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you ARE buying airline stocks next week, right anon?

>> No.18817027

>that feel when I will never be able to have 11
>polo shirts
Life isn't fair. Eleven polo shirts is only for the billionaires.

>> No.18817029

No Chad, I acutally like money.

>> No.18817041

I might buy Southwest or Air Canada because I think they might have some structural/regional advantages over other companies. I don't know much about Southwest though - need to investigate. Air Canada I have in the back of my mind but I'm not sure about a price target. It could get restructured and my equity would get wiped out.

>> No.18817042

>buying your bags

>> No.18817046

>size: medium

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its ok anon, i work in FinTech. its just business

side note tho, that's not even a quarter of my polo stash

>> No.18817065

Damn if you invested into lulu lemon back in 2007 you'd have almost 100X gains.

>> No.18817073

Whats everyone's thoughts on American Airlines? I bought in at its 52 week low and now these bastards lowered the target price to 1$.

>> No.18817086

You couldn’t pay me to hold that cancerous bag. Fuck Airline shills, Government takeovers incoming and bond holders will get fucked like GM part 2 electric bugaloo.

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Uber I’d say is more of a phenomenon of venture capital, im not sure exactly how much came from the saudis or the Japanese, but those aren’t necessarily due to the fed and US regulations like tarp.

And wasn’t February was the beginning of this in the us and Europe? When big tech and big finance started telling people to work from home and it became apparent that business was going to face a major disruption?

Holy shit

It’s all so exciting and new, this is some of the unexplored territory we have left in the world. There’s danger everywhere and there’s no clear path forward.

If we let all the “zombies” and other unprepared businesses go under, chaos. the shock of so many bankruptcies at once would cause many bankruptcies of otherwise decent companies. The small and medium caps are apparently where most of the zombies are. Let them go bust? The the large behemoths get an accelerated path towards domination. Imagine if the US were literally just the top 100 largest companies. Would every one of them be too big to fail?

>> No.18817113

there's one thing i love about Polo: Males will hate on you for wearing it but females know the "frat boy" style behind polo and when you're young (<30) and thats all you wear, girls love it

>> No.18817129

>Sold UVXY on Thursday
cool beans.
Is this when the market finally realizes it's fucked?

>> No.18817134

FUCK ME. I bought some yesterday, assuming you typo'd and meant $10 but just saw that shit when I checked, now the average target price is only $15

>> No.18817140

it's kind of just Dad clothing. I wear polo because it's what my parents bought me and I don't like wasting money on new shit.

>> No.18817141

Polos are the first upgrade in maturity guys make from graphic T-shirts. Once you start wearing button downs casually you will get even more positive reactions from women

>> No.18817142


Alright boys, the fiance got a surprise settlement for 16k, ive got about 10k in cash. Should I wait to buy more stonks and if not which stonks do you guys like for a long term investment?

Ive already got 17k in a portfolio and im looking for somemore input on some potentially great buys that ive overlooked.

>> No.18817146

You dumb. Really dumb.

>> No.18817147

What you think bro we holding on or we try to stop limit and buy back at a lower price.

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nice OP digits, very bullish

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>> No.18817157
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Does someone use eToro?
Which deposit funds option is the cheapest:

Bank card
Wire Transfer

>> No.18817166

>Big boys selling you their worthless shit
>Going to be restructured and stock goes to zero

>> No.18817183

>Government takeovers incoming and bond holders will get fucked like GM part 2 electric bugaloo.
That’s the opposite of what happened.

The stockholders got fucked and their shares became literally worthless, the bondholders got preferred shares in the new company.

How did you get that backwards? It’s the whole point of the story. Go watch the Rudy video again and stay in retard jail until you do.

>> No.18817203

>And wasn’t February was the beginning of this in the us and Europe?
My 13% number is from March of LAST year (https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/31/investing/stocks-week-ahead-zombie-companies-debt/index.html). There is no reason to suspect it is lower. The definition BofA uses is also quite strict.
>Uber I’d say is more of a phenomenon of venture capital, im not sure exactly how much came from the saudis or the Japanese, but those aren’t necessarily due to the fed and US regulations like tarp.
Uber is a summer child. Emerged really into an insane bull market for tech. And over 11 years it still never made money. It keeps (and has kept) needing to raise money to service its older debt. Much of their "reserves" now come from their ipo listing that was from may of just last year.
TARP has absolutely changed the rules of the game in the US. Sure the virus hit everyone hard but it's currently being used as cover for companies that were tanking before this even started for their shitty performance in this and quarters up through the next year.

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I'm buying the best airline stock: RTX.

>> No.18817213

I've already lost 12% on them today, I'm going to have to hold I guess. Today was BAD for me. I had an excellent day Wednesday and continued holding and my profits over the past few months were basically halved

>> No.18817221

That's almost my scenario.

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Eat a bag of dicks, you don’t remember shit from 2008.

>> No.18817226

Really wouldn't mind getting into stocks buy at low and then sell when everything returns to normal.

Just don't know what sites to use.

>> No.18817227

Imagine working with computers for a living lmao

>> No.18817240

Don't, the spreads are fucking bleeding ass rape and the "expert" traders are simply used to funnel liquidity into retarded positions for bigwigs to take advantage of.

Either do your own research or sign up for the "Just fuck my shit up, I'm too lazy to have agency" trading platform.

PS etoro is the second one.

>> No.18817245

Explain to me why I shouldn’t short a substantial amount of AMC. Between them fighting with Hollywood and the fact that people now realize how nice it is to get movies direct to streaming, I’m thinking they go bankrupt within the year

>> No.18817252

Fuck dude its that easy?

