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>> No.18150347

>>18150342
SPX 2700 Monday

>> No.18150364
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>>18150347

>> No.18150368

>>18150347
pls no

>> No.18150371

We're getting the real black Monday in 43 hours aren't we?

>> No.18150381

>>18150342
SPX 700 Monday

>> No.18150387

>100k infected
>6 million to die by EOY
>president panicking and forcing companies to make stuff against their will
>but this is bullish for the stock market
The world doesn't always make sense.

>> No.18150389
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I have slowly come to the terrible revelation that none of you know what the fuck you are doing. I have a Master's in Accountancy with a minor in Finance. I work for a fortune 100 as a corporate accountant with a CMA and CPA. I used to have some faith in anon.
None of you know how to actually value a company. You can't read financial statements. For fuck's sake you think TA works and the entire field of decision science churns out dissertations every other day highlighting their absolute dismay at the fact that brainlets ever consider using it. You have no idea what Dunning-Kruger is. You don't know what survivorship bias is. You are fucked.

>> No.18150390

>>18150371
No retard. Bad news has already been priced in.

>> No.18150409

>>18150371
Correctamundo. Fuck tripfags btw.

>> No.18150422

>>18150342
Muh bull trap niggers are about to get rekt

>> No.18150428
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>everyone should be back to work on easter monday
>also i'm considering a president mandated quarantine on "developing hotspots"
are we still going to work on easter or not

>> No.18150436

>>18150371
No

>> No.18150437
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I'm done with /biz/. I'm definitely not done with Robinhood, I end up buying 20-30 new stocks every day, that will probably never change. But this stock really made me realize I no longer give a shit about anything you guys have to say. It made me realize that investor analyses mean nothing to me anymore. For so long have I been a child, now I can look into the mirror and truly see a man looking back at me. I no longer put any stock into the opinions or thoughts of people on the internet, from now on, I trust myself and those I consider closest to me in real life.

This is probably the single best stock I've owned this entire generation. It's one of the funnest stocks I've owned in years. I've purchased all of your favorite stocks. I'm probably better at Technical Analysis than most of you guys are, I've developed literally hundreds of trade bots of all sorts of different genres and styles. At last I truly realize how retarded like 99% of you guys are.

There are a few of you guys out there who are alright, keep on keeping on. But eventually you guys too will realize you're like me: you truly fucking love the stock market with all your heart, it's probably impossible to change that about yourself. And you'll realize your posting on a board full of complete morons who don't even invest, they just enjoy shitposting about it. These are people who are essentially broken on the inside and have likely lost most of their ability to enjoy things. They have no idea if it's priced in, or if the fact that it's priced in is priced in. The type of people who complain about stagnation in the industry, and when arguably the most revolutionary stock of the decade drops, they all gang up together to pretend that it isn't even free money, when in reality this is basically the easiest money of all time.

>> No.18150438

>>18150387

UK prime minister getting it was something inevitable that should genuinely have been priced in, and that caused a 6% drop

>> No.18150449
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18150449

Monday is going to be so damn green

>> No.18150452

>>18150347
please save my calls

>> No.18150463

>>18150438
Well at least the UK is making sense.
Now if Johnson dies and doesn't dump 20% just because of that, it would make more sense.

>> No.18150464

>>18150449
How come?

>> No.18150473

>>18150464
seasonality of the virus will become more apparent each passing day in any decent modeling system for this

>> No.18150476

>>18150389
Wtf dude go fuck yourself im up $439 YTD, that’s a 250% return. Neck yourself college boy

>> No.18150482

>>18150449
If it is, that means I can dump some positions with a 30% profit on one stock. Granted 30% of what I have in isn't much, but it'll be a profit nonetheless.

>> No.18150488

What are you buying, lads?

I'm buying:
Fever-tree
PZ Cussons
Greggs
Games Workshop

>> No.18150492

>>18150437
>>18150389
Kek

>> No.18150495

>>18150389
No shit this board is mostly 19 year olds from pol now

>> No.18150499
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>>18150488
lame index funds. having a plan is so fucking boring. maybe i should throw this away and start gambling.

>> No.18150513

>>18150488
tanker stocks

>> No.18150514

>>18150389
OK smart guy how do I make money fast on stocks, I wanna retire at 30.

>> No.18150517

>>18150499
you can do both

>> No.18150531

>>18150342
When should I go all in on weed and liquor stocks? They'll be the greatest earners during the depression.

>> No.18150533

It's just a casino. The sooner you guys realize this the sooner you can start making money.

>> No.18150536

>>18150514
If the quarantine and bleach is confirmed buy 50x leverage puts on monday, if you can't buy sqqq or sdow stock.

>> No.18150544

>>18150473
There's no fucking seasonality, cases in Singapore, Indonesia and Australia are literally exploding now

>> No.18150547

>>18150533
Tbh this is better than a casino because you don't lose all your money at once.

>> No.18150552

>>18150533
Why?
Stocks are based on future earnings.

>> No.18150556

>>18150371
yes, gonna be huge, I'm fucked cos Im 70% in stonks and just bought a house

>> No.18150557

>>18150499
based and boglepilled

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>>18150476
>>18150495
>>18150514
>unironically responding to pasta

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>>18150449
>nazi loli
stop posting cringe
also Monday is gonna be red

>> No.18150564

>>18150473
That's why its spreading literally all over the globe unaffected

>> No.18150565

>>18150544
This, it's also taking off in India and Sub-Saharan Africa. I have no idea why people are still clinging to this idea when tropical and subtropical locations around the world are seeing such a massive takeoff in cases.

