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>> No.18841588
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First for bobos

>> No.18841593
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What If Tesla Made Electric Oil Tankers?

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>> No.18841610
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Who /dividend investor on TSX/ here. I'll be less poor in like 20 years.

>> No.18841618

3 days of no stock change here in Europe is weird.

>> No.18841623

Throwing 30k into Puts on Monday. Good luck frens.

>> No.18841626

>>18841593
thicc

>> No.18841636

>>18841610
>Mfw I used to laugh at this faggot
>Mfw my president is a full blown retard so I envy Leafs now

2020 is a hell of a drug

>> No.18841639

$MVIS Moon mission til Friday

>> No.18841643

When do futures open?

>> No.18841650

>>18841636

Shut the fuck up retard. That guy just banned semi auto guns across the board because of a one off literally nothing shooting.

>> No.18841655

>>18841643
3pm est

>> No.18841695

>>18841650
Who didn't even get his guns legally, mind.

>> No.18841710

>>18841650
I wonder what the Forgotten Weapons guy has to say about this. He's Canadian.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ForgottenWeapons/videos

>> No.18841741

Why do futures open?

>> No.18841754

How do futures open?

>> No.18841760

>>18841741
What do futures open

>> No.18841776

>>18841741
Unfortunately, the clock is ticking. The hours are going by, the past increasing, the futures opening. Do you understand?

>> No.18841778

>>18841710
He is literally not. He is Arizonian.

>> No.18841779

>>18841650
Let no disaster go to waste

>> No.18841784

>>18841593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3CUQvUvqac

>> No.18841797

Defense bros rise up.

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/03/849756487/north-and-south-korean-forces-briefly-trade-gunfire-along-border

>> No.18841802

>>18841650
because orangenigger has been so good for our second amendment lmao

>> No.18841822

>>18841778
I see. I don't know why I thought he Canadian.

>> No.18841824

>>18841593
What if it snowed in San Francisco?

>> No.18841828
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Monday is decided right here right now.

>> No.18841831

I fomoed in at the top.

>> No.18841841

>>18841802
>>>/r/eddit/

>> No.18841860
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you like?

>> No.18841864

>>18841797
As long as Trump and male Kim are bff's, there will be no end to the ceasefire.

>> No.18841868 [DELETED] 

>>18841841
seething kike

>> No.18841872

>>18841828
To be fair, I am pretty sure that most investment articles are written by robots.

>> No.18841874
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>>18841828
Dumb. Check these digis for the answer

>> No.18841887

>>18841872
Same here.

>> No.18841898

why did the saudis crash so hard today? is there any particular reason?

>> No.18841901

>>18841828
Rolling.

>> No.18841908
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>> No.18841911

>>18841872
I wonder how soon we'll see a complete system that both trades and writes the articles for maximum jewery. maybe it already is that way

>> No.18841915

>>18841828
rollan

>> No.18841925

>>18841908
>shopify
>""""earnings"""" release
hhahaha

>> No.18841933
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>>18841925
This.

>> No.18841946

>>18841908
>AIG is still alive
What the fuck?

>> No.18841970
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>>18841908
>Sony

>> No.18841975

>>18841760
How do futures open?

>> No.18841983

>>18841828
Bloody red

>> No.18841986
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>>18841550
/smg/ is extremely low quality today

>> No.18841987 [DELETED] 

What do futures open?

>> No.18841990

I think everybody calmed down over the weekend and the selling is going to stop.

>> No.18842008

>>18841987
5 and a half hours.

>> No.18842010

>>18841990
No

>> No.18842014

>>18841925
Yeah, puts on SHOP for fucking sure.

>>18841983
>stocks recover a shocking 12% after Powell issues statements
FUCK YOU JPOW
FUCK YYYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>> No.18842019
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$MVIS chads report

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>>18841990
I bought some stocks of a Canadian REIT run by literal Jews on Friday. I'll be OK right?

>> No.18842072

>>18841990
>some countries have been forced to hold bags for 3 days straight while the american stock market shit itself on friday
Yeah no selloff incoming

>> No.18842074

>>18841550
Redpill me on stocks and shares ISAs lads
H&L worthwhile?

>> No.18842077
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gimme dat milk you motherfucking cow market

>> No.18842084

>>18842019
Should I buy more?

>> No.18842086

>>18841593
What if there was some way these tankers could harvest the power of wind? Perhaps some type of cloth material that could propel them?

>> No.18842091

>>18841901
>Stocks recover an unprecedented 31% after retail investors rush into the market.
I believe this (on TSX).

>> No.18842101

>>18841987
Futures

>> No.18842103

>>18842072
Yeah but it would be foolish to sell right now while the prices are so low.

>> No.18842105

>>18841593
Energy density

>> No.18842108
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>>18842086

>> No.18842117

>>18842084
Yes. Go all in on it

>> No.18842124

>>18842086
commercial shipping actually have some sails they use occasionally when the wind is up, saves some diesel

>> No.18842130

>>18842103
Time to buy tesla calls

>> No.18842147

>>18842103
>low

>> No.18842148

>>18842103
>prices are low

>> No.18842149

>>18841593
im surprised they arent nuclear powered and run in chains like trains... just have a couple of those travelling the world

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>>18842086
>>18841593
>>18842124
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotor_ship

>> No.18842167

>>18842103
dude you are retarded no wonder your balding gook gf left you. we will go down this week.

>> No.18842168

>>18842149
Would you really trust them with nuclear reactors?

>> No.18842189

Best invest in Tankers Bros

Oil capacity reaching full by Mid-May. Earnings report around the same time. DHT, May 6. NAT (Everyone's favorite), May 12. FRO, May 21.

>> No.18842198

>>18842166
Makes you wonder what other “archaic” inventions are out there that if modernized would be much more useful today.

>> No.18842199

>>18842189
STNG may 6 too but they're too expensive for my liking.

>> No.18842204

>>18841911
I'm sure it's already here, why would they let us poor goyim know about that

>> No.18842214

>>18842103
>the bounce has almost made a full recovery giving bagholders an exit point
>the recovery seems to have ran out of steam
>people who bought the dip might secure their big profits
>money printing toned down
The prices aren't very low all things considered.

