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/SMG/ - Stock Market General

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>> No.18601684

>>18601672
fucking based

>> No.18601699

stop making two threads

>>18600392

>> No.18601703
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>>18601684
FUCK STICKIES

Mama mia the S&P just dropped

>> No.18601707

Thank you based SQQQ SDOW SPXS

Bear gang represent

>> No.18601708

>>18601672
Fuck bear posters

>> No.18601713

﴾・ ͜つ・﴿

>> No.18601728

>>18601699
Some guy got mad I made a thread without a sticky and made that one afterwards. Everyone used mine because it was made first and then it started auto-saging, so I made another.

His is only up because no one is using it.

>> No.18601729
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>pension funds under funded

>oil jobs will be gone

>no economy

>forbearance at almost 6%

>> No.18601735
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For bulls this must be simply unBEARable

>> No.18601736

I

WANT

TO

DIE

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( ͡°ᴥ ͡°)

>> No.18601745

Ugh it says here my pc may be infected

>> No.18601787

Buy NFLX EOD for earnings?

>> No.18601790

kill yourself newfag op

>> No.18601792

>market starts recovering already since Trump announced ANOTHER bailout
What the fuck happened to capitalism? Why is it bailout after bailout?

>> No.18601797

RIP bulls

>> No.18601798
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Making bank this week.

>> No.18601804
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>>18601735

>> No.18601806

>>18601792
SP500 is shitting itself, wtf are u talking about.

>> No.18601814

What are the chances we see a circuit breaker?

>> No.18601817

>>18601792
Capitalism causes these bailouts because capitalism means the big guys (corporations so large they have more money than governments) have governments by the balls (because governments have less money), which is the very point of capitalism.

>> No.18601824

>>18601814
0 unless something apocalyptic happens

>> No.18601832

>>18601814
I'd say pretty high right now. Maybe 40%.

>> No.18601833

>>18601824
We wont see them anymore, just a slow and steady downward trend.

>> No.18601838
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18601838

we retraced almost the 61,80% of the crash. idk, this is a lot more than i would have expected.

>> No.18601840

ꔸل͜ꔸ mad >>18601790

>> No.18601849
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18601849

I covered by put yesterday.

MFW I could have $2000 more if I did it today.

>> No.18601857

>>18601626
My state fucked up. Now our governor (whom has his head up Fredo's ass) is just following NY's lead and is going to drive our economy off a fucking cliff. I hate it.

>> No.18601860
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18601860

What do your portfolios look like right now guys?
Also
>inb4 USO
Had it before the dump, thank God I only had 30 shares
Might take a look at dividend anon's chart and buy some stocks from there when I get paid friday

>> No.18601867

>>18601838
it's a long way down. It's actually funny watching the news and seeing them change their narratives every other day ᘳ ゚ ε ゚ᘰ

>> No.18601868

>>18601833
desu I would prefer crashing and burning to 10k rather than 2 years of slow bleeding

>> No.18601872

>>18601814
How red even is a circuit breaker? -5%? 10?

>> No.18601874

How long will it take for XOM to recover?

>> No.18601880

>>18601728
Hold fucking shit. You redditors are so god damn pathetic.

>> No.18601889

>>18601860
DHT
FB
FRO
IP
JPM
NAT
RTX
TK

>> No.18601893

I DIDNT SELL MY SPY AT 286 TWICE ITS NOW 272 AND NOW I HAVE NO MONEY TO BUY THE OIL DIPS TODAY

>> No.18601894

>>18601874
To it's previous high? A decade

>> No.18601903

>>18601880
? I made a thread quickly because the smg was on page 4 without a new one and 1 guy got butt blasted I didn't include the sticky

୨ᴥ୧

>> No.18601912

>>18601872
7%, then 13%, then 20%. First 2 are 15m breaks, last is day break.

>> No.18601918

>>18601893
soon you will kys when SPY is going further down.

>> No.18601922

>>18601860
Holy shit. You should sell everything except HAL the second you have minimal losses.

>> No.18601934

WHERE THE FUCK IS *CLACK* *CLACK* POSTER

>> No.18601939

>>18601860
Unironically I am all in on SPXS and TVIX since yesterday

I've made a lot today ୨ʘᴥʘ୧

>> No.18601941

>>18601849
I saw this movie. It's like someone hit a fucking random button.

>> No.18601945

>>18601903
Congrats on being clinically retarded.

>> No.18601947

>>18601860

Why the fuck are you staking your future on that sand-nigger juice?

>> No.18601949

>>18601893
Why wouldn't you sell yesterday at least

>> No.18601952

i'm up 350k and i'm fucking shaking i don't know what to do i just want to turn this into at least 500k

>> No.18601957

>>18601857
in jersey?

>> No.18601959
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>>18601867
yeah, the news guys are the biggest clowns.

but they just report what they see. markets go up, they look for "reasons" why they went up, without actually having any clue why and vice versa when they fall.

>> No.18601965

>>18601947
>my future
bro it's not even 1500 bucks lol, and nowhere near what I have in cash right now

>> No.18601967

>>18601934
We’re not clacking up anymore

>> No.18601970

>>18601952
you sell and take the money you fucking moron

>> No.18601973
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18601973

Why did people unironically say "May prices dont matter, only june prices do"

Not surprising in the slightest that june prices today are acting exactly like may prices were yesterday

>> No.18601982

>>18601952
Set all your stop losses 1ATR below the current price and wait. If it goes up you keep on winning, if it goes down you keep the great majority of your profit.

