/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.18386984]

Good Friday Edition


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>>18384775

[Anonymous No.18386997]

First for buy Chainlink (LINK)

[Anonymous No.18387036]

fuck this retard world, im going to mars

[Anonymous No.18387046]

>>18386997
That's a man.

>>18386993
>Even mainstream traders
lol
>even people who are generally wrong

>>18386991
Since then we have seen V bottoms, December 2018 for starters. And NEVER has a central bank and federal government gone in so heavily on supporting markets. No one knows what'll happen. The liquidity thesis that meant every dip would be bought may once again be in play.

I did a little hedging today though.

[Anonymous No.18387057]

I'm financially ruined.
Down from 19k to 4k on 5/1 210 puts

[Anonymous No.18387074]

>>18387046
They're just buoying a sinking ship, there has to be a massive debt restructuring at some poing

[Anonymous No.18387075]

>>18387057
blew up my portfolio, switching to calls if monday dips
thank me later bobo

[Anonymous No.18387078]

Good time to buy SPY?

[Anonymous No.18387083]

>>18387074
Point*

[Anonymous No.18387105]

So RTX is just a meme? Seemed legit to me until I saw it shilled on here.
>Rule of thumb - do the opposite of /smg/

[Anonymous No.18387115]

do you guys think jerome has trouble sleeping at night? he has been successful "saving" the market so far with the prop job and if corona does taper off even in a few months, the fed's bullshit won't have any immediate impact that would make him directly responsible. but what if the unthinkable happens, like war breaks out, or corona mutates, and the market tanks harder than it did a few weeks ago? he would be cited as the man who killed american markets. does this stuff keep him up at night?

[Anonymous No.18387119]

>he didnt buy boeing during the dip

[Anonymous No.18387123]

Anyone else really bullish on semiconductors? I think all this work from home is really increasing demand on both person computing and cloud computing. Apparently auto is only 8% of the total industry, who the fuck cares. Computer and handheld sales are totally going to make up for the few months of lost revenue. Also found this article about Wuhan car sales.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/quick-rebound-in-wuhan-car-sales-give-hope-to-battered-industry

[Anonymous No.18387153]

>>18387074
maybe, but there's no percveived bad actors this time around, just a black swan and a government mandated shutdown, so there's wide support for keeping everything going, and providing loans that could become more like grants.

The financial crisis has left the country scarred. There's no Lehmann this time around, and no one wants to endure that again because of the virus and oil price wars, even if there were other signs of the cycle ending.

>>18387105
it's hard to tell. It's a bit too levered to global manufacturing and demand for commercial aerospace, so it could be a great buy (into weakness) if you're trying a barbell approach where you pick companies that will hold up well through the recession, AND strong cyclicals that will do well during the recovery.

Shit. Actually it might be a great cyclical.

>>18387123
I bought a bunch of AMAT and sold a credit spread... so it'll probably crash on monday. I would like to add more than 1 share of AMD and NVDA to my portfolio too. Not sure about their wuhan presence and data/consumer/industrial/auto/etc. demand.

[Anonymous No.18387169]

>>18387153
I'm looking at SOXL for exposure to the whole market.

[Anonymous No.18387174]

Reminder that if you are reading this right now, you are better at making and selling 737 Max planes than Boeing

[Anonymous No.18387198]

lmao the editorial for every Fox News host for the past 2 weeks has been "America needs to get back to work" + "we never said it was just the flu bro"

[Anonymous No.18387208]

It's going down tomorrow with the UDS Q1 inflation reports right?

[Anonymous No.18387214]

Get fucked amerilards

[Anonymous No.18387216]

>>18387208
>tomorrow

[Anonymous No.18387221]

>>18387208
Bad news is not going to cause a bear market

[Anonymous No.18387228]

Is REFR a meme that i fell for?

[Anonymous No.18387231]

i thought that hurting animals is bad and punishable by law

THEN HOW DID JEROME MANAGED TO GET AWAY WITH RAPING A PACK OF BEARS WITH HIS BIG GREEN COCK

[Anonymous No.18387240]

>>18387169
Thinking long term, I’d probably rather not use leverage at least until I have some confidence that another crash from the same black swan is on the table.

>>18387214
This image is terrible bait but I know 100% it will get replies in this thread.

>>18387208
Highly doubt there will be noticeable inflation yet, probably quite the opposite.

But I am considering adding to my gold position as the inflation scenario is becoming more likely.

>>18387228
100% memestock

[Anonymous No.18387271]

>>18387153
People and companies especially commercial real estate companies are super overleveraged, the financial crisis is still brewing. The dow might go to 50000 but currency will be toilet paper.

[Anonymous No.18387277]

>>18386984
>work in oil and gas
>see all my peers getting fired left and right
>they all have more experience and fancier degrees than me
>surprised that I somehow dodged the layoffs so far
>not going to be surprised if im unemployed soon
Feels bad i wont have any income to buy the cheapies up.

[Anonymous No.18387279]

i miss these simpler times

[Anonymous No.18387287]

>>18387279
take me back

[Anonymous No.18387289]

>>18387277
You’re in the sweet spot. You don’t get paid enough, you’re cheap enough to keep. You’re a cheapie, anon!

[Anonymous No.18387293]

>>18386984
God is my savior

[Anonymous No.18387312]

>>18387046
2008 was not a V, even 2018 had that initial crash in october and then the bottom found around christmas. 2 months to find the bottom, with volatility in october after the crash. And this is nothing like 1987, that was a purely stock market crash based of computer fuckery, this is a fundamentals driven crash, the economy is shut down. Short of buying equities I do not think we see the Fed having more ammo, I mean they've already done a fuck ton. The initial drop was based off fear, the virus was a huge unknown, the oil war just started, the rally was based on Fed and Gov't intervention, the second leg down comes with the realization that the virus, although we probably do not see huge mass fatalities like iran, will linger on and slow economic activity for all of 2020, combined with the absolutely apocalyptic joblessness numbers realizing that their jobs might not be there when this is over.

Much more for the market to price it. We are at an 18% drop from ATHs, be honest, do you think that is a fair valuation of all the uncertainty we are going into? I think the market is pricing in a return to normal in the beginning of may, I don't see that happening. June at the least, open too quickly and we shut down again, Trump is a proud man, he doesn't want to be wrong, there will be mass testing before an open, temperature checks at public places. He wants it quickly, but done right, it is an election year.

The only way I see a chance at a V is if this virus is nothingburgered by may and fed starts buying SPY like no tomorrow, but that would be fucking shit news for the US economy, basically an admittal that we cannot keep up organic growth. Better to let it fall naturally and ensure liquidity to start up again.

[Anonymous No.18387332]

>>18387277
>>18387289
Cheap people go last. You just got a promotion! No raise though, moneys tight. You understand?

[Anonymous No.18387343]

did anyone make any actual money in 2020??

[Anonymous No.18387351]

>>18387289
>You’re a cheapie, anon!
I like that way of putting it. But which anon will buy me for their portfolio? I promise ill bring gains.

[Anonymous No.18387358]

>>18387169
I like XLNX. Don't know if SOXL is part of that but it's a good company that makes a whole software/hardware stack for FPGAs, an expensive but extremely useful computer component, that has only one competitor (in Intel) which is inferior. Their leadership and talent is high quality too. The only problem is they have exposure to the trade war/export controls/TSMC and could become a sacrifice on the altar of blaming china for everything.