>> No.18150570

>>18150533
The stock market doesn't kick you out if you win big, though.

>> No.18150581

>Northeast U.S about to be put under martial law

Not priced in.

>> No.18150582

>>18150544
>5
>>18150544
>>18150564

kek

you see how this plays out

I don't need to beat you in an argument

all I want from you is to burn that into your brain

"ITS NOT SEASONAL"

Burn that in.

And get back to me in two weeks. My argument I care about is my stock positions.

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>>18150570
no it just takes half of it

>> No.18150592

>>18150570
true. but my casino winnings aren't raped by Uncle Sam.

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>>18150488
What about Fever-tree/PZ Cussons interests you in particular? Would hold fire on Greggs/GW for now, plenty of time yet.

>> No.18150598

>>18150371
are you ready for the near 4000 point drop? I can't wait, kek

>> No.18150600

Look I am not a lolbertarian but how are commodities and the dollar down. I am not just talking the lolbertarian catnip of gold here.

>> No.18150603

>>18150581
What happens if Cuomo refuses?

>> No.18150604
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.18150614
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>>18150389
The best /smg/ pasta, and fucking true.

>> No.18150620

Brainlet here and never invested before. I've turned 20 and didnt want to invest In trumps market because it seemed too overpriced but this crash seems like a good gateway for me to start investing

Is now the time to buy?

>> No.18150621

>>18150582
t. someone that has been bagholding stocks too dumb enough to hedge with options or the like, seeing his portfolio get wiped and his wife fucked by another man

>> No.18150623

>>18150603
He has no authority.

>> No.18150625

>>18150592
Know how i know you've never won big at a casino?

>> No.18150627

>>18150600
Because gold as insurance for inflation is a meme. There's really no reason why that would be the case.

>> No.18150628
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We are going to hit 700,000 TODAY.

>> No.18150630

Lads if we headed to depression like I think and have a lot of stock in one company is it better to sell a good chunk and buy dip or ride out storm if you think it might go a lot lower? Wondering because compounding or whatever. Brainlet :/

>> No.18150638

>>18150536
>and bleach is confirmed

...what?

>> No.18150639

>>18150628
700,000 on Dow? PogChamp

>> No.18150640

Please let the quarantine happen. God imagine the puts. 3x 10x 50x it would be glorious.

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>>18150621

>> No.18150655

>>18150640
priced in month ago

>> No.18150656

>>18150620
Now is the time to short. Not buy, bad time to buy it will get lower.

>> No.18150662
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bulls on monday

>> No.18150673

>>18150449
Fucking better be.
I didn’t buy enough TWM
And I opened up some very stupid bullish spreads.

>>18150563
Isn’t she supposed to be a WWI loli?
I know the cringe lord muh hitler tards want to use her but that doesn’t mean they know shit.

>> No.18150675

bill microsoft's concerns priced in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A71lfXrQlxU

>> No.18150676

Are we crashing on monday? Tell me the truth.

>> No.18150688

>>18150676
I'm expecting +5% ish

>> No.18150689

>>18150645
sluggo is the ugliest shit

>> No.18150690

EXTREMELY BULLISH
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1243953994743103489

>> No.18150691

>>18150638
Bleach doesn't kill the beer flu according to one study
>>18150656
I'm not sure, anon. I think the politics and fear have been taken too far on this one. Don't be greedy.

>> No.18150692

>>18150639
no.

on the S&P.

>> No.18150694

>>18150676
Why would we? All the bad news is priced in and the good news is yet to come

>> No.18150698

>>18150676
there are no more crashes, only slightly red days due to fed intervention

>> No.18150708

>>18150640
>God imagine the puts.
Quarantine starts; markets all say fine, we're closing the markets for the duration of the quarantine, then shutdown the servers.
Now it's a party.

>> No.18150710

Some random thoughts:

The virus disproportionately kills the old, obese, diabetic, and those with cancer, cardiovascular disease, immune, and respiratory problems.
Won't the healthcare industry take a sizable hit in the long term given that these groups comprise the majority of their patients and profits?

What is the fate of surplus commercial real estate?
Malls, small businesses, restaurants, and other retailers will shut down faster than they already have been.
Existing businesses won't be able to expand into these spaces during a recession. Next to nobody will have the money to buy, renovate, or rezone these places for other purposes.

>> No.18150715

>>18150676
circuit breakers before noon

>> No.18150718

>>18150692
How much would a big mac cost by then? Six gorillion?

>> No.18150719
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>>18150692
700,000 on the Russel 2000! The little guy wins!

>> No.18150721

>>18150620
Yes, it's a good time to buy. Dollar cost average in over several months though. Anyone here telling you with 100% confidence they know the market direction over the next year is a tard or delusional. Averaging in protects you from getting fucked by timing a bit.

Buy 50% into a diversified ETF please so you don't fuck yourself while you learn anon. A NON-leveraged NON-inverse one like SPY.

>> No.18150727

>>18150710
extremely bullish

>> No.18150735

>>18150676
+15% recession cancelled

>> No.18150737
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18150737

is this bullish?

>> No.18150738

>>18150710
>Won't the healthcare industry take a sizable hit in the long term given that these groups comprise the majority of their patients and profits?
This is one of the coldest calculations I have ever seen. The real hit is going to be from loss of doctors, not patients.

