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ATTENTION

PATIENT ONE IN ITALY TESTS POSITIVE AGAIN

SELL SELL SELL

>> No.17892729

>>17892717
>trust me bro

>> No.17892755

its just residue corona virus

>> No.17892810

>>17892729
https://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/03/17/news/torino_di_nuovo_positivo_al_test_il_paziente_1_dichiarato_guarito_torna_in_isolamento-251532847
>>17892755
he tested negative before

>> No.17892902

>>17892810
Oh wow. This is unironically a Black Death kind of event

>> No.17892955
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>> No.17892969

what does this mean

>> No.17892990

>>17892969
everybody loses their job, all small businesses shut down in the entire West

>> No.17892994

>>17892969
It means you can get sick again.

>> No.17892996

Well I guess we need the world government. This is going to dissolve the economy, the EU and the United States.

>> No.17893055

>>17892969
The virus will continue to float around for a year before a vaccine can be made and the death rate will be incredibly high. An end to the quarantine won’t be really possible anytime soon. God is putting a pillow over the collective face of everyone over 60 and everyone with aids.

>> No.17893071

>>17892969
it means there is no goddamn herd immunity until we have a vaccine

>> No.17893090

>>17892996
here's what the Serbian president thinks of the EU
https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1239671120586031104

>> No.17893091

Antibodies don't work. sars-cov-2 is literally unkillable.

>> No.17893099
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>>17892969
SHUT IT DOWN.

>> No.17893100

>>17892810
The article literally says it's normal for him to still have some residual virus left that would show up on the test. Stop posting retarded shit you can't even understand schizo.

>> No.17893104

wait a minute if he is patient one, then who is patient 0?

>> No.17893125

>>17892810
The Japanese lady tested negative too and regot it. They thought it was just faulty testing. I don't see any reason why it couldn't be false negatives again but who knows at this point.

>> No.17893128

>>17893071
it actually means there is no chance to ever have a vaccine, but the virus could be just dormant too

>> No.17893135
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>>17892717
NOOOOOOOO THE MARKET CANT GO UP I BOUGHT SPY PUTS OTM NOOOOOOOO I NEED EVERYONE TO SELL

>> No.17893152

Is there something the government knows that we dont? I mean I get it's bad but this seems excessive? What are the odds it's a biological weapon

>> No.17893202

>>17893152
I think it’s worse then they have let on

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

Out of total resolved cases in Italy a good 40% have died

>> No.17893209

>>17893152
Its the worst shit that any currently living generation has ever seen.

>> No.17893228

>>17892717
fucking retard, multiple reasons why this could happen. Faulty testing (italians so yea) or residual virus.

>> No.17893241

>>17892969
It’s incurable and we’re all gonna die

>> No.17893242

>>17892969
Italy used shit tests and there was a false negative

>> No.17893244

>>17893152
im starting to think they know its a bioweapon and cant admit it because itll cause people to panic more than they already have

>> No.17893257

>get cold twice
>oh nononono its end of the world

>> No.17893470

>>17893152
Is anyone else sleepy right now?

>> No.17893518

>>17893257
>gets the flu again and again and again
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

>> No.17893541

>>17892969
It means a few things: either the patient returned a false negative during a brief period that appeared to be recovery, possibly due to a flawed test; the patient tested negative during a brief period that seemed to be recovery, but the test was not faulty and the virus was dormant and undetectable; or finally that the patient was actually recovered, tested negative accurately, and was infected again from a new source.

>> No.17893627

>>17893242
Gigacope.

>> No.17893978
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>>17893202
Holy fuck.

>> No.17894010

>>17893202
But why? How is it so much deadlier in Italy than anywhere else?

>> No.17894046

>>17893202
What the fuck, every country is close to 50% in closed cases. Looks like the 1-3% death rate was just some bullshit based on who hadn't died/recovered yet

>> No.17894058

>>17893202

That's because dying is quick and recovery takes awhile. It skews "resolved cases" numbers hardcore. It's going to look like that in a lot of places where it's starting to spread quickly now.

