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>> No.17890661

If you don't take care of your landlord he can't take care of you. Its in their best interest to pay so that he can keep the buildings running

>> No.17890710

>>17890632
if my landlord sent me that shit every day i was in quarentine I would inject water into the walls and other areas to ensure mold then move out.

>> No.17890745

>>17890632
Imagine living there and them serving that to you like you are their fucking bitch. Not even whores like to be reminded they are whores you know.

>> No.17890782

>>17890632

my landlord said we only have to pay utilities this month

>> No.17890810

>it's a nothingburger
>waaaaaahh, why are they making us pay rent, haven't they heard the news???

>> No.17890832

landlords are the worst leeches of society

>> No.17890834

>>17890632
based

>> No.17890843

>>17890632
NOTICE TO LANDLORD!!
No. Fuck you.
Thank you for your understanding.

>>17890710
>I would inject water into the walls and other areas to ensure mold then move out.
lol'd at the pettiness.

>> No.17890853

Biz needs to seriously create a PR team to expose people like this. Brb checking out twitter.

>> No.17890858

>>17890632
>Get your rent in now before you lose your job them spend the month of April moving out while your fighting pneumonia, because you can't pay for May.

Imagine living in an overpriced new development paperboard shit hole that treated you like a 5 year old.

>> No.17890859

rent cucks seething

>> No.17890912

Just called, their mailbox is full. It's already on twitter.

>> No.17890930
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17890930

What possible benefit would this bring?

>> No.17890932

>>17890632
Pretty sure there’s some sort of anti eviction law

>> No.17890941

>>17890710
based.

landlords are the scum of society

>> No.17890971

>>17890632
Various governments are already activating eviction freezes and shit. This is just some nigger boomer looking to get more money to stock up on gold.

>> No.17890980

>>17890632
is this the boomer exit scam

>> No.17891025

>>17890710
"accidentally" flush a bag of cement down the toilet

>> No.17891086

>>17890710
Based

>> No.17891126

>>17890930
Dabbing on the goyim

>> No.17891129

only MAGA incels think this is based

>> No.17891136

>>17890632
faggot landlord

>> No.17891156

>>17890843
>>17890941
I'm a landlord myself and i keep in contact with my renters to assess there ability to pay at a time like this. I would never send them something as shitty as that letter. It not only asks for money early but has a veiled threat. If its real that company or person is scum

>> No.17891158

>>17890632
That's simply false, it's notoriously difficult to evict tenants.

>> No.17891174

>>17890930
Look up time value of money.
100$ today is worth more than 100$ tomorrow. Plus they're probably panicking and need cashflow for ye ole debt payments.

>> No.17891195

>>17891156
Bless you anon.

>>17890980
Close. Look at who runs it.

>> No.17891223

>>17890632
As a landlord, this is just asking your tenants to destroy your property

>> No.17891244

>>17891223
Are some landlords accelerationists in disguise?

>> No.17891281

>>17890632
>goy give us all your shekels before the market collapses so we can survive
I hope landlords are the first to get culturally enriched when shtf

>> No.17891283

>>17890930

They know that their tenants being unable to pay means they can’t pay their own loan and they’ll get repo’d. Renters are such idiots. Such many better ways to make your money work for you.

>> No.17891314

>>17891283

And by renters I mean people who rent property themselves and people who rent property to others.

>> No.17891331

Encouraging people to pay for essential necessities like shelter first before throwing it away on alcohol and makeup during a dangerously exaggerated societal hysteria is bad? Is this fucking bait?

>> No.17891406

>>17890632
>Our processes will not be stopping
nor will the comeback from this.
dumb fucking Juden deserve all they get, this is some cold shit

>> No.17891411

>>17891126
>>17891174
>>17891283
No, I mean for the tenants.

>> No.17891422

>>17891331
Car, family, shared domicile.
It's basically spring.
Dude shut up baiter.

>> No.17891442

>>17891411
None. In fact it hurts tenants. Hence WHY I TOLD YOU TO LOOK UP THE TIME VALUE OF MONEY. APPLY IT TO BOTH SIDES CHILD.

>> No.17891546

>>17890810
this actually
most meaningful post itt tbhq desu

>> No.17891586

>>17891156
>I'm a landlord
I would sell now before the lynchings start, parasite

>> No.17891630

>>17890832
lol why bc you dont know how to save money? ya fucking cuck

>> No.17891648

>>17891630
because they dont contribute anything to society
>b-b-but they built the place
the vast majority didn't, they just inherited/bought it

>> No.17891650
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>>17890632
Remember what Mao Zedong did to landlords?

>> No.17891653

>>17890632
>overpaying some kike to live in his house
just buy brah, the loans are free

>> No.17891675

>>17891630
landlording is part of the fundamental flaw in society, which is that money earns more money than working.