>> No.18601988

>>18601672


Where is the nearest bull?


My hairy bear cock needs servicing

>> No.18601992

>>18601959
One lady said "the market likes honest news" when earnings were terrible and the market was rallying last week

>> No.18601996

>>18601952
Just set a stop loss at like 330k profit.

>> No.18602004

>>18601973
This feels like a dump from retail speculators who just saw may retail speculators get absolutely raped on national TV. And I unironically think these retail speculators got in because of Trump's "deal".

>> No.18602030

>>18601817
>capitalism means the big guys (corporations so large they have more money than governments) have governments by the balls

this isn't capitalism. A free market does not allow for securing interests via the government. What you are describing is communist central planning forces interfering with a free market. Almost all billionaires are leftists.

>> No.18602037

>>18601952
What did you do to get there? Some sort of amazing put?

>> No.18602042

what are the chances of TVIX actually going back to $600?

>> No.18602053
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>>18601992

>> No.18602058

>>18601952
sell half of it

>> No.18602062

>>18601729
Post porn of the girl on the left (guy on the right is okay too)

>> No.18602064

>>18602030
This

>> No.18602080
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>>18601973
"sell in may and go away"

>> No.18602083

>>18601941
HE SAVED EVERY ONE OF US

>> No.18602085
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18602085

GO BELOW 272!!! GO BELOW 272 NOW!!!

NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!

>> No.18602086

>>18601957
Communisticut

>> No.18602087

>>18602042
Slim

>> No.18602098
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>>18602030

>> No.18602114

>>18602030
>capitalism isn't about money = power
>free market isn't about highest bidder lowest cost
>~real~ capitalism is when the government does not obey capitalistic laws
Are you retarded or just pretending?

>> No.18602118

Bears need to find their balls to break 2718 or EW black magic this goes to 2920 in a week.

>> No.18602129

this might be the bottom for the coming 2 weeks. not sure yet but be ready to buy some cheapies

>> No.18602133

>/pol/ memers
The US has been a corporate welfare state since 2008/2009.
Privatize the profits.
Socialize the losses.

>> No.18602151

>>18602133
Hey Pete

>> No.18602156
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>>18601792
>gov't forces companies at gunpoint to shutdown
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST PROP UP FAILED BUSINESSES MARX PREDICETED THIS I SHOULD BE GETTING THAT MONEY INSTEAD HOW WILL I PAY FOR MY HORMONE REPLACEMENT THERAPINOS ITS NOT FAIRRRRRRRR

>> No.18602164

>they're actually trying to pump it past the moving averages

hilarious

>> No.18602167
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18602167

AMZN is overvalued but the public doesn’t know. For reference I usually deliver 3x this amount. We are not immune to supply chain troubles.

>> No.18602178

yo guys

im new what do I do i got like 1 grand of spare money to throw around for the lols

>> No.18602183

>>18602167
At least Amazon has REVENUE

>> No.18602185

>>18602133
the US has been a socialist state since The New Deal

>> No.18602186

>>18602178
jnug

>> No.18602200

>>18602178
Well if you want to lose everything put it in USO

>> No.18602206

>>18602167
Show me something that isn't overvalued in this clown market

>> No.18602212

Closing my last bank swing position on the next small bounce and dumping the remaining 15% of my portfolio into that one gold ETF.

>> No.18602215

>>18602178
give it to me

>> No.18602227

>>18602167

you sell used dragon dildos. relax

>> No.18602229

>>18601952
don't be greedy fag, sell now

>> No.18602242

>>18602114
Cant even follow what you're saying. The industry heads vying for government bailouts and more regulation are doing so to limit competition in order to secure rent seeking profits. You seem to think that just because the US is historically capitalistic that it is free from authoritarian central planners and for some reason you insist on calling this capitalism when it is plainly the machinations of leftism

>> No.18602245

>forgot about robinhood's day trade limits
>sold a couple of stonks to get into that sweet sweet SCO pump
>won't be able to sell my inverse ETFs at eod
rip

>> No.18602254

>>18602167
It's that stimulus money.
New investors flocked to meme companies.

>> No.18602262

>>18602185
Welfate-lite state since New Deal. Corporate Welfare state since TARP.

>> No.18602272

>>18602245
It's not robinhood, it's a federal law.

>> No.18602279

>>18602200
why is that a bad idea?

>> No.18602287

bought 80 WFC at the bottom

>> No.18602289

>>18602242
It's not rocket science, Timmy. Big corp = rich = pays off a bunch of people to get free shit.
Govt = poor = accepts payouts.
Big corp = rich = exerts power over govt.
Govt = poor = must listen to big corp.
This is the very definition of capitalism: money = power. No money = get rekt.
>b-but muh gobmint shoulder b capimemetic in a capitalistic society
Oh Timmy, don't you have middle school homework to do while waiting for classes to start again?

>> No.18602294

>>18602272
Regardless, I worry about holding my bags overnight. Banking on the market continuing to shit itself this week.

>> No.18602311

>>18602279
June WTI futures are going to zero before USO needs to sell them and buy July futures

The trust will collapse

>> No.18602315

>>18602185
1913

>> No.18602317

So whats up with buying calls way out, like jan 2021? They cost so much more. Mannorino recommends doing this and says its the lowest risk. Why is that?

