/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.18526775]

This just isn't in Britain, capitalcuck. Do you hear that? It's the sound of the wind changing. People are waking up and realizing capitalism has failed. It has turned people into soulless monsters and brought our planet to the brink of destruction.

[Anonymous No.18526807]

Funny cause all I hear is they are sick of staying home and want to be consumerist pigs again.

[Anonymous No.18526822]

>>18526807
>drumpf and other desperate corporate cucks said it so it must be true

[Anonymous No.18526844]

>people like bring paid to stay home and do nothing
WOW WHAT A SHOCKER

Can't last forever someone has to bankroll it and the printer will break on that much

[Anonymous No.18526854]

>>18526775
We havn't capitalism brainlet. We have coorperate marxism, and this since decades. Big corps are ruling, medium and small sized businesses pay the price

[Anonymous No.18526883]

>>18526854
>coorperate marxism
Cope. What you consider to be "bad capitalism is still capitalism. You don't just get to make up meme terms to shift the blame.

[Anonymous No.18526886]

Remember. It's your duty to support the economy. It's the one fucking reason we gave you rights and freedom from serfdom.

[Anonymous No.18526897]

>>18526854
>REAL CAPITALISM HASNT BEEN TRIED YET!

[Anonymous No.18526912]

>>18526854
>We havn't capitalism brainlet. We have coorperate marxism

You sound like a commie trying to justify communism

[Anonymous No.18526916]

>>18526897
Free markets led to the greatest increases of wealth in history.

[Anonymous No.18526969]

This is going to turn into

>I can go outside and work, but you can't because it's dangerous.

This is how it always happens. This is going to speed up tiered society. It was already happening but now it's in the spotlight.

Certain people will enjoy the outdoors, healthcare, money, jobs. Others will be quarantined, underground, not allowed to work, physically separated from the rest of society.

[Anonymous No.18527280]

Capitalism is a moral abomination

[Anonymous No.18527298]

>>18526969

Capitalism is by nature hierarchical. The rich control everything and get first pick on everything. 300 billionaires control the US.

[Anonymous No.18527310]

>>18526854

You retards are just as brainwashed as tankies

[Anonymous No.18527516]

I love working 40 hours a week

[Anonymous No.18527697]

>>18526916
>Free markets led to the greatest increases of wealth in history.

>shares image of china, a communist country with full state control of all productive activities and markets

[Anonymous No.18528081]

>>18527697
>its possible to be this braindead
>he doesnt understand that china was a 100% communist shithole BEFORE the 1990s, and from 1990 onwards it began to gradually open up its financial markets and accept foreign capital into its domestic stocks

>he thinks he will make it in any way, shape, or form

[Anonymous No.18528316]

>>18527298
Hierarchy is nature. YOU are just WEAK. The weak deserve death! You are lucky you are allowed to live!

[Anonymous No.18528339]

>>18526775
Based

[Anonymous No.18528383]

Open the gyms please help me

[Anonymous No.18528392]

>>18526775
The virus was necessary and the world will be better for it.

[Anonymous No.18528420]

There will always be someone working and someone sitting on their ass. The only difference is you have a lot higher chance at wealth as capitalists than you ever would as a socialist. Grass is always greener on the other side.
When you spend 20 years in school to perform surgeries, you’d be pretty irritated that the cashier at the gas station makes the same amount of time-credits as you do. Your logic is flawed and you’re just another defeatist liberal with zero self control and zero self esteem

[Anonymous No.18528433]

>>18526854
>ITS NOT REAL CAPITALISM!

[Anonymous No.18528451]

>>18527298
So you think socialism is any fucking different? You have the brain capacity of a chimp. Quit trying to drag everyone down with you because you can’t understand the amazing opportunity our world has to offer. We have the fucking internet and you can make a living selling rocks to people if you learn the skills of selling. You’re a dense peabrained lazy fuck who wants to ride on the backs of others. Everybody’s political opinion always centers around their own personal benefit, and all the damn democrats are the same with “give the gibs” because you just want to do nothing but eat chips and watch YouTube all day. Fuck you

[Anonymous No.18528462]

>>18527697
>shares

[Anonymous No.18528478]

How many people were surveyed? How do we know they didnt selectivity choose people who were talking about how much they enjoy it on social media?

[Anonymous No.18528495]

Give me liberty or give me death, I will not live my entire life in fear in exchange for a minor increase in safety.

[Anonymous No.18528502]

>>18528478
Sample of 4,343 people on a 'yougov' site. Lmao what a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.18528541]

There are two options. Either this is the Golden bull run or there will be some serious fucking slaughter of pent up violent energy in the west. This doesn’t look like the bull run

[Anonymous No.18528559]

>>18528383
I have gotten into bodyweight and cardio workouts. Don't think I'll be going back to a festering gym full of shitcunt normies desu.

[Anonymous No.18528582]

>>18526916
>China
>free market

[Anonymous No.18528659]

>>18526775
I did notice a lot of redpilling going on. My state (Hawaii) is traditionally pretty cucked. But now covidhoax has forced their eyes open to a lot of bullshit that has been going on.

