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>> No.18748599

>https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/28/ford-f-earnings-q1-2020.html
>Ford expects an adjusted pretax loss of $5 billion during the second quarter as the company grapples with the fallout from the coronavirus pandemic
>The automaker’s total revenue, which includes auto sales and financing, slid 14.9% to $34.3 billion in the first quarter.
>Ford burned through $2.2 billion in cash during the quarter, a number Wall Street is closely watching.

Stock today

>5.38 +0.21 (+4.06%)

>> No.18748601

I don’t understand what I’m talking about and I’m long volatility bros!

>> No.18748632

>USO reverse split
>Check account, had 16 shares that should become 2 shares
>Price went up to reflect reverse split but my account still says I have 16 shares
>1500% account increase
Holy fuck should I sell? If the sale goes through before they do the split to my shares, will they "correct" it later?

>> No.18748633

so when is oil going to break down again?

>> No.18748636

>>18748599
Clown market.
I’m gonna hold amd for a bit before I sell off. If this shit goes up im gonna emp Wall Street so those fucking algorithms can die.

>> No.18748638
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So theoretically you could completely divorce yourself emotionally from stocks, just go by numbers, buy and sell with extremely short stop losses and moderate ~10% gains, and it seems possible you could probably make good money over enough time.

One of the problems though it seems would be having to account for negative fluctuations right? Sometimes a stock takes a small dip before it moons, you never know, so your stop loss would have to have enough room to moderately account for that, but that also opens up the possibility of more loss, which could potentially tilt the whole thing into driving loses?

Is this what day traders do?

>> No.18748650

>>18748632
no they will pay you and cant refund it cuz u were a genius to sell at this time

>> No.18748652
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18748652

>a solar flare wipes out all life on earth
>stock market reaches all time high

>> No.18748656

>>18748632
Probably be fixed by opening, you’re not going to get free money from a reverse split.

>>18748636
>>18748599
I’m so glad thoughtful lads like you are allowed to manage their own portfolios.

>> No.18748659
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18748659

4am gang rise up. Definitely gmi.

>> No.18748658
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18748658

Up 65% on HAL

>> No.18748685

>>18748659
WAIT A SECOND
CATS DONT HAVE THUMBS

>> No.18748691

Every day I feel good about longing ET

>> No.18748695

>>18748659
How do I short funny yellow dog

>> No.18748698

>>18748656
Tell me how the clown market isn’t real.
Boeing are haemorrhaging customers and will have criminal suits about the 737MAX and they’re up 3%.

>> No.18748700
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Hope you all have a healthy green day frens

>> No.18748715
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18748715

>Futures gapping up again
good lord I'm getting concerned, it's too good to be true
>>18748659
Hello fellow Mountain Time chad

>> No.18748716

>>18748652
Bullish for lean hogs

>> No.18748719

>>18748691
comfy af brah

>> No.18748730

>>18748679
thats what i mean, If anyone else did that on any other show and they wouldve ruined the company.

The traders dumped and kids bought so it dipped but then went higher.

I completly agree, but i guess i feel like creepy CEOs with weird tics are normalised now so he gets a pass.

>> No.18748736

>>18748656
Then please be so kind, with your at least 50 IQ, to elaborate why FORD is doing anything besides crabbing or shitting its bed?

>> No.18748769
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18748769

Good morning /smg/! Are we selling yet, or letting this insane bull week run?

>> No.18748770
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>>18748700
You too fren

>> No.18748784

>>18748769
Where can I find a girl like that? You know, one with a vagina?

>> No.18748802

>>18748652
Can only go up from there, very bullish.

>> No.18748805

Any thoughts on this?
>>18748735

tldr:

>ICE Brent June futures expiring tomorrow, derivatives (CME etc) expiring today
>Brent is also deliverable contract, but unlike WTI, Brent can be cash-settled
>Brent cash settlement price is calculated based on physical Brent delivery prices, price given by Dated Brent Price
>Dated Brent has been at significantly lower levels than the Futures
>This price will get corrected, just like the WTI Futures tanked. Though, Brent is NOT going to negative territory

>> No.18748807

>>18748784
You can't, it's called art.

>> No.18748810
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>>18748784
You never will

>> No.18748814
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>>18748599
The market is going to pump the hell out of -25% GDP isn't it.

>> No.18748857
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18748857

here we go again

>> No.18748864
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>>18748807
I don’t like your attitude

>>18748810
I don’t like your honesty

>> No.18748867

i need NET to go to $30 for my exit... I am too greedy, I also really wanna get rid of NET

>> No.18748877

I am ruined.
I didn't buy the dip

>> No.18748878

When are Boeing earnings?

>> No.18748881

>>18748805
Short_oil

>> No.18748893

When are commodities most active?

>> No.18748896
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18748896

Steadily pumping. Let’s hope the DOW follows suit

>> No.18748934
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18748934

The moment I started trading the price action immediately contracts and crabs.

>> No.18748952
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>>18748934
That’s because you’re a faggot. Faggot

>> No.18748964

>>18748805
Can anyone tell one reason why this is not legit?

Oil went up like 20% yesterday without any real reason in oil markets, exept FOMO over Saudi cuts, that are not necessary to cover the demand drop anyway

>> No.18748987
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what a beast

>> No.18748998
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>>18748964
Hmm. It’s all speculation anon. Everyone wants to buy the bottom. There won’t be any more rhyme or reason behind the big pump coming. Remember states are already opening back up

>> No.18749003

>>18748769
I'd like a gf (male) like that as well.

>> No.18749014

Not gonna lie, i'm loving this coronavirus shit. I hope it never goes away.

>> No.18749018
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>>18749003
OUT OUT OUT

>> No.18749027
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>> No.18749050
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18749050

NONONONONONONO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.18749052

>>18749014
It's been fun, minus these "hey let's start tracking and tracing everyone" ideas that are popping up.

>> No.18749058

>>18748998
>Hmm. It’s all speculation anon. Everyone wants to buy the bottom. There won’t be any more rhyme or reason behind the big pump coming. Remember states are already opening back up

*SOME* states opening up, but it's going to take fucking long time for travel and industry to recover. Internationally only few European countries are slowly opening up but oil demand is not going to pick up any time soon. Remember the global oil demand was down like 3x as much as OPEC was going to cut. Even if it picks up, there is a fuckton of oil still stored dampening the price.

>> No.18749059

>>18748658
I only bought a few at 7 dollars, should've bought a ton more. Ah well, at least I picked up a bunch of Airbus at 50 euros

>> No.18749063
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18749063

Any Niobros? It's comfy today

>> No.18749067

>>18748934
Place 3 way overlapping orders, fucking inhouse algo manages to crab inbetween.

