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Batbois 4 Life
>>18582862

>Buy
https://www.apmex.com/
https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/
https://www.bgasc.com/
https://www.gainesvillecoins.com/
https://www.jmbullion.com/
https://www.providentmetals.com/
https://www.silvertowne.com/
https://sdbullion.com/
https://schiffgold.com/
https://goldsilver.com/
https://pinehurstcoins.com/
https://www.sprottmoney.com/
https://www.moneymetals.com/
https://monumentmetals.com/
https://www.goldenstatemint.com/
https://goldsilver.be/en/
https://www.muenze-berlin.de/
https://www.hollandgold.nl/
https://www.europesilverbullion.com/
https://www.celticgold.eu/en/
https://www.muenzeoesterreich.at/eng/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/

>News
https://www.kitco.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://www.mining.com/

>Bullion tax info by state:
https://www.apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mg9YcAShTo
Magnets, how do they work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgSXg-WOEVY

>YouTube/Podcasts
https://www.youtube.com/user/silverguru David Morgan
https://www.youtube.com/user/SprottGlobal
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqmToXM7x2tD7-2rs0KvObA Silver Bullion TV
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXPvtSNFvh9FJrwN02crJ_A money metals exchange podcast
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver mike maloney's channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClzSFvylrK8ij3KVwrHzjdA As Good As Gold Australia
https://www.youtube.com/user/McalvanyFinancial Golden Rule Radio

>Mascot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz8rvIl_vY

>> No.18614214

So is silvergoldbull the best option for Canadians?

>> No.18614216

gold will destroy fed

>> No.18614257
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I have 1500 to spend as a poorfag student on break staying with my mom until I can return to my dorm. She has 4k on her paypal she saved from saving change for the year. Should I just spend it with my 1600 and buy PM's? She will be upset but she will 100% blow it on bullshit. Other than that we are not strapped for cash or anything we are doing fine all things considered. With $5600 is I go this route what do you suggest I get?

I have 1 batboi and want more but I want each in their own capsule so I have to buy 9 from dealers since buying 10 gets me a tube instead. Worth each being in their own capsule or just get a tube?

>> No.18614303

>>18614257
Ask your mom first you zoomer retard, show her a mike maloney vid if you have to but don't just invest her money without her consent

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BOW DOWN

>> No.18614338

>>18614255
its not a bad idea. theres been a lot of rumbling about going back to Pt for catalysts in auto. only real gamble is how much demand will there be for new cars in the future. most of it comes from russia and s. africa so supply can be problematic. i want to believe that it will outshine gold sometime but need really drives price. look at Rhenium. more rare than gold and Pt but goes for under $200 / toz still

>> No.18614354

>>18614338

I don’t know about you all... but because of Corona this is the first time since college that I’ve felt alive. I have lots of silver and been waiting for something like this to happen for 5 years. The point where things get so bad that 1 silver Roosevelt dime will buy me a blowjob from a formerly well to do housewife and her 18 year old daughter at the same time. I’ve been waiting in the shadows laughing at these cuck husbands who buy their wives range rovers instead of buying silver bullion... knowing that I’ll be face fucking their wives mouths for the 1.30$ it cost me to buy that silver dime.

Just yesterday at Whole Foods I seamlessly entered into conversation about Corona with a roastie milf that had a ring on her finger in the water aisle... and I said this is all a cover for trump to bring us back on a gold standard. She started looking at me in amazement like she wanted me to paint her lips in cum. At the end of the conversation I’m like take my number l have plenty of protection and freeze dried food if you ever need it and she took it from me

>> No.18614358

>>18614303
>mike maloney vid
Which one? I know she will disregard and keep buying shit off Wish.com from China and dumb bathroom trinkets. But I will discus with her.

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>>18614214
no. check td or cibc or pmx or any of the other links poster or even local for better prices

last resort would be them. buddy of mine has been waiting 5 weeks for his last order. asking him if he wants substitutions

essentially they dont physically hold the metal, they are taking orders for certain items promising to deliver at a future unknown date. buyer beware

>> No.18614412

>>18614071
I've got 75 Ozs worth of batCHADS on arriving friday. I think I'm gonna sleep with them all over my body.

>> No.18614420

>>18614358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI7NnOg2rxo

>> No.18614432
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>>18614071
the bat should fear the owl

>> No.18614563

I have 1 Batboi 4 ETH 1 oz silver coins and 22 actual ETH, will I make it

>> No.18614603

>>18614420
Ill check it out but if she adamant about blowing it on crap should I just do it for the greater good?

>> No.18614621

>>18614603
idk man it's your relationship with her, I don't have to deal with the consequences

>> No.18614632

>>18614338
ty. idk it's so tough cuz the premiums are SO fucked on plat right now. im tempted to just dump the same ~1800 on silver instead.

>> No.18614681

>>18614632
i feel ya man. Pt premiums are always up there, like around 10% but these days are crazy. i mean silver was 100% $12 spot but $24ish for coins

>> No.18614711

>>18614338
Pt is too scarce for long term use in exhaust catalysts. Plus with all this talk of long term going to electric it may not be as in demand in the future. Plus the volatility on Pt and Rh is too high for my tastes. I'll stick to silver, us silverchads will have our day

>> No.18614728

Does the Gold standard also include Silver or just Gold? How was it in the past?

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>>18614632
>>18614711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=VB3_oOxVqdk&feature=emb_title
>When an Red-pilled Alpha Investor meets the shills

>> No.18614791

>>18614071
Anybody have silver bullets for corona infected skinwalkers/were-bats

>> No.18614811

I dont know is you guys follow SRS rocco report but he is the best and the comments are always great.

https://srsroccoreport.com/negative-oil-prices-first-time-ever-more-to-come-in-the-weeks-ahead/#comments

Here is the most recent article and the comments show how absolutely FUCKED we all are. These are smart people.

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>>18614728
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinage_Act_of_1792
We basically used any silver coins of the same weight as the Spanish Pieces of Eight. Our US silver dollars were of equivalent weight and purity. This lasted till 1933 when that one guy who couldnt even stand for the flag got put in office

>>18614811
>SRS rocco report
so based

>> No.18614831

>>18614728
Throughout most of history there has been a bimetallic standard simply because gold has been necessary for the purchase of expensive items and silver (and secondarily, copper) for the cheaper.

Gold is so valuable that the gold coins most ordinary people can afford to own are dangerously small and easy to lose. Which is why the main circulating coins have always been silver (and copper) with gold used to buy expensive stuff like houses and horses or boats or whatever.

>> No.18614842

>>18614740
The way those two retards just said "SILverrr??!?!!" just made me forget about plat entirely and I'm just gonna all in silver.

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>>18614728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVG4Uu7pTr0
>Take a walk with me through the history of the Dollar once again. Let's take a look at the coins that circulated the world and represent real money. I love coins, history and relaxing walks through COIN TALKS LIKE THIS! The story of the dollar is fascinating, and each coin that is part of the tale has its own mystique and allure. Oh to have them all!!
The Joachimsthaler—Bohemia, 1525
The Daalder—Low Countries, 1576
The Daler—Denmark and Norway, 1637
The Reichthaler—Brunswick-Lüneburg (Germany), 1666
Columnar Real de a Ocho, 1732
The Thaler of Austria-Hungary-Bohemia, 1780
The United States Dollar, 1794
From the Junius Maltby Channel

>> No.18614885

>>18614432
god damn that's ugly as shit

>> No.18614928

>>18614885
Yup. I can’t stand to buy any generic rounds for this reason, if you don’t want to pay premiums just buy plain bars

Rounds look like they’re pretending to be attractive coins and it drives me nuts to even look at them.