For example, homeless people from the mainland fly here on 1-way tickets to take advantage of the free state gibs. Since covid-19 happenings, the state requires all visitors to quarantine in their hotels or wherever for 14 days. Homeless people show up at the airport with no destination address and get send right back.

>https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/04/04/homeless-who-fly-hawaii-will-be-given-an-option-turn-around-or-get-arrested/

Some black woman from Arizona lied about her address but got arrested anyway when they found her being homeless, she streamed the arrest, looking for sympathy but is getting called out for being a nigger

>https://www.kitv.com/story/42018220/visitor-arrested-for-breaking-stay-at-home-order

She was just "tryin' to get hired at da Wall Mart"

>https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/04/17/hawaii-news/visitor-to-hawaii-is-arrested-for-violating-travel-quarantine-rules/

[Anonymous No.18528698]

>>18528420
>>18528451

Peak double-digit IQ seething. Learn about socialism— it’s not the abolition of private wealth. You also clearly do not travel and witness the vast difference in opportunities afforded different people in life, which will determines their future prospects under capitalism. Socialism is about everyone having enough wealth to thrive, be free, and be happy. In fact this is not even real socialism, its just socialist-flavored capitalism. Read Marx. Seriously, you can’t criticize what you don’t really understand.

Your brain is rotted by capitalism if you believe you need to be a millionaire to have a fulfilling life. If everyone’s basic material needs are taken care of— food, shelter, healthcare, etc etc, then there’s not a massive personal fortune required beyond that to do what you want to in life.

[Anonymous No.18528700]

>>18528559
Expect that'll be a lot more beneficial than going to the gym

[Anonymous No.18528752]

>>18528700
Agreed. Cardio + plant based diet is the final /fit/ redpill for those who aren't trying to impress Stacys. Add some bodyweight for posture if you spend a lot of time on a computer.

[Anonymous No.18528800]

>>18526844
Will it? Why hasn't it already broken? We're pushing 100 trillion debt. When exactly does that turn from payable to infinity debt? Who calls that debt in?

[Anonymous No.18528897]

>>18526775
Fucking based.

We are entering the NEET timeline

[Anonymous No.18529027]

>>18528451
Based and Thatcher-pilled
>>18528698
Cringe and looter-pilled kys

[Anonymous No.18529062]

>>18526854
This. More freedom = more prosperity. Even that fake capitalist economies are stronger than socialist countries.

[Anonymous No.18529073]

>>18528698
Socialism always fails due to the lack of economic calculous.

[Anonymous No.18529091]

>>18526854
>We havn't capitalism brainlet. We have coorperate marxism
>coorperate marxism
wtf does that even mean?

>>18527516
I work like 5 kek

[Anonymous No.18529104]

>>18526969
Will the lower class depth grobblers live underground in tiered cities, endlessly toiling away for nuggets of Neoplasmin?

[Anonymous No.18529107]

>>18526916
No, that's a complete and total lie.
They just redefined "extreme poverty".

[Anonymous No.18529138]

>>18528698
>Learn about socialism— it’s not the abolition of private wealth
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm

[Anonymous No.18529192]

>>18527697
Lie. A late 19th century factory worker was making $1.50 per day. That's a dollar and 5 dimes. A dime contained 0.723 toz silver, the dollar 0.85 toz silver.
So a factory drone earned 4.465 troy ounces of silver per day, which at the current prices makes $107. Way above the current minimum wage.

[Anonymous No.18529218]

>>18528800
Anybody? Not being facetious. At what point does kicking the can down the road stop working? I've heard it all the time, but... if it was going to, why hasn't it yet?

[Anonymous No.18529228]

>>18526916

[Anonymous No.18529232]

>>18529228
Fake data. See >>18529192

[Anonymous No.18529285]

>>18529232
Your argument presumes that silver has some innate worth that is consistent across all time periods instead of just being another commodity. It's as stupid as you are.

[Anonymous No.18529312]

>>18529285
Silver has indeed innate worth and is consistent. Gold and silver are the real money. You can buy the same amount of goods with an ounce of gold you could buy 100 years ago. Same with silver.

[Anonymous No.18529321]

>>18526775
The air quality is noticeably better in my area. No noise pollution at night when you're trying to sleep, and our spring garden is off to it's best start ever.
Wish the lockdown could last another 6 months, but alas, all good things must come to an end.

[Anonymous No.18529379]

>>18529321
>Wish the lockdown could last another 6 months
don't worry, it probably will....

[Anonymous No.18530441]

bump

[Anonymous No.18530463]

>>18526916
>free markets
>picture of China
literally loled out loud

[Anonymous No.18531458]

>>18529104
damn that was a fucking good ted talk

[Anonymous No.18531468]

What a shocker, 90%+ bongs are gay as fuck.

[Anonymous No.18531516]

>>18528752
Calisthenics + meat based is far superior .

[Anonymous No.18531528]

>>18529192
What the fuck kind of bullshit is that lmao. 5 dimes had 4 times the weight in silver that a dollar did? Are you high?

[Anonymous No.18531545]

>>18530463

Hullo chap, dare I say it, the poster is alluding to the fact that China accelerated into wealth after mucking about in total shite under communism. After all, the great leap forward saw mass starvation and 100+ million dead, and that was only in 1970. After China opened their economy up in the 80's, they saw a massive resurgence.