>> No.18150745

>>18150676
At least -5%. Otherwise I give up on stocks.

>> No.18150747

>>18150691
Yeah man with unemployment up to a record 3 million, everything shut down, and now a possible full quarantine, it's the perfect time to buy. It's a bull market now bois

>> No.18150754

>>18150737
lol quarantines are legal because of the spanish flu
twitter is full of the biggest brainlets on the planet

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>futures down

>> No.18150768

https://www.strawpoll.me/19640330

>> No.18150770

>>18150710
>What is the fate of surplus commercial real estate?
morgues, funeral homes, and temp hospitals as the virus mutates

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>>18150765

>> No.18150783

>>18150737
Quarantine is pointless now. It's spread everywhere. The shelter in place orders are going to stay regardless in New Jersey and New York. First time I have seen mention of Connecticut.

>> No.18150788

>>18150710
this is a good opportunity to trim the fat, basically. we're going to be getting rid of a lot of luxury shit we really didn't need in the first place that has sorta been leeching off of society all of this time. yeah maybe in the short term businesses can't buy and rezone shit for a new purpose, but they will eventually.

we've basically always been in a recession, and we always come out of them. think about that for a moment. for our entire history as a country. see this and think about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States

we've been around for less than 250 years and we've had 47 recessions, think about that.

>> No.18150797

>>18150768
Quarantine goes into effect= rex
If it doesn't, crab day

>> No.18150798

>>18150747
We've wiped out 40% growth over the past 3 years.
Unironically priced in. People are still shopping, essential businesses are running like usual. Post offices I'm sure are seeing record numbers of packages.
If (big if) it blows over in 2 weeks, we'd be hitting ATH by the end of the year.

>> No.18150804

>>18150783
>pointless
Then why is Italy doing it? Or every other developed nation?

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>>18150544
there was no seasonality for h1n1 too for first summer, then it became seasonal as everything else. it's because people have not build immunity. but research shows that both
temperature and humidity directly negative correlates with covid19 spread. that is why
thailand not that bad hit even tho hygiene levels are not western standards

>> No.18150820

Fuck it, spike the curve so we can all get it over with and be back to business in may

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>>18150806

>> No.18150828

Looks like Seattle/Washington actually has a handle on bat aids. Probably the only state that treated this thing sensibly from the beginning (incidentally they also received the first infection and have a lot of local research into it).

>> No.18150836

>>18150798
What is the virus just gonna up and leave? What do you think will happen?

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>>18150820
That was USA and UK plan I believe. Because you want to have some immunization going on during the first peak to help i

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18150847

Buy TMDX. After the inevitable lockdown is lifted, of course.

>> No.18150859

>>18150847
How’s your coof?

>> No.18150860

>>18150847
fuck off tranny medical corp shill. nobody even cares about organs, they could have the virus.

>> No.18150862

>>18150676
-30%

>> No.18150864

>>18150673
She's a GROSSE GERMANIA meme which is a dog whistle meme for monarchists, nazis, etc. I know she's a WWI loli but she's still used by far-right incels as a fantasy waifu.

>> No.18150865

>>18150847
no, TDOC.

>> No.18150866

>>18150798
I’ll start buying at -55% on account if not bring a dumb nigger like you.

>> No.18150896

>>18150428
Lol, no anon, no we are not. Newyork is literally boots on the ground locked down.

>> No.18150898

>>18150859
I actually feel better, I woke up last night with my sheets drenched but it looks like my fever broke.

>>18150860
It doesn’t exactly work that way but they test ever donor anyway, tripfag mcgee.

>> No.18150913

>>18150827
That's model prediction, NOT OBSERVATIONAL DATA. You shouldn't treat that as anything more than a guess.

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>>18150836
>What is the virus just gonna up and leave? What do you think will happen?
Pretty much. Politicians are beginning to lighten up and joke, the media is slamming Trump like business as usual.
Everyone is getting cabin fever. There'll be a huge rally and push to support small businesses and big business will capitalize on it. The brrrr machines will ensure everything goes back.
Rule number one: It's always a nothing burger

>> No.18150923

chances of Nasdaq going 6666 again?
also, how reliable is this?

https://www.ig.com/en/indices/markets-indices/weekend-wall-street

I mean, does it happen sometimes that they are completely wrong? How often?

>> No.18150926

>>18150864
this sounds increasingly like "everyone right of Obama is Hitler" commie kvetching

>> No.18150927

>>18150738
Think of all those med school loans they won't ever pay back

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>>18150913
never did

>> No.18150933

>>18150864
Are you the tranny everybody talks about? You know this is an anime website, right?

>> No.18150949

>>18150923
IG is basically just betting on how futures will open, futures are basically just betting on how the market will open (yes I know commodity futures are different)

So you're betting on a bet on something nobody can accurately predict

still better than most social sciences

>> No.18150956

>>18150921
>Politicians are beginning to lighten up and joke
Trump has been doing that since January until last week, how did that work out?

>> No.18150961

What is the mark of the beast?

>> No.18150975

>>18150961
yer maw

>> No.18151000

>>18150627
Not an argument

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>>18150932
COVID is going to make this looks like joke.