>> No.18749069

>>18749063
Never putting my money in chink pump and dumps unless I somehow have inside information

>> No.18749073

>>18748998
Everyone "wanting to buy the bottom" is exactly the reason oil is over the real price and exactly why you should short it before the futures are traded against the real price.

>> No.18749074

Why is fro losing money this makes no sense bros.

>> No.18749098
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>>18749058
I’m not disputing anything you are saying. I’m just pointing out that people are ready to buy. Their trigger finger is getting itchy. Many first time investors see opportunity to make some dough.

I personally believe we will be OK.

>> No.18749099

>>18748896
Just because everything sold off at the same time doesn't mean crypto is now going to follow the dow. I think that will become more apparent.

>> No.18749103

>CNBC struggling to understand why GE is up

>> No.18749132

>>18749069
Here's your inside information: Winnie will never allow it to fail

>> No.18749137
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>>18749099
Welp. We will see. Lately crypto has been following the Dow. We will see how long they trend continues

>> No.18749149

GIVE ME YOUR BEST TANKER STOCKS NOW

>> No.18749156

>>18749132
He’s not magic. He can’t keep that pile of shit up forever anon

>> No.18749175

>>18749132
BABA is too big to fail. Nio is not

>> No.18749178

>>18749149
TSLA

>> No.18749184

people still optimistic for NAT?

>> No.18749193

>>18749137
>>18749099
the correlation is only partial, they dump in sync but rise differently

>> No.18749203

>>18749156
>makes objectively better cars than TSLA
>pile of shit

>>18749175
It's not just about the size

>> No.18749228

https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/20/04/n15903841/ase-technology-holding-co-ltd-reports-unaudited-consolidated-financial-results-for-the-first-quart

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

>> No.18749234

>>18749103
>CNBC discover the clown market

>> No.18749242

redpill me on crude ETFs. can they collapse?

>> No.18749270
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18749270

Buttcoin picking up pace

>> No.18749285

CCL chads closing in on 100% gains after we followed Saudi money, lmao at anime posting tranny faggots who didn't believe

>> No.18749297

Hope AMD goes down, but even with losses, shit will go up 4%

>> No.18749301

>>18749063
picked up 1000 shares a few weeks ago for shits and giggles

I read this nugget today
>https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/20/04/g15903817/nio-announces-entry-into-definitive-agreements-for-investments-in-nio-china

china, you aight

>> No.18749329

>>18749242
man and I thought I was retarded

>>18749285
CCL chad reporting for duty, only at 23% though.Came in at $12.46

>> No.18749347
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>>18749193
the dump in sync was only secondary to hedge funds needing liquidity NOW in early march. The real tell this was a liquidity issue was gold, equities, crypto, and bonds sold off all at the same time. BTC is likely gonna follow gold now. Personally even to the cyrpto averse i would recommend 5% of your portfolio in a combination of BTC/Link/ETH (tezos and monero are further diversification).

>> No.18749357

>>18749270
This is smg keep that childish crypto trash scam out of here.

>> No.18749366
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HAL is almost at 10...fuck

>> No.18749372

>>18749357
I’m not suggesting you buy buttcoin halfwit. I’m suggesting that the market might make similar gains today.

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18749375

holy shit, how can one anime loving big tiddy goth gf fucking man be so based

>> No.18749377

>>18749372
SPY kids are we dumping today or crabbing? i feel like we are going to dump

>> No.18749382

>>18749347
Im like 20-30% creep toe, havent bought enough at the lows, shouldve gone 50% tbqh

>> No.18749389

>>18749366
I bought at the bottom and sold in the middle like a retard

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>>18749389
I bought the bottom and shorted the middle.

>> No.18749412

Boeing selling tons of new bonds.

>> No.18749429

>>18749375
>big tiddy goth gf fucking man
he does not

>> No.18749433

fellas I am considering dumping 5% of my portfolio into Boeing after the earnings call at 1030 this morning. Am I making a mistake?

Some of you may have seen me ask this before but I want to get multiple opinions.

>> No.18749438

I am financially ruined

>> No.18749450

>>18749404
>>18749389
Im also retarded.

But im now long so it means a crash is imminent, bogdanoffs will not tolerate wagie success

>> No.18749462

>>18749450
Remember, you can’t bet wrong everytime. It’s impossible.

>> No.18749463

>>18749366
i did the same, bought in the 6 range and sold at the mid 7s

>> No.18749470

>>18749450
we will crab in order to obliterate options gamblers

>> No.18749472

>>18749433
Depends if by 5% you mean 1 share or 100

>> No.18749488

>>18749433
Boeings worst skeletons havn't come out yet

>> No.18749496

>>18749470
Bears got fucked first, now it's options degenerates turn. Once they've been all liquidated it will dump again for the bulls.

>> No.18749500

I'm close to getting enough money saved up for a 20% down payment on the upper ceiling on a future house. Should I take it out and put it in a "high" interest savings account or keep the money in and hope that it doesn't collapse between now and finding a house.

>> No.18749511

>>18749500
hope always works always

>> No.18749514
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18749514

STONKS ONLY GO UP BRRR BRRR BRRR POWELL BRRRR BRRR

>> No.18749522

>>18749149
DHT

>> No.18749524

>>18749500
Play it safe man

>> No.18749528

>>18749472
closer to 100

>> No.18749532
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>>18749347
LINK kek, but completely agree on eth and btc part (im also crypto averse)

>>18749433
I'm swinging it if hits 134 on good conditions

>> No.18749536

>>18749375
>can't elect elon musk cause hes african
fuck

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>>18749514
nooo you can't kill the money printer nooo

>> No.18749538

>>18749524
Figured as much. I'll take it out.

>> No.18749540

>>18749470
no you didnt, you bought high and sold mid same as everyone else.

Anything else and you'd be a lambo or broke

>> No.18749548
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18749548

OIL PUMPING

>> No.18749553

>>18749412
tell me something new
>>18749488
like wat

>> No.18749558

>>18749375
lol, cuckholding simp.
Basedboi but holy fuck he's going to get smashed in a month or two

>> No.18749559

>>18749488
what type of skellingtons?

