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>> No.18874723
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first for fuck crabs

>> No.18874730

Here it is, the CUNNY stock group:
C - Citigroup Inc
UN - Unilever NV
N - Namaste Technologies
Y - Alleghany Corporation

But since Namaste looks like a shit penny stock, there's this alternative:
C - Citigroup Inc
UN - Unilever NV
NYA - NYSE Composite
CU - Canadian Utilities Limited Class A
TE - TE Connectivity Ltd

>> No.18874746

4000 this summer

>> No.18874760

Are these good efts?
>qqq
>gld
>vea
>voo
>spy
Which 5 should I look into?

>> No.18874774
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Natural gas bros check in. You ready for our time as those oil cucks seethe.

>> No.18874819
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I am the Captain Now

>> No.18874825

Butt
Uterus
Licking
Lovers

Nasty bastards. I cant wait until you get slaughtered by bear gang

>> No.18874829

>>18874774
>people are riding the widow maker in /smg/

We’ve reached peak boomer

>> No.18874842

I know the instant I am bullish, thats when it all comes down.

>> No.18874843

Remember to buy MVIS tomorrow morning and sell at close or Wednesday. Worth a day trade strike

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>>18874774
ENBL
PE
SM

All I have right now in Natural gas.
Keep telling poverty to buy in now but poverty won’t listen to reason.
Hence they lose money like losers they are.

>> No.18874849
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calls on Dis

you heard it here first.

>> No.18874857

>>18874760
If youre gonna ETF just pick any s&p500 one and call it good, its not rocket science.

>> No.18874876
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>>18874849
WERD

>> No.18874877

>>18874730
TE makes good stuff, I can vouch for them

>> No.18874888

I fucking hate stocks, but man do I love anime tits!

>> No.18874905

>>18874849
>>18874876
Literally who the fuck wants to go to a park packed with sick children during a pandemic?

>> No.18874910

>>18874888
>I fucking hate stocks
Bro....

>> No.18874919

>>18874905
small brain

>> No.18874933

>>18874876
>everything Disney touches turns to trash
>but they have so MUCH stuff

>> No.18874935

>>18874919
Oh, and how can they afford a fancy theme park when they dont even have a job? Lmao
>inb4 pent up demand
>inb4 jobs just come back

>> No.18874940
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Green futures. Does this mean the day ends red?

>> No.18874943
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>>18874723

>> No.18874962

With how bizarro this market is I can see Disney having a terrible earnings but spike up on huge Disney+ subscription numbers.

>> No.18874973

>>18874905
Children don't even catch the virus

>> No.18874977

>>18874669
Since futures are again +1%...this whole depression is cancelled with just printing more money and raising more debt, that easily? Why would anyone ever be scared of recessions, depressions or corrections again when Central banks can just print you out of it? Why would anyone ever in life short anything? This is the end of free market.

t. Longing everything.

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>>18874973
Actually yes the little shits do,
Some have CoronaVirus toes.
Nasty shit.

>> No.18875040

Lost money because of the old guy warren buffet. He has sway over the market so i intended to dump my stocks. Airliner ends up plummeting. Sell. Goes back to normal by end of day. Reeeeeee Im pist. I sold because of the effect he can have on the market. Worst part is I convinced someone else to sell their stocks for a sizeable loss that couldve been close to a 0 loss had I kept my mouth shut! Back to not listening to the media or buffet for stock advice as its only screwed me over for the most part.

>> No.18875045

What about drive in theaters bro’s? Can they make a come back?

>> No.18875047

>>18874973
They are super spreaders. They catch it but are not affected, then they bring it home to their boomer parents and they die.

>> No.18875056

>>18874977
You have to remember the market is inherently adversarial, and for every position you make a gain on, someone else had to lose for.

>> No.18875057
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>>18874905
are you old or overweight with underlying health problems?

which one is it that is causing you to be so fearful?

Children don't give a fuck about a virus and the instant they find out they can go meet mickey their parents will be packing their bags and going. Its fucking magical, not even the Chinese virus can stop that.

Imagine being afraid to leave your house because of something that effects 0.005% of your countries/state/city population. 99% of people who get it, get over it! please stay inside forever, nobody will miss you.

>> No.18875063

>>18874962
>it doesn't make make any money but Disney+ has subscribers!
>dude, Netflix
>POOMP IT
Yea I can see it

>> No.18875069
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does this look like a good time to buy XLY?

>> No.18875072

>>18875040
buffet's decisions don't seem to be correct to retail plebs right away. we'll see what happens in a few months

>> No.18875073
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>>18874977
REEEEEE i want a crash it's not fair
fuck the fed

>> No.18875083

>>18874940
Rolling

3 > 0 > 6 > 1 > 4

>> No.18875089

>>18875057
>Kids just go to Disney World alone
Ok pedo.

>> No.18875093

$FRO get in this week or miss out, should be under 9 for another few days

>bottom of a fish hook looks to be forming throughout this week, likely bottom is tomorrow or Wednesday
>HUGE earnings coming up (News Catalyst), as the oil glut has made tanker companies do extremely well
>sky is the limit, this bitch almost hit $400 during the '08 recession

Only thing I don't see is the increase in volume but I suspect that's coming this week I know I'll be grabbing more

>> No.18875099
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I think the drive through girl at McDonald's is into me bros... She was smiling and acting all nice when she handed me my order of bacon McDoubles.
Well, I assume she was smiling, she had a mask on .
People are being nicer and more outgoing me today and I'm not sure exactly why. But if I had to guess, I think that my continence plays a large part in it.
That's right bros, you told me it couldn't be done, but I have undertaken the greatest challenge of the decade: I'm not giving in to my passions or whims in the month of May. That means no sex, no masturbation, and no buying of low-quality stocks
So far I'm doing really well, I haven't touched myself lustfully in over 48 hours and I haven't bought any low quality stocks in at least 12 hours.
We're all going to make it, bros.

>> No.18875100

>>18874977
brainlet. futures were red sunday night and market still closed up green last hour today. complete opposite can happen tomorrow. futures are meaningless with such high volatility.

>> No.18875120

>>18875047
>children with their weak and immature immune system catch deadly virus
>catch it but are not effected

You know what you call an asymptomatic person? Healthy.

Anon, are you saying children have better immune systems than adults?

>> No.18875124

>>18875073
Me too. Buffet trucked me. He knows he has an effect on the market. Now the stock i sold for a loss is back up above my avg.

However if this market can stay like this for just a few more months I may be able to get away with a position that has no risk with good rewards.