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>>18614791
just replace the lead shot in any shotgun shell with this here and you'll spend the rest of your life as a daywalker

>> No.18615043

>>18614928
that owl is produced by a govt mint
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niue

>> No.18615275

mint tube of 10 batboi coins or get 10 capsuled batbois instead? Tube is cheaper but the 10 capsuled ones I can freely play with without damaging them and the tubed ones will scratch and I will have to buy capsules for them if I wish to admire them all outside the tube.

>> No.18615278

Just bought a batboii from the us mint, What are the chances this thing actually sells out and appreciates? Will I get my premium + meme value back? Not that I’ll sell corona coin

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18615295

I want to look around some time for old school bullion to put in a big treasure box for shits and giggles.

>> No.18615303

>>18615043
This. And fuck the haters, Owl a good boi

>> No.18615315

>>18615278
Don’t buy batbois assuming they will have incredible resale value.

They are a meme, admittedly a meme made out of 5oz of fine silver, so they're hardly worthless. Don’t take this shit too seriously.

>> No.18615403

>>18615295
You're the coolest guy in /pmg/. You mentioned Jeff Williams a few days ago and I'm hooked on that crazy MFer lol. Thanks, Pan Man

>> No.18615441

>>18615403
dude is bat shit mad i ll tell you, I ran into him some time ago when he was doing his early videos on the Fraser River. I thought I was looking at a ghost from the 1860s, his get up and kit was all the same as someone from the era.. than i saw the camera. He does know his stuff though, I love watching his vids on the old gold rush towns especially.

>> No.18615447

anyone got a good resource that explains why prices are tanking on PMs today? i remember reading there was some kind of report that dropped today (similar to the one that tanked the oil prices).

>> No.18615469

>>18614320
breh is that VI
i have native cut colbolt spinels better than that

>> No.18615479

>>18614320
what is that bill in the background

>> No.18615520

>>18615447
Cash will be king for the next six months to a year as lots of people get out of investments.

Premiums are high on physical PMs at the moment but I wouldn’t be surprised if they start to go down. There are a lot of boomers out there about to lose their shirts on stocks and property who will need to sell their junk silver and Krugerrands they bought in the 1980s to stay afloat.

>> No.18615544

>>18615520
the stock market is going to be fucked for a while i am sure. Hard times for everyone are on their way unless your already prepared.

I noticed a bunch of mining companies this morning went odd, going up and down and than up again, not matching the values of their commodities, not sure at all what was going on there.

>> No.18615571

Is it even worth getting into fractional gold or just save up and buy full ounces

>> No.18615588
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>>18615571
I would just go with full ounces unless your after something more for looks like nuggets or sample ores. Fractional gold is cheap but it just isnt worth it in my humble opinion.

>> No.18615649

>>18615544
>Checked
LEMME TELL YA 'BOUT HARD TIMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LFlj96FQ_Q

>> No.18615659

>>18615571
if you can get fractional's at decent premiums go for it, every once in awhile i see a sale on 1/4's and i'm tempted to get em

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>>18615278
Lucky for you the US Mint lets you look at the data of the amount sold. As of April 19th, 14,003 were sold compared to the 12th with 13,551.
If we assume that the weekly sales stays the same then by mid July the mint will be out of uncirculated bat bois.
https://www.usmint.gov/about/production-sales-figures/cumulative-sales

>> No.18615819

>>18615571
If gold becomes too expensive--that is, not only an inflation edge--smaller fractions would be easier to sell.
It wont kill you to get two toz in 1/10 toz coins.
In Europe, that would be one of those nice, transparent tubes of Austrian Philharmonics (you can buy an empty tube and fill it little by little, for example, with one coin per month).

>> No.18615824

I work in physical gold and silver industry at every level of global supply chain, AMA

>> No.18615835

>>18615808
unfortunately US mint bullion like pretty much all modern bullion sells for spot on bourses or at pawn, coin, and jewelry shops.

if it didn't then collectors and dealers would buy up the entire mint run in days to resell.

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>>18615824
>at every level of global supply chain

>> No.18615870

>>18615824
first, do you agree huge amounts of product are being moved right now and for the past month?
second, are there still shortages to warrant this premium spike or are the whole salers fucking people over

>>18615835
nah this will hold value at least +2.00 spot

>> No.18615876

>>18615865
What's your problem, faggot? It's not hard. I deal with gold from the mines right up until it hits retailers and traders. Even traders sometimes contact me to fill their contracts.

>> No.18615881

>>18615865
shh i wanna hear his answers lol

>> No.18615887

>>18615835
So if the day ever comes to sell my batboy I wait some years then sell it privately? I also see alot of stackers that do IG auctions and raffles. The raffles are a good deal for the seller...and whoever wins obviously

>> No.18615899

>>18615876
lol, you dont sound insecure at all. do tell us your tales...

>> No.18615909

>>18615870
1) Yes, there is a massive abitrage opporunity in COMEX right now. I know for a fact that at least 30 tons are being shipped to New York over the next month or so.
2) Yes, the price is actually high because there isnt enough raw to turn into bullion to meet the demand. If you have bulk dore phone the Perth Mint right now and they will pay you whatever you want

>> No.18615913

>>18615876
is the shortage as real as it's being made out to be? are mines shut down everywhere? or is it extremely exaggerated? what's the general vibe of the industry? are people worried about their jobs or are people hopeful because PMs are generally speaking doing pretty well?

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>>18615824
is silver worth holding at all?

>> No.18615941

>>18615909
ty,
any guesses on when premium on silver will come down?

>> No.18616007

>>18615913
There is a shortage, but not because of mines. There's a shortage because every man and his dog was lined up outside every bullion shop in the Western world back in March to buy metal before the fed made printer go brrr. Remember your average normie is stupid but not a complete idiot.
The high premium is because of transport costs - airlines are gouging every shipment to try and stay afloat. They have no passengers so they are making whatever they can in freight, which isnt a lot. Expect premiums to stay high until the airline industry recovers.
>>18615941
See above
>>18615936
It is a useful metal and in demand all the time. You do the math. It's a metal best suited for trading.

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>this nigga is so full of shit
wheres the harry dent shill? he was entertaining

>> No.18616087

>>18616007
It makes since that gold and silver are shipped by plane overseas, no one wants to wait 6 weeks for some queen Elisabeth coins. but the US has gold and silver mines, why bother flying metals in between states in the US.
maybe there's to many train robbers?

>> No.18616135

>>18616087
For gold, there is a real pressure from finance people to get things where they are going as quickly as possible, so the best way to do that is airfreight. This is so that price agreements between buyer and seller stay worthwhile and to limit the liability of the carrier between A and B while it is in transit.
Some plane you have flown on in your life has almost certainly had some gold on it.

>> No.18616150

>>18616135
does apmex get first dibs on a lot of coins? ive looked at a couple different 2020 coins that they seem to have and nobody else does.