>> No.18151007

>>18150923
+/- 2% can be considered flat these days

>> No.18151010

>>18151002
50,000,000 deaths in from spanish flu, way smaller population

>> No.18151022

>>18151010
Spanish flu fatality was 3%

>> No.18151028

>>18151000
Sure but it's demonstrably true though. Same thing with bitcoin.

>> No.18151032

>>18150933
No that's RKG and she's rather well liked here.

>> No.18151033

>>18150371
I fucking hope so anon I'm holding 21.75 sqqq I need to drop this bags currently holding 6k worth of it

>> No.18151037

>>18151032
>she's rather well liked here.
no one likes that retarded faggot

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18151046

what should I buy on monday?

>> No.18151047

>>18151010
>The Spanish flu infected 500 million people—about a quarter of the world's population at the time. Estimated up to 50 million deaths
China is going to have 50 million deaths alone.

>> No.18151049

Why is all this disaster so bullish?

>> No.18151051

>>18150721
Thank you fren

>> No.18151054

>>18150676
priced in

>> No.18151059

>>18151046
Sqqq and sdow

>> No.18151065

>>18150721
I'm in this for the long run so even if I lose money now It would still have been better than buying right before the markets started crashing recently right?

>> No.18151073

>>18151047
China has 3000

>> No.18151076

>>18151049
Stock has been a lagging indicator of the economy since the 1980s instead of remotely predictive. Recent money printing (not just the more recent infinite QE) has pumped inflation in the stock market instead of the consumer indices.

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>>18151049
more deaths = more QE

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18151095

This is why shit is fucked.
>2 weeks for symptoms
>while being contagious
>could be up to a MONTH

>> No.18151098

first for Black Sheep

>> No.18151099 [DELETED] 

>>18150437
Could've just used pic related and called it a day kek.

>> No.18151108

>>18151037
lurk moar.

>> No.18151109

>>18151084
All the QE in the world; literally infinite QE cannot give value to an economy where there is no labor.

>> No.18151119

>>18150788
Thats like a recession every 5 years

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>>18151047
>>18150827
How do those other (((models))) play out?

>> No.18151128

>>18151109
It's to assuage boomvestors to prevent a panic.

>> No.18151145

>>18151128
The stocks will still collapse as long as no one is working.

>> No.18151152

>>18151095
That's every contagious disease, fuck head.
You don't pass the street with someone with the flu and immediately have a fever.

>> No.18151153

>>18151127
>climate change charts
>when its about epidemiological studies
What is this boomer logic?

>> No.18151165

>>18151153
Both are cases of bad models that don't accurately reflect reality.

>> No.18151175

>>18151153
>Fear mongering predictions that don't come true

>> No.18151176

>>18151073
read /pol/
new evidence points to 10x of that at least

>> No.18151177

>>18151153
It's /po/ logic. They use falsified data and then run with it. When you point out the faults in their arguments and data they turn to bullshit. Like inventing ever larger conspiracies to explain away these discrepancies.

>> No.18151199

>>18150630
no do not sell now. You will be selling low and buying high

>> No.18151205

>>18151165
>Both are cases of bad models
There is no logic to cherry picking a climate change model from any other scientific model.
Why not a model for rainfall or seismic activity or locust populations? Because there have been pandemic and it means that you can quantify how far off you are. Climate models are based on modeling something that hasn't yet been seen (human pollutants). I don't have stake in either side of climate change but why is that being brought into this?
>>18151177
Makes sense

>> No.18151206

>>18151046
NVDA

>> No.18151211

>>18151176
>/pol/

>> No.18151219

>>18151127
I'd never use any literature models on this pandemic

I'm predicting an Easter Miracle

>> No.18151221

>>18151049
zoom out retard

>> No.18151226

>>18150630
Time average. Buy (or sell) steadily over a period of time. Averages out losses associated with "sell low" and "buy high". It won't be maximum yield but you won't be able to time it anyway. And anyone telling you otherwise is trying to sell you something.

>> No.18151233

>>18151073
The reminder has been masqueraded as meat buns and hotpot ingredients

>> No.18151235
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So how do stocks fare when companies get bailout money but then lay off workers?

>> No.18151243

>>18151235
Free money and fewer expenses = double bull.

>> No.18151248

>>18151235
Stocks go up as the rest of the employees will be happy to keep their jobs and work hard
And free money lol

>> No.18151250

>>18151235
source?

>> No.18151256

>>18151176
First it was 2x, then 10x, then 8 million , and now 21 million. Pick one and stick with it.

>> No.18151259
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>>18151176
>using /pol/ as a source.
>"Listen to actual retards and inbred white supremacists."
>MFW

>> No.18151270

>>18151176
/pol/ is the very definition of an echo chamber
It generates and spits out new false information faster than anything or anyone can combat it

>> No.18151272

>>18151199
can't we have a nicely shaped double dip? followed by a slow recovery of +0.2% per day, so retards like me will have enough time to sort it out

>> No.18151280
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>>18150798
>Blows over in 2 weeks
in two weeks the US will have 10k deaths a day

>> No.18151287

>>18151176
Nigga I think the Chinese are lying too but citing /pol/ is retarded.

>> No.18151294

>>18150827
bssed eastern Germany as safe as or safer then literal deserts

What the fuck is this model doing?

>> No.18151295

>>18151272
no, the recovery is either gonna be violent or we are gonna have a slow bleed downward. Former is more likely. just look at this week

>> No.18151299
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>>18150926
cringe lol
>>18150933
No i'm not a tranny and just because it's anime doesn't mean you have to post lowbrow pics

>> No.18151301

>>18151256
I'm estimating the death toll is going to be somewhere between 1.5 and 10% of infected.
So some average in between is most likely where the USA will land.