Sure, they're a bastard quasi communist state now, but their economy is effectively a "freeish market" now compared to their past state. And it's resulted in massive dividends.

[Anonymous No.18531565]

>>18527697
>Full state control of all productive activity and markets
But that's wrong you retard

[Anonymous No.18531567]

>>18526775

>surveys

[Anonymous No.18531570]

>>18528698
The point is freedom from the shackles of a 9-5. Nobody is going to work for free but that’s basically what you’re proposing. Universal basic income will never work long term, sorry. There’s always going to be someone sitting on their ass taking advantage. Seething defeatist liberal detected go suck some homeless dicks more

[Anonymous No.18531589]

>>18528698
Also, who is going to work if they have zero bills to pay and all housing and food covered? If I had no bills I would retire immediately and watch morons like you slave away for my benefit. 1 times 0 equals 0. Your utopia will never exist.

[Anonymous No.18531602]

>>18526883
>You don't just get to make up meme terms to shift the blame.
>says the commie

[Anonymous No.18531607]

>>18528698
Also, your ideals truly abolish the idea of personal wealth. Who’s going to design the next iPhone if they only get the same thing as everyone else? You think your system will work based on trust but it won’t. Half the nation would retire and the economy would collapse. Who’s going to drive truck when you can sit at home for the same personal gain which is zero? You were probably born after 2000.

[Anonymous No.18531632]

>>18530463
>100 million starve under communist china
>China introduces a tiny bit of free market capitalism
>Instantly increases in standards of living

Communists are stupid. I'm sure they would have preferred china just stay poor and stupid

[Anonymous No.18531692]

>>18531607
Bbbut boomers got 14 free mansions when they were born

[Anonymous No.18531705]

>>18531632
They definitely aren't stupid, they're evil. They know it would hurt a majority of people but selfishly think it will benefit them so in their minds the ends justify the means. It's easy to underestimate a commy but it can have terrible consequences. Always keep them at a distance, never trust any thing they say, never give them a chance even if they offer a gesture of kindness. Sooner or later they will stab you in the back, and they know playing stupid gets people's guards down. These disgusting pieces of shit would sell out their own family just for a loaf of bread.

[Anonymous No.18532330]

>>18526775
This says nothing about hating capitalism, pure projection

[Anonymous No.18532344]

>>18526969
What they kept redefining it every year? It quite obviously has moron

[Anonymous No.18532347]

nation of retarded snitches. hope they all die of covid

[Anonymous No.18532830]

>>18526854

Corporate Socialism is lefty for crony capitalism. It's a case where right wing and left wing economics agree on something being bad.

Compromise, if the company is a vital service or natural resource based, you don't get bailed out you get nationalized. Banks are allowed to fail. And other companies are allowed to fail free market style.

[Anonymous No.18533679]

>>18526854
>>18529062
>>18531545
>>18531632

They didn't introduce free market capitalism. China introduced Authoritarian Capitalism, or State Capitalism. That is capitalism with state oversight. It works better than free market captialism.

When Pinochet introduced actual free market capitalism, based on Milton Friedman's model, poverty literally double. It was only when he died, and the leaders after that implemented social welfare policies that poverty lessened.

If you look into economic history, via Ian Fletcher and Ha Joon Chang (both pro-capitalists, but anti-free market capitalists) you'll see that the 'economic miracles' of the U.S, the UK, Singapore, South Korea, the UAE, was due to a mixture of a capitalist market and state planning.

Corporations have no long term vision, regarding national interest.

Libertarians spread the myth that the free market is what creates wealth, despite economic history showing that simply is not true. It is a mixture of capitalism and state planning.

Free Market Capitalism = Pinochet's Chile. Which had an Authoritarian state, but a genuine capitalist free market. Corporations got rich, and the people got poor.

[Anonymous No.18533688]

>>18526916

This post applies to you too...

>>18533679

[Anonymous No.18533701]

>>18526912
Commies trying to justify communism can't name 1 example of "real communism".
Capitalist can name dozens.
But the west in its current state is simply not one of them.

[Anonymous No.18533934]

>>18531705
yo fuck commies dude, but don't you think there exists a middle-ish ground where corps can't absolutely butt fuck consumers every chance they get. I feel like the only reason the majority of these "communists" exist is because there is some pretty fucking evil shit that some of these organizations pull and they automatically start looking to a more extreme solution because their not using their noggins.Take ISPs for example.

[Anonymous No.18534002]

i like lockdown because there's less niggers loitering around and normalfags can't congregate and be loud retards anymore
any movement that advocates for open borders is bad, regardless if it calls itself capitalism or communism

[Anonymous No.18534065]

>>18531607
For every degenerate like you there is someone like me who if not hampered by the chains of capitalism would spend my time working to better the lives of those around me vs simply working to better my own life. You only really need less than 1% of the population doing creative work to benefit society, and people who create can not stop themselves from doing so, it’s what gives us joy.

Then, for every person like me, there is someone who is completely self interested and greedy and will continue to work and innovate simply because it will give them more money than their basic income and give them access to greater pleasures.