>> No.18616174

>>18616150
https://findbullionprices.com/p/2020-American-Silver-Eagle-1-oz-Coins/
based on this website, it looks like apmex charges about 4 dollars more for a 2020 ase then the cheapest person. that would explain the extra stock

>> No.18616188

>>18616150
That would come down to commercial agreements between apmex and the refineries - no way for me to know. If apmex has that kind of supply then I'm sure their stockroom guys have real friendly relationships with the sales girls at the refineries' bullion desks.
Buying bullion is very simple, you just phone the refinery, open an account and fron the cash. They send you goods and the certificates. Ezpz. I recommend always buying from the refinery's shop, if you don't know where it is or if they have one, phone them, they'll be very happy to tell you where you can get their goods direct.

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>>18614071
>Silver prices dipped since last time I checked
How long do I wait to buy

>> No.18616475

>>18616440
The price of silver may go up or down but every dollar you have now is worth less as time goes on, by design. Silver and Gold, in the long term, will hold value, which means that as your dollar devalues, you will be able to trade your metal for more of those devalued dollars. Exactly how much the dollar devalues by date X is hard to predict.
You should consider, however, the weakening state of the American empire and the willingness of foreign powers to implement a gold-based transaction system to rival the dollar payment system - something being worked on by certain individuals right now.

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How many Kennedys are blessing y'all stacks?

>> No.18616802

Anyone /gold miners/ here?

I've pretty much gone all in and I think I'm getting close, but it's just obstacle after obstacle, I'm stuck now jumping through regulatory hoops which is a nightmare, I've found some consultant who's got applications approved through the department before and he gave me a copy of his emergency plans and said I could just copy and paste my stuff in and should be all sweet, there are some people out there who are happy to help I guess.

My plan is to get the ore sent to a mill but then someone told me it's hard to get a look in at mill atm, I've got a few contacts I can try and my plan is to sell my best grade ore to them at a rate too good to refuse and get a bit of cash flow happening. Also the truck I just bought had a wire loose and fried the wiring harness today, great.

My old man and business partner has been diagnosed with a heart condition and it's my goal to get a gold pour happening before he passes on, I promise if I get this working I'll get a photo of a nice gold bar for you guys as well

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>>18616802
hope the hard work pays off fren. sounds like a PITA, wish i had some advice to give or info to help you out.

>> No.18616881

>>18616802
Dore is the go, mate. If you can get that poured, easy money. Which side of the continent are you on?

>> No.18616898

What's a good price for Peace Dollars?

>> No.18616974

>>18616898
The price you can afford and will achieve your investment objectives

>> No.18616987

>>18616856
Thanks m8, I just wish it was like back in the 60's 70's where you could just pretty much get a single permit and go for it, I would have all you guys over here camping, drinking beer and mining gold.

>>18616881
Yeah definitely the end goal is if i can get enough money to get my own gold dore happening especially at todays gold prices, the 1st stage is just to get some cash flow but I'll be pretty much be giving the gold away unfortunately, once I get enough to get my own shit happening it'll be cya later to any 3rd party leeches, im in WA so atleast we have pretty decent infrastructure setup here.

>> No.18617052

>>18616987
Nice and easy to get into Perth Mint from there, but you have other options when it comes to refining, even in Australia. You can send to ABC Refinery over in Sydney, and you can even speak to Siltech Refinery over in Melbourne. See who gives you the best price. They'll be able to factor in the transport as well, if you like, so you can get a whole-package price.

>> No.18617133

>>18617052
Cheers for those other guys ABC and Siltech, I wasn't really sure on any other legit refiners and would never live with myself if I managed to get a gold project up and running then gave all my gold to some scammer lol.

>> No.18617148

>>18616707
That's a nice coin. Very good pic of that top lad.

>> No.18617171

>>18617133
These types don't have a huge advertising budget, mostly because they're more proactive about approaching mines themselves. There is currently more demand than supply, so right now is a very good time to be a miner. I know the people at ABC and Siltech very well, they're legitimate and good people who pay their bills. Perth Mint is still government controlled somewhat, so that comes with its own set of considerations, but they obviously refine literally tons of gold every day. The other two aren't as big, but they're growing. They might be right for you, who knows.

>> No.18617225

>>18617148
No other coin makes fiat banksters seethe more.

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Gentlemen,
A monetary abyss will consume those who dwell in the ignorance of their history. Oh my sweet darlings the irony hath unfoldeth that we thought the better part of ourselves would keep check this greed. Smoky & sweet with sticky overtones. It is a foreshadow of things to come my frail companion of skin and bone. An echo of the past coming forth anew into a simultaneous crescendo of both despair and joyous celebration. Perceived as chaos to most, but to a select few, yes, a new order shall flourish under such agreeable conditions akin to a newborns tabula rasa.

Alas brother, now the pores ooze their pulp onto this dung heap. Secondary benefactors and opportunists shall, like insects lay eggs in such conditions. They are but morning dew accumulating on a blade of grass atop a luscious hillside, the latter will form into a droplet, the droplet ventures into a stream, a stream to a river and finally the river into the sea. As a fine wine must hibernate till maturity to be fully classified as 'fine' so too to drink it prematurely brings only a bitter taste to all unfortunate participants concerned. Bleeding on barren land the hosts chose out of a displaced sense of need a steady diet of dust rather than that of flour, their minds have been twisted that cows their basic instinct. Here we planted our seeds of sound specie long ago foreseeing this tragic yet inevitable human consequence.
It is night on a distant shore we stand together as one. Harvest awaits... Listening to waves as if they dictated a measurement of time. Concluding our commune we cast our dials into the waves for they hold no authority over what truth exists beyond our synthetic concept of ‘time' In an instant a voice breaks the silence "The horizon now look! The sun beckons thee!"
Like becoming a flaming phoenix it rises hitherto as we ride its coattails upward and promulgate this great cycle once more.

I bid thee farewell for a fourth and final time on the last bell toll of this age

Adieu

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>>18617509
An amazing shitpost

>> No.18617695

Thoughts on European Mint?

>> No.18617927

>>18615649
duthtay

>> No.18618230

>>18615824
What is your hot take on investing in the platinum group of metals as well as base metals? Worth the investment or is G&S the only real way to preserve value in the coming years?

>> No.18618242

>>18618230
Silver is the way to destroy value, not a single person here has profited on silver they are all bagholders

>> No.18618252

>>18614354
Based pasta

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>>18614071
>>18615315
>>18615278
>The virgin batboi
VS
>The Chad Valiant

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Rate my new memecoin.
Backed by hunger and burger fear.

>> No.18618962

>>18614928
>buy coins pay higher premiums
>buy bars, pay capital gains
you lose no matter what

>> No.18618970
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>>18618944
The back is pretty ironic

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>> No.18619320

Are 7% gold premiums on a gold 1oz Canadian Maple Leaf okay?

>> No.18619418

>>18619320
Yeah that's not bad at all, which dealer are you buying from?

>> No.18619427

>>18619418
CIBC, one of Canada's big banks

>> No.18619444

>>18619427
>>18619418
https://www.preciousmetals.cibc.com/en-CA/products/gold/

>> No.18619452

>>18619427
Nice, thanks fren

>> No.18619709

>>18618230
There's really not enough platinum or demand for platinum for it to be a real player, in my opinion. Traditionally speaking, gold has been the store of value, and over the long term it has been increasing in value steadily relative to the dollar - which is to say, the dollar has been steadily decreasing in value. If storing value is the objective, Gold is the solution.
>>18618962
>telling the government you have gold
Why
>>18619320
Can you afford it and will your investment objectives be furthered by aquisition at that price? The answer to this question and your question is the same.

