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>> No.17995267
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RED MONDAY ITS COMING

>> No.17995284
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What should I buy with 20$ or has shit not gotten that bad yet?

>> No.17995288

Tsla will hit 100 within 30 days from now.

>> No.17995289

god damn it someone answer me. someone posted about this trading strategy consisting of 60% TQQQ or UPRO and 40% of TMF creating a balanced portfolio. My question is, how will it perform during market recovery? Will the goverment % on bonds potentially fuck it up?

>> No.17995290

Lost $8000 trading options like a moron last year. Loaded up again last week and put $1000 on SPY and NVDA puts on Friday at 3:45 expiring 3/27. What’s the chance Monday is red so I can make some money

>> No.17995291
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>>17995267
Delicious steak.

>> No.17995293
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17995293

>held all bags all the way down
Heh, nothin personnel me

>> No.17995295

>>17995238
Thread Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3fRBzRngdc

>> No.17995303
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all this red is so tiring, i want to be able to trade under normal conditions, not when things go severely in one direction

>> No.17995313

>>17995290
100% red

>> No.17995316

why didn't i buy calls? too expensive to buy puts... might have to go with leap calls

>> No.17995326

>>17995290
If monday isn't red, there is some serious bullshittery going on

>> No.17995334

>>17995316
puts********** why didn't i buy puts? too expensive to buy puts now... might have to go with leap calls

>> No.17995338

Y'all buy AMC?

>> No.17995340
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17995340

What are your moves on Monday bois?

>> No.17995341

>>17995284
das hot. sauce?

>> No.17995347

>>17995238
how do i get approved for options on charles shwab?

>> No.17995349

>>17995340
Oil

>> No.17995353

>>17995341
Tell what you bought and I'll give it

>> No.17995356
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niggers tongue my anus

>> No.17995366

Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 7 rolls per day. If you have a family of 13, that's over 694 rolls a week. Over 2580 a month. TP will be worth its weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.

>> No.17995370

>>17995340
Getting rid of my SPY puts that expire on the 27th, I think we're near the bottom.

>> No.17995371

>>17995284
Ah shit.
I forgot to buy that 20kg onahole. With the way they’re going to regulate oversees shipments after this, It’s hopeless now.

>> No.17995374

>half the US / EU economies shutting down
>infection growth rates continuing to rise
>record unemployment claims expected

What awaits us in the week ahead, boys?

>> No.17995377

>>17995353
nothing. i'll probably start buying in april

>> No.17995381

so how much bullshit is going on to get more stimulus and fed money vs what is reality like?

How many hedge fund billionaires are going to cry on cnbc to get negative interest rates? I know some emotion is real but the amount of bullshit going on is incredible.

>> No.17995385

>>17995366
>7 rolls per day

So I'm not the only one with a mummy fetish?

>> No.17995400
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>>17995293

>can only do DSPPs to bypass finra rules
>down like 30-40% of initial total because they're a bitch to sell

Looks like I'm holding these things until they go back up or the companies go bankrupt.

>> No.17995402

>>17995349
Long or short on oil? You think it'll dump hard again?

>> No.17995412

>>17995402
long term oil is going back to 40 maybe even 50, however when the saudis/russians are going to fuck off I have no idea

>> No.17995422

>>17995374
We’ve probably priced in a great deal of this, and hopes of a bailout have been dashed. People think they’re going to allow Lehman’s to fall before they kiss and makeup or something.

If Mnuchin pulls a Christmas miracle and gets shit shit to happen Monday... expect a mammoth shortsqueeze and much liquidation and forced buying.

Gold will get even cheaper as they have to short to raise money! And the brrrrrr faggots will say “my dollars are worthless now” not even realizing how much relative deflation occurred....

Worth buying a KO call to hedge against my shorts probably... maybe some BRKB before their value surges with the dollar deflation.

>> No.17995435

To those saying let's just let the virus kill all boomers - you do realize that will make US a non-white and leftist country overnight?

>> No.17995448

>>17995422
I'm guessing it passes. Dems are going to use the coronavirus response quotes which Trump already made in February for the election.

>> No.17995464

Some of todays market wisdom. Ignore at your own risk of loss.
Honestly, I expect the S&P to try to stabilize around 2300; if it does, it could bounce up to 2650-2800. But if it breaks below 2300 decisively, there is no meaningful support until 2000-2100. Even then, the market might not hold there, given the dismal action in bank stocks. I would not look for a meaningful bottom to occur until the number of stocks making new lows shrinks, and more stocks begin to trade above their moving averages at various time periods.
With 10-year Treasury yields bottoming and the Treasury yield curve steepening, bank stocks should have gotten a lift. Instead, monthly charts of the group’s benchmarks, such as the KBW Bank Index, have broken down from a nine-year trading range. That tells me we’re going to see big loan losses, which makes sense, given the devastation we have seen across the economy.
During the secular bull markets of the 1950s, ’60s, ’80s, ’90s, and 2010s, market-cycle lows often developed around their 200-week MAs. For instance,the 1957-’62 market cycle—which also saw a near-30% decline in the S&P 500, or a 62% retracement of the prior bull market, and a drop below the index’s then-200-week MA. We have to respect the market’s recent break below its 200-week moving average, but the precedent for a recovery is there if you look at 1962 and other cycles.
Keep in mind too that the biggest factors too will be based around credit lines to individual companies and the injection of liquidity. Monday is going to be red and even with this pandemic we won't see sub 800. But Complete zero? unlikely. 800 is the absolute worst case scenario based on ALL analysis.

>> No.17995469

>>17995435
USA barely did shit to contain it behavior-wise or mask wise. Even with our terrible response it's at 300 dead right now.

The figures of a million dying from this are very speculative imo, and extremely unlikely.

>> No.17995472

>>17995316
buy on vol crush

>> No.17995483

>>17995464
>stabilize around 2300
Stopped reading.

>> No.17995485

>https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/need-for-nurses-leads-gov-greg-abbott-to-waive-regulations/

>The governor’s action allows retired nurses to reactivate their licenses. He ordered the state to allow temporary permit extensions to graduate nurses and graduate vocational nurses who have not yet taken a licensing exam. The state will also allow students in their final year of nursing school to exceed the current limit on simulated experiences to meet their clinical objectives.

>“In the coming weeks and months, Texas will continue to see a growing need for medical professionals to help us respond to these unique and challenging times,” Abbott said in the release. “With these actions, Texas is taking an important step to meet that need."

>> No.17995489

i might actually get into stocks once things stabilize in a few months. what index has all the big military contractors on it

>> No.17995490

>>17995464
>it could bounce up to 2650-2800
It won't bullcuck, stop deluding yourself. Not even going to bother rest of your copypasta because you have to legitimately braindamaged to think we're at the floor.

>> No.17995497

So bullshit aside I'm currently set up with a few strategies for monday.
Sunday night will be when I refine my monday strategy a little bit more based on how futures will move. But I'm placing myself for a few more puts.It's entirely possible that they will skyrocket during the morning trading as it's been a major search term from friday afternoon to saturday morning.
I'm expecting that as a result SPY puts will moon during the morning trading and then trail off as the lunch hours cause trading to tail off before a selloff happens. Once the afternoon bids are placed by 1pm we will likely see a circuit breaker.
Going into tuesday we might get a rally to 220 from 215. At which point I would begin exiting my positions as this is a good indication of a bear trap. Then go full autist as the slump picks back up.
The real question will be the passage of the house and senate bill. That will give a little potential relief to the markets but if they wait until Friday to pass it then it will vanish in the wave of fear from the unemployment report from thursday.
Coming up on the 23rd though the result of the earnings reports, the news over the weekend, the russian saudi oil war and performance of asian and euro markets may very well cause a 3000 point drop in the DOW.
So While that may be my most profitable day ever, I think the entire week is reasonably in play.

>> No.17995508

>>17995422
I think Apple's cash on hand is undervalued. They've got $260B or so. They could go on a buying spree, or sit on the appreciating cash, either way they're in a great position. At $220 for the stock you might as well be getting the entire consumer business for free.

>> No.17995521

>>17995485
This is such a bad idea though. Why would you want to put old retired healthcare workers on the front line, unless they somehow separated them out to non-coronavirus areas.