[Anonymous No.18387359]

>>18387240
Should I sell ASAP then? Or at least once it hits my avg buy in?

[Anonymous No.18387362]

https://epdf.pub/bear-market-investing-strategies-wiley-trading.html

Required reading

[Anonymous No.18387373]

>>18387359
Dude, it's your money, stop asking others for advice, look up the company and decide whether you want to stay invested. Spoonfeeding is hurting you in the long run

[Anonymous No.18387378]

>>18387332
pretty much. don't worry anon. the higher you move up the more likely you are to get axed. They can't get rid of the actual cunts doing the work or they'd have no company left. Just feel the flow brother, ride the bull dance . . workin it . . workin it

[Anonymous No.18387382]

>>18387362
>1488 downloads

[Anonymous No.18387391]

I bought SPY at 250 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.18387395]

>>18387115
>Based on public filings, Powell's net worth is estimated to be as little as $19.7 million and as much as $55 million. He is the wealthiest member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.
I doubt he gives too much of a fuck lol

[Anonymous No.18387397]

Happy Good Friday anons! I hope you're being a good Christian and making sure you eat fish instead of meat today!

We'll make lots of gains on Monday I'm sure!

[Anonymous No.18387400]

>>18387312
1.2018, not 2008. There's no reason to think 2008 should've been a V. October 2018 was a crash? I remember it being a down market, but not CRASH bad.

2.Thing is, everyone realized it's not as bad as Ackman made it sound, and we haven't had the dissolution of law and order anywhere. The rich are coming home from their Pandemic Islands now that they see the worst was averted.

Unfortunately you and I and every other retail trader have large cash or short positions because we're hoping to revisit the lows. That often means it's even less likely to happen.

3. I don't see it as a purely fundamentals based crash, and the ferocity of the crash seems like it was largely do to some heavily leveraged traders who were forced to sell everything as margin calls came in, option calls were executed, etc.

[Anonymous No.18387405]

>>18387174
underrated

>>18387153
>maybe, but there's no percveived bad actors this time around, just a black swan and a government mandated shutdown, so there's wide support for keeping everything going, and providing loans that could become more like grants.

perfectly sums up my logic behind longing AAL this week. Forget about the buybacks! The US is now in the business of keeping everything afloat as it was before the virus. They let bear stearnes fail because there was some admission of wrong doing.

>>18387075
buy high and sell low. biz never changes

[There Will Be Blood No.18387420]

>>18386984
How many have faith Trump will reach a deal with Saudi Arabia tomorrow on oil? What will the market do monday?

[Anonymous No.18387421]

>>18387343
I made about four hundred bucks then lost 600, I think im up in crypto though

[Anonymous No.18387426]

>>18387289
I work in an industry where I make virtually no money, but it also recession proof. But then my friends who are laid off can in theory make more money than I make off of UI plus $600 per week, to essentially NEET. Never more have I felt like a wagie in a cagie, and there doesn't seem to be a lot I can do about it.

My best hope is that the bears win and deflationary spiral destroys the economy, but that my position survives. If it does, I could finally afford to buy cheap stock and more importantly property. This country is so fucked, I don't think we're going to recover from this frankly.

Anways, think I should long SND? Their cutting edge sand technology makes me think that they're prospects look mighty bullish

[Anonymous No.18387428]

>>18387214
Yurofag detected

[Anonymous No.18387430]

Anyone who believes a recovery is possible is delusional.
Sure, the Fed can print infinite money, but that doesn't fix productivity.
>30% unemployment
>skipped credit card payments
>mortgage crisis 2.0
>small businesses going under
>businesses finding out you can't actually get those corona loans
>people can't afford rent
>there will be massive evictions in June
>even if lock down is lifted there are no jobs
>hiring people can take weeks or months
>many jobs are gone for good, which is why they were fired
>manufacturing is completely shut down, expensive to restart
>supply chains are still in samples
>airlines only flying essential routes, often empty, definitely not buying new planes
>restaurants are all dead
>casinos and hotels are all dead
>REITs getting margin called, no way to stop it
>all major construction projects halted indefinitely
>dividends slashed across the board
>oil is going to continue to nose dive in a death spiral
>US energy companies going bankrupt very soon
>China is still locked down and minimum manufacturing
>Second wave of corona guaranteed
>people running out of money and no job will cause desperation
>inflation only making things worse

Plan accordingly. SPY 240 PUTs Sept 18

[Anonymous No.18387440]

I said I bought SPY at 250 weeks ago and its 280 now

[Anonymous No.18387441]

>>18387430
All of that is priced in. Cope harder bitchhhhhh

[Anonymous No.18387446]

>>18387343
The equity value of my portfolio is almost back to where it was in January but I have the same amount of shares with more liquid cash. I’d say I’m doing good so far.

[Anonymous No.18387454]

>>18387426
trade-off of living in a first world county mang. Could be you out of work on the gibs. I'd rather be working myself. the gibs aint living.

[Anonymous No.18387459]

5.2% drop coming Monday.

[Anonymous No.18387465]

>>18387441
Ironic or not, this is exactly the sentiment people should be concerned over.

[Anonymous No.18387466]

>>18387430
What does any of that have to do with stocks?

[Anonymous No.18387468]

>>18387430

[Anonymous No.18387471]

>>18387430
Earnings reports for some big players are coming out over the next two weeks and I'm expecting the market to do a major correction. Maybe as early as mid-late next week.

[Anonymous No.18387478]

>>18387440
Good job. Now do something else cool.

[Anonymous No.18387485]

>>18387441
even if Mr Bobo is losing money I'd still say he's smarter than you eternal bulltards.
Learn when to change positions, stop acting like a nigger. You dipshits said a crash couldn't happen in February.

[Anonymous No.18387486]

>>18387471
unironically priced in. markets looking at q3

[Anonymous No.18387488]

I'm a finance major and only have 6 months left till I graduate and still don't know what alpha or beta mean

[Anonymous No.18387490]

>>18387459
I wish.

[Anonymous No.18387497]

>>18387488
youre a beta and im an alpha. make sense now?>>18387459
>t-this time for sure!!
no

[Anonymous No.18387498]

>>18387430
>>18387440
You retards. Wait for the euphoria to fade and resistance to start, and be careful of overnight pumps. We're probably a few days off of a turning point. Don't get fucked by option decay and high fees by guessing and taking them out months away.

[Anonymous No.18387503]

>>18387465
Housing is in the shitter and has no sign of recovery.
Same retards will be confused when the debt bubble pops.

[Anonymous No.18387505]

>>18387471
surely it is to be expected though? I mean why wait until the actual earnings confirm what you already know? certain industries have already been battered based on their future prospects being shit. why would they get battered again?

[Anonymous No.18387514]

>>18387488
>I'm a finance major and
Why would you? Finance has nothing to do with valuations and stocks. Its with counting up beans.

[Anonymous No.18387516]

>>18387471
>>18387486
>>18387505
Actually, this next week is bank week reports. I suspect they will have better than expected results. Banks are greedy as fuck, they control the loans and are calling in margins specifically for this. Don't bet against banks. We might even see $300 end of next week. Imagine recovering 80% after a drop of 40% and believing its REAL. Its disgusting. I plan on buying my puts then.

[Anonymous No.18387522]

>>18387497
what do you mean "this time"? We had entire weeks of red in March.
Where were you? Oh. Shitting yourself. While the "schizos" made bank.