Im gonna open a robinhood right now!

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Sick of these lying sacks of shits telling you to buy failed airline bags. Fuck off you dirty cunts.

>> No.18817274

Anyone holding a GM bond at that point probably made money, bonds like that aren't even available to normal investors unless they had diamond hands. Shareholders were the real losers, they got zero.

>> No.18817275

even in the best case for movie theaters, they'll have to sell fewer tickets so that everyone can sit two seats apart
airlines are going to have to do the same thing
very rough times ahead

>> No.18817286

The bobos are back it town!! Short everything to the ground!!

>> No.18817292

I bought some puts for June, but they are already 60% down. This stupid clown market where bankruptcy makes stocks go up.

>> No.18817303

imagine working for a living

>> No.18817320

You have to look like a pretentious faggot my dude
Why would anyone need more than 6 or 7 basic upper body clothing pieces?
>Why polo shirts, they are just like normal shirts in inconvenient

>> No.18817360

yeah don't use etoro as a real trader. there spreads are possibly the worst in the world. On top of that they fuck some users over when mergers and they don't even offer a large range of stocks.

However I use the virtual portfolio just for fun

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>Today I have been buying shares in DHT Holdings to pair with NAT, which is still the largest holding of my firm. To put it simply, DHT is the next NAT.


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>> No.18817515

I will shill for Fidelity. Excellent research tools.

>> No.18817539

> buying when shares are low
> not when Price/Book is low
> not when Price/Cash Flow is low
> not when Payout Ratio is high

>> No.18817552

What are we jamming out today boys

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>> No.18817587

Read the article and tell me what happened to the stock holders, then tell me who got fucked.

I have literally never told anyone to buy airline stock. I doubt I ever will, and I don’t think of them as good investments.

But Why the fuck would you say GM bondholders when you’re talking about airline stock? It doesn’t make any sense. No one said buy airline bonds, and GM stockholders had their investments go to zero, they lost everything.

Why did you mention bonds?

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My goal is constantly buying ETFs (diversificated by countries, currencies, industries, maybe a class of assets) for some salary savings monthly, rebalancing it once/twice per year and hold for like +10 years till retirement.

Actually I have no much choice, I'm non-US or EU citizen.
Prohibited for me: TD Ameritrade, Etrade, Robinhood, Degiro;
Charles Schwab because of $25k starting barrier;
Interactive brokers has an inactivity fee.

Etoro is one of which has no such fee.
There are also Exante (withdrawal fee 30 EUR) and Freedom Finance (with not very good service). So there I go.

In short I choose between those 3 brokers for rare buy and even more rare sell.

>> No.18817611

Anyone who BOUGHT GM bonds before the restructuring, when it looked like the company was going down and completely unsalvageable, they likely made bank.

That had to have been one of the absolutely riskiest investments around, unless you had confidence that the government would step in. I have to imagine the bondholders at the time we’re looking to get rid of that paper at any price.

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>> No.18817666

Are cartoonists so lacking in creativity these days they need to rip off mongolian knitting forum memes?

>> No.18817673

Wait just a little bit. Nobody knows how things will end up shaking out at the moment.

Buy TMDX. >>18817142

>> No.18817681

I hope y'all are ready for the bloodbath

>> No.18817692

How do you know the stealth phase starts in 2016? and not, say, 2013?

>> No.18817695

These retards see it linked on Facebook or whatever. 4chin has been a hugely important part of forming the youth culture indirectly for over a decade now yet we never get a shred of credit, such is life. That’s how it is supposed to he though, rules 1 and 2 and all that.

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Are you in debt?

>> No.18817721

I don’t understand how this isn’t bullish as fuck.

>> No.18817726

No :)

>> No.18817735

Priced in

>> No.18817740

Last time a good amount of US homeowners weren't able to pay denbts, we had a pretty bad recession


>> No.18817746


Seriously though who else is playing RIGL earnings this week??? Anticipating a huge move up to $4-5 or so- calls are cheap the moment

>> No.18817769

how do i short mortgages?

>> No.18817785
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>Schizophrenic Dad is telling me to sell all of my stock because he believes the American economy could go into free-fall
>Before this believed that the economy would disintegrate, and it is good to be in the 3rd world
>The only place where the economy could go into free-fall

I'm thinking to totally blot him out.
I think we're going to get rocky road and then clear steering, while my stock pumps it louder in the interim.

Does this sound like it to you?

>> No.18817809

that line just goes on back until 2009. i can't be bothered to edit it

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How do I invest in Boston Dynamics and capitalize on the inevitable shooting war to come this decade?

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I mean, he’s part right and part wrong. The world economy won’t collapse but its distinctly possible that we may have another leg down soon or start a multi-year bear market.

Idk man, I took profits recently. I’m staying cash for a bit because whenever my confidence is shook I end up over trading or making dumb decisions.

>> No.18817880

I don't really believe that this Coronavirus is unique either. It sounds like SARS/H1N1

I think, historically, the worst is over. Maybe a retest of the low at worst, but that's doubtful in my eyes.

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>> No.18817895


This has been going on for 100+ years

>> No.18817909

need to watch china's "resurgent" wuflu situation. the job losses in the west seem priced in, but china closing again i dont think is

>> No.18817928

That's something I couldn't think to watch.

>> No.18817956

>I am told the Fed has not actually bought any Corporate Bonds via the shell company set up to circumvent the restrictions of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. Must be the most effective jawboning success in Fed history if that is true.