>> No.17891684

>>17891650
No, but probably something dangerously based.

>> No.17891686

>>17891650
Who cares what a retard who proposed killing all the birds to prevent crop damage thinks? He starved tens of millions of his people. He was a literal subhuman moron.

>> No.17891698

>>17890941
Buy your own house and don’t rent if you don’t like land lords. I worked hard for my properties, it is a privilege for yourself to have people like us that will let you stay in our homes for a modest fee. Without us you’d be on the street

>> No.17891726

>>17891586

Hell Yeah! Revolution!!! After this bong rip tho lmao and a quick nap. TransFurryAnarchoCommusnism Unite!!!

>> No.17891727

>>17891684
yeah, he did that basically >>17891686
took away all their wealth and made them all farmers/peasants

>> No.17891741

>>17890930
The property management company at my last place would send emails to EVERY tenant, days before rent was, full of ATTN URGENT type language, reminding you that rent was going to be due.

It would inevitably freak everyone out because you see URGENT and RENT on an email from someone who never contacts you, and you think your rent payment didn't go through or something.

When I tried explaining to them that freaking out paying tenants while still being ignored pay the delinquent tenants (who also ignore phone calls, on site visits, and lawsuits...) was pretty fucking stupid, I was ignored.

>> No.17891814

My house burned down and now my landlord is sueing me
My insurance company is handling it but for reall landlords should all hang on DOTR

Most are utter scum

>> No.17891828

>>17891223
He's a good landlord, commie homo.

>> No.17891853

>>17891223
>>17891828
Replied to wrong post. Disregard.

>> No.17891875

I have yet to meet a property manager or landlord that wasn't lazy as fuck. They all deserve to hang

>> No.17891900

I am neither anti nor pro-landlord
But special times call for special measures. No one who has a history of paying their rent on time should be evicted just because they are out of work during this shit show.
Yes, I understand that the landlords have bills to pay to. But this is where a decent government would step in and find a satisfactory solution to both keep people with a roof over their heads and keep landlords from being forced to shut off utilities.
Am I not being reasonable here?
I assure you I am not a commie. Landlords should be able to charge people whatever the fuck they want and be ruthless about it. It’s their property. But come on, there has to be a way to help people out right now.

>> No.17891908

>>17891900
>bills to pay too*

>> No.17891969

>>17891900
>But come on, there has to be a way to help people out right now.
do these cunts sound like they were even fucking remotely interested in helping anyone other than themselves? They were DEMANDING rent that wasn't even fucking due - 'before you get sick, and we need to throw you out'. Deserve all the shit they'll get

>> No.17891986

As a landlord myself, if anyone tried to talk shit to me how i am valueless to society or that what i am doing is scummy then they'd get an earful. I do this because it makes me money and its easier than a 9-5.

>> No.17891997

>>17891986
yeah no shit it's easy, you get money for nothing.

>> No.17892020

>>17891986
>they'd get an earful.
I have very little to lose man you give me an earful, sure okay
I'd give you a good straight assfucking

>> No.17892044
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>>17891986
I cant wait to chop your head off and present it to the screaming hordes

>> No.17892073

>>17891875
I rent through Berkshire Hathaway with an office full of "women" and I've noticed it too. My neighbor was making disgusting sounds at odd times and is still being too loud. It wasn't until I talked about suing for contract breach that they actually responded, saying they ,m" thought it was someone else" even after they told me they owned the unit I complained about.

>> No.17892081

>>17890832
*landlets

>> No.17892089

>tfw you live in a country where if a landlord wants to evict you for late payment they have to give you 3 months time before eviction

Lmao laughing at the mutts

>> No.17892093

>>17891969
I agree, perhaps I didn’t word my post properly. I meant to say that now is the most appropriate time to show compassion possibly ever. Millions of People are tight on money right now through literally no fault of their own. I imagine that even many people who a month ago were solidly middle class are really nervous about what the fuck they’re going to do if this lasts a long time.
I think government regulation has to come into play
Demanding money from someone you know doesn’t have it through a freak “act of god” is shameful

>> No.17892115

>>17892073
>My neighbor was making disgusting sounds
Was he having loud big cums?

>> No.17892116

>>17891986
Yep. Entitled. If you were humble about it things would be different.
You don't add any value to society. You leech off of laborers. Just admit it. Is it bad? Well the fact that you're so upset seems to point what your conscience is telling you. Why get defensive if you knew you were doing good?

>> No.17892128

>>17890710
b&r

>> No.17892134

>>17891986
From whom did you get your start-up capital and if it is generational, what is the original source?

>> No.17892139

>>17891675
If you ain't got the money for your own place what else you gonna do? You think someone will give you their house for free? Shit I'm glad there is a way out for me so I don't have to bust my ass every day like I currently do. I'm gonna buy stocks and ascend to the next social class.