>> No.18749562

>>18749488
source or at least give me something to google

>> No.18749572

>>18749536
He could be governor of California

>> No.18749575
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18749575

it's all going to be alright today

>> No.18749577

>>18749562
>haven't come out yet
>WAT SHUD I GUGGLE

>> No.18749585

oil can only go up as states and world is coming back. good time to go long

>> No.18749592

>>18749528
I'd say absolutely then, so long as you can afford to hold it for a few years

>> No.18749593

>>18749366
Bought under 7 sold at breakeven. Bought back in under 9 and going to just hold.

>> No.18749595

BA probably goes up with earnings, jan/feb are basically unscathed and the first half of March was probably fine. Everyone’s pricing in a huge loss so I’m expecting a surprise

>> No.18749602

How long do I have to wait for T212 verification ? Are they waiting for some shekels for express service? Just fucking look at my selfie fuckers

>> No.18749605

how do i bypass the 25k limit?

>> No.18749621

>>18749347
>BTC
>BCH
>BSV
>Bitcoin Gold
>Bitcoin Diamond
Everytime there is a hard fork you can bet whatever "value" the new shitcoin has is sucked out of BTC and sucks wind out of the space cuz people see the whole thing as a cash-in scam.
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS NOT A MONEY PRINTER SCAM

>> No.18749626

>>18749592
Why would the percentage of my funds taht I am investing matter? 5% is 5%?

I put in 3k last week and am considering doing more than that this morning if it really dives.

>> No.18749627

>>18749063
will nio rise?

>> No.18749628

>>18749605
depositing 25k into your account

or sign up with a shady offshore broker

>> No.18749629

>>18749605
make shekels via buying nflx puts

>> No.18749643

>>18749628
yes but which broker?

>> No.18749651

>>18749643
Just use a cash account to daytrade

>> No.18749652

>>18749627
Probably

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WHY DID OIL STOP PUMPING?

>> No.18749664

>>18749657
Better question for you. Why did oil pumped in the first place?

>> No.18749669

>>18749605
Buy and sell ETFs only. When you're bullish buy something like SPY and when you want to go flat don't sell the SPY, buy its inverse SH instead. Then the next day sell both. Leveraged ETFs also all have inverses.

>> No.18749677

>>18749553
737 max will not regain certification without redesign, regardless of what boeing try and say.

No amount of bribery will convince a pilot to lie for boeing to passengers because they have a new "simulator" to train people on faulty planes that fall out of the sky

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6653-internal-boeing-communications/606e3fda752a935bc0df/optimized/full.pdf#page=84

Thats just some leaks.. theyre full of proof of misconduct over decades. Let alone the stuff that hasnt been released.

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EURONAV Chads?

>> No.18749691

>>18749669
Haven't been a poorfag in a while so I forgot this one. If you are trading options and you buy SPY calls at the 290 strike price and you're ready to get out, instead of selling your 290 and getting a day trade just sell the next strike price down for the same date. It won't exactly flatten you but it'll be close enough. Then get rid of both the next day

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>USO
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?

>> No.18749699

Is there any play that isn't just a gamble at this point? I feel completely lost. Somebody give me some ideas here, I have nothing.

>> No.18749701

>>18749562
>>18749577
>>18749559

>>18749677
sorry it took me a while i was having dinner, i cant give you anything non-public

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>>18749605
stop being poor

>>18749657
I decided to take a break

>> No.18749703

>>18748735
is this shit legit?

>> No.18749712

>>18749677
>737 max will not regain certification without redesign, regardless of what boeing try and say.
old news and brized in :DDDD

>> No.18749715

>>18748632
>>18748656
I actually made $800 off of SEED when it reverse split back in 2018. My initial investment was $200. I was holding an uneven amount of shares in relation to the split. No idea if that mattered though.

>> No.18749726

>>18749678
>EURONAV Chads?
how to know if the ships are full or empty? its not like they can build a tanker in a week

>> No.18749727

>>18749693
Reverse split. It's not really up 700%

>> No.18749729

>>18749693
didnt they have a reverse split 1:8?

>> No.18749731

>>18749677
Im the same poster as TESLA CONSPIRICY faggot that was here earlier btw so what i say comes with table salt

>> No.18749739

>>18749693
? they just did 8:1 R/s

>> No.18749744

>>18749703
Just took a 2k profit of a buy, Set a sell for 5k and just closed 2k making another short now

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18749748

How retarded am I for shorting US 10Y Futures?

>> No.18749751

>>18749669
sorry i know what ETFs and SPYs are but what's the purpose of buying these inverses (what are they) and what relation do they have to the etfs and spys?

>> No.18749753

>>18749701
ok, it's at least something

>> No.18749757

>>18749748
bigly

>> No.18749768

>>18749727
>>18749729
>>18749739
OK thanks I didn't know, I only look at big lines

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>>18749726
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=9235268

find each of their ships
if they're doing stuff like this its full

>> No.18749775

>>18749726
Right now if it floats, its full.

>> No.18749779

are we ever going to have a correction?

>> No.18749780

>>18749712
it is, but its not over.
What do you think the criminal probes will find in the assembley line?

What do you think the debris probes will find?

>> No.18749782

>>18749657
Retard. Why the fuck would any institution buy oil when their inventories are full?
The only thing "pumping" oil is retard speculators.

>> No.18749783

Anybody got a link to the CNBC livestream. My usual source has let me down today
>>18749751
If SPY gains 1% its inverse SH loses 1%. The inverse ETFs are the short version of whatever their counterpart happens to be. For SPY its SH, for TQQQ its SQQQ, SPXL has SPXS and so on. They are rebalanced daily so their perfect for flattening a daily position without getting nicked for a day trade

>> No.18749812

>>18749753
just google the investigations.
Look at the released reports and investigations so far.

What will these investigations of boeing find?
(sure as hell wont find them innocent of all charges)

>> No.18749818

I could really go for some big bull cock today.

>> No.18749832

>>18749780
>What do you think the debris probes will find?
I cared about this in 2018 and after crashes. But clearly before crashes world did not care about Boeing shit planes like I do and after crashes US was cucky enough not to prosecute and CEO calmly walked away with golden chute.
After all that stonk was holding months bcs apparently plane manufacturer without flagship is absolutely fine who gives a shit what they do.
So right now after all that did (not) happen I just dont see any BA fuckups like this be relevant and BA shall continue to receive federal or market support

>> No.18749862

>>18749621
hash rate shows you which the market prefers.

>>18749532
There is a considerable amount of shitposting and intentional FUD around the project (especially here) but any interview with Sergey should help dispel it. Good link threads are largely a thing of the past. Heres a short presentation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn5f3yN3lr0

>>18749382
Thats a healthy percentage.

>> No.18749865

>>18749832
So you are long on BA?

