Why has america gotten shittier?

[Anonymous No.18772143]

>60% of americans live paycheck to paycheck
>50% of americans make less than $30k a year
>44% of workers make less than a living wage

If around 50% of jobs can't afford someone a home what is the point of those jobs existing? If everyone in that group up and quit their jobs the economy would be completely collapse. Does that mean half of the population must suffer so the other half can prosper?

[Anonymous No.18772155]

>>18772143
Jews

[Anonymous No.18772160]

>>18772143

Weird that having one gender compete for the same job would lower wages.

Quite interesting...

[Anonymous No.18772187]

>>18772143
>live paycheck to paycheck
>still no public healthcare
>muh land of fridums!

[Anonymous No.18772207]

Jews

[Anonymous No.18772238]

>>18772143
Because we have transitioned from a high-trust and mostly homogeneous society to a low-trust multicultural society.

This is what happens when you screw over future generations with demographic change, outsourcing of labor, illegal labor etc. We are no longer united, therefore cannot muster the political or social power to do good for our people, since we don't know who our people are anymore.

[Anonymous No.18772243]

>>18772187
ya I'd rather be taxed at 40% like some european countries and have a roof over my head and guaranteed healthcare than be taxed at 20% and unable to afford a studio apartment

Why are employers in charge of our healthcare in the first place? this doesn't make any sense

[Anonymous No.18772253]

>>18772143
No not half
100% must suffer while I neet comfily

[Anonymous No.18772258]

>>18772143
A departure from the last vestiges of sound money combined with decadence and social decay.

[Anonymous No.18772272]

>>18772243
European countries are full of poverty specially for old people

[Anonymous No.18772314]

>>18772272
Even in northern europe?

[Anonymous No.18772329]

>>18772143
When you import people from the third world you get third world living conditions.

[Anonymous No.18772366]

Those are just teenagers, or at least the jobs are meant for teenagers. $10/hr seems low but when you have no bills that gives you a healthy head start on investing. Do boomer funds and work towards a real job. Keep living with parents a couple years after landing a 60k+/yr job and you have a down-payment on a big house in the big city or enough to buy outright in one of the smaller cities. The American dream is still alive, the problem is people are doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.18772369]

>>18772272
what the fuck are you talking about? It's quite the opposite actually; young people are broke and it's often thanks to the parents and grandparents pension that things can still move on.

[Anonymous No.18772375]

>>18772329
but how could 20 million people ruin the lives of 350 million people?

My dad made $15 an hour working in a factory in 1977 with just his high school diploma. How the fuck is jefe picking strawberries going to have an effect on jobs like that?

I'd blame shipping jobs overseas and automation before I'd blame immigration

[Anonymous No.18772477]

>>18772375
It's not so much the strawberry pickers as it is literally every entry level job. They say there's a labor shortage so we need pajeets to come over and spaghetti code, tech support, middle management, etc. They even erode wages in hvac, plumbing, and electric. Besides that, you can pick strawberries with just a high school degree so even if you don't like the idea of doing it that's a job stolen from an actual American who deserves in. Mexcrement send like 80% or more of their stolen money back to Mexico so the effect is amplified by spending leaving the country instead of going back into the local, or state economy. Fuckers get benefits but dodge taxes too. I'd like to line every shitskin up and place a nail in the back of their heads.

[Anonymous No.18772511]

>>18772272
Many europoors live paycheck to paycheck but AT LEAST they have guaranteed healthcare

[Anonymous No.18772538]

>>18772511
>Forgot public schools and no such thing as (((student loans)))

[Anonymous No.18772542]

>>18772238
Sad but true unfortunately. What I’d argue is even worse than the intentional top down miscegenation has been the behavioral sink created through the demiurgic organized chaos of what seems to be a coalition of filthy Trots. The fabrics of society have been ripped, torn, and dyed with the decline and transmorphing of religious, moral, cultural, sexual, occupational, legal, and educational norms combined with a perpetual historical revisionism that we’re seeing play out in real time with the renaming of the Spanish flu to ‘The 1918 influenza epidemic.’

[Anonymous No.18772643]

>>18772375
>but how could 20 million people ruin the lives of 350 million people?

Simple. It is wage stagnation as well as native exclusion from jobs traditionally worked by citizens. Business effectively keeps wages super low so they are unworkable to anyone except cheap illegal labor. Your father effectively made 63$ an hour in 1977 working a job that didn't require a degree. Good luck getting a job like that now even coming straight out of college with a degree.

You can thank illegal labor and outsourcing for destroying future generations via wage reduction.

>>18772542
Agreed. We can blame a number of groups but in my opinion the worst offenders are Boomers. While most of them did harm without intent, it doesn't absolve them from being led like cattle. I think there is still hope but it will require short and long term suffering to put things back on track.

[Anonymous No.18772969]

>>18772643
This does seem to be the case at present. While it’s true that the cabal is formed of various sects of merchants, Freemasons, and flavors of commies nearly all of worst actors and controllers across the spectrum still breathing are Boomers. I’d argue that their complacency with and support for turning the wheel in this direction has been the first mover advantage in regards to the Cantillon effect of money printing associated with their lifecycle in the timeline and nonstop Talmud Vision from cradle to grave.

I anticipate that long before riots break out state side that many of us will have to contemplate the risk of verbalizing unspeakable political positions which would otherwise be entirely acceptable had the Overton window not been forcibly shifted into its current position.

[Anonymous No.18772998]

>>18772143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ

[Anonymous No.18773076]

>>18772238
Same shit happening in leafland. People aren't friends with their neighbours anymore and nobody trusts eachother. Fuck globalism.

[Anonymous No.18773096]

>>18772155
> muh jews

Just say elites

[Anonymous No.18773100]

jews

[Anonymous No.18773113]

>>18772238
This is true but things went bad earlier. I believe multiculturalism is a symptom and not the cause

[Anonymous No.18773141]

>>18772155
actually it was reagan, clinton and neocons/neoliberals in general

[Anonymous No.18773223]

>>18772272
Most Western European countries have greater median wealth per adult than the US

[Anonymous No.18773247]

>>18772238
the fuck does that even mean, the USA made its fortune from world war, then from then on it just banked on wars after wars, your system was never viable, it always depended on leeching off some country resources, be it africa the middle east or western countries.

it'll collapse at some point and america will just be another third world country, history has proven many times that empires always collapse, you are ust witnessing your own collapse and its not gonna get better yllou can only fgo down from here

[Anonymous No.18773256]

>>18772143
This is your economy with working women.

[Anonymous No.18773264]

>>18772969
I think between the threat of balkanization and the slow decay of natives self agency that things will start to look up in regards to coming to terms with that we have to do to preserve our society and culture. As you always know though it's a battle of optics, at least right now. The worse things gets the more you can ease up on optics, we are just not there yet.

>>18773076
>Fuck globalism.
Seriously. I think we are starting to see a transition back to nationalism however via Americas new foreign policy and this wuflu stuff.

>>18773113
>I believe multiculturalism is a symptom and not the cause.
It just really bothers me that the average westerner has been conditioned to such a degree that no one bats an eye when put in front of the threat of ethnic and cultural replacement. People would rather destroy their childrens future than speak 'wrongly' out of fear of social retribution. Regardless, unchecked multiculturalism whether the symptom or cause is being abused by elites to further an agenda and they do not care about the consequences.

[Anonymous No.18773268]

>>18772998
holy based I just wish this guy was around for the PNK revolution

[Anonymous No.18773275]

>>18772238
>we have transitioned from a high-trust and mostly homogeneous society to a low-trust multicultural society.

>This is what happens when you screw over future generations with demographic change, outsourcing of labor, illegal labor etc.

You (you) screwed yourselves over for convenience. Plus most of you idiots couldn't pass your OWN citizenship test. Cry harder.

[Anonymous No.18773309]

>>18772143
America is ruled by an elite that only cares about shovelling in more money themselves at the cost of the working and middle class.
Costs for education, healthcare, etc. is absolutely ridiculous, most of the money people pay for that stuff goes straight into the pockets of the elite. Just look at what boomers paid for college compared to what people pay today.
Most countries recently spent a shitton of money on preventing people from getting fired, the elite in America only cared about their stock prices.
Most people in America refuse to see this and the ones who do bicker over whether the elite is the rich (leftist interpretation) or the jews (right-wing interpretation).