>> No.17894075

>>17894010
simply being more honest with the numbers, maybe.
this >>17893978 - and less than 10% recovered to date - are utterly horrific stats tho. Which would also explain the 'shut it down' govt. panic a bit.

>> No.17894086

>>17893202
>South Korea
>1.4K recovered and 81 dead
>Italy
>2.9K recovered and 2.5k dead
How is this discrepancy possible?

>> No.17894098

>>17892717
roll for executing schizo fear mongers by firing squad.

>> No.17894101

>>17894075
Why would South Korea lie about it though? Or Japan? I get China lying, but the other numbers just don't make sense.

>> No.17894293

>>17892969
More general uncertainty and imponderability

>> No.17894306

>>17893202
In exponential growth, most people that have it got it recently. If recoveries take 3 weeks you're really just seeing the first old people dying quickly and the very first young people just beginning to recover.

>> No.17894341

>>17893244
I’ve been saying the same. It was bioengineered as a form of social security. Old people are less of a burden on society (because they ded), it will continuously cull the herd now that it’s in circulation, and it will help prevent a species threatening disease in the future.

I don’t think all or most governments are on board with the reasoning behind this motivation, but I think it was man made for this purpose.

I also don’t necessarily think it was the Chinese. The western world has more to gain due to a significantly aging population, and it’s easier to pin exotic illnesses on China and blame it on bullshit like “chinks eating bats lmao”.

There’s also the added benefit of resetting the financial system painfully, but without blame. Instead of letting the clearly unsustainable system collapse under its own weight, leaving (((them))) exposed to obvious blame, (((they))) get to keep power by playing victim of terrible circumstances

>> No.17894364

>>17892717
Baby's first pandemic
it's just the flu bruh

>> No.17894414
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>>17893152
100% bioweapon.
pic related

>> No.17894425

>>17893541
Correct. The sample size is still too small to tell and China didn't give us enough info during their meltdown.

>> No.17894453

>>17893090
What a pussylips cuck lol

>> No.17894506

>>17894086
South Korea did a ton of testing and isolated aggressively. It also has had the time for people to recover.

Italy has tons of people not reported as infected, or recovered because they didn't go to hospitals. Who did go to hospitals? Boomers about to get fucking wrekt.

>> No.17894524

>>17894101
idk.
this >>17894306 is certainly a large factor, some face-saving number-massage by the koreans (and better handling) + chinks are lying bastards. Even adding all that up, plus Italians are inarguably older society in general, where generations live closer together yadda yadda - still, this amount of divergence would only really leave genetic differences, and corona-chan being perhaps more deadly with pasta niggers (and probably western euro types) in general. Which would be interesting

>> No.17894555

>>17893099
>Italian citizen "Mohammed Abu Hilal"

Hahahahaha

>> No.17894560

>>17893228
Italians have proven to unironically be the most prepared and serious with this shit. They test a lot, confine properly in hospitals and even do regular cleansing of streets with anti-viral agents. Gooks and chinks are lying.

>> No.17894730

>>17894101
All asians have this built-on mechanism of trying to impress, save face and don't admit defeat. It spawns from an inferiority complex. That's why you have shit like Kamikaze pilots or inflating economic and HDI indexes. Hell, most asians have test oriented programs in unis so they score highest. France has some of the worst economics unis in all rankings yet prduces most Nobel prize winners while all those excellent ranking chink, gook and jap unis produce nothing but corpo wagies.

>> No.17894815

>>17893055
>a vaccine can be made
meh, if it's close enough to SARS-1 there won't be a vaccine

>> No.17894834

>>17894293
only correct response

>> No.17894858

>>17892969
Eventually everyone on the planet dies from the 0.5% death rate virus because THEY JUST KEEP CATCHING IT OH GOD

>> No.17894871

>>17892969
It means we need to give more money to the banks.