>> No.18842222

>>18842199
Cpp tanker rates are sky high and will probably remain that way since there is a shortage of coated aframaxes

>> No.18842232

>>18842019
60 shares for the hell of it

>> No.18842234
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bros

>> No.18842256

>>18842232
big spender of a whole $28 dollars here lmao

>> No.18842263

>>18842149

For running sea vessels, nuclear is more expensive than conventional fuels. The reason subs and carriers use it is because the military is willing to pour a lot of money into having properly submersible submarines, and carriers with unlimited time at sea. It wouldn't be competitive as a transport system, unfortunately.

>> No.18842264

Someone explain to me what is P/E (Price to Earnings ratio) as if I were a bumbling retard.

>> No.18842270

>tiny pullback on the way to recovery
>bears think we are in for another march drop
It's going back to 2950 on monday. All the panicky investors sold already

>> No.18842288

>>18842264
It’s the price of a share divided by the earnings per share hence price per earnings

>> No.18842289

>>18842189
Forgot to add....This earnings report is not even the full spectrum of their earnings.

Expect oil business to be slow during the summer and when September/October hits, Lock down Part II begins.

>> No.18842301

>>18842264
stock price divided by the earnings per share

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>>18841860
what is this even from?
why doesn't it say "take a short position and cry on national television?"

>> No.18842309

>>18842264
Price of the stock compared to the company’s earnings. Say the company earns $1B/year and the market cap is $10B, P/E is 10

>> No.18842311

>>18842288
But is it always a good metric to rate a company's stock strength?

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imagine unironically thinking tankers have peaked

>> No.18842331

>>18842264
Something that stopped mattering in 2008 and then REALLY stopped mattering in 2020
To answer though:
Price is the market valuation of all the shares of the company based on its current list price. Earnings is supposed to mean revenue. So P/E gives a sense of how long you'd have to wait before it makes as much money as its stock is worth. Generally very high, very low, or negative values are supposed to be flags especially if compared with competitors and thus a buy or sell indicator. Unfortunately companies now that so they play accounting tricks to inflate earnings.
TSLA just pulled this off with their earnings report this quarter

>> No.18842332

>>18842311
Price/Earnings and Price/Book value are two values you want to look at to see if the stock is overpriced. There is more to look at though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfDB9e_cO4k&list=PLECECA66C0CE68B1E

>> No.18842339

>>18842311
i am not afraid of high P/Es. however, i like when a stock drops so hard that it has a single digit P/E

>> No.18842377

>>18842331
>>18842332
Thanks for the answer, lads. What's the optimal range for a solid, dependable P/E?

>> No.18842378

>>18842264

You spend $100 to own 1% of a company. The company makes $2000 per year, which in theory you "own" 1% of, which is $20. The price paid over the earnings you're entitled to is 100/20, which is 5, which is very good; if the company just started shitting out all its profits into dividends, it would have outright paid you back in 5 years. Typical real life P/E is more like 12-15, and obviously the % you own is much smaller, as is the % of earnings you are responsible for as an owner.

>> No.18842404

>>18842377
>What's the optimal range for a solid, dependable P/E?
Depends on the industry sector. Generally you'll see 10-30 P/E with a few exceptions. Tech, (in)famously, is higher.

>> No.18842405

>>18842199
https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/category/daily-tanker-market-rates/

Check the vlcc rates (dumped, imo temporarily) to LR2 rates. STNG is almost entirely cpp tankers

>> No.18842411

What are some solid dividend stocks to buy on the next leg down. I'm talking companies that are likely to keep paying dividend through this crisis. No boomer stocks that may become obsolete in a couple of years like T and IBM. Also nothing with strong ties to china like TXN

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>>18841828
This roll is the only one that matters, every roll before and after this roll is invalid.

Now watch and be mystified by the Green Day that will come Monday

>> No.18842427

>>18842411
MVIS

>> No.18842431

>>18842377
John Bogle said in a 2018 interview:
>P/E UNDER 10 = 85% CHANCE IT'LL INCREASE IN THE NEXT DECADE
>P/E ABOVE 25 = 85% IT'LL GO DOWN

>> No.18842444

>>18842411
Its a waste to buy dividend stocks now unless you can buy like $300k+ worth. JNJ is the most indestructible divvy stock there is. But it might be slightly overvalued but it also barely gave a shit about the first leg down.

>> No.18842452

For me, it's Keurig Dr. Pepper.

Canada Dry is the new Coke.

>> No.18842454

so i just saw buffet with the airline sell off
imagine unironically holding airline stocks in this environment , what the fuck are people thinking? is it just normie investors or have some of you fucks also bought in and are bagholding?

>> No.18842473

God I can’t wait till futures open

>> No.18842485

>>18842454
Airlines, hotel, and oil are somehow safer than the pump and dumps this board invests in. This is what happens when you get crypto get rich quickers looking to diversify.

>> No.18842488

>>18842411
Personally I think KO, PEP, JNJ, PG are pretty good. I also have MCD, RTX, DHT, UN and MDZ but will probably try to get rid of those

>> No.18842489

>>18842454
I bought DAL at 22.80 but that may have been a mistake.. I just can’t see how much further they would fall. Where would the new bottom sit at considering this ends in June?

>> No.18842492

>>18842378
Thanks for the answer, fren. This is exactly what I wanted to know.

>> No.18842494

>>18842473
You're going to be disappointed

>> No.18842511

What kinda red are we looking at for tomorrow?

>> No.18842513

>>18842494
How? I’m expecting it to be blood red. I won’t be dissappointed

>> No.18842515

>>18842411
UPS, FedEx....both are low, both pay dividends.

>> No.18842517

>>18842405
I checked it out in more details and I generally like it, but I still feel that the upside for STNG is lower than for other options right now based on historical trends. I might sell some puts to make up for it.

>> No.18842518

>>18842511
Crab red

>> No.18842526

>>18842454
I was taken in by the glamour of the polos.

>> No.18842528

>>18842489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVvwCkB-JLE&t=3m49s

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>>18842454
>normie investors or have some of you fucks
>fucks here aren't normies
I can't tell you how many times people said they were going right for those stocks directly in the blast zone. So many newfags coming in and posting "so you think it's safe to buy here? It's so cheap! No way it's going lower" about the cruises, airlines, hotels, and casinos.