[Anonymous No.18773345]

>>18773247
We have only gone to war to fulfill national interests. Whether it is to secure the petrodollar, a resource, or hegemony America has always used its military to wage war to gain these things.

The things we have fought for have (mostly) allowed American citizens to enjoy a relatively high quality of life, as well as the privilege of holding the biggest stick in the international community. Here is where you are wrong:

We do not require anything the outside world has. We are self sufficient. We now:
>Are energy independent via shale revolution.
>Are agriculturally self sufficient.
>Have the strongest military in the world.
>GDP as imports/exports is around 15%, half of which is just Canada and Mexico.

Continuing the global order has only made us poorer and weaker. Younger generations objectively will make less money and have a poorer quality of life than their parents. All of OPs above reasons America has gotten shittier can be broken down to terrible policy decisions which is a direct consequence of living in a low-trust multicultural society.

[Anonymous No.18773379]

>>18772155

[Anonymous No.18773390]

>>18773275
>You (you) screwed yourselves over for convenience.

I agree with you, however it is not the fault of the younger generations who were born into the mess our parents handed to us. As was it our fathers and forefathers responsibility for fucking things up, it is now our responsibility to make things better for ourselves, our children, and our future.

>Plus most of you idiots couldn't pass your OWN citizenship test. Cry harder.
Correction, SOME of us couldn't pass our citizenship test. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of ignorant people in my country. Despite that it is still not acceptable that elites are replacing us and some of my countrymen are ignorantly and willfully going along with it. You would feel the same if your country was going through the same thing.

[Anonymous No.18773438]

>>18773345
i don't think it has anything to do with low trust society due to multiculturalism, it makes no sense you're implying that markets rely on people loving each other, you are just going against capitalism.
just check other countries that arn't multi cultural like CHina, they are a super power but life there sucks ass.

the real reason is global competition, the raising of global quality of life and the demographics. More and more people are going to college, there is more and more competition for jobs,also there are more mouths to feed as the demographics arn't decreasing.

you have now cheaper labour that is AS smart in other countries capitalism forces those companies to get cheaper labour elsewhere, that's why you got massive decentralization with big factories in 3rd world countries, your whole production is done elsewhere and doesn't profit you nor the countries they recieve them, because locals get paid cheap

[Anonymous No.18773521]

>>18772243
After WWII, with the booming economy and smaller workforce due to fighting a war that killed or maimed a lot of men, companies had to come up with new ways to attract workers. Offering health insurance was one of their ideas and it just kind of stuck.

[Anonymous No.18773582]

>>18773438
>t makes no sense you're implying that markets rely on people loving each other, you are just going against capitalism.

Markets and GDP are not an absolute measure of economic success. A better measurement is quality of life, cost of living, quality of education, healthcare, and infrastructure. This is demonstrable just by reading the OP. While I am no socialist of communist, you must admit that capitalism in a low trust society doesn't have the citizens best interest at heart like it is supposed to. This is also demonstrable via companies outsourcing, hiring illegal labor, practicing bad business etc.

>just check other countries that arn't multi cultural like CHina, they are a super power but life there sucks ass.
You are correct that homogeneity doesn't always correlate with high-trust societies, however you are not factoring in WHO makes up the homogeneous population. There exists NO highly multicultural state that is either a superpower or socially and economically successful.

>the real reason is global competition.
Which outsourcing and the mass importation of illegal labor is a direct result from.

>More and more people are going to college, there is more and more competition for jobs,also there are more mouths to feed as the demographics arn't decreasing.
The demographics ARE decreasing for the native population, not for the people we are importing en mass to lower our wages and take our jobs.

>your whole production is done elsewhere and doesn't profit you nor the countries they recieve them
It profits both the elite and the lower classes in America as well as the third world because:
>The elite tighten their profit margins and the market goes up to reflect this.
>The average American consumer pays less for products,
>The third world gets to industrialize and therefore eat.

This however is unsustainable and has lead to the biggest issues we face today as a society.

[Anonymous No.18773586]

>>18772143
Bunch of factors
> Wage Stagnation due to population increase + immigration, especially at entry levels.
> Globalization / offshoring of jobs
> Increased automation and elimination of entry level work
> Rampant rent-seeking and cost inflation in housing, healthcare, and other industries.
> Generational brainwashing that people don't earn more because they're "Lazy", and that you somehow need to "earn", over decades if need be, the "right" to average middle class pay; while giving up 99% of your time in the process.
All of this is indicative of a broken system, where business interests / corporatism has run rampant, and crony capitalism has replaced true capitalism. People under 40 today have to work longer, harder, and for less money than their parents did at the same career level, and are told they should be grateful for it.
The most recent $600/wk extra unemployment debate is a great example; with some unemployed folks bringing in now an equivalent $20-25/hr. Most people would agree 40-50k a year isn't a lot of money, yet many people are so underpaid it seems like being rich. And they're getting shamed for it, while business owners get *forgivable* "loans" which would let them use employees as free labor during the crisis.
>>18772366
Why hire teenagers when you can get someone with a MS degree? This happened in 2008- even people with STEM degrees weren't safe, since the boomers decided to just not retire. When you can get someone with decades of experience for pennies, and only have them work 29 hours a week so no benefits, there is zero reason to take a risk on a younger person with aspirations.

[Anonymous No.18773619]

>>18773345
Have you ever had a look at a shale production graph?

[Anonymous No.18773621]

>>18772143
Americans got memed into stupid shit like trickle down economics as well as conditioned to think educating yourself on your own labor interests is evil Russian Communism during the Cold War.
t. burger

[Anonymous No.18773637]

We got parasites

[Anonymous No.18773647]

>>18773076
It’s going to get worse. You fuckers are going to need to say something or the next generation will blame you as we blame boomers.

[Anonymous No.18773653]

everyone from pol in here, please go back

[Anonymous No.18773655]

>>18773264
>Seriously. I think we are starting to see a transition back to nationalism however via Americas new foreign policy and this wuflu stuff.
We're way too far gone lad. The last chance to turn back was the early 2000s. Trade and travel are way too big now and Canada is like 35% foreign born or some bs now. (and 60%+ in some cities) Not sure how things are in the states but I assume it's just as bad.

[Anonymous No.18773660]

>>18773141
aka jews

[Anonymous No.18773665]

>>18772155

/thread

[Anonymous No.18773670]

>>18773619
https://talkbusiness.net/2020/01/u-s-to-remain-net-energy-exporter-through-2050/

We are not reliant upon foreign oil anymore. Every year that goes by we find ways to produce shale cheaper.

[Anonymous No.18773679]

>>18773647
Fuck them too. Next generation will be majority nonwhite. They're going to hate me for being white and privileged no matter what I do, I'm going to hate them for marking the end of this country. I vote against all local measures designed to increase school funding or other stuff that would benefit kids solely because I'm done with globohomos stealing from me to fund my replacements.

[Anonymous No.18773695]

>>18773679
Good, at least nonwhites are anti Semitic

[Anonymous No.18773698]

>>18773096
They're over 40% jews, and the ones that aren't are almost universally Zionists or connected via marriage or strong business connections. And regular jews will almost always defend them. So either term is basically referring to the same thing.

>>18773586
Just as a note, it's not "Corporatism", which a very different beast beloved by 19th century Socialists, Catholic Integralists & later Fascists (actual Fascists in the 30s, not meme Fascists). Basically a system of "Guilds" (kinda) combined with Unions that allow for collective organisation & ownership by workers, with loose government oversight. What we call Corporations under the current system of welfare plutocracy are an abomination to benefit the few on top only.

>>18773621
This basically. It's the temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome - deliberately vote against your own interests, because if you hypothetically became a billionaire, you'd rug the system too. It's retarded.

[Anonymous No.18773706]

>>18772143
>50% of Americans make less than $30k
And 17% of Americans make more than $100k a year. It’s clear Americans are devolving into the haves and have nots. Most of these 17% are government workers. The problem is GOVERNMENT as always. Does a police officer deserve $120k a year? And a $100k a year retirement???

[Anonymous No.18773725]

>>18773706
If you're worried about a cop making 100k, you are naive about how much the cantillon insiders robbing us actually have.

[Anonymous No.18773727]

>>18773655
I understand your pessimism but ultimately disagree with your outlook.