>> No.18602322

DAX is too cheap

it should be at 11500 by comparison with the US

>> No.18602327

>bulls trying to paint bull flags on the 1 min

>> No.18602347

>>18602289
What you are saying is essentially true, you just fail to recognize that the big corp is a central planning leftist seeking to use the government to skirt capitalism/free competition so that it can remain profitable in perpetuity

>> No.18602359

>>18602322
no, it's US stocks that are too expensive

>> No.18602362

*le yaawwns*

is it le time to buy ORMAT, lithium reserve miner stocks, ITEQ (black mirror type security) and information brokers (control more data than facebook) and ofc water stonkssz

>> No.18602371

What are you lads buying?

>> No.18602383

I CANT BUY NOTHING BECAUSE I USED ALL MY CASH ALREADY WHEN I BOUGHT THE TOP REEEEEEEE

>> No.18602384

Is jerome trying to save it at this point or are people actually buying back in to make us move .50% so suddenly?

>> No.18602386

>>18602371
NFLX EOD

>> No.18602389

>>18602371
lithium and CLGX, ADS, RAMP

>> No.18602395

>>18602347
those leftists are actually jews, anon
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/u-s-emergency-oil-supply-pact-with-israel

>> No.18602396

So we're going to the bottom now?

>> No.18602405

>/biz/ poster is back on CNBC

based

>> No.18602407

>tfw still bagholding SQQQ from 25

>> No.18602412
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>>18602396
yeah
at this rate it will only take few years to see it

>> No.18602415

got AMD short sells yesterday at 57.6 bought cover at 52.2 feels good man

>> No.18602416

>>18602395
ya pretty much

>> No.18602420

>>18602347
But it doesn't. Government is also a capitalistic organization. It does not give extra rights based on any other principle BUT capitalistic values. There is no difference between exerting pressure on government on account of your capital power and exerting pressure on the market on account of your capital power (such as by selling contracts to manufacturers to only sell your product in the form of a 90% rebate if you don't carry competitors, or by buying up any would-be competition or otherwise crushing them from within by hiring all their staff one by one, etc.)

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bear can't beat bulls.

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>NOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST HAVE AN AVERAGE P/E OF 30 I READ THE INTELLIGENT INVESTOR BEN GRAHAM IS ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE OVER THIS VALUATION ITS NOT FAIR EUROPEAN MARKETS ARE TRADING AT 10 P/E WE SHOULD BE MORE LIKE EUROPE I'M MOVING TO SWEDEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.18602427

Just the flu guys

>> No.18602428

>>18602327
let them have their fun too...panting candles

>> No.18602442

>>18601787
thats what i just did

>> No.18602445

>>18602371
CVX TOT PSX MRO TQQQ KO

>> No.18602448
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>>18601672
>oil surges +$43 dollars today
yeah im thinking we're back boys

>> No.18602456

>>18602317
Because it gives you more time for the expected move to happen. Even if you know for sure stocks will move up it could take months for it to happen. Also gives you the ability to exit the position without losing 90% of the money you put in

>> No.18602461
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18602461

REPORT IN WFC CHADS


ITS TIME TO BUY!

>> No.18602468

>>18601952
what did u buy

>> No.18602474
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18602474

Turn back time and domp eet again.

>> No.18602480

>>18602311
>looks at June USO PUTs
OHHH FUUUCK its fucking DEAD!

>> No.18602484

>>18602422

This but unironically

>> No.18602491

Have you guys been keeping up with Corona news?

There's now multiple studies that point to a massive infection 25-80 times the confirmed cases.

This means mortality will be super low for everyone but the 80+ year old boomer.

Things will be back to normal by June

>> No.18602493

FUCK STOP RECOVERING!!!! JUST FUCKING DIE ALREADY!!!

>> No.18602494

>>18602030
Oh shit it's retarded

>> No.18602498

>10 yr at 0.56%
Boomers, not content with ruining their children and grandchildren's lives, are now moving in on great grandchildren

>> No.18602501

>>18602167
amazon is too diverse to fail. they literally own grocery stores and cloud computing, both of which are doing excellent in stay at home coronaworld.

>> No.18602510

>>18602491
This is what I suspected all along.

>> No.18602512

>>18602407
your patience shall be rewarded

>> No.18602516

New to this and looking to buy and hold. Can anyone recommend the best place to download past performance of all shares, funds etc onto an excel before investing?

>> No.18602518

>>18602491
news about reinfections is what matters

>> No.18602524

>>18602133
Corprate capitalist hell Scape exactly

>> No.18602525

>>18602371
All in SPY puts expiring in three weeks.

>> No.18602529

>>18602493
this. i feel like im fighting a final boss in metal gear solid or something. fucking die SPY

>> No.18602533
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>>18602491
BASED

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>>18602448
Bearcucks absolutely btfo by this recovery

>> No.18602544

>>18602371
TSMC and INTC are decent buys.

TSMC is the manufacturer behind AMD's tech advantage - AMD just resells their shit and is way overvalued right now. TSMC's 20 PE is priced accurately. INTC is at 12PE and has a massive production capacity advantage and it's unclear that they are actually at risk of losing a significant amount of market share. Also it's likely they will be rolling out 10nm soon and 7nm in the next couple years while TSMC has 5nm.

AMD cannot expand production capacity because it has none, it relies on buying shit from TSMC.

>> No.18602545

>>18602185
>Socialism is when the government does things

>> No.18602548

>>18602529
How many forms does the S&P have?