>>18842444
That leg down is where I got to work my position down to $122 DCA, and I'd love the chance to do it again. But I don't think I'll get it, JNJ already reported earnings and raised their dividend, people shouldn't panic sell it or have to sell it so low in forced liquidation. But there should be a better opportunity to buy this week.

>>18842488
I agree with KO, PEP, JNJ, PG.
Do you mean MDLZ not MDZ? That's one I want, same with MCD if it gets hit again.

>> No.18842565

>>18842517
Yeah, Stng is in a worse position financially but this crisis is better for them as a company. I'm in a swathe of the industry with a lot of dht

>> No.18842578

>>18842553
yea i keep forgetting that people here are worse than normie investors

>> No.18842589

>>18842513
Hnnnnnnnnnng

>> No.18842592

>>18842074
Pls

>> No.18842594

>>18842528
its kinda bad advice though because so many stocks just don't ever bottom and actually do recover, like you can get filthy rich off robbing shorts like that

>> No.18842609

>>18842431
>Current S&P 500 PE Ratio: 20.30

>> No.18842615

>>18842513
It's going to be +-0.5% fluctuating. There won't be a lot of movement. Maybe a gap up in the morning. You missed the big crash

>> No.18842619

>>18842565
I think a $15 price target is decent but wouldn't go any higher, so I'm going to get some jul $18p @ $3+ and roll with it. Got some calls on dht, tnp and fro, will probably get some on tk and possibly nat as well.

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>>18842589
>>18842513
Pic related - ready for second leg down since all the earnings are going to bomb and inevitable BBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRR pullback.

>> No.18842631

>>18842528
Thanks cool video.. so applying his logic I need to be more cautious at 60% debt to capital

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>>18842578
I'm just talking about the wave of new people who came in because of the crash, I'd say most of them are beginner normie investors.

Not that i'm any better. I'm gonna get hit hard, I hold a lot of Berkshire.

>> No.18842634

>>18842553
>Do you mean MDLZ not MDZ?
Yes, exactly. I meant Mondelez.

>> No.18842636

>>18842189
DHT actually moved the date to the 5th. They are eager to get it out there. I'm dumping MRO monday and moving to DHT or another one for hedging.

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>>18842452
What the fuck?

>> No.18842669

>>18840600
>>18840608
>>18840643
I sold them for a profit before. Bought some more intending to do the same. It's one of my smaller positions.

>>18841011
Similar sentiment as I held it past 14 while I had it in a sell call which pissed me off. You think theyd exercise but now anyone who took my contract and held it actually lost as I came out profitable in the end when I closed it.

>> No.18842696

>>18842515
UPS does seem pretty good. They also barely recovered since march.

>> No.18842713

>>18842489
New bottom is 35% assuming Trump goes full retard on China because that is how much tariffs dropped the markets last time, that is about SPY 191. So for you DAL 14 or so?

Eventually, unless we wait for a vaccine stuff is coming back this year and when it does we'll probably never get another of these again.

If Biden is president I am pretty sure market is going to be the most boring ever, best move is to buy a high dividend ETF like SPYD and get 12% yearly gains.

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>4,5 hours until the BIG GREEN DONG on futures

post yfw

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>>18841550
>JNJ
>AMD
>NVDA
>NIO
>YELP
should i go all in JANNY?

>> No.18842732

>>18842454
If I sell my airline stocks for what they close on friday i come out profitable. I intend to get rid of many stocks on Monday. If i can get rid of at least half I walk away with a nice profit.

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>>18842528
thanks
I don't think I've ever heard Pete talk. I wish he had narrated his own audiobooks.

The guy bought Taco Bell as it fell from $14 to $7, kept buying as it went to $1... I don't think I could stomach that. I need to get much better at reviewing the financials.

https://youtu.be/4IhSkIUhjF0

>> No.18842736

Why is everyone saying futures will tank? Seems like hopium to me, shit will stay on course.

>> No.18842743

>>18841828
Rollin for snabbin.

>> No.18842767

>>18842736
when S&P500 hits $2790 on low volume it's a BUY signal

>> No.18842780

>>18842619
Be careful. You might get crushed by slower crabbing towards the upside

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>>18841828

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how long am I gonna have to hold this?

>> No.18842799

who's ready for the greenest day since last thursday

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>>18842786

>> No.18842825

>>18842799
>endless pump and dumps of permabulls
Tomorrow I sell

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>>18842728
I think AMD is finding price right now, I wouldn't gamble on it holding against the competition, but it's hard to ascertain how well INTC is actually going to perform with their industrial moat. Honestly to hedge you could probably grab INTC, but it's pretty much wholly recovered. AMD was pushing ATH and is actually fucking mooning since like 2017.

INTC and NVDA both have a wider market spread with NVDA doing a lot of compute-domain shit like AI and self-driving which is a big meme. INTC is introducing a discrete GPU and has IoT and a bunch of new streamlined products among other things compared to AMD which is pushing semi-customs. INTC will probably make a bid for that market next generation though, which would see a nice net increase.

AMD and NVDA are both highly reliant on overseas production, where INTC at the very least has fabs stateside and in Israel, though they're not production capacity, they're currently better situated to fulfill their supply chain demand.

TL;DR
Do it faggot. But buy INTC too since they can grow in many directions as they have marketshare excised.

>> No.18842854

>>18842799
what gives you confidence its going to be green?

>> No.18842864

>>18842489
Anon, it can fall to zero. It wouldn't be the first, second, or third airline to have fallen into bankruptcy. Northwest did exactly that 20 years ago--the assets of which DAL purchased for pennies on the dollar.

Personally, I see the government nationalizing most of the airlines in the next few years, similar to Amtrak. The Feds want to make every form of travel except by foot a giant Orwellian hassle. They have been stepping all over the Constitution for decades, claiming that they can restrict and regulate basically all forms of vehicle transport because vehicles didn't exist in the 1700s, or some.dumb shit.

>> No.18842874

>>18842767
Way too early. 2660 is probably a good buy support range.

>> No.18842892

>>18842799
the wizard just assassinated airlines this weekend, they're gonna drag everyone down to their level on Monday

>> No.18842927

>>18842892
well I be holding my DAL

>> No.18842972

Went all in on spxs for 10.70 on Friday how fucked am I?