>> No.17892143

>>17891283
>They know that their tenants being unable to pay means they can’t pay their own loan
Well, it looks like those landlords should have been more responsible and saved their money then, huh Millenial?

These goddamn Millenial landlords are so entitled.

>> No.17892151

>>17892115
Old boomer coughing and hacking up loogies. Sounds like he's dying. But he'd do it for hours starting at like 3 am to like 8 or 9 am. He does it less now but now he seems to have put on boots and walks around seemingly aimlessly. Spends a whole lot of time in his bathroom too. Sounds like he tries to listen to what I'm doing sometimes. Don't like him at all.

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17892153

after the fall

>> No.17892158

>>17890632
if we have social breadown we get the chance to kill all these jews

>> No.17892159

>>17891997
You have to tie a shitton of money in a thing that can lose a lot of its value. Investing profits are not "free".

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Holy shit their reviews are getting torn up. The owner of the properties deleted her linkedin too hahahahaha fuck these faggot slumlords

>> No.17892164

>>17891586
kys. being in a position of power doesnt automatically make you scum, although it does tend to reveal the character of the individual

>> No.17892168

>>17890632
It'd sure be a shame if their tenants started giving them bad reviews for being shit fucks and no one ever wanted to rent from them again
https://www.manta.com/d/mtmlshz/cognata-properties-lc

>> No.17892170

>>17891900
They are landlords because they hate people and want to take advantage of them.

>know that people need somewhere to live and will not leave until the lease is up, so they can abuse and ignore tenants as much as they please (without egregiously breaking the law)
>regulated industry so they do the bare legal minimum in every situation
>when something is broken, either A) use a family member who is a GC to do the bare minimum B) hire wetbacks to do it bare minimum C) try to fix it themselves bare minimum
>increase rent with no improvements or changes to property
>cover up issues between tenants instead of fixing; put burden of proof on visual inspection by tenant on move-in
>demand rent on the exact day it's due; complete lack of timeliness on communication or repairs
>will not fix anything after hours / weekends due to increased rates; your personal discomfort on your time off is none of their concern, sleep without AC for their bottom line

I've yet to meet a landlord that treated it like a business rather than a wealth extraction mechanism. It's like a shady corner cutting Chinese restaurant was in charge of your living situation.

>> No.17892179

>>17892163
Based.

>> No.17892184

>>17892159
oh so you agree you're not actually doing anything, just owning something

>> No.17892187

>>17890710
Hello based department?

>> No.17892193

>>17890632
BASED not caring about your fellow countryman! BASED MAGA BASED!

>> No.17892197

>>17891727
Sounds pretty based

>> No.17892201

>>17892170
So buy your own place.

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>>17891698
without you they'd be able to afford to buy their own place

I get that it's capitalism etc and it's easy money but don't make out like landlords are these entrepreneurial saints who add genuine value to the economy, because they don't.

Also
>modest fee
In these low interest times mortgages are much cheaper than rents

>> No.17892208

>>17891726
underrated

>> No.17892210

>>17892151
Holy shit. He sounds like me. If he's me there's also loud big cums. That's probably what the bathroom time is.

>> No.17892213

>>17892159
That's called taking on risk, not adding value to a society. Big difference. In fact, since your so sure of yourself, shoot me your property's website so we can talk and see if you're lying or not.

>> No.17892219

Big brain advice here to small minded landlords:

>Be understanding but firm landlord
>have good tenants that you credit and pay checked
>Be understanding if a tenant cannot make rent if he/she shows proof and has an no bs story
>Run rent payments through an automatic deductions process (why the f are Americans not doing this?)
>Profit and satisfied non-revanchist tennants leading to less damage to the property

It isn't hard, you know.

>> No.17892222

>>17891283
like what nigga

>> No.17892228

sounds kinda cucky to buy a house, and then letting other people live and fuck on it. doesn't that seem like a cuckold letting people fuck his wife?

>> No.17892235

>>17890632
Lol fucking Jews, man.

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heres your revolutionary vanguard bro

>> No.17892239

>>17892201
Not everyone can do this.
In order to have more buying power, without being given it, one must prove to lenders that they are willing to slave first. The barrier of entry continues to increase for many. You are so out of touch and mentally deficient it is actually pitiful.

>> No.17892249

>>17891698
>modest fee
Considering the fact that in my country domestic and foreign investors buy up all properties ramping up prices this bs-meme can fuck right off

>> No.17892250

>>17892163
Can we hate on these shitbags without going full blown commie please?

>> No.17892262
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>>17890632
Do Americans really?
Here in straya (& yurop for that matter) once you are a tenant you can not pay rent and you CANNOT be kicked out for 6 months

>> No.17892266

>>17890710
absolutely BASED

>> No.17892277

>>17890632
Nobody would dare to post this nowadays without expecting social media to whine like retards, specially from morons like reddit or twitter.