>> No.18619942
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18619942

tfw soviet gold

>> No.18619953

>>18616898
Bought some Morgans yesterday for <$18. If you can get Morgans or Peace for under $20, go for it. I’ve never seen them go for under $25 at any auction.

>> No.18620007

Questions PM friends.

Is silver a cope for poor fags?

The only way it will become valuable as monetary supply is if gold becomes so valuable that every day people cannot transact in it. So why do so many people have only silver stacks? Especially since JP Morgan owns half and will just dump every time it goes on a run.

t. 10oz gold 250oz silver.

>> No.18620025

Why is this on /biz/? Buying coins is a hobby not a business. You aren't making any money

>> No.18620092

>>18614071
First time on /biz/ in like a year, can I get a quick rundown on the batbois?

>> No.18620094
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18620094

>Why is this on /biz/? Buying coins is a hobby not a business. You aren't making any money

>> No.18620181

>>18620007
silver is a bet on the gold/silver ration returning to the historical normal.

The idea is gold is currently overvalued so 100 ounces of silver at 100:1 might get 5 ounces of gold in the future.

>> No.18620221

>>18620092
if you don't have one you're the big gay and aren't going to make it

>> No.18620228

>>18620092
Bat soup > Ching chink virus >Limited mint Bat coin 2020 from American Mint that is now closed.

Historical meme value. If not in monetary value, certainly sentimental.
5oz chad world destroying bat instead of 1oz virgin eagle. Why wouldnt you buy bats?

>> No.18620278

How high, realistically could mining etfs like JNUG and friends go this recession? Is a 10x that unreasonable?

>> No.18620384

>>18620181
So the idea is hoping you can get gold in the future? I mean it makes sense if you don't have much money. But I don't understand people that have like 500oz silver and no gold. If silver is undervalued you are going to be rich as fuck with 400oz silver and 1oz gold. But a ratio return would need gold to dump alot (unlikely as it is already used as monetary metal by every single central bank) or silver to increase (more likely as it has some monetary use but still mainly industrial)

>> No.18620417

>>18619942
>Пpoлeтapии вceх cтpaн, cocдиижйтecь!

>Workers of all countries, coexist!

Neat

>> No.18620423
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18620423

Is it okay to buy uncert batboi?

>> No.18620455

>>18620025
Business and Finance. It is finance related because it's the only thing shilled on this board which is actual money

>> No.18620503
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>>18620423
Buy on JMBullion it's cheaper fren https://www.jmbullion.com/2020-5-oz-atb-national-park-of-american-samoa-silver-coin/

>> No.18620507

>>18620384
Gold is currently overvalued so buying silver now for future gold makes more sense than buying gold direct. I'd rather buy a few tubes of silver than a single gold coin, getting more liquidity and a better price right now.

>> No.18620856

>>18620423
>>18620503
So no? What does certified entail

>> No.18620895

>>18614420
Just watched the whole video
>at 15:20 reason number 3
I hate jews and boomers so much. We could have had a nice life.

>> No.18620940

>>18620423
Only if you want to lose less money

>> No.18620998

>>18620856
The original photo you posted and the link I posted are the bullion, anon. Both are uncertified — they're just silver rounds with the batboi design. If you want a certified batboi you will have to get one from the US Mint https://catalog.usmint.gov/national-park-of-american-samoa-2020-uncirculated-five-ounce-silver-coin-20AJ.html?cgid=null&q=american%2520samoa&navid=search#q=american%2520samoa&start=1 Those are certified but are more expensive since there is a mintage limit of 20,000

>> No.18621036

>>18620895
You are jealous of old men, sad

>> No.18621211

Does it make sense to buy gold in the UK? What is the most tax efficient way of doing it? Buying sovereigns?

>> No.18621334

I have 40,000 oz in a family vault. See ya on the other side poorfags.

>> No.18621366

>>18621211
gold is tax free in the UK

>> No.18621402

>>18621366
Yep
But I understand sovereigns are exempt from capital gains tax? Why do people not just buy sovereigns in this case? What is the catch?

>> No.18621420

>>18614420
Really nice vid, thanks anon

>> No.18621451

>>18621402
all uk bullion is exempt

>> No.18621459

>>18621036
You're an old fuck and your brain is slower and you're housing portfolio is going into the dirt, you weren't entitled to unrealistic unfettered kike gains and I can't wait for you boomers faggots to suffer after selling out your countries and culture

>> No.18621503

>>18618970
lol why is it in english? whomst did this

>> No.18621520

>>18615479
It's a Utah Goldback. Has gold literally in the bill itself. Bit of a meme, kinda not. You can get one for free from their site, but it won't have much gold in it.
>>18617225
All Constitutional makes them seethe. 90% silver Kennedys, Washingtons, and ESPECIALLY Roosevelts are great reminders of when, not too long ago, we had real money in this country.

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18621907

wtf happened with mike maloney? is this what stress does to your hair? he's only 64.

>> No.18622052

>>18621907
Picked up a cursed coin which became a parasitic phylactery for a vampiric eastern european count. Many such cases. Sad!

>> No.18622067

>>18616898
Listen to >>18619953, he actually knows what he’s talking about. not that larping aussie.

>> No.18622116

>>18621907
Can't get his hair dyed during corona

>> No.18622387

>>18621451
Why are there CGT exempt coins then?

>> No.18622388

>>18621907
The average american without make up

>> No.18622403

>>18622052
Most likely this.

>> No.18622509

>>18622387
because coins are bullion?

>> No.18622577

>>18622509
It seems that legal tender is CGT free but not all bullion, from a quick google search.

>> No.18622689

>>18622577
thats why i said uk bullion

>> No.18622796

Why should I buy silver if in case there won't be any ''gold standard'' it will stay the same. And I have red that only gold is the ''chosen one'' in the hedge realm
Also why should I buy silver if it's born a new class of ''anti-inflation'' money (bitcoin) ?

>> No.18622811

>>18622689
although i shouldve probably said uk coins, as i dont think bars are cgt free

>> No.18622827

>>18622689
Ah gotcha, my mistake!

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>> No.18622931

>>18622796
Anyone can help me with this?
No fud genuine curious

>> No.18623067

>>18622860

I've sold a few oz of my gold to a dealer in town already for 3% over spot. This post is completely retarded.

>> No.18623146

>>18623067
You don't get it and probably because you are a retard.

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>>18614071
Does anyone know of a company based in yurop selling batbois? I can't find them in Europe.
I know it wouldn't save me money, I just don't wanna deal with customs, it's a pain in the butt.

>> No.18623224

>>18619942
Where did you get that?

>> No.18623244

>>18615571
2 rand coins have .2354 ounces and have a premium on par with one ounce coins, they're a no brainer if you are looking to buy fractionals

>> No.18623312

Is 10% premium normal on gold coins? Price per gram on this sovereign is about 10% higher than current price

>> No.18623330

>>18623312
forgot link
https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/gold-coins/full-sovereign-gold-coin/2020-gold-sovereign/

>> No.18623335

>>18616802
you need serious bulk tonnage to get a mill to even look at you, and than you also need a consistent grade of ore that doesnt change wildly every shipment.

>> No.18623428

>>18614214
either that or jm bullion

>> No.18623457

>>18623067
>jm
did you also pay your taxes with eagles? FAggot.