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>>18874935
>Disney is strictly theme parks

>> No.18875128

>>18875099
>she just got a text from chad about fucking her tonight and she was smiling this means she likes me
lololol

>> No.18875134

>>18875093
FRO had a 5:1 split in February 2016. It's peak price when properly accounting for that was ~$70 in June 2008.

>> No.18875140
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>>18874774
>not investing in pipelines that transport both

>> No.18875145

>>18874935
>service and retail are important members of society
nah and most of them are making more on unemployment than they were in their jobs, they'll still throw their money away like they used to

>> No.18875149

>>18875120
Oh shit, I didn't know you were actually retarded. Sorry, mate.

>> No.18875155

>>18875093
>>sky is the limit, this bitch almost hit $400 during the '08 recession
They're called stock splits, retard. Go someplace more your speed.

>> No.18875163

>>18874935
Not everyone is poor like you.

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>> No.18875167

>>18875047
never thought I would say this but based kids

>> No.18875185

>>18875163
>Poor
Naw I'm good. Im in healthcare software.

>> No.18875219

>>18875185
>"in" healthcare software
pffttthahahaha [x] doubt
you type like a nigger

you have 30 seconds to select all from the table named "niggers", i know you're slapping that refresh button

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>>18875219

>> No.18875238
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>>18875047
a lot of studies/reports actually show that you're wrong:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.049254v1
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2020/03/30/2020.03.26.20044826.full.pdf

lots of data/experts suggest that children spread the virus far less than adults. Lots of arguments that kids are apparently not big spreaders at all and are often infected by adults.

Also when they are infected it's usually extremely mild. Check the CDC charts on deaths by age - around ~100 deaths total for *EVERYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 24*. Keep in mind this is for the entire country, 3 months worth of data. ~100 deaths. From COVID-19. For people under 24, COVID-19 is a literal nothing burger.

In conclusion, you're a huge fucking retard and spreading false information.

>> No.18875243

>>18875185
times up dumbass. fucking retard kys

>> No.18875254

Ctrl+F MVIS......ngmi.

>> No.18875265

>>18875128
She was a chubby Mexican looking girl
Bro her eyes lit up before she even handed me the bags of McDoubles, and she gave me a special "have a good night" after. I know how to see lust in a woman's eyes, even with the mask on. And that's what I saw tonight

>> No.18875277

>>18875238
>god himself smiting boomers
Does anything not hate boomers?

>> No.18875279
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>he bought the top

>> No.18875280

>>18875047
Kids say the darndest things.

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>>18875279

>> No.18875301

>>18874940
What if we're already cursed (or blessed) with 5?

>> No.18875308

>>18875056
nice one brainlet. Too bad you didn't consider when stock prices keep rising and people are selling? Fucking pseud shut ur mouth

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>>18875279
>knife
>not catching the katana

>> No.18875391

>>18874940
8 > 1 > 5 > 3 > 0 > 7 > the rest
8 is the ultimate power of persuasion, you just have to get used to using reverse psychology literally every waking moment.

>> No.18875415

>>18875047
>"Children are significantly less likely than adults to develop severe disease, and reported pediatric deaths are rare."
>"The age associations highlighted particularly low expression in samples from very young children (newborn to 3 years old)... reports suggest that most infants and young children cases do not display severe disease..."
>"Overall, these patterns may be important in understanding why children are more resistant to COVID-19 and and in considering risk during pregnancy."
Source: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.19.049254v2.full.pdf

>"Our investigation found no evidence of children infecting teachers."
>"SARS-CoV-2 transmission in children in schools appears considerably less than seen for other respiratory viruses, such as influenza."
Source: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6877277-NCIRS-NSW-Schools.html#document/p1

I could go on. Hopefully you realize how stupid you are though.

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I fixed the earnings report.

>> No.18875464

>tfw panic sold half my portfolio today because the 90 year old diapershitter gave me nightmares about a bloody monday
oh well. didn't need so much BA, LUV and DAL anyways. didn't even get them very cheap. being only 50% cash right now was giving me anxiety. 75% cash is much comfier, plus im more confident in my current investments.

>> No.18875477

BUY MVIS OR KILL YOURSELF

>> No.18875496

>>18875140
What companies do that? I have OKE do you have any recommendations?

>> No.18875508

ok, I get it, stonks go up, I'm gonna buy calls

>> No.18875545

>>18874843
Won't it drop premarket today? The stock was almost removed from the NASDAQ last year, wasn't it? What's so special?

>> No.18875553

>>18875464
You will thank him soon.

>> No.18875557
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how will orange man play out this delicate situation with china? he needs to retaliate for the virus so he doesn't seem weak but if he slaps tariffs or gets belligerent the market will dive

>> No.18875564

>>18875464
>>tfw panic sold half my portfolio today because the 90 year old diapershitter gave me nightmares about a bloody monday
This. No actual nightmares tho. Sold out of 4 different positions because I was convinced this boomer was gonna crash the market, not just airlines. Ended up convincing someone else as well and feel bad about it. No more taking his opinion regarding if I should sell stocks. Got out of UAL, RTX (about the only good play), NWL, GE, and a few more.

Ended up loading up more on a meme stock lol.

>> No.18875582

>>18875545
it's the next pajeet PND. people are spreading rumors about a microsoft buy out.

>> No.18875586

>>18875564
>No more taking his opinion regarding if I should sell stocks.
I meant the old geezer here.

>> No.18875598

>>18875557
He wants 6 trillion stimulus and negative interest rates and public works projects. He will do anything for "economy." But he also hates China, so he will bust the balls of any company that doesn't fall in line. They were in his sights before this and now he basically has carte blanche to fulfill this mandate.

>> No.18875642

>>18875598
Surely he is that coordinated and focused. All part of the master plan...hmmmm
>negative interest rates
I see that announced I switch entirely to gold that same day.

>> No.18875645

>>18874940
1 plz

>> No.18875649

>>18875557
looks to me like he's going to retaliate by driving manufacturing out of China and back to the US, which would provide a benefit on two ends: Hurt China, and bring jobs to America.

>> No.18875665

>>18875649
He might be trying but it seems those jobs leaving china are heading to southeast asia like vietnam and india. I doubt we will see jobs come back to the US even if forced out of China.

>> No.18875666

>>18875477
pack it up boys, reddit got wind

>> No.18875671

Anyone has a link of that website that showed subnormal options activity?

>> No.18875679

>>18875649
>nearly 4 years into his presidency
>this time FOR REAL
Is this ironic posting?

>> No.18875689

>>18875391
4 is the biz one, ez example:
>Go to Vegas
>guess the number on the roulette
>50% chance to win 35 to 1 if you win

>> No.18875702

>>18875564
im holding RTX until they get some good contracts. /biz/ memed me into it.