FAKE AND GAY.

>> No.17892278

>>17892210
Idk but if he keeps up I might just get a megaphone.

>>17892219
This should be common sense but it isn't.

>> No.17892279

>>17892262
>you CANNOT be kicked out for 6 months
My euro country three months unfortunately, but we also have a lot of social housing

>> No.17892292
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Benjamin and Amy Cognata demand next month's rent payment in advance (because they have no savings, two new luxury vehicles, multiple mortgages on overvalued properties, and are about to file for bankruptcy in 6 months)

What do you say to them?

>> No.17892293

>>17890710
based

>> No.17892301
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17892301

God damn they are so FUCKED. Cognata is all over twitter and their facebook is now dumpstered. I love this shit.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cognata?src=hashtag_click

>> No.17892303

>>17892239
The laws of nature are oppressing you. Boo hoo.

>> No.17892310

>>17892292
>Dealing with private landlords of the "mom&pop" kind
Oh I am laffing, it is all big corps now that represent the interests of mister Kalim Al Afhardr

>> No.17892315

>>17892303
>renting
>law of nature
lmao

>> No.17892317

>>17892250
>Can we hate on these shitbags without going full blown commie please?
I literally do not care how anyone in this country makes money as long as it's not by being a slumlord. Landlords are the fucking worst people on this planet and they all deserve death. You can profit off of selling toilet paper or even selling the cure to the fucking black plague for all i care, but landlords are quite literally the devil. Fuck communism and fuck landlords.

>> No.17892318

>>17891698
>a modest fee
Go fuck yourself. If you live anywhere that's near a single building of relevance, your living space jumps up to thousands of dollars monthly. If you live out in the middle of the sticks with literally nothing to your name, no potential industry with which to advance your position in life, and no adjacency to even basic government positions, you are still looking at hundreds monthly just for a landlord to collect the check, complain about the property, and go home. As a homeowner who presently owns two properties (one in Los Angeles for business, one in Nevada for everything else), the amount of money I lost in rent has made me resent slumlord parasites like yourselves and I will always treat you as scum. If this economic collapse actively turns into Mad Max style apocalyptic madness, your kind are the first I'm butchering.

>> No.17892320

>>17892292
He will have to make cuck porn for an income from now on

>> No.17892326

>>17892203
>without you they'd be able to afford to buy their own place
Literal retard.
>don't make out like landlords are these entrepreneurial saints who add genuine value to the economy, because they don't.
So building, repairing and maintaining appartments and houses is not adding value to the market?

>> No.17892336

Hating landlords is not a left/right issue. I am a full 1488 Jew hating nazi, but I still think landlords should be anally raped with barbed wire baseball bats.

Profiting off of the human need for shelter is utterly criminal and inhumane. Only Zion don supporting magafaggots would think otherwise.

>> No.17892344

>>17891698
I mean this, genuinely, seriously, and with all honesty; go kill yourself.

>> No.17892346
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>>17892301
Self predicated destruction. Big oof. Someone should send it to the gubmint hahahahah

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>>17891986
>i'm not valueless
>I do this because it makes me money and it's easy

>> No.17892367

>>17892143
>landlords are so entitled
Dumbass, they took out a mortgage/bought the damn place and you think they're entitled for wanting you to stick to the terms you agreed to? People won't just give you shit for free anon, excluding the government of course which just does that to buy votes. Is it really so unreasonable to charge someone to live in a house you own and paid for? Fuck you're one entitled cunt if you think that.

>> No.17892371

>>17891650
They set up community courts and tried every landlord one by one. Some were executed, others forced into labor, other were left alone (minus their properties).

>> No.17892384

>>17892303
Hahahah. Renting is unnatural. You exhibit signs of mental retardation. Good day.

>>17892326
No. You are providing a service and leeching off of societal growth UNLESS that money goes to the advancement of the society's inhabitants (yeah show me where that is often the case).

>> No.17892387

>>17892326
>So building, repairing and maintaining appartments and houses is not adding value to the market?
1. implying landlords do that to even a remotely satisfying degree, let alone one that reflects the rent paid
2. explain why there needs to be a middle man doing this when they tenants could simply do it themselves collectively (inb4 impossible, it happens occasionally)

>> No.17892405

>>17892292
Pick yourself up by the bootstraps

>> No.17892417

>>17892367
>Dumbass, they took out a mortgage/bought the damn place
This is objectively not true for most landlords.
Most are large corporations that frustrate the local housing markets by lobbying politicians who make zoning laws in their favour and not ruin their defacto monopoly. If everyone could just pop-up and say "hi I am a landlord with competitive pricing" there would be a better practice standard. But this is just not true in any place of relevance.