>> No.18623472
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18623472

What do yall think about this deal? I'm going to haggle the price and try and get it for $20 Max, anyone know the purity of these coins and if there even worth adding to the stack, are they worth more in the thingy or can I just pop em out when I get em and throw them in with the rest of my junk silver?

>> No.18623499

>>18614071

Fun Fact: With real silver, especially bars in excess of one ounce, you can (and should) do the magnet test at steeper angles. I have tested silver bars at almost 90 degrees and the neodymium magnet still moves at the speed of a moleasses.

Also, I noticed if you are tested a roll of coins/rounds, pure silver will make youhand feel colder the longer you hold it because it conducts the heat out of your hand faster than you can produce it.

>> No.18623518

>>18614257
gold has lower premiums and will move upward first

>> No.18623521

>>18623330
yes that basically standard price £360-70
cucks buying them on ebay for £400+
Queens beasts and britannias are goodor double sobs as they too are currency.
buy up the old queens beasts. wait a few years and then sell them individually with a premium and get current year ones for less. if you dont care about the coins and just the gold that is.
dont bother with any proof shit if all you are looking for is metal

>> No.18623533

>>18623472
Those are only 90% silver (other 10% is copper). All value on those is numismatic.

>> No.18623543

>>18614432
I have never seen those Alexander drachmae in silver

>> No.18623667

>>18623521
thanks for the advice
just noticed their double sovereigns have a significantly lower premium than the singles

>> No.18623682

I just did my second buy in today. 2oz Gold and 30oz silver.

Not going to do much more unless hyperinflation kicks in or PMs drop like a rock (my only new buy conditions). Looking to buy a home once the market pops so keeping cash freed up to jump in when ready.

Will post-stack when it arrives.

>> No.18623703

>>18614819

The last issue of silver dollars was in 1928, it was revived in 1934-35 and then discontinued. Dollars were still legal tender, but rather infrequent, however all other coinage was minted in 90/10 silver (as it had been for almost 150 years) until 1964.

>> No.18623769

>>18619709

Pretty sure when you sell, unless it is a completely "under the table transaction" someone is reporting that transaction

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18623773

>>18614071
About to buy 5g gold from PAMP and 10 Silver Brittianias, Is this a good investment?? It's going to be my first precious metal investment.

>> No.18623779

> gold
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.18623799

>>18623773
>PAMP
from where

>> No.18623810
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18623810

>>18622796
>>18622931
Countries that produce more silver than gold will find it more advantageous to adopt a bi-metallic or tri-metallic (copper) standard rather than a simple gold standard.

>> No.18623816

>>18621907
He's gone from gold to being all-in on silver.

>> No.18623824

>>18623799
I'm buying it from gold.co.uk the company thats actually making is PAMP some swiss company

>> No.18623842

>>18622796
>>18623810
Also, when there's a rush into gold from retail investors but some guy's life savings only buys a few ounces, they start buying silver as well. When they moon they tend to moon together.

>> No.18623844

>>18623773
hold off on the fractional gold unless your getting a deal on it. Fractions arent really worth it, hold off for a full ounce of Au.

>> No.18623864

>>18623844
Should I put the rest in Silver then?

>> No.18623894

>>18623472
Quoting again, but I ran the numbers on it:
Assuming a $20/ozt physical price (vs the paper price which is down), silver value on that is 21.45. Silver content in 90% US coins is assumed to be 0.715 ozt per dollar, so .715 is used as a multiplier:
20 (dollars per ounce physical) * .715 (ounces in a dollar of 90% US coinage) * 1.50 (face value of coins) == $21.45 in silver content.

So, you're paying $3.65 in numismatic premium for just under 1.1 ozt. Could do worse?

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Alpha stack checking in

>> No.18623986

>>18620384
silver will moon eventually in tandem with gold because of the ''metals meme''

>> No.18624008

>>18623864
go for it its your money, i only suggest that buying that little amount of gold isnt really worth it in the long run.

>> No.18624027

>>18624008
Alright, thanks for the advice I'll keep it in mind

>> No.18624035

>>18623810
why should they put a bi-metallic standard?
Couldn't they simply do bitcoin/gold pegged to dollar?

>> No.18624100

>>18614354
If it ever got this bad a simple can of tuna or beans would have the same effect desu.

>> No.18624178

>>18623894

Where did you come up with that retarded calculation?

Calculate the premium from the spot price, not what you think physical silver is selling.

>> No.18624303

>>18624035
It's in the interest of countries that produce silver to have silver be a money asset similar to gold

>> No.18624440

>>18624178
Right, use the retarded paper value that's overselling the actual amounts available...

>> No.18624467

>>18618471

Is that the Russian Bullion?

>> No.18624468

Unless you’re already rich, stop trying to stack gold/silver as your “make it” method

These are for wealth preservation. You can’t preserve something you don’t have.

How, then, can you capitalize on the current environment you ask?

Buy fucking precious metal miners you fool. They’re highest cost (oil) is DIRT CHEAP. PM demand is rocketing.

These companies are making money from digging up money and will outperform gold and silver easily.

>> No.18624522

>>18624468
Which ones and regular mining stocks or etf's

>> No.18624561

>>18624440

Buying 6 quarters for 66% over spot when there are cheaper options is a fool's errand. If you think the going rate for physical silver is $21, why would you pay more than $21?

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18624612

>scottsdale finally ships my over 1 month old order
>click on their tracking number
>pic related pops up

Am I about to get the wrong order in the mail? Some other anons tiny or large order will be sent to me instead? It asked for ship date and zip code to give me specific shipping data but it didnt work. Pic related still comes up with USPS

>> No.18624639

>>18623215
European Mint

>> No.18624792

>>18624639
They sell it, thank you dude!

>> No.18624978

>>18624561
Because numismatic premiums are a thing, and high-grade proof coins can command values beyond their silver price?

>> No.18624984

GDX and/or GDXJ + SIL and/or SILJ are the safest bets unless you’re planning on doing serious digging.

>> No.18625022

>>18623224
At my local gold bullion store, Agio is ~5%, i usually buy cheaper coins but one of those for the memes why not

>> No.18625037

>>18615295
BASED pan man

>> No.18625050

>>18620455
>money that was abandoned before I was born is the only real money
>the detriments of that abandonment outweigh the benefits so we'll surely use it as money again

we can't actually use PM's as money, there's not enough. And if you think people are going to use them anyways, making you suddenly and extraordinarily wealthy, you're much dumber than average. Which is why PM's are advertised on Fox and 4chan and Facebook where dumb people congregate.

>> No.18625135

>>18616707
Just three atm

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18625174

>>18617509
I concur, indubitably.

>> No.18625195

>>18618471
That background is terrible though.

>> No.18625223

>>18620092
Good memetic energy for protecting your stack although guy named Larry already cornered the market.

>> No.18625368

>>18622860
>dealers don’t want to buy back
>it’s going to moon big time
I remember seeing this post but I don’t understand how these can both be true at the same time. Can someone explain to a brainlet who has otherwise taken the silberpill wholeheartedly?

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>>18615295
>I want to look around some time for old school bullion to put in a big treasure box
Based

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18625589

>>18624468
>>18624522
Barrick Gold is trading at a P/E of 11.64 but has cheap mines and just spent their time leading up to now with a new CEO clearing their debts and selling off low-performing mines.

Says they have mines that will produce 5 million ounces produced for AISC under $1000/oz for 10 years minimum.