Hahaha....the stock market is literally riding in hopium alone. The FED hasn't even done BRRRRRR, yet....big joke how everyone is getting scammed.

We will retest very low.

>> No.18817988

Get CERS on your watchlist. Blood transfusions from recovered Covid-19 patients being used as a treatment. They have also been doing in demand blood services and are going to report good sales. This company is just getting into the public eye.

>> No.18818044

Absolutely based Fed, propping up the failing economy without even trying

>> No.18818066

Graph looks like ass you scamming shill

>> No.18818067

Their authors are changing their opinion and their market predictions in a daily basis. But whatever makes you happy.

They worst can't be over when you have the threat of second / third waves. Closed small business, which will lead to mass unemployment rate.
Big companies laying off people in big amounts, on too of hiring stop, which will lead to mass unemployment rate.

And do you know what mass unemployment rate will lead to? Most midwestern countries wont even recover from that in decades.

Stock market is manipulated as fuck anyway, but one thing is certain... Economy is done and fucked, consumer confidence wont magically increase in any time

>> No.18818068

Comparing stock market of 100 years go and a different type of disease are just fucking pointless and dumb.

30 million unemployed is NOT fucking priced in.

You people are insane. The depression is just starting.

>> No.18818084

Expect another sell off, when this news spreads more to non retail investors...

>> No.18818096


These flickers definitely have an incentive to be bullish but I tend to agree with their thinking that oil production Is going to outstrip demand and you still are going to need to ship it.

>> No.18818108

I'm talking about the company, not the chart. It is a good coronavirus treatment in phase 3. They are pretty volatile the last few days but they another coronastock to add to the list.

>> No.18818111

Market may not be able to stay propped up for much longer. I have 1500 in puts, but will likely add 5k more next week. If I lose it all then w/e

>> No.18818121

Tankers have literally never been more profitable. They might even pay a special dividend this year.

>> No.18818129

The amount of stimulus used previously could have raised the floor for a lot of stocks. The drop may be decreased because of fairly massive stimulus from last month.

>> No.18818131

they spent the last 3 years prepping for a recession.
>not priced in
no wonder youre poor

>> No.18818180

the point is that the Fed doesn't need to purchase assets to keep things together, they just need to signal that they are willing to do so , which has given banks and other institutions the confidence to invest. (as opposed to what happened in 2008...)
just because they haven't fully utilized their purchasing desks doesn't mean that they won't

>> No.18818199

It's all priced in anon

>> No.18818200

Signaling is fine for a certain time, but if you don't realize what you have promized in due time, non retail investors will sell off their shit again because it is way too risky to holt junk corporate bonds if FED isn't even buying shit up.

>> No.18818248

>preparing for a recession
You are dumb. Companies have never been more leveraged. Nobody learned from 2008, its all pure greed. This is the greatest unemployment in US history. Basically youre retarded. Dilate.

>> No.18818263

Can you explain me who the fuck is ready for a recession? Lmao, except google with their billions in cash reserves.

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this is literally why the mother of all crashes is coming our way

>> No.18818573

don't forget the RTX spammer(s)

>> No.18818581

More people make pump and dumps easier
Jump on the train old man and don't get left behind
It's time to scam others out of their money

>> No.18818583

People are buying the dip, dummy.

>> No.18818587

our economy will go into freefall, its just a matter of when. you can only kick the can down the road so long. whether i happens next year, 5 years from now, or 20 years from now is anyones guess. but eventually you cant print enough money out of thin air to prop everything up. and our expenses only get worse as we move towards a more welfare euro-socialism state, aging population, costs of military for inevitable conflicts and wars. you know im right mothefucker

>> No.18818600

We already peaked, people will baghold for years or more likely...will sell at a loss and never come back to the stock market again.

Too late.

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>It's time to scam others out of their money

>> No.18818633

Not sure why I have to say this but corporate debt and debt rollovers are perfectly fine and literally business 101. They seem overleveraged to you because you didnt adjust for inflation for 12 years

>> No.18818649

Tell him that if he seriously thinks that's what's going to happen he needs to stop whatever he's doing, quit his job, and either join a militia or start learning Chinese.

>> No.18818661

They said the same thing a couple of weeks ago, then SPY opened at like $20+ lmao. Bobos are going to get wrecked by jerome once again

>> No.18818685

Powell is doing literally nothing, this is a classic bear rally based on hopium alone. Sorry to tell you, but you haven't bought the dip and neither did Peter and Susi.

>> No.18818686

you think the worst is over? when 20% of the economy was literally rendered void? do you see bars, nightclubs, and restaurants surviving another year+ of zero profits? travel and leisure literally destroyed. multiple outbreaks will sporadically cause shutdowns in different communities as time goes by causing return to lockdowns. there is no vaccine coming. the virus wont go away until herd immunity is reached and 60-70% of population becomes infected and immune. the isolation and lockdown procedures only prolong it. this isnt even taking mutations and different strains reemerging seasonally into account. we are fucked long term bro

and businesses surviving 1 or 2 months of lockdown with government aid is one thing. prolonged lack of consumer demand and distancing requirements? not a chance. you will see the massive collapse of entire sectors of industry. we havent even started talking about all the debt and credit defaults yet. lol this virus is nowhere near priced in yet, people are delusional. name one coronavirus vaccine created in the last 1,000 years. exactly

>> No.18818700

Completely understand that the economy is beyond rekt right now ... but to everyone here expecting the market to tank -- who has yet to sell? In order for the market to really tank there needs to be a massive sell off and I truly do not know who hasn't sold already that will be?