>> No.18842974

>>18842927
But why tho?

>> No.18842990

Is Elon going to do more drugs? Any word from the SEC?

>> No.18842992

Will ZM go down this week? Some meme lines fags think it will go up.

>> No.18842996

>>18842972
U good bro, moon tomorrow

>> No.18843007

>>18842974
because I got the shares at 23 and by this time next year, or the year after, it will be in the 40-50 range

>> No.18843023

>>18842992
ZM is now part of Nasdaq so index funds and ETFs that track it now have to buy it

>> No.18843033

>>18842329
It will be our week friend

>> No.18843036

>>18843007
This is peak bagholding

>> No.18843047

I just took a massive shit which made me realize spy is hitting 295 on Monday and 300 eow

>> No.18843070

>>18843036
You spelled “investing” wrong.. 200% return even after 2 years is a fine investment

>> No.18843074

>>18843036
Do you think the government will let the airlines go valueless and bankrupt?

>> No.18843081

what's the REALISTIC average monthly stock market profit in %?

>> No.18843084

>>18843047
based

>> No.18843086

>>18843070
if you're not following buffet and selling everything now you're idiotic

>> No.18843095

>>18843074
There is no reason to think there won't be some buyouts and restructuring. Some of the airlines are in better position to survive than others and it is cheapest to buy a competitor after they have filed for bankruptcy.
If you hold a stock to such a company your investment is worth zero.

>> No.18843097

>>18843070
you mean 100%.
100% in 2 years is good, but not amazing

>> No.18843102

>>18843070
That’s only 100% return though. Or do you tell people you get a 100% return when you break even? Maybe breaking even is that much of an accomplishment for you kek

>> No.18843118

>>18843047
No volume. No momentum. Resistance has been around the same level for almost a month. But please, explain your thesis.

>>18843074
Bankrupt? Yes. It's happened in the past, and it could happen again. They would get restructured or bought, with shareholders having the potential to lose everything if the former happens.

>> No.18843121

>>18841650
>banned semi auto guns
The ban is more retarded than that. It's not a blanket semi auto rifle ban. Instead they took a mostly arbitrary list of scary meanie guns and banned them by name. There are still lots of semi rifles nit included in the list. And there is a two year amnesty, which means Trudy could be gone and the order overturned by the conservatives before end of amnesty period. Also nobody is going to comply anyway.

>> No.18843123

>>18842431
Wow what a masterfull saying of nothingness
>p/e under 10
Either its stable and worth far more or it starts collapsing with earnings down

>> No.18843129

>>18842864
If PanAm and TWA can fall, they all can.

>> No.18843137

frens please shill me some critical IT, data, cloud computing and 5g companies

>> No.18843138

>>18843081
5-6% over your lifetime if you are an index fund guy, if you are a retail buyer 95% lose money. There are people who retail buy that do research and buy the buffett style and do better with returns, but after you buy like 20 stocks you are pretty diversified anyways.

>> No.18843140

>>18842990
didnt you hear the news he overdosed on a cocktail of pcp, meth, crack cocaine, lsd, mdma, 2cd, petrol, heroin, nitrous oxide, steroids, hash and paint thinners.
and by overdose i mean just a regular weekend with grimes

>> No.18843151

>>18841828
lol rollannn

>> No.18843159

>>18841778
Arizonan

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>>18843023
>Nasdaq 100
>Nobody cares
ZM is dead. Wait, dont tell me you own ZM??

>> No.18843172

>>18842736
Fed BRRRR confirmed to be reduced by 90%, Elon and boomer buffet preaching doom and brimstone. Why would futures be green?

>> No.18843177

>>18843102
I’m a bit more optimistic, I’d say $66 P/S by the end of 2021. Do you realize how much pent up demand there is for tourism? There will be record numbers of flights once this shill of a virus is over

>> No.18843178

>>18843118
I feel better after I dump, spy dumped on Friday, prob feels better now too

>> No.18843210

>>18843177
fuck off, you're not smarter than buffet

sell your airlines even if you take a massive loss

>> No.18843212

>>18843177
>Do you realize how much pent up demand there is for tourism?
Which fewer people can afford. And international travel will be fucked between countries.
Also leisure travel is peanuts with business travel. Most of those major conferences have been cancelled or moved to next year.
The only people who should hold airline bags should have polo shirts as a significant part of their portfolios.

>> No.18843221

>>18843178
This is the type of market analysis I need. When will your book be available?

>> No.18843228

>>18843177
Consumers are gonna be broke for a long time and businesses have perfected teleconferencing over this time. Demand won’t be anywhere near what it was before.

>> No.18843249

>they are going to sell because buffet, prophet of bogdanoff told them to

>> No.18843250

>>18843177
>>18843212
airlines seems like one of the worst things to invest in rn

>> No.18843257

desu I kind of hope we get a few red days just so the chance to get mid-long dated SPY calls is there before the end of the week. This is clown world we live in, and new ATHs this year is beyond a foregone conclusion. The only thing almost as certain is TSLA $1,500 by end of year.

>> No.18843271

>>18843178
Hm. Can you post every time you drop a deuce? We can benchmark it going forward.

>>18843177
>Pent up demand.
People are going to be paying off their debt obligations first. There's going to be a lot less discretionary spending for some time. There's going to be a secular headwind for the airline industry in the form of consumer reluctance for years on top of the lack of spending. It took the airline industry over five years to recovery from 9/11. Good luck trying to squeeze those returns out of DAL.

>> No.18843274

>>18843177
>pent up demand
This phrase should automatically discredit anyone's opinion. So fucking stupid.

>> No.18843275

>>18843249
because hes the smartest man alive when it comes to trading and if you don't follow him you might as well throw your money away

>> No.18843279

>>18843249
he boooought?

>> No.18843284

>>18843275
ahahahahahahaahh, he literally bought at the top and sold on the bottom

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>>18843212
You're laughing while polo investors are making it rain.