>America is pulling out of NATO, forcing Europe to go back to the Imperial System.
>America has not renewed its commitments to defend Asia, with maybe the exception of Japan.
>America has reversed its position on Saudi security policy, effectively gutting ISIS.
>America has denied Saudi Arabia and Israel the buffer state of the Kurds.
>America is signing peace agreements with the Taliban and is slowly leaving the area.
>America is killing the Chinese on trade.
>The WuFlu is showing the world that globalism is unsustainable.

While the transition will take long, all it takes is one catalyst to really get the ball rolling. Hopefully that catalyst will be WuFlu.

[Anonymous No.18773731]

>>18773695
I can only hope the Chinese finish off the kikes once and for all after America is done. Thank God yellow guilt doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.18773733]

Needed debasement and tax to fight german empire then the national socialists then the communists still ongoing
Debasement and tax makes people poor, poor people do desperate and imoral things because their backs are against the wall.
Poor people fall victim to identity propaganda race, age, religion, gender etc and vote for more socialism which means more tax more poverty and we get a negative feedback loop

[Anonymous No.18773735]

>>18773698
Yep its called Corporatocracy. People confuse Corporatism with it because it seems fitting at first glance.

[Anonymous No.18773752]

>>18773653
Not been to /pol/ for a long, long time. It's mostly neocon boomers now, if someone shows up praising Israel & Murica you'll know they're from /pol/.

>>18773655
It's over for everyone honestly. Nations are just shitty tax farms at this point, its just too far gone already. Best thing to do is just try to build your own "tribe" in the shitty cyberpunk dystopia to come.

[Anonymous No.18773756]

>>18773670
https://capitalistexploits.at/fed-policy-chaos-theory-shale-and-dangerous-miscalculations-in-the-middle-east/
Would be good if shale didn't drop off a cliff after 6 months and had an ounce of actual profit in it. US energy independence via shale is a meme, even if it survives this

[Anonymous No.18773765]

>>18773725
>t.related to a cop
A fucking cop doesn’t deserve a $100k a year for beating niggers and chasing spics. Government employees should be paid less, PERIOD.

[Anonymous No.18773790]

the real answer is simple. there are too many people
doesn't get much simpler than that

[Anonymous No.18773793]

>>18773733
We should try an Incan based economic system except the nobility[elites] are also subject to its requirements.

[Anonymous No.18773802]

>>18773309
It's being done on purpose. We've funneled trillions into the stock market and large corporations, which come Q2/Q3 will be firing people anyway due to "poor economic conditions" (after keeping the staff on for free atm, at least until the PPP funds run out). Meanwhile people get $1200 and are told more would "cost too much", but please ignore the fact we gave $10,000+ per person to big businesses, and think it will trickle down.
>>18773698
>welfare plutocracy
That's a good clarification to make, what we consider corporations today is a far cry from what the 19th and early 20th considered them to be. The guilds system had it's own issues of corruption, arguably just as bad as what we see now (Think the worst of apprenticeships+unions combined); but was self-limited to a degree, since there was no global reach. Corporatism sucks, and it's uncontrolled spread has seriously fucked this country up. We're socialist in all the wrong ways, and hell even fascism would be better for workers than this.

[Anonymous No.18773808]

>>18773727
>The WuFlu is showing the world that globalism is unsustainable.
You obviously haven't had the displeasure of interacting with boomers and other consoomers during the pandemic. Amazon is bigger than ever, they're going into grocery stores to buy frivolous useless things. Fuck them, I hope they all die and the wagies over at Amazon behead Jeff.

[Anonymous No.18773810]

>>18772155

fpbp

[Anonymous No.18773832]

>>18772238
same here in England. Look at the paranoia and selfish behaviours people are displaying during covid. Sure, there have always been chavs and scum but in WWII the entire country was united, helping each other, all proud of the flag. Now half of the country would rather not be there and just live there for the handouts/relative quality of life. No one trusts their neighbour, no one has a 'community' anymore unless you live in a very affluent village or the fuckin cotswolds or something. as lazy and /pol/ tier as it sounds, globalism and mass immigration have unilaterally fucked the West.

[Anonymous No.18773853]

>>18773793
The cycle of civilization wont end until people arent divided

[Anonymous No.18773868]

>>18773582
i'm not saying i know everything i really appreciate your point of view, but i still have things to say on what you replied

>Markets and GDP are not an absolute measure of economic success
I agree with this, you're right it's not only about the money

> A better measurement is quality of life, cost of living, quality of education, healthcare, and infrastructure.

but don't you think that those are a consequence or impacted by a high GDP and good markets? Why would people or companies accumulate capital if not to redistribute it by investing in infrastriucture and a better way of life in general?

hmm I might have an idea, what do you think if I say that it's because maybe today the 1% that owns everything doesn't have the interests of the country it lives in at heart? what if the 1% are not true citizens of your country and just use that money to put it in other countries and help other populations? what do you think?
I wouldn't say its related to multi culturalism, people who immigrate work hars and pay taxes, maybe its the people who get that money arn't doing something right?

>There exists NO highly multicultural state that is either a superpower or socially and economically successful.
true i cannot deny this, but this doesn't prove correlation

>Which outsourcing and the mass importation of illegal labor is a direct result from.
outsourcing doesnt bring labour into your country, also why do you consider ILLEGAL labour as being that big? illegals mostly do jobs that the natives don't want to do, like cleaning the streets, working in stores and so on, they contribute to improving our lives because they take on jobs no one wants but are essential.

cont...

[Anonymous No.18773876]

>>18773582

>The demographics ARE decreasing for the native population, not for the people we are importing en mass to lower our wages and take our jobs.

jus think for a second, if the native demographic is decreasing, then they arn't taking your jobs, they are actually working for you.

>The third world gets to industrialize and therefore eat.
i don't agree with this, companies that outsource ruin the countries they are in, they buy kland en masse, pay cheap and basically treat the natives like slaves making work like animals.

the local economies dont profit from this, only the elites in those countries that get some side money to close they eyes on the workers conditions.

also those companies don't care about environment because rules in those countries can be easily circomvented

[Anonymous No.18773899]

>>18773853
The Incan empire had effectively no money yet it was rich. Every citizen had free food, free housing, free clothing, free anything but at the expense of tax to the government. This tax was paid in the form of labor. Trade with outsiders was barter. I think this system would work with a lot of small nations but instead of a dictatorship like the Incan government a replacement with an Athenian free democracy with checks and balances to avoid corruption is far more suitable.

[Anonymous No.18773918]

>>18773808
indeed. it won't change shit. people will not pay more for things, companies will not pay them more to make things, shareholders will not accept massive drops in revenue and dividends. There's heaps of reasons the western world shipped all the manufacturing to hellscapes like China.

[Anonymous No.18773928]

>>18772143
china fucked us

[Anonymous No.18773939]

>>18773899
Sounds like you'd like china.

[Anonymous No.18773943]

>>18773899
do you even realize you are praising communism? you don't have to go as far as the incans, any communist country does exactly that.
everything is the property of the state, but the state will take care of you.
thats communism 101

[Anonymous No.18773961]

>>18773939
>>18773943
Not communism or socialism. Communitarianism in the truest sense.

[Anonymous No.18773978]

>>18773961
here come the semantics

[Anonymous No.18774001]

>>18773978
All communist and socialist states had money, the Incans didn’t have money and they worshipped their emperor as god. Government didn’t own the means of production, the people owned it and in return they had a stable social system that gave them what they wanted.

[Anonymous No.18774007]

>>18773961
>We should try an Incan based economic system except the nobility[elites] are also subject to its requirements.
isnt it what you said? isnt this exactly what stalin did?

like everybody is a subject of the state, but then u'd need a leader to make all this working, and BOOPM here you go you just recreated USSR

[Anonymous No.18774018]

>>18774007
No there would be no money.

[Anonymous No.18774023]

>>18774001
>Marxism–Leninism is a political philosophy that seeks to establish a socialist state to develop further into socialism and eventually communism, a classless social system with common ownership of the means of production and with full social and economic equality of all members of society


that's exactly what you are saying

[Anonymous No.18774025]

>>18773961
>>18774018
>No money
>Communitarianism
please die already retard

[Anonymous No.18774042]

>>18774023
>>18774025
There has never been a state in history that’s achieved this.

[Anonymous No.18774052]

>>18774042
every ask yourself why?