Market right now seems like degens / wall street / and Jerome all sitting around and jerking while everyone else just sits with their boomer stocks and 401ks.

>> No.18818706

>It sounds like SARS/H1N1
it literally is. same family of virus as SARS. nothing like H1N1, that is influenza, totally different type of virus. chinese have been trying to make a SARS vaccine since 2004. why do you think a covid19 vaccine will come out in a year? top kek at all the gullible NPCs watching MSM thinking everything will be fine once we get the vaccine. lmao news flash, not happening.

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If the battle is Jerome vs. a few bears I'm pretty sure we all know who will win. Trump will do everything in his power to assure that new highs are reached in the market before his re-election campaign.

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For future trolling

>> No.18818729

people who are total noobs and dont know shit about how the stock market works

>> No.18818748

Who? As every bear market rally, fear will be the reason.

>Business and consumer confidence wont go up
>mortgages are not looking great right, could lead to a mortgage crisis
>unemployment will stay high resulting in classical economical recession.
>401ks will get liquidated due to fear and cash need
>all the retards who "bought" the dip, will sell after they see their portfolio shrink with each day.

This is nothing special and you don't need a pandemic or a ww for a sell off. Just wait and enjoy the party.

>> No.18818756

this, the hard part is trying to time it to make money

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So many fuckin people in this thread seem to think that the stock market and the US "economy" are the same thing.

Anyone else bought Apple end of market here? Their services are really taking off, rumor is early SE sales are doing well...feeling good.

>> No.18818779

Almost got AAL for 9,80 the other day but the price just didn't break my buy line. +20% the next tuesday. I think that was the window though. No good news anytime soon I'm afraid.

>> No.18818781

"the market" is a bunch of retarded NPCs
they're always wrong

>> No.18818787

Stock market always comes back to reality.

Implying the opposite is beyond retarded.

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Did you panic sell in March?

>> No.18818796

I'm going to go all in on Microsoft soon. With them being basically permanently contracted to every level of government, from middle of nowhere dog catcher to PotUS and every agency in between, they're one of the few if not only tech company I'd label underpriced.

>> No.18818800

This nigger is in a shop

>> No.18818812

Depends on what industry you put your eggs in.

Also diversify, both industry sectors and countries they reside in.

>> No.18818822

People like you think that money just disappeared. Yes some businesses will die, but others will flourish, especially considering that big corps will absorve the market the small companies, who couldn't cope, left behind.

Welcome to a new age of technology corporations.

>> No.18818833

This just shows that the average /biz/ user has no idea.

>Small businesses are an anchor of the US economy.
>48 percent of all US employees work for small businesses,

Who gives a fuck about 48% of the workforce. Big corps will surely hire them all. :)

>> No.18818835

OOOOOOH. Holding that shit for a while now.
I am going to watch their earnings press conference as well on the 5th.

>> No.18818839

Investors hate uncertainty. We are in the middle of a global pandemic. Chinks are fully responsible for the pandemic. There will be a global response. There will be economic fall out. This will hit the stock markets.

>> No.18818847

yeah and how are those "absorbed" failed businesses going to bring in money? the premise is the same, there will be no consumer base to prop them up

>> No.18818848

What mutations you idiot, this virus is a slow ass mutator. And yes, there are vaccines coming you fearmonger lmao.

Who cares if businesses die, you assume like nothing will come to replace it.

Adapt or die, literally what we have been doing for millenia.

>> No.18818852

i could see a worldwide coalition forming against china and a return of nativism to bring manufacturing out of china back to the west, or at least to less chinky commie countries

>> No.18818857

This is why I got ET

>> No.18818858

Holy shit look at this retard. Banks create money via loans. When dept is paid back or defaulted upon effectively money (asset and liability) is destroyed. This is going to be a deflationary recession that leads to a decade of stagflation

>> No.18818859

Don't time it. Just buy and wait 20 years.

Also, don't invest in airlines lmao, unless you truly believe in 2-5 years they will be back to normal, then by all means pick your winner.

>> No.18818872

Where do you see that vaccines coming?


Still waiting, just few more weeks, right?


Even after years, there is no vaccine for SARS or Mers. This time will be surely different? Right? Based on what are you taking your optimism? Just hope?

>Who cares if businesses die, you assume like nothing will come to replace it.

Ok jesus, I should have read to your second line, you are beyond retarded.

>> No.18818889

>priced in
dalio did fine for one same as most of the private hedges.
im not going to help you research you dumb fuck.

if youre this dumb youre destined to be poor

taxis drivers have been talking about the recession for years..

you know the old saying right?

>> No.18818890

theres like 5 confirmed different strains already you idiot. we can already trace the source of infection on both the east and west coasts from the chinese wuhan strain and the mutated europe strain. and yeah its still a shock dude. of course businesses will adapt. i didnt say its the end of america. but after the meteor wiped out the dinosaurs it took a fucking century for the dust to settle. you arent going to see our economy go back to normal growth overnight, within days, weeks, months or probably years. i think we are either at the tipping point or just before or past it. but if we dont change course now there will be lasting damage for years. the best thing to do right now for the economy is probably to just let the virus spread its course and hope reinfection is not possible once you have antibodies. if science cna confirm that, we will have a much faster return to normal.

>> No.18818893


Keep holding them bags son.

>> No.18818895


A lot of Chinese manufacturing is moving to Vietnam which unlike China is a literal socialist chink country lmfao -- small commie counrties handled coronachan like pros desu

>> No.18818898

airlines will end up relying on national subsidies to stay "in business". they will unironically become government owned utilities.