>> No.18843294

>>18843284
if he sold at the bottom then obviously that wasnt the bottom retard

>> No.18843314

>>18843294
let's see how it unfolds

>> No.18843322

>>18843250
>>18843212
>>18843271
>>18843274
Thank you all for crushing my dreams. Looks like it’s time to call it quits tomorrow morning

>> No.18843325

>>18843314
buffet is literally always right, going against him is stupidity

>> No.18843331

>>18843140
kek

>> No.18843334

>>18843314
>Implying buffett is wrong

>> No.18843342

>>18841636
muh président stupid

>> No.18843369

>>18843212
>Also leisure travel is peanuts with business travel.
You might want to do some research on that. I was surprised when I did. I still agree with your position regardless.

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Is DHT gonna pump tomorrow?

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>>18843334
I just don't get what does he know now that he didn't know before, the virus situation was pretty clear and travel bans were all over the world what's changed?

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>>18843334
>>18843325
idiots

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>>18843177
Have you seen the estimates for Q3 where unemployment peaks? And that's discounting tons of businesses being severely impacted and generally reducing the velocity of money across the board. It's also discounting the biggest spenders being boomers, who are among the high-risk category, and while some will totally disregard that, there are certainly many that will remain homebound until a viable vaccine is on offer. And with that it should be considered that traveling for visitation will also be greatly limited as a product of this. Moreover there's a good chance of re-emergence, both immediately and in the fall/winter months were lots of travel is undertaken. Finally the proliferation of WFH modalities will likely become a more permanent facet of a wide swath of industry, meaning even commercial travelers will be in decline.

>> No.18843423

>>18843395
he is old, his hands are weak, he spilled the beans at the bottom and now he is going to either fomo ath or take his cash pile to the grave

>> No.18843425

>>18843279
Reversal

>> No.18843430

>>18843402
It didn't change how he invested. It changed the state of his investments and he adjusted according to his strategy.

>> No.18843441

>>18843402
he's right, you should always get out of bad positions even if its at a loss to find value

>> No.18843454

I;m Thinking About Thos Puts

>> No.18843460

>>18843395
So. I've been meaning to say this the whole thread but never cared enough.

I don't know why people are talking about this now, but it was in the news over a month ago Buffet dumped airlines. Again I don't know why now it's resurfacing, but that either was announced or happened a month ago.

It was brought up here but all the brr / priced in memes drowned it out. On that note, is it just me or has the mood changed in here? I feel like amzn and netflx shitting themselves was a reality call to most here.

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I'm seeing more traffic than usual, people are out enjoying the sun but from a reasonable social distance.

Went to a local neighborhood and people were socially distancing at the park with their families, riding bikes and rollerblading.


Things aren't too bad here in Toronto, some businesses will open starting Monday, and if things remain calm I expect to see more re-openings when it is safe to do so

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>starting a position on airlines thursday

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>>18843430
>>18843441
ok bogdabots you persuaded me, I am capitulating

>> No.18843496

>>18843487
good you should, thank me and buffet later when all the airlines go bankrupt

>> No.18843501

Zoomers: buy the dip on anything even airlines. You will make it.
The government will not let anything fail.

Everyone else: (not so sure)

This sums up /smg/ over the past 3 days.

>> No.18843516

>>18843496
>inb4 buffet buys my bags

>> No.18843518

>>18843379
Tuesday is the conference my man but it may take a while for more oil glut to happen.

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>>18843395
He's always hated airlines, but then his feefees changed about em decided to start positions on them thinking the companies would be more stable. Well you know how the rest goes so he just said fuck it and got out.
He's a stupid old fuck Hillary supporter anways, fck that retard

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>>18843177
Today, I will remind them.

>Juan Brown is an AA B777 F/O who runs a YouTube channel under the ID "blancolirio" with 170K subscribers. His latest video has no talking. It was shot out the window of an airliner landing and rolling out at PIT and shows dozens upon dozens of parked AA mainline Jets. There's some text giving some numbers on 1Q loss and some other stuff. We know about how many jets are parked but still seeing it like this makes it a lot more real.

https://youtu.be/tF1ZIPvFvok

>> No.18843555

>>18843539
>muh hillary
was wondering why there were so many retarded buffet haters here today, looks like the trumpfags have invaded

>> No.18843570

>>18843501
whatever man my entire portfolio is only 10k and if I lose it all I go from being poor, to being very poor.

Line goes up

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>>18843555
>implying I'm wrong
It was either a crazy old bitch crashing the economy or making bank with Trump
You choose dumbfuck.

>> No.18843593

>>18843501
I unironically researched if any of the airline CEOs were buddies with Trump. Couldn't find anything so I stayed away. CCL, meanwhile, will defy all logic with bailout money because Micky Arison helped bankroll "The Apprentice" for years. And the entire cruise industry might get windfalls from that. So despite being shitty pollution and disease boxes, they are more likely to get sustained help than airlines.

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>>18843501
I don't have airlines or tech stocks.

>> No.18843604

>>18843581
We'd probably have been better off with Hillary during this crisis and it probably wouldnt have wrecked the economy like Trump did and put millions of lives at risk.

>> No.18843639

>>18843554
Okay this really puts this shit into perspective. That's just one airport too. I wonder what the total length of grounded airliners amounts to right now.

>> No.18843648

>>18843604
Only because when Hillary would have said 'stop chinks from coming in' the mainstream reaction in march would have be 'omg such quick response murrika fuk ya' whereas when trump said 'stop chinks from coming in' the mainstream reaction in january was 'muh rayciss tramp'.

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>>18843554
>Entire fucking field of dead planes
OH FUCK! THAT LAST SHOT!

>> No.18843666

>>18843604
You're right cause the media would have backed her up the whole way through the crisis, but since orangemanbad is in office they crash the economy and shut down everything to hurt his reelection.
Though he does says retarded shit most of the time and does hurt himself as well.
But whatever lets just continue to buy high and sell low

>> No.18843669

>>18843648
trump was slow af, he's an idiot that told people to drink bleach and fish tank cleaner

buffet was spot on in supporting hillary just like his other decisions

>> No.18843673

>>18841550
any european stock to buy into, with a big risk and big reward?

>> No.18843675

>>18843395
He knows that the worst is yet to come. This is not about reopening countries, this is about the damage which is done to the companies. Mass lay offs, mass bankruptcies, mass unemployment, shit consumer confidence, shit earnings.

We are following a picture book bear market rally right now and rejected at the 2950 perfectly.