>>18875557
i think the best route is defense spending. arm taiwan, japan, south korea, maybe even vietnam. give em all good deals on f-35s. go long on LMT. it's starting to look like a new cold war.

>> No.18875735

>>18875679
>if I pretend hes not doing it, then hes not doing it!
Four more years coming, faggot.

>> No.18875743

Should I go all in on RTX right now?

>> No.18875744

>>18875702
>im holding RTX until they get some good contracts. /biz/ memed me into it.

I suggest you sell before the inevitable earnings dump and buy back in if you're that committed to the company

>> No.18875766

>>18875735
Nope, not your sparring partner /pol/.
I mean all the tariffs over the years did was move supply chains through other countries in SEA. And rain hellfire on US s(_)ybean agriculture.

>> No.18875773

>>18875743
Ooo, 58$ might be good long term buy.
Interesting it dropped so low.
Is there some news I am missing?

>> No.18875783

Level with me biz where will the s&p be on May 31st? I can see a case for 3200 just as easy as 1500. I know a crab walk is more likely but I feel like some crazy volatility is coming sooner or later. What a time to be alive.

>> No.18875787

as someone that started at $100 with oil, then went to $200 from that, and is now that $400 from mvis, is it a good idea to hold that til thursday? I've done a 4x this month and my only regret is not putting in more money. im just gonna keep trading like a retard on shills and hope it keeps doubling to 20k

>> No.18875790

>>18875744
probably a smart move but i only got like 13 shares. i could just average down, i love losing money anyways it's part of the fun.

>> No.18875803

>>18875773
Idk doesn't seem like that steep of a dip though so it's probably just correcting. I'll take your advice and buy a few shares for now and maybe more if it dips lower.

>> No.18875813

I like Naruto Shippuden bros

>> No.18875817

Thanks buffet, I bought dal near 20$ mark yesterday

>> No.18875852

>>18875099
I stopped going to my nearest mcdonalds because a fast food worker was nice to me
This tall white girl named Sam started smiling at me and laughing whenever she recognized my voice on the intercom, and gave me free food all the time. One time I asked her why, she said it was because I was nice. I was polite, but I am pretty sure I didnt say anything overly nice. What is there to say at a fast food drive thru, right? And she was white, I was asian. I felt strange getting hit on by a white girl. She was gorgeous and didnt belong at a mcdonalds doing drive thru work, so I had no idea how to approach this situation. So I simply ignored it, like the spineless cuck nobody raised me into. Sometimes Id go back inevitably, and she would be there. I never forgot when we first met, she handed me my order and her eyes got super wide while staring at me, like she was looking at the most beautiful guy in the world, but again how could that be me? Well, it's over now.

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>>18875803
Good hunting anon-kun,

>> No.18875857

>>18875702

RTX will be fine. The UTX merger was kind of unfortunate in that it brings exposure to commercial aerospace but all in all RTX is doing well.

LMT actually has more problems than RTX; if anything you should go with Northrop

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>>18874829
Not really, people are just being stupid. Probably the same people who were buying airlines and cruises and Dave and busters and shit. Some of us did a UNG trade a while back that went okay, profitable but stressful.

Energy right now is volatile as fuck. I’m not even going to bother warning these folks:

>>18875374

Hell, or these folks:
>>18875472

>> No.18875860

Biz whats your take on pipeline plays for both natural gas and oil?

>> No.18875865

>>18875744

Their earnings won't be bad though. RTX is just going to follow the general market for the time being.

To dump back to 50 we probably have to hit SPY 260

>> No.18875873

>>18875860
Feels inferior to tankers DESU. Pipelines are doing this kind of out of desperation to get any revenue. Tanker holding CEOs are pieces of shit that live for rare times like this.
Once the oil starts being burned off, dump those tards again and go back into pipelines if you want.

>> No.18875875

>>18874669
>Dow futures rise 200 points as investors focus on reopening of economy

CNBC Headline - not even MSM know how to rationalize this shitshow right now. haha

>> No.18875881

>>18874669
GILEAD

>> No.18875889

>>18875857
>LMT actually has more problems than RTX
I find that highly doubtful. Are you the guy who works for Ng? You sneaky snake you!

>>18875865
I expect them to shit the bed completely. They need to demonstrate to Wall Street that the merger is going successfully and that the sum of the parts is greater than the two individual companies.

But now they have business that corona just fucked them out of and Boeing just fucked them out of.

I don’t know how much of UTX’s total revenue came from commercial airliners, but I would make sure to find that shit out if I were investing in them.

>> No.18875902

London opens in 52 minutes right?

>> No.18875916

I'd wait for a dip before hopping back onto tankers, especially with crude climbing. We have a lot of time until this month rolls over and that is when I expect crude to dip again and tankers to pump in response.

I have limit buys for STNG

EURN at 10.5 & 10

I'd also like to pick up a bundle of natural gas tanker preferred shares TGP.PB at $20 (yield is like 15% at that face value). Dont think it goes that low again unless we tank though

>> No.18875924

>>18875875
It’s literally an algorithm brainlet.

>>18875028
>zoomer footfags BTFO of sexy teen toe porn
Based

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GUYS IM SAD

I sold my Snoy boy stocks at a loss because I heard about TLOU and how it was supposed to be a launch title for their new shitbox... then it shot up 1+% after hours.

>> No.18875944

>>18875889

Most of UTX airline exposure is in the private jet industry though, not really commercial airliners.

RTX makes most of its money on government software contracts.

Sure this being debacle isn't good for then but they are far from being one of the most negatively affected parties in all this.

>> No.18875955

>>18875943
The only place worse to get advice from than /biz/ is /v/. Most of the money is in the hands of boomers and they don't care if game X is trash, only about how much money game X makes.

>> No.18875959

>>18875944
I believe GD was the one who did private jets. I don’t think that will really be the solution that comes out of this, but it could see an increase in demand.

Are you trying to say LMT has commercial airliner exposure? I think it’s more Boeing and I guess Honeywell and probably GE.

>> No.18875961

>>18874940
r

>> No.18875973

>>18875955
Kek good point. An indicator I used for Nintendo was how angry /v/ and /vp/ got over smash bros characters and pokemon having not enough Pokemon.

You just know they’re still going to buy it all and so will all the parents with kids they need to entertain.

Oh shit they report this week too I think!!

>> No.18875975

>>18875924
Doesnt change that there's people who take it seriously. Doesnt change the possibility its manipulated into showing us what the big firms want us to see.

>> No.18875989

>>18875924
What's your point brainlet? Futures are a huge indicator and in the majority of the times right.

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>>18874940
1 please.
But it would be best if I had 0.