>> No.18818900

do you all not understand risk management?

investing isn't a fucking casino you fucking monkeys

you either know what youre doing or youre failing. thats why most people lose money, no concept of risk mitigation

>> No.18818917

You’ve posted that here before, reddit-san

>> No.18818923


80% of Bizraeli's aren't investing, they're playing the market which is absolutely a fuckin casino my man

>> No.18818925

yo at least other people are starting to get it. i dont think this realization has become mainstream yet so we still have time to beat the market i jsut dont know what to do for the best gains from a drop. long shorts? vxx calls? just not sure. the dip down could happen gradually or overnight. i dont think we will see a 30% overnight drop like we did in march, i think it will be more like weekly dumps of 2-3% for a while with slight rebounds inbetween

>> No.18818963

trading ≠ investing

>> No.18818967

Best mobile app to track my portfolio?

>> No.18818968

people arent going to forget the chink threats to withhold antibiotics and diabetes medicines. we are going to bring back essential manufacturing im sure of it

do you know where you are? barely anyone here has the money and luxury to "invest". everyone here is a poorfag-middleclass range trying to make a pile big enough to stop wagecucking and so they can properly "invest" and live off the dividends and growth of the market. if you want to interact with investors go golfing at countryclubs and chat with the CEOs of the big 500

>> No.18818974

How can you safely invest with this much volatility and uncertainty? A simple tweet from a business or world leader can crash the market.

>> No.18818977
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only country in the world that actually matters right now.

>> No.18818981

I got 6 grand in SH etf

>> No.18818989

>deaths and not new cases and testing per capita
why do you retards keep posting this shit

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build a war chest and wait a few months, it's not hard - seriously, it's not

>> No.18819001

>30 million unemployed is NOT fucking priced in.

It's already priced in.

>> No.18819003

you don't get it. whatever.

>> No.18819020

that isnt an argument that justifies shit financial management.
>im desperate to make it
you either manage it well and succeed or youre just volitility volume for the makers

FA Cant lie, TA is nothing but lies.
Research and hedging bets with a consistant and low return at a rapid rate.

diverse portfolios in un-related industries, short against volitility where possible.

I cant give you tips because that defeats the point.

Plenty of insiders and senators to follow with public info

>> No.18819022

>hurr durr
ok fuck off retard that doesn’t understand what a trailing indicator is

>> No.18819034

I think some survery showed that 75% of swedes want their government to enact harsher restrictions, so it's likely that many do not live as normally as proclaimed. Also they dont test post mortem and neglect carehomes. Check and compare with brazil for a similar do-nothing atittude to the virus.
also it's still 10-20x what their neighbouring countries has.
We should look for comparisons of deaths in sweden this spring and previous years for a more accurate measurement i think. Many other european countries have shown a larger increase than what the measured covied19 deaths would entail.

but even still, i likely agee with you that it's overhyped.

>> No.18819045

>depression is just starting.

>> No.18819048

>finally a red day
>couldn't trade options because yurop closed shop for Labor Day

>> No.18819054

>They worst can't be over when you have the threat of second / third waves

Priced in

>Big companies laying off people in big amounts, on too of hiring stop, which will lead to mass unemployment rate.

Priced in

>our economy will go into freefall

Also priced in

>> No.18819067


The depression will be nearly shut out of the news except by sensationalist news outlets like CNN which will further drive divisiveness. Deaths will become underreported even moreso in the next six months. Trump and Jerome will bring the market back to all time highs.

Folks will die, Bezos will fuck his girlfriend and have a half closed eye and make mega fuckin cash, and you will sit around holding SPY puts thinking the US will magically "wake up" to what has happened. This country runs on greed and speculation my man. This is a better time than ever to invite you to become a bull with the rest of us.

An employee of a large consulting agency that personally manages the COVID response for multiple large American monopolies.

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you have two weeks to get out of the current market
/pmg/ is your best option
this is all i can say for now

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>we already peaked
We're in a slump, dummy

>> No.18819086

>the depression
Coronachan will die by june. No depression

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What happened?

>> No.18819093

Love how americans can always be identified from a mile away based on how they dress at all our company gatherings. Italians and Japanese rock some great suits that are perfectly tailored, you guys wear pants arguably a size too big and big floppy shirts with more than three colors and stripes.
Not saying it looks bad - just an observation of how people dress differently at work around the world

>> No.18819098

>coronachan will be done by easter
keep predicting things you have no background in understanding

>> No.18819113

They already are, moving them to india.

Maybe the india superpower by 2020 wasn't a meme after all lmao.

>> No.18819126

it shows a more accurate representation of the most important fact of the impact which is how many people is it killing.

posting new cases and testing per capita isnt anywhere as accurate because lots of tests are shitty and not accurate and lots of people arent being tested or even knowing they are infected. but when someone dies of coronavirus its essentially showing the same thing. you hae to look at the rate of deaths not the actual numbers. if the rates are declining that shows the virus is declining

>> No.18819131

kids these day.
i swear..

>> No.18819139


I need to unite both the doomers and the bulls. Yes this virus is fucked up and going to kill a shit ton of people and be a horrible event that changes our way of life. But no, that doesn't mean shit with our current savant grifter president and the incredible powers of Jerome. Don't hold your SPY puts and shit the bed because the end of the world is coming, the end of the world will not be televised. Make some coins with the rest of us and ride Trump's market manipulation and sell the fuck out of everything during the second wave of coronachan in the fall.