I can't see it dying when it is critical to the military

>> No.18749869

>>18749832
I understand, but i feel like the camels back will be broken after the crisis, theres only so much money can be poured into unions without them crippling companies historically speaking

>> No.18749879

>>18749865
why was there a raytheon merger then?
what is boeing irreplaceable in?

>> No.18749878

>>18749865
Im not, Im too smart for my own good and cannot long BA in this state, but yeah, its gonna be socialized before it goes bankrupt me thinks.
Im definitely not shorting BA thats for sure.
Healthy no pos here

>> No.18749901

>Tesla stock gets pumped before earnings
>whales buy what they see as a rally
>once shorts collect, whales keep the price high
I think the Tesla crash will be from something stupid, like Elon switching to SpaceX and letting someone else take the reins.

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>>18748700
You too my fren

>> No.18749907

>>18749879
Aircraft manufacture......

>> No.18749929

>>18749901
>and letting someone else take the reins.
he just tied himself to the chair and cannot be replaced now

>> No.18749933

>>18749693
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.18749939

>>18749865
>I can't see it dying when it is critical to the military
It might "recover" with GIBBS but its stock price won't.

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I guess new traders don't appreciate or know about P/E, Price/Book, etc.

>> No.18749946

>Boeing posts quarterly loss of $641 million

>Boeing is facing a dismal market for new planes with coronavirus and shelter-in-place orders keeping travelers off airplanes.
The company is expected to post a loss in the quarter and lower revenue.
>Boeing’s airline customers have said they expect to shrink because of the pandemic’s impact on demand.

BAIL OUT FAST - THE FREE MARKET NEEDS BOEING

>> No.18749949

BA seems like its good time to jump in

>> No.18749950

>>18749907
ok so youre responce is that they arnt..

just wait to read the earnings report for the short term.
investigations for the long term.

downturn in sales and no customers.. not a good outlook for a long ass time

>> No.18749961

>>18749677
737 max is something that bothers me a lot. As it is, it's a perfectly safe plane for competent first world pilots. Basically American and European (white) airlines. Two pretty shit airlines with a history of sketchy safety culture crashed them. If that never happened, Southwest would have been flying them up until now without any issue. Did Boeing fuck up? Ya of course they did. They hired Pajeet to code something very important. However from a pilot's perspective it's not really an unsafe airplane. Just my opinion as a pilot anyway for all that matters.

>> No.18749962

>>18749945
am I the only one who has the urge to stay away or bet against robinhoodies?

>> No.18749982

>>18749770
A more reliable indicator would be the ship's draft. A loaded Suezmax tanker should have a draft of about 20m and a loaded VLCC should have a draft of around 22.5m

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>>18749946
Boeing has demand for retrofitting their death traps into cargo planes.

>> No.18749992

>>18749693
WE'RE GONNA FUCKING MAKE IT OIL BROS

>> No.18750000

>>18749945
You don't need P/E when credit is stupid easy to get for the forseeable future. The interest rate stayed 0 from 2008 to 2015 and took until the end of 2018 to reach 2.5.
You can be another Uber for a LONG time.

>> No.18750007

>>18749992
yes but not now, now is short time :3

>> No.18750009

>>18749945
people who think stocks make big moves because of robinhoodies on this board are the same people who believed in the wall street bonuses taking bitcoin to $50k

>> No.18750011 [DELETED] 

UK economy to shrink by 35% Q2.

https://www.google.com/search?q=uk+economy+35%25&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiQjZPlxo3pAhVinVwKHeMoARMQpwV6BAgLEBo&biw=1366&bih=657

>BULLISH AND PRICED IN

>> No.18750021

>>18749693
REVERSE SPLIT
FOLLOW THE NEWS

>> No.18750023

so that's it huh? only green ahead of us for atleast 10 years

>> No.18750025

UK economy to shrink by 35% Q2.

https://www.pwc.co.uk/press-room/press-releases/pwc-publishes-weekly-uk-economic-update-.html

>BULLISH AND PRICED IN

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>>18749770
Holy fucking shit that's hilarious

>> No.18750031

>>18749184
Yes. I've taken two bites of NAT and I got back in for the third and final. I hope it works, but ultimately went back to the well because the oil storage issue doesn't go away in an instant. I also have FRO and DHT. I had TNK but exited a week ago with modest gains.
Basically I'm sitting around waiting to see how it goes today and the rest of the week. I think next week is when we find out how it's going to shake out short-term. There was a tankerbro here yesterday with a good argument for tankers in general but the other anons disagreed over which stock was best. NAT in particular seemed to be labeled as a meme stonk because of Cramer but I think—and hope—that those opinions prove to be overly harsh.

>> No.18750035

DHT BRO WHY ARE OIL PRICES RISING

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>>18750025
>PwC estimates for GDP growth in 2020 now range from around -5% to -10% in alternative scenarios, as compared to -3% to -7% previously, reflecting more recent economic data.

>> No.18750042

Don't forget there is a fed announcement at 2pm Eastern time today. Don't get fucked up in a day trade at that time cuz it could move hard either way and a hard move today in particular is expected depending on how much JPow lets slip about the future of rates

>> No.18750045

>>18749285
I bought at 9.36, a coworker got in at $8. Feels good.

>> No.18750049

>>18748691
>>18748719
Same.

>> No.18750054

>>18748867
Why? What will you replace it with?

>> No.18750055

>>18750049
>>18748719
>>18748691
NAIL is free money

>> No.18750058

>>18750054
You fuckers convinced me to buy NET and its my literal only negative stock. Fuck you faggots

>> No.18750061

>>18749961
Thats simply not true to try and claim theres a racial element to faulty poorly-made and intrinsically unsafe planes falling out of the sky.
Especially when in every investigation thats ever been done on boeing has found they're intentionally lying and misleading everyone they can about their planes.

I dont beleive youre a 737 max pilot or have ever really looked into the problems if thats what you say..

One single point sensor failure with catastrophic failure potential, when everyone else uses multiple redundant systems isnt a safe system

>> No.18750065

>>18750041
>Our GDP growth scenarios for 2020 are less negative than the recent illustrative projections by the OBR predicting a 13% fall in 2020. But the OBR assumes a very sharp 35% drop in Q2 2020, which seems rather an extreme assumption.

>> No.18750069

>>18749961
>However from a pilot's perspective it's not really an unsafe airplane
>constructed in a way it can barely stay in air without constant automated correction
>said special background autopilot has no limits on what it's allowed to do including turning the plane into a vertical dive
>default setting for the special autopilot is "on and overrides pilot controls"
>not unsafe

>> No.18750070

>>18748599
Since you're a financial genius, why did Ford fall over 50%? Their earnings did not cause that drop.