It's a wide swing and since we have voluntary quarantine recommendations only infected cases are still aiming for the moon.
If things get bad mandatory shutdowns will come in from the top, for now the current plan seems to be bolster up medical supplies, and wait and see if we can handle the peak or not.

>> No.18151303

>>18151280
And somehow we are in a bull market.
I wish I could understand how it works.
Did Taleb write something about why the stocks go up when disaster strikes?

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>>18151176
So many seething replies. Redditors need to leave.

>> No.18151314

>>18151073
>China has 3000
3000 is the number they approved to count. Those who died without making their way into the counting system are not being counted

>> No.18151318

>>18151235
it really depends
some companies use it as an opportunity to cut the fat, and they lay off people in HR, admin, middle management, project management... people who don't contribute much
other companies leave all their bloat positions untouched, and just lay off a bunch of their rank-and-file employees; the people who actually do the work and make the company money

>> No.18151320

I thought everything would blow over by Easter what happened?

>> No.18151327
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18151327

i'm a long term investor and have most of my money in stocks / buying on the way down. but i did purchase some 4/17 SPY puts in case pic related freaks people out. i dont think it will, since the market already knows this stuff, but if you're a bull and want a hedge, i think this is the way to go.

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18151329

Is this priced in?

>> No.18151338

>>18150806
All influenzas are strongly seasonal, coronaviruses are not strongly seasonal

>> No.18151340

>>18150673
>Isn’t she supposed to be a WWI loli?
The swries is combining WWI and WWII together onto one mega war

>> No.18151342

any big news today or tomorrow? I havent been around to keep up guys.

>> No.18151343

>>18150342
I do not pretend that I know the future, but I can guess in the middle of the day how it will close in the evening with 70% accuracy up or down It is shopping season we all fishing bottom, but our bets strategically based on TA and mathematical probability. algorithms trade with out reading news or emotional blah blah look if you make effort based on imagination then you can imagine your profit too. But what ever you put based on what is in the front of your eyes reality that outcome also will be real. not imaginary .

>> No.18151345

>>18151320
>what happened
Reality happened.

>> No.18151349

>>18151329
Probably.
Since trump said August, it's probably going to stay a bull market till august

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18151355

>>18151342

>> No.18151359

How soon before an option expires can I no longer sell it?

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>>18151280
>My modeling never ends
>We'll have 50 trillion dead next year
Rule number one of happenings. It never happens.

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>>18151073
>china has 3000
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

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>>18151343
>But what ever you put based on what is in the front of your eyes reality that outcome also will be real. not imaginary .
of course... it all makes sense now

>> No.18151368

>/pol/ woke up
Alright, time to do other things
Reminder that the VIX is literally a shitpost futures index so these threads will be comfy again (for longer) when it falls.

>> No.18151372

>>18151342
markets holding and nobody knows shit yet.
corona cases still increasing peak not reached yet.
waiting for reports to drop some hard numbers.

>> No.18151379

>>18150806
Even common cold coronavirus have little seasonality.

>> No.18151380

>>18151355
>>18151342
haha I meant Today or Yesterday. I am not seeing anything major in the news rn.

>> No.18151383

>>18151307
Dude /pol/ is a joke. Whenever a /pol/tard leaves the echo chamber he gets laughed at universally. This thread alone has been cancer because the happeningfags have been coming here.

>> No.18151385

>>18151340
The man literally put his Hearts of Iron campaign into a book

>> No.18151386

>>18150499
You unironically have the best odds of making it out if everyone else here.

>> No.18151396

>>18151368
>Bog Jeep
whatever you do, be careful
don't cross any roads on foot

>> No.18151403

Pedophilic jewish bankers control the markets

>> No.18151407

>>18150389
>I have a Master's in Accountancy with a minor in Finance.
?
A minor is usually just a three to six months course faggot. Not to mention is that everything you posted is barebones finances.

>> No.18151408

>>18151073
Yeah, that's why they're mass purchasing so many urns

>> No.18151409

>>18151355
priced in

>> No.18151416
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>>18151355
Noooo!! Not the friggin kidderino!!!

>> No.18151419

>>18151145
Seemed to stop it all last week except friday

>> No.18151423

>>18150864
>dog whistle meme for monarchists, nazis, etc.
You are an American arent you? Equating monarchists, greater germania and nazis lel

>> No.18151426

>>18151409
What's not priced in?

>> No.18151429

>>18151046
Guns.

>> No.18151433

>>18151426
nigger riots

>> No.18151437

>>18151342

use a news aggregator:

https://spidr.today/?c=us

>> No.18151441

People who say "priced in" have no understanding of finance or economics in general. You cant price in a global pandemic.

>> No.18151450

>>18151327
"Days until pick count" is only accurate if you have an encorceable shutdown like Wuhan. Italy did a half-assed shutdown a month ago and they don't even isolate mild cases so their death count still hasn't peaked.

>> No.18151454

>>18151355
It must kill infants, it's just easy to cover it up as typical infant respiratory distress and no one is going to bother wasting a test on an infant.