>> No.17892435

>>17892336
Even from and economic POV they are nothing but a parasitic drain, just like finance landlords produce nothing, hence add nothing to economic output. They are entirely unnecessary to society.

>> No.17892445

>>17892326
>repairing & maintaining
Lol that's a good one

>> No.17892449

>>17892317
Ok so me and my fiancee who both worked hard while we were single both bought a house on our own and now we are gonna move into one together so what should we do with our other house? Rent it!

>> No.17892450

>>17892326
>building
Almost zero landlords actually build the properties they own. They just inherit or purchase older properties and slightly modify them for the sake of driving up the price of sales.
>repairing and maintaining
What are you talking about? Landlords always charge their tenants for damages and always demand tenants fix issues using their own avenues. These are never problems that Landlords actively have to sacrifice in order to resolve.

>> No.17892478

>>17892292
Next time, pick an occupation you are good at.

>> No.17892501

>>17892449
I just hope your fiance isn't pregnant when you're both dragged from your home kicking, screaming, & crying before being hanged from the nearest light post

>> No.17892504

>>17892449
Sell it. Houses are something to live in, not a fucking investment. And this is coming from someone that has a lot more money than you.

>> No.17892505

>>17892318
UNBELIEVABLY BASED

>> No.17892510

>>17890632
This is some amateur jewing. Dumb boomer jew probably read about evictions being suspended due to the pandemic, panicked, and is trying to get the money up front in case the state won't enforce evictions later. This is in spite of the fact that their own financial obligations would also be suspended in that scenario, so it's pure, petty greed.

>> No.17892513

>>17892371
>left alone
if you agreed to leave the country and never return - the reason there are so many first gen Chinese overseas was because a lot of them used to be in the landlord category and got kicked out

>> No.17892518

Landlords are coping hard in this thread. Tick tock

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>>17892501
Based as fuck.

>> No.17892536

>>17891156
It's South Carolina, I imagine they can get away with all sorts of shit.

>> No.17892539

>>17892222
Underrated niggaposter.

>> No.17892543

>>17890661

>landlord
>taking care of tenants

Lol

>> No.17892553

>>17892449
>>>>>>17892219

>> No.17892562

>>17891158
This really varies considerably state to state. In the south, where this company is from, it really is not that hard.

Also, you can harass people and lie about how all their shit is going to get thrown out and make up all these fees to scare them in the looser states and get away with it.

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>>17890710
bASED

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>>17890632
>We know you're all about to default on a lot of your obligations so make sure that we get ours before anyone else does, wagies

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17892614

Leftypol found their back door subversion with this topic, huh?

Good for them! They needed a win after 100 years of total failure.

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>>17891698
>a modest fee

>> No.17892677

>>17892614
I never understand communists' failure to see that citing just a couple of assholes is not a justification to overthrow an otherwise least-bad system for one that failed to be implemented multiple times.

>> No.17892691

>>17892614
>making fun of tactless small time boomer landlords is literally communism

>> No.17892695
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>>17892153

>> No.17892715

>>17892318
>owns two homes
>thinks he'll be spared on the day of the purge
Nice try, bougie

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>>17892677
>dont change anything goy, we just so happened to already live in the least worst system :^)
pure ideology

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>>17892163
>"Maoist land reform is preferable"

>> No.17892742

>>17892691
See>>17892715 &>>17892695
LOL

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>> No.17892754

>>17892719
Bruv as a yuropean you can take your social engineering and put it way up inside your asshole.

>> No.17892758

>>17892677
>Western imperialism
>least-bad system
Choose one.

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>> No.17892778

>>17892742
>someone made mean posts on 4chan
god this place is so gay these days

>> No.17892781

>>17892677
your 'least-bad system' has probably done more to contribute to the falling white birthrate than any other single factor. Literally, making an entire fuckingrace extinct. If this is least worst, I'd hate to see your worst-worst

>> No.17892782

>>17892742
I'm a geolibertarian, but thanks for playing

>> No.17892785

>>17892715
That CA house can burn for all I care. An $800,00+ investment that's only been used for working to make my kike CEO richer. I encourage whatever anon finds it to pillage the fucker empty and steal whatever documents and furnishings they find when the day of reckoning comes. Just leave my NV house alone. I have too many pets to allow some looter to hurt, and I'm eviscerating whatever clown tries to break in to hurt them.

>> No.17892789

>>17892758
>Revancist postcolonial state
>A working nation
Pick one and only one

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>> No.17892800

>>17892742
>taking shitposts seriously
>standing up for retarded small time landlords
found the boomer

>> No.17892802

>>17892719
Blaming a car for not working after it's owner abuses it.
I think most landlords SEEM scummy but wanting handouts and trusting the gubmint to not be corrupt is even dumber than letting landlords run somewhat amok.