Buffett clearly warned about the FED purchases and hinted at the balance sheets, which is nothing new - but the FED decreased their buys for like 90% already and we dropped and the rejection. They know it is dangerous as fuck to prop it up higher.

To your question? Buffett knows everything, he is linked to probably every single person who has sth to say. He is owning partial and entire companies of (((them))).

And the biggest indicator that this is not over, is his cash balance. He bought nothing.

>> No.18843679

>>18843570
There needs to be a reckoning for you retarded "line go up" fags.

>> No.18843680

>>18843669
Congrats on your extra chromosomes bro.

>> No.18843692

>>18842425
lol faggot

>> No.18843706

>>18841610
I plan on it soon as the market crashes so I can buy cheap. Which leaf stocks do you own? I got my eyes on TRP, CNQ, TCL.A, and PLZ.UN

>> No.18843709

>>18843673
wirecard potentially

>> No.18843716

>>18843673
Buy some Greek tanker stock, best fleets in the world.

>> No.18843719

Newfag retard here, if I place an order tomorrow at 6am on Robinhood, can the sale price change and would I be charged for the increase?

>> No.18843734

>>18843669
>he's an idiot that told people to drink bleach and fish tank cleaner
Bait or just as retarded as the /ptg/ shills.

>> No.18843738

What the fuck is with the reddit invasion? /smg/ has never respected buffet, redditors GTFO

>> No.18843744

>>18843719
what?

>> No.18843745

>>18843719
Look up market order and limit order.

>> No.18843751

>>18843719
Look up limit price and stops.

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>>18843675
damn

>> No.18843763

>>18843719
If it's a market order, yes

They won't fill the order if you don't have enough cash in the account to make the purchase though

>> No.18843764

>>18843719
Look up goatse and inflation

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>>18843745
>>18843751
Yes but which one do I choose.

>> No.18843769

>>18843738
buffet is to /smg as elon is to reddit

mothafucka, hes number one and smart as hell

>> No.18843794

>>18843501
>airlines
Imagine investing in a rapidly dying industry. Once carbon taxes are implemented ordinary people will never fly again.

>> No.18843799

>>18843669
You need to go back

>> No.18843811

I'm just glad I bought some TVIX on Friday and decided to hold over the weekend. However I do regret buying so much NAIL.

>> No.18843816

>>18843680
>>18843734
>>18843799
>noo you can't insult based daddy just because he said that injecting disinfectant cures covid

>> No.18843834

>>18843766
https://www.investopedia.com/

>> No.18843842

Is natural gas gonna make it bros?

>> No.18843845

>>18843706
My best performing stocks are PPL and Canadian Tire but I bought those weeks ago. I bought Canadian Tire when it was around 82 bucks a share.

>> No.18843857

>>18843842
>he held ET
hahahaha

if you arent 100% cash right now you're going to be in a lot of pain come open

>> No.18843862

>>18843857
I have OKE.

>> No.18843864

>>18843482
As long as you don’t baghold you should be fine. But you can say goodbye to about 20% of your money

>> No.18843870

>>18843857
>100% cash
>not 10x leveraged with margin into short positions
like a little babby

>> No.18843872

>>18843460
>I feel like amzn and netflx shitting themselves was a reality call to most here.
Wrong. The smart people have been bearish the whole time. The very smart people went long until early last week. And big tech has a long ways to drop still. Friday was only part 1 of the bart movement.

>> No.18843877

>>18843816
Oh Timmy, you drooled all over yourself again :(

>> No.18843882

>>18843862
even worse because its less diversified in its holdings

>> No.18843883

>>18843834
Answer this, if I buy during extended hours, do I buy the stock depicted on the price or no?

>> No.18843884

>>18843673
Lufthansa

>> No.18843908

>>18843883
Extended hours are just like normal trading except less volume

>> No.18843910

>>18843842
Seriously thinking about selling for now and buying in later.

>> No.18843914

>>18843884
there is a lot of pain in Euro airlines, even more than American.

Ryanair is fucked beyond help for example.

>> No.18843916

>>18843872
I see Sp500 easily dropping down to 2650 - then the next the fight of bears and bulls is going into the 2nd round.

>> No.18843924

Airlines aren't an accurate representation of the entire economy, which is still strong, I'd expect prices to rise this week.

>> No.18843932

>>18843673
Deutsche Bank

>> No.18843934

>>18843908
Ah I see. Ok

>> No.18843937

>>18843884
Not touching Lufthansa with 100yards pole. This shit is going straight to bankruptcy.

>> No.18843939

>>18843924
The stock market isn't an accurate representation of the economy either, retard.

>> No.18843950

>>18843910
>>18843882
>>18843857
Its weird because its the only position I'm up in got in at 23 and don't know if it would go lower. I also have RTX and 1500. Logically we should be dipping harder but knowing jerome and Trump I dont honestly know what to do. Is it worth it to long stuff in this market?

>> No.18843956

>>18843924
>Tripfag Baggie the biggest /smg/ troll

>> No.18843962

>>18843950
sell. it. all

literally as soon as you can

>> No.18843970

>>18843924
>I'd expect prices to rise this week.
Based TSX is more sensitive to oil prices because Canada is third world. I think we only have Shopify and Air Canada to worry about and I don't own those stocks.

>> No.18843971

>>18843675
Or he may be very old and lost touch with brave new modern world

>> No.18843980

>>18841550
Gonna long Unilever lads

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>>18843675
>This is not about reopening countries
And what will be your new story after countries reopen and stocks start rising to new highs?

>> No.18844013

Anyone here holding NM?

Seems super cheap and they had good earnings.

>> No.18844017

>>18843932
>Deutsche Bank
care to elaborate ?

>> No.18844021

>>18843971
Yeah makes sense. You have convinced me with your flawless argument.

>> No.18844027

>>18843962
Show us your yolo puts wsb poster.

>> No.18844034

>>18844005
if that was going to happen, buffet would have bought

hes not

we goin great depression 2

>> No.18844040

>>18843673
Intesa Sanpaolo

This is autist tier risk, up there with deutsche bank. Some banks will go tits up when creditors default later this year, if they do survive, youre looking at a tremendous divvy yield.
Proceed at your own risk.

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>>18843924

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>>18844034
Yes great depression like the one that followed the 2007-2009 subprime mortgage boogaloo.