[Anonymous No.18387532]

>>18387514
Yeah

[Anonymous No.18387537]

>>18387505
Earnings put the qualitative speculation into a quantitative context. It’s important.

[Anonymous No.18387543]

>>18387516
i'm planning to liquidate my portfolio and buy puts next week, if we hit 300 i'll shit a brick. Beyond the "priced-in" meme there is no fucking reason why a free-fall back to 220 isn't possible. It's fucking scary anons

[Anonymous No.18387546]

>>18387486
This is what scares me. I don't think things will be back to normal by Q3. I think we will be in a major global recession by then. However my puts expire well before that.

Even if the virus went away tomorrow we are still in for a global recession due to both demand and supply shocks as well as too much debt.

I couldn't believe it when the markets didn't react to a 10% unemployment in 3 weeks. Still shocked.

[Anonymous No.18387551]

>>18387400
Not really a crash, just couldn't think of another word, correction I guess.

Ackman was dramatic, but bullish sentiment is getting decently high, maybe more of a squeeze gets us to touch the 290s, but an 18% haircut after an 11 year 471% bull run? With a global economic shutdown and a still ongoing collapsed oil market? The risk to reward just isn't there. Perfectly reasonable to assume a second wave, that would fuck us over.

[Anonymous No.18387577]

>>18387551
yeh, second wave in the southern hemisphere when winter hits mixed with the chaos of standard colds and flu making every cunt thing they got the rona. hmmm, you make some interesting points anon.

[Anonymous No.18387580]

>>18387441
*Blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.18387581]

Is TSLA a really meme to buy? It did well yesterday

[Anonymous No.18387601]

>>18387581
too late

[Anonymous No.18387602]

>>18387400
>>18387551
There was little reason we were at SPY 330 before the crash. We were only there because the future looked like smooth sailing, not a single bad thing in the world. Then somehow, the world was turned upside down in a week. We lost 30%. Yet, somehow we've recovered over 50% of that in the past few weeks despite the fact everything is getting worse. If we couldn't justify 330 a month ago, how could we possibly justify 280-300 now?

[Anonymous No.18387612]

>>18387516
I can see this happening. Maybe not to 300, but a totally irrational run up. The thing is there were problems in the market before corona happened. Already the early signs of a global signs of a global slow down and over leveraged companies/people. Corona revealed those problems and gave central banks and excuse to nationalize the bond market bailing out corporations.

How do you recomend covering? most of my portfolio is in SPY puts that expire at the end of the month. Thinking about going long TSLA and RTX with what remains. Should I use puts or just buy the stock at this point?

[Anonymous No.18387613]

>>18387581
Tesla is overpriced.
I like the company but there's no reason for it to be over 500$

[Anonymous No.18387615]

>>18387581
TSLA is pure speculation. a company doing well one day doesn't somehow make it solid. TSLA is such a meme that you might as well be trading crypto

[Anonymous No.18387625]

https://www.lynalden.com/global-dollar-short-squeeze/
https://www.lynalden.com/great-depression/
interesting articles

[Anonymous No.18387633]

When is the g20 meeting?

[Anonymous No.18387637]

>>18387581
TSLA is a proxy for Elon Musk and all his ventures.

[Anonymous No.18387657]

>>18387613
>>18387615

I figured out why people don't understand tesla. It's not a meme and it helps to be some kind of engineer to get why this company is experiencing parabolic growth and what that means for the net present value.

their Tech is, no joke, at least 8 years ahead of their next closest competitor which is volkswagen. Electric cars will replace gas cars in the near future becuase electric power trains have a much higher potential ceiling that gas power trains. ICE technology is basically tapped out at this point where as electric increases in efficiency at about 10% a year.

[Anonymous No.18387663]

>>18387612
You should probably get loner dated puts, like months out at least. I was retarded and panicked and bought too close and got burned hard. Farther out allows you to get out if things arent changing.

[Anonymous No.18387678]

>>18387581
I bought one share on Monday, couldn't help myself

[Anonymous No.18387686]

>>18387657
Tesla is a tech company masked as car company. I very much believe Tesla will drive major innovation in the future, but the stock price is too high for the coming recession/depression.

[Anonymous No.18387694]

>>18387663
smart. I'm new to options. I thought for sure when people started seeing those unemployment numbers they would realize there is more going on than just the virus.

The markets are completely reactive to virus news. but in the medium run (3months-2years) that isn't going to be the main concern.

[Anonymous No.18387724]

>>18387686
I thought that too for awhile, but remember that tesla has been a supply limited company for its entire existence. We don't actually know how deep demand is for tesla.

Tesla also has lots of exposure to Asia where I expect the recession will be less bad.

Finally Tesla is fundementally limited by battery production which is really their core technology. Tesla sells power battery units which enable grids to actually make use of renewable energy for example. The batteries for those are fundamentally the same as the batteries in all their cars.

If car demand slowed down enough tesla could lower it's battery cost and sell more national infrastructure battery instillations. Also remember that infrustructure spending will be big if there is a recession.

[There Will Be Blood No.18387725]

>>18387633
Friday's G20 meeting is scheduled to begin at 1400 GMT

[Anonymous No.18387739]

>>18387686
I think of tesla is more similar to a conglomerate like SAMSUNG that has some core technology it excels at that then goes into many related products. Samsung does transistors. Tesla does batteries and power management.

[Anonymous No.18387751]

>>18387724
I feel like the limiting factor is less supply and more nobody wants to drop fifty grand on an unproven meme car

[Anonymous No.18387774]

BVLL! BVLL! BVLL! TODAY, MY BVLL BROTHERS, WE SHALL RIDE ON AND SLAY THOSE FILTHY, STVPID BEARS ONCE AND FOR ALL! BVLL! SVRGE!

REPEAT: BVLL! BVLL! BVLL!

[Anonymous No.18387780]

>>18387287
Soon my friend, soon.

[Anonymous No.18387790]

>Me holding my SDOW

[Anonymous No.18387791]

>>18387751
This. Most people drive $15k shitboxes and TSLA doesn’t make a $15k shitbox.

[Anonymous No.18387793]

@18387774
filtered

[Anonymous No.18387797]

>>18387751
Maybe you don't like it, but they can't make enough to get one to everyone who purchases one right now. There's been a waiting list for years.

The car is fundamentally better than an ICE car in almost every metric. Even maintance is far lower since the thing is super simple compared to ICE. Far less moving parts. Far less fluids. Even the breaks last forever since there is extremely powerful regenerative braking (even more than a hybrid). Disk brakes are hardly ever used.

[Anonymous No.18387812]

To that anon who posted the Bear market book thanks.

Holy shit it makes so much sense why the market is rallying why it may still fall and how I got so stuck on “this doesn’t make sense to everything is shit why is the stock market retracing”

Wish I had read it sooner before I lost my 1.9k

[Anonymous No.18387827]

>>18387351
You’ll be fine anon. Never forget that the ultimate goal is, as cheesy as it sounds, being that moon mission company in your own portfolio.

Leverage your current job into a better position somewhere else and repeat until /comfy/. It isn’t always simple but you can do it.

[Anonymous No.18387831]

>>18387797
I know literally nothing about tesla and I know not to listen to a guy that doesn't know how to spell brakes about cars

[Anonymous No.18387846]

>>18387791
The company could make a car the cost as much as a Toyota Camry right now, but why? it would takes batteries away from cars with larger margins. As tesla is able to produce enough batteries they will move down market and sell cheaper cars.


