-4334-a5d1-47843763f1fe
>Thusfar in the secondquarter of 2020, 66%of the available VLCC spot days have been booked at an averagerate of $110,400perdayon a discharge to discharge basis

GHAHAHAALIKSDHFPOASIHDGFNPOASIDHPOIAHF I'M GOING TO BE FUCKING RICH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHADSPGFOIHASDGPO;AIEWNHJGTOREHNWG
I'M LOSING MY SHIT
$110K PER DAY
$110K PER DAY
THEY STILL HAVE ANOTHER 33% SPOT DAYS TO FILL
STNG AND TNK HAVEN'T EVEN HIT YET
THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE TO GO BALLS DEEP INTO THE BOTTOM
FUCKING HELL I FEEL LIKE A GOD

[Anonymous No.18891234]

>negative oil was in late April
>Late April is not in Q1

Have stronger hands, fuck you guys

[Anonymous No.18891253]

>>18891130
News says earnings were shit; actual earnings report has them beating estimates by $0.02. Fucking bogged is what it is.
>>18891127
Yeah if you want to get a new one up go for it, need to rage more.

[Anonymous No.18891256]

>>18891225
I sold all my FRO and I'm just riding DHT now.
Just waiting for people to wake up and this shit to go to Mars

[Anonymous No.18891282]

>>18891150
>29 posts by this ID
bruh

[Anonymous No.18891288]

>>18891154
I was just novicely think that bulkers will probably rise when the markets and production increases again. But I need to understand what actually drives stocks and shit more because apparently it's very random from my view that lacks insight.
>maritimebro
My family is mainly sailors so I may just do this for the wrong reasons.
>>18891256
Wouldn't fro rise too? There earnings are this month as well I thought.

[Anonymous No.18891310]

>>18891288
Yes and they pay a double digit dividend, but I panicked and I wanted to go in on something else so now my tanker position is just DHT

[Anonymous No.18891312]

>>18891150
>>18891282
bogjew doesn't understand how IDs work lol

[Anonymous No.18891341]

>>18891130
>>18891253
Earnings were within the estimated range, over a 200% improvement from the same quarter last year.

[Anonymous No.18891459]

>>18891288
As a total noob in stocks i can give you one good tip
Assume you dont understand shit until you really think you got one thing

[Anonymous No.18891533]

Somebody fucked up. It says 0.58 on their report.

[Anonymous No.18891608]

>>18891533
More like did it on purpose to scoop cheapies

[Anonymous No.18891648]

>>18891533
Bezinga is the source for .44. I think there is a reason more official stock market sources haven't reported DHT's earnings yet. Ameritrade hasn't committed to it, neither has nasdaq. The only place I heard of that has taken the Bezinga report, which was published prior to market closing, seriously is RH. I think RH made a booboo and retail investors have scurried away from the stock while smarter people reading the official report jumped in, which is why we crabbed.

Which I find absolutely hilarious because it is going to fuck over boomers and redditers good after they watch the stock gap up tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.18891657]

>>18891459
I guess I'm at that point

[Anonymous No.18891685]

New after hours thread. Wind down, grab a drink.
>>18891663
>>18891663
>>18891663
>>18891663

[Anonymous No.18891746]

>>18891288
There's a speculation frenzy going on at the moment dear anone, very disorientating even for those who have been around for a bit longer.

[Anonymous No.18891933]

>>18891746
That makes me feel a little better at least.

[Anonymous No.18892200]

I'm 8.5k in from this mornings lows. Let's go boys strong hands until June and we print.

[Anonymous No.18892291]

Hey bros, just wanted to let you know that even if I didn't believe or invest in tankers, I think it was very brave of you to take the risk. I'm not going to shitpost with "AHAHAHA YOU GUYS ARE NEVER RIGHT" or any other bullshit. Nobody is right 100% of the time, and you only make it by falling a few times before finding your moon mission.

Here's to hoping you guys still make it through soon. I won't be sad for missing out if this orbits, but I also won't belittle anyone for a sense of self-gratification if this burns to the ground.

Take it easy, Anons. May we all someday make it, somehow.