[Anonymous No.18774085]

>>18774052
There’s no comparison between communism/socialism to what the Incans had as an economic system. Communism/socialism was based on the money economic system of redistribution of wealth. The incans had a system of labor = product, not labour = money = product.

[Anonymous No.18774109]

>>18774085
you realise the modern world just couldn't function in that way right?

[Anonymous No.18774145]

>>18774109
Modern world could function perfectly without jews, though

[Anonymous No.18774191]

>>18774085
The common feature is slavery as you cannot accumulate wealth without the authority of some cunt who is inevitably a corrupt psychopath

[Anonymous No.18774255]

>>18774085
you cant just get rid of money, also i think you're misleading,
money == LABOUR.

money is basically a promise of labour.

[Anonymous No.18774282]

DeFi is unironically the way out of this mess

[Anonymous No.18774286]

>>18772143
I don't know anon

[Anonymous No.18774309]

>>18772243
>Why are employers in charge of our healthcare in the first place? this doesn't make any sense
FDR didn't allow pay raises (seriously) because he feared inflation so they began to offer health insurance as a benefit.

[Anonymous No.18774328]

>>18772511
many, but not 60 % famalam

[Anonymous No.18774330]

>>18774286
nice

[Anonymous No.18774338]

>>18772143
Well that's what you get when the top earners' incomes increased by 500 % and the average incomes increased by 2 % in the past 50 years

[Anonymous No.18774339]

>>18773621
>trickle down economics

[Anonymous No.18774342]

>mfw biz has become what /pol/ was in the earlier days

this thread is great as we can discuss rationally like human beings, /pol/ was like that before being raided by the normie retards, in the earlier days...

[Anonymous No.18774407]

>>18774342
It wont ever be corrupted like pol because of bizs profit incentive

[Anonymous No.18774413]

>>18774339
>OMG THE RICH ARE GOING TO GIVE ME THEIR MONEY IF I JUST LET THEM CONTROL EVERYTHING AND SUCK THEIR COCKS

[Anonymous No.18774426]

>>18774413
Worked

[Anonymous No.18774431]

>>18772143
The browning of society op. Why even ask?

[Anonymous No.18774491]

>>18773765
government """""""employees"""""" (really just gang members) shouldn't exist

[Anonymous No.18774546]

>>18773899
>Every citizen had free food, free housing, free clothing, free anything but at the expense of tax to the government. This tax was paid in the form of labor
Isn't this basically feudalism or am I not understanding you right?

[Anonymous No.18774561]

>>18773899
You're fucking retarded, the people your claiming were so rich were essentially slaves. Yeah they got free food and housing, as much as they were given at least, and as far as advancing their place in the world, keep on fucking dreaming. As someone else pointed out, it's communism. Power and wealth are concentrated at the top, with the rest serving the state.

[Anonymous No.18774574]

>>18772155
you mean one of the most educated, rich and prized groups in America? Yeah, must be their fault right

[Anonymous No.18774625]

>>18773679
bud, take your low cost diesel and talk to farmers to ottawa

[Anonymous No.18774629]

>not one answer mentioning the real cause, which is the federal reserve and going off the gold standard

Why is /biz/ full of retards?

[Anonymous No.18774675]

>>18774001

barter systems like what you're describing have serious problems that money solves quite eloquently (double coincidence of wants, difficulty of making future payments or contractual payments and difficulty of storing value, etc.)

Monetary systems are far more efficient and convenient, that's why all civilizations more advanced than the Incans use them.

[Anonymous No.18774778]

Because you didn't listen.

[Anonymous No.18774795]

everyone who brings how america makes its own oil and is not reliant on foreign exports misses the point and the bigger picture.
the only thing that's backing up the dollar is america strong arming the world to trade all the oil in their currency.that's why gadaffi needed to go,that's why the middle east needed to be "freedom" bombed and that's why cia niggers
are working tirelessly to do that in venezuela next.
am i wrong?

[Anonymous No.18774852]

>>18774795
Nah you're right, the USD is literally powered by neocon wars and I don't think there's enough words in any language to describe how much I unironically seethe over that idea
The American government is easily the worst in the West.

[Anonymous No.18774878]

>>18774795
That became the old paradigm as soon as china launched yuan oil futures backed by gold

[Anonymous No.18774904]

>>18774878
well its about time for world war 3 isn't it?

[Anonymous No.18775106]

>>18772187
Public healthcare?
THATS COMMIE
THATS GONNA COST INSURANCE PEOPLE THEIR JERBS
IZ A GUD SLAVE FO MASSAH
DEY GIVEZ ME INSURANCE

[Anonymous No.18775252]

>>18773096
spotted the jew

[Anonymous No.18775281]

>>18774328
And that's where you're wrong.

[Anonymous No.18775584]

>>18773808
That's because we are told to. That things will get back to normal, that it's all because of the magical plague, go out and buy from the handful of massive corporations is good and closing down all businesses that dont serve the rich or are owned by the rich is good.

[Anonymous No.18775589]

>>18772243
>letting the government take more of your money
Just move somewhere cheaper cuck

[Anonymous No.18775686]

>>18773868
>doesnt bring labour into your country, also why do you consider ILLEGAL labour as being that big? illegals mostly do jobs that the natives don't want to do, like cleaning the streets, working in stores and so on, they contribute to improving our lives because they take on jobs no one wants but are essential.

That's fucking bullshit.
That's normalizing the idea of slavery and a lesser lower class.
The idea of a working class being good and being respected and being protected is thought of as wrong by the American class.
Why?
Because it's not the "top jobs"
It's not the jobs that the rich seem as good through media manipulation
Because it creates the idea that they do not fucking deserve it.
Bullshit.
Its classism so dense so horrifying so overwhelming so pervasive..
Dear god we dont even manufacturing anymore.
Its iij n other coi tries.
The average merrimutt would gladly pay extra ffg or good American made goods that would last and employ Americans and be something the average amerimutt would be proud of.

[Anonymous No.18775699]

>>18772143
>women in the workforce
>outsourcing
>immigration

[Anonymous No.18775721]

>>18773876
No shit.
This is the magic of globalism.
It's the destruction of nationalism to ed mpower the wealthy few.
It's bad in America. But the Chinese are getting the red white and blue dick balks deep.
Chinks are gonna have a full on civil w azad r before amerifats.
Mark my words

[Anonymous No.18775734]

>>18772143
>50% of americans make less than $30k a year
50% of people have an IQ below 100. First world nations have little use for such brainlets, they should count themselves lucky anyone needs them at all let alone values them at ~$30k/yr.

[Anonymous No.18775745]

>>18772238
Ding ding ding

[Anonymous No.18775770]

>>18772238
This was confirmed by Amazon owner. He was caught saying to diverse hire because then the employees will not unionize.

[Anonymous No.18775818]

>>18773096
The (white) elite is based. They look out for us working folks. They're not a bad lot unlike jewish, black, Asian elites who want us to suffer out of perversion.

[Anonymous No.18775821]

>>18775734
Who do you think buys that shit
That makes that shit they sell
That fights their wars
That maintains the infrastructure

Dont fucking treat the people who make up a majority of society like trash.

God damn.. and they're going to gaslight imbeciles like you into thinking the side effects of the magical vaccine which we are ALL going to be forced to take are good.
Lowering its
Causing autism and lowering birthrates

[Anonymous No.18775850]

>>18773096
Over 50% of the elites are Jews.

[Anonymous No.18775854]

>>18775770
Yes.
Because media is created to drive a wedge between the races, sexes. Families, generations, and within the previous groups, and creating fake convenient classes.
No one will ever find common ground unless it's on their terms.

[Anonymous No.18775874]

>>18772538
student loans are a thing here, at least in some countries. But the thing is if you don't make enough money you don't have to pay it back.

[Anonymous No.18775919]

>>18773096
They’re not “elite” though.

[Anonymous No.18775999]

>>18772238
>high trust society
>BRUH U NEED GUNS TO PROTECT YOURSELF
>t some faggot 200 years ago
Looool, America was never a high trust society. Mutts are incapable of trust, which is why you have your insane gun worship culture since day 1

[Anonymous No.18776040]

>>18775818
stockholm syndrome

[Anonymous No.18776071]

>>18775999
You either need guns or big daddy government. Which would a free man choose, Fag.