Why shouldn’t you be allowed to sit at home on your ass? Why shouldn’t I be allowed to free my time from the shackles of capitalism and do something which helps people? Why shouldn’t the greedy man get to go off and have his private jets and cocaine fueled sex parties?

In a socialist world, everyone gets what they want and society would realistically suffer very little. You will never invent the next iPhone, and Steve Jobs would have started Apple whether or not he had his minimum living standards met by the government.

The real question is, where does the money come from? And that’s why the hyper rich get targeted. No one needs $150 billion to themselves. If you could only ever have $1 billion, would this stop the greemonger from innovating? Probably not. Most of them are egomaniacs who want to be recognized for achievements, like Elon Musk. The actual wealth means very little to them outside of the fact that it allows them to stay in the spotlight.

Anyway, a perfect system would be difficult to devise but not impossible, and it takes experimentation to learn what works and what doesn’t. We know previous implementations of socialism do not work, but that doesn’t mean NO implementations of socialism would work and none of the prior failures prove any of your hypotheses correct.

[Anonymous No.18534088]

>>18527697
China is a freer market than the US despite all of that. In the US you can't even collect rainwater in your businesses parking lot without a permit while in China you can slaughter a koala on the sidewalk. America is more communist than China at this point

[Anonymous No.18534103]

>>18534002
Which is too bad because mostly everyone that opposes capitalism in 2020 wants to break up families, jack up the number of drooling third worlders wandering around your neighborhood, and wants you at the bare minimum to be socially shamed for going to church. I would literally vote for a socialist if he wanted to stop these things but unfortunately Bernie Sanders is(was) a globohomo Jew welfare state peddler like the rest of them.

[Anonymous No.18534106]

>>18531607
Case in point: humanity probably wouldn’t even exist today without socialism. Hunter gatherer tribes only were able to survive from working together to keep everyone fed and everyone warm. When you talk about root survival as a species, capitalism would be quite counterproductive. Many technological innovations have likely hampered society more than helped with the advent of capitalism - it is no longer about what we need but what we want, and we have learned with psychological trickery we can make people want all sorts of useless shit. So now instead of a vaccine for a disease that is killing tons of people, we have Facebook. Do you know why that is? The disease vaccine was in development years ago but was halted. Do you know why that is? Capitalism. It was not as lucrative to pursue the vaccine, but a website for normies to post self indulgent normie shit all day was able to make plenty of money.

This is the world capitalism creates. One where people who are relatively poor can never be happy because they’re too concerned with picking up the next cool sneakers or what the fuck ever because marketing and advertising have literally changed the way their brain functions.

[Anonymous No.18534115]

>>18529091
It means the state gives large companies an easy ride

[Anonymous No.18534118]

>>18534065
Shut the fuck up 19 year old retard

[Anonymous No.18534142]

>>18531589
And finally, just look at the economic disaster capitalism actually is. Look at how many trillions of dollars we print to bail out banks, the biggest companies, and billionaires. Even with all their tax breaks that the average person making peanuts doesn’t get access to. Capitalism has allowed extreme greed to take over to the point where corruption is deeply seeded. Now the whole country sits on rickety stilts. The stilts hold up castles a few people live in while everyone else is supporting the stilts with their backs.

It’s all going to come down eventually. That either means the stilts breaking or going through your body and instantly fucking killing you while they support themselves to the ground. You actually get to decide.

[Anonymous No.18534144]

>>18534106
>Case in point: humanity probably wouldn’t even exist today without socialism. Hunter gatherer tribes only were able to survive from working together to keep everyone fed and everyone warm.

This isn't what socialism is moron; you are another liberal dimwit who thinks the 'social' in socialism means 'getting along'.

Socialism is collective ownership over the means of production, and the abolishment of private property and private trade. That's it.
Socialism is not 'helping your fellow man'.

Capitalism is free trade and private ownership over the means of production, and was the backbone of man's rise from the swamp.

[Anonymous No.18534154]

>>18534065
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.18534166]

>>18534142
>Look at how many trillions of dollars we print to bail out banks, the biggest companies, and billionaires

The state printing money out of thin air isn't capitalism, it's socialism

The only reason they get these bailouts is because the government prints money, which is a stealth tax via inflation

If the government didn't print money, and wasn't involved in the economy, then banks would not be able to do what they did

[Anonymous No.18534168]

>>18534065
>there is someone like me who if not hampered by the chains of capitalism
Didn't read after this lmao, literally loser mindset

[Anonymous No.18534170]

>>18534144
>ignore the literal definition of socialism and instead apply one variant of economic socialism that suits my argument

Holy shit I don’t even know why I come here anymore, too much pol bleed over. Board is so low IQ now.

[Anonymous No.18534181]

>>18534065
>lots of words
you're a faggot

[Anonymous No.18534182]

>>18534170
>reddit spacing
Pol is retarded in it's own sense, but you have to go back

[Anonymous No.18534187]

>>18534168
It’s funny, I do feel like a loser. By your definitions I am probably not. I run a business and am a multi-millionaire. I have a beautiful wife and a kid who is amazing. I live in a cozy neighborhood with friendly neighbors. I want for nothing personally, but I look around me and see all kinds of things about the world I don’t like, and the fact that I can’t do much about it makes me feel like a loser indeed.