>> No.18819140


There's THOUSANDS of confirmed mutations, that does not mean the virus will become "unvaccinable" or that will be stronger or weaker.

>> No.18819145

>oh yeah raytheon is the fucking shit right now, war incoming guise
>62 is the bottom
fuck all of you niggers

>> No.18819147

its priced in on the premise they are going back to work after the lockdown ends in May. sorry its not going to happen, the more this lockdown drags on the more those jobs dispappear for good. plus the psychological impacts on consumers that will stop them

>> No.18819157

A fantastic case study for sure. They should keep plowing it, if not for the fantastic comparisons post-coronas.

I think they will have good results if they keep this approach. It will kill all the old leeches, economy will keep moving and they will reduce the virus to some strong but short waves.

>> No.18819160

The PEAK was Easter
We've been on a downward trend ever since.
Texas is starting to reopen next week and Michigan might revolt if their faggot governor doesn't let them go back to work.
It's over, happoomer.

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>ahhhh that sweet weekend coffee sipping

Feels good man, where my /coffeegang/ at?

>> No.18819185

>I cant give you tips because that defeats the point.
LOL post your profits buffett

>> No.18819199

america 50k
india 1.6k

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>> No.18819215

>fuck all of you niggers
It was one raging tranny.
>massive faggot shills his shitty stock pick 24/7
>anons buy
>stock crashes
Many such cases but no one buys actually good picks that aren't shilled quite as often here.
>muh shills out
The irony

>> No.18819219

the point is the deaths are going to be the same no matter what and sweden is doing the smart thing by ripping the bandaid off quickly so their economy doesnt take a maximum dive down the shitter. yes their economy will be impacted but its not going to implode the way ours is if we dont start openign shit up

>> No.18819232

i can get a newer one if you want?

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India is based desu and I hope they get investment and jobs that get pulled from China.

Hopefully though they are treated better than the Chinese in terms of employment benefits. Chinese though, are more than happy to work 18 hour days with one day of (unpaid) leave per month, because they think it's beta not to. Seriously the most deluded of the wagecuck world. At least the Japanese wagecucks get paid well and live in a rich country

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I am up 130% in April but I still am financially ruined.

>> No.18819247

India doesn't have the testing capacity of the US.n

>> No.18819263

>believing currynigger numbers
They wipe with their hands, dude. It's higher than that.

>> No.18819270

global Deaths 239K
US 50k
US has shit testing btw compared to the first world

>> No.18819271

>An employee of a large consulting agency that personally manages the COVID response for multiple large American monopolies.
if you say some retardedly useless braindead company like deloitte you have zero credibility

>> No.18819280

it makes it easier to conceal our handguns, unironically

>> No.18819281

194 other countries anon..

>> No.18819284

>WHO numbers
China lied people died

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Why does investing outside the US make no money?

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>> No.18819301

1. US is the third most populated nation on Earth.
2. China is still concealing their real statistics.

>> No.18819307

>that does not mean the virus will become "unvaccinable"

hey you literal retard, show me one vaccine for any strain, variation, or mutation of any virus in the coronavirus family

>that will be stronger or weaker.
its literally already proven the wuhan strain is stronger and the europe strain is weaker. you obviously arent reading news or keeping up with the facts so why are you insisting on arguing bullshit

>> No.18819316

I tried a SPY $283 call and a $282 put. Literally the only way I lose money is if it stays exactly between $282 and $283, which of course it did.

>> No.18819323

Probably because you live in a socialist shithole with no real economy and an overbearing nanny state that suppresses business and spends most of its tax money on gibs.

>> No.18819341

US 62k from the CDC

>> No.18819351

Never thought of it that way, considering what is sometimes unpleasantly visible when our spanish colleagues are on stage, I get that you couldnt even hide a toothpick in their suits...

>> No.18819352

90% of the Swedish economy is trade.

>> No.18819355

hows that stimulus package you filthy socialist?

>> No.18819362

Tiny compared to the 100k-200k deaths still hasn't reported.
China lied people died.

>> No.18819370

I'm an Essential Worker(tm) so I'm actually still selling my labor during this shitty mass hysteria.

>> No.18819381


There could be as many as 30 different strains of coronavirus, a study of patients in China has claimed.

Zhejiang University scientists studied a small number of patients with the disease and uncovered tens of mutations - 19 of which had never been seen before.

Some mutations boosted the virus' ability to invade cells in the body, others helped the disease multiply more rapidly.

The most deadly strains were genetically similar to the ones that spread in Europe and in New York, reported the South China Morning Post.

Meanwhile, the weaker strains were similar to those found circulating within other parts of the US, such as Washington State.

>> No.18819384

Same reason gangbangers wear baggy jeans.

>> No.18819386

Most countries have no stock market culture. I'm from Austria and my father's firm wanted to create a fund for employees and gift them 5% equity so they'd get some divvies and such. The union shot the idea down telling us we're trying to create "little capitalists" out of honest workers.

>> No.18819388

i had a gigantic position in a knockout turbo warrant at 2950 spy. if it stayed just below that, today it would be around $250k
i kept buying more and more as it reached closer because it was pennies worth near the knockout, that would be worth multiple dollars if spy dropped just a little
of course, it reached 2952 a few days ago, then started going back down. like literally just to fuck me hard. god damn i can not stop thinking about this. it fucking went above for just a few fucking seconds like twice just to fuck me right in the ass

>> No.18819391

very nice, whats the time line on this

>> No.18819395

So it's confirmed a bioweapon then?

>> No.18819409
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What's this pattern called?