It makes more sense to move young healthcare workers to the hardest hit areas at the time.

>> No.17995533

>>17995485
like maybe set them up to do tele-health work instead of front lines?

>> No.17995549

>>17995490
That's not my analysis. That's a firm reasonable action that could happen based on a few factors. But that's not something you really need to understand I guess. It'd help you out a bit to understand what the analysis is saying.

>> No.17995561

>>17995464
So this............ is the power............. of a indices trader............. whoa....................

>> No.17995597

>>17995561
.....do you not do any kind of research before putting your money in?

>> No.17995617

TRUMP DID NOT CUT FUNDING FOR THE CDC
HE DID NOT CALL THE CHINESE VIRUS A HOAX
HE DID NOT SILENCE SCIENTISTS.

DON'T LET SHILLS WARP THESE THREADS

KAG

>> No.17995635

>>17995464
Lol 2300, just you wait until shit REALLY hits the fan and all major centers are on complete lockdowns and mass unemployment takes hold

>> No.17995649

>>17995521
>>17995533
From what I can gather the rest of the article goes on to say:
>The order comes two days after Gov. Abbott issued a series of executive orders to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 in Texas. In a virtual town hall broadcast Thursday on Nexstar Media Group stations across Texas, the Governor warned that “tens of thousands” of Texans could test positive for COVID-19 in the next two weeks.
So while I wouldn't doubt that they'd use some sort of telephone line for the retired nurses, I would assume they're using the younger nurses fresh out of school in hospitals.

>> No.17995658

>>17995597
Nigger stop acting like market acts reasonable and predictable. If it did, we wouldn't have crashes.

>> No.17995659

>>17995635
honestly so far i have seen nothing but benefit

>> No.17995668

>>17995617
I was skeptical, but the all caps must make it true.

>> No.17995669

>>17995353
DIS and KO to start

>> No.17995670

>>17995617
>Trump didn't call the coronavirus a hoax.
You absolute imbecile.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721
>Trump did not cut funding for the cdc.
He certainly proposed it
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/488521-trump-reverses-on-request-to-cut-cdc-niaid-funding
>He didn't silence scientists.
Yeah, Pence did.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/02/mike-pence-coronavirus-gag-rule
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/sep/17/whistleblowers-scientists-climate-crisis-trump-administration
https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/02/03/trump-climate-change-environment-policy
This is not a fucking pol thread you absolute moron.

>> No.17995672

>>17995635
S&P is going to lag behind actual events, DOW is going to be first index affected. Once DOW eats shit, you can be sure S&P will follow in just a moment. Watch S&P in a month or three when unemployment numbers start rolling in and people run out of money to spend.

>> No.17995692

>>17995658
......You know what?
You go ahead and put all your money in. I'll happily take it. There are predictable movements if you actually understand what the fuck is going on. You can make trades based entirely on news and press conferences as well as jobs reports, financials, and moodys ratings

>> No.17995695

>>17995670
don't respond to that guy. he's either in the cult of trump or trolling our balls off.

>> No.17995711

>>17995695
I assume he wandered over from /pol/
In fact, I'd say a fair few have.

>> No.17995718
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>>17995692
Already did, bullcuck. You'll be seething when we go down another 1k on monday.

>> No.17995721

We're getting some numbers about unemployment on Thursday, it's gonna be a blood bath

>> No.17995727
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>>17995721
>Thursday, the day before friday
Oh fuck.

>> No.17995730
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>>17995370
>Getting rid of SPY puts before the underestimated unemployment cases come out on Thursday
Anon just sell and buy another week out puts

>> No.17995738

>>17995670
I do appreciate your actual references kek
yes many polcücks... very sad

>> No.17995752
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>https://twitter.com/VitalistInt/status/1241499035200077826?s=20

>We have already been training for this moment, because skills don’t develop overnight. Without #5Demands, this will be all of us [credit to @indeclineofficial on instagram]
Looting at the Whole Foods. Also, when they're talking about "#5Demands" it looks like they're referring to pic related.

>> No.17995754

>>17995284
Sauce?

>> No.17995758

>>17995288
>100
Still overvalued

>> No.17995768

odd - fap
even - don't fap

>> No.17995777

>>17995288
I'd sell everything and buy tsla stock at 150

>> No.17995793

>>17995718
....Do you honestly think that I'm making a bull forecast and basing buys on being bullish?
Like, hell, I know you /pol/tards are stupid but to lack reading comprehension this badly? I'm a bit concerned.

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>>17995752
>free the prisoners
kek must be a bobo

>> No.17995813
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>>17995670
Schlomo

>> No.17995816

>>17995752
The Five:
Fuck
Me
Harder
Daddy
Please

>> No.17995829

>>17995464
You sound like you know what you’re talking about. How can I be AS knowledgeable about market trends as you sound?

>> No.17995840

>>17995711
people trying to keep the recession from happening by telling everyone that the virus isn't a big deal

>> No.17995852

Help my understand the trillion government money stimulus. Does this mean they bought a trillion worth of stock that they are going to eventually take profit on?

>> No.17995862

>>17995284
Coffee

>> No.17995863

>>17995813
The point of contention was that under trump the cdcs allocation was shifted away from pandemic response. Hell every source even the cdc acknowledges this.

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>>17995284
>>17995341
>>17995754
AAAAAAAAA OOOOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M - I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>> No.17995869

>>17995852
It means Israel is saved.

>> No.17995879

>>17995752
Wow that got real retarded real fast on those last two.

>> No.17995890

>>17995829
Just read.
Go to investopedia and begin reading. If you want to understand forex start with babypips. On top of that pick up some textbooks such as securities analysis and the likes. I'm not great. And I'm not making a call or prediction of anything beyond next week. It'll be chaotic but it's a good idea not to hold onto your puts during the green days like on tuesday.

>> No.17995894
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Is this bullish?

>> No.17995897
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>>17995852

This gif should explain anything the government is doing.

>> No.17995902

>>17995852
no.
it isn't even decided yet. corporate bonds are possiblue... you need to do more research. watch some good videos on finance

>> No.17995909

>>17995752
Hang them.

>> No.17995923

>>17995852
They take peoples future taxes and pay them back to them now.

>> No.17995924 [DELETED] 

>imagine not being part of the /biz/ discord

discord gg 2e5Dhhs

Join so we can suffer together on red Monday

>> No.17995957

daily fuck planet fitness

>> No.17995963

>>17995924
kill urself my man

>> No.17995969

>>17995890
Ok genius.

Then tell me why FLIR industries was one of the biggest losers Friday in spite of having excellent fundamentals, solid government contracts, virtually no odds of distress, and products which could help with corona?

Buy or strong buys from all analysts, yet the market was totally retarded.

>> No.17995979

>>17995969
FLIR systems*

>> No.17996035

>>17995969
.....You realize that orders have been cancelled right? Like, the majority of their product is tied to construction and the likes and all of those have been cancelled due to coronavirus.
If you don't have any product to move then your valuation goes down and it reflects in the stock prices.

>> No.17996049
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Will red monday on DJ fall -1500 after the suprise lockdowns of the weekend?

>> No.17996052

>>17995617
Nah, Trump did fuck up but I don't think the majority will blame him as long as he fights as hard as he can now. The problem (that is now too late to even talk about because everyone would just deny it), could he have taken extreme measures early on without democrats and republicans opposing it? I doubt it. Some democrats are actively bragging about what they said and shit but it's easy to say that after it all happened, if Trump were to propose some heavy measures last month for example (that would most likely lead to dire economic consequences).. would democrats have supported it? Nah, they would most likely just claim that he wants it to pass so he can keep immigrants away or some shit. Even Bernie that is holding his livestream talkshows of how he would have handled it perfectly said earlier this month that he wouldn't have closed the US borders.
One thing, election year. This blame game happening is just politics, what matters is how its handled now. People forget things extremely fast and if Trump manages to get it under control by summer and gets the economy in recovery-mode he will probably get more praise than blame for it.

>> No.17996078

>>17996049
>surprise lockdowns
If litterally everyone here predicted there would be lockdowns, and people in new york were begging on twitter for their city and state to be shutdown, how do you think any of this is surprise?

