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How how do I stop being a nice guy? Has anyone actually successfully improved themselves into a bad boy?

>> No.18633083

>>18633067
dont be a nice guy or a bad boy
just be a good man

>> No.18633146

>>18633083
Who is looking for a good man?

>> No.18633236

>>18633067
If this is about getting women or getting up in the corporate world, the same rule applies - just don't be overly nice to them, don't be an asshole obviously, but being super friendly is off putting to a lot of people. If you want to be dating/have professional respect, be confident/stoic and polite but kinda distant, or you could not look for advice like this on 4chan jk (kinda). Trust your gut

>> No.18633263

>>18633236
>don't be an asshole
So why do women dates assholes?

>> No.18633278

>>18633146
Good women are.

>> No.18633301

I have trouble with this, but for any habit I don't find acceptable in myself I create a rule to abide by to change this. For example, if I thought I were too nice, I would decline every other request unless it brought me closer to money or in my self interest. It helped me alter my thinking.

>> No.18633326

>>18633278
>Good women are.
And yet that's not who they date.

>> No.18633331

>>18633263
Women date dickheads because people of both genders who deal with dickheads naturally want to prove them wrong or stick around because they feel it is a fault of their own that the person they're dealing with is such a prick.
its an abusive relationship.
Its like having friends who are actually complete assholes but you always go through the motions of "man fuck that guy" and "ehh he cant be that bad".

It's inadvertent emotional manipulation.

>> No.18633343

>>18633263
Women who date genuine assholes are not ones you would be happy with ultimately. Again, don't treat her like garbage, but be kinda distant and mysterious NOT shy and spergy, a lot of guys think this is being rude but most girls seem to want guys more if the guys show less interest

>> No.18633345

>>18633067
this book is pretty stupid. if you're not good looking it doesn't matter whether you're a pushover or a fucking asshole, women will not be attracted to you (at least until link moons and you're a millionaire).

>> No.18633346

>>18633331
Except women seek out those men in the first place.

>> No.18633366

>>18633345
Wrong, looks don't matter. You just have to be confident.

>> No.18633370

>>18633067
You only want to be a bad boy because you're insecure about yourself. You just need to find friends who respect you for who you are, which has never been easier than in the current day and age. The "be yourself" thing is not a meme. Stop trying to impress random assholes.

>> No.18633378

>>18633067
learn to say no

>> No.18633391

>>18633366
lol if you actually believe that looks don't matter. confidence definitely will help you get laid, but it's not going to take you from a 3 to an 8. reading a book sure as fuck isn't going to turn you into a bad boy overnight either. people that are confident are confident because women are attracted to them and they have lots of friends. it's not like charisma is something you can learn. you either have it or you don't.

>> No.18633409

>>18633378
This is most of it desu. You have to be able say no other people AND yourself.

>> No.18633429

>>18633346
When dickheads seek you out and you get stuck in the motions of it, you start seeking them out in return.

>> No.18633456

>>18633067
It's funny seeing women sperg out at normal behavior and call it "nice guy" because they think you're trying to get in their pants or something

>> No.18633488

>>18633391
>it's not like charisma is something you can learn. you either have it or you don't.


It kind of is. Some people have charisma the way women have bad hair days. It ebbs and flows, and somedays they're just smoother and more persuasive. Other days they can be really awkward and shy.


There are also many different forms of charisma too. Some people project charm, humour, and intelligence, whereas others authority and dominance. It's not really a one-size fits all type deal.

>> No.18633562

>>18633429
>i-it's those badboy dickheads who seeked out those women and made them want them!
You sound like a nice guy yourself

>> No.18633581

>>18633067
Gain testosterone

>> No.18633589

>>18633067
The key is to get off to a good start in life, specifically during your formative years. If you get dealt a raw hand or your trip up and things just don't quite go your way romantically or socially, you'll be playing catch up for decades to come (at the very least).

>> No.18633593

>>18633562
i was a clingy dork for 3 years of my life when i started seeking out a relationship, and after a lot of sex heartbreak and inward-looking i smoothed out all my retard parts and have been in a relationship for 2 years now.

I was never a nice guy.
being the Nice Guy is disingenuous. They wanna get in someones pant's like everyone else.
No point pretending and dancing around the topic.

>> No.18633604

The whole thing is dynamical. You can bad boy or good boy, it doesn't matter. I've played both sides of that field and I can tell you there are certain women that will be more attracted to the good and others attracted to the bad, while some are indiscriminate hussies.

Your status doesn't matter, either. I've slept with bitches while "homeless" (not like stinky street bum type homeless) and I've banged out sluts while solo holding down my own place, and I've fucked girls working minimum wage living with my parents smoking pot working in food service.

The big gauges aren't intelligence or looks. It's security. If you're content with who you are and you don't want to flip from good to bad, or from poor to rich, you're going to be centered. If you're constantly grasping at being the future, then you can't act in the present and so you're intrinsically insecure in action-of-the-moment.