[Anonymous No.18534191]

>>18534182
>I learned how to say “go to reddit” on 4chan when I came in 2017
I’ve been here probably half your life, kid.

[Anonymous No.18534192]

>>18526897
>Doesn't understand the reality of what happened in the '30s or since

[Anonymous No.18534194]

>>18534187
>I run a business and am a multi-millionaire
Prove it faggot.

[Anonymous No.18534197]

Based chink virus forcibly returning Western nations to traditionalism

[Anonymous No.18534198]

>>18529218
It stops working when you go to buy a loaf of bread with one million dollars and suddenly it costs one trillion dollars, and it can only take a couple of years

[Anonymous No.18534204]

>>18534170
You are the one bragging about socialism, then you call me a brainlet for pointing out what socialism actualy entails.

>apply one variant of economic socialism that suits my argument

That's literally all socialism is, collective ownership. Moreover, because nobody ever voluntary agrees to collectively own something, you need to enforce these rules with force.

How many socialist bookshops or restaurants do you see? None. Why? Because it's retarded and doesn't work outside of a state-enforced bubble

[Anonymous No.18534228]

>>18534106
Unfortunately your movement is mutually inclusive with putting retarded blacks in positions of power for equality, letting women fuck around and piss birth control into the water supply so men grow tits and never have families, destroying the life of some small time Christian baker because he said faggot or doesn't want to sell to a tranny, snitching people's employers because they said the nigger word on social media, crying because some retarded Mexican that displaces the literal poor working people you claim to fight for was put in a cage because he was smuggling heroin into the country. I really don't give much of a shit about free healthcare or Amazon. If you want to burn down Goldman Sachs, good, I agree. But unfortunately your movement never addresses the worst aspect of society which is the degenerate faggotry.

Also key word is "tribes"
People at least the in the US don't live with closely knit cooperative tribes. My street is full of blacks and migrant retards from various third world countries who cannot even agree with each other on who should be in charge of slinging the g packs which is why the Puerto Ricans and Cambodians are constantly stabbing and shooting each other. You will never get real Marxism in an uncooperative globalist society. There are too many non productive and inefficient elements.

[Anonymous No.18534262]

>>18534228
But all this chaos is the end goal of socialism; the people who actually push for socialism do well as they get to occupy cushy state-funded jobs.

They create a society dependent on them, dependent on increasing socialism.

[Anonymous No.18534295]

>>18526775
>stronger communities
RISE NATIONALISM

[Anonymous No.18534309]

>>18534295
Because Castro did so well for Cuba lol. Both are retarded.

[Anonymous No.18534336]

>>18534295
>nationalism

[Anonymous No.18534348]

>>18534336
>>18534295
Reminder bolshevism is not nationalist and is merely lagging globalism, as in they seek to have the globe united under communism one revolution at a time, instead of all at once. Its why Trotsky was icepicked in Mexico. Trotsky wanted all at once, Stalin wanted the Jews who revolted in Germany at the end of WW1 causing the rise of the National Socialists - to hand power over to the USSR afterwards making Germany part of the USSR, and every other country globally the same way. Not Nationalism.

[Anonymous No.18534352]

essential worker here, i see people out all the time during midday. I doubt real people want this to go on. Otherwise i shouldve got smooth drive

[Anonymous No.18534369]

Hey thats funny lefty faggots, you want to filter National Socialism into Not Socialism, Ill filter National Bolshevism into Not Nationalism.

[Anonymous No.18534376]

>>18526854
No such thing as corporate marxism, it's just a bullshit phrase you just made up. Capitalism is an adaptive system, that's one of its strengths. No shit it looks different.

[Anonymous No.18534383]

>>18534065
What a Loser

[Anonymous No.18534388]

Modern "Marxism" is embarrassing and degenerative horseshit.

[Anonymous No.18534389]

>>18534376
Actually, we do. Marxism is not just an economic theory.

[Anonymous No.18534428]

>>18534388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGMBpwpIfmc

You are so bamboozled to believe ...

[Anonymous No.18534434]

>>18534389
>corporations tailoring their marketing to appeal to untapped markets
so something capitalism encourages

[Anonymous No.18534436]

Anyone have the meme where its lord of the rings and the antifa guy is saying he never thought he would die fighting side by side with a capitalist, and its the monpoly man with F - A - G on his hat for Facebook, Amazon, Google saying "how about side by side with a friend"?

I have it but apparently its under a retarded tag that doesnt include 9 other tags it should have, so I cant find it. Anyways, sums my argument up.

[Anonymous No.18534449]

>>18534434
No, corporations paying to propagandize people with marxism, even when it hurts their sales, because its about ideology not profits. Corporate marxism. BLM was shown to be funded by corporations exploiting them to advertise products, Id post the video but cuckchan doesnt allow sound webms, or big webms, or half of webms randomly because they dont use some bullshit format.

[Anonymous No.18534463]

>>18534449
>>18534434
Also zero corporations advertise against non-white immigration, even in red states. No politicians, nobody is allowed to make money off that section of the population. Bullshit argument is bullshit. Half of America is disenfranchised and its not the left one.