>> No.17996085

I cannot wait to see sub 18k DOW and more importantly, Bill "THE ETERNAL BOOMER" mitchel break down.

>> No.17996094

>>17996052
>Throwing around $5-10k in trades
>Barely making $100 a day
How the fuck are people doing this for a living when the market isn't shitting itself?

>> No.17996107

>>17996085
bro he's a paid shill.
he's not going to break down, he has no emotional involvement beyone the paycheck

>> No.17996123

>>17996035
True of everyone. But they have more military contracts than most with smaller civi exposure, that's safe, and financials are rock solid, also safe. This is not a casino, shale oil, hotel chain, or air line which should be at the bottom.

Yet they are tanking more than competitors with awful alt z scores, and nearly more than anyone.

>> No.17996127

>>17996078
Because the Mayor is doing literally everything in his power to prevent a lockdown, and in 2-3 weeks when the hospitals are overflowing he'll have to do something. The more he puts it off the worse it's gunna get and theres no telling how bad it's going to get. Keep in mind a lot people unironically still believe "it's just a flu, bro"

>> No.17996131

Who UUP here?

>> No.17996138

>>17996123
Well not so much. If you look at general dynamics they are down 37% and their civi sector is ridiculously small. What exacerbates the whole thing is that a bulk of stocks tend to be held by brokerages who are exiting at the moment to protect their revenue and investment capital.

>> No.17996143

When is this gonna end guys

>> No.17996164

>>17996085
It will probably be good for him though, considering he got another reason to cry out for donations

>> No.17996170

>>17995340

Hoping for green, there’s a ton of talk about a cure that works

I just bought 50 shares of Nike at 66$

If it goes red then I’m might just wait to almost market close to buy some stock like Lockheed, Microsoft, etc

>> No.17996200

>>17995340
Sell out my TVIX when the market opens unless it's dumping and then when the dumps stop sell. Then wait for the inevitable pump that's coming this week and go all in on SQQQ and TVIX

>> No.17996209

>>17995267
I've heard the quarantine will be announced tomorrow, if that's true we'll have the bloodiest monday of all time. Especially with the big dick news about congresspeople selling finally reaching your average boomer investor.

>> No.17996210
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What do you call this type of chart formation?

>> No.17996212

>>17996138
FLIR probability of bankruptcy
https://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/FLIR--Probability-Of-Bankruptcy
less than 1%

https://www.macroaxis.com/invest/ratio/GD--Probability-Of-Bankruptcy
less than or equal to 35%

Literally makes no sense

>> No.17996219 [DELETED] 

>red Monday may be the worst day we’ve seen yet

We’re gonna freak bros


discord gg 2e5Dhhs

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>>17996210
Are the dead counted as unemployed?

>> No.17996261

>>17996209

The big dick congresspeople sold before the 30% dip. Warren Buffet made an SEC filing recently indicating he was buying big, so the mindless masses might follow him.

>> No.17996263

>>17996212
I'm with you on this, GD is in a much worse position but most military hasnt been too great, like DFEN, NOC, LMT ect.
still those are the ones I want ot go long on

>> No.17996278

>>17996219
stop shilling your fagscord nigger or I'll spam it with guro

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>>17996143
pencil it in for summer. I am leaning towards a solid rebound at some point in to one more leg down to set the final low. That's not based on anything other than guess though. Near term key catalysts are:
Indefinite term:
>partial oil truce is reached causing oil to spike in price temporarily. This will buoy the markets a bit... temporarily.
Semi near term:
>Corona virus numbers plateau then taper off. Around this point all the stimulus will have a demonstrable effect on markets and big money starts tentatively entering back in long
a bit longer term
>countries lift quarantine measures and industry ramps back up

>> No.17996284

>>17995497
>bullish
Your fucking retarded
>Giuseppe Conte has just announced the total shutdown of the Italian economy. The only things that can remain open are those that support crucial food supply, banking and transport.

This is going to be all over Europe and soon many states of the US this is on par with the Great Depression. People still aren’t panicking in the US. Stocks will lose another 30% in the next month and very slow growth as the economy adapts to these measures that will be in place for 18 months of some sort. International and national trade and travel is dead/going to be dead
This is going to be a shit show and your a complete dumbass if you think anything good is going to come of this
>just da flu bro
It has a 9% death rate in Italy and 4% CFR in South Korea
10% of those with heart problems (120 million Americans) will die. That’s 12 million. From that. People with chronic lung problems are around 20 million and 6% of those will die.
Senators with insider info sold all of their stock

If you think this scenario is going to be over in a week your fucking retarded. It will take 1-2 months to stop exponential growth and another 10-16 months of restrictions until a vaccine is developed.

This will fundamentally change the way our culture, economy and world works. The era of free movement is gone

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>>17995326
>If monday isn't red, there is some serious bullshittery going on

Like what?

>> No.17996323

>>17996286
Like this >>17996261
Also a fuckton of people have puts, which they wont sell unless the prices go lower. It makes it easy for market makers to push the price up.

>> No.17996324

>>17996212
From the website:
Probability of Bankruptcy SHOULD NOT be confused with the actual chance of a company to file for chapter 7, 11, 12 or 13 bankruptcy protection. Macroaxis simply defines Financial Distress as an operational condition where a company is having difficulty to meet its current financial obligations towards its creditors or to deliver on the expectations of its investors. Macroaxis derives these conditions on a daily bases from both public financial statements as well as analysis of stock prices reacting to market conditions or economic downturns including short term and long term historical volatility. Other factors taken into account include analysis of liquidity, revenues patterns, R&D expenses, and commitments, as well as public headlines and social sentiment.

Further, just because some random site says that, does not mean it's true. The big factor here is how the company is leveraged in an industry. Further keep in mind that the probability is probability of financial distress. This is based on their utilization of credit as compared to their straight revenue streams. It doesn't make sense to you because, as pointed out earlier, you're not analyzing companies.
FLIR, for instance, manufactures specialty sensors that go into multimeters and the likes. Under the current environment with no future sales likely, what good is that if nobody is buying multimeters and the likes?

You need to actually read that website before using it as a reference. FLIR isn't leveraged into credit much at the moment because they have cash reserves to last 6 to 8 months at current spending levels but they thrive based upon contracts for products from various firms who all got shuttered and are taking an even bigger hit.

>> No.17996327

>>17996280
Good luck with that oil truce. nobody is going to agree to anything until they know for sure where they'll be. Which means after the virus is over.

>> No.17996351

>>17996327
>Which means after the virus is over.
Depends but yeah. I put that as indefinite term for this reason. There is potential for war over this in the middle east.

>> No.17996367

>>17996284
I never once said I was bullish. I said "So bullshit aside" As in jokes and memes aside.

Seriously you wrote all this because of bad reading comprehension. I never ONCE said I felt bullish about ANYTHING.

JFC

>> No.17996374

>>17996263

Something is very fishy. Usually every stock that hits the bottom or second bottom for the day gets an article explaining, usually 20 or so. There is literally nothing on this, not even some shitty blog, not even a paragraph, and it's completely inexplicable to a casual observer, great meat for an article.

Something so retarded warrents caution though, so I'm not touching it. Don't want to sit down at some weird rigged promo version of blackjack in the casino even if it promises huge jackpots, I'll stick to the games I know.

>> No.17996391
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17996391

PRESS S TO SPIT ON GRAVE

S

>> No.17996395

>>17996367
>I never ONCE said I felt bullish about ANYTHING.
I dont have to SAY I hate jews to be outed as an anti-semite
just like you dont have to SAY you feel bullish to be outed as a bull.

>> No.17996398

>>17995370
>near bottom
>velocity of selling WORSE than the great depression
> Giuseppe Conte has just announced the total shutdown of the Italian economy. The only things that can remain open are those that support crucial food supply, banking and transport.