Here's the thing with security: all you have to do is say: I'm Ted, the 22 year old burger flipper with a negative net worth, no talents and nothing impressive. I recognize I can do better, and so I will move in a trajectory that I think I can afford myself. I will sleep with fatties, I will sleep with the goon squad, I will sleep with Stacy. I will move to local management, I will move to regional management, I will become the regional director. But right now, I'm just Ted, down $3k on my Honda, flipping boogers at MacD. But don't attach value, or a lack thereof to you. Time is defined as an evolutionary sequence.

Also know that a lot of bitches are just S C U M. Never seen a day of adversity or spent the night alone. They never needed to develop a sense of responsibility or consequence. They're boring and lacking in insight, and you're absolutely in your right to dismiss them with some light jocular jabbing when they sound like a dumb bitch.

>>18633391
This is absolutely wrong, and you're a defeatist bitch. You should feel bad.

>> No.18633632
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>>18633067
Stop being such a fag. Stop caring about what other people think, and they will think better of you. Just be your own person and stop giving a fuck about the validation about other people. It is nice but it does not matter in the slightest. They will respect you for not caring about their opinion, it is like how women will chase the men that don't chase them.
t. Been called a bad boy by my Mommy

>> No.18633644

I'M A VERY GOOD BAD BOY

>> No.18633652

>>18633632
Did your mommy call you handsome too?

>> No.18633713

>>18633593
>They wanna get in someones pant's like everyone else.
>No point pretending and dancing around the topic.


That's true but this idea that men ONLY wanna fuck is harmful for both sexes. Building a connection and trust is necessary. A sexual connection is important, but our culture gives it too much precedent over the ways you can connect with a woman.


Obviously everyone wants to fuck, but you don't HAVE TO. Our whole dating culture is fucked up.

>> No.18633714

>>18633067
Learn how to be more selfish

>> No.18633735

>>18633652
Yes. She usually calls me her "handsome boy" when she's not mad at me, but I accidentally shit my bed after eating my birthday cake yesterday.

>> No.18633750

>>18633735
We're alike you & I.
Crossfaded? Thats when I shit.

>> No.18633752

>>18633263
like attracts like
be happy you didn't end up with one of them

also stop cooming

>> No.18633768

>>18633752
>also stop cooming
Will that help me waste my life on 4chan like it did for you?

>> No.18633777

>>18633713
oh, no
I'd argue girls want to bang even more.

and yeah dating culture is completely totalled.
More morally bankrupt than when I was going in.
Sex first, but love and a relationship is a scary word to zoomers.

I bought the GF dip, thank god.

>> No.18633831

>>18633777
>I'd argue girls want to bang even more.

Definitely. I've never successfully gotten with a girl I was trying to bang. Every time it happens it feels like I'm seduced or basically tricked into sleeping with them.

>> No.18634187

>>18633067
Call people out on their shit all the time. Doesn't matter if they are a teacher, your boss, your girl friend, if you dont agree with them let them know. If they fire or leave you, doesn't matter. They are weak and you are not.

>> No.18634253

>>18634187
Do you have aspergers by any chance?

>> No.18634270
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18634270

>>18633067
(You)

>> No.18634334

>>18634187
Based
>>18634253
Cringe

>> No.18634346

>>18633146
>literally WHO

>> No.18634416

>>18634346
Why is the World Health Organization looking for a good man? Like only one man? What use would they have for him?

>> No.18634427

>>18633067
>wants to be a bad boy
>posts a book that is absolutely not about that

READ NIGGA, READ!

>> No.18634499

>>18633263
Because women are in general pretty poor judges of character. Using female approval as some kind of moral compass is asinine.

>> No.18634515

>>18633067
Doing as you please is a freedom few understand. I suggest you get rich off holding Suterusu then figure it out soon.

>> No.18634536

>>18634515
How much SUTER to make it? I got about 100 k right now but haven't staked yet
>>18633083
Unbelievably BASED

>> No.18634574

>>18633067
Get a job that will involve interacting with the public a lot. You will become such a misanthrope within 1 year you will not even believe it.

>> No.18634592

>>18634187
This. Don't be afraid to say "no", politely and with good reason. You can still be a nice guy and not be a pushover.

>> No.18634602

>>18633263
>women date assholes
Women date guys with even a shred of confidence, because they're the ones that will actually approach them. Sometimes they're assholes, sometimes they're not. All that people mean by "asshole" is these guys just wanna hook up, without any of the commitments. It's not like it's easy to tell who is an "asshole" on first impressions alone, when they're just being charming and fun to get in your pants.

This whole asshole getting all the girls meme needs to fucking die already. It was popularised by all the sex in the city type garbage in the late 90s, early 00s and is now perpetuated by fucking incels. Everyone likes to fuck, women and men alike. Just don't be a manipulative piece of shit and don't be a spineless cuck who will do anything for a crumb of pussy.

>> No.18634634

>>18634602
This. Women are basically NPC they're agreeable by nature, which means that if you act completely normal and show interest in them they will feel the need to reciprocate, thats if you're not a weirdo though, you must be normal.