>> No.18602553

>>18602498
Boomers would happily doom humanity for the rest of it's existence to make sure their retirements are secured

>> No.18602559
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18602559

I have 10 $280 SPY calls expiring today, but since i bought on leverage on RH my account will go negative. Can i just delete the app and it'll go away?

>> No.18602563

>>18602533
Yeah because it is spreading like the measles so if you don't lock down the elderly things will spin out of control fast

>> No.18602565

>>18602420
Government is an anti-capitalistic organization insofar as it interferes with the free market. This is the reason why we originally intended to have as limited a government as was feasible. Leftists, however, and to an extent unknowingly, have expanded the power of the government so that policy now unnaturally interferes with and plans the direction of the economy, which is not capitalism. You are making the mistake of associating the opportunity for successful players in capitalism to manipulate government as capitalism itself, when it is in fact the exact opposite.

>> No.18602569

U all know it will be 2600 before tomorrow right?

Its going down. Nothing we can do anymore.

Bubble is bursting.

>> No.18602578

>>18602534
>there are bears who didnt buy oil in time for the single day largest gain in the history of oil

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>>18602498
>30y barely holding 1%
GET DUNKED ON KIDDIES! LMAOOOOOOO!!!

>> No.18602586

>>18602529
infinite QE
negative interest rates

>> No.18602590

>>18602491
That doesn't matter because the speed of the spread can still overwhelm hospitals and shut down businesses when everyone's sick and not working. Infections still need to be flattened because everyone getting sick at once will fuck things up drastically. Quarantining older people and having most of the population slowly getting herd immunity is definitely looking like the way to go though. Reopening throughout now to May should be fine, but it has to be slowed down in places without hospital capacity.

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>when you hedge your TVIX with SPXS

Clown market calls for clown bear

>> No.18602594

>>18602347
Billionaires are only "lefty" so they don't look totally eveil

>> No.18602595

>>18602569
If dubs it will be at 3000 in two hours as Trump pulls up a Facebook livestream and pulls out a vaccine

>> No.18602601

>>18602491
That shit is based off a trash study that hasn't been peer reviewed, using an antibody test with a known high false positive rate. The fact that countries are experiencing a jump in deaths after trying to re-open proves it's bullshit.

>> No.18602604

>>18602491
Corona doesn't fucking matter, it's not the cause of the downturn. The production halt caused a bunch of financial arrangements to default.

>> No.18602609

>>18602565
>Government is an anti-capitalistic organization insofar as it interferes with the free market
It doesn't interfere with the free market any more than b2b deals do or price fixing does or monopolies do. And since lately governments have completely overlooked these things, clearly they're more capitalistic than ever.

> You are making the mistake of associating the opportunity for successful players in capitalism to manipulate government as capitalism itself, when it is in fact the exact opposite.
You have yet to give a single difference between two companies making a deal amongst themselves and a company dealing with a government.

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>>18602586
WHY WON'T YOU DIE

>> No.18602628

>>18602595

Lol no dubs sorry bro we goin down

>> No.18602634

>>18602544
>Also it's likely they will be rolling out 10nm soon and 7nm in the next couple years while TSMC has 5nm
EEfag here, you need to drill down past the marketing names for the process nodes and look at the technical specs.

>> No.18602635

anyone know why IHRT is down so much? besides the general market trend their looking like a good stock to buy and seem to make a shit ton of money. What am I missing here?

>> No.18602638

>>18602545
yes unironically faggot

government's purpose is to protect the border, constitution and enforce NAP

>> No.18602643

>>18602559
Of course, that's how it works after all. (ᴥ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6lu_wEsW0E

>> No.18602645

>I make threads without the sticky
>someone keeps getting mad and makes a second /smg/ thread WITH the sticky
>there's a strange absence of weebs and anime posters in mine

Hmmm

>> No.18602646

>>18602595
It will tumble when he pulls out lead paint and says how eating it will stop the 5G rays.

>> No.18602648

>>18602491
its fake news. very small sample study and theres no proof they were infected by the batflu, could have been any other coronavirus

>> No.18602651

will June contracts break into single digits today?

>> No.18602655

Whining about leftist billionaires who are buying the fuck out of this dip is absolutely retarded. Just follow the trend.

>> No.18602670

>>18602491
Singapore just for fun going into a lockdown until June 1st? Gottcha.

>> No.18602671

>>18602643
ᖗòᎲóᖘ

>> No.18602683

>>18602655
Buffett/Munger are holding off, should tell you something

>> No.18602694

>>18602683
Fuck back off to r*ddit

>> No.18602696

>>18602559
yes but first waht you want to do is "deposit" 2,000 from your bank put it all on a meme option and then withdraw all cash from your account, if you win on the option play withdraw the moon wins to bank and cash out. if you lose, delete app forever. another anon here did this with great success 2 weeks ago

>> No.18602699
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18602699

> I wonder what AMD is up to today
> mfw

>> No.18602700

>>18602648
Which study is fake news?

There are studies from

>Los Angeles
>Finland
>Germany
>Netherlands
>Italy

that all point to the same conclusion.

>> No.18602705

>>18602683
These are right wing retards who cling on """fundamentals""". This is the American communism.

>> No.18602710

>that sudden green candle
what's with these crazy sudden pumps? ᖗᴥᖘ

>> No.18602725

>>18602635
They have a ton of debt, they keep taking on more debt, they have a lot of stake in events which currently aren't happening, and a lot of small radio companies under their wings are all working from home/losing money thanks to new events.