>> No.17894898

>>17894086
>>17894506
The real kicker behind SK's low rates is actually their main cluster of infections were all fairly young and didn't spread too much into at risk groups

>> No.17894972

>>17894010
The average age in Italy is 45 years, they're full of old people who easily die from this

>> No.17895001

>>17893125

they were talking about tests in the trump press conference today and apparently a shitload of the tests are fucked up. Like the WHO one has 50% false positive

>> No.17895026

Doesn't anyone know what the actually test is and how it works? The test were ready awful quick if you ask me. Is it sequencing the genome of the virus from the sample?

>> No.17895051

>>17894010
they also could simply be using more stringent standards for recovery. Like they have to resolve their fever, wait two weeks, then pass two different tests before they're considered recovered. Whereas in other countries, as soon as you walk out of the hospital you're considered recovered.

Just one consideration. It's probably deadlier than the official numbers say but no fucking way it's 50%.

>> No.17895118

>>17895051
50% is ebola numbers. the only thing worse is marburg at like 80%. this thing kills maybe 1% unless the hospital system is overwhelmed and then it goes up to 4 or 5. 50% would mean it would have an extremely low transmission rate, no one would survive long enough to give it to other people.

>> No.17895249

>>17892969
>>17893055
>>17893071
No, >>17893128 is right

Vaccines are usually just deactivated viruses, so that the body becomes too immune to it (just like someone who got sick from the real virus), but since the virus is deactivated, you don't get sick.

If those who actually got sick aren't immune, it means the body cannot develop an immunity to it
= A vaccine is impossible

Basically >>17893241

It could be faulty tests or residual virus, but then there's this >>17893125

>> No.17895268

>>17893104
dead

>> No.17895381

>>17894898
koreans have also been aggressive medicinally by pumping their hospitalized people full of antiviral AIDS/HIV medicine, I havent heart anything like that out of italy, its unclear if there will be long term side effects from those treatments.

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>>17894414
>maintain humanity under X
>improve diversity

>> No.17896181

>>17894560
Didn't patient zero went to the hospital three times. The fourth time they didn't even isolate him and he was infecting everyone. Don't think the Italians have their shit together.

>> No.17896485

so if you catch this thing and its not cured you basically have life expectancy cap then huh?

>> No.17896543

>>17893090
China's 5D chess in action
How stupid can this guy be ?
Say it with me : THEY FUCKING EXPORTED THIS VIRUS

>> No.17896641

>>17893152
>https://torino.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/03/17/news/torino_di_nuovo_positivo_al_test_il_paziente_1_dichiarato_guarito_torna_in_isolamento-251532847
IMHO the only argument against a manufactured china virus is that it hurts their exports a lot and the country depends on that a lot.

>> No.17896713

>>17893055
>God is putting a pillow over the collective face of everyone over 60 and everyone with aids.
Based Yaweh

>> No.17896770

>>17895249
It was the same deal as SARS, no immunity was possible but it was easier to contain since you only spread it after showing symptoms
Covid19 is literally SARS 2.0

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>>17894858
Its 9% actually

>> No.17896885

>>17894086
Italy is NOT a First World Country. It just happens to be in a zone surrounded by them.

>high unemployment
>high corruption from top down
>dumping ground for African and Middle Eastern illegal arrivals
>only thing thriving is their tourist industry which involves whoring out their heritage from a more glorious moment in their history

>> No.17896949

>>17896885
This is happening NORTHERN ITALY, one of the most developed and wealthy parts of the planet.

>> No.17897168

>>17892717
Does this prove the “you can catch it again” statement?
Weren’t they quarantined?

>> No.17897246

>>17896949
It's as 'wealthy' as Maldives or Bora Bora, just because it caters to the world's rich and has some nice services for those going on holiday doesn't mean it is rich as a whole.

>> No.17897255

>>17892969
It means that shutting down businesses and airlines is a waste of time, because everyone is going to get this thing anyway. We will all have it forever, and no one will ever live past 80 ever again.

>> No.17897273

>>17896885
Lombardy is one of the richest areas on Earth.