This will be all european countries and some US states for 1-2 months and additional movements restrictions for 10-16 months until a vaccine is found.
I don’t think you quite understand how bad this is.
>muh flu
The flu death rate is around 0.01-0.08%
The death rate for this is 1% if your healthy, that’s over 100x as deadily
If you have heart issues, it’s 10%, and around 120 million Americans have significant heart disease. That’s 12 million, WITH good health care and no surge
South Korean death rate is now 4.4%.
Buy all shorts and hold for 1-2 weeks. Most likely we will see additional 20-40% losses from the peak

>> No.17996409
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17996409

>>17996327
Nah they'll probably stop once every small shale company is bankrupt

>>17996127
People who think that are not the wealthy managers of substantial capital.

>>17996210
I call it: the conference call that crashed the market last week
The danger for short positions... if the numbers are much less, if trump can cook the books (didn't he try to get the states not to use numbers and just say "a lot?")

What happens if they're just 1.5 Mil?

>>17996263
>>17996374

I dumped LMT.

The market thinks that IF a Dem gets in, no matter what the reality is, that spending won't increase as much as has been predicted under trump.

Trump was a shoe in. Now things are looking grim for him.

How much luck is he going to have now, getting India to buy loads of Sikorsky helicopters? Under a global economic depression? How many governments are going to be ordering F-35s? How many employees are even going to want to assemble the hardware? Japan shut down assembly, tukey has been closed for ages...

>> No.17996412
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17996412

>>17996323
>It makes it easy for market makers to push the price up.

That sounds like a bulltrap....

>> No.17996417

>>17996391
S
I remember when I turned in 12 games that weren't damaged and all I got was $9 total.

>> No.17996425

>>17996324
I am not saying they shouldn't be down. My point is that them being the absolute worst performing on Friday with no explanation from anyone, not even some gay blogger, is irrational.

This is an event driven recession and there has been no news to justify that kind of sudden drop Friday.

>> No.17996447

>>17996412
Yeah. I really think there's a bulltrap coming. Way too many people are shorting for the market to not be manipulated.

>> No.17996448

>>17996409
>Now things are looking grim for him.
Didn't his approval rating skyrocket since corona?

>> No.17996449

>>17996409
>What happens if they're just 1.5 Mil?
anything above 2008's peak is still extremely bad news, imo

>> No.17996480

>>17996284
let me back this up. there is no "cure" you guys are thinking vaccine and the top dr in usa right now say 12 to 18 months. there is only containment and USA faggotry has made it close to impossible. you guys are fucked beyond measure. the same people saying "this is the bottom fixed in a few weeks" are the same peope that said "just a flu bro" for last few months.

>> No.17996482

>>17996395
....Did you even read my fucking comment there?
Saying that there will be a day of stocks going up before slumping again is NOT being bullish. It's saying based upon the actions we've seen it'll essentially be a fucking crab walk for a few days.
Also, we know you're an anti semite. Hell given how you're a fucking poltard with an egregious lack of reading comprehension it's almost a fucking given.

>> No.17996502

>>17996425

Someone (maybe even they themselves) held a large bit of their stock and needed the money. What else is there to say?

>> No.17996505

>>17996425
Flir performed badly but it was nowhere near the fucking worst performing. Where the hell did you even pull that out?
|Hell, based upon the market performance for markets actually tracked on the dow and S&P FLIR didn't even rate as a worst performing stock.

>> No.17996508

>>17996049
We will find out when futures open 6pm et but i think we could limit down possibly within first couple minutes of trading.

>> No.17996531
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17996531

Someone dropped quintuple sixes on /pol/.

Mondays gonna be fun.

>> No.17996558

>>17996280
I think there will be a bounce soon too. Hoping my puts dont get caught. Might ease back later in this week to watch for it.

>> No.17996561

>>17996448
I don't know nor do I care.
He was almost guaranteed reelection.

Now, if there are millions dead and loads of unemployed, bankruptcies, people losing their homes. Well things are suddenly looking uncertain.


>>17996480
Fauci is refusing to have any optimism and I love it because we need to be prepared. That said, we could definitely recklessly fast-track some shit.
Trump loves false hope. I'm hoping he starts talking about regeneron again.

>> No.17996571

>>17996508

I hope so, but I've been waiting for a happening my whole life and been blue-balled too many times to count, so something tells me the bailouts will work, the market will stabilize, the virus will be nothing more than the flu and everything will go back to "normal", that is to say back to clownworld with mass immigration and a slow whittling away of our standard of living and rights.

>> No.17996576

>>17996505
https://www.marketwatch.com/
check market movers

>> No.17996584

We're looking at recovery time of ten years bare minimum, probably looking at 300-400 years in reality
Dow sub 100, toilet paper will be worth more than actual 100 dollar bills, saudi/chinese cryptojew hegemony with russia as trained dog, africa in shambles (rhodesia reborn from the ashes), india colonizing Mars, bitcoin long forgotten but link now defacto currency of the world gov, third ingredient in mountain dew might shock you, gays allowed to marry in all white countries, abortion legal for all non muslims.
You think this sounds bad? Buckle up because that's just the next ten years bud

>> No.17996602

I miss Pendulum

>> No.17996613
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17996613

Bros I'm really drunk and my literal fag twink roommate is making me want to knock on his door and ask him if I have a big dick. would i regret it?

also should i buy a lomg SPY put?

>> No.17996624

>>17996576
Yep not on the list.
Got a specific link?

>> No.17996631

>>17996613
do ti and post results

>> No.17996633

>>17996584
that's fine man I'll buy the dip and hold for 300-400 years then

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Shout out to Reluktant, I take back everything I said about you for at least 30 days #blacksheep

>> No.17996643
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17996643

How do I buy calls on the virus? Also here's a pic of the recovered/death ratio in the US. Enjoy!

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>>17996613

>> No.17996647

>>17996571
>everything will go back to "normal"
That was my first inital reaction. Didnt pay attention to corona much. Then when everything sort of hit that panic moment a few weeks ago i was like oh fug this might be the big one. We shall see anon. Definitely interesting times we live in.

>> No.17996650

>>17996602
same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnjI0DKf7us

>> No.17996652
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17996652

held sqqq and uvxy over the weekend, what you guys expecting for monday?

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>>17996631
he's an actual flaming fag, he wears crop tops and sometimes even makeup. i just have the sudden urge to force my johnson in his mouth

>> No.17996667

>>17996613
>would i regret it?
yea prolly
or/and not

schroedingers faggot

>> No.17996670

>>17996660
it only works if you actually are packing

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17996675

>>17996660
>/biz/ - Business & Finance

>> No.17996679

>>17995284
God I fucking hate women

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>>17996635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxYY3KuNVIU

>> No.17996685

>>17996652
I'm holding TVIX. I am expecting it to dump on open and then pump. If it starts pumping right out the gate I'm cutting my losses. There's going to be a bull trap next week with how many puts were thrown onto the market last minute.

>> No.17996693

>>17996670
you just want pics of his dick

im onto you faggot

>> No.17996708
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17996708

Anyways here's the comparison between FLIR and GD to understand why the two wind up rated differently.
And why FLIR gets a higher risk in the market. To say nothing of its exposure industry wise.

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>>17996675

>> No.17996718

>happening happening
>haven't purchased a gun
Fug. Im not gonna survive

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>>17996635
what a good turn movee nite took, was worried we were fugged at the beginning
>>17996660
do it honestly

>> No.17996735

>>17996685
>If it starts pumping right out the gate I'm cutting my losses
see its that attitude that makes me think stephen is finna give you the MNUCH come monday morning

>> No.17996767

Will I regret buying WTRH $1 calls?

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17996770

>>17996660
>he's dick deep in his roommate's throat right now

>> No.17996772

>>17996720
i <3 BR subtitles
t. favelado

>> No.17996791
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17996791

Here's the financials

>> No.17996795

>>17996772
Oh I didn't even know! I usually just go with whatever subs the pirate movie has, we got lucky

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17996808

I would expect a monday dump, i'm hoping for one at least, ill say that. A big one. It just seems like the news isnt getting any better, cities are locking down and cases are piling up. Why and how far can stocks rebound at this point.

>> No.17996813

>>17995464
>chooses a round number for a bottom
yeah you could just save us all some time and admit you're just doing TA astrology

>> No.17996821

>>17996613
>Bros I'm really drunk and my literal fag twink roommate is making me want to knock on his door and ask him if I have a big dick. would i regret it?