>> No.18844053

>>18844017
They'll get a bailout for sure, and they are currently deep in shit with enormous shit positions.

Dont buy into just yet, they'll get fucked in the ass that anon is stupid.

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>> No.18844075

>>18844005
Why do I need a new story? My old one hasn't changed yet. Stock market always comes back to reality, and sorry that you are 100% long already.

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>>18843675
wb used to have good track record, not anymore. he's been losing to sp500 consistently. and he
didnt buy the dip so ofcourse he is mourning that fed should not help markets. he is losing his touch this is not some 60's market anymore where things are eeezz

>> No.18844094

I'm holding lots of cash, took profits last week, any other steps to take?

>> No.18844103

France is lifting quarantine for all arrivals from the eu/schengen/uk
long lufthasa

>> No.18844118

>>18843937
Lufthansa will be bailed, they straight up nationalize it before it goes bankrupt
Lufthansa with his elegant condor is a brand of national pride for German boomers, and the service is really good
At the moment they talk about buying up 25% of shares and giving them additional billions if i remember right

>> No.18844120

it's going to be a WWL shaped depression. the good thing is that china will collapse.

>> No.18844126

>>18842728
Good choices, thumbs up

>> No.18844142

>>18844120
>China will collapse
What happens to their nukes?

>> No.18844144

>>18844072
hello based department?

>> No.18844145

AAAAAAHHHHHHHH SHOULD I SELL ALL MY STOCKS AND OPTIONS AT OPEN!?

>> No.18844150

>>18844005
Pretty much all the medfags are preparing for the second wave that's going to happen a couple weeks into reopening. Bouncing the curve is probably the worst possible strategy because it causes the local incubation and sudden wide dispersal of the most infectious variants, as well as the promotion of additional serotypes. We should either stay closed for an additional 3-5 months, or open everything at once and hodl even when shit gets real. You watch though, we're going to do this whole opening song and dance a few times, panic closing each time when the death rate spikes. That's not only bad for public health, it's bad for the market because it will breed fear and volatility.

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>>18844075
Sorry you're already bankrupt on bad puts and not selling your SQQQ bags, wsb r*dditor.

>> No.18844157

>>18844145
YES

>> No.18844159

>>18844142
under new ownership of the ROC.

>> No.18844164

>>18844145
Yes. Us bears need food. Market sell EVERYTHING

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>>18844150
>muh airborne aids
It killed 7 people between the ages of 0 and 39 in Ontario, a province of 14 million people.

>> No.18844178

>>18843882
Is it really less diversified? they have pipelines, refiners and other production plants.

>> No.18844180

>>18844145
Let's make one thing clear:
1)Airlines will dump

No need to sell everything like a retard...The Fed will step in if things get crazy.

>> No.18844197

>>18844174
it was created to mask the real problem

>> No.18844207

>>18844174
The average age of corona deaths in Italy is around 80 lol.

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>>18843675
>>18844092
>he's been losing to sp500 consistently
you mean Berkshire's valuation has been losing to the SP500

He was mocked constantly for missing out on this bull run and stashing cash for something exactly like this. Berkshire runs many businesses and he wants to have the capital to make sure they see this thing through.

Berkshire is more than a collection of stocks, it's a collection of businesses. Reminiscent of buffett's advice not to think of stocks as just another object to trade, but as pieces of businesses.

>Buffett clearly warned about the FED purchases and hinted at the balance sheets
he hinted at the same thing El-erian has been, that we're in dangerous and uncharted territory, and that the fed may be creating new hazards if it isn't careful. The hope is that they'll go back to letting businesses fail gradually, and they'll draw things out so everything doesn't hit at once and drive the world into a new dark age.

>>18843956
now you're learning

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>>18844197
>the real problem
Yes, the coming video game industry crash.

>> No.18844239

>>18844178
but its all the same thing, natural gas which will be slow as hell

>> No.18844242

>>18844120
/r/ing a shoop of "I'm never gonna financially recovery from this" with Xinny the Pooh as the Tiger King.

>> No.18844251

>>18844207
Italy Greece and Spain will open borders around July, should I short some tourist stuff?

>> No.18844254

>>18842019
get out of this thread u indonigger

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i STRONGLY recommend the doomer retards and anyone else who wants to hear an intelligent and counter-mainstream argument to check out based Mike Wilson's latest piece:

https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/thoughts-on-the-market-wilson


>>18844236
FUCK the roundeye's for this
fucked up my SNE, it's gonna crash.

>> No.18844260

>>18844180
No. They won't.

>> No.18844263

>>18844174
Oh Jesus Christ you fucking retard. It was worrisome because of the velocity of transmission, not how fucking deadly it was. The killer narrative was perpetuated by the press, the reason for the shutdowns is because the R0 is high, exponential rates of infection spiking the need for medical attention driving normal patient influx to the wayside and necessitating triage meaning it kills even more people. Comprendo? It's to prevent hysterical overrunning of limited medical resources, not because it's super deadly.

>> No.18844278

>>18844236
In all seriousness though, how is gen 9 not going to be gen 7 2: electric boogaloo? I have not heard a single bit of hype surrounding it whatsoever and the Switch already blew its load so there's no Nintendo unicorn to come out of nowhere to save the day.

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>>18844263
So what are you trying to sell with your bullshit? SQQQ? Islamic Communism?

>> No.18844293

>>18844180
What will the fed do exactly? Set interest rates to zero?

The problem is money doesn’t have velocity anymore. The fed cant solve that.

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>>18844282
You finna catch these hand lil nigga.

>> No.18844303

>>18844263
Thank you!

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>>18844278
>there's no Nintendo unicorn to come out of nowhere
oh ho ho
what makes you say that?

>> No.18844308

>>18844297
Poo in the loo.

>> No.18844311

>>18844293
The fed now buys stock mate. 40bln a day is what the rumours say.

>> No.18844327

>>18844174
See: >>18844263
And also
https://www.today.com/health/coronavirus-long-term-health-covid-19-impact-lungs-heart-kidneys-t178770

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>>18844327
How many more months of the literal nothing burger will it take before you people move onto some other paranoid schizophrenic delusion?

