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Without circuit breakers and FED meddling with QE etc how far would we have fell ? This was 1929 again but the FED manipulated the fuck out of it.

>> No.18773544

>>18773239
All the money 2 trillion injection does is buy time. The collapse just got 2 trillion bigger and will be x months down the road, until they do another injection and so on until hyper inflation.

>> No.18773577

>>18773239
they have to create another debt bubble but unlike 2008 there is probably nothing left.
so we run into the danger of popping all debt bubbles that have ever been created.

if you call the shot and spot the next possible bubble you will be rich, if there is none buy gold and you will be rich

>> No.18773990

>>18773239
it can't go down because FED bails out

>> No.18774002

>>18773577
>another debt bubble but unlike 2008 there is probably nothing left
why you say that there is nothing left anon?>>18773544
>until they do another injection and so on until hyper inflation

>> No.18774011

>>18773544
>until they do another injection and so on until hyper inflation.
when will this happen in your opinion?

>> No.18774022

>>18773990
But who bails out the Fed? You'd say the taxpayer in the end. So who bails out the taxpayer? The government and companies by providing them some pay in these times. So who bails out the government and the companies then? See a pattern?

>> No.18774028

>>18774002
well, the 90s had the tech bubble, the 2000 had the real estate bubble, the 2010 had the china bubble, who or what is left to create and sustain a lot of debt?
do you think africa will bail us out?

>> No.18774047

>>18774011
2476

>> No.18774096

People are misunderstanding what's going on at this point. There are no longer debt bubbles.

Debt in the age of fiat is only a relic from older times and serves, on a political level, to make the governed classes believe that all men are equal under the state.
Debt requires, fundamentally, that the person issuing the debt foregoes some alternative in giving away the money; otherwise, he'd do it for free.
Debt can only exist when the governing powers have limited powers.
When the governing powers have the power to issue debt without themselves incurring any risk or cost, the concept of debt is bound to disappear.

We no longer live in a system of debt; any numbers of debt that you might see for any of the privileged classes (state, banks, even many large corporations it now seems) have no real debt, but a fake, meaningless number. It's fake because their liabilities will always, always, always be refinanced, and no cost to the financier, unless these recipient entities act like bad goyim and do not conform to the agenda of the day.

There are no longer any restraints on the printing of money, and so we must shift to a new paradigm of "debt". There is no bubble to collapse, because the collapsing of a bubble supposes that some privileged entity cannot pay back what they owe. Strictly speaking, none of those entities owe anything anymore.

What we have now is much more like a world financed by directly harvesting goy organs than a world financed by debt. We're past debt.

>> No.18774112

>>18774022
the fact is that the central bank can print money at will.. so in necessity periods like these they simply print money
>>18774028
it's left the EU and USA as always

>> No.18774311

>>18774112
Printing money at will devalues the currency and inflates almost all the bubbles we have currently. These bubbles were already about to burst and they will for sure now. Probably a fast moving collapse through all sectors.

As the other Anon said; we are just inflating the bubble to buy time to do... yeah well what? Restart the economy? Which can take years even if Corona dissapeared? The CB's will print money all that time? Sounds like a good plan.

In the end the bill will end up on the table of the consumer and thereby on the table of the companies and governments (reduced profit and tax) which will be footed again to other companies and employees -- which happen to be consumers as well. At this stage the snowball is picking up speed and all we can do is take our gains at the right moment. To get our piece of the pie before the snowball collapses under its own weight and increasing speed.

>> No.18774539

I dont understand why we dont just let this bitch pop and suffer some humility for a bit so we can come back stronger than before.
Its always some shady slippery snake "let me just reach into my magic hat" bullshit.

>> No.18774562

>>18774096
Yes, past debt, but not past inflation

The next collapse will be inflationary. Deflation will simply not be permitted

>> No.18774608

>>18774562
>>18774562
Definitely. The only bubble we can speak of is the power bubble resulting from fraudulent ownership of the currency supply. Fundamentally, temporal power needs to be backed by virtue.

>> No.18775333

>>18774562
>Deflation will simply not be permitted
can you explain why?