>> No.18875998

>>18875989
Right about what?

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>>18875875
>not even MSM know how to rationalize this shitshow right now
biz media headlines are always like that if there's no specific news to pin the market moves on. Stonks up on blah blah stonks down on blah blah concerns.

>> No.18876035

>>18875852
You sound like an attractive young man, she was probably amazed by your looks and your personality

>> No.18876050

>>18875099
>continence
McDubs confirms. Ask her out tomorrow and tell us how it went

>> No.18876058

>>18876022
If the past 2-3 months & 2016 haven’t pointed out incompetence of MSM nothing will make normies understand.

>> No.18876074

>>18875265
By the end of the May you'll be fucking the sofa cushions. Any hambeast will start looking good. Better cut your losses

>> No.18876079

>>18875991
Well well well...
Looks like life just got a lot more interesting!

>> No.18876084
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>>18876058
biz media is stupid in its own special way.

>> No.18876095
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18876095

We did it Polo Bros. We saved the airlines.

>> No.18876096

>>18875127

Go have a look at where their revenues actually come from. I'll wait.

>> No.18876109

>>18876095
buffet sold the bottom

>> No.18876115

>>18876109
Buffett sold a month ago

>> No.18876117
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18876117

>>18876095
BY THE POWER OF OPTIMISM

>> No.18876129

>>18876115
yes, on 3-4th april something, that was the bottom

>> No.18876153
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18876153

Over the past few weeks I went from being up 28k YTD to being up barely 3k. Thanks, Jerome!

>> No.18876170

Now that the virus and lockdown is over. What to invest?

>> No.18876173

26 Zoom insiders sold stock worth $175 million. lol

>> No.18876176

>>18876170
Gold

>> No.18876190

>>18876153
Trump was briefed Jan. 23

Powell's job is to come in after the fact and clean up

>> No.18876193
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18876193

>JNJ
>AMD
>NVDA
>NIO
>YELP
yeah, i'm balls deep in JANNY

>> No.18876194

>>18876170
Cunny.

Also
>over

if you’re not 90% cash you’re a dummy

>> No.18876195

>>18876176

Isnt gold price going down? Now that theres no need and economy is running normal.

>> No.18876198
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18876198

>>18875889
That is bullshit thinking that Raytheon is going to die on earnings.

If you really think that then put your money where your mouth is and load up on puts.

>> No.18876205

Confirmed. McDonald’s is training workers to hit on customers and flirting needs to be noticeable, to get hired during the interview.

>> No.18876211

>>18875040
airlines are all going bankrupt, no one is flying internationally for like 1-2 years at least

>> No.18876215

Lads I feel like now is a bad time to go long on almost anything, but I wanna go long on defense. Thoughts?

>> No.18876219

Everyones starting to get cocky bros.

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>>18876153

>> No.18876224

>>18876195
>Isnt gold price going down?
Nope
>Now that theres no need and economy is running normal.
3/10
Really though >>18876194 has it

>> No.18876245

>>18876215
uhhh....go long on defense? Invest in what you know or feel comfortable with. Will you get much in the way of gains? Ehhh. But you can almost think of them like short term bond holds.
>3 month bond yield is 0.13%
Ok, better bonds

>> No.18876246

>>18876194
75% cash master race. it's like you hate having fun. money is fucking worthless anyways, i have been saving so much money in quarantine because all my eateries and coffee shops are closed, plus i quit smoking.

>> No.18876249

>>18876211
didn't they say that when SARS 1 happened and 9/11 too? People are stupid like chickens they only think in the moment not in the future or the past. People are going to want to travel even if they "dont think so on those questionnaires"

>> No.18876264

>>18875040
3 trillion in fedbux announcement brought the whole market up. Don’t be so hard on yourself.

>> No.18876266

>>18876245
The question is rather to stay in the market at all. I'm of the opinion we are heading towards a down turn and I'm basically just asking myself if the defense sector will be among the winners.

>> No.18876270

Am I the only person that thinks Powell has done a good job so far reacting to the hand he was dealt by the Chinese virus?

>> No.18876283

>>18876249
>didn't they say that when SARS 1 happened and 9/11 too?
It took 4 years for airlines to recover from 9/11 and that was because of 3000 people dying in a terrorist attack. Which I guess that number is retroactively a "nothing burger" now.

>> No.18876284

>>18875787
dont you will lose.

>> No.18876287

>>18876270
I agree. He's fighting a potential deflationary spiral. It's not his fault the stock market is irrational - he can't control their hopium.
There are anons who legitimately think Powell should've done nothing. That's how the Great Depression happened.

>> No.18876294

>>18876022
>>18875875
Dont even read those headlines, its all cope and manipulation
Search for numbers, rest is just bullshit

>> No.18876304

>>18876287
TRAP made the 2008 crash worse and longer. This will be the same thing. The QE has to keep getting stronger every time.
>oh no stocks are crashing
Who cares? All QE does is concentrate even more money into equities holders at the expense of every other asset class.

>> No.18876306

>>18875545
Haha like Ag Eagle Drones or whatever the fuck being bought by Amazon. I made a quick $50 and left right away that last day, but people were trying to pump it for a good month. Lots of four and five dollar baggies now

>> No.18876314

>>18876198
Have you even bothered to research utx’s commercial airliner revenue?
You might be the worst of the shills, your thesis is straight hopium.

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>>18876294
It's true. They're unavoidable in my news feed though. I would like to have a news feed that only gives news releases directly from companies but I don't think that's something I can do.

>> No.18876321

Should I be concerned if a company is offering 1.5 billion in senior notes? Is that going to dilute share price?

>> No.18876322
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18876322

where is the logic in investing in tankers?
you know that an oil tanker is not an oil bank, but an oil taxi.

oil gets pumped out of ground>moved to storage on land>either pumped through pipelines to get to processing or sent to tankers to be then be moved to processing.

tankers have no reason to increase in value and are a shit investment. you know how long it takes to build an oil tanker? years.

>> No.18876327

>>18876266
>if the defense sector will be among the winners
i think so but im a retard who's also long on oil and lithium. honestly though it looks like we might be entering a cold war. we're already in a chinese proxy war via venezuela, and china is exploiting the shanghai shivers to flex in the south sea. these are developments that have already happened in the past couple months.

china already has taiwan and HK on the menu, and they're trying to speed it up while the rest of the world deals with the wuhan flu. it doesn't matter who's president when george soros wants to put xi in his place either.

>> No.18876330

>>18876287
Another Great Depression would unironically be a good thing. The world economy needs a reset.

>> No.18876335

>>18876287
Right, I’ve seen a lot of talk from those anons lately, didn’t think they understood most of the reasoning behind some of the feds actions.