Depends. Got a girlfriend or do you really care about your hetero-normative reputation? Dicked down a twink before and it stank but felt good. Then he wanted to be gay around me all the time and setting things straight and the guilt trip they tried to put me through was worse than a fucking female.

>> No.17996834
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17996834

>https://twitter.com/electo_mania/status/1241510620329058312
Imágenes del Hospital de campaña desplegado en el interior del recinto ferial IFEMA en Madrid
Translation: Images of the Field Hospital deployed inside the IFEMA fairground in Madrid

>> No.17996835

>>17996808

I'm hoping Buffett gets fucked, the smug faggot.

>> No.17996837

>>17996808
everyone is overleveraged and the bagholder is the US gov't which has been hijacked by kleptocrats and is now printing unprecedented amounts of money to keep everyone afloat

this thing is crashing in a way nobody thinks possible. the bottom will unironically be food, guns, and ammo tier.

>> No.17996840

>>17996813
....The round numbers are not based on just rounding it off. It's an approximation which is better than saying "If it followes between 2317.47 we are fucked" that means nothing and even thinking about janking someone on that is the most asinine complaint you could have.

>> No.17996856

>>17996840
Not even close, you're rounding proves you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. You're just spouting vagueries like everyone else who has called 2700, 2600, 2500, 2400 a bottom and listed similar market events in meaningless soapbox posts.

>> No.17996859

>>17996835
kind of rude 2bh

>>17996795
I really did like that movie
it's interesting that the media spectacle didn't really turn out to be full of life and violence and sex, but instead is completely dull and sterile
they should have made a sequel in the 90s/early 2000s where nothing happens

>> No.17996879

>>17996856
....You don't call specific numbers in a general prediction based upon performance. the S&P is a measure of specific stocks and as such you don't use exactitudes. You're gonna see values of 50 and 100 as intervals because there is too much noise to make a say 25 call.
JFC.

>> No.17996892

>>17996791
why flir... when behemoth dividend growth mega space and satellite and stealth jet helicoper company LMT is on sale... I mean DAMN

>>17996647
>>17996571
it won't be the happening you want it to be, unless your happening is a lowering of human life expectancy the world over, and more internet and social media based interaction, and seeing people in person much less often. You could even get a great depression-like happening where people are just poor and desperate and always worried about their next meal.

Even if hospitals are overwhelmed and the supply chains get fucky, all of that should take less than a year before it's worked out.

>>17996835
>hating buffett
RETARD ALERT!!!
Buffett said he STARTED buying, he's not deploying all his cash at these levels, he's just letting everyone know who to come to when they're desperate.

Check it: when companies get desperate for cash and they've got too many fires to put out, they'll put out a line to see if Buffett and Munger are interested.

And most of the time they'll laugh and say no.

>>17996720
Based future of pleasure... I hope it wasn't upside-down.

>> No.17996894

>>17996879
>retracement
>g-guys it's not a technical analysis i swear!
I'm not going to type like I'm performing for my honors thesis just to tell you to get stuffed. Fuck off.

>> No.17996910

>>17996894
If you're such a smart guy why aren't you rich?

>> No.17996917

>>17996624

Right on the front page of market watch
S&P 500 Movers
CCL
20.0
MGM
18.3
MOS
16.7
UAL
15.1
FLIR
-18.7
WEC
-18.1
ARNC
-16.4
L
-16.2

>> No.17996922

>>17996859
I liked it more in college when I was smoaking cannabis >_<
>>17996892
There are no upside down cards in Thoth tarot silly, inverting cards is a silly modern practice so smol brains still feel like there's variance. The real test is whether it's in elemental, numerological, and astrological correspondence with the surrounding cards. The card before it was also a sun sign, and earth aligned, indicating a harmonious transition :O

>> No.17996927

>>17996894
....I said the same thing twice and only switched up wording.

>>17996892
I brought up flir because some anon didn't understand why they took a beating this week. That's literally the only reason.

Speaking of they went silent after I asked for a specific link.

>> No.17996950

>>17996917
Ok yeah it's there. Why is it there? Well that's why I pointed to the financials and other analysis points. Further, look at their market exposure. There is plenty of evidence as to why they took a hit.

>> No.17996958

Holy shit I might be able to buy Apple stonks for $200 on Monday

>> No.17996959

>>17996917
deleted? Why?

>> No.17996970

>>17996922
and the glasses store in the new version would have those frame glasses with no prescription that hipster kids used to wear
get it? empty spectacles... hehe
I really did enjoy the film
I need to learn French so that I can write the philosophy books and fuck 80s arthoes

>> No.17996984

>>17995340
Starting Monday I'm going to buy 2x bull index etfs like DDM and SPUU on red days. Will very slowly average in and pray that a bottom is in sight. 2x leverage is less stressful than 3x by magnitudes, and they run just fine once things do turn around.

>> No.17996994

Again: IF you have a company that has wide exposure to civilian markets that take a hit, your hit is going to be higher as you are along the chief suppliers rather than the manufacturing arm. This is because you have multiple customers. Losing one or two due to a downturn affects you less but if they all shut down, your losses are magnified as compared to others. This is precisely because you lose a LOT more contracts than others.

>> No.17996995

>>17996950
Can you stop being such a contrarian faggot and admit it is definitely pretty odd lol.

There are reasons to be short on a lot of things right now, those you mentioned put it worse off than others. But the absolute worst? And no coverage?

Its fucking weird. And if it was enough to tank it like that, it had to be a major fund desperate to get out of everything, in which case we got major issues Monday.

>> No.17997020

>>17996995
It's the absolute worst for one day. And given that every stock did bad, then it's not even surprising. Why are you even making a mountain out of this? Look at the next worst performing one. Do you see coverage over that one?

>> No.17997060

>>17996821
>Stank
Ew

>> No.17997083

Dix did finally pop on Friday...
God damn it Mnchan we’re gonna get a squeeze, is it?

>> No.17997092

>>17995469
I really think that it will be nowhere near as bad in the US as some are predicting, certainly nothing on the scale of what Italy is going through. There will be many deaths and life will change for some months, but this overblown panic is exactly what will save us from the worst outcome. In my opinion the picture will be a lot clearer 3 weeks from now and we shouldn't be surprised if the rate of infections begins to decline one month from now.

>> No.17997140

>>17997020
Every other stock there had tons of coverage, all I can find on FLIR is a link to the general MFool page, on which there is a fucking cliff in price, where 750/775 have it as outperform, and 99/100 all stars have it as outperform.

https://www.fool.com/quote/nasdaq/flir-systems/flir/

there is universal consensus... I smell a major insitutiuon liquidation.

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17997141

We might have a problem.
>https://twitter.com/jesseyisachar/status/1241385187008811008?s=21
>I am writing this tweet as a plea for help. I am a cardiac electrophysiologisit and I was diagnosed with the covid 19 virus Thursday 9 days ago. treated with Hydroxychloroquine and zinc for 5 days. My respiratory status worsened and ct showed diffuse ground glass opacity.

>Azithromycin was added slowly my saturation is worsening I am desperate can any one help me get the drug from Gilead Remdesivir please help

>> No.17997155

>>17995267
Can't wait

Any one who is still holding bags deserves what's coming

>> No.17997169

>>17997092
The US is half assing all it's tests, most of the population isn't taking it too seriously and it's got the unhealthiest population in the world. They're gunna get body slammed.

>> No.17997174

>>17997092
it's a home made catastrophe that was inside of us all along

Americans decided to watch and wait while the Virus spread.
And once it became "meta" to panic and lock everything down, we decided to do that too. Not because cutting off the limbs of our economy is actually going to save more lives in the end, but because we wanted to watch and see what would happen.
This 'crisis' isn't at all about the simple physical characteristics of the virus, but getting at the true disease inside of our souls. The curiosity and the boredom. Americans care more about creating drama than preserving the existing structures.