>> No.18151456

>>18151433
Priced in the moment NYPD released their case numbers

>> No.18151459

>>18151441
>You cant price in a global pandemic.
why not

>> No.18151463

>>18151441
priced in

>> No.18151464

>>18151152
the flu has an incubation period of approximately 1 to 4 days.

SARS-COV-2 has an incubation period of approximately 2 to 15 days.
The number of asymptomatic COVID-19 carriers is much higher.

>> No.18151468

>>18151433
They still can rob people/live on welfare, why they would riot?

>> No.18151476

do you guys ever feel bad about profiting off of a pandemic like this that is killing thousands of people and wrecking the world economy?

>> No.18151482

>>18151476
lol never.

>> No.18151489

>>18151476
not really this country has been robbing me for years

>> No.18151496

>>18151441
>You cant price in a global pandemic.
so if the market drops 90%, the pandemic isn't priced in? if you say it is, then you're only arguing about the %, like a retard.

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18151499

Everything is literally priced in folks. Buy high quality stocks NOW and you'll be able to get out of your wagie life or boost your NEET life even further.
>t. increased his monthly dividend income by $500 during this nothingburger crash

>> No.18151500

>>18151459
Too many variables at which point it becomes a probablility function that is useless anyway and no objective time horizon. Hell even black scholes is at most only based on the interest which makes pricing puts and calls incredibly difficult let alone a global pandemic on all supply chains and companies dependent on those.

>> No.18151504

>>18151476
Do I feel bad for making the best economic decisions I can make during a disaster that I have no responsibility causing and no ability to prevent? No. Why should I?

>> No.18151507

>>18151476
no, because im not responsible for it and im not worsening it. im just trying to make it as best as possible for myself.

>> No.18151508

>>18151499
based, what did you buy bro?

>> No.18151515

>>18151476
No.

What're the thoughts for Monday boys? I'm holding about 25% cash and am looking to either get in more puts on spy or some individual ticker options. I sold F puts for a profit on Monday before the rise, and am thinking of getting 6/19 puts in the 3.5-4.5 range.

>> No.18151517

>>18151496
>so if the market drops 90%, the pandemic isn't priced in?
Proof it, strawman anon

>> No.18151521

>>18151499
Post portfolio.

>> No.18151522

wtf everyone on investing.com is bearish 24/7

>> No.18151524

the only danger to puts right now is people staying at home

>> No.18151526

can someone explain how SQQQ works? it resets or something? if I buy now and the market tanks further, it'll just go up, right?

>> No.18151528

>>18151499
Wish I bought the dip before I lost so much money trying to squeeze too much money out of puts

>> No.18151531

>>18151526
READ PROSPECTUS

>> No.18151532

>>18151476
That's the system

>> No.18151536

>>18151526
read the prospectus you lazy shit

>> No.18151545

>>18151508
I'm a leaf but mainly these:
PPL (Pembina Pipeline)
SU (Suncor)
POW (Power Corp)
RUS (Russel Metals)
I didn't go all in but I'm green on all of them atm. A lot of these had 'insider purchases' this week as well.

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>>18151360
>low probability events never ever happen ever
We're going to be at 1k/d by monday, we just hit 1k TOTAL this last week, you best start believing in happenings, you're in one

>> No.18151561

Coming soon on markets simulator 2020 edition:
> Martial Law in NYC, spreads to most major cities (very bullish)
> DHS issues new Interstate travel restrictions (bullish)
> Rumors of raider gangs stealing TP and food in some areas (primo bullish)
> Riots in Chicago/LA: refund check delays push people over the edge. (mega bullish)
> Faulty ventilators spread corona to entire hospital wings, thousands infected. (platinum bullish)
> Fed increases emergency injections to 6 trillion per day (markets circuit breaker down for 5 days straight )

>> No.18151564

>>18151522
Never trust them
especially on the natural gas chat, pure cancer

>> No.18151569

>>18151499
>>18151528
and If you're DCA'ing every month you'll never miss the bottom

>> No.18151570

>>18150798
>People are still shopping, essential businesses are running like usual.
This is exactly the reason why the pandemic in Ameroca wouldn't end in two weeks.

>> No.18151572

>>18151500
everyone prices it in differently
the possible events and the uncertainty around these is priced in

you might as well say "you can't price anything in because no one knows the future". The pandemic just increases uncertainty, but it doesn't really change anything on a fundamental level.
If you think the market isn't pricing things in correctly, then you should position yourself in a way to take advantage of that.
But in fact, it is priced in. variables and probability and functions are all abstract; the concept of price is absolute

>> No.18151577

>>18151499
Based divie anon! I started scooping up stuff I had my eye on and DCA on some I already have. It's small change, but I feel much more comfy

>> No.18151580

The US is underestimating the situation severly, at this point they are like Italy a month ago but even more extreme "its just a flu bro" level than the Italians.

The fact that Trump is looking to alleviate measures next week already is fucking insane since it is now kicking into fifth gear.

>> No.18151582

>>18151526

Imagine if you shorted QQQ at 3x leverage. Then every night you reset your position. That's what SQQQ is.

>> No.18151594

>>18151441
>People who say "priced in" have no understanding of finance or economics in general.
thats priced in

>> No.18151596

>>18151561
P R I C E D
N

>> No.18151608

so DCA into SSO right? why do anything else desu

>> No.18151614

>>18151531
>>18151536
>>18151582
well I read the Investopidea article on it and I understand about 40% of what it said, so i'll just be on my way now..