>> No.18876336

>>18876322
He he moves the spice controls the spice

>> No.18876341

>>18876314
Do you have any figures or sources for your data/claims. I am not doubting the possibility but I would like to see some documentation since I tried looking on the sec but couldn't find any forms since the merger.

>> No.18876342

>>18876304
it's not about stocks even, it's about deflation. there are moments when QE serves a purpose - to break us out of potential spirals, like the one we're entering. the Great Depression was utterly pointless and could've been averted with sound policy.
the stock market will still crash. the fed won't - and can't - stop it. that's not what im worried about

>> No.18876344

>>18876050
Bro I can't go to McDonald's two times in the same week, what kind of person do you take me for?

>>18876219
This is TRUE I was saying this today
Cockiness everywhere I look, except for the real niggas like buffett who are just chilling saying "no one knows what's going on lol"

>> No.18876355

>>18876330
Only after I sell. Keep going up for now.

>> No.18876359

>>18876342
>that's not what im worried about

Then what are you worried about anon?

>> No.18876365

>>18876322
They are mobile storage that refineries and wells hire to store their oil for the day when it's worth it to process it. And they can sail to your port.
Think of them as oil landlords. They contribute nothing to society but make a lot of money as middlemen. They are also unbelievable scum.
>>18876321
It shouldn't. Normally shares might go slightly up since it'll make current shareholders feel more secure that their shares won't be diluted. But that depends on why the bonds had to be issued.

>> No.18876370

>>18876355
>he hasn't sold yet

>> No.18876374

>>18876249
how are you going to travel internationally if other nations, not USA have shut their boarders? you cant fly to new zealand for example. boarder is closed until further notice.
other nations dont want americans spreading their bat aids after they get control of the disease within their own country.
american airlines are DEAD. do not invest.

>> No.18876379

>>18876322
>moved to storage on land
That's the critical part of the thesis. Tankers mooned because storage is full and tankers are, or were very recently, being used as improvised temporary storage. This is likely still the case but I'm not completely sure what the situation is right now.

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>>18874669
Making those Shell tendies boyssssss

>> No.18876383

>>18876370
Bought some nice dip in March, going well

>> No.18876384

>>18876219
Please dont dump it, Mr. Bog.
>>18876270
I have no idea what meassures were based on the Fed and what based on the gouvernment.
All I see today is a treasury-bank, who might as well be one and the same after 2008.
>>18876336
When pumps and stocks travel in the same chart, the bulls believe nothing can stand in their way. Their investments moon headlong - higher and higher and higher. They put aside all thoughts of selling and forget the dump does not show itself to the man in a blind pump until it's too late.

>> No.18876386

>>18876342
Deflation would not be an existential threat if the debt wasn't stupid high to begin with. It should be eye opening to everyone how even MAJOR companies completely got consumed by unstoppable debt when they were on pause for 1 month. I have very little faith that the Fed will "turn off the hose" at the right time to prevent inflation. The indicators lag too much and new problems can arise in the meantime.
It's just the old acquire debt -> inflate it away paradigm from Nixon just now embedded into the very soul of the Fed.

>> No.18876387

>>18876344
do it bro. i love the chubby young mexican girls who work in fast food. they're all just looking for successful trading chads to get them pregnant.

god i want to breed a chubby mexican girl so bad bros.

>> No.18876392

>>18876316
That would be so fucking based

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18876394

>>18876380
> Shell tendies boyssssss

You fool.

>Shell's board of directors is stuffed with Green energy cultists
>explicitly made clear that this isn't a temporary dividend cut in the conference call.
>Hasn't raised dividend since 2014
>Tried to reduce dividend through share buybacks which bit them in the ass with oil price collapsed and shanghai shivers happened.
>Shutting down oil and gas projects for north sea windmills
>IS DUTCH.

>> No.18876396

>>18876336
no. he who pumps it and refines it controls it. PUMP EEEET

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18876398

>>18876344
>Cockiness everywhere I look
Pointing that out made me actually a bit more bullish because when we dump its gonna be based on uncertainty. If everyone is cocky they will just buy the "dip"... until the dip keeps dipping more than they can buy.

>> No.18876415

>>18876335
60% of the things that /smg/ posters say about the fed are strictly, factually incorrect. Another 25% are "soft wrong", things that are sort of opinions, not falsifiable, but certainly not correct.

All of this, despite the fact that the fed is crystal clear about sharing their outlooks.
Any time someone in these threads criticizes the fed, they're just paraphrasing something that they read on ZH or Twitter, never talking about what the fed is actually saying. You'll never see someone say "Jerome said this in October but did something else in December". And that's because these kids out here aren't reading or listening to what Powell is saying, they're reading memes or the first paragraph of articles about it...
Fuck em

>> No.18876417

>>18874940
rollan

>> No.18876429

>>18876365
no they are oil taxi's, working for change and tips. they exist to transport oil to refineries from areas that have no refining capabilities.

there is currently an oil mega surplus, the refineries cant process what the have, and the guys who are pumping it out the ground arent stopping, n on is consuming it. if anything would profit from this it would be the refineries and processing plants. because they are transforming Cheap Oil into Expensive Gasoline for example.

>> No.18876431

>>18876387
I have a non chubby Mexican girl at my work
But I can't get down with any of the real Indian looking ones. You know, the dark skinned small ones who are like 100% native blood. I mean she's kind of cute but that's just not my flavor

>> No.18876436

>>18876394
>3rd highest revenue company in the world, above every single oil supermajor
>Diversification into gas and electricity
>Expansion into electric car charging stations
>Oil platforms from Antarctica to Russia
Do you think other companies can afford to keep their divvy, while Shell cuts it? Obviously they are setting up for growth.

>> No.18876444

>>18876386
i think the bigger concern that leads to deflation is lack of demand. huge unemployment, everyone's broke, landlords aren't getting paid, mortages on hold, everyone staying home. everyone has to be more frugal because they're broke, and everything is fucking closed so nobody can spend any money anyways. and all this sanctimonious #STAYHOMESAVELIVES slacktivism is going to last long after the economies open up. so will the unemployment.

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>>18876415
>60% of the things that /smg/ posters say about the fed are strictly, factually incorrect. Another 25% are "soft wrong", things that are sort of opinions, not falsifiable, but certainly not correct.
95% have no clue about the Fed and 5% have a little bit of information.
What goes on in the Fed, US treasury and the high echelons of the banks is more secret than what goes on in the pentagon, so all we can do is throw chicken bones and call Powell a fag or hero.
Even if we understood shit the algos would know it five days before we do.

Or its just me who is retarded and you all actually know whats going on. Then good for you.