>> No.17997180

>>17997140
Except WEC the next worst performing,
ARNC had nothing since the 13th.
I mean we could go down the list there.
And using your own source. Here's their page on WEC:
https://www.fool.com/quote/nyse/wec-energy-group/wec/
You're literally making a mountain out of a molehill. I get that you're trying to sniff out shorts, but don't get too attached to your pet theory if there's not really much to be said about it. Especially if they're doing just as bad as other stocks

>> No.17997198

>>17997141
how much are you invested in gilead to shill and account that is clearly a shill account?

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17997253

Guys help me out I've been reading for 4 hours about a good long term strategy when the markets rebound in murica. Some people suggested the 40/60 UPRO/TMF portfolio. But I'm afraid a violent correction might break me. Are there any other good long term hold strategies? halp

>> No.17997259

>>17997198
I did a bit of twitter digging and this person claims this is an actual person
>https://twitter.com/maryambaqir/status/1241490288922804226?s=21
>Even though it’s disappointing that people are focusing on this account being new, I’d like to confirm that Dr. Greenberg is the director of cardiac electrophysiology at Maimonides Medical Center, Brooklyn, New York. I work as a resident physician there.
She’s had her account since 2012, I’d say there’s some credibility to it.

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>>17997198

>> No.17997309

>>17997155
>pension and retirement funds deserve to be drained of their funds
Soulless. There’s money to be made but I have no idea why you’d cheer for people going broke.

And I’ve still got my long term 2008 HODL vtsax... not going to try and time this shit, not sure when my bear ETFs will switch to longs.

>> No.17997323

>>17997309
because he is a broken human being, whose only joy in life is the misery of others, it distracts him from his own failures.

>> No.17997328

>>17997253
what the hell are you reading? just buy the entire market.

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17997343

>>17996834
Reminds me....

>> No.17997366

>>17997328
trying to outperform the market during a bull run, google hedgfundie wsb ETF

>> No.17997370

>>17997328
this
you buy anything good
then you ignore shit for 6 months and you've beaten the market.

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17997379

>>17996917
>CCL +20%
>MGM +18%
Lmao Friday was such a joke. These are going to fucking ZERO.

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17997408

>>17997379
Fight my challenger.
His name is President Bailouts

>> No.17997446

>>17997180
Is there any way to see institutional ownership changes or infer them short term?

>> No.17997449

>>17997366
if you can't handle the risk don't take the bet.
people don't lose at poker because they don't know the numbers, they lose because they get cold feet and fold when the pressure is on.

>> No.17997456

>>17997198
Gilead is legit. Remdesivir was in development for treatment of similar viruses. Italy is using it right now. GILD is one of the few stocks I still hold and its UP. I'm also planning on getting INO, Moderna, and MDT.

>>17997408
>bailouts for CRUISE SHIPS and CASINOS
Bruh, they need to bail out banks, airlines, hospitals, farmers, military/defense, and oil before they even consider dumb shit like that.

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>>17997083
>Dix did finally pop on Friday...
>God damn it Mnchan we’re gonna get a squeeze, is it?
Yep. Bears have been super greedy to the point of leaving themselves vulnerable to a no news surprise squish. It won't be a reversal but it will be a decent sized move with potential for back to back circuit breaking green days.

>> No.17997524

>>17997483
The upcoming bulltrap is super obvious.

>> No.17997526

>>17997483
care to time those days?
I feel the stimulus release would help and be a sign of a green wave, but the upcoming jobs report is downright doom bringing on the markets

>> No.17997537

chances of red monday worldwide again? any news?

>> No.17997549

>>17997456
I think people may over-estimate antiviral treatments.

It has to be administered early. You aren't gonna give someone on ICU or close to ICU and give him the pills and the next day he is cured.

It's effectiveness diminishes the further along the patient gets it. Early administration is crucial.

>> No.17997550

>>17997449
no, they lose because someone has a better hand. I'm trying to figure out what the best hand might be for the upcoming market.

>> No.17997562

>>17997537
100% No one is insane enough to think kung flu is close to stopping. You'll encounter nothingburgerers, but they don't believe what they say.

>> No.17997563

>>17997456
Oh I agree 100% that casinos and cruise ships are not a priority. I don’t want them to be bailed out at all.

But hes already committed to it. They were trying to figure out a way to justify it, to make the ship cabins available as hospital beds or something kek.
But then you’d have a situation just like the Japanese cruise where the air system seemed to spread the virus to everyone on board.

Regardless. They’re likely getting a bailout. Why not? Congress doesn’t have to pay for it, no one cares about the deficit or debt. I think all the cruise companies are even based out of an important swing state. So they get to save American jobs and voters.

Bailouts.

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>>17997456
>I'm also planning on getting INO
Don't.
t. INO bagholder.

>> No.17997587

>>17997563
Make them hire only american citizens for 5 years if bailed out and take equity. They are international companies with a small number of American citizens. There's really no reason to bail them out.

>> No.17997594

>>17997526
>care to time those days?
No idea. And also it won't be as effective a squeeze if it isn't a partial surprise. It may have happened last week if not for Corona chan's unique propensity for bad news after bad news after bad news unrelenting. Since that is the case, bull side will wait and let the markets do panic sell offs until the options get crazy expensive (already happening) and there is an overextension with little resistance formed on the way to hold prices low from technical perspective.

>> No.17997597

>>17997563
you'd have to have people onboard enforcing the quarantine, literally turning the ships into floating prisons that would be completely unusable later, because how the fuck are you going to make sure there are no contaminated things on board? it's an idiotic idea desu.

>> No.17997604

>>17997587
arnival is a Florida-based company that, as of 2018, employed 12,000 corporate employees and another 88,000 crew. Of those 88,000 working on Carnival ships, only 4.4 percent come from North and Central America

>bail them out to save american jobs

>> No.17997605

>>17997562
>100% No one is insane enough to think kung flu is close to stopping
Tell that to the zoomers partying on the beach.

>> No.17997622

>>17997605
SEIZE THE DAY BRO LIKE I JUST TURNED 21 OKAY THIS TRIP WAS PLANNED MONTHS AGO

>> No.17997626

Are we hitting two circuit breakers right off the bat on monday?

>> No.17997628

>>17997605
the zoomers might become the most hated generation dethroning boomers, their hated towards the boomers might've been a projection all along since they hate themselves and are so simmilar in their behaviour

>> No.17997633

>>17997622
There's people like that in every generation. You can't really blame one. America has been full of stubborn fat fucks since the boomers.

>> No.17997636

>>17997605
Look at cases in NY vs FL. They are doing nothing wrong.

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>>17997605

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>>17997549
BUT what about antibodies?
Regeneron was talking on the GS conference call about producing loads of antibodies and first administering them to healthcare staff, allowing them to fight off the virus before their immune system can produce enough of its own antibodies.

If we can keep the doctors and nurses healthy, that should go a long way to mitigating this disaster.

>>17997587
I don’t like it either. Maybe if you write your congressman they’ll listen?

>>17997604
Trump already committed to it. They’re based out of Florida? I think he’s tight with the Florida business community...
It almost sounds like you think these people are concerned with what’s best for the future of America?
>>17997597
100%, trump got a question about it yesterday or today at the presser.
He corrected the reporter who asked about the donating the ship “that’s not the right word, they’re not giving us the ship” kek and tried to ignore the substance of the question. He admitted using them as hospitals isn’t going to work but he’ll try to figure out a way to make use of them “we’ll see what happens”

>> No.17997658

lets be honest.

It's up to the old and elderly to quarantine themselves. Many did not take this seriously at all despite the risk. It's far more likely boomers are ignoring it than any zoomer.

>> No.17997661

>>17997636
decent point

>> No.17997668

>>17997655
If INO genuinely has a vaccine they have best chances of actually pulling it off desu. Look into their way.

That's being said, IF they have the vaccine, if they don't then my bags are fucking shit.

>> No.17997680

>>17997483
>circuit breaking green days.
I dont think they have those, outside limit up which isnt a circuit breaker. But we arent at full greedy bear just yet, friday was suppose to be green and still fell further into red. Bears are plenty strong still.

>> No.17997687

>>17997680
>I dont think they have those
They're for single stocks.

>> No.17997688

>>17997655
They pay pretty much zilch in USA taxes, hire nearly zero americans. A bailout of cruise lines is idiotic.