>> No.18844351

>>18844311
>Rumors

The fed cannot legally buy stocks

>> No.18844358

>>18844311
>rumors
fiction
>>18844293
the fed has put a backstop in to prevent bankruptcies, enabling companies to gorge on fresh debt, meaning additional liquidity.

One thought: If we get something like the last selloff, you think those companies flush with cash aren't going to step in and buy stocks in a crash like we just saw? They're going to jump at the chance. If they're not at risk of bankruptcy, it's their duty as stewards of capital to take advantage of such opportunities.

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Bros... i think we misses a hell of a short squeeze.

Has anyone found anything about this?

>> No.18844424

I'm considering buying an apartment. I have 6 years of medicine left so I know I won't be moving. Rent is super expensive and I'll always be stuck with loud and annoying housemates. On the other hand, I will miss out on all the sweet S&P gains for the next 6 years. What do frens?

>> No.18844458

>>18842189
I'm just starting with investing and I was looking to start with tankers and bulkers. Got any tips? The names you are mentioning were the ones I was looking at (although Navios and Costamere also came up in research).

>> No.18844460

>>18844351
He's a retard but they could easily sidestep it with Blackstone.

>> No.18844464

>>18842844
Imma excise ur market share

>> No.18844469

>>18844358
More debt doesn’t solve the problem. Consumer spending solves the problem. More debt postpones bankruptcy.

>> No.18844473

>>18844424

appartment 100%, how is this even a question?

>> No.18844481

>>18844424
Wait. Housing may very well crash with consumer confidence as it is and there's already some pressure on it now as multi-generational households are becoming more popular according to some press narratives being pushed over the last couple years. There's a lot of forces that are going to into action on the housing market right now, I'd just hold for now before you end up in a fucked up mess.

>> No.18844484

>>18844311
>source: dude, trust me
Or, you can look at their balance sheets and see that they haven't yet dipped their toe into junk bond ETF purchases. Plus, they would need Congressional approval to move into equity purchasing. Aside from that, they've been tapering purchases since March. The $40BB in daily purchases was with respect to all purchases, and not equities.

>>18844358
That capital is there to maintain operations and hedge against downturns that extend beyond the immediate market environment. It would be highly risky to buy equities with said capital, and I would be surprised if there weren't restrictions on its usage (fiscal stimulus side, at least). The downside risk of wiping out those investments and requiring additional backstopping by the Fed or additional fiscal stimulus remains large due to the economic uncertainty going forward. Can you imagine what the public fallout would be if companies that were propped up once need to be propped up yet again?

>> No.18844494

>>18844351
They've already been doing it indirectly by shoveling free money into institutional investors, who use that free money to buy equities.

>> No.18844515

>>18844484
That's a good point
>Can you imagine what the public fallout would be if companies that were propped up once need to be propped up yet again?
But many of them didn't many took out fresh debt from the public markets. This happened because the markets knew the fed WOULD be there to prop them up, but it didn't actually need to. See: boeing. I think carnival as well. I know several of my companies have as well. Eli Lilly and Regeneron just took out debt.

>> No.18844525

>>18843716
Would you recommend nmm and cmre? Or are there better greek choices?

>> No.18844536

What are futures looking like?

>> No.18844546

>>18844515
oops not sure about regeneron, I meant lam research

>> No.18844558

>>18844395
yeah we missed shark week.

>> No.18844562

>>18844536
Bleak

>> No.18844576

>>18844562
I wish I'd sold on Wednesday

>> No.18844582

How early can you start premarket trading on TDA?

>> No.18844587

Weekend DOW is pointing to a bearish start to the week with a mildly negative open at -0.16%. Trade accordingly. I am personally loading up on SQQQ on Monday.

https://www.ig.com/en/indices/markets-indices/weekend-wall-street

>> No.18844601

>>18844469
What you really mean to say is that consumer SAVINGS solve the problem. Because healthy consumer spending comes from savings, not debt

>> No.18844655

What I'm worried about long term (5-30 years) is that we're not learning our lesson with debt like we should be. I'd rather it fuck us now than triple fuck us later.

>> No.18844672

>>18844587
Why SQQQ and not short SP500 or DoW

>> No.18844677

>>18844515
Yeah, CCL did as well. And yes, there were companies that avoided falling back on stimulus measures, either intentionally (Boeing) or otherwise. That doesn't negate the unprecedented extent to which the Fed did have to backstop the economic plumbing and prevent a liquidity crisis, in addition to fiscal stimulus from Congress. It was the only move, "right" or not, and going hard and fast was necessary.

That said, I personally can't imagine that happening to the same extent going forward without some serious questions being asked, though I know the greed/expectations are there from the equities markets, in particular. Yes, the Fed did make the commitment to ensuring systemic failure of the underlying economic systems that allow for recovery out of the recession does not occur. On the other hand, if you watched their playbook, it was a series of escalations to that point, only providing additional measures as needed. They've done their job, as of now, and I don't think J. Powell will risk anymore future consequences other than what's absolutely needed at this point.

tl;dr: If markets tank, but there's no threat or existential threat to the broader economy that would prevent its recovery, the Fed will not care. I've said it before, but I continue to think that "don't fight the Fed" is going to bite people in the ass.

>> No.18844701

>>18844672
SQQQ outperforms SPXS and SDOW in bear markets.

>> No.18844705

>>18844700 new

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>>18844672
To be fair NDX's tech heavy basis is due for a correction, I think SQQQ is probably a pretty satisfactory position considering.

>> No.18844712

>>18844701
Based poster is correct.

>> No.18844728

>>18844655
They're saving the triple fuckings for when some pension fund cash is freed up after the boomers croak out

>> No.18844738

>>18844701
yeah but what about them smol cap etfs?

>> No.18844784

>>18844738
I'm already down 18% on TNA that I won last week.

>> No.18844821

>>18844728
this will not happen. every year there will be a lot of people reaching retirement.

>> No.18844881

>>18842264
price is how much the shares cost
earnings is how much the company makes
if the price is high and they don't earn much money, it's a high P/E
if the price is low and they earn lots of money, it's a low P/E

>> No.18845031

I'm more interested to see what happens with the European markets tomorrow seeing as they missed Friday's dump, do they have a futures market as well?

>> No.18845111

>>18845031
nah, they are still doing trading with paper