[Anonymous No.18776213]

the country isn't maintained. they just let it run till the gears on the machine rust out then jump ship because peoples out looks are so short sighted they cant see the train coming towards them. on top of that and america was built on top of turmoil greed and hate with rapid expansion, not a great recipe.

[Anonymous No.18776358]

>>18774574
good goy. have some shekels.

[Anonymous No.18776383]

>>18772160
Underrated.

[Anonymous No.18776423]

>>18775874
Almost in all EU school is public, there are some private schools but they often are not better than public ones.
In US you pay to go almost everywhere, public schools are for niggers, often you end up with student debt even to get a shitty degree.

[Anonymous No.18776856]

>>18776423
Private schools are usually worse then public schools in that they are merely giving a grade to their clients.
Schools that dont teach are merely day cares and indoctrination camps.

Chinks care little for intelligence. Only the appearance if such and ego. The fact that their race is seen as a plague in many countries should tell you that.

[Anonymous No.18776914]

>>18772155
fpbp

[Anonymous No.18776928]

>>18773141
So, jews?

[Anonymous No.18776961]

>>18772143

It's demographics are just Brazil's with more Jews

That's the core of the issue and everything stems from that biological/genetic. The gambling based clown economy with no value, the poor air quality keeping city dwellers in a permanent mental fog, the lack of cultural cohesiveness, it all stems from the physical reality of genes and inherited behaviors.

[Anonymous No.18777061]

https://youtu.be/HX8ljqgNH10

History repeats itself. Jews get into power, divide and conquer the population, and tank the country from within.

[Anonymous No.18777155]

[Jerome Powell No.18777193]

/pol/ is leaking.

Multiculturalism, outsourcing, and wage suppression are SYMPTOMS of an underlying problem not the CAUSE of it.

The cause of the problems you see in America today is unequivocally the Federal Reserve, central banking, and the continuous erosion of the U.S. dollar that started in the early 20th century but accelerated after 1971. This is why the U.S. can export its dollars, which is the world reserve currency, and buy cheap labour from abroad. This is why wage suppression is a thing because companies no longer have competitive pressures (especially with many of them surviving on cheap fictional credit). This is also why we are seeing the disintegration of American society because people no longer think and save for a better future (family, house, etc.).

Why else do you think everything went to shit starting from roughly around that date?

End the Fed and you will fix the problems that are plaguing the U.S. Thankfully we have the power of the Internet today so people can inform themselves of what is going on - the Romans and citizens of other now fallen empires did not have that luxury.

[Jerome Powell No.18777228]

>>18777193

It is a common-thread running through the lifecycle of almost empire. The periods of decadence and disintegration are ALWAYS precipitated by monetary debasement and inflation from governments wishing to spend beyond their means.

[Jerome Powell No.18777283]

>>18777193
>>18777228

Remember: exchange and money is the foundation of human society. If you fuck with society's money you are fucking with society itself.

Keynesians and retarded central bankers will never admit this because they've been brainwashed into thinking that monetary debasement and inflation targeting is a good thing, but NEVER believe their lies.

Central bankers and their associates (fraudulent cronyist bankers) are responsible for what happened to America and for destroying what was once a beautiful dream. Never forget this.

[Anonymous No.18777284]

>>18772542
Nice fucking word salad. What does this even mean?

[Anonymous No.18777286]

>>18772143

Because US tech want to transition the whole country into a global R&D hub, the brain of the world body, which is already happened de-facto.

But trump supporters and other uneducated scum, including SJWs are not needed. The competition is only among these useless degenerates left behind by evolution.

Just this.

[Jerome Powell No.18777338]

>>18777283

Another crucial point:

Political influence is being bought using Federal Reserve Notes that are printed out of thin air. Remember that this system constantly enriches the rich, impoverishes the poor, and gives power to those who are close to the central bank, allowing them to institute regulations that protect their wealth and power under the guise of social justice and the common-good.

[Jerome Powell No.18777484]

>>18777193
>>18777228
>>18777283
>>18777338

I'm going to finish off my monologue by reiterating this extremely important point because it cannot be stressed enough and it is crucial that all of you are aware of it because the system relies on opaqueness and a lack of knowledge among the general population:

Central banking is responsible for systemic inequality and the erosion of the middle-class. It is responsible for the fortification of the wealthy's power, and it is responsible for the accelerating regulatory capture of the United States government.

The Fed, central bankers, the BIS, the IMF, and other monetary institutions must be held responsible for the destruction of human society (especially American society) and the advent of dystopia and indeed slavery through debt.

Inform your family, friends, and colleagues. Buy gold, silver, and crypto. There is a better world hidden under the systemic stagnation in society, all you need to do to see it is inform yourself.

If we allow it through spreading the truth, central bankers will pay for their mortal sins one day.

[Anonymous No.18777528]

>>18772143
>If everyone in that group up and quit their jobs the economy would be completely collapse. Does that mean half of the population must suffer so the other half can prosper?

In USA that shit seems normal. Boomers and millennials are consoomer and don't want that system to change, even if they are wageslaves.

[Anonymous No.18777831]

>>18772477
Spot on. The southwest was lost to Mexico because they were willing to weld for half the cost even if it meant they had a worker lose a finger a day, and the corporations only cares about the cost.

>>18773637
This is also a huge issue. The business OF finance is bloated because people only care about money.

[Anonymous No.18777867]

for many the US is basically a 3rd world country with 1st world cost of living.

[Anonymous No.18777927]

>>18777338
>>18777484
>>18777228
>>18777283
>>18777193
>>18776213
>>18776856
>>18776856
>>18776928
>>18775686
>>18775589
>>18775584
>>18774795
>>18774778
>>18773868
>>18773876
>>18773899
>>18773802
>>18773756
>>18773733
>>18773698
>>18773670
>>18773586
>>18773582
>>18773438
>>18773390
>>18773345
>>18773309
>>18773264
>>18773247
>>18772969
>>18772643
>>18772542
>>18772477
>>18772143
>>18772155
You have been reported to the SEC. You are spreading false information which is leading to inflated stock prices. You will spend time in a federal prison. I reported you, and the SEC will be tracing your ISP and you will be prosecuted.

[Anonymous No.18778134]

>>18774574
>educated
Lol.

[Anonymous No.18778206]

>>18772366
>Keep living with parents
Lol, fuck you.

[Anonymous No.18778207]

it got shitter because moneyed interests (rich people and corporations) bought the government, and the supreme court made it legal. the people allowed it to happen because they're brainwashed by propaganda that makes them think this is good, and makes them oppose things that would help fix the problem

[Anonymous No.18778252]

>>18772375
>How the fuck is jefe picking strawberries going to have an effect on jobs like that?
Crime and not paying taxes while using tax payers funded programs.
Fucking commie.

[Anonymous No.18778414]

>>18773309
>the elite is the rich (leftist interpretation) or the jews (right-wing interpretation).
That's not how the left wing right wing party works.

[Anonymous No.18778426]

i feel like money shouldn't exist. in this world, evil sociopathic behavior is more profitable than good behavior. the right way doesn't pay. the way i see it money is just some fucked up floating iou system thats designed to keep people at the top with all the iou’s. to keep us working for them, always owing them. money is the carrot on the stick. the people at the top are greedy hoarding faggots yes, but the money system was never intended to empower anyone but the designers of the the system (elite bloodlines possibly even non humans). people live there entire lives trying to make it in a rat race that cant be won, the jokes on us. nobody is really “in this together”, greedy sociopath behavior is incentivized to the point of being normal. wake up people “modern society” is the most ingenious scam every created and were literally forced at gunpoint to take part in it. everyone in this thread shouting muh “ism” is the best ism. as someone pointed out earlier with he aztecs, smarter minds than us have already solved these problems. fair working models of governance exist, but they are a threat to the current elites power grab. in a fair system they wouldnt be able to exploit millions of people to secure their bloodlines well being for centuries. the elites just want you confused and stupid and arguing over which broken system to use. we need to create a new model of fair free society and band together to enforce it against the elites. what army will stop us if we are every army? the 99% needs to unite forces for the good of humankind. just my morning ramblins

[Anonymous No.18778446]

>>18772155
/thread

Very much related is the 1965 Hart-Cellar Act, which opened the gates to massive not-White immigration.

[Anonymous No.18778497]

[Anonymous No.18778562]

>>18778426
>i feel like money shouldn't exist
Good luck with that retard.