[Anonymous No.18534474]

>>18526822
"Drumpf" is a term used by trolls and ideologues who only think what the TV tells them to.

Which are you?

[Anonymous No.18534557]

>>18534474
Yea, the term is Zognald.

[Anonymous No.18534775]

>>18527697
Actually China is a failed communist state which had to embrace capitalistic aspects in order to survive. It prospers only because of Americas capitalism, and I say this as an anti-capitalist. Just a fact, capitalism and bolshevism are the two sides of the same international Jewish coin and communism couldnt exist without preferential capitalist trade.

National Socialism will smash all this.

[Anonymous No.18534798]

>>18526775
Imagine complaining about capitalism still. How are these people smart enough to use a computer?

[Anonymous No.18534817]

>>18526775
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jfx7PnMtCeY

[Anonymous No.18534819]

>>18526775
another great thread on the failures of the free market, how glorious. Why yes, clean air is more precious than a poop emoji pillow!

[Anonymous No.18534820]

Well yeah,this lockdown proved that we have a lot of fat to trim. Office space and schools don't need to exist. Those can be done from home. We also don't need 9001 restaurants on every block. Then all that space into houses or neighborhood parks or something.

[Anonymous No.18534837]

>>18534820
dont forget the meaningless pursuit of stupid gadgets that offer only incremental improvements, for huge development/advertising costs. Being so much blindsided by this race that we were in, we lost track of what matters more in life. If the priorities shift, a lot of the market will be eliminated I am sure.

[Anonymous No.18534844]

>>18534798
Even worse imagine complaining about capitalism and the political solution you come up with is "umm fuck white people and also empty the prisons out because black ppl dindu nuffin"

[Anonymous No.18534874]

>>18534820
That's the funny thing about communists, they will actually attack you for suggesting home schooling. They pretend they are purely economic and purely for getting us free healthcare and relieving the working poor of their debt enslavement, but really they just want to abolish freedom of association more than anything. They want your kids to go to public schools surrounded by niggers and spics, they want your daughter's addicted to drugs and having lots and lots of meaningless sexual intercourse , they want you addicted to porn and smoke weed

[Anonymous No.18534896]

Remember for those not in the know, whenever a socialist tells you he has a political solution for your problem, always remember that trans kids and doxxing white people for complaining about mass immigration are part of a package deal.

[Anonymous No.18534919]

>>18529104
trash economy, cubes of trash will be used as money

[Anonymous No.18534952]

>>18534775
what do you think of the pic related fellow natsoc dude >>18534819


a small and simple concept I have developed on inequality, the rational agent and degenerate markets. Does it make sense?

[Anonymous No.18534966]

>>18534103
How would you feel about a political party/movement based solely on the social advancement of Americans, disallowed nearly all immigration, incentivized or physically removed non-Citizens and was essentially Authoritarian Socialist but with capitalistic individualist elements like elections, free speech and the freedom to own firearms?

I've been kind of refining an idea to marry traditional social values like community, church, family to more social-capitalist economic policies. Would you support that?

[Anonymous No.18535001]

>>18526775
There is only one important aspect to this, does this mean thatb there will be socialist millennials and commie zoomers to shoot? Because if so O good. Now OP off you pop and fap to gretta and Chinese funded green politicians. I have oil stocks to buy cheap. You stupid fucking peasant.

[Anonymous No.18535019]

>>18534966
>essentially Authoritarian Socialist

I'd say that zoomers will go for anything that lets them stay in bed fapping instead of working. Genuinely, if the urban chavs in the UK push for it, they will quite correctly be shot, which would be fine with everyone else. Also Thatcher was based, deal with it chavlet

[Anonymous No.18535030]

>>18534966
>Authoritarian Socialist
>>18534966
>freedom to own firearms

As an aside, the freedom to own firearms is so people like me can shoot authoritarian socialist, commies and fuckwits like you. Guns are fucking great are they not?

[Anonymous No.18535035]

How does everybody being effectively under house arrest lead to stronger communities?

[Anonymous No.18535041]

>>18535030
you mean like the original fascists who created your nation? You wish to shoot them? Your ancestors lol?

[Anonymous No.18535053]

>>18535035
More lying in bed fapping and scream,ing at the neighbours kids coffing in your back window has created a type of nirvana in the UK worthy of them all singing john lennons imagine together in harmony while waving socialist/commie/nazifag banners

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11398489/mass-street-brawl-erupts-yobs-batter-each-other/

[Anonymous No.18535062]

>>18535041
I'm Irish, but yes fascists created my nation, they however all murdered each other within a couple of years and sane people took over and finished the job and its been grand ever since

[Anonymous No.18535111]

>>18535062
oh I thought you were an american, because gun rights are typically used by americans at least to its fullest extent. And as it happens to be, fascists actually wrote the greatest pro gun laws ever.

Because what you are feeling is lies, for you have been lied to within history. Jolly cooperation is what fascists and natsocs are after. Within the race. And the american fascists especially have more notions of decentralized rulership. That is why they advocated for the guns, for they expected each individual man to be of high quality. Tho obviously, if you introduce subhumans like the negro such grande promises fail for the framework is then in jeopardy!