>> No.18819411

but you were giving us shit for not stock trading and just gambling on options and yet your gains are clearly not stock derived. unless you are literally buying shitstock penny stocks

>> No.18819414

even if that was the case youre still looking at ratios that are even at best.

china could have a 500k total amount and that will be even with where the US is winding up relative to pop. Death toll hasnt peaked

1.4b-300m populations and CDC is being very selective "since January 21, 2020, with the exception of persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China, and Japan."

The whole world cant be lying, the US is the statistical anomaly here

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>> No.18819424
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I was thinking about this today. Wasn’t eurocucks market closed yesterday? What do you think will happen with europoors that are holding Tesla? Will there be another sell off or are they just stuck with the bag

>> No.18819425

I have 70% of my portfolio in air Canada but I bought when It was at $15. Was up to 22$ on Wednesday now it's back at 19

>> No.18819426

technically unimpressive because its post corona, but i was fucking late..

>> No.18819429

No one said the whole world was lying, only that China is lying and India is incompetent. Both of those things are the norm.

>> No.18819434

this is a trade account.
youre right, i shouldve been clear.
but like i said im not going to give you tips. im not posting my folio here im sorry

>> No.18819444

i wish you the very best anon.

>> No.18819447

wtf is that comment about anime bitcoin real or shopped? does an actual CEO write that shit online?

>> No.18819448

Maybe cause china did a lockdown while Americans were partying on spring break. China didnt lie Americans are just retarded

>> No.18819450

>lost 1,5k on Oil as first trade
A nice start. Paranoid or there’s a probability of AI/traders specialized into buying the opposite of beginner reasoning?

>> No.18819451

In December 2019 a flu-like illness spread like wildfire in our office building and sent some of my coworkers to the ICU. We just had a coworker who was ill during that time test positive for long-term antibodies to COVID, and they haven't been ill since then. If that was actually COVID, I don't know how the peak of the outbreak in the US didn't occur around January because everyone was doing holiday parties and holiday travel while everyone was getting sick. I wouldn't be surprised if there were multiple strains that mutated and fizzled out.

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>> No.18819465

everyone here already knows how to trade options on spy and vxx i think theyll be fine

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>if you don't weld citizens in their homes and executed potential infected you're retarded
The American govenrment may be grossly mismanaged but at the very least it recognizes that its citizens are people, not bugs.
China lied people died

>> No.18819478

Is this how brainlets think?

>Hurrr durrr...doesn't matter what you say....priced in!!!

>> No.18819479

Wheres the proof they were welding people in their homes? Its propaganda

>> No.18819487


Swedes are not living normally at all.
We have soft enforced restrictions but we encourage great individual responsibility and most people listen and act accordingly.

>> No.18819488

i got sick the last week of december real bad, im 90% sure it was corona. sore throat, shortness of breath, lung heaviness and congestion, fatigue. would get better then worse then better then worse. id think i finally got over the hump and was feeling better then later that night id have to sit up to sleep and felt short of breath. i never had a flu or sickness that felt like that. im anxious to try the antibody test and see if it was corona. not sure how long the antibodies are detectable though

>> No.18819492

Hahaha. I think we bought the same shit. Burned a few grands in them

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>> No.18819516

t. john (我 保 證 我 是 美 國 人) smith

>> No.18819526

that shit was so tempting. 2 fucking points above. god damn

>> No.18819527

>conveniently forgets about all the vids of chinks literally welding apartment doors shut

>> No.18819532

>ackman made NO money
>elon musk is actually a billionaire

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Both dated the 1st of Feb

>> No.18819560

Not convinced.

>> No.18819586

Student loans has to be the funniest financial trap ever invented.

>> No.18819596

What is this pattern called

>> No.18819603
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>not accounting for inflation
Your chart is meaningless.

>> No.18819612

>he bought ETFs

>> No.18819616

WHERE ARE ALL MY BAG HOLDERS NIGGERS @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

>> No.18819621

Reported to the SEC

>> No.18819630

Guessing you are one of those >Thats a man posters

>> No.18819632

a+suc(b)= suc(a+b)
suc(suc(0)) + suc(suc(0))=

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Whenever I imagine people my age (20s) having tens of thousands of dollars in student loans, no house, no stocks, and jobs that make less than mine, I can't even imagine it.
how did they fuck up so badly in only a few short years lmao

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>> No.18819657

Gimme big titty

>> No.18819660


>> No.18819673
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Daily reminder to short the video game "industry."

>> No.18819674

yep ez indeed

>> No.18819678

Trump keeps implying they let it spread. So which is it?

>> No.18819685

i live in a cuck state with a chinkified city with a large population of fobby chinks. the outbreak in wuhan started in early november, i didnt get sick until last week of december. it takes 15 hours for a chink to fly from wuhan to SFO. dont kid yourself we had chinkflu here way before february

>> No.18819710

So poors stay poor. Based unions.

>> No.18819714

this is so tasteless and stupid

imagine having money for clothes and just buying POLOS

>> No.18819728

Chap how new are you.
Most memes throughout (our brief internet) history have come from 4chan. Especially /pol/

>> No.18819733

I think its a nice strategy. Low risk too since etfs fall when the rest of the market falls so stocks would fuck you too. The younger you start spending your extra money on ETFs the better you will be.

>> No.18819734

money and monday is going to be green. this is a V shaped recovery. FED won't let this ship sink. future of U AS AND A is on the line.

put your tinfoil hat down and conspiracy theories.