[Anonymous No.18778771]

>>18778426
the problem is that there is not better alternative.
don't get me wrong i hate people that idolize the current system and lash out at anyone pointing any flaws in it "muh commie muh this muh that".
and the lack of morals is the clear issue,there is simply no place for morals in capitalism.
just watch at the reaction of any normie when you try to suggest morals over money in any issue at all they freaking lash out like madmen because its what they are literately programmed to do.

[Anonymous No.18778948]

>>18777484
Give it a rest dude. This information is too high iq for biz

[Anonymous No.18779014]

>>18778771
One alternative to money is military strength.
In feudal times lords would keep their vassals loyal by having military strength.
Right now most governments are beholden to banks, so the banking system would have to be overthrown first and the (((bankers))) purged.

[Anonymous No.18779026]

>>18772143
Yes America has become less white
And therefore shittier

[Anonymous No.18779216]

>>18779014
feudal lords got jewed as hard as anyone else living right now.
((financiers)) always held the real power.

[Anonymous No.18779228]

>>18772143
Diversity

[Anonymous No.18779248]

[Anonymous No.18779438]

>>18772243
I moved from Los Angeles to Spain. Taxes are almost identical. Healthcare is genuinely better. They actually try to find the source of your issues and money just isn’t a factor. It’s hard to even get used to it after living in US and getting used to the 20 bills after any medical appointment. They treated this skin condition I had in 1 day which 3 years in the Us I never could get tests or answers. Keep in mind I had some really good insurance, 120 a month but mostly paid by my employer.

Not only that but people just enjoy life here. It’s not all about work. There aren’t a lot of high paying jobs but most of my friends would do better here.

[Anonymous No.18779466]

>>18772375
>How the fuck is jefe picking strawberries going to have an effect on jobs like that?

All labor is pulled down and there are plenty of spics in manufacturing and construction. They are able to compete better than natives because they are allowed to work for less than minimum wage (albeit illegally). Then they can take home their entire pay unlike US citizens.

Employers triple dip on illegals. They don't pay tax on them, they don't pay benefits on them and they pay them less. Plus there are all the other benefits of their employees not having any recourse at all.

[Anonymous No.18779534]

>>18773096
Or jews

[Anonymous No.18779779]

>>18773345
Agreed. Unless there is some sort of commonality between groups of people the society will fall apart. The commonality can be ethnic, religious, etc.
The migration of different ethic groups has always been and continues to be a cause of strife and can hasten the collapse of a civilization.

[Anonymous No.18780124]

>>18774629

It was literally the first reply, m8.

[Anonymous No.18780761]

>>18772238
This is the answer

[Anonymous No.18781667]

>>18774795
gadaffi wanted an african gold backed currency. they are playing chess.

[Anonymous No.18781676]

>>18772155
>>18772207
>>18773100
>>18773379
>>18773660
>>18774145
>>18776358
>>18776928
>>18776961
>>18779216
>>18779534
No, but keep crying about a small portion of the elites, goy. This free rent in your mind really helps me keep my costs down.

>>18773141
This is the truth.

[Anonymous No.18782051]

>>18772477
>Mexcrement send like 80% or more of their stolen money back to Mexico
Isn't that a good thing? The mexcrement's labor created strawberries for Americans, incraesing the supply of food. Then he sent the money to Mexico decreasing the amount of money chasing goods in America (deflation).

[Anonymous No.18782081]

>>18778426
Peter Joseph talks about this at length. The solution is a resource based economy.

[Anonymous No.18782287]

>>18772375
>My dad made $15 an hour working in a factory in 1977 with just his high school diploma.
... look at pic related. i have a masters, graduated top of my class, and got accepted for a phd but am currently working for $35/hr. Fuck this gay country, this gay economy, and this gay world. fuck the jews.

[Anonymous No.18782349]

>>18779438
based

[Anonymous No.18782386]

>>18772143
Ye. US has been in decline. Its all papered over

[Anonymous No.18782411]

>>18772243
Americans are taxed at 40% and get nothing in return

[Anonymous No.18782445]

>>18772143
capitalism, america was much greater when taxes were high

[Anonymous No.18782456]

>>18782287
72k/yr is still a good salary. Try having a B.S, multiple certifications, and still only getting 36k.

[Anonymous No.18782546]

>>18782349
Not to mention the food quality. American quality died in the 90s. Can’t believe I picked the poorest Western European country and having a 10x better life

[Anonymous No.18782611]

>>18772243
As if you can afford an apartment in munich if you pay 40%tax

[Anonymous No.18782697]

>>18772143
damn, I thought I was a loser for making $26/hr out of college

[Anonymous No.18782734]

>>18782456
That's rough, anon.

[Anonymous No.18782756]

>>18782546
Greece, portugal, spain??? Most of their housing is wayy cheaper for Americans but they get paid shit wages in the countries

[Anonymous No.18782783]

>>18772143
what, are you saying you don't want to be a serf?

[Anonymous No.18782791]

>>18775999
You don't understand it at all. They were such high trust that they expected everyone in the country to independently organize a grassroots defense against any tyrannical element that made its way into the new governing structure.

[Anonymous No.18782804]

>>18782756
Everything is cheap. I came here with my computers and iPhone which I won’t need to upgrade for a long time. My cost of living is trivial compared to LA. A waitressing job in Spain gets you better quality of life than one in LA. But most people here don’t work and complain about wages bc they can just stay with grandma and live off her pension.

[Anonymous No.18782835]

>>18772155
Checked & truthpilled.

[Anonymous No.18782867]

Most Americans are worthless. From your inner city Jamal to your suburban Karen to your rural JimBob, theyre mostly fucking worthless.

[Anonymous No.18782888]

>>18782804
I just got an interview here for a coding job that pays 60k. Most people here live off of 6-10k a year. So there are jobs. People just don’t want to develop skills bc lazy or they pay just cost of living.

When you go out a drink is 1-2 euro and you get a tapa with it. It’s not even comparable to La. you can really live on fucking nothing and have a great time, eat GOOD FOOD and be happy. Also no homeless or shit in the street. I can’t even imagine going back. I don’t even work now, just living off my savings which will last me 10 YEARS lol. In the meantime coding side projects but not too worried about revenue.

[Anonymous No.18782906]

>>18772143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5MKy06rDeE

There is solution jump on board.

[Anonymous No.18782913]

>>18772143
America is only shit for the white got niggers and the black niggers.

Immigrants and Jews who didn't succumb to the "I'm a good ol' blue collar" meme and actually got useful degrees at top colleges are thriving and making money

You should've studied harder in uni instead of fucking dogs silly little Anglo but now here you are dying in the streets

Pick my cotton, goy

[Anonymous No.18783004]

>>18782804
gotcha, Europe is weird Athens is genuinely cheaper than a medium sized city near the bulgarian/turkish border bcuz tourism and money laundering from the 3rd world lol.

[Anonymous No.18783013]

>>18772998
OK, talking about critical thinking,...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox2o3pf1iqc

[Anonymous No.18783014]

>Half the thread cites massive, rapid demographic change. Solution? Nationalism!

>Half the thread cites the evils of capitalism. Solution? Socialism!

You know realize that National Socialism is the one true solution.

[Anonymous No.18783063]

>>18782913
Anerica was built for 105 IQ+ midwits that can do some level of complex work.

But we keep importing the 3rd world so we’ll probably end up like Blade runner 2049 eventually without the cool tech, a dirty environment and 80IQ brainlets voting away everything.

Maybe the wealthy/intelligent will seastead cities or leave for space before than? idk

[Anonymous No.18783098]

>>18773379
Not all Jews are bad, dead ones are good...

[Anonymous No.18783347]

USA is a shithole

[Anonymous No.18783361]

>>18783063
If the wealthy go to space maybe we can take back control of earth. ah who am i kidding they will just control us from space and use their zog enforcers and ai to keep us in check

[Anonymous No.18783457]

I think we all agree that it's going downhill but what can you do? I mean do I just piss off to a better/cheaper country and work remote? I've honestly considered it but would hate to leave like that. Just sucks that it seems like after college you just slave away and work mindlessly. I say this but honestly I'm in a better STEM job than most which I couldn't imagine the people trying to feed a family on <40k.

>what do we do?

The american dream is still to make it and work for yourself but everything is in the way of that.