>> No.17897276

>>17893055
>God is putting a pillow over the collective face of everyone over 60 and everyone with aids.
Finally, the rapture has come.

>> No.17897304

>>17893202
>92% mild condition
>jumping to conclusions

Does it make sense that weak people will die sooner and skew the results toward death? Take a stats class ffs

>> No.17897325

>>17892969
it means expect martial law tomorrow, if you get it expect to be euthanized and have your organs harvested, actually just kill yourself now to lower the burden on the system, make sure to exit all positions and leave nothing for your family before you do it though, the inheritance would be taxed to pennies anyway

>> No.17897335

>>17893071
No, it means the white horseman is riding and their is jack you can do about it. Cry out to God in repentance while you still can.

>> No.17897345

>>17897246
It isn't like those places. Northern Italy is extremely industrialized and developed.

>> No.17897398

>>17897273
Have you ever been to Milan?

Trained there from Geneva, the moment we passed the border, the change in buildings and infrastructure is astounding. Not to mention our first class cabin got mobbed by a group of panhandling gypsies when we stopped at one of Milan's outer stations. This would never have happened in a REAL first world country like Switzerland.

Also, for every rich city like Milan, you have hellholes like Genoa just a couple hours drive away.

>> No.17897423

>>17897246
You are ignorant.

>> No.17897442

>>17897398
Cool anecdote guy. Does not make it true.

>> No.17897467

fuck this gay earth

>> No.17897510

>>17897304
>Assuming
I could also assume that old fuckers are less likely to contract the plague because they are less likely to be in areas where there be the bat death.

>> No.17897561

>>17897442
Yeah you don't need anecdotes like mine. What you need is actual numbers like PEOPLE DYING FROM PREVENTABLE CAUSES and how the government handles a crisis.

Don't get me wrong, Italians (the real ones) are some of the nicest people I have met. But as a society, they are complacent to international competition, and very tolerant of their corrupt and incompetent government.

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>>17897246

>> No.17897843

>>17896770
Just saw an article apparently they've been blasting chimpanzees with covid 19 and they build immunity so it should for us to

>> No.17898079

>>17893104
then who is patient 0
I had covid symptoms in late november. Guess I'm patient zero. Although, no chink.

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>>17893104
Hello.

>> No.17899134

>>17894341
This was 5d Chinese Checkers. We lost.

>> No.17900606

>>17892717
>>17892810
your article litteraly says oscillating between positive and negetive after recovery is normal in the "tail end" pahese, with any infectious disease

>> No.17900807

>>17894010
It's because the Chinks were lying.

>> No.17900828

>>17892969
The sign is a subtle joke. The shop is called "Sneed's Feed & Seed", where feed and seed both end in the sound "-eed", thus rhyming with the name of the owner, Sneed. The sign says that the shop was "Formerly Chuck's", implying that the two words beginning with "F" and "S" would have ended with "-uck", rhyming with "Chuck". So, when Chuck owned the shop, it would have been called "Chuck's Fuck and Suck".

>> No.17900847

>>17894101

To prevent panic. Italians only ones being honest.

>> No.17900867

>>17893100
I honestly can't tell if these panictards yapping about muh airborne aids, viral myocarditis, endless re-infection, etc. are unironically this stupid or if they're some kind of paid panic fomenters.

>> No.17900872

>>17894414
>improve diversity
>proceeds to flood everything with niggers so there is no diversity
Wow

>> No.17900875

>>17900606
>>17900867

>> No.17900887

>>17893104
Patient zero is supposed to be an asymptomatic person that carried the virus.

>> No.17900912

>>17898079
Same bro. My friends and i were just talking about that. A mysterious flu like thing was going around during that time in the area i live.

>> No.17901086

Death Stranding level event, unironically going to end up in fucking bunkers a year from now

>> No.17901123

>>17894086
SK is a police state.
Italy is not.

>> No.17901144

>>17894086
Korea tested way more people, Italy only tested those who were already showing heavy symptoms