>> No.18750077

>>18750061
>intrinsically unsafe planes
isn't there video of one doing a barrel roll?

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>>18748864

>> No.18750079

>>18749962
606 filings says stay the fuck away and invest in 2sigma
>>18750009

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>>18750065
>BoJo's health in Q2 predicts his health in Q3
Never bet against BoJo.

>> No.18750088

Boeing selling tons of new bonds.

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>>18749063

>> No.18750095
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18750095

FED is increasing rates?

>> No.18750096

why is BA mooning...i thought the ER is bad

>> No.18750097

>>18750088
Boeing is up fucking 5% pre-market. I should have bought more last week. Fuck me.

>> No.18750100

>>18750077
http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm
concorde and 737 max really stand out..

>> No.18750101

>>18750088
Is the US government buying them?

>> No.18750106

>>18750061
All the accidents were by nigger third world pilots.
But the aircraft is a shot design. The engine is too big and too far forward. It was so unbalanced that it required pajeet code to fly. Pajeets can’t code. Niggers can’t fly. That’s the 787-max in a nutshell.

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All the bad news and we're up. Truly do not understand, but I am thankful right now

>> No.18750119

>>18749961
Most of the pilot opinions I've read seem to think MCAS was never needed and it would have sufficed to simply inform them of the stronger pitch up tendency in the MAX.

>> No.18750122

>>18749961
It pulls the nose down without the correct warning signals or training of what to do in such a situation. They messed up big time.

As an engineer it is clear why. Airbus designs a new airplane - which is good conduct as airplanes are very complex and can't just be fit together from other parts (like some car manufacturers can do when they retrofit an old chassis to a new upper part). This doesn't work for planes. Of course you can increase carrying capacity by shifting around the fuel tanks, enlarging the wings a bit and widening the fusulage. But do this for decades on end and you get this juryrigged airplane which becomes more and more unstable to the point that it needs complex, error prone software to stay stable in the sky. This is what went wrong at Boeing and was bound to go wrong at some point. They didn't want to get rid of their golden goose and wanted to cut corners on design costs and it bit them in the ass.

>> No.18750124

>>18750054
I dunno, one of my other holdings I have more confidence in. I kinda just bought NET for the hype but I', starting to abandon that strategy and only stick to companies I know something about and have more confidence in. I mean $30 is a high exit point being as how the stock is $23.55 right now. I would just rather invest in something I understand.

>> No.18750125

>>18750106
Nothing here is untrue.
But it doesnt alleviate boeings faults

>> No.18750130

>>18750100
yeah i don't know shit about jets i just thought that was funny

>> No.18750131

>>18750115
why is this happening?

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>>18750106
Based and accurate summary.

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>>18750115

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place your bets

>> No.18750138
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18750138

i love finding the comments on investing.com where visionary investors clearly have just lost their savings on a yolo put

>> No.18750147

>>18750122
Imagine if people actually wanted airbuses right now.. Boeing would be a fucking crater.

Covid has been the greatest thing to happen to these companies ever

>> No.18750153

>sold airbus yesterday for profit
>went minus 2 early today so I bought back in when it looked like the earnings report wasn‘t scaring people that much
>up over 5 percent from there already
I actually was looking for something to hold, but I find it hard to resist just daytrading this thing.

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>>18750131

>> No.18750166

>>18749961
Boeing has been deceptive, jew, and arrogant from the very first incident involving the plane. A software fix to a hardware bug that was kept moneywalled and obtuse on purpose because it was a dumb desperate play to not lose market share against the A320. Just absolute laziness in the best light, reckless in the worst.
And this doesn't seem a one off. They are pissing off their partners in their other contracts too.
The KC-46A has been delayed for its use as a refueling craft by another hardware glitch for being used by Air National Guard for 3 to 4 years. And don't forget they nearly ALLAH ACKBAR'd the Starlink module with a software error for the thrusters.
They aren't a plane company anymore. They are a financial engineering firm that won't be making planes for years.

>> No.18750169

>>18750031
I went for DHT after checking their past finances, the CEO team, their fleet and business plan. It seems solid, even as a long term hodl. They seem really open about what is going on and the prospects seem good. But I don't know if I am being memed of course.

The 6th of may they bring out an earnings report and divvy is up at the end of may. So it happens this month. Ill see what happens today and either buy more or sell.

>> No.18750175

>>18750153
Which Airbus? ADR EADSY/EADSF?

>> No.18750176

>>18749375
trump offered him one night with ivanka, screenshot this

>> No.18750182

>>18750125
Being stopped engineering airplanes after McDonnell Douglas took over. They wanted to cut costs. They did so by redesigning odd unbalanced planes like the 737-max instead of engineering a new narrow-body airplane.

>> No.18750183

>>18750070
>tfw 13.50 avg cost basis

A-at least it’s was a gift, r-right?

>> No.18750186

Hey pre-hour bros, I love you all.

>> No.18750190

https://twitter.com/BagholderQuotes
a whole twitter account of pink wojak quotes

>> No.18750195

>>18750106
These are the hard truths that keep me coming back. Never change /smg/

>> No.18750196

>>18750147
If there was an alternative Boeing would not exist anymore. But boomer Trump won't let it go down as the whole US airforce (and some others) are depending on it.

Curious what will happen but it can take decades to recover. If other players play their cards right they could bump Boeing of the throne.

>> No.18750209

Throwing $10k into robinhood right now, what's my best play to turn that into $12k?

>> No.18750210

>>18749945
If those are the popular stocks you stay away from them.
Castles in the skies tend to crash.

>> No.18750211

tell me NAT is going to be ok...

>> No.18750215

>AMD beat earnings as i predicted
>stock drops 6%

i fucking hate this world, FA a shit.

>> No.18750219

>>18750209
cut the dollar bills in half, send the halves to the fed reserve and ask for replacements and youll end up with 20k

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>>18750095
not for a long time.

>> No.18750224

>>18750196
Have you ever seen their manufacturing process? It is immaculate. They are literally decades ahead. If Boeing goes under only airbus will remain. No competition is not a good thing.

>> No.18750234

>>18750169
I have 6150 DHT, they're in a really good spot and will finally be able to pay down some of the debt from 10 years ago. Tanker companies got fucked hard during the financial crisis because there was no contango at the time to bail them out and they have been living with the debts incurred then ever since.

>> No.18750237

>>18750219
i'm dying

>> No.18750238

>>18750211
should i buy this?