Arguably less people are listening to the radio too since they aren't driving as much, but that's really just speculation on my part.

>> No.18602726

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.18602735

>he didnt buy when it bottomed
former bear here... i switched sides as soon as sqqq started going horizontal

>> No.18602737
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18602737

>>18602544
following on from >>18602634

Intel 7nm is being developed separately from 10nm so I don't expect it to be delayed.

>> No.18602743

We're pumping.

>> No.18602744

AHEM
POOMP IT

>> No.18602745
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>>18602671
Ha, it didn't copy in his eyes.

>> No.18602754

PUMP IT
LOUDER
PUMP IT
LOUDER

>> No.18602756
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18602756

Oil chads, what did you buy today?

Got some Transocean shares, they're trading at the penny of the dollar but the company is still robust enough to survive until oil comes back. Expect x2-x5 in two years time.

>> No.18602770

>>18602725
Thank you, Webull didn't have the debt as part of their financials, totally missed that! I'll avoid then!

>> No.18602774

>>18602737
thank you based EEfag I will now dump my life savings into intel

>> No.18602781

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI2IlHwmgQ

>> No.18602783

DOOOMMPPP IT JEROME!

>> No.18602786

POOOMMPPP IT JEROME!

>> No.18602787

i didn't buy tvix again lol

>> No.18602788

its gonna dump last 10 minutes, none of this matters.

Don't get cocky bulls.

>> No.18602791

>>18602756
PSX

>> No.18602814

So why is WTI leaning towards higher prices slowly while Brent is falling? Will WTI fall again? The situation is still the same as before I don't think the oil is demanded more than yesterday now.

>> No.18602821

>>18602788
This dead cat bounce has me nervous. I'm so close to just closing out my position and taking the rest of the week off... I mean it just came out that Amazon beat the Union cucks in France. I don't want to bet against a company that just defeated a euro cuck union's request. That's pretty based desu.

>> No.18602829
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>>18602626
fed machines, son

>> No.18602830

>>18602783
>>18602786
The duality of man

>> No.18602840

CNBC really got anthony fantano on talking about corona

>> No.18602842

>>18602601
>The fact that countries are experiencing a jump in deaths after trying to re-open proves it's bullshit.
Sauce on this?

>> No.18602845

>>18602788
>The increasingly nervous bear says again for the 30th straight day in a row

>> No.18602854

>>18602683
buffet has lost his touch

>> No.18602860

>>18602854
source?

>> No.18602861

WHO IS FUCKING BUYING I DON'T UNDERSTAND OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>> No.18602862

Please give me, an absolute retard, an explanation on what's happening in the stock market right now and where it will go

>> No.18602867

STOCKS. ONLY. GO. UP.

>> No.18602870
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18602870

POOMP IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI2IlHwmgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI2IlHwmgQ

>> No.18602873

>>18602756
>RIG
Has there even been a more boomer symbol?

>> No.18602877

>>18602862
market trying to be forward-looking and also getting pumped by stimulus and low rates, hence the divergence from headline reality

>> No.18602879

>>18602862
Stocks want to retest lows but Jerome unironically has destroyed all other alternative assets. Also a lot of ETF/index fund algos

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>>18602860

>> No.18602889

>>18602756
My dad is still unironically bagholding 1500 shares of RIG he bought at $40.

>> No.18602893

>>18602861
The federal government

>> No.18602895
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>>18602862
clown market
money isn't real, it's all a game of pretend

>> No.18602899

>>18602873
Yes, F.
>Ford To Report Q1 Earnings On Tues., Apr. 28 After Market Close
Oh lordy

>> No.18602903

All this stock market movement has me stressed. I'ma go smoke a cigarette.

>> No.18602905

>>18602609
>It doesn't interfere with the free market any more than b2b deals do or price fixing does or monopolies do. And since lately governments have completely overlooked these things, clearly they're more capitalistic than ever.
price fixing and monopolies are rightfully regulated through the Sherman anti-trust act. If you want to argue that this act falls short in its prevention goal, that is fair but the shortcoming of enforcement in this regard is not capitalism.

>You have yet to give a single difference between two companies making a deal amongst themselves and a company dealing with a government.
Two companies subject to free market forces organizing a deal is a nonissue. It only becomes an issue if they have monopoly power, which is regulated. A company wheeling and dealing directly with the government is subject to market manipulation because the government is an unnatural player insofar as its income is obtained through taxation, which it obtains regardless of whether market forces deem it competitive or not. The government is the ultimate monopoly

You need to read up on on the concept of perfect competition

>> No.18602912

>>18602889
Why are retarded people allowed to invest

>> No.18602918

>check uco
>mfw it was $2 and someone pumped it to $20 and is getting dumped rn
why

>> No.18602930

>>18602912
boomers are peak bagholders

>> No.18602932

>>18602594
True to a large extent, but nevertheless their actions are consistent with leftism

>> No.18602933
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18602933

I'm finished.

>> No.18602935

>>18602842
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/world/asia/coronavirus-singapore.html
Singapore, China and Japan have all reported the start of a second wave after things seemed to flatten.

>> No.18602943

>>18602814
>So why is WTI leaning towards higher prices slowly while Brent is falling?
What? How did you reach the conclusion? WTI June contract is now 11

>> No.18602949

>>18602545
Yes, government interection always only had negative consequences. I'm ok with gov helping poorfags and fags with rationalized jobs by providing gibs for education. Also some environmental protection and monopoly regulation.