Tesla and frankly the world is limited by how many batteries can be produced. Companies are spinning up new battery factories as fast as they can. Tesla will likely go into mining bc they can't even get enough raw materials. Everything is supply constrained right now.

You are use to thinking about demand constrained companies that's just not the case here.

[Anonymous No.18387858]

>>18387426
As rough as it sounds, keep your job. Free money is temporary.

Invest in yourself, whether that is moving somewhere else or seeking higher education which actually provides a tangible benefit. Keep it up, you’ll make it sooner rather than later.

[Anonymous No.18387861]

>>18387271
there's no real reason to bet on hyperinflation, but I do think inflation will jump up when the economy does start to bottom. Not for the reasons you site, you are hellbent on an overly pessimistic view.

If this extremely negative perspective shapes your general views in life, I would be very careful about that.

>>18387602
>We were only there because the future looked like smooth sailing
>There was little reason we were at SPY 330
pick one
The global manufacturing recession looked like it was bottoming, trade relations were improving, brexit outlook was improving, Japan looked like it's nightmare recessions was coming to an end and the olympics would go off quite well, there were so many reasons to think the future WAS bright. Yes the multiple expansion got us the markets there, but the market is always ahead of the economy, and the global economy could have caught up.

>>18387551
>an 18% haircut after an 11 year 471% bull run
there's no rules that say the market needs to crash after X amount of gains or X amount of years. Especially now that the federal government and global central banks have seen how their tools performed for the past 20 years, and have much more free reign in using them.

I pray we revisit the lows. Even as I sunk 1k into longs this past week. But your reasons don't make me think it's likely.

[Anonymous No.18387870]

Help me pls.
I bought CCL and now I have 18% gains on it. Now I dont know what to do with it.
Im prepared to hold it for a long ass time but should I?

[Anonymous No.18387882]

>>18387831
I've been found out!

[Anonymous No.18387891]

>last haircut was in mid feb
>hair salon closed for lockdown
>nyc lockdown probably won't be lifted till june at the earliest
i am going to look like a homeless man by the time this is over

[Anonymous No.18387904]

>>18387861
The 'bright future' kicks greed into over drive,causing people to leverage up like crazy, causing an inflated stock market. You could say it was priced in.

[Anonymous No.18387909]

Only the NYSE is closed tomorrow right? So theoretically the euro and Asian oil companies should react relatively similar to ours? Or does that not conflate

[Anonymous No.18387920]

>>18386984
DEAR LORD,

I love you. Please, Im too poor.

Can I have your blessing please Oh dear Lord. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18387934]

>>18387214
Belgium ahahaha, one of the worst hit shitholes

Japan or Austria dealt way better with it

[Anonymous No.18387935]

>>18387891
Do yourself a favor.

https://wahlusa.com/products/haircutting.html?category%5B0%5D=clippers

[Anonymous No.18387977]

>>18387861
No need for the arm chair psychoanalysis

[Anonymous No.18387988]

who /asx/ here?

[Anonymous No.18387993]

>>18387935
is this what the average /smg/ anon looks like?

[Anonymous No.18388001]

>>18387993
More beard and no earring but yeah that’s about what I look like.

[Anonymous No.18388015]

>>18387827
>Leverage your current job into a better position somewhere else and repeat until /comfy/. It isn’t always simple but you can do it.
Thanks. Its what im trying to do now, might have some success but hard to say until its confirmed.

[Anonymous No.18388018]

>>18387426
>bears win and deflationary spiral destroys the economy
the doomer bears actually think we're going to get runaway inflation, the "petrodollar" will become "toilet paper" and the US will destabilize into warring coalitions while China rises to become the world champion and rules the world.

>>18387812
did it actually tell you anything we haven't been telling you for weeks?

[Anonymous No.18388032]

>>18387891
Same kek
>>18388015
>until it
Top tip: lie lie lie or at least embellish, everybody else does, unless government job

[Anonymous No.18388039]

>>18387977
I actually do want to know if his vision is clouded from that, and do want him to be careful because it really can poison your life and hurt you
>t. bias towards pessimism

[Anonymous No.18388052]

thursday night

[Anonymous No.18388055]

>>18387891
I haven't been to a barber in years. You should definitely buy a wahls clippers and learn how to cut your own hair. You'll not only save money but you'll save a lot of time as well.

[Anonymous No.18388077]

>>18388052
whatcha drinkin kouhei

[Anonymous No.18388086]

>>18388055
Do you enjoy being bald?

[Anonymous No.18388094]

>>18388055
My hair is too retarded to cut by myself. I can't have a haircut like yours, my hair is too jewish.

[Anonymous No.18388119]

Why the fuck do some countries ban short selling stocks? Do they not believe that markets work?

[Anonymous No.18388126]

>buy 1 k shares of NIO for 2.5k
>wait 10 years
>become a millionare

It is that simple. Or do you hate free money?

[Anonymous No.18388129]

>>18388055
Checked, start lifting asap and never post your photo on 4chin again. I say this with all the love in the world, anon.

[Anonymous No.18388140]

>>18388055
based

[Anonymous No.18388143]

>>18388126
why

why are you turning chink stocks into Kleros sir

[Anonymous No.18388151]

>>18388126
what advantages does nio have over tsla?

[Anonymous No.18388168]

>>18388018
The thing is there is so much noise that you have to filter out and you get FOMOd into going one way and then doubling down because the logical thing is to not separate the stock market and reality. Much like there is a lagging effect on the top of a bull market there is also a lagging effect on the bull. Don’t get me wrong I’m still bearish overall but I’m not so stuck on being a bear as I was.

The world is screaming bloody murder and everything looks bleak. But that is unironically priced in.

I know I’m just repeating as you said, things that have been said. But I guess it’s a lesson learned about sheepishly following everyone else in thinking. And being stubborn about it.

There is still I have to learn.
Mind you that’s why I went with 2k rather than all in because this is a learning experience through and through.

[Anonymous No.18388171]

>>18388151
One will probably scam you out of all of your money and the other will probably scam you out of all of your money but you can probably cry to the US government about it.

[Anonymous No.18388174]

>>18387993
This is me.

[Anonymous No.18388183]

Opec and their twitter bitch really managed to trick everyone into thinking there was a deal, huh?

[Anonymous No.18388190]

>>18388055
I would fuck my shit up unless i decide to buzz it all off

[Anonymous No.18388215]

hope folks are doing alright out there. i got some good positions last week, holding everything over the weekend because i'm garbage at timing the market. we'll see if i get skullfucked

niggers tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.18388217]

>>18388190
Pls be my gf

[Anonymous No.18388225]

[Anonymous No.18388229]

>>18387277
Bullish

[Anonymous No.18388235]

>>18388190
You need to lift and get a short, tapered haircut. God bless.

[Anonymous No.18388244]

>>18388077
Glenshire Gin, They practically give it away at rite aid

[Anonymous No.18388252]

>>18388168
yes I too have much to learn, and have never truly traded in a bear market. I am not sure if we truly are in a bear market, but it seems probable. Maybe I'll give the book a look.

>>18388244
niiiice
little lafroige for me tonight
I need a taste of fire for the battles to come

[Anonymous No.18388262]

>>18388225
There needs to be an even lower level for "OOOOH", "AHHHHH", and "TOO COCKY" posting

[Anonymous No.18388288]

>>18388235
if I lift my skeleton arms will snap in half

[Anonymous No.18388289]

>>18388225
tripfags are beneath the serfs they are more like the smelly homeless.