>> No.17892809

>>17892781
This is a fucking meme pushed by neo-liberal muh immigrant labour bs. Most nations, even Japan, are well above replacement rate. Not to mention that human population growth is

>> No.17892814

>>17892789
Vietnam is doing far better now post-communism than during pre-communist imperialism. Communism as a form of government is a meme, but as a form of revolution and change, it's hard to beat.

>> No.17892829

>>17892778
Nice strawman

Nobody said anything about them being "mean".

He denied there was a leftypol op itt, and I pointed out the very next two posts after his that confirmed there was.

>> No.17892835

>>17892809
The population of Japan has literally been in decline for the last decade

>> No.17892843

>>17892417
Except what I said is true. How do you think these corporations buy these properties and apartments? They take out loans or buy them outright dumbass. There are multiple competitors in the housing rental market. The reason housing is so expensive is because of the Fed's fiscal policies. I agree that laws governing renting should be relaxed but how the fuck do you think they acquire these properties if they don't take out loans to buy them/buy them outright? They're either taking on risk in the form of debt or spending their capital directly to own these properties (it's almost always through loans).

>> No.17892847

>>17892809
>Most nations, even Japan, are well above replacement rate
you fucking wot m8
the replacement rate is 2.1 children, anything less is not enough (only make sense as it takes two people to have children, need at least 2 to replace them + a little extra to cover untimely deaths)

>> No.17892851

>>17892781
>probably done more to contribute to the falling white birthrate than any other single factor.
This is a fucking meme pushed by neo-conservative muh cheap labour types pushing immigration. The birthrate in the west and even in Japan is above replacement rate. Not to mention that the growth of the human population is already slowing and projected to level out when it is 2050

>> No.17892856

>>17892809
Most nations, even Japan, are well above replacement rate.
They are at 1.44.
Replacement is somewhere over 2.
This isn't even worthy of reply

>> No.17892863

>>17892829
I'm not leftypol, I was just joking because one guy was complaining about landlords while he owned multiple properties himself. But landlords are generally parasites, as are all monopolists of natural resources.

>> No.17892871

>>17892814
>Vietnam is doing far better now post-communism than during pre-communist imperialism.
>Looks at South Korea, Japan, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong

lel

>> No.17892875

You don't need to be a leftard to hate scum sucking parasitic landlords. This is the landlords last line of cope

>> No.17892887

>>17892782
>I'm a MADE UP IMPORTANT SOUNDING THING
You're a commie faggot barista who's already part time hours have been cut at Starbucks trying to win fights on 4chan.

>> No.17892896

>>17892851
AND HOW AM I 'PUSHING IMMIGRATION' YOU DENSE CUNT. I AM PUSHING 'AFFORDABLE FUCKING PLACES TO LIVE AND PRODUCE A FAMILY'. NOVEL FUCKING CONCEPT IN CURRENT YEAR, I KNOW

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>> No.17892931

>>17892835
>>17892847
>>17892856
https://japan-forward.com/mythbusters-foreign-reporting-on-the-japanese-population-and-birth-rate-reaches-a-new-low/

>> No.17892941

>>17892887
>You're a commie faggot barista who's already part time hours have been cut at Starbucks trying to win fights on 4chan.
Keep your boomer caricatures to yourself. Embarrassing.

>> No.17892952

>>17890661
t. someone who has never had to deal with a shitty landlord who gives zero fucks about your wellbeing

>>17890710
this is the appropriate response to greedy capitalists

>> No.17892962

>>17891726
kek

>> No.17892977

>>17892896
Bruv calm down. I am saying that the types pushing the low birthrate meme are using it to bring in migrants to grow the population and bring in cheap labour.

>> No.17892981

>>17892829
sir you seem to be confused, this is /biz/ and we're here to dab on boomers, kikes, niggers, and women. unironic communists are funny and therefore allowed to post, but defending boomers unironically is a capital offense

>> No.17892984

>>17891586
You will lose whatever fight you think you are fighting.

>> No.17893013

>>17890632

coronavirus is going to seriously fuck up all those airbnb speculators that have been hoarding some city property on the assumption tourism will never end

what a crying wee shame that is

>> No.17893019

>>17892931
literally all this says is that Japan is not that bad compared to most other western nations, it still agrees that is is well under the replacement rate. Which actually goes against your original point of "Japan and everyone else are doing fine" - in fact, Japan and everyone else are doing terribly.

>> No.17893020

>>17892941
Why are you white knighting for another anon? What a gay weird thing... When you're both communist dick girls, who's pitching and who's catching

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>>17890710
kek. i just pictured some sperglord literally injecting water into walls with a syringe

>> No.17893031

>>17891986
And during your earful I'd call out that you were a kulak to the vengeful mob, whereupon we could castrate you and force feed you your own testicles before having you lined up against a wall with a bunch of other kulaks and shot.