>> No.18602959

These pumps are to mask rich people exiting the market.

>> No.18602966

>>18602905
Price fixing and monopolies are an inherent part of capitalism and doing anything to regulate them is by definition anti-capitalistic. Modern governments act in line with capitalistic rules by refusing to enforce these regulations.
Governments are subject to free market forces and so are companies, there is no difference between two companies dealing or a company and a government dealing. I have no idea why you're not getting this trivially simple statement through your skull, I've literally been repeating myself since the very first post and in every single post. Instead of addressing anything you just put your hands on your ears and go "LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU I WIIIIN". Embarrassing.

>> No.18602967

I think zoomies are pumping the market

>> No.18602973

>>18602756
nigga if trump loses there wont be an america in 2 years time. i need get rich quick schemes to buy land and comfy forest home with bunker ASAP

>> No.18602980
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18602980

we are going to end the day green aren't we?

>> No.18602990

>>18602774
I'm bullish on INTC as well.

They hired Jim Keller who was the chief architect behind the AMD Zen architecture which is currently killing Intel. Expect them to have some good chips being released next year to coincide with the 7nm process node launch.

New CPUs take about 3 years to develop and Keller was hired back in 2018 which should line up well with a 2021 launch.

>> No.18602991

>>18602935
All of those are densely populated. Let NYC stay closed.

>> No.18602992

>>18602935
Welp. Time to invest in stay-at-home?

>> No.18603000

I wonder how many /biz/nessmen suicided since January.

>> No.18603006

>>18602991
it's not even closed now. people crowding into subways every day

>> No.18603011

>>18602973
I have 20 acres of land in northern washington. I have enough to build a homestead but I wouldnt have much left. should I just fucking do it? i mean I would have to raise sheep or sell honey to make extra cash if i move out there.

>> No.18603025

>>18602991
Ppl like you will have an excuse for every shit.

>> No.18603029
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18603029

ATTENTION
THE FEDERAL RESERVE WILL NOW BEGIN BUYING SHARES OF EVERY PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY ON THE ASK FOR REST OF DAY
ALL BEARS SHOULD NOW DEPART THE STOCK MARKET
THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY

>> No.18603031

>>18602966
Adam Smith literally wrote that price fixing and monopolies aren't capitalistic retard.

>> No.18603034

>>18603000
They better have done it jumping from a Wall Street skyscraper still in their suits.

>> No.18603041

>>18603000
Boomvestor /biz/nessman have been bagholding since February. Jerome is working primarily to make that the winning move if it defies all market or economic logic.

>> No.18603060

>>18603029
Stocks oscillate. One of the most fundamental principles of the stock market.

>> No.18603063

>>18603011
"raise" sheep. yeah right welshman

>> No.18603065

>>18602030
>Bro real capitalism doesn't mean privately held capital controls the economy
>It means there's no government
Ancaps are economically illiterate

>> No.18603068

>TORM
What the fuck

>> No.18603073

June contracts are under $11. Will they go to 0 today?

>> No.18603074
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>>18603029
POOMP IT
O
O
M
P

I
T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaI2IlHwmgQ

>> No.18603083

I miss 2016.
I still had hope in Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPBzujm-cF8

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>>18603063
Americans dont fuck sheep we have country thots

>> No.18603100

I doubt a lot of people are more bullish than me. I literally had NASDAQ calls on margin which I financed on credit but this day left me scared that we are seeing March 23 lows again. What do you think? Why are fucking tech stocks dropping? What made credit card companies, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple 4-5% less valuable today?

>> No.18603102

JPM calls is so comfy. Who stands to benefit the most from lax Fed interest with massive cash supply? The big banks.

>> No.18603104

Bernie would have nationalized oil to "protect consumers".
Trump is going to do it to "protect the industry"
The overton window has never moved so fast jesus

>> No.18603111

>>18603068
Did it reverse split?

>> No.18603121

>bulls
¯\_のᎲの_/¯

>> No.18603130

>>18603100
>What do you think? Why are fucking tech stocks dropping?
Because they rose to new highs. It was on the news. Holders woke up and started dumping.

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18603139

>children in the future will read in history books how retarded people on extremists sides called each other magatards or leftists while elon musk made history by creating his own civilization on the moon
last chance to buy your $TSLA calls anons

>> No.18603141

>JCP
I didn't expect JC Penny to be a literal Penny stock

>> No.18603142

>>18603104
Trump making Reagan look like a centrist

Inb4 his stans start protesting for free gubmint kneepads to suck off their bosses better

>> No.18603145

>>18603100
Less faith in the economy after seeing oil collapse. People aren’t going to be buying things when they can barely afford food and rent

>> No.18603147

OH FUCK
SELL SELL SELL

>> No.18603151

>>18603102
Even moreso because JPM has turned right around and started tightening loan requirements to businesses and home mortgages. An almost exact replay of 2008

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>>18603060
>Stocks oscillate. One of the most fundamental principles of the stock market.
COULD I PERHAPS INTEREST YOU IN OUR FINE SELECTION OF COPIUMS AND COPIUM OINTMENTS FOR YOUR SEETHING, SIR?