[Anonymous No.18388293]

>>18387046
That meme is gay
Unlike me
It is but an ugly girl from FL

[Anonymous No.18388300]

>>18388183
Did she say a deal was done? OPEC (minus Mexico) and Russia reached an agreement in principle yesterday afternoon. Saudis and Russia look to be contributing a but of 8.5 million bpd each, the smaller countries to kick in a percentage cut of some kind yet to be announced. Mexico is one of those smaller countries. Anyway, no need to overestimate Mexico's power here. They're not big enough to change OPEC's direction. This is nothing like Russia saying no, period, and leaving the March meeting, which in turn caused the Saudis to crash the price. Mexico is more of an annoyance that will be dealt with come push and shove.

[Anonymous No.18388304]

>>18388288
https://youtu.be/UXy7O88jlh4

[Anonymous No.18388305]

>>18388288
please write to scooby. he will probably send you some optimum whey also checked

[Anonymous No.18388311]

>>18388304
this is ultimate boomer faggotry
please kill yourself

[Anonymous No.18388328]

You're not gonna get out of this easy bears. When you say we're doomed, I will ask "compared to what?". China and Europe have had stagnant growth. China's GDP has grown to it's lowest point since the early 90s.

When America took this virus up the ass, we were growing above 4% a year. You can say it's all fake and gay and I agree but it's what the world uses as a metric.

America will rise out of this bruised but not broken while Europe and China will fucking fall apart

The global perception of China comes from it's propaganda arms. They are not doing great.

So who emerges when the dust settles? Uncle Sam. That's who.

[Anonymous No.18388334]

Somebody save the USD please.

[Anonymous No.18388335]

>>18388311
Boomers are the ones most hysterical about the virus. Give yourself the R. Budd Dwyer treatment or return to /pol/

[Anonymous No.18388340]

>>18388300
You should also be aware that some of the G20 countries not associated with OPEC and OPEC++-+ are expected to announce their own cuts this weekend to the tune of an estimated additional 5 million bpd combined. It's all bad news for every country involved whether OPEC, OPEC allied, or otherwise. Oil will not be allowed to slump sub $20 for any length of time without a vicious fight first to stop it.

[Anonymous No.18388341]

>>18388300
The whole thing is confusing. But my undertanding is that it will be no deal if mexico doesnt join.

[Anonymous No.18388342]

America always wins. ALWAYS!!!11

[Anonymous No.18388353]

>>18388334
https://youtu.be/b58pbwN3c2I

[Anonymous No.18388354]

>>18388341
It'll get worked out somehow.

[Anonymous No.18388361]

>>18388340
Russia started the price-war for a reason, and wont give up so easely. Countries like that has a longer horizon than oil futures

[Anonymous No.18388369]

>>18388361
Yeah but Russia is agreed to cut now.

[Anonymous No.18388383]

>>18388369
Yeah but I suspect there is a lot of smoke and mirrors here. We'll see

[Anonymous No.18388398]

w8w8w8
the moscow stockexchange is open
...

BUY BUY BUY BUY

[Anonymous No.18388409]

>>18388328
This is some cope. Europe might have problems but China won't. The US will probably have the most political difficulties here and might end up going full phasicst depending on how badly they fuck up. They have the least skilled and most sycophantic and myopic leadership of any point in history right now.

[Anonymous No.18388433]

>>18388383
Probably want to back off cause of the rona. Black Swans and all that. A lot of countries don't want to deal with ultra cheap oil fucking them up right now.

[Anonymous No.18388445]

aahhhh that first coffee of the morning

[Anonymous No.18388450]

>>18388433
You may be right. But there is no deal yet, and it remains to be seen who, if anybody, will honor the deal

[Anonymous No.18388464]

>>18388383
As far as Mexico is concerned, I have been able to suss out the gist of the disagreement. It's just about the specific number Mexico is to cut. They initially came to the table with an offer of 100k bpd, they were asked to do 400k bpd. 400k number was apparently arrived at based on 2018 production numbers for Mexico. the Mexican finance minister, Nahle, argued their numbers have changed and different calculations should apply, reportedly rage quit the conference call. However, talks continued after Nahle left and reports indicate this matter will continue to be negotiated during G20.

source for the 400k bpd figure is here (it's Russian media):
https://tass.com/economy/1142699

[Anonymous No.18388472]

>>18387861
>No reason to get on hyperinflation
Globally money is being devalued at astronomical levels. QE is absolutely out of control. Not saying hyperinflation is probable, but it is certainly within the realm of possibilities.

[Anonymous No.18388507]

>Want to get started on Options once I make first big profit

I think I could be successful at it.
I'm successful as a stock trader. I don't see why Options are all that different aside from the elevated threat of failure.

But at the same time Stocks are easier because there's a grace period, and I have fumbled numerous times without clue as to whether a stock will fall or rise.

Does anybody here have experience with this? How did you enter the world of Options trading? I need to use all of my 142 IQ while I'm still young and walk away from this game.

[Anonymous No.18388530]

>>18388288
Your arm is shaped like a bird leg.

[Anonymous No.18388535]

Hello, started investing on March 13th. My goal is to someday own 100 shares of something so I can sell people options. Hopefully I can inch closer towards that when the stimulus check arrives.

What are your short term goals /smg/?

[Anonymous No.18388541]

I am financially recovering

[Anonymous No.18388543]

>>18388535
are you going for the based covered call strategy?

[Anonymous No.18388551]

I think these Bears are wrong to be bearish at this point in time. It's going to fall into a lull, but it's not going to be anywhere close to the first bear-market drop even with the economic shock.

It was pure hysteria/fear on a bloated market, and it's really only up from this point on.

I do believe in a crab market though

[Anonymous No.18388566]

Convince me NOT to dump my Trumpbucks into a Vanguard ETF /smg/.

[Anonymous No.18388570]

>>18388535
>What are your short term goals
Paizuri, irrumatio, nakadashi

[Anonymous No.18388574]

>>18387214
No picture of Taiwan.
Chinese shill detected.

[Anonymous No.18388575]

>>18388566
I can't.
t. VTI bagholder

[Anonymous No.18388586]

>>18388566
I prefer vanguard mutualfund VDIGX

[Anonymous No.18388595]

>>18387115
I think Powell is making the best decesions he can for the nation and has been pretty on the ball. The United States has been putting itself into a shitty financial situation for years, his job is just to keep this shoddy GM car running

[Anonymous No.18388604]

>>18387214
I know this is troll, but where's south Korea

[Anonymous No.18388624]

>>18388586
>0.22% expense ratio
that's a no from me

[Anonymous No.18388636]

>>18387430
Everyone with money knows all that junk. It could take until July for any of it to show up in markets though

[Anonymous No.18388638]

/newb/ here, help me understand guys, ETFs are safer than regular stocks but not as high-profit?
since generally some parts of the index will go down?

[Anonymous No.18388639]

>>18388507
>How did you enter the world of Options trading?
Rh makes it simple as fuck. Buy SPY calls/puts depending on how you think the market will behave that day and don't get too greedy when you have a close expiry. I know less than you do probably and I've still made 1500$ this past month just guessing. I got btfo when the market pumped on that first 3 million+ unemployment report, so my biggest single loss on an option has been about $300.

[Anonymous No.18388647]

>>18387581
TSLA is a slot machine. Have never traded it in my life. I don't care if it had a mega run up to 900, i like slow growth since it's easy to make cash and hard to lose

[Anonymous No.18388649]

>>18388151
It is severely undervalued thanks to chink virus and has potential to moon.