>> No.18750242

>>18750182
I dont understand the point youre trying to make?

Its mistakes ontop of mistake with that frame, just to make short term gains.

Really fucked them long term

>> No.18750249

Imagine not shorting WTI June contracts at $20.
Imagine missing that boat or even buying that shit on the "dip".

>> No.18750254

>>18750209
Depends how fast, NET for short term (1-2 week play) , NAIL for 3-4month play, DFEN for 1-2 year play

>> No.18750256

So i forgot i had some USO 10/16 $8 calls and it obviously reverse split today. What the hell happens to these options? Does the $8 still stay the strike while the underlying contract amount gets adjusted? Can I still trade them off to someone else even though they appear to have a USO1 ticker?

>> No.18750258

>>18750136
Who cares even if confidence somehow improve, it wont go back to normal and neither should the stock market.

>> No.18750268

>>18750224
you obviously havnt.
Read any report or investigation..

Its borderline third world. With most third worlders having a better record

>> No.18750271

>>18750209
Buy zoom or Netflix puts with a long term

>> No.18750273

>>18750169
They apparently have a part of the fleet hedged at 60k /day for the whole year. But they recently signed 3 VLCCs for the following Actual TCE (including idle days) of:
152,394@80 days
194,486@68.8 days
168,379@69.6 days

May's WTI is likely going to close to zero or negative again. There are too many incentives for oil producers to just sell futures. All tankers should make a killing. The rates for STNG's CCP tankers are through the roof as well.

>> No.18750277

>>18750224
Boeing isn't interested in competition. They are interested in GIBBS.
Boeing needs to split the civilian and military branches of its business into different firms. So the civilian side can't rely on pork barrel and GIBBS to cover its third tier decisionmaking when it comes to...you know...engineering planes

>> No.18750280

>>18750224
Might need a rebrand or it will be split up. The knowledge won't be lost I think. But in its current form it was already dying before Corona.

>> No.18750285

>>18750224
>crashes

>> No.18750288

>>18750138
theyre golden no matter direction
>>18750258
if conf improves we can get 09-10 kinda place where no real value is added or imporvement being made but we have a feel of such and on the thrusty JPOW cock we ride towards a brighter future (for few years)

>> No.18750290

>>18750242
Anon was supporting your statement. He's not arguing with you.

>> No.18750291

>>18750234
I have believe but it remains a penny stock with high risk. I only got 100 yesterday around the dip. Let's see what it does after opening.

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>>18750222
What do you think the announcement at 2pm is then? I can only be something bullish.

>> No.18750301

>>18750273
edit: CPP tankers

>> No.18750302

>>18750238
I could've earned £200 just this week if I put in more money into it instead of just £65. I know this is all chump change but it's so anger inducing knowing that I could've just been more ballsy.
It went up ~40% this past week.

>> No.18750305

>>18750215
>AMD beats earnings
>damp eet
>Boeing makes huge losses, furloughs everyone, is getting sued for sacrificing hundreds of airline passangers to Moloch
>moons
HONK HONK

>> No.18750314

>>18750271
>

>> No.18750321

>>18750273
True, its in their financial report. All ships are in the water making money now if you want to believe them. The largest part of their fleet is still working the spot market but they have some good leasing deals far above the cost of running their tankers.

Q1 they started to give divvy again (almost 40 cents for that quarter) which makes me think they got rid of their debt only just in time for this crisis. This is a risky moon rocket that can just as easily crash down.

>> No.18750322

>>18750290
I get that part, but im wondering how their mistakes can be used to blame shit skins?

shouldnt have let them fly if that was the actual problem

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What do the numbers mean?
3?
30?
3000?

>> No.18750327

>>18750219
Could this work?

>> No.18750328

>>18750288
This would be a first time history. I will go with the odds and remain rational in the current clown market.

>> No.18750329

>>18748578
Futures contracts expiry?

>> No.18750330

>>18750291
Tankers are super-solid, but they are volatile. Treat them like a pnd opportunity, but with the dump being significantly more lenient than in a real pnd. They also have much better characteristics (they are proven, have actual value, have more trade volume). Seeing them as "safe pennystock" is not a bad way to evaluate them.

>> No.18750334

too much complacency. time to dump the spy

>> No.18750336

Give me your best get rick quick scheme stocks.

>> No.18750337

wow BA...

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:^)
>>18750328
me too, its not probable but possible scenario imo

>> No.18750344

>>18750273
>for the whole year.
Ending when?

>> No.18750349

>>18750136
bullish

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Tell me about NOG, hyuumaans.

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>the duality of man

>> No.18750353

>>18750337
I'm scared, might dump on open.
I have 9 shares

>> No.18750357

>>18750336
Kohl's, American Eagle Outfitters, MGM, CCL, TUP

>> No.18750358

>>18750327
yes and if you have enough of them you can just print some off on your printer at home because they'll just blend in with the rest of them

>> No.18750361

>>18750305
>duuuh why does the company with 200 PE go down

>> No.18750364

>>18750336
Tesla options.
Put or call that is the question. You must consult the great shitcoin scholars that are 95% of /biz/

>> No.18750370

>excited the market yesterday
>all the stocks I sold star soaring

ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR

>> No.18750372

>>18750357
why kohl's and how high do you see it going

>> No.18750385

>>18750370
If they're soaring too hard, that might imply a coming crash. Don't FOMO back in that case. The question is simple: did you profit from closing your positions or not?

>> No.18750390

>>18750293
it's a scheduled FOMC meeting...
it will be important, they will talk about their future outlook on when they might raise/lower rates next, and what other policy tools they might use (or stop using)

>> No.18750391

>>18750372
Straight to the moon

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Missed the bottom? Your chance is here again

>> No.18750398

>>18750344
I don't recall exactly. I think they talk about it in the Q4 2019 statement so I imagine around the end of the year.

>> No.18750399

>>18750370
>>18750385
This. It's pumping right now before dumping just like yesterday. I will set some sell limits right now...

>> No.18750407

>>18750322
He's just saying that without the shitskins Boeing would've rode the cut corners longer. I think anyway.