>> No.18603168

>>18603031
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T BREAK THE RULES OF CAPITALISM IN ORDER TO GAIN CAPITAL!!! SOME DEAD FAGGOT SAID SO!!!!
get real dude
not the guy you're replying to btw

>> No.18603172

>WTI
Deja Vu

>> No.18603175

>>18602966
>Price fixing and monopolies are an inherent part of capitalism and doing anything to regulate them is by definition anti-capitalistic
Capitalism operates under certain assumptions stemming from John Locke's state of nature. While price fixing and monopolies can thrive in the absence of government intervention, they arise as a result of violating certain natural laws that must be respected for a free market to thrive (laws against murder, fraud, coercion, etc.) . This is why minimal government regulation to ensure proper function is necessary and not contrary to capitalism.

>Modern governments act in line with capitalistic rules by refusing to enforce these regulations. Governments are subject to free market forces and so are companies, there is no difference between two companies dealing or a company and a government dealing.
Modern government are participating in the market and are the only player in such a market. Governments now tax income, purchase assets, and subsidize industries unilaterally as determined by a congress, not the free market. This is not capitalism--there did not used to be income taxation and asset purchasing schemes in early capitalism, as it explicitly violates the free market.

I address you line by line, I don't know how else to communicate to you.

>> No.18603180

>>18602980
Probably at -1.5% SPY, then overnight dump opening gap down 2% to fuck over people who "bought the dip".

>> No.18603184

>>18603151
Based JPM squeezing poorfags for maximum profit.

>> No.18603193

SCO just keeps rocketing off as WTI crude goes to absolute shit. God bless.

>> No.18603198

>>18603175
>Contradiction in terms? It's a "natural law"!

>> No.18603202

>>18603145
I am under the impression that AWS services are more like utilities for example. Companies can't just shut down their servers And databases and delete all storage. And who is supposed to take Google's ad revenue? I feel like swinging a large rock into a bears' face. Then doing it again. And again.

>> No.18603203

Volume is so fucking weak this week. SPY swings are on the back of 200K candles.

>> No.18603209

>>18603168
I never said that they couldn't do it, but the fact is that this is communism, not capitalism.

>> No.18603212

>>18603073
That's why I ain't buying SHIT except puts. If June contracts go to 0 then you'll see what happened yesterday and today happen again.

>> No.18603216

>>18603139
Elon Musk is actually a retard who’s ridden off the success of other people his entire career. Tesla is the most overvalued company on the planet right now.

>> No.18603222

OIL HALTED

>> No.18603229

>>18603202
AWS has been priced in for fucking years dude. What hasn’t been priced in is the recession we find ourselves in.

>> No.18603231

>>18603175
Only gay ancaps define capitalism as a lack of government. How much government there is in feudalism doesn't affect the fact that the Lord's control the economy

>> No.18603233

>>18603198
what

>> No.18603234

>>18603203
And VIX is lower than it's been all day. Typical fake and gay afternoon poomp.

>> No.18603237

>>18603216
Especially with oil prices being negative it's like they're going to pay you to get behind the wheel of a hummer that gets 5 mpg.

>> No.18603238

>wti below 10

Bruh

>> No.18603254

>>18603233
It's an epistemological handwaving. Capitalists justify contradictions and not substantiating their arguments by claiming they follow "natural axioms" that are just as made up as anything else

>> No.18603256

>>18603234
It's always a fake pump for bear retards. It doesn't matter if it's real or fake, it's pumping.

>> No.18603259

>>18603216
>Tesla is the most overvalued company on the planet right now.
Uber

>> No.18603262

Loading up on boomerstoxxx ADP and PAYX. Steady growth, steady divvie, no debt, high ROIC. *crack* *sip* That's free money right there. Looking to add some CF as well.

>> No.18603264

OH NO OIL BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>> No.18603265

Just a heads up - the fed injected 500 bil at 8:30 this monring and another 500 bil from 1:15-1:45 as per their website.
The pump just ended

>> No.18603282

Kelly on CNBC got the sexiest underbite i'm finna COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>> No.18603293

>>18603265
This would be more helpful if everyone on this website lived in the same time zone

>> No.18603294

>>18603265
What make you think that they won't just add more money? Their program is UNLIMITED.

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>>18603265
The pump never ends, trannyfaggot.

>> No.18603303

HERE WE GO DOWN THE SLOPE

>> No.18603304

>WTI June contracts are dumping
Oh lordy

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18603314

>Bought USO June $1 puts
>Already up 15%
LMAOOOO

>> No.18603315

>>18603011
i mean thats honestly my dream and you would unironically probably absolve yourself of all stress and associated health problems from modern society. how much did your land set you back? 20 acres seems about perfect in my opinion. not too big for 1 man to manage but big enough to have your solitude and immersion into nature. youll be giving up a life of materialism and wealth but you will have happiness. you could always just start your cabin/home and leave the animal husbandry for later if you want flexibility to do things before responsibilities tie you down. it could be your vacation retreat from your regular rat race job while you accrue more money to retire more comfy and find a good woman in the city

>> No.18603319

>>18603303
OH IM GOING ZIP ZOP ZOOBITY BOP

>> No.18603320
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18603320

This is fine.

>> No.18603326

>>18603254
Capitalism is based on Locke's state of nature in which there is natural law; there is nothing inconsistent about a foundation

>> No.18603349

>>18603264
but the emergency meetings!
https://twitter.com/OPECSecretariat/status/1252631496118226944

>> No.18603354

>>18603320
Didn’t you read posts yesterday? It’s no big deal happens all the time. This surely isn’t the sign of a major issue in the oil industry

>> No.18603356

>>18603102
what expiriation dates you looking at? i got lucky on BAC calls a couple weeks ago right before the fed announced their infusion. ufortunately i didnt have much, just a few cheap otm calls that 20x'd for a profit of a couple hundred bucks

>> No.18603357

>>18603293
Why the hell would it be anything but Eastern, considering that's where stocks open and same DC timezone + fed timezone?