>> No.17997690

>>17997550
poker is a game that's played over dozens of hands. pros don't attribute their success to the luck of the draw.
but yes, some participants have an unfair advantage, but the stock market isn't designed to be fair. so you'd better have a damn good reason to believe you can compete on equal footing. and I seriously doubt someone asking for help on fucking 4chan has something like that.

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>>17997549
>treatment needs to be early
Thats true of all treatments, though. Remdesivir is one of the few anti-virals that seems to work.
I am curious though, what if we used a compound that has a fake ACE2 receptor? Why do our cells have ACE2 receptors? Is it necessary to function?

>>17997563
Nobody has committed to shit other than airlines. Even in 2008 not that many companies got bailouts (banks, airlines, car companies). There is not infinite money despite your delusions. Only about 1000 companies got bailouts that totaled not even 1 trillion dollars. Even if they gave out 2 trillion they could not save these companies. Luxury companies are as good as DEAD.

>>17997597
He said the hospital ships would be used to non-corona patients.

>> No.17997699

>>17997661
They are outside in a hot environment with the sun shining on them. There's also hardly any surfaces to contaminate.

Closed areas, busses, public transport, etc is where it spreads. Not on a warm sunny beach.

>> No.17997706

>>17997628
Back before our current timeline, labors generally went to helping others, or helping one's self. There was purpose to the labor. Now that people have lost sight of the purpose behind the labor, and see society as dead or dying, consumerism runs rampant. Not many see purpose in their own lives, others lives, futures, labors, etc. It's an apathetic and nihilistic doctrine, and it's so prevalent because they lack the understanding and guidance to understand how labor should actually work. When minimally 27% of the time you spend laboring in America goes to your competition, it's no wonder they've given up. Stack that in with all of the other negatives and you have a society in a continual spiritual death spiral. The only way it gets fixed is if everyone comes back around to truth, justice is restored to our government. Inefficiencies and handouts are eliminated, and unity, community, and social fabric and identity in truth is all restored.

The generation is just reacting. I'm not excusing the behavior but what would you expect when their fathers and mothers treated their futures with such contempt.

>> No.17997735

>>17997696
Do you want the billion IQ take on this?

Pandemic response needs to involve climate controls.

If humanity faced a new virus that only survived under 75f degree temperature. Would you want every indoor environment with heating to turn the temperature to 78f degrees?

Answer this question.

Would you want to turn indoor temperatures to 78f? Or not?

I can tell you right now. In our vast array of pandemic responses. Even if faced with a society ending virus that died at 78f temperature, no one would turn up the heat.

Ask yourself why.

>> No.17997742

>>17997706
100% based and redpilled. The great demoralization of America is the greatest crime of the past few decades.

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>>17995290
You're gonna get POOMPED on, but it'll end down after shorters get squeezed out and weak handed putters have killed themselves.

>> No.17997748

>>17997735
>Would you want to turn indoor temperatures to 78f? Or not?
as long as I get to hang out in my boxers, then fine

>> No.17997751

>>17997735
What I mean is bacteria, virus, etc everything has temperature and humidity sensitivity.

It makes sense that for a pandemic response you would want to alter climate of climate controlled locations to battle whatever pandemic you are dealing with.

how much does a humidifier or 5 degree AC/Heating change cost?

>> No.17997756

>>17995464
US will become a worse version of Italy in the next month. You guys are fucked FUCKED fucked in the ass. S&P/DOW are being held up by the government pumping out cash and it won't last forever.

>> No.17997765

>>17997748
Yes. I'm saying.. There is no climate controlled response to pandemics.

We can alter humidity and temperature to combat whatever pandemic we are dealing with.

This is not in the toolset or imagination of anyone in power, ask yourself why.

>> No.17997774

>>17997756
>US will become a worse version of Italy in the next month.
Dont delude yourself. Italy is a thirdworld country with terrible healthcare. Most of Europe sucks at healthcare.

>> No.17997779

>>17997748

Like, it's seriously maddening to see this. Do you understand?

Seriously think on this for a 50 second period.

If faced with a climate sensitive pandemic. Humanity would not alter their indoor climates to fight it in any way.

That's the truth. ask yourself why. If we had something out there and 1,000,000 people died, we would not alter the temperature or humidity of any such space.

>> No.17997785

>>17997696
>There is not infinite money despite your delusions.
Wat?
I don’t believe there’s infinite money, I believe congress acts like there’s infinite money. I said I don’t want them to bail out these companies.
But trump has mentioned our proud American Cruise companies who “did nothing wrong” as one of the many who are being punished “it’s not their fault, it’s not anybody’s fault,” and such. I’m 90% sure he’s on record multiple times saying he’s going to help them out, but I guess he says a lot of things and then says the opposite later.

>>17997688
do you think idiotic means they won’t do it?

>> No.17997786

>>17995813
You don't get to "schlomo" anyone when Trump's daughter converted to Judaism you fucking faggot.

>> No.17997793

>>17997785
Nope. It's still likely, just slightly less than 100% some dem senators bring up that they don't pay taxes.

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Holy dogshit.
They weren't kidding about this speedrunning the coronavirus shit.
Look at the US go!

>> No.17997801

>>17996679
uhh, based?

>> No.17997805

>>17997774
>Italy is a thirdworld country with terrible healthcare.
t. has to pay a gorrilion dollars AND be a celebrity just for a corona check
kek
KEK

>> No.17997811

>>17997765
>>17997779

>This is not in the toolset or imagination of anyone in power, ask yourself why.
there is no toolset or imagination
they're just following in line with social expectations
no one in power is getting creative with this in any way. They are just doing whatever seems "reasonable" based on what doctors say, and what everyone else is doing.

you're trying to reason and problem solve a symptom. The virus is just a symptom. The malaise and the decadence and the boredom and the forms are the true disease

>> No.17997813

>>17997735
I practice Pyrotherapy, which means to artificial induce a fever, by taking a bath in very hot water for about half an hour. No idea if it actually helps though. I mean, the point of a fever when you get sick is that your body can handle it while the viruses and foreign bacteria generally cannot. So why not skip right to that step? That would be far more effective treatment because you need to heat your internal temperature, so a hot environment doesn't really help.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrotherapy

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>>17997795
Look at geography of cases.

Even with a massive crowded mardi gras event on feb 25th with worldwide travelers and coronavirus+ people all over its under NYC.

>> No.17997831

>>17997813
The spread.
Not treating someone infected.

but even with someone infected you still have a fever response for a reason, a hot environment for patients would not be bad esp if on antibiotics.

>> No.17997834

>>17997813
have fun once your balls stop working

>> No.17997836

hot tub baby

>> No.17997849

>>17997811
Yes, the big problem isn't this pandemic. we are facing a great filter event of which we have under a 1/100000000000000~ chance of proceeding, most likely.

>> No.17997852

>>17997805
Nobody goes to Europe for medical care. They go to America or Dubai.

>> No.17997862

>>17997785
He specifically avoided saying he would give bailouts to anyone EXCEPT airlines. Airlines are the ONLY companies he has specifically endorsed a bailout for. Anything else you hear is noise and doesn't mean shit until its written down in a bill. Its impossible to bailout everyone, stop pretending its even possible.

>> No.17997865

Anyone else think that the virus was released intentionally and that the oil price war was coordinated to occur at the same time in an effort to maximize destabilization of the US? Possibly remove the reserve currency status? Or should I take my meds and go to bed?

>> No.17997875

>>17997836
very groovy baby, yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5LgG73TrDc

>> No.17997876

>>17997865
take your meds

It's maximally destabilizing china

>> No.17997890

>>17997834
I'm not boiling my balls retard. Its only applied to your chest/torso and you don't do it every day.

>> No.17997894

>>17995238
>gook flu is praised for being the blast bastion of hope for the white and black man
>kills americas economy as well as europes
>crypto niggers and gold fags reap the rewards as companies steal peoples 401k money again
>invest in ramen and helium because those are the only things that actually sell in a post corona economy
>in a country club in a decade you will be able to push people out of the way
>old money that are toilet paper heirs and paper clip moguls dont got shit on some one that sold death to the willing for profit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1SIWyk92-k

>> No.17997902

>>17997865
It's not wildest conspiracy theory but I wouldn't make any assumptions or plans based on it's validity without proof.