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>>18633263
>women dates assholes?
THANK GOD I'M AN ASSHOLE
https://youtu.be/kIwnesssP3s

>> No.18634650

>>18633067
I did, I was a shy kid, and I was a nice guy and an introvert throughout highschool, I hung around with some of the cool people but I was just soft and would always be girls best friend ,2 years before university i decided I could make a new impression and be the hot guy at uni, so I started working out everyday, I was also a virgin and I started looking up how to talk to girls and stumbled across RSD on youtube. their stuff is good for mindset and helps you have the right attitude towards women and put yourself out there as a sexual option instead of a friend. I lost my virginity just before university. Then at university I had to make friends so I joined a popular sports team, I got quite a few tattoos later that year, I would go out partying alot and I had sex with around 12 girls during my 2 years at university which sounds alot but it's nothing if you condsider I was having nights out in clubs about 2 times a week for 2 years. I also got arrested one night for damaging a property but I just went in a holding cell to sober up and they let me out the next day with the bill for damage, Most of the 'bad boy' stuff I did admittedly through the aid of alcohol, however has been a strong foundation for me to become who I am today.

>> No.18634666

I feel my progress with women was stunted by never dating in my youth, so i've been playing roblox and larping as a highschooler in order to e-date young chicks. Seems to be doing me good, feels like some closure, and it really helps me get a grasp on how women think since young girls are just so instinctual.

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>>18634666
>Those trips
>That statement

>> No.18634775

Basically everything that women say they want is not what they want.

Long term they want someone who can protect them and their kids, provide for them and their kids.

Short term they want a guy physically attrictive muscular magic mike type situation to just tke control of them and fuck their pussy out.

Girl like a guy who is high status, has options of other women, knows what he wants and goes after it, assertive (hence why they never like deciding where to go for dinner they want you to be assertive what you are going to do), confidence


Women on tv shows will say they want shit like "I loved a man who has touch of his feminine side" or "only real men cry and show emotions". The day you cry infront of your girl (over than like at your mums funeral or something) it's over and she will see you as a little bitch, whos going to protect her from a lion if you are just going to be a pussy about it, she needs a real man. most of this shit is evolutionary

>> No.18634778

>>18634666
Why don’t you have a seat over there?

>> No.18634796

Boboo exchange partnered with TRIAS(TRY) to promote the project to more global crypto readers and traders, which is the sole reason for the partnership.

>> No.18634832

>>18634666
kek, grooming gang in the house

>> No.18634905

>>18634778
>>18634703
>>18634832
nah straight up i don't do anything illegal, it's just like hitting up a new server every night and trying to get a "roblox gf" by the end of the night. Like one thing I realized, getting women in a group setting is a gold mine, if even one shows some sign of liking you, the rest get downright feral about also wanting you, so you can get the girl you originally came for. Also of course, its helping me learn to stop coming off as needy.

of course i'm not great looking in real life, so my results are probably tainted a little.

also i'm only 19, I'm not a 30 year old, so ymmv.

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>>18634775
This SEAmonkey is correct.


researchers have categorised how we appraise potential partners into three broad features. These are: the degree to which a partner exudes reproductive capacity (“vitality and attractiveness”), a partner’s ability to provide (“status and resources”), and the partner’s “warmth and trustworthiness”.

https://www.universal-sci.com/headlines/2018/1/9/we-all-want-the-same-things-in-a-partner-but-why

>> No.18635008

>>18633263
Fuck off incel, your entite life is an embarassing joke

>> No.18635013

Read the book The Way Of Men

If this thread is still up in the morning I will make a detailed post.

>> No.18635027

>>18635008
Seething

>> No.18635057

>>18633263
Because we have a primal subconscious that structures our thoughts.

Women favor "assholes" because impulsive tough guys have a higher chance of defending her while she is pregnant than a timid shy guy. Of course women favoring tough men can let them date terrible people just as men date crazy chicks with big tits

>> No.18635087

>>18633326
>he doesn’t know

>> No.18635294

>>18634602
I sometimes feel as though the "assholes" are in some ways the ones that can recognize the clues girls give you. Because if you're aware, you will know them. You get in shit when you either miss them or you see them when they aren't really there. For me it was the former for so long. Much regret.

>> No.18635309

>>18634499
>pretty poor judges of character.
Attraction can be pretty decoupled from judgements of character. The problem is that women have little to worry about regarding this. But men will still chase around a worthless cunt who happens to be a smokeshow too. They just have more to lose doing so.

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>>18633278
>good women exist
Lol sure

>> No.18635364

>>18633391
being a 9/10 good looking faggot incel won't get you laid
you think incels brush their teeth, let alone exercise?
>people that are confident are confident because women are attracted to them and they have lots of friends
>you either have it or you don't.

lol imagine thinking this
it's true though, you either have someone to teach you right or you have a retarded parent who wasn't taught right and won't teach you right

>>18633378
also this

>> No.18635478

>>18634602
Only real anon who knows what he's talking about.
"Assholes" are just high value guys who don't put let themselves get walked all over and actually have dating options. Just feeling that you have more value than her, as good or better options than her, clarity of intent, freedom from outcome etc etc

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18635481

>>18633067

>"nice guy"
>"bad boy"

You want some real self improvement? Stop letting your desire of approval from others, and expectations others put on you dictate who you are. Just bee urself.