[Anonymous No.18388654]

>>18387430
>recovery isn't possible

What? The main problem here is social distancing and telling people to stay home. When the COVID is a story of the past - everything will go back to normal (gradually of course but still go back)

...unless you're saying that the US financial system is so broken at this point that it simply can't recover from a hit such as this? O_O

[Anonymous No.18388668]

>>18388624
outpreforms most everything else I've checked even after fees

[Anonymous No.18388669]

>>18388055
Nice hair cut fren

[Anonymous No.18388679]

>>18388668
doesn't look like it beats VOO at 5 years

[Anonymous No.18388690]

>>18388507
turned 3k into 6k. now i have nothing. all in the span of a month.

[Anonymous No.18388707]

>>18387105
This isn't crypto, faggot. As if /biz/ can move the price by shilling it here. It's the big boy market. Buy it, don't buy it. No one cares

[Anonymous No.18388713]

All in on SPY calls is one of the best plays in the today-June.

You’ve been warned

[Anonymous No.18388719]

test

[Anonymous No.18388724]

>>18388654
Tell us what will become of the unemployed, who were let go from companies who are making no revenue while they still need to pay loans. Will they just magically be hired back? At their old salary? What will happen to the unemployed person's house when they can't afford the mortgage they took out for that $400k three bedroom? What will happen to the landlord when 3/5 of his tenants can't pay rent and he can't find new renters at a price which keeps him solvent?

[Anonymous No.18388730]

>>18388690
You aren't alone. I even doubled down too early in the rebound and got fucked hard by this week. Live and learn

[Anonymous No.18388741]

>>18388719
Unsuccessful.

[Anonymous No.18388745]

>>18388724
money printer go brrrrr

[Anonymous No.18388777]

yeah im thinking we're back

[Anonymous No.18388781]

>>18388638
An ETF gives you diversification in a single position. Diversification shields you from much of the tomfoolery that occurs on a day to day basis with individual company share prices as one stock being screwy, out of a baskets of tens or hundreds, is not going to budge the average much. Keep in mind this depends on the ETF. ETFs tracking specific sectors exclusively can be nearly as volatile as individual stocks. The relatively safe choice is a etf tracking market index like the S&P, Nasdaq 100, or dow.

[Anonymous No.18388783]

>>18388445
What fucking time zone are you in

[Anonymous No.18388805]

>>18388783
I just had my second cup and I'm in the America.

[Anonymous No.18388808]

>>18388445
My favorite /biz/ poster desu

[Anonymous No.18388840]

happy good friday everyone

[Anonymous No.18388841]

>>18388055
your head shape is fucked mate. Enjoy going full Elliot Rodger

[Anonymous No.18388875]

>>18388805
Goddamn. What's your sleep schedule like? Super early riser or night owl shut in?

[Anonymous No.18388902]

Any biotech stock to hold?
Also could you explain the ''why'' of your shill?

[Anonymous No.18388914]

>>18388875
I work the graveyard shift.

[Anonymous No.18388926]

>>18388902
INO and MRNA.

Both started vaccine early, earlier than anybody else, they're both likely to get it done since they're both on the same principle. INO is dirt fucking cheap right now, MRNA dipped since I bought it because of fucking course.

[Anonymous No.18388976]

>>18388574
wtf r u talking about, the pic is about them all being white.

[Anonymous No.18388991]

>>18388926
>Both started vaccine early, earlier than anybody else, they're both likely to get it done since they're both on the same principle. INO is dirt fucking cheap right now, MRNA dipped since I bought it because of fucking course
are this companies only involved in coronavirus or also in other potencially life savings drugs?
And which is the thing that makes you bet on them instead of other bio-techs?

[Anonymous No.18389014]

>>18388991
>or also in other potencially life savings drugs?
Both also have vaccines for other shit coming up, it's just kung flu vaccine will be most likely to give it short-term moon.

And honestly I think MRNA has best chances out of the two but I'm not going to discount INO, even if INO is late it will still be profitable. Other biotechs are trash.

[Anonymous No.18389049]

>>18388976

[Anonymous No.18389154]

>>18388840
why isn't jesus holding a frog?

[Anonymous No.18389168]

how do i get better at knowing when the dump is going to happen after a mad dash turbo rally? robinhood almost fucked me but luckily i was patient and a couple hours later i made even more than the initial panic FOMO spike. i dropped $2 on these calls yesterday and sold them for $32 today even though the high went up to like $54 later but i just wanted to cash out ASAP in case everything collapsed and not get greedy. all day today i kept day dreaming about how my life would have changed if i had YOLOD $1,000 on these calls. $2 turned into $32, with $1,000 i could have had 500 calls x $32 for $16,000 which is a lot for my poorfag ass. anyone else have crazy stories from today?

[Anonymous No.18389204]

THE BEAR MARKET IS OVER

IT'S A NOTHING BURGER

GET BACK IN TO STOCKS

THERE WILL BE A V SHAPED RECOVERY

IT'S NOT TOO LATE

[Anonymous No.18389230]

>>18388902

half of my funds are in ATHX right now, they have a stemcell drug that can basically cure the pneumonia problem that coronavirus causes, although theyve been working at the drug way before corona, its in the final stages of testing and already confiremd to work and more importantly they have the ability in house to start mass production right now all they are waiting on is FDA clearance. they are the real deal, CEO was just on fox news this week
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6146319436001#sp=show-clips

their partner company in japan exercised the right to buy 7 million dollars worth of shares 2 weeks ago

https://apnews.com/Business%20Wire/5bf66c9df2684095b96fbd9018e3f824

so yeah do your own research but im feeling pretty good about them. they dont have much in competition, i think there is one competitor company that has a drug for ARDS but they arent as far along and havent been FDA fast tracked the way ATHX has.

[Anonymous No.18389252]

>>18389204
i am already into stocks
but how do I buy more
when someone decided that he will not work because of a jew that died centuries ago

[Anonymous No.18389259]

ITS BACK

[Anonymous No.18389277]

>>18389259
whats the scale of that graph? 30 cases is nothing if thats just 1:1, also why havent they banned travel into their country

[Anonymous No.18389278]

>>18389168
I had 30 SPY 270 April 9th calls I bought on April 8th for $200 and sold for like $250 a little later so you did way better than me %-wise.

[Anonymous No.18389285]

I don't want to look at daily swings. OOOOOOoo's and AAAAAAAAAA's.
How do I set it up so I get a notification per Email that S&p 500 or Dow Jones hit bellow a certain ticker so I can go in?
I want to miss the upswings...hibernate through those days...if you will.
Thank you for your attention.

[Anonymous No.18389292]

>>18389277

[Anonymous No.18389307]

>>18389278
you must have been staring and cheering SPY on today like crazy the same way i was every time it would get rejected at $280. watching that shit keep getting rejected was nerve wracking but we finally did it

[Anonymous No.18389317]

post cute lambs

[Anonymous No.18389320]

>>18389285
you have more profit potential on upswings and they are easier and more consistent to predict and trend. lmao why would you box yourself into a niche strategy instead of playing both sides

[Anonymous No.18389321]

>>18387057
Stop spamming this shit, no one gives a fuck if everything you touch turns to shit

[Anonymous No.18389331]

>>18389320
Look.
Without going into details- my broker doesn't offer puts or options.
I only have stocks, etfs, mutual funds. I buy low and sell high. I need some lows and I know they are coming soon.