>> No.18151619
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18151619

>imagine shorting the market right now at the bottom

>> No.18151620

>>18151572
>the possible events and the uncertainty around these is priced in
How?

>The pandemic just increases uncertainty, but it doesn't really change anything on a fundamental level.
This is wrong each day the pandemic goes on. Entire supply chains are collapsing, seasonal product are fucked, lay-offs lead to massive brain drain etc
>variables and probability and functions are all abstract; the concept of price is absolute
Price is the output of said functions; it is the most volatile; very far from absolute.

>> No.18151626

>>18151580
>America is doing better than ever. Corona flu is canceled, see everyone back to business in Easter.
>OH SHIT. FORD YOU BETTER PRODUCE 5 BILLION VENTILATORS RIGHT NOW.
Honestly, Is the country a reality television show? We have the perfect host if so.

>> No.18151633

>>18151608
Now? Do you want to lose everything?

>> No.18151634

>>18151561
priced in and potara fusion autonomous ultra instinct levels of bullish

>> No.18151637

>>18151619
>the bottom

>> No.18151638

>>18150389
Thanks for baiting these newfags daily.

>> No.18151648

>>18151619
ill show you a bottom to short

>> No.18151650

>>18151626
Reality show would be a compliment. It's more like a deranged nursing home with brown people as pets.

>> No.18151653

>>18151619

There are tons of great stocks out there available at 50% or more discount and people are just passing them up gambling they're going to get 75%

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>>18151561
kek

>> No.18151657

>>18151614

Its easy. If you buy $1000 of SQQQ for example, if one day QQQ goes down 10%, you make 30%, so you'll have about $1300 of SQQQ. But then it resets. So if the next day QQQ goes back up 10%, you'll lose 30%, so you'll end up with about $910.

>> No.18151661

>>18150449
Who knows were the road goes up or down? only time.
I make my bets on up long term for sure, but tomorrow .... it is not that significant one day I just pay attention when trends change direction from selling to shopping season. Now it is time to get fat on stocks so you have something to sell when it reach is hides. Just in case if end of the world, like always will not happens.

>> No.18151666

>>18151482
>>18151489
>>18151504
>>18151507
you all go to hell

>> No.18151668

>>18151582
So SQQQ is like the bear and bull token of stocks?
Binance just delisted those

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>>18151476

really nigga

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>>18151549
>We're going to be at 1k/d by monday, we just hit 1k TOTAL this last week
Bullshit.
We aren't ballooning from 2K/2 months to 1k/day on Monday.

>> No.18151677

Is DSS gunna moon?

>> No.18151691

>>18151666
>If you secure your own interests you are evil
hahaha. Wrong.

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>>18151572
The market is exceptionally myopic, we were hitting ATHs while China was shutdown, the details of the stimulus were all but concrete last week, but it didn't pump the market until this week etc etc

>> No.18151701

>>18151561
>> Martial Law in NYC, spreads to most major cities (very bullish)
p
>> DHS issues new Interstate travel restrictions (bullish)
r
>> Rumors of raider gangs stealing TP and food in some areas (primo bullish)
i
>> Riots in Chicago/LA: refund check delays push people over the edge. (mega bullish)
c
>> Faulty ventilators spread corona to entire hospital wings, thousands infected. (platinum bullish)
e
>> Fed increases emergency injections to 6 trillion per day (markets circuit breaker down for 5 days straight )
d

in

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18151702

>>18150364

>> No.18151709

>>18150783
One of my coworkers was infected in Boston, kek.

>> No.18151722

>>18151065
If you’re really in it for the long run it doesn’t matter when.

>> No.18151732

>>18150865
>TDOC
That’s a meme that everybody fucking hates and will crater as soon as the virus is over just fyi. It’s a terrible system, I do enjoy watching niggers try to destroy the iPad robots in ERs though kek.

>> No.18151738

>>18151633
markets already tanked 30% lol, everything is on sale

>> No.18151740

>>18151666
typical normie opinion. "uuh guy making money on stocks baaad. OH the new iPhone i have to CONSOOOOM. "
stay poor.

>> No.18151741

>>18151657
>>18151657
thank you, this does make sense, I think. so if the idea is that the market will continue to "crab" it's way down, then QQQ will "crab" it's way down, which means SQQQ will also "crab" accordingly, but in the opposite direction?

better yet, if it's the case that one should hold SQQQ temporarily, how temporarily are we talking? weeks? months? if someone thinks that the market is going to tank for the next 6 - 12 months, do they buy SQQQ NOW and sell in 6 - 12 months, or will your $ in SQQQ not even have necessarily gone up, due to QQQ "crabbing" it's way down as the whole market "crabs" it's way down. feel free to neck me - i hope these questions make sense

>> No.18151751

I am throwing all of my 401K into a leveraged ETF once the market has posted a seemingly consistent recovery from the bottom (+/- 10% sustained climb, lower volatility). Tell me why I'm retarded if I am young and can afford to take a risk on this.

>inb4 generic 'don't hold leveraged ETFs longterm'

>> No.18151754

>>18151037
Correct. Nobody likes that seething tranny

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18151757

>>18150827

>> No.18151763

>>18151661
not betting on a green monday as it's always safe to underestimate the market

>> No.18151765

>>18150783
>It's pointless to limit the spread
Anon, are you a fucking retard? At any given point we are at that is before the peak, decreasing the rate of transmission will decrease the total cases count and reduce the average load on the medical system for any given day.