>> No.18819739

Saxobank Or interactive brokers

>> No.18819741

i need tiddies

>> No.18819750

my job gave me like 8 polos so far, I can't imagine buying them
polos and t-shirts are those kinds of clothing that you get for free, from your job or for participating in events (fundraisers, blood drives, etc.)

>> No.18819751

Brainlet confirmed
kek, you mutts handing over your freedumbs to political tards...
I think you're beyond help anon, sorry

>> No.18819753

big yikes

>> No.18819767
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I'm betting on banks, REITs and oil recovering and tech stocks having a "correction."

>> No.18819774
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Retard here.

So I just inherited a lump sum from my grandfather.

What are the "best" or somewhat essential indexes, stocks and bonds I can invest in?

So far I've decided on S&P 500, SPDR, Tesla, Canopy, Beyond Meat, NASDAQ, Gold, Silver and BTC.

>> No.18819775

And what exactly are you doing? You have the most expensive tinfoil hat on your head right now.

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>> No.18819803

Not even American

>> No.18819807
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So many braindead mumus ITT, it's unbelievable, i really hope you bullcucks are just memeing around, everything will do -80% in a month or two. Even a 70IQ nigger can figure this out.

>> No.18819808

Are you ok

>> No.18819812
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Invest in Racism.

>> No.18819814
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Cases per day will shoot right back up the second people get complacent.

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>White collar jobless claims on the rise

>> No.18819823

>bro the economy is just gonna collapse bro

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It's a cold virus that kills 80+ year olds. Get over it. Here's data from Ontario.

>> No.18819830

Nice bodies but their heads looks terrible, only number 2 doesn't look like a trisomic.

>> No.18819834

Once enough people get infected we'll have herd immunity

>> No.18819837

you did the right thing man. fuck college.

>> No.18819844

>world economy is a shitcoin or a tulip bulb

>> No.18819847

So MIC stocks.

>> No.18819848

video games is one of the few things you can do during quarantine.

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>+50 millions unemployed in 6 weeks
>everything is ok bru, priced in!

>> No.18819856

I'm financially - 0.00%.

>> No.18819867

basically yes, welcome to clownworld

>> No.18819869

Well then stop listening to US propaganda, easy

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>5 people between the ages of 0 and 39 died in Ontario
>it's the end of the world

>> No.18819894

any except 8 desu

>> No.18819901

Disagree, only number 8 is kinda ugly. Andyou are wrong number 2 doesn't look better than the other.

>> No.18819903

Based and SICPpilled

>> No.18819909

>chink goblinas
That's sadly a yikes from me, buddy.

>> No.18819927

I went to college

>> No.18819932

Like you say some countries are gonna be fucked while we come out fine. That said I think we crab 2020 and blast off after the election.

>> No.18819944

still, fuck college.

>> No.18819949

Fed just revealed they're cutting the equity stimulus by 90% you fucktard.

>> No.18819957

So far a friction of society is infected...could take a long time anon

This pic is getting older by the weeks. Love how everyone is reposting shit.

>> No.18819959

Except for the part where it kills people in the 30-40 range at triple the rate of influenza, and people are reporting respiratory issues even after eliminating the virus. Contrary to your retarded belief, we didn't shut the planet down over justaflu.

Herd immunity doesn't work unless it happens fast related to the mutation rate. For a virus like coronavirus, that means a month or so. It's likely that there are already more than a few serotypes floating around now. That means you could contract it again, and with many people not really recovering fully even weeks after testing negative you might get an even higher death rate the second time around. The only solution is a rapidly developed vaccine which targets all known serotypes and can be administered to 90% of the population in just a couple of months, but we're a year out from that. I'd advise selling your calls and thinking with your brain instead of your emotions.

>> No.18819963

Tell me where calculus touched you anon

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>> No.18819996

It's for my gun, you unarmed cuck.

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Pic related is from Friday you pea brained retards.

>> No.18820020

Sars could be contained because low numbers and it didn't spread as far, nor had a R0 even close to COVID-19. Now, COVID-19, that's another story. And the best is, it's widespread everywhere into the world, just in 3 months, from a single individual in Wuhan. What do you thin will happen when this winter, it reactivated, but this time not from a single person in China, but from thousands of individuals around the world?

>> No.18820026
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chink flu is pure fake (((news))), no doubt about it since weeks now for anyone who've done their homework.
The real spoopy question is : why do the illuminakikes want so hard to crash the economy with no survivors?
The answer wont please most of you.

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That's where I live.

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big brained knowledge drops


>> No.18820072

I believe a lot of people did the same thing and (((they))) noticed.

>> No.18820075

New thread


>> No.18820077

Nobody gives a fuck about you, leaf. If you're so sure it's a nothingburger then go out and get coofed on. Let us know if you die or get permanent lung tissue damage.

>> No.18820095

I work in IT so I have been working throughout this. I went out yesterday to a park and it was full of prajeets and chinks. Are you a mentally ill basement dwelling NEET?

>> No.18820106

Europe managed to partially wipe itself out in ww1, ww2. If you had any real estate, a house, a farm which was in your family for centuries it might have been razed or even taken over by the soviets or nazi Germany.
If could have had diversified your assets electronically like you do now this loss could be diversified away.
How do I know I shouldn't have at least some cash somewhere in the Switzerland?

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>> No.18820217

Real New Thread

>> No.18820238

btfo stupid anime man

>> No.18820250

To AI counter Wall Street Jews?

>> No.18820260

Remove the (s)

>> No.18820285

You’re such a kike. Not everyone wants to be indefinitely under house arrest

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