[Anonymous No.18389332]

>>18389292
i hope they all fly to china. the hong kong protestors should make a point to visit the "homeland" if they get sick and pay homage to the beautiful and majestic CCP

[Anonymous No.18389359]

>>18388654
>What? The main problem here is social distancing and telling people to stay home. When the COVID is a story of the past - everything will go back to normal (gradually of course but still go back)

What do you mean by normal? If you mean SP500 levels before the crisis, that was not normal. That was bloated as fuck even for a healthy market

[Anonymous No.18389362]

>>18389307
I sold them the same day I bought them no way I could have held overnight with OPEC and everything. Seeing it hit $280 sucked but at least I am up like 20% overall this week so I can't complain.

[Anonymous No.18389377]

I want to get balls deep into GUSH, but without a fear of losing the money.

Will GUSH get higher eventually? Is there any reason to not buy it so cheapie?

[Anonymous No.18389388]

>>18389230
>half of my funds are in ATHX right now, they have a stemcell drug that can basically cure the pneumonia problem that coronavirus causes, although theyve been working at the drug way before corona, its in the final stages of testing
how much time from the final stages of testing to approval?

[Anonymous No.18389389]

>Fed buying junk bonds
It is inevitable that they start buying equities and the first in line will be Boeing.
What a fucked timeline we live in.

[Anonymous No.18389399]

>>18389230
>their partner company in japan exercised the right to buy 7 million dollars worth of shares 2 weeks ago
why do they need to ''exercise the right to buy''?
Can't they simply buy?

[Anonymous No.18389401]

>>18389389
would it be better for Boeing to actually go bankrupt?

[Anonymous No.18389404]

>>18389377
We warn anons about leveraged ETFs every fucking thread but they always come away from it with the idea it's a get rich quick scheme. Go read a book nigger.

[Anonymous No.18389430]

>>18389404
but oil can't possibly get any cheaper than this right?

[Anonymous No.18389435]

>>18389430
Have you looked at futures? Because it was -13% last I looked an hour ago.

[Anonymous No.18389437]

>>18389377
Brother, Let’s Eiffel Tower that bitch.

[Anonymous No.18389446]

>>18389317

[Anonymous No.18389453]

>>18389435
yes and it can be a right time to buy

oil it's cheaper than 2008 and 2016
it can drop to 2002 levels, but it will have to pump eventually

[Anonymous No.18389454]

>>18389430
Doesn't matter. You are fucked if it crabs or if it falls even a little bit. The longer you hold it, the worse it is. And right now its two big problems in one: political and economical.
In short, OPEC members want to kill US shale. That is the root political problem.
There is huge reserves fucking everywhere now of oil. This coupled with reduced demand means that the price of oil is going to rise probably over the span of months or years IF the political problem is resolved.
You want a leveraged ETF that isn't shitcoin try SOXL or SPXL. They will rise if oil does, but will also rise in a hundred other ways too.
>>18389401
Boeing should be split into defense and civil side. The pork can keep the former alive forever. The second should be allowed to fail. McDonnell Douglas can't keep poisoning everything they touch with zero consequences.

[Anonymous No.18389463]

>>18387934
As a belgian, I can say this man is correct

[Anonymous No.18389468]

>>18389331
yep its just a matter of timing which is hard. this fed pump is going to prop things up for a bit. i think you will see things start to get very spicy by the time june rents are due. stock up on inverse ETFs before that

[Anonymous No.18389469]

>>18386984
Happy easter, frens.

[Anonymous No.18389477]

>>18389388
did you watch the CEOs interview?

[Anonymous No.18389480]

>>18389453
You could've said the same thing Wednesday morning, and you would've been down 20% at open today.

[Anonymous No.18389486]

>>18387351
>botanposting

[Anonymous No.18389488]

there are so many good deals on the market right now that I don't know what to pick to earn the most

all I see are cheapies

>>18389454
>two big problems in one: political and economical
that's priced in though

[Anonymous No.18389499]

>>18389480
it's only 20% down with the guarantee to spike eventually

will the oil break the price of 15$ and get lower than 2002? even if it happened it would only take a while

[Anonymous No.18389501]

>>18389399
yes but if they simply buy they would pay like a dollar more per share. did you read the news link? their warrant guaranteed them the right to purchase at $1.76 per share which they could cash in whenever they felt like it as long as they give 10 days notice and some other minor stipulations. that lets them not have their liquid capital bogged down by bagholding

[Anonymous No.18389509]

lol fuck me, i had a leveraged oil bear certs yesterday and took out profits when it was at 1% because i had to go away, what a nice surprise to see it at -7% when i came back AHH

[Anonymous No.18389534]

BBC Newsreader just coughed live on air

[Anonymous No.18389542]

>>18389454
they can want to kill US shale all they want, they arent going to kill big oil. Trump and frankly even the demoshits would never let the giants like HAL or XOM fail. no matter how much the dems pretend to hate big oil for their easily manipulated NPC brainlet voterbase, they recognize the necessity and wealth it provides. and given our current playbook of bailing everyone and their grandma out with fresh printed $100 bills, you can bet your ass the small shale companies will get propped up. and Trump knows we have the upper hand, its easier for us to prop those companies up than it is for Russia to keep bleeding their literal lifeblood source of their GDP. i doubt Putin wants to rile the peasants and start a russian revolution to topple his leadership when the breadlines start up again. both russia and the saudis know they need to dig themselves out of this hole they created, they are just trying to save face on the world stage after looking like total idiots. frankly nobody knew corona was going to bring all oil demand to a complete halt

[Anonymous No.18389577]

>>18389488
Oil does not remember its price.
Low point reference: Dec 2001 ($28)
Time to Reach $60: 3.5 (July 2004)

Jan 2009: $51
Time to Reach "plateau" of $100: ~1.4 years (Apr 2010)

Jan 2016: $36
Time to cross $60 barrier: 1.8 years (Nov 2017)

[Anonymous No.18389615]

>>18388361

What horizon, Ivan? You are fucking Nigeria in the snows trafficking cocaine for Venezuela lmao

Hope you will die en masses from corona

[Anonymous No.18389629]

>>18389542
>its easier for us to prop those companies up than it is for Russia to keep bleeding their literal lifeblood source of their GDP
Russia "has" to do this because SA is. For the very same reason that it is almost the entirety of their exports. As long as that is the case they can use that as the argument while getting the bonus of undermining shale.
> both russia and the saudis know they need to dig themselves out of this hole they created, they are just trying to save face on the world stage after looking like total idiots
What terms have been discussed so far don't actually stop the problem. It appears more as a "See, we tried" tactic that is mostly about baiting the US into overreaching. This price war was also started shortly after travel restrictions started popping up. They knew what they were doing. You hit shale when its weakest, such as low demand, so it has very little it can do to cushion itself except eat its reserves.
Only a few shale companies right now could survive if an agreement was made over night.
>you can bet your ass the small shale companies will get propped up
Bailing out an entire industry, with good and bad firms, is nationalizing it.

[Anonymous No.18389674]

What happens if I exercise call options and the writer doesn't have the stocks or liquidity to buy them? Would the broker take on his debt?

[Anonymous No.18389705]

https://www.investopedia.com/buffett-s-berkshire-hathaway-sells-millions-of-airline-shares-4801909
https://www.barrons.com/articles/warren-buffett-berkshire-hathaway-sells-bank-of-new-york-stock-51586467957
Why is Berkshire selling their airlines and bank stock now?
They don't think they can get back up?