>> No.18876452

>>18876398
It's bullish cockiness and bearish cockiness at the same time, in significant measure
Even the crabs are getting cocky
Everyone is sure that the market is going to go up or down or sideways based on whatever signals they're looking at
I remember the same sentiment happened in 2019 sometime, I just don't rember when. I can feel it though

>> No.18876454

>>18876444
there is no lack of demand, people are willing to go out right fucking now if they could

checked tho

>> No.18876459

>>18876341
>Do you have any figures or sources for your data/claims.
What data/claims?
Just look at UTX’s last quarter or yearly earnings report, it should tell you all you need to know about their revenue streams.

>> No.18876463

>>18876452
but 2019 was a completely bullish year

>> No.18876464

>>18876446
The fed is very clear
Read or listen to their announcements for the past year, and then watch what they've done.
It's all completely coherent, sensible, and correct.

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18876467

who /ridin with Biden/ here?

>> No.18876474

>>18876359
if overvalued stocks tumble a bit in value, so be it. im worried about a Great Depression level of catastrophe - a lot decade of sparsity and unemployment
>>18876386
for the Great Depression and the Long Depression, deflation was a killer, even without modern levels of debt

>> No.18876478

>>18876463
Bro... Were you here in 2019?
May 2019 especially was nuts, the tariffs on both sides kept going up and Beijing and DC were more and more antagonistic, no one knew if it was going to end. There were other little speed bumps that we hit as well

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I finally managed to buy a dip and not the top.

>> No.18876489

>>18876454
we can't really tell in the west yet, but pumping the breaks on your economy is going to have lasting pain. in china the government was giving people little coupon vouchers to encourage people to go out because they were struggling to restart their economy. now that may have also been because even the citizens knew the CCP lied about having contained the virus, but there is no hope of containment in the west anymore.

>> No.18876492

>>18876474
If we do hit a great depression what happens? Do we under go another global war? Do states collapse, etc.? How ill this one be different 1930s? Will our soilets die out?

How do I profit from this?

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Do not reply to FATTY NATTs

>> No.18876503

>>18876444
>i think the bigger concern that leads to deflation is lack of demand
Again. It wouldn't have to be immediately unloaded on by a "bazooka" if it weren't for the debt. Jerome did the only thing the Fed can do and unleashed infinite QE. Every time the Fed does this they have to amp it up because interest rates are kept so long for so long its what you have to do to have any effect. It grows the debt and dumps the excess inflation into (primarily) equities creating wealth not backed by assets.
Every crash will get worse because the fix from the previous one will make the problems that much worse for the next one. And that will continue until someone decides to be an adult and raise interest rates while working to reduce the National Debt.
There were some 13% of US businesses in 2019 that couldn't make enough money to pay off the interest on their own debt obligations. How is that ever not going to bite us in the ass?
I think Jerome is passing the buck like all of his forerunners since Greenspan. I think he is a coward but he is probably scared of doing the right thing (his earlier interviews before he got the job seemed to suggest he knew this). It will just get that much worse in the future.

>> No.18876524

>>18876429
Fine, they're oil taxis. What happens to the meter in a taxi or an uber when it's full of stupid cunts after the bar closes? The meter goes up while the vehicle stores them in the drive-thru lane. Nowhere to take them until the line gets moving. Meanwhile other pigs are trying to get rides to the same places.
Tankers will go up and then down as people take profits out or give up on the bags they hold. Oil is still going to be fucked at the end of this month and storage will still be in high demand. The storage issue doesn't fix itself in a day or two like retards were thinking last week. Some companies will likely peak (for the year and beyond) in share price in June. I wouldn't buy unless there's a nice dip from an attractive company, but it might be too late. If you got in at a good price two or three weeks back you hold long enough for a DIV distribution and then watch for your time to take profits and leave tankers forever.

>> No.18876531
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18876531

I’m fine with what Jerome is doing. And I believe if inflation became a real problem he could hike and “do the right thing.”

What concerns me is that trump will fire him next year and replace him with a complete bootlicking follower.

>> No.18876537

>>18876095
Well there's smart money and tard money

>> No.18876543

>>18876429
>>18876524
Shuttle tankers are often described as “floating pipelines,” because these vessels typically shuttle oil from offshore installations to onshore facilities in much the same way a pipeline would transport oil along the ocean floor. Shuttle tankers can be either purpose-built or converted from existing conventional oil tankers.


The advantages of shuttle tankers as compared to pipelines include:

The use of shuttle tankers is a more flexible option than pipelines for the transportation of oil from the oil field to onshore terminals and provides destination flexibility for the customers;

Shuttle tankers provide a more flexible solution to declining production profiles and abandonment as a pipeline has a fixed capacity, whereas shuttle tanker capacity may be adjusted through reduced frequency of calls or reduced number of vessels serving a field;

Shuttle tanker operators may provide back-up capacity during times when existing transportation infrastructure is closed for maintenance or otherwise unavailable, which would enable uninterrupted production

Shuttle tankers require less significant up-front investment than pipelines; and

Shuttle tankers provide customers the benefit of purchasing unblended crude qualities, whereas pipelines usually provide a blend of different crude qualities as several oilfields may be connected to the same pipeline. A shuttle tanker may load at several fields during one single voyage, but oil from different fields may be kept separated in different compartments onboard.

>> No.18876544

>>18876531

>> No.18876550

>>18876531
Anyone placed into the Fed right now would have been forced to do exactly what Jerome did. It has boxed itself into a corner. MMT was built to give some rationality to it. Not the other way around.

>> No.18876565

WTI is gonna dip below 21 today r-r-right anon?

>> No.18876567

>>18876492
everyone expecting an exciting apocalypse is going to be disappointed. its more like - getting a job will be harder and harder. wages will fall. life would become grueling. people will somehow manage to inch along, the way they always do, but it'll get a lot bleaker.
our current lives will feel so excessive. "how did we afford takeout that often? how did I afford a new phone every 2 years? How did people put their kids through college?"
and the slums will grow.
you profit by buying puts, if you time it right. then once we ease into the slow, long decline, you can sell naked calls.
its still risky gambling, but if you're certain of a depression, that's one way to profit

>> No.18876583

>>18875783
You can't predict the market. It can go any way at any time. Just buy the dips regularly

>> No.18876597

>>18876492
I don't think we ever got out of the 2008 crash.
>stock market though
Not the point. All that talk about "wage stagnation" and " bring loss jobs back to X" and rising opioid use is very much what I would track with what your gut might tell you is a depression even if it isn't the textbook definition of one.

>> No.18876602

>>18875100
+1,2% futures already. I guess you were right.