>> No.18603362

which oil should i buy

>> No.18603370

>>18602491
Does no one remember when things were crazy in Jan with reports of people seizing out and dropping dead in Wuhan and the Anti-Defamation of Trump League calling them shills and schizos?

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>>18603091
country thots are disgusting to talk to and age like milk

>> No.18603375

New
>>18602478
>>18602478

>> No.18603376

>>18603142
uh, reagan WAS a centrist. center leftist to be more accurate

>> No.18603391

>>18603356
September. I'm aiming to profit from coronoavirus relief and summer rage.

>> No.18603395

>>18603362
Olive oil is a staple.

>> No.18603396

>>18603362
Rapeseed

>> No.18603414

>>18603256
It's expected low volume afternoon upward activity as dumb people buy. All the smart people traded the start of the day and went long when volatility died. Literally exactly what I did. Added some more puts for a couple weeks out, and opened a call at noon for 273 expiring tomorrow because I'm closing it well before EOD.

>> No.18603467

>>18603151
How long until house prices get hit hard enough to be worth buying?

>> No.18603490

>that oil drop

>> No.18603522

How do leveraged certificates work when the price is in pennies? Example: bear certificate tracking sp500 with 8x leverage, price has decayed to about 4 pennies.

So for the price to increase to 5 pennies, the value of sp500 needs to drop 25%/8 = 3.125%

The certificate is compounded daily.

Does this mean, that if I buy the certificate now and value of sp500 drops 2.5% for four days straight, I get nothing despite betting the right direction? In fact, I probably need to sell the certificate at one cent less making 25% instant loss?

Am I wrong

>> No.18603566

>>18603209
Like the other anon pointed out, it's the very definition of capitalism. Just because a dead fag said he didn't like it doesn't mean it's not 100% in the spirit of capitalism by its very definition, where capital is all that matters, which is precisely what capitalism is.

>> No.18603590

>>18603522
>bear certificate tracking sp500 with 8x leverage,
what retarded ass fund is this?

>> No.18603682

>>18603326
Good for Locke

>> No.18603686

Why do you retards with a bachelor's in communications keep arguing about capitalism in these threads? This is stock market general, not your gay political boards.

>> No.18603689

>>18603073
No they won't. 0 can only be achieved once we're near the expiration date, as it was yesterday.

>> No.18603824

>>18603467
Not until a rate hike.

>> No.18604022

>>18602990
> They hired Jim Keller who was the chief architect behind the AMD Zen architecture which is currently killing Intel.

Intel's problem isn't architecture, it's the process. Keller's magic only goes so far. He can't unfuck their fabs. And we're going to see 7nm Intel only at the end of 2021/Q1 2022 at the earliest - assuming they don't fuck it up again like their 10nm abomination.

>> No.18604470

>>18604022
>Intel's problem isn't architecture, it's the process. Keller's magic only goes so far. He can't unfuck their fabs. And we're going to see 7nm Intel only at the end of 2021/Q1 2022 at the earliest - assuming they don't fuck it up again like their 10nm abomination.
I don't understand what you mean? They will just open a 7nm plant.

>> No.18604504
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>>18604470
> They will just open a 7nm plant.
> just

If it was that easy, they wouldn't have fucked up their 10nm process that badly that it has been delayed 5 years (aka cancelled, aside from crappy garbage products as smoke screens for shareholders).

>> No.18604612

>>18601787
same

>> No.18604627

>>18604504
Why wouldn't they just use the better material?

>> No.18604660

>>18604627
> "Semiconductors are fucking magic! Why don't they use better materials?"

If it was that easy, Intel would have done it. But that's what you get when you replace all your engineers with diversity hires.

>> No.18604865

>>18604660
>Diversity hires

That's a very American perspective. Intel's real problem is it has Gone Indian.

Going Indian is a specific thing. It's much more than just hiring Indians or contractors. It's when Indians control middle management.

The first thing you have to understand is the Indian Caste system. You have the Bhramins on top, followed by the Kshatryias, the Vaishyas, the Sudras and finally the Untouchables. tl;dr the Bhramins think they are superior in every way to the lower castes.

The first step of Going Indian is when Bhramins start to get into middle management. Bhramin middle managers will do two things - push higher management to cut US based engineers in favor of Indian contractors, and spam HR with hiring referrals for their relatives. The hiring spam goes beyond normal nepotism. The relatives of a Bhramin middle manager will fail multiple interviews for general incompetence. It doesn't matter, by spamming enough referrals people will get through on their 12th or 14th interview.

Bhramins then promote other Bhramins. Kshatryias may be considered, but lower castes are seen as human trash. The goal is complete Bhramin control over middle management.

Once the Bhramins are in the majority, they start to exert control. If you're a lower caste Indian, woman, or minority, your future at the company is over. Bhramins and Kshatryias will get all promotions and good projects. White men and asian men come next. Then all other Indian castes. Then women and black people. All the while, a significant portion of the US workforce is slashed in favor of Indian contract companies owned by relatives of the Bhramins in the company.

This is where Intel is at. Intel has Gone Indian. Microsoft is in the process of Going Indian. Avoid companies that have Gone Indian at all costs.

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wtf the dow just flew over my house!