>> No.17893064

>>17892239
>Not everyone can do this.
Then wouldn't removing landlords just put them all on the streets or into government block housing(which will be no improvement on quality)?

>> No.17893066

>>17890632
How much do you all tip your landlord?

>> No.17893077

>>17892843
Okay dense moron here it goes
>Large corporation X has capital to invest and wants to diversify (or even worse, a foreign SWF or investors like Khalid Al Abdullah)
>It buys up property with said equity and prices everyone out of the market
>Due to balancing it with debt on its books it mitigates the risks for itself so practically no risks or it might even insure parts of it or throw it into a sister corporation with different investors,
>Anyway: bye bye risk
>Who the fuck uses loans anyway in the housing market nowadays wtf
>Tennants pay shitloads of money for a cardboard box close to any place of relevance
>Zoning laws and lobbying prevent competitive local supply
>Economy tanks
>Fed buys out company X because "too big to fail lelelele"

>> No.17893107

>>17890632
literally illegal for them to evict you right now. fuck him

>> No.17893144

>>17893019
You didnt even read the article properly, also:

"Any country such as Japan with a large proportion of post-menopausal women will inherently have a lower birth rate than one where women die relatively young. Countries such as India and China that have an unnaturally large proportion of males in the population will also have a distorted crude birth rate."

And it also does not refer to my original post which was about leftypol wanting to become communist because of a couple of assholes.

>> No.17893146

>>17893020
Definitely a boomer

>> No.17893156

>>17892367
Lmao you're so salty.

Come and take it, parasite. Have a coof coof while you're at it, faggot.

>> No.17893189

>>17893066
I don't tip except holidays because our rent clause has prima noctis and the landlord gets to fuck any girls we date before we do or we can be evicted.

Sucks I know, but better than socialism amirite?

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How are pod shares doing in this mess?

>> No.17893220

>>17893189
>because our rent clause has prima noctis and the landlord gets to fuck any girls we date before we do or we can be evicted
Royalists get the rope.

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>>17893146
Do boomers even know communist transsexuals like you exist?

>> No.17893240

>>17893193
wtf is this?

>> No.17893265

>>17893144
No, I read the article.
Also your quote distorts the issue - a healthy, growing population has an age distribution that is big at the bottom (young) and small at the top (old). Countries with stagnating or declining populations (like Japan and most western nations) have this distribution inverted, big at the top and small at the bottom. Sure, Japan has more post-menopausal women than countries with populations that are overall younger, but that's precisely the issue - it's an aging population. Saying "oh they're just old" to explain low birthrates is explaining the problem backwards - because of low birthrates, the overall population gets older.

And again, article does not disagee with this. Its issue is with the distorted view presented by certain western outlets compared to the situation in western nations.

>> No.17893269

>>17893240
It's a thing in California. Like 2k a month to rent the bed, mandatory that you be social.

>> No.17893273

>>17893013
>>17893193
every cloud having a silver lining, thats two in quick succession. Hadn't considered either of these being completely fucked over till now. Shame.

>> No.17893301

>>17890632
Now there's a guy whose going to get dragged into an alley and recycled in a dumpster

>> No.17893306

>>17893265
>Its issue is with the distorted view presented by certain western outlets compared to the situation in western nations.
exactly

>> No.17893307

>>17893107
they're trying to get their tenants to pay before the govt implements a rent holiday

>> No.17893310

>>17890710
holy baste

>> No.17893325

>>17893306
But the core problem doesn't change just because certain outlets say the situation in Japan is worse than in the west. It's terrible both there and here.

>> No.17893326

>>17893269
Okay what would be a non meme price for this?

>> No.17893353

>>17893239
He's retreating further into fantasy. Definitely demented

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>>17893269
2k? For a bed?

That's 33% higher than the rent I pay for a 2 bedroom apartment, that can't be right, what is happening?

>> No.17893407

>>17893326
Realistically speaking probably similar to whatever pod hotels charge, but this is California and it's mainly used by rich millennials. Fun fact they also have q service where you pay $500 a month for a desk to work at. They are slowly making sure you cant own anything there.

>> No.17893426

>>17890782
But is your "landlord" also cutting your ration of tendies, anon?

>> No.17893427

>>17893366
It's in California.

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>>17890632
holy shit, it's not even a real apartment or house these slumlord degenerates are charging for. check out the fucking dwelling.

>> No.17893439

>>17893407
>Fun fact they also have q service where you pay $500 a month for a desk to work at.
Yeah I saw this in my country too, but around 400 even though I can work from any coffee shop or (community) college for free

>> No.17893445

>>17893432
woahh
is this fucking real?

>> No.17893463

>>17893353
We're all demented down here. Are you really that new? I'm not mad at you though. Even communist faggots that want to chop their dicks off and are definitely going to kill themselves upon realizing they'll never pass are welcome here on /biz/. We're all frens!