>> No.18151770

>>18151751
SPXL, to be specific.

>> No.18151782

>>18151757
really only need

#1 international destination from Wuhan was Bangkok

>> No.18151784
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18151784

>>18150798
This is a extinction level event anon.

>> No.18151793

migrate
>>18151710
migrate
>>18151710
migrate
>>18151710

>> No.18151803
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18151803

>>18151757
>Believing in flat earth.
Someone made this map unironically.

>> No.18151805

>>18151738
Volatility kills leveraged etf, at least use some kind of recovery signal.

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4226165-trading-strategy-beat-s-and-p-500-16-percentage-points-per-year-since-1928

>> No.18151807

>>18151095
its a swindle you worry for nothing no one die or get sick more then usual

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>>18151741
dont recommend holding 3x ETFs when volatility is high, because the fund has to pay premiums on the swaps that it uses for leverage, and they will eat at the price. you can see examples of this in this picture showing TQQQ and SQQQ. notice that they are both much lower than where they were 4 months ago

>> No.18151815

>>18151751
>>18151770
if your 20 years from retirement and have significant inlay to your account monthly, then buy and hold 2x ETFs. dont hold 3x long term thats no good, but QLD and SSO have already proven themselves through a recession

>> No.18151819

Friendly reminder that April will be nothing but bad news. The virus is out of control in the US, Trump will have to lock down the entire country, and no one will be out of lock down before May.

I hope you all went short after the rally this past week. Look to hold that short position for about 2-3 more weeks, then cash out your gains, and start to accumulate long positions.

>> No.18151823

>>18151561
Even if all that comes true you are looking at unlimited brrrrrrrrr the FED will keep this market going until the dollars only use is to wipe your ass. Face it we've bottomed out. Calls from here on out plus there talking about 3 more stimulus packages

>> No.18151845

>>18151782
Yet they contained the initial outbreak exceedingly well - it's not after the European clusters did they start to get hit bad. Other SEA countries like Singapore and Indonesia share the same trend.

>> No.18151849

>>18151409
kek

>> No.18151857
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>>18151675
Bro, we hit 400/d YESTERDAY

it's happening, get H Y P E

>> No.18151861

>>18151819
>Friendly reminder that April will be nothing but bad news.
priced in 2x

>> No.18151864

>>18151815
I am a solid 30+ yrs from retirement and am unphased by high risk. Employer matches 7%, I contribute 7% and increase 1% each time I get a raise (usually yearly).

>> No.18151878

>>18151476
I don't make the rules

>> No.18151893

>>18151819
and then the FED stepped in and announced another measure and another stimulus package announce by the senate...you are gambling sir

we are on the edge to hyperinflation and you think this event has anything to do with the outcome of the stock market? jesus...

>> No.18151899

>>18151355
>wrex.com

>> No.18151912

>>18151819
There have been several studies that show this is going to peak in early april and be over by May. Optimism will drive the market up

>> No.18151930

>>18151407
Never reply to a post over three lines without looking for it on archives.

>> No.18151938

>>18150961
Either id2020 or xrp.

Screencap this.

>> No.18151941

>>18151819
I'd call this a solid take but 3 weeks is a long time. Not seeing any sad stories on the media yet about entire families wiped out by corona, that'd be a short term bottom IMO. Long term we're utterly fucked but the world is stuck with USD reserve currency, so who knows what kind of magic they pull off. One dollar = One dollar, stupid as it is. Literally dogecoin levels of monetary policy at this point.
>>18151823
I don't even know if i'm joking, clown world is just like that now. I fully expect civil unrest if nothing else- too many people not working, and gibs checks *always* get fucked up some how.

>> No.18151960

>>18151666
Satanic confirmation.

>> No.18151978

>>18151893
>hyperinflation
jesus christ

>>18151912
>be over by May
lmao

>> No.18151981

>>18151857
>Total confirmed 116.505
>Total deaths 1.925
Shit just got real WAY too fast

>> No.18152046

>>18151819
Yeah we all know this is going to at least test 220 again, dont jerk yourself off about it, I would've put all in on puts but needed the money for rent and food so put it into bank, I got my 220 put and a TLT 205 for August and I will at least rescue my account with it and possibly hopefully make a 1000% gain and keep daytrading if it works out

>> No.18152062

The virus will probably tear through the population and burn itself out by June.

>> No.18152112

>>18151032
That weirdo? It's probably some weeb acting like he's a girl. I find him annoying.

>> No.18152187

>>18151032
>she

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>>18150371
Fucking please let this happen I sunk 40k into SPY puts on Friday. Give me a sign kek

>> No.18153212

>>18153131
>waited til Friday to buy puts
I hope you at least bought right before the dip when things got highest.

>> No.18153216

>>18151751
Just buy long expiry calls or go long with margin via spreadbets instead. You will get more bang for your buck than a 3x ETF if you're bullish. And other anons are right to point out that even with low volatility they will still perform poorly over a long period

>> No.18153276

>>18151811
This has less to do with the premiums and more to Do with the nature of leveraged products that lose value on drop downs and fail less on upswings

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>>18153212
Well I had already cashed in the puts I bought on delta Airlines, American, mgm and carnival that I bought in mid February the week before, and then saw the dead cat bounce as a potential way to buy some more puts for cheap so decided to just short markets in general this time

I started buying them on Thursday and finished on Friday about an hour before close