[Anonymous No.18783635]

>>18775999
Except that our government trusts us enough to own guns (for the time being) instead of removing them as a control measure under the guise of "public safety" like most cucked 1st world countries. Large systems are inherently inefficient and corrupt, i'd rather be personally in charge of my safety.

[Anonymous No.18783777]

>>18772366
>Keep living with parents a couple years after landing a 60k+/yr job

[Anonymous No.18783875]

>>18775699
quoting the right dubs

[Anonymous No.18784035]

>>18783457
>I mean do I just piss off to a better/cheaper country and work remote?

Why would you not? Remember it's really only America and western Europe that's rapidly degenerating into a shithole, while the rest of the world is *slowly* climbing in QoL.

Would you rather live in 3rd world America or 2nd world poland

[Anonymous No.18784071]

>>18778206
>>18783777
Multigenerational housing was common for centuries, all over the world, only the last 2-3 decades changed this, it is still a great way to consolidate and grow the wealth of you and your own family

but hey it seems kids, as well as their parents are becoming increasingly selfish or entitled and need "their own space" at the determent of their familys wealth

[Anonymous No.18784148]

>>18781676
>Boomer Jew
if you think the (((elites))) aren't responsible for the raising stagnation of wages, you're delusional. There is a reason these (((people))) were kicked out of over 100 countries. It will happen again. History will repeat.

[Anonymous No.18784166]

>>18782287
Link to that calculator?

[Anonymous No.18784168]

>>18784071
In those past good ol' days you also had women who weren't strong and independent and got their heads cut off for pulling bullshit.

Now living in a family home means dealing with Xanax addicted Boomer women who fuck blacks and dogs since they (((kicked))) the husband out of the home. Nobody has time for that shit

[Anonymous No.18784169]

>>18772238
Exactly. There are places you can go, some hidden gems, where this is still the case and it's immediately clear. For as much as a place like Germany gets meme'd on, there is no comparison between their comfy Bavarian cities and what we have here in the US. Our subways and public parks are literally trash piles in comparison, for just one example. These places have to stop following us down this dark path.

[Anonymous No.18784213]

>>18772238
Basically you're looking at the consequences of the revolt of capital in the 70s. When central banking took total control of inflation to ensure that return on investment was always better than growth. In order to keep such a suffocating society pliable and disorganized, first you destroy/cripple the existing institutions like churches and unions, then you introduce mass immigration, then you promote cultural Marxism to ensure people bicker amongst themselves. Eventually the immigration becomes an excuse "we need it for the economy". The concept of state loyalty becomes replaced with just trying to get by. And everyone is so preoccupied with their own struggles that they don't notice what's happened.

[Anonymous No.18784223]

>>18773582
>There exists NO highly multicultural state that is either a superpower or socially and economically successful.

What about Singapore? I think they make it work because the government is highly authoritarian.

[Anonymous No.18784261]

>>18784223
If you need a hyper authoritarian government to make a multiculti society work that's just more proof that multiculti doesnt occur naturally and doesn't work without oppressive force. And even then, we don't know how long it will "work"

[Anonymous No.18784277]

>>18784166
>https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

[Anonymous No.18784486]

>>18784035
The only reason I haven't is because my family has lived in a certain area for many generations. I feel like I should stay. But realistically I have no obligations here and just have been banking my paychecks.

[Anonymous No.18784657]

>>18772143
jews

[Anonymous No.18784966]

>>18775999
Imagine being this low iq.
Guns would be to defend from you disgusting kikes. That’s why kikes have to subvert and don’t try to invade a nation from the outside.

[Anonymous No.18784992]

[Anonymous No.18785121]

>>18784966
Hilarious. That's why mutts invade everyone else yet play the victim?

[Anonymous No.18785311]

>>18777927
eat me faggot

[Anonymous No.18785804]

>>18772143
Makes me want to rob a bank.

¯¯̿̿¯̿̿'̿̿̿̿̿̿̿'̿̿'̿̿̿̿̿'̿̿̿)͇̿̿)̿̿̿̿ '̿̿̿̿̿̿\̵͇̿̿\=(•̪̀●́)=o/̵͇̿̿/'̿̿ ̿ ̿̿

[Anonymous No.18786082]

>>18783777
60k is like 40k after taxes. Not much really

[Anonymous No.18786163]

>>18775999
Have you got a license for that post?

[Anonymous No.18786217]

>>18784992
Fug

[Anonymous No.18786675]

>>18784992
>ends with vote republican every election
How about no lol

[Anonymous No.18787693]

>>18772143
There will be riots by the end of this year or the next. No way the economy would become just "normal" again so quickly. The Feb-March dump was just the economy showing its cracks with the Fed putting bandaids on them. A much larger dump in the stock market will come.

[Anonymous No.18788184]

>>18772143
They live paycheck to paycheck because they are bad with money.
I went from 30K a year to 60K in just 2 years.
Bought my 1st house at age 24.
Poor people are poor because they are 80iq stupid fucks

[Anonymous No.18789527]

>>18772143
The average person I know makes about $24,000 a year. And I know 50+ people. Though, rural redneck Virginia isn't exactly known for it's well-to-do citizens.

[Anonymous No.18789568]

>>18772207
>Jews
This. Before Jews took control over everything America was prosperous. Anyone who hasn't yet learned that /pol/ was right is a pathetic retard at this point. It's 2020.

[Anonymous No.18789585]

FUCK JANNIES AND FUCK JEWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp4kuEQu2-g

[Anonymous No.18789601]

>>18775999
>America was never a high trust society
Stop lying Kike. I grew up in it.

[Anonymous No.18789669]

>>18787693
Unemployment benefits run out end of july. Many will go hungry before then. Mass evictions will occur as rent/mortgage moratoriums dont actually forgive monthly payments, so they will all come due at once. And forget about central and south America; they are utterly and completely fucked.

[Anonymous No.18789813]

>>18789601
Probably some New York kike.

[Anonymous No.18789840]

>60% of americans live paycheck to paycheck
when haven't they
>50% of americans make less than $30k a year
when haven't they
>44% of workers make less than a living wage
when haven't they
>18772238
he said of every wave of immigration since the 15th century

this board needs flags and a separate way to identify doomer marginals with zero human capital

[Anonymous No.18790521]

Genetic warfare. A few bloodlines have wealth beyond any monetary description. They always seek to improve their slave stock, so they mutilate the cattle with a powerful dose of diversity. Less rebellious, better consumers. Big brown 85 iq blob. All the same. No national identity to ever arise and challenge your bloodline's status at the top. Just stupid crabs in a an empty kfc bucket. Hitler saw how they wished to annihilate us.

[Anonymous No.18791672]

>>18772238

[Anonymous No.18791712]

>>18781676
You kikes are filthy people.

[Anonymous No.18791739]

>>18789527
south virginia? I live near you. unironically way better employment opportunity near me though.

[Anonymous No.18791820]

>>18783014
Don't forget all the posts waving the red herring of the federal reserve in an attempt to distract from disastrous social and immigration policy. It works on autistic libertarians who chase the federal reserve distraction down the goldbug rabbit hole.
In reality, the people behind the Fed are the same as the people behind social and immigration policy. It's those goddamned kikes and their Anglo-Zionist old money blue blood Boston Brahmin Ivy League Skull & Bones lackeys.

[Anonymous No.18791824]

>>18772187
Whiter than you Ahmed!

[Anonymous No.18792005]

>>18772160
>blames women instead of capitalists and politicians
The absolute state of wagies

[Anonymous No.18792090]

>>18784035
There's nowhere to run. 2nd world Poland will rapidly succumb to shitskin immigration as soon as the QoL of Western Europe drops below Poland's.
The groundwork is already being laid. Look up Simon Mol. Nigger literally secretly gave AIDS to hundreds of Polish women while being a famous poet (aka a poet promoted by ZOG). When it was revealed that he had AIDS, hundreds of Polish women took to the streets to protest and demand that he be punished for infecting them.
His famous poem: "Polish Goddess"
Then - as the Moon lit the path
of the beautiful Goddess
illuminating the darkness of the night
two tears ran down her left eye
ending their journey
burying all the nightmares
healing wounds foisted upon me
and upon my Brothers
by those like her.

[Anonymous No.18792122]

>>18784992
>vote Trump in 2020 and republican in every election thereafter
>J-woke
MIGApedes are race-traitors.

[Anonymous No.18792252]

>>18772143
>60% of americans live paycheck to paycheck
I wonder how much the number has grown over time.
Probably not much.