>> No.17997909

>>17997890
>I'm not boiling my balls retard.
lmao

>> No.17997916

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg6J1Skptbs
I will remind /biz/...

>> No.17997919

>>17997865
yes

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>>17997865
No. The simple answer is Chinks are retarded.
>build biolab near city
>researchers are retarded and sell testing animals to wet markets
>make bat soup
>coof time
>millions dead
Case closed. Fuck China.

>> No.17997943

>>17997924
provide source that links patient zero to wet market, ill wait.

>> No.17997947

>>17997865
Russia isn't exactly shy about wanting to destabilize the US. don't know why anyone would think this is a conspiracy, or even news.

>> No.17997949

Lets take two systems for instance.

If you have a system that produces 1 ball per day. And you lose a month of production, you lost 30 balls that year.

If you have another system that produces 1 ball everytime someone spends a dollar. If you miss a month but the next month double the dollars get spent.

At the end of the year who has suffered a relatively larger loss?

USA economy aside from oil is relatively well positioned for this pandemic.

>> No.17997955

>>17997924
its a chink my man gotta admit that China fucked up big eating bat

>> No.17997964

>>17997943
>>17997924

I looked into it, and I don't think so. That lab is on the same major ring road in Wuhan as the wet market, but its on the total opposite side. Maybe someone who worked there got the grumblies for some fish heads, but viruses do mutate naturally.

The oil war however is much harder to explain.

>> No.17997975

>>17997949
0*2=0

>> No.17997977

>>17997706
100% what a boomer would say, "you nearly destroyed the world mayne, concentration camps nihilism mayne, A-Bomb mayne, you don't get it square"

>> No.17997988

>>17997947
Russia is not the one driving the price war. Everyone knows they said they were open to renegotiating days after.

They (Trump and the prince, not the illuminati or anything) are trying to destabilize a country, but it isn't the US. More than that, you'll have to figure out on your own.

>> No.17997989

>>17997964
No it's not.

Saudi Arabia and Russia are enemies. Saudi Arabia wanted to coordinate a cut in oil to keep prices higher. Russia in reapolitik doesn't give a fuck and wants Saudi Arabia to bear the brunt of any cut.

Saudi Arabia sees where oil will go with no cut and to retain face takes the nuclear MBS method of all out war lets bleed together.

>> No.17997990

>>17997947
This.
They specifically said they wanted us oil producers to share the pain when they rejected the opec+ production cut.
I suspect the saudis want the US oil producers to collapse too, so they can sell at a higher price once the shale producers are out of the market.

>>17997949
Interesting perspective on the shortcomings of a manufacturing based economy.
But I ask that you condense your screeching about tempature effects on the virus to fewer posts. You don’t need to fill the thread with all those posts just to get in extra pics of what mardigras looks like.

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>>17997943
>>17997964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54
https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-buy-chinas-story-the-coronavirus-may-have-leaked-from-a-lab/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology
Chink shills BTFO. Get fucked you ignorant pieces of shit. China will pay.

>> No.17997999

>>17997975
The point was a lot of things we spend capital on in the modern world don't require factories to be open or even the companies to be open. USA has more of this type of economy than other countries.

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https://twitter.com/KANTBOT20K/status/1241620224115453952?s=19
How do we come to understand the minds of the masses? How will they react to a great depression?

>> No.17998005

>>17997989
Huh...
Well Iran certainly is getting BTFO now that they have tariffs, sanctions, virus, AND oil price drop.

>> No.17998012

>>17997988
>Russia is not the one driving the price war.
what two parties is this price war between?

>> No.17998021

>>17997988
That actually makes a lot of sense.

>> No.17998028

How to profit off of oil drop?

>> No.17998032

>>17997989
Trump rents out entire commands to fight the princes loosing war for him in Yemen, and the prince is ensuring he doesn't get re-elected.

Yet trump has applied no serious pressure, when he easily could. And oil rebound to 45$ would take half of the pressure off the economy. Why do you think that is anon?

>> No.17998060

>>17997964
>The oil war however is much harder to explain.
Oil war was coming for years now. Shale producers dont want to cut production and Russia wants to bankrupt them. OPEC members all got tired of cuts so Saudis said fuck it and went nuclear mode and will bankrupt them all now to level the field again. This was coming since 2015.

>> No.17998070

>>17997988
>destabilize a country, but it isn't the US. More than that, you'll have to figure out on your own.
US definitely want Iran hurting from lower oil that too.

>> No.17998077

>>17998012

Russia and Saudi basically were going to exchange 1 piece of cake for 1 dollar. Russia said, lets talk tmrw, I would preffer to pay 98 cents.

SO, ten Saudi took the cake, shit all over it then thrw it in russias face, then proceeded to burn down the cake shop.

There is only one side driving the price war, it was previously a price squible.

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>>17998070

>> No.17998100

>>17998032
Because oil might not even rebound to 45

>> No.17998116

>>17995692
Let me guess. The moment the market does something you didnt expect you get angry or claim to have forgotten something to save face. Reality is you dont know otherwise wouldnt you be ridiculously wealthy already?

>> No.17998140

SQQQ into monday

>> No.17998152

>>17998116
People are high on their positions right now. This happened in 2009. They thought things were going to collapse close to zero. All the red flags were still up, but the markets started recovering. These people that could have taken profits were screeching that we weren't even halfway to hell yet and the stock market will never be the same again. They were too arrogant to realize they got a little bit lucky in their timing and lost their profits.

>> No.17998165

>>17998100
Low oil and corona together have a legitimate chances of ending the Iranian regime. The US had blocked all meaningful aid, and is blocking their IMF loan request.

If we can topple them this way, we won't have to go to war with them in 5 years to stop the nukes.

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>>17998077
how the fuck do you have a one sided price war?

>> No.17998177

>>17998165
Not if the US topples first

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>>17998177
back to zerohedge

>> No.17998197

>>17998177
you do know murders went down post global financial crisis, when Americans suffered horribly especially the poor.

America is far more resilient than you imagine right now. Don't think twitter is the average american in any respect.

>> No.17998213

>>17998177
>US topples
The government may fail but you don't understand the American culture if you believe that America has any chance of "falling."

>> No.17998220

>>17998175
That's the definition of a one sided price war. One side refuses to talk and keeps pumping no matter what, the other is open to talking but obviously isn't going to just lie down.

There was no war before Saudi went full retard. But they aren't retarded. They're just trying to collapse Iran and Iraq.

>> No.17998233

>>17998220
there's not enough demand..

>> No.17998269

NEW THREAD
>>17998263
>>17998263
>>17998263

>> No.17998280

>>17995924
Use Telegram

>> No.17998287

>>17998233
Which is what makes it the only time in which something like this would work.

Trump killed a shia Iranian military commandr in shia terriroty for an attack that happened in obvious sunni territory and was obviously done by sunni ISIS members. What do you think his intentions for Iran are anon?

He, like every other US president in the last 40years, wants Iran gone. But he rly, rly wants them gone. And I agree.

But I agree in general that I want them all gone. With the exception of Egypt cause that military dictator is cold war lvls of based.

>> No.17998298

>>17996391
RIP BITCHES

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>>17998070
Yeah. Stay tuned!

>> No.17998441

>>17997083
Lmao imagine being this delusional after all the news that came out this weekend.

INFECTION NUMBERS DOUBLED OVER THE WEEKEND. LET THAT SINK IN

>> No.17998492

>>17997779
WHY NOT

>> No.17998499

>>17997813
Nice use of that Poly Sci degree

>> No.17998525

>>17997949
yeah but who is going to be able to spend double the dollars WHEN A LARGE PART OF THE POPULATION IS UNEMPLOYED.

>> No.17998549

>>17998004
What a fucken loser

>> No.17998564

>>17998085
Why Iran?

>> No.17998923

>>17998564
Lmao
>>17998499
>>17998492
>>17998441
>>17998549
>>17998525
Absolutely pathetic.

And the numbers are expected to double. Constantly. That’s what exponential growth means.

Why Iran... read a goddamn history boom retard.