That's under 50 billion dollars in the next 10 years to produce 50 million ounces of gold. If gold goes to $3000/oz like Bank of America says, that's 150 billion+ in revenue, 100 billion of which is pure profit. The company is currently valued at $66.3 billion

This shit is a fucking gold mine waiting to happen, literally.

EASY, braindead tier 2-3x your investment.

https://business.financialpost.com/commodities/mining/barrick-buckling-down-for-grunt-work-ahead-ceo-bristow-says

>> No.18625622

>buy gold and silver
>prices blast off to the moon and beyond reaching the Andromeda system
>everyone rejoices and sells their PM's for lambo money
>everyone refuses to buy

>banks jews reptilians etc all buy gold and silver
>plebs buy the little remnants for insane premiums
>prices begin to go up
>banks jews etc all sell their stocks to tank prices
>plebs get scared at falling prices and sell their supply
>banks jews etc buy it up in mass for cheap
>prices go back up
>repeat

What is stopping these 2 scenarios from happening?

>> No.18625656
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18625656

Got my first oz of silver today. It’s heavier than I thought but it’s probably the case. More coming.

>> No.18625770

>>18625050
Theres enough, the value will just have to increase ten fold

>> No.18625783

>>18625656
yeah an NGC slab weighs well over a standard ounce by itself

>> No.18625805

>>18614257
capsule is sexier, but if u can get discount on a roll then just buy empty capsules and put them in urself. although i hate the idea of handling my coins directly with my hands. maybe buy some cotton gloves, i read somewhere that rubber gloves fuck with it but not sure.

>> No.18625815

>>18625770
yes, that's what I said

there's not enough and if you think people are going to use it anyways making you extraordinarily wealthy you're very dumb.

>> No.18625847

>>18624440
>Right, use the retarded paper value that's overselling the actual amounts available...
Value is based on what the demand is -- how much can you sell it for?
Value is NOT based on what you paid for it. Paying a stupidly high premium doesn't mean your coins are suddenly worth much more than spot if nobody will buy them at that price.

>> No.18625848

>>18625783
That’s what I figured. It’s a hefty fucking case.

>> No.18625889

>>18614603
wheres your father? women are dumb af over money (generally). if ur father is out of the picture then u become the man of the house if ur staying there.

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>>18625847
I don't think you understand what goes into establishing the spot price. There are about 170 'paper' ounces of silver for every 1 real ounce, and the trading of these 'paper' ounces is overwhelmingly what drives the spot. However, as more and more people begin demanding the delivery of the physical metal they are (in theory) entitled to by having a 'paper' ounce the physical metal price and the paper dominated spot price begin to divorce from each other. Even at the 1000 troy oz bar level, you can see that they are going for $17500-$18000 compared to the 15.05/oz spot right now.

When there's that level of disconnect at the commodity trading level, its more than just a seller's premium. The percieved 'premium' on silver is just the actual price of the metal without 'paper' silver pushing it down.

>> No.18626071

>>18625848
I'd keep it though

there's so many Chinese counterfeits flooding the market right now a slabbed coin will likely go for a big fat premium over the ~$17 it costs to get it verified and graded once people start to realize all their US silver is fake.

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18626079

>>18623472
>>18623894
>>18624978
>Because numismatic premiums are a thing, and high-grade proof coins can command values beyond their silver price?

* original price $29.99 (pic related)
* total metal weight: 1.08 ounces
* total mintage of set: 299183

Maybe numismatic premiums are a thing, but not in this case.

>> No.18626138

>>18626045
either that or he's right and enough metal exists and there are transportation or supply issues making delivery more expensive.

Buying a paper ounce doesn't pay for minting an ounce or shipping it.

>> No.18626168

>>18625815
I just like shiny rocks, i have a good job and savings so I'm not looking to get extremely wealthy from my collectable assets

>> No.18626220

>>18626168
I'm the same.
I collect coins and bullion but just for the feel and look of them. It's a decent place to put savings but I don't expect to get rich off it.

>> No.18626229

>>18624303
>It's in the interest of countries that produce silver to have silver be a money asset similar to gold
but we know that USA will be the leader if they say ''money is pegged to gold'' why a bunch of pajeet states should have any relevance with their silver production?

>> No.18626248

>>18626229
The US is also sitting on absurd amounts of silver in the ground.

>> No.18626250

>>18624612
bump

pls respon uwu

>> No.18626304

>>18626045
>The percieved 'premium' on silver is just the actual price of the metal without 'paper' silver pushing it down.

Actually, physical investments are only a small fraction of the actual demand for Silver. These premiums are a result of limited supply of coins/rounds/bars, not a huge demand for the metal overall.

>what is arbitrage?

If you think that spot/real prices are so out of whack, then I've got an easy proposition for you. Just redeem 50,000 ounces at spot from SLV, which holds physical metal in NYC (this is the minimum redemption value), then turn around and sell them at whatever premium you think is proper. Easy money!

>> No.18626356

>>18626138
>Buying a paper ounce doesn't pay for minting an ounce
Buying a kilo doesn't pay for minting it in ounces either. The goal is to pay the minimum premium, and paper silver lets you do that.

>> No.18626378

>>18614071
Where can I buy batbois in Australia?

>> No.18626395

>>18626229
There's another level of complexity that makes his conjecture and your question both meaningless-

silver isn't usually mined by the state that owns it. Just like oil and gold it's mostly mined by wealthy foreign companies.

and to make things even more confusing, those foreign companies are also not owned by the states they're based in or the states they work in. They're generally owned by shareholders from all over the world.

in mining and energy the country really doesn't matter anymore unless it's China or Iran or something where the state literally owns the metals it produces. Even then those guys subcontract out a lot of the work to foreigners and ultimately foreign shareholders.

metal almost never belongs to the state that produces it.

>> No.18626411

>>18626071
Definitely will. The money I put in metal is going to be long term as possible.

>> No.18626430

>>18626304
Force majure, they can settle in cash if they want.

>> No.18626435

>>18626356
>The goal is to pay the minimum premium, and paper silver lets you do that.
yes.

just trying to explain to the anon why there may be a disconnect in prices without an actual disconnect in value. Processing and transporting metal tacks on costs. Particularly if there's not enough processed and transported yet to meet demands.

not necessarily a shortage of silver, just a local shortage.

>> No.18626489

>>18626411
should age well, those ultra cameos are relatively rare.

>> No.18626507

>>18626430
>Force majure
You don't even know what that means.

> they can settle in cash if they want.
Who? SLV? The entire way the ETF works to track spot price is by creating/redeeming units of physical silver. If you really feel that the spot price is underpriced to what the "actual" price, then this is what you do.

>> No.18626534

>>18626435
>just trying to explain to the anon why there may be a disconnect in prices without an actual disconnect in value
ah, yes, absolutely

>> No.18626563

>>18626507
https://www.businessinsider.com/cme-declares-force-majeure-due-to-operational-limitations-on-nyc-gold-depository-2012-11

If they dont have it they can settle in cash. You are either a retard or shill. I'm up in the on which though.

>> No.18626705

>>18625656
>Got my first oz of silver today.
>PF 69

why?? I hope you bought it for sentimental reasons or I hope you didn't pay too much premium, because you're not going to make that back with almost 30,000 PF 70 ratings for that exact coin running around.

https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/silver-eagles-pscid-76/2010-w-eagle-s1-pf-coinid-710082

>> No.18626755

>>18626563
>If they dont have it they can settle in cash. You are either a retard or shill.