But with these same notions we aim to go into the future still. Tho we aim also to use our intellectual elites well to guide much of science and industry. For lesser men cannot delve into science and tell us what causes cancer, and what makes a person more susceptible to diabeetus.

[Anonymous No.18535124]

>>18535041
everypone likes to shoot the English lad, thing is they are an endangered species these days so they are being conserved. Hopefully their numbers will recover to the point the bong hunt can happen again. They have several challenges to survival, small beady eyes that don't see well, upper lip issues that can cause trembling out breaks. They're a fragile species. They are pretty aggressive though and its been a traditional sport for hundreds of years everywhere from the USA, Ireland, in Europe to shoot bongs for sport.

[Anonymous No.18535135]

>>18535124
kekt

[Anonymous No.18535138]

>>18535053
lol

[Anonymous No.18535139]

>>18535111
Ah if only you bongs understand the right to self defence and weapons ownership is not a legal one. Its a God given one but you were always a nation of collectivist slaves run by tyrants who own your land and call you 'subjects'

[Anonymous No.18535169]

>>18535139
what? I am not a bong, I am a pro traditionalist fascism of the american kind. That is what >>18535041

pic related tried to establish, the founding fathers were actually fascists, the notions that they had on freedom and of jolly cooperation are like the bundle of faggots. If each american had a gun then it would create a strong faggot! It was simply another iteration of good, wholesome fascism.

[Anonymous No.18535175]

>>18535169
>I am a pro traditionalist fascism
You twat.

[Anonymous No.18535200]

>>18535175
well pro traditionalism americanism I guess, I got a bit confused, but the modern notions of anti fascism and anti natsocism are just modernity, not actual americanism. Fakes so to speak off.

decentralized leadership (many rods in the bundle), good gun laws (strong tiny rods), how many more hints do you need to comprehend that america was founded upon fascism?

[Anonymous No.18535209]

>>18535200
pic related is what perverted the minds of the original american fascists near ww2.

[Anonymous No.18535281]

>>18535030
It exists to prevent tyranny and to protect your family. Isn't it time your government had the same reasons for existing?

[Anonymous No.18535311]

the full question was something like 'does this virus make you want to continue positive changes you have made, even when this is over?' (I saw the source of this survey somewhere else)

it was basically as if they were asking 'do you like nice things?'

[Anonymous No.18535323]

>>18535281
If you are a fascist government, then by its own lore, you believe in your people, for you want it to be a strong bundle, therefore you do not interfere with their rights to have their firearms, for in some sense, you do not see a divide between you and them. You do not think that they require special rules to abide by as the current government does. They are not a liability nor a pest as the current US government thinks. As does much of europe. To the white nationalists such a government would say "okay just have your parties but dont be too retarded and dont do drugs okay? Have all the guns that you want, its not our right to deprive them of you, ok but just as a fellow citizen dont do stupid shit pls lol"

in a tone that a neighbor could tell them. Not someone of authority.

[Anonymous No.18535325]

>>18529192
Bullshit. In UK people made between 6-20 shillings a week. Shilling was about 5g of silver. Thats 3oz a week. Minumum wage in UK today is 3oz silver per day, not per week.
Minimum wage today makes you 5-10 times more silver than in 1880.

[Anonymous No.18535376]

>>18535323
A fascist government then by its own lore will seek out the strongest bundles from that people, willing ones, to be part of its armed forces. I wont bother with trifles like "nationalism" and whatnot, if a person is white and he is wholesome, and not degerenate then all is well.

and can you guess who is not degenerate and wholesome, its farmer classes, its yeomen. Rural folks, great people, the backbone of the nation. And through the backbone, if that farmer thinks that you are a degenerate, he will find other farmers like him, also strong and wholesome, and whether with a label of government or not, he will want to push your shit in. Be it a militia, a group of people, or just two guys who agree on this crap.

it just happened to be in that period of time that a vast...VAST majority of people thought like that, so they created a nation that was like that, and it was great.

[Anonymous No.18535391]

>>18535376
>I wont bother with trifles like "nationalism
or "racism" or "fascist" or the many other leftist insults and things that prevent us from getting into places of power now, there were no such labels in the past, good wholesome people were collectivized willingly to do good wholesome things.

its just that the degenerates and the jews turned good terms like racialism, and fascism into negative connotations!

[Anonymous No.18535795]

>>18534819
>>18534952
Your little theory goes a little off the rails when you base it on 'emoji pillows bad'
I think you might be onto something overall, but I don't think there's any basis for really saying that white people would not get trapped into the same kinds of economically retarded money and time sinks that black people do, which is apparent if you ever spend any time on Facebook

Also even if we assume what you say is true, it's only from a certain point of view that these trinkets are all bad
(Surely we could cut down a little bit on a lot of them, obviously)
But do you want to live in a society of City 17 like blandness where only people's absolute needs are met? And if not, where do you draw the line?

[Anonymous No.18535864]

>>18535795
ah finally, after arduous struggle within these halls of /biz/ I found one man of reason that does not burst into flames of rage and madness! Yes I too felt like I was approaching and combining together things of our communal subconscious psyche into a combination of words that give rise to a higher philosophy of sorts.

and also yes, the application in relation to this subtle feeling of this new feeling of the uselessness of capitalism is somewhat of a trial, a test to see how well it could be received.