[Anonymous No.18792291]

>>18772238
I thought you had your designated containment board for this shit?

[Anonymous No.18792361]

>>18773223
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
>malta higher than norway
>italy is way up there
>germany is at the bottom
lol look at different countries there, i don't know how they count but thats such bullshit.

[Anonymous No.18792379]

>>18773653
so pretty much everyone?

[Anonymous No.18792405]

>>18777155
>>18777193
wtfhappenedin1971 DOT COM

we gave control of our money to a small group of people. Everyone has their own interest at heart, thats natural, but when we traded a sound money system for fiat currency controlled by bankers, we entrusted them with our prosperity. It used to be the case that over your working years, you could save up some of the money you got paid in your gold-backed currency for your retirement, see its purchasing power grow and pass some down to your children. Now you have to be an expert "investor" just to see it keep pace with (((inflation))).
Whether you blame "the rich", "the jews" or whoever, you can see that the problem is trusting others (with no loyalty to you or your country) with your interests, trusting that they wont devalue your currency you save value in (or what little amount of currency you have left after tax).

transition back to hard money and workers who make an honest living can see their savings maintain and even increase in value over their lifetimes.

bitcoin unironically fixes this

[Anonymous No.18792437]

>>18774342
>rationally like human beings
>>18774431
>The browning of society op.
ah yes

[Anonymous No.18792488]

>>18792405
>bitcoin unironically fixes this
how

[Anonymous No.18792524]

>>18777286
coronavirus and trump's handling of it is taking care of them

[Anonymous No.18792552]

>>18779438
>actually try to find the source of your issues and money just isn’t a factor
what is a factor then? they work for free just like the janny?

[Anonymous No.18792866]

>>18783635
you're on the right track but you should understand that the government would destroy the 2nd amendment the second it had a chance. the only reason they can't is because, well, we're all armed. They're trying to chip away at it slowly instead, so buy enough ARs, magazines, and ammo for you, your children, and your grandchildren. Fuck the government to hell.

[Anonymous No.18792885]

>>18772143
>government grows bigger
>life gets shittier
makes you think

[Anonymous No.18792930]

>>18772160
>>>18772143
why was the first reply to this thread deleted?

[Anonymous No.18793081]

Holy shit the muttism illness is real.

[Anonymous No.18793342]

>>18782888
>have a great time, eat GOOD FOOD and be happy.
I don't even know what it's like to live like that.
I started traveling about ten years ago when I was 20 and it became just about a dream to be able to move to thailand or something and just be able to do something besides work and be miserable.

Now I have the bachelors degree in a tech major, IT certs, almost a 100k salary but people around are still miserable and I still don't enjoy life. wtf man

[Anonymous No.18793487]

>>18792930
no racism outside /b/ according to janjans

[Anonymous No.18793501]

>>18793487
how is that racist?
there's not meant to be porn here either but they allow that

[Anonymous No.18793513]

>>18792930
Damn you're right. I remember this.

[Anonymous No.18793669]

>>18793501
stop asking questions. shut it down janny

[Anonymous No.18793679]

>>18792885
>country grows increasingly non-White
>country gets shittier
Really makes you think. Meanwhile authoritarian Japan is a nice place to live, while anarchic Somalia is a shithole. The quality of the people is many times more important than the size of the state.

[Anonymous No.18794041]

>>18792885
>corporations grow bigger
>life gets shittier
makes you think

[Anonymous No.18794124]

>>18792488
the newfags are back, bull run imminent

[Anonymous No.18794244]

>>18792488
>transition back to hard money
gold would do, but its drawbacks lead to centralization. Bitcoin means citizens can individually opt in to this monetary system without relying on a central party to guard their coins the currency is based on.

[Anonymous No.18794323]

Super-PACS

We have a system where corporations can dump unlimited money into political campaigns, and now we got politicians that serve those guys.

Call it the elites, call it the jews, call it the neoliberals and neocons, call it crony capitalism, call it socialism for the rich ect ect, the whatever you decide is causing the ills in our society, the vehicle of which it happens is the system of legalized bribery that lets it happen.

Get rid of the neoliberal politicians and replace them with people who will get rid of Super-PACs, and the system is fixed. It's that simple, Mitch McConnel and Nancy Pelosi and their cronies must go.

[Anonymous No.18794350]

>import pajeets/mexican ...
>export jobs to china so kikes can make more money
>why anerica got shittier
it's really a mystery

[Anonymous No.18794443]

>>18792930
discord hypertrannies

[Anonymous No.18794652]

>>18792090
I fapped to this desu

[Anonymous No.18794691]

>>18794652
kys cuck

[Anonymous No.18794719]

>Why has American gotten shittier?

Open capital markets, and anyone who tells you otherwise has an agenda.

[Anonymous No.18794760]

>>18794719
(((Who))) opened the capital markets?

[Anonymous No.18794781]

>>18794760

Doesn't matter who, get rid of the fucking super-PACs or you'll never stop them.

[Anonymous No.18794834]

>>18794760
Perfidious Albion, as a matter of fact. The opening of capital markets was led by WASPs in the US.

[Anonymous No.18794855]

>>18794719
Open markets would fix a lot of it. It's the fake and crony markets that cause it.

[Anonymous No.18794878]

>>18794855
Wrong. Dead wrong, in every sense of the phrase.

[Anonymous No.18794888]

>>18779438
>actually try to find the cause blah blah
This is how you know its a larp. European and canadian healthcare is SHIT for anything other than primary care. Come to the primary care for a cough? Get diagnosed with something. That doesnt work? Lets try this drug. Still have the cough? Oh well, I cant do shit for you and good luck ever seeing a pulmonologist because they almost exclusively see people dying of lung cancer. In murica you go to the pulmonologist and fuck the old hobo dying of lung cancer because you can pay for it.
I can believe that LA is an absolute shithole healthcare wise though

[Anonymous No.18794892]

>>18772143
the central bank. the central bank is owned by the world bank look up byrne on bitchute

[Anonymous No.18794918]

>>18772143
>Does that mean half of the population must suffer so the other half can prosper?
https://youtu.be/wM6exo00T5I
name of the game, take the money from your clients pocket and transfer that into your pocket
all you have to do in america to become rich is just exploit the middle class.

[Anonymous No.18794919]

>>18794855

Won't happen happen if super-PACs exist, only crony capitalism. We gotta print money guys brrrr.

[Anonymous No.18794948]

>>18772143
Corporate bootlickers wanting to die on the factor floor while voting against their best interests because they think they'll make it rich. The rich are no longer invested in this country. We have moved to private everything and demolition by neglect of Government and systems. The rich are much more concerned with what their friends are up to in the countries than what is happening within the border. People say things like 'No one's ever helped me and I was on welfare and foodstamps.' Both social programs and for the betterment of society. You raise the floor, you can raise the ceiling. Us vs Them, taught to punch down not up. But it's always been this way and for now we're still moving upward making progress. Maybe another couple thousand years and multiple generations and it'll maybe even be Okay. OR we kill ourselves with all our weapons, some plague rolls across the earth undoing all the deeds of Mankind on the little silly rock.

[Anonymous No.18795009]

>>18794888
this guy has anecdotal evidence. you have nothing.

[Anonymous No.18795059]

>>18795009
I have anecdotal evidence from all my friends and their parents that are doctors :^)

[Anonymous No.18795155]

>>18792361
That’s funny I remember specifically talking with a student from multa about her 2 euro per hour summer job she was going to do while I was going back to my $25 an hour summer job kek.

[Anonymous No.18795157]

>>18794834
Really? Interesting. And yet WASPs ruled America with a protectionist fist that protected the native labor for 100 years. It was only after massive jewish migration in the 1890's that WASPs started to open capital markets.
>>18794781
>jews need superPACs to stay in power.
They didn't use superPACs to get into power. superPACs are simply one head of the jewish hydra of financial control.

[Anonymous No.18795187]

>>18795157
>They didn't use superPACs to get into power. superPACs are simply one head of the jewish hydra of financial control.

Good luck fixing any sort of financial controll without getting rid of super-PACs first.


>hurr durr why does it matter who controls our politicians

It's what you sound like.

[Anonymous No.18795535]

>>18772143
You know why, everyone knows why.

[Anonymous No.18795735]

>>18779026
Like literally