CME is a futures exchange.
SLV is an ETF.

>what are future contracts?
>what are redemption units?

Do you seriously not know the difference between the two? If not, I can explain it, but maybe you could research how the mechanisms differ between the two

>> No.18626787

>>18626705
30k isn't a lot for a US coin in numismatics.
also the PF 70 rating doesn't necessarily reflect the population of cameos and ultras.

He'll probably get his money back if he sits on it for a couple decades. Seems like a lot to the get-rich-quick dreamers on /biz/ but coin collectors look at value over lifetimes, not weeks or months.

>> No.18626804

>>18626755
Ok so a retarded shill, got it. The point stands if they dont have it they can settle in cash.

>> No.18626845

>>18626804
>Ok so a retarded shill, got it.
kek
you sure showed him

>> No.18626872

>>18625622
>oh hi sir I’ll take that house with 100oz of silver
>no need to deal with cash when I have High-Quality Collateral

>> No.18626938

>>18626845
So you are telling me I can get 50,000 oz of SLV and they have no way of saying they cant deliver physical if I demanded delivery? You are the one who doesn't understand force majeure.

>> No.18627008

>>18626938
Now you're confusing two similar looking ID's

I'm not telling you anything. You seem to be retarded so I'm not going to argue with you. Go on being retarded.

>> No.18627072

>>18627008
Well crap.

On a side note if ASEs are a bit pricey any good ideas for alternatives? I'm thinking minted stuff from the supplier I buy from.

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imagine investing in a commodity with positive value

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>>18627279

>> No.18628080

>>18624612

Had this bite me in the ass a few weeks ago. The postage was purchased, but it hasnt been processed through the USPS yet

>> No.18628119

>>18628080
So things are fine then so far? Going to rage pretty hard if some guy gets my package and I cant do shit because tracking says delivered.

>> No.18628198

>>18628119

I would say wait until tomorrow afternoon and check again, the USPS should have finally processed it.

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18628247

how many batbois have been sold so far?

anybody got any current data?

>> No.18628402

>>18626705
I’m not looking to make a quick buck with it. As I said long term hold. Maybe my grandkids will have some luck with it down the line.

>> No.18628416

>>18623816
Mighty kek

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>>18625589
>>18624522
>>18624468

Is there any reason not simply to buy the GDX and the GDXJ, rather than mess about with individual gold-mining companies? I bought in pretty close to the bottom and I have already nearly doubled my money, and I don't see that I'd be doing any better had I bought Barrick Gold or any of the other individual companies. Are there any companies which are actually preferable to these two ETFs?

>> No.18628811

>>18628744
ETF is likely to do well. Just recommending Barrick because IMO it's undervalued compared to the other stocks. It's trading at a P/E under 12 and all those other companies on the image I posted are either in some sketchy country like Russia, don't have any declared earnings, or have high P/Es and their growth is priced in.

Barrick has no debt, tons of cash (can make lots of deals), a gold mining veteran/redpilled South African as CEO and is currently undervalued by the market.

>> No.18628832

>>18628811

Thank you, I'll look into it and consider buying some shares.

>> No.18629129

>>18626804
>Ok so a retarded shill, got it. The point stands if they dont have it they can settle in cash.

Okay, so you obviously have a learning disability. Let me explain:

For a physical ETF like SLV the ETF tracks the price of silver through arbitrage. ETF is priced above spot, people transfer silver metal to the ETF and sell shares, ETF is below spot, people buy shares and redeem them for physical metal. That's how physical ETFs work.

If you're curious, here's a quote from GLD:

"the creation process literally involves transferring bars of gold from the AP’s account at HSBC to the Trust’s account in exchange for one or more baskets of shares."

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1222333/000119312514286430/d767060dfwp.htm

They can't settle in cash because it's not a cash trust.

You'll still shout stupid memes though I'm sure.

>> No.18629152

>>18626938
>So you are telling me I can get 50,000 oz of SLV and they have no way of saying they cant deliver physical if I demanded delivery?

Physical ETFs own the underlying metals. On most of them you can get an actual list of the serial numbers of the bars involved. There is no "force majeure" because there's no binding contract here, idiot.

>> No.18629212

>>18629129

Even mainstream websites like Forbes doubt that GLD and SLV have the gold which they claim they do. What is your agenda here? Why are you turning up in every thread, defending these paper ETFs?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2011/11/15/is-gld-really-as-good-as-gold/#21c4d54457c2

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>>18628811
>>18628744
Another anon here, I got in GDXJ at 29 during the first dip. Appreciate the valuations of Barrick. I've been eyeballing Franco-Nevada and GDX...part of me is bummed I didn't get in sooner but the other part of me says there's still plenty of room to grow and I should get in at the next little dip.

Best of luck out there.

>> No.18629273

>>18629212
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2011/11/15/is-gld-really-as-good-as-gold/#21c4d54457c2
"This article is more than 8 years old"

Are you fucking serious?

>> No.18629325

>>18629212
>Even mainstream websites like Forbes doubt that GLD

What's your agenda? You must be some kind of bagholder trying to sell krusty the klown rounds you bought at $30.

Methinks you're just a shill trying to offload overpriced coins on other rubes.

>thinks an ancient article asking questions means "doubt"

I understand that it's a complex financial product, and complexity is not your strong point, but just the big boys take care of it and keep on crying about premiums. Okay?

>> No.18629458

>>18629325
You're a retarded shill.

Heres all you need to know. Best bet is the PSLV and PHYS because they actually have delivery without the hassle of making an allocated account and paying delivery to pick it up at London. A bank being the custodian for your paper silver/gold doesnt inspire any confidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqoQ9DxMrw0

>> No.18629478

>>18623769
Bullion over .9995 fineness is ezempt from tax in my country. Last piece I bought, I paid in cash and my name is recorddd no where.

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These dead Kennedy's worth anything?

>> No.18630258

>>18630047
They're 40% silver

>> No.18630318

>>18622860
I think I get the gist of what he's saying but Holy fuck does he type like a schizo.

>> No.18630373

>>18630258
Cool shit. Thanks man.

>> No.18630410

>>18630047
64's were 90%. Kennedy arguably was assasinated for fucking over the jews. He allowed the treasury to issue money instead of the jews issuing money. It was done done with Executive Order 11110. His red seal bills are collectibles. 1 year of 90% coins were minted in 64. Then after the jews killed him they changed it to 40% to rub it in.

>> No.18630431

>>18628247
14k from us mint, not sure about the bullion ones

>> No.18630479

Hey, guys. DON'T go to JCPenny and pick up gold chains for dirt cheap
Beware of gold plated. They do have some semi-solid and hollow chains in 10K to 18K. It's about as close to spot as you can get right now.
Also, hit up ((( jew)))erly stores like James Avery and buy out their gold inventory.

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Just clean them out.

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>>18623824
>gold.co.uk
If you're buying gold in the UK buy gold minted by the Royal Mint. Only gold minted by the UK is exempt from capital gains tax when you sell it later.

>> No.18630649

>>18630538
What's the weight of the ring

>> No.18630671

>>18630538
>14k gold
>women ring (~2 grams on average)

You're paying at least 70% premiums at that price. It's terrible compared to bullion.