>> No.18750408

>>18750268
>you obviously havnt.
I’ve been to their assembly line many times. They are so far ahead that no company could ever catch up.
>>18750277
>Boeing isn't interested in competition. They are interested in GIBBS.
I think the McDonnell Douglas Jew just went too hard on cutting costs. Hopefully the old heads at Boeing will get back to their engineering roots.
>>18750280
>Might need a rebrand or it will be split up. The knowledge won't be lost I think.
They will be fine. Who here remember the exploding Samsung’s or Toyota’s with faulty seatbelts?
>>18750242
>I dont understand the point youre trying to make?
Boeing bought Boeing but McDonnell Douglas took over Boeing. McDonnell Douglas has a Jew mentality. Instead of engineering a new narrow body aircraft they took the 737 and redesigned it. To do so they had to cut corners and compromise on design. It was a perfectly built plane at the time. And the kikes wouldn’t just let it retire. They had to pinch every last shekel out of it.

>> No.18750416

>>18750215
>>18750305
AMD was already at precorona levels and had went up significantly leading up to earnings. All memes aside good earnings were priced in. AMD is known for pricing a lot of things in and falling a bit on earnings, people like myself who are long term bullish on AMD sold at 58 and used earnings as a way to get in lower, small gamble, but worth the risk.

Despite BA having lower earnings, the stock is still at a significant discount and earnings put that in perspective for a lot of investors. I was telling people to buy BA calls yesterday and retarded bears were telling me it was going back to double digits

>> No.18750447

>>18750352
>loved it
this dude literally copy and pastes this comment on every CNBC video, what the fuck?

>> No.18750449

>>18750215
As did INTC, they are sliding on the understanding that these earnings are due to uncontrollable factors (Covid-19) and not exemplary business management.

>> No.18750454
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>>18750390
good point if brrr stops....

>> No.18750455

>>18750394
I just dont understand these fucks.
Its apparently a stable business with electronic payments, probably affected less than any other company during these times. Also good numbers. You would expect them to be similiar to V, MA and all the other companies in the field.

And still they dump and dump and dump.
I would never buy German stocks so I dont really care, but this is just ridiculous.

>> No.18750465

>>18750454
>Brr stops
Will never happen. Ever.

>> No.18750470

>>18750447
he's a positive guy

>> No.18750473

>>18750408
lol, youre amazed by aero engineering not boeing. Large scale manufacture is amazing but not unique at all. How many others have you seen?

Just read the reports or cite a single non-sponsored opinion that shares your view. Because every single report mentions cover-up culture and shoddy work practices under unrealistic time crunches

>> No.18750482

>>18750372
At minimum you can 2x your money. Best thing that could happen is Amazon buys them. They already have the return deal with them, and there's speculation of an acquisition

>> No.18750485
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>>18750268
Research their assembly lines. It is very impressive if you’re into mechanics and engineering. Everett and Renton.

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>>18750455
its just an audit
the real problem is if they couldn't hide it

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>>18750465
>brrr never stops

>> No.18750493

>>18750454
BRRR started using the stock market as an indicator. It won't stop until all the other (slow indicators) look "well" too.

>> No.18750496

>>18750407
nah he comes straight out and says it was jews.

>>18750408

My point is hes autistic. You cant trade on rasicm dude, who even takes your dole income for CFDs, that person should be shot

>> No.18750500

>>18750482
i've got 5/1 $23 calls...

>> No.18750506

>>18750489
I know. But this audit has been going on for months and found nothing.
On the other hand Wirecard has been acting so shady that I cant really believe its clean.

>> No.18750510

>>18750485
see>>18750473

>> No.18750523

CVE did about 3x worse than projected this quarter. If you are holding CVE, you should probably market sell at open.

>> No.18750531

NET is gonna pump 2 dollars today off of JD news + yesterday there was a trade of 1.5 million shares, get in now friends

>> No.18750534

>>18750492
It literally wont. Stopping the BRRR will hurt short term and 4 years is already long term for politicians.
It will really hurt the US long term, but by then the people responsible are gone or dead.

>> No.18750535
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OIL IS PUMPING

>> No.18750537

>>18750473
>How many others have you seen?
I’ve been to airbus Toulouse. How many have you seen?

>> No.18750543

>>18750408
I am an industrial engineer and I saw the production lines of Scania (truck company) first and was equally amazed until I realized they are not unique and not overperforming. The same goes for Boeing; of course it looks cool and fancy but a good production process is not in the fancy machinery or robots they use but the system of production as a whole. One little bottleneck could ruin your whole factory output.

Boeing is a boomer company that is not good at Just in Time or lean manufacturing. Just like most American companies they tend to drown errors in their production line out by overproducing and keeping absurd amounts of stock of materials. This is the same reason why Ford - once the epitome of production - got ecplipsed by Toyota and their Kanban System and other lean principes. Almost all production companies now use these principles but there is a large cultural aspect as well which many companies don't have. You need an effective shallow organisation working on a "Bottom-up" basis which Boeing just doesn't have.

>> No.18750550

>>18750364
Tesla is unironically the symbol of this recovery. If it collapses anytime in the next several months, it is no exaggeration to say the US economy, maybe even the world's goes with it.

>> No.18750551

>>18750523
why would i want to sell on such bullish news?

>> No.18750555

>>18750398
What a waste if it's Q4 2020. If it's Q2 2020 it's basically optimal, they'll see a massive boost in revenue for the longest possible amount of time as other tankers already took many orders in Q1 and can't profit quite as much. If their fleet didn't need to wait to Q4 I'd be taking a massive position in DHT. As is I'll have to reassess. Still plan to put at least 500 into them.

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I have to say that Bitcoin looks fucking amazing right now, you can really tell that the algos trading the stock market is gradually getting a hold over it. I wonder what happens when the indices starts blasting new all time highs if Bitcoin will follow or not.
Shorting 8400-8500 for some easy cash

>> No.18750559

>>18750447
It's not only CNBC, also Bloomberg and various other channels.

>> No.18750564
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>>18750523
>Caring about numbers in the post reality market
If you are crazy or dumb enough to invest in oil now you deserve some money, I think.

>> No.18750577

>>18750531
>NET

I'm wary of betting on a company with dealings in Chyna.

>> No.18750582

>>18750551
Losses are bullish when they're lower than expected, here they are significantly higher than expected. Moreover, they rely too much on oil and, in their address, implied they're in deep trouble as they tried to reassure investors by saying they're ready to basically double their production cuts. They said they can cut production up to 100k bbd/d before having problems. Given that we need $40/barrel for them to break even and that storage will be filled for the year at least, I don't see them making it out of there unscathed. I think investors see that as well and will dump.

>> No.18750592

>>18750555
they have a fleet of 27 ships and I think 10 are now on lease with other companies. Still far above the normal price.

>> No.18750600

>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-29/europe-s-virus-lockdowns-send-confidence-plunging-at-record-pace?srnd=premium-europe

>Germany Sees Output Shrinking 6.3% as Confidence Collapses

I am buying the DAX today for some clown market gains.