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>considers the US dollar worthless after the brrrr
>calculates his net worth in USD

>> No.18876620

>>18876503
good post, very bearish.

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Who here /oilniggers/?

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>>18876637
>$65

>> No.18876688

>>18876597
idk m8. several american companies flourished from 09 to now. facebook, netflix, amazon, nu-apple, google all built their insane corporate empires during this time. I work contracted by FAANGs and i can visually see how much money they're willing to spend on the dumbest little things. all that corporate wealth does trickle down to the plebs. they have hundreds of personal trainers on payroll that don't do anything all day. they'll wax the floors every day. millions of janitors working 80 hour weeks. I'm not specifying which field im in but at some point last year we were billing one of them a million dollars a week for hundreds of full time positions doing literally NOTHING. and i mean absolutely nothing, and they knew it was for nothing. I'd say the last 6~ years were extremely prosperous.

this is only from my personal experience, but my salary has quadrupled in the last 4 years mostly due to the insane wealth and expansion of the FAANGs.

>> No.18876703

>>18876654
Hey hey, I'm not trying to make a fortune. I'm trading within my risk appetite and use trailing stops, when it dips enough, I sell it the re-enter.

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SWEDEN YES

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>>18876637
Im not touching oil with a 20 meter long pole and a hazmat suit
>>18876654
Sometimes I buy stuff for like 300$ to fund a pizza delivery. I know its bullshit, but its fun when you have nothing to do except watching theta decay.

>> No.18876749

>>18876612
Dollar actually gained against the Euro.

>> No.18876750

>>18876688
The real endgame threat for the Fed is technology. That is a true, ever increasing deflationary pressure that keeps accelerating. No amount of QE will be able to fight it. It frees up labor, makes what labor there is more efficient, and drives wages higher for those who catch the windfall because they become harder to keep. I am not a Luddite but no one wants to talk about this problem for the most part. It isn't an easy problem for politicians to resolve. It's why we are still talking about other countries "taking" US jobs when a lot of them have become almost completely automated.
UBI is actually one sloppy way to try to address it, and it comes from the tech field precisely because they realize what the road looks like ahead. I am not surprised the company was alright over paying a bunch of janitors. UBI came from the tech field.
I just don't see how the Fed can beat it and the debt is going to eat you if its too large at that point. I think I remember seeing a plan for a digital wallet from the Fed in the stimulus bill that they tried to add. Hilarious.

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>>18876720
Yeah, hence why the small allocation. It's been climbing for a couple of days now, I've tried shorting it a couple of times and almost burned my positions so I just stopped being a smartass and went along with the trend

>> No.18876763

>>18876749
That isn't hard to do. I have a hunch that some of the central banks in EU are more fucked than they are letting on. They didn't have a petrodollar to act as leverage against QE inflation that the US did.

>> No.18876770

>>18876750
>>I just don't see how the Fed can beat it and the debt is going to eat you if its too large at that point.
not when all countries have huge debts. then everybody is in the same situation and nothing bad happens

>> No.18876776

/newb/ here, how do some traders almost stay ahead of the news? do they just keep checking yahoo/bloomberg for news that *may* imply some sort of big news incoming?

>> No.18876778

Looks like we're still on track to a 2% open tomorrow, 5% by EOD. Plus nothing but positive earnings coming our way this week.

>> No.18876794

>>18876776
Majority of traders rely on technical analysis, while just knowing the general market sentiment.

>> No.18876796

>>18876776
The "pros" focus on several sectors and either build upon a pre-existing network or generate their own network of industry, government, etc. contacts relevant to those sectors. Where else is the news going to be released from if not those people?
>>18876770
What an interesting thought. It is also not close to how lopsided it is right now. It would necessarily mean a single unified currency and unified banking program. I just don't see that coming close to happening in our lifetime.

>> No.18876833
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>pre market just opens
>tankers immediately up

Well, I saw all I needed to see to sleep the rest of the night comfy. Cya all in a few hours.

>> No.18876845

>>18876776
Anybody that always seems to imply they are ahead of the news is most likely full of shit. Also, the real market movers, our benevolent overlords THE GREAT ALGOS, aren’t checking yahoo.

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Very green over here this morning bros

>> No.18876869

>>18876531
>uses bootlicking as an adjective
Communist opinion discarded

>> No.18876881

Haha the bulls are going to get wrecked

>> No.18876905

>>18876881
You misspelled bobos. Premarket is going green hard.

>> No.18876918
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18876918

Pandemic pushes Austrian unemployment to all-time high
Total's net profit falls 35%
Almost all German sectors implementing Kurzarbeit
Vonovia posts higher net income
German car sector morale plunges ahead of crunch Merkel meeting
EssilorLuxottica sales slump
Hellofresh revenue soars
Infineon reports Q2 net income of €178m
16% more charging stations for electric vehicles in Germany
Oerlikon in 15% revenue drop

>> No.18876933

>>18876918
You shorting DAX ?

>> No.18876934
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>>18876881
Hourly falling trend broke yesterday and futures + premarket are showing expectation of continuation of this short term reversal. At minimum there should be a retest of S&P 2950 off this.

>> No.18876939

>>18874760
join VOOGANG lowest expense ratio

>> No.18876945

>>18874760
>>18874857
>>18876939
SPYG
RPG
RZG

>> No.18876951

>>18874940
Anyone that fails to realise that 4 is a literal money printer doesnt belong on this board

>> No.18876968

>>18876951
Everyone already has 4
Either something happen or it doesn't

>> No.18876978

What about Hugo Boss?

>> No.18876988

>>18876933
Neither longing nor shorting it

>> No.18876989

>>18876918
yeah but financial reports are not relevant now. only in 6months they can be taken seriously

>> No.18877003

>>18876968
You change the odds of anything to 50%. That works tremendously in your favor in situations where the payout is very low odds. Think lotteries, roulette wheels, etc.

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uhoh brrbrr bros
ECB just got cucked

>> No.18877006

HAPPENING

German court just ruled ECB actions as illegal

https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilungen/EN/2020/bvg20-032.html

>> No.18877020

So when do I short the S&P 500 ?

>> No.18877021

>>18877003
you already have it
you either win or you dont
50%

>> No.18877027

I'm making so much money from gubment gibbs bros, I've gotten 5k so far and another 3k in this month alone.

>> No.18877029

these green futures are bullshit and you all know it

>> No.18877033

>>18877020
when you want to lose money

>> No.18877039

>>18877004
>>18877006
what does this mean?

>> No.18877047

>>18877006
Should i get some puts ?

>> No.18877049

>>18877029
cope harder bear nigger

>> No.18877050

>>18876989
What's relevant now?