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>>18389705
Buffett sold enough of his shares in airlines so that he would fall below the ownership rule that would require he report further trades involving them for up to 40 days. It might be because he can now buy up more shares if they fall without driving up the price.
The bank stocks is a little more curious.

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>>18387214
No joke. There is a porn star who looks exactly like Finnish mommy. Property sex.

[Anonymous No.18389761]

Fed buying junk bonds is just insane, what is the point of this? They've already been buying up risky mortgage bonds, giving 0% interest loans to businesses for stock buybacks, and printed insane amounts of money. If the fed can print profits into existence, why don't we just adopt socialism?

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>>18389629
>Bailing out an entire industry, with good and bad firms, is nationalizing it.

did you miss the 2 trillion dollar stimulus bill for airlines and car manufacturers last last week? and that was only phase 1 of proposed 4 phases so far

[Anonymous No.18389781]

>>18389534
bad omen, -9% on Tuesday

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>>18387613
$500 and you base that on pure fantasy. Tesla is a meme. A great company with a promising future, but 500 is still way to much.

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>>18389674
please respond

[Anonymous No.18389815]

Umm bullbros.. Wasn't one of the main reasons for this week's uptrend the decreasing cases in the states?

BNO just reported we made a new record.

[Anonymous No.18389822]

>>18389813
im pretty sure their broker has to supply it, and then they will rape the writer with fees and penalties and probably close his account

[Anonymous No.18389823]

>>18387797 because everybody has money and no idea how to spend it. During a big recession nobody is going to spend extra money on a car. Demand is going to plummet.

[Anonymous No.18389824]

>>18389813
No

[Anonymous No.18389826]

>>18388783

[Anonymous No.18389830]

>>18389815
no our uptrend is entirely from federal buying, nobody is even paying attnetion to the death tolls anymore that shit was priced in weeks ago when they said it would get worse

[Anonymous No.18389835]

>>18389761
They are bailing out the banks and high level private investors by doing this. Basically leveraging the crisis for corruption.

[Anonymous No.18389837]

>>18389389
>What a fucked timeline we live in.
why fucked?

[Anonymous No.18389844]

>>18389815
The rate of increase is decreasing.
>>18389835
I think it's both.

[Anonymous No.18389852]

>>18389768
Lfmao, last week was phase 3 already you retard. Phase 4 is uncertain.

[Anonymous No.18389854]

>>18389844
Meant for >>18389830

[Anonymous No.18389861]

Besides Greggs and Games Workshop, what are some other /biz/ approved Norf stocks?

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>>18389815
No, this is all about a hope hype after a fear hype plus (very important) massive short squeezing is currently occuring.

Once the quarterly numbers are released or once they are further delayed...we will see another huge leg down.

[Anonymous No.18389899]

>>18387343
I'm up 20% because I wasn't gonna let China win again

I traded options tho.

[Anonymous No.18389904]

>why are stocks rising

[Anonymous No.18389920]

>>18389904
>0.9% Asian.
Sure, sure.

[Anonymous No.18389923]

>>18389904

[Anonymous No.18389931]

>>18387430
>trading stocks without accepting that their prices are completely disconnected from reality

I'm sorry, fren, but you're in for a huge loss if you actually have that position

[Anonymous No.18389967]

>>18389830
You are delusional if you think changes in the infection rate can be pre-priced in.

>>18389844
Your approach is biased. You are comparing to the pool of total cases which includes more and more healthy cases. To get the real picture you should either:
a) Compare to the previous daily delta increase, which has been increasing for the past 3 days
OR
b) Compare to the nr of active cases, but this data is not actively reported and the nr of healthy is much more than reported.

Secondly, it's a known fact that US has had a lot of backlog that they've been clearing singe early March, which makes daily changes meaningless without further info.

[Anonymous No.18390000]

>>18389615
I'm Norwegian. I really dont root for russia in any way. But I dont underestimate them either

[Anonymous No.18390009]

>>18389904
HELLO, WHERE ARE THE JEWS?

[Anonymous No.18390053]

>>18387123
>Anyone else really bullish on semiconductors?

I have lost so much money on SOXL. Don't buy that shit whatever you do

[Anonymous No.18390120]

>>18390009
Where can they be?

[Anonymous No.18390133]

>>18387430
Stock markets are not the economy

[Anonymous No.18390140]

Anyone looking to get some BTC alts like ZANO or OGN? I think they might do well.

[Anonymous No.18390153]

>>18390140
Wong thread buckaroo

[Anonymous No.18390170]

>>18389837
Corporate socialism is the worst type of socialism. If there's no risk to doing business, then you can hire retards, pay yourself excessively, and generally fuck up as much as you want while still making it. Meanwhile everyone not in the billionaire club pays your bills. See: 2000-2020.

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>>18390120

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>>18390140
does the shitcoin shilling ever work? do people read "I think they might do well" and then buy a million dollars of the stuff? is that all it takes to pump your garbage?

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>>18387846
>can't even get enough raw materials

there is a massive surplus of lithium........

[Anonymous No.18390325]

>>18390170
2nd'ing This. Unironically anything that is "Too Big to Fail" should be nationalized. The whole balancing point of business is that if you do well you get to make a fuckload of money but you take on the risk that things might not work out (actually they likely won't work out, statistically) and if it fails you lose money.

it's basically like stocks. imagine if you could buy a stock and if it went down in value the taxpayers would pay for your losses. you'd probably go out and buy as much as you could on margin, because why not there's no risk. The other point I make is that the infrastructure is all there even if a business go bankrupt, all the employees are still alive too. it just gets sold for pennies on the dollar to someone else who takes it over and hopefully runs it better. the management should be the ones that get fucked if the business goes down, that's the whole point in why you have management and CEO's and shit in the first place, they're supposed to make the big bucks because if they fuck up they are supposed to eat the losses.

note how i say "supposed to" a lot because that isn't what currently happens but it's what SHOULD ideally happen. feels fucking bad, man. oh well, if you can't beat 'em join 'em, i got my unemployment insurance and trumpbux at least.

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>>18388713
That's right newfriend you buy that peak

[Anonymous No.18390394]

Will we seriously see a rest of lows or another downtrend?

Everyone is bearish and loading up on shorts and holding cash to wait to buy new cheapies. I don't imagine it'll be that easy.

[Anonymous No.18390416]

Happy Good Friday, bros. Peace be with you all.

[Anonymous No.18390427]

>>18390416
And to you anon.

[Anonymous No.18390433]

>>18390394
personally i don't see the point in having a long-term strategy at this point in time. everything is so crazy right now, day traders are the kings of the castle as a result. either that or you start DCA'ing now, and plan on holding for 10+ years.

[Anonymous No.18390447]

>>18390444
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>>18390444

thread

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[Anonymous No.18390450]

>>18390394
The inflation of previous QE is what created the "bull market". What happens when you make it INFINITE?

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>>18389359
i think he meant the economy and daily life going back to normal, anon.

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>>18390416
Happy Good Friday bro.

[Anonymous No.18390519]

>>18387279
Talking about cheapies in feb 12.... anon I ....

[Anonymous No.18390590]

>>18387430
Mostly right but construction is business as usual for now

[Anonymous No.18390826]

>>18387934
>Japan
>ignored it for months because muh Olympics
>getting slammed for it now