>> No.18750602

>>18750577
so you don't own any companies?

>> No.18750608

>>18750454
they've actually been slowing down. they're waiting to see the markets overall reaction. everyone is being pretty cautious right now as they see oil commit die.

>> No.18750607

>>18750582
these are all very well thought out and well reasoned points, however, please see >>18750564

buying on open

>> No.18750613

>>18750602
I'm all in on RTX, NAT, and ET at the moment. Never, ever bet against America, faggot.

>> No.18750616

>>18750537
>airbus Toulouse
Well i take it back then. Im surprised though thats the impression you walk away having after seeing both comparatively

1+2 and occasional forays with a few contractors

>> No.18750622

>>18750592
Of course, and they'll do just fine and probably pay off their debt, but you could either go with them for minor profit or for any other tanker for major profit. Which would you choose?

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>> No.18750633

Redpill me on BAM. Which BAM stock do I buy on TSX?

>> No.18750634

>>18750550
ive been saying that... like a an autist

all the cogs are gearing to push,

>> No.18750636

Anybody in here got some TSx good idea? Playing with 5,4k this morning! Looking for some 1-2 month investment or massive post covid sell.
Thinking about CAE or Air Canada!

>> No.18750643

>>18750613
is raytheon expected to go up?

>> No.18750651

>>18750322
>I get that part, but im wondering how their mistakes can be used to blame shit skins?
Part of the McDonnell Douglas Jew cutting corners involved redesigning old planes. The only way the resign could fly was with additional electronics. The Jew cut additional corners by hiring h1b pajeet engineers to code.
>shouldnt have let them fly if that was the actual problem
They shouldn’t have cut so many corners and just engineered a modern narrow-body aircraft.

>> No.18750653

Organic green candles

today bull day 2%

>> No.18750656

>>18750643
If we have a war, yeah

>> No.18750664

WE MOOOONING

>> No.18750668

my tankers are tanking...

>> No.18750670

BEARS R FUCK

>> No.18750673

Lol what a candle on s&p

>> No.18750686

what the fuck was that

>> No.18750696

NEW
>>18750694
>>18750694
>>18750694

>> No.18750698

JEROME FAT FINGER

>> No.18750706

>>18750622
the one with the strongest balance sheet and the one I feel the most for. I was impressed with DHT to be honest, moreso than with NAT or FRO and some others I checked.

>> No.18750714

>>18750651
I know what your point is, i was gaslighting you for the racial stereotype.

Sorry, I think we agree far more than we disagree, but honestly but boeing. Its an evil company like the rest, theyre just slowly getting caught for it. Shame they're taking the reputation of the workers with them

>> No.18750755

>>18750636
Don't touch AC, they are always on the brink of collapse and the government is not in the habit of bailing them out (happened only 1/3 times).
I don't know about CAE, wouldn't put much into it I think.
On TSX the best stock are probably dividend yielding stocks, especially solid ones that have recently cut. To be honest, all canadian stock is rather low quality compared to US stock, but the tax implications of irregular dividends in US stocks make only canadian dividend stocks and US regular dividend stocks viable for canadians. In that case, canadian yield is equivalent to US yield and so you get the most out of TSX stocks in that way.
I like BPF.UN, and I'll be waiting for earnings report to grab some SU, CWX, RUS, PSI, PPL, TCL.A, ENB and UFS.

>> No.18750767

>>18750543
Interesting perspective. I’m not an manufacturing engineer so I can’t intelligently comment on this. Yet I don’t think the comparison of cars, trucks or even regional airplanes to wide body airplanes can accurately be made. I can’t imagine Mitsubishi, Embraer, Bombardier catching up to Boeing or Airbus. Boeing can will never go under. However, I wouldn’t buy in now.

>> No.18750780

>>18750706
I generally agree, but I consider this to affect volatility (and therefore, at this point, upside) rather than potential. They'll most likely focus on repaying their debt which will make them even more attractive, but other tanks can act like p&d opportunities which, in the current market, I think is more profitable and easier to time. I would hold DHT longer term but it's useless shorter term in my opinion.

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>>18750550

>> No.18750805

>>18750767
Bombardier is dead. It's been in zombie mode for a long time now. A decade at least.

>> No.18750841

>>18749879
thanks for the leads, man, much appreciated

>> No.18750842

Holding DHT for six-12 months in tax advantaged account, good idea?

>> No.18750852

>>18750803
He's kinda right, but I'd nominate AMZN in that role rather than TSLA, while noting that the price of both is probably going to move together.
The idea is that very few very big companies got pump to high heaven way beyond their true value, and the rest of the market is doing nowhere near as good. If they stay up long enough, they can singlehandedly restore confidence in the market and cause the other stocks to recover, then they can crash safely. If not, the entire market will crash with them as capitulation sets in.

>> No.18750858

>>18750841
Love you bro, Be careful

>> No.18750880

>>18750767
That's more a problem of economies of scale than the production process. Well... economies of scales influences one's production process. In that sense it is true that Bombardier has a "less advanced" production process as they make less planes and thusly spend less money on process optimization. If you make 1000 airplanes in year, the incentive to cut costs on small parts of the process is much higher than when you produce 100. The latter will probably use a more jobshop, human labour intensive approach which seems less advanced and optimized but which is also ideal for the situation of the company and their strategy.

>> No.18750903

>>18750656
>>18750643

It will still go up. We will be entering cold war with China

>> No.18750919

>>18750613
War and tankers and temporary pretend tankers, baby. I'm right there with you.

>> No.18751134

>>18748638
3 Day trades per week for smaller accounts.
Be watching the market at 9:00
Read a few headlines in the half hour before market open.
Gauge what the sentiment should be for the day based on headlines.
Watch the candlesticks until about 10:30.
Have a good idea of what the general trend should be for the next hour.
It doesn't matter if that trend holds because you will only hold your position for a few minutes maximum.
Invest a large amount into SPY puts or calls when the number is down a bit from the previous minute, whichever one has been fluctuating up more than down in the past few minutes.
Literally as soon as it goes green sell it all.

Staking 4400 this way netted me 165 (down from 260 when I started the sale) yesterday.
Manually sell if it reaches -2%

>> No.18751279

>>18750755
Noice thanks anon on the insights. I dont play in the US because of exchange rate.
How does dividend works? I know its some bonus they give each year for some with stocks? How do I know if the stock I am buying has some?

>> No.18751412

>>18750416
yeah.... i think i'll just stick with TA, at least price action is more honest.