>> No.17893498

>>17893445
lmao yes, from their fb. look up cognata properties. this is what they're charging for HAHAHHA. guillotine these fucking rent seekers now.

>> No.17893522

>>17892336
possibly first time i've ever agreed with a nazi, racebased and jewpilled.

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Evictions usually take 6 months to enforce so I’ll save rent for the next place for half a year, Jew.

>> No.17893556

>>17892501
Its ok because this won't ever happen

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>>17891586

You will never be mentally or physically healthy. You will never have rewarding relationships with your family. You will never have meaningful friendships with anyone who wouldn't yank you back down in a heartbeat if you secured a single hand or foot on a rung above them. You will never find fulfilling employment or succeed in a business venture. You will never have any power or influence. You will never see your dreams for this world realized.

You will sit, wherever you live (in your apartment, I'm guessing), making grandiose threats about what you're going to do to all the people you hate and you'll never get to do any of them.

Because you're weak. You have a high time preference and low agency. Your every action is sad and unreadable. You'll never accomplish your goals because you're not the sort of person who can accomplish things that require discipline, forethought or sacrifice.

You think you chose your political ideology. It chose you.

>> No.17893588

Yall should be happy landlords let you live in their place

>> No.17893614

>>17893578
I like you.

>> No.17893628
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>NOOOO YOU CANT JUST GO AND BUY AND MAINTAIN A PROPERTY AND RENT IT OUT LIKE THAT YOU SHOULD MAKE IT FREE

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>>17892450
Landlord story time
>be me
>poorfag barely not virgin
>never earn more than $14k in a year
>decide i want to move out of my parents house and be a landlord
>miraculously find a retiring landlord in 2014 that is willing to seller finance a duplex that needs work
>every other house on block in forclosure, decide its worth the risk and sign contract
>beg for and borrow money for raw materials
>fix and repair property for next 6 month by myself after work because poorfag that cant afford repairmen
>find tenant for one apartment, move into the other
>cool i can do this
>find a second property in town, a real disaster
>boarded up windows
>copper plumbing all stolen
>wiring from the 1930s
>fuck it, buy it in auction for real cheap, with money i didnt have
>scramble to borrow money for payment
>spend next two years fixing the property, by myself after work
>now the most beautiful brick victorian on the block
>also a duplex, so get two more tenants
>now working on fixing up third building, this one was boarded up for 10 years
>2 years into fixing it up, when finished i can live a lower middle class lifestyle with income from 6 tenants, without having to rely on a regular job

Anybody who tries to take away what i have built with my own two hands is going to catch lead. I treat my tenants extremely well, still have my original tenant at her origional rental rate 6 years later. If you have shit experience with landlords, it could be bad luck, or more likely you are a shit candidate for quality landlords who can have their pick of good renters.

tl/dr Lefty/pol/ can suck my cock

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>>17890632
Good thing mommy can let you guys live in the basement rent free if you ask nicely. Oh I guess you already are.

>> No.17893653

>>17892164
>>17891726
>>17893578
>>17892984
You really don't seem to fucking understand what he is implying here you larping faggots. Do you honstly believe if these people cannot afford to pay for rent during the coronavirus this stupid faggot is going to call the cops? All the tenets will come to fucking remove your fucking head KIKE!

>> No.17893674

>>17890941
this, I really don't care about quick money making scams are whatever, but collecting rent makes you scum

>> No.17893677

>>17893653
They aren't going to do this lol.

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>>17890710
>>17893024

>> No.17893705

>>17891986
>or that what i am doing is scummy
>"it makes me money and its easier than a 9-5"

>> No.17893708

>>17893628
No, you shouldn't own a home if you dont plan to live in it.

>> No.17893712

>>17893644
Based. I’m sorry you’re gonna lose all that hard work in the lootings next month.

>> No.17893720

>>17892163
Mark Smith is the only legitimate "review" on here. The rest is equivalent to chink whining when they find a "China bad" moment in a game they bought or its developer's tweets.

>> No.17893738

>>17893644
Why not sell the homes instead of renting? Why should your one act of productivity result in perpetual profits?

>> No.17893751

>>17893644
man shut the fuck up, just because you've got some bullshit rags to riches landlord larp doesn't mean the majority of landlords worked hard and are good people (maybe 5 percent are cool), they're mostly fucking leeches. i've stayed in apts with rats crawling on my bed and the boiler raining through the ceiling, and still didn't get a rent discount, apology or repair, it went on for 3 months. my current place has black mould, mice and a drug dealing rasta neighbour who's threatened to cut my tongue out, do the landlords care? no. do they respond do my calls or emails? no. moral of the story, you're all fucking scum and deserve to rot.

>> No.17893753

>>17890632
I would shit. Everywhere.
Shit in the halls.