I am using old national socialism lore of mixed markets, or of GUIDED economy, a philosophically guided economy so to speak. For I believe the lack of spirit and its emptiness can be found in the pursuit of many goods, that lead to much emptiness in other forms as the produce that the degenerate industries create!

The picture that you often may see where one shill corp says that we should make believers our of consumers and whatnot. That was quite destructive to the soul. How can a mere trinket, like a tiny battery powered massage device (which operates on batteries) be of any spiritual importance? Such lore I am fighting against.

The creators of such products I wish to destroy. A guided market, using the principles of the free markets on those goods and services that are holy perhaps must be created. But banishment, fire and brimstone for the products that do not make this cut! The poop emoji pillows condemned into hell! Mcdonalds...all of its property returned to its nations, where a law banning fast food is in place and where only wholesome foods may be created! let them compete for wholesomeness and goodness instead of fatness and shitinness!

[Anonymous No.18535918]

>>18535864
and the thing with this idea is that it is DEVELOPING. I am taking from the communal psyche much content as you may see, and since I am part of the natsoc sphere I inject possible solutions that may satisfy. But obviously, op and the many others here realized some of the blandness of consumerism and as such I still welcome you with non natsoc solutions. If it is only the emptiness that you wish to dissect with wordplay!

[Anonymous No.18535930]

>>18527697
>lmfao at the retards thinking China's economy is communistic (i.e. all means of production is fully state controlled).
>The state intervenes in the economy moreso than other capitalistic economies but given that the vast majority of production is privately owned, it is far closer to capitalism than communist.
>This just goes to show why most people on here won't make it.

[Anonymous No.18535955]

>>18526775
You fucking retard the problem isn't capitalism, it's consumerism.

That and the presence myths at work. Why do fuck should I have to waste an hour every day driving to/from work when I could just as well work from home.

[Anonymous No.18535961]

>>18535930
A new form of control I propose, free markets for essentials and goods that are not evil! Quite simple really. A controlled economy is inferior, yet a free market is also inferior, for it panders to the weak and the shitty.

But a "free market in the slice of things that are good for its people" is the most superior, for then the people will have no opportunity to be bamboozled by kikes who create porn, hollow wedding rings opiods and other bad stuff. Nor from the low IQ intellectuals who use the bounties of the earth to produce non essential, garbage things!

Compete for medicine, for healthy good, for homes, furniture, good cars and whatnot all you like!

[Anonymous No.18535976]

>>18535961
Ok hitler

[Anonymous No.18535988]

>>18535976
yes, I am nearly literally hitler, all degenerate goods and degenerate industries, and people who produce them must be removed. For these people are not capable of judging what is good and wholesome in life by their own self! Such is the fate of mentally inferior people, even if they employ mentally superior people to produce for them!

[Anonymous No.18536003]

>>18535918
>>18535864
also do not despair for I must leave for sports, if you reply to my posts, whatever we have here must be communally worked higher! Such is our way.

[Anonymous No.18536022]

>>18535209
Nice megalarp
For God's sake, there was no mkultra or anything of the sort to "pervert the minds" of American fascists before ww2

A good antidote to believing in muh sekrit govt research larps and other conspiratardations, is reading history and seeing the accounts from people who complained about much of the same shit about the human condition and came up similar silly explanations for it

[Anonymous No.18536023]

>>18534065
didnt read

[Anonymous No.18536027]

>>18531516
stupid meatcuck

[Anonymous No.18536029]

As an incel my life has only improved during this pandemic and I want it to get much worse

[Anonymous No.18536060]

>>18536022
You obviously have never encountered an agent of...diversity, anti racism, pro feminism and whatnot! For a newcomer does not know much better, yet it is the pale truth for the men around you are but mere automatons!

[Anonymous No.18536063]

>>18526807
This.
There was literally QUEUES at McDonald here when they reopened it this week.

[Anonymous No.18536088]

>>18528383
Government should be torn down for being the biggest gains goblin

[Anonymous No.18536097]

>>18526854
> capitalists now pay pajeets to shill.
I'd say it's sad, but actually pretty hilarious.
Day of the guillotine is coming

[Anonymous No.18536101]

>>18536063
untermenschen with untermensch tastes in life, for they had the opportunity to pursue self cooking as I did, for I made pancakes and pasta, delicious with cheese! And tried to marinate a pale chicken with basic spices.

For I am not an untermensch. Yet these people in some time, thanks to the mythical concept called "regression to the mean" will one day produce children which are like me, while I, may produce children like them. For such is how genetics works sadly! A mere 80% of chance we have to transmit intelligence!

So for a future self that my blood one day may become, society has to be idiot proofed. As such mcdonalds should be banned!

[Anonymous No.18536197]

>>18534115
"coorperate marxism" doesn't make sense you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.18536502]

>>18528495
You already did that in 2001 you dumb nigger.

[Anonymous No.18537124]

>>18536101
Is this shitpost? Ffs study a bit about genetic inheritance before you start tipping fedora with your pseudointellectualism