>> No.18877051

>>18877021
You predict an outcome. It isn't preordained.
With the lottery you could flip a coin based on what numbers you WOULD select to see if you win. Do this, say 6 times for each number possibility. Automate it for speed.
If the coin says yes, you are almost certain to win with that combination. The odds it says you'd win and you wouldn't with that combination (because it keeps saying yes when it shouldn't be) are (1/2)^6 = 0.015 or 1.5%
The lottery goes from 1 in a billion shot to 98.5% chance to win for you.

>> No.18877084

>>18877051
ok but what if your first 1 billion guesses are wrong but you get to the 50%

>> No.18877085

>>18877006

The decision published today does not concern any financial assistance measures taken by the European Union or the ECB in the context of the current coronavirus crisis.

U didnt read this part?

>> No.18877093

>>18876869
I'm not a comm
>>18876881
ohhhh you're just another raging bear taking out his senseless anger on others.

>> No.18877105

>>18876934
ouch looks like I picked another stupid fucking time to short smallcaps...

But I did buy BILI on friday when it was dumping mega hard!

>> No.18877139

>>18877029
You will get rekt over and over again. Why are bears so deluded?

>> No.18877147
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18877147

>wti at 22

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>>18876881
lol at the bear cope in this thread. 40k dow in september.

>> No.18877173

>>18877166
You are the real bear here. Try 50k EoM.

>> No.18877226

>>18877166
>>18877173
both of you are too smallminded
100k Dow, 100k/yr UBI, amazon robots take over the economy

>> No.18877228

>>18877147
TANKER CHADS

>> No.18877231

>>18875279
>suicide grip
oh nononono

>> No.18877233

>>18877147
Source?

>> No.18877234

>>18877085
DAX doesnt look like it read it lol

>> No.18877236

wait people are still thinking futures are relevant ?

>> No.18877242

>>18877233
nvm found it

>> No.18877244

futures are nose diving

>> No.18877247
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I REFUSE TO BUY

>> No.18877256

>>18877051
This is actually an excellent point. And 50% is far more than chance for many things.

But I’m satisfied with the ability to make women’s breasts swell and lactate. Now I just have to find one that isn’t infected and isn’t on any hormonal birth control, who’s willing to let me drink straight from the tap.

Gimme those raw milk gains.

>> No.18877276

FUCK THIS MARKET, WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO BRING THIS MEME ECONOMY DOWN/DO WE NEED TO NUKE CHINA OR WHAT?

THE JEW CAN'T BE ALLOWING US TO HAVE GUARANTEED RETURN, THERE MUST BE A CATCH?

>> No.18877284

>>18877276
are you very angry?

>> No.18877289

God damn what rich kike just woke up and decided the futures were too high

>> No.18877302

>>18877284
Is that the new fear/greed index?

>> No.18877307

>>18877289
arab lovers in germany decided QE BAD

>> No.18877315

>>18877006
It seems the ECB has three months to show its QE is "proportionate" to the crisis. This sounds like something that will get sorted in backroom dealings.

>> No.18877319

>>18877289
Mr. Crabenstein usually starts trading about now.

>> No.18877323

>>18874940
pls 4 pls 4 pls 4

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>>18877319

>> No.18877332

>>18877289
due to DAX dumping and the german court rule, not the other way as usual lol

>> No.18877335

>>18877307
QE is usury and therefore bad

>> No.18877339

>>18874940
Eight is fucking easy life.

>> No.18877351

I've got about $400 to fuck around with, should I dca my SPY puts, or play DIS earnings on the downside?

>> No.18877374

>>18877351
i feel bad for your money

>> No.18877381

>>18877335
You can’t just pretend words mean whatever you want them to mean.

>> No.18877392

Here's an article. It's not all bad news:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeosullivan/2020/05/05/german-court-rejects-complaint-against-bund-purchases-warns-ecb/#1042747f3148

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>>18874940
so 8 means I can change anyones mind? seems like it could lead to unforeseen consequences heh

>> No.18877408

Thank you Germany for ruining this world for the xth time.

>> No.18877414

>>18877234

Stonks market is so stupid.

People buy on rumours sell on news obviously.

>> No.18877445

>>18877414
>>18877234
there might be far reaching implications of this ruling that no one can readily judge for now, since it spans back years to 2015

>> No.18877463

>>18874940
Couldn't 4 be used to become extremely wealthy? Like ask yourself 'who will win the superbowl' and bet a bunch on it, then ask 'who will win the world cup' etc, keep doing this and you'll win half the time but your winnings will be a lot more than 2x.

>> No.18877467

>>18877408
If you read the Forbes article you will see that they actually didn't. They reject the complaint against the ECB. The whole thing people freaked out about is a request that the ECB clarify their QE process such that it satisfies the legal requirement of 'proportionate', with a three month deadline. So basically ECB just needs to get some lawyers together to produce a sheaf of papers filled with legalese that say it's cool and stuff.

>> No.18877469

Is it worth to buy stocks from Boeing?

>> No.18877494

>>18877469
Why not? Just long it, stocks are not allowed to drop anymore, Court decided it would be illegal.

>> No.18877498

>>18877469
Sure, if it's future discounted cash flows outsize the current price.

>> No.18877514

Should I just buy a Nasdaq ETF?

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>>18874940
Doesn't everyone have 0 already?

>> No.18877523

>>18876933
>You shorting DAX ?
Kurzarbeit and home office are bullish
Boomers realize what was obvious for 15 years now, there is no need for offices

>> No.18877538

I was so damn close to buying cheap af 5/15 calls for MVIS last Friday but am new to options and ended up getting 8/21 calls :( I still made money but wtf man I could have been extremely happy

>> No.18877558

gnu thread
>>18877541
>>18877541
>>18877541


>>18877514
spyg

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>>18877514
only if you think we are just after 2008

>> No.18877567

>>18876978
Isn't quality like it used to be i guess
>>18877039
>>18877006
Its just a formality, Bundesregierung has to look at the stuff first, then they will give ok and move on

>> No.18877576

>>18877538
That you're playing options period and taking gains is commendable. I've sold to early a number of times recently but a gain beats the fuck out of a loss.

>> No.18877588

>>18877576
Yeah that’s the right mentality to have, can’t beat myself up over would have scenarios

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>>18877247
that's why you will never make it

>> No.18877634

>>18877139
>>18877049
literally show me credible info that remdesivir works, employees getting their jobs back, businesses not going bankrupt, consumers returning to spending

>> No.18877692

>>18874940
Rolling for 1

>> No.18877702

>>18877020
In February you idiot

>> No.18877787

how the fuck is +.85% considered "bull market"?