>> No.18630752

>>18630671
Well, I will bite the bullet. They have a 30 day guarantee and will 100% refund the money. I'll do the maths and post it here soon in a few weeks probably.
just asked but they said it was a (((manufacturing secret))) and that the quality will be great

Lmao they know a massive gold run coming and there is nothing that can stop it.

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they got some heckin' chonkers.
The (((jew)))lers told me that they do not have the weights provided because it's a "secret" and "polishing" effects the final weight.
Fuck 'em. Go balls deep and buy their inventory.
Mines aren't coming back online anytime soon.
Mints aren't going to start production any time soon.
This is the happening of all happenings.

>> No.18630942

>>18630927
Fresh bread

>> No.18630976

>>18614257
>She has 4k on her paypal she saved from saving change for the year.
I have a great deal of questions.

>> No.18631057

>>18630976
that's not an extraordinary amount for a normal gen X middle class person that shops with cash

I'm a millionaire and I save about $1k per year in change despite running 90% of my expenses through rewards cards

>> No.18631094

>>18631057
>normal gen X middle class person that shops with cash
I fit all those categories. Maybe except 'normal'. Still my change in a year doesn't break $1k.
I believe you. I'm just surprised.

>> No.18631495

>>18625050
>dumb people congregate.
Do smart people like you congregate on Reddit?

>> No.18631555

>>18631495
I've never used reddit

from what I've seen they're almost as dumb as 4chan and facebook

>> No.18631570

>>18631094
are you married? Have kids?

wives and kids generate enormous amounts of change with stupid little purchases all day every day.

>> No.18631961

>>18614320
Bruh I am 19 and have been into precious metals for 4 months and I have more silver than you

>> No.18632002

>>18616707
Twenty

>> No.18632108

So how and where do you buy silver at the moment? I've seen none availible since the price crashed a few weeks ago. Even the stuff with insane markups are out of stock.

>> No.18632452

>>18632108
Provident metals, JM Bullion, SDBullion, Scottsdale Mint. I dont like apmex because of markup

>> No.18632517

>>18615571
If low premiums, yes.

>> No.18632726

>>18631570
>wives and kids generate enormous amounts of change
no wife or kids
mystery solved

>> No.18632859

>>18632726
yep

I personally never spend cash except on hookers and they don't give change

wife and kids spend wads of cash every day

>> No.18633161

>>18632452
Am I missing something? All 1 Oz silver bars are OUT OF STOCK, and have been for weeks. If they had them, they'd be charging $3/Oz over spot.

https://www.jmbullion.com/silver/silver-bars/1-oz-silver-bars/

>> No.18633523

>>18625815
Anon >>18626045 gets it.

>>18626356
Problem is, if you buy paper you hold just that.... paper. If you try to take delivery of that silver, you're likely to get the runaround while they try to BS you into not actually taking it for the following reason:

They don't have it.

This is why you're seeing such outlandish "premiums" for physical silver. It's not just an arbitrary markup, it's what an actual ounce of silver in the hand goes for.

You can be a paper silver bagholder if you like. I'll take actual, hold on to it silver over some kikish IOU.

>> No.18633569

>>18632108
go to JMBullion, mouse over Silver and select In Stock under the menu
https://www.jmbullion.com/search/?q=#/?_=1&page=1&perpage=60&filter.metal_type=Silver&filter.instock.low=1&filter.instock.high=1

>> No.18633579

>>18630410
So you're saying Johnson was more pozzed and so the kikes shoah'd Kennedy so that he'd sign the Coinage Act of 1965?

>> No.18633646

>>18633579
LBJ was part of the cabal who wanted to assassinate JFK. keep in mind LBJ also ran for president. JFK fucked up big time by appointing him as his VP. you never ever want to appoint someone VP who also had an aspiration to be president.

LBJ also wanted to go to war in vietnam and he did. his wife made millions investing in the company that built huey helicopters. this is all historical fact, you can look it up. LBJ fucking hated JFK.

it's a classic case of a chad thinking he was invincible and he allowed traitors into his orbit.

>> No.18633670

weird how bars are sold out but there's coins in stock. best deal right now is .9999 roo coins but no roo bars anywhere.

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got me three of these bad bois

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>>18632108
I grabbed these on JMBullion the other day, saw some on apmex too. The 100oz bars were all sold out a couple weeks ago but recently came back in stock. Probably won't be for long though

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Those .999 Fine Silver ATB 5 oz Coins ... many of them in the series have appreciated multiple times in value. How safe is it to assume that the 2020 National Park of American Samoa editions will at least 3x over a year or two? I only wonder what the mintage is going to be regarding these in particular, taking into account the events that have transpired during its release. What do you think?

>> No.18634093

>>18634001
where did you get that pepe plushie

>> No.18634102

>>18634001
55k for shiny and 20k for the frosted ones, answer this >>18634093

>> No.18634134

>>18634093
Answer the question.
>>18634102
Thanks. I confirmed the 20k vapor blasted mintage, can’t confirm the 55k bullion mintage. Hashtag Collectibles.

>> No.18634197

>>18621907
He was really fair skinned to begin with

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Pro tip anons.

Perth Mint is the only sovereign mint operating right now at low premium and delivery within 2 weeks.

>T. Just took delivery of some 2020 Roos and silver bars.

Spot silver in AUD $24.09

1oz silver kangaroo coin $29.84 per oz
1kg silver bar- $25.44 per oz

Spot gold in AUD $2714.95

1oz 2020 gold roo- $2860.69 per oz
1kg bar- $2736 per oz

>> No.18634227

>>18634134
>Hashtag Collectibles
thanks fren

>> No.18635098

Palladium might actually be a legitimate purchase if cold fusion takes off. Palladium is critical for the process

>> No.18635454

>>18635098
>industrial metal
Is palladium also needed in catalytic converters?

Honestly, after seeing the explosion in the oil markets, I’m looking to see what commodities could be next. Could be the industrial metals. This might be the best time to short silver, copper, palladium.

Not sure about platinum, that seems to be the new precious metal, up there with gold. Even though it’s especially valuable for engineering purposes like spacecraft.

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>>18625050
>we can't actually use PM's as money, there's not enough
You think we're going to all be trading pieces of 8 for fucking gas? When people talk about using PMs as real money again, they're talking about making the currency actually backed by gold again.

Also, it's not the only money but it is the best money. It meets all of the criteria better than anything, with crypto being a close second. There have been gold/silver resets throughout history after economies wandered away from them.

>> No.18635802

>>18634215
I bought 2019 1 oz silver at 21.50 USD nigga

>> No.18635824

>>18635640
>>18635640
>cryptocurrency
>durable and portable and a means of exchange
Ehhh... being able to trade it on the internet or use it at a a few coffee shops doesn’t really make it a means of exchange.

It’s also useless without electricity, and not very useful without the internet so... portable and durable seem like an exaggeration to me.

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>>18634001
I’m about to - I’m seriously thinking about pulling the trigger on another mint-sealed bat box. How fucked would that be?

>> No.18635861

>>18635802
$21.50USD = $34.00AUD

If you bought that local then with shipping, forex and dealer fee that’s not a bad buy.

Order direct from Perth mint would be $18.30USD per coin plus shipping

>> No.18635877

>>18623963
What is this even

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>>18614071
>>18614071
Poured, Pressed, or Coins?

>> No.18636134

>>18635966
coins and poured, pressed has no soul

>> No.18636502

>>18631961
He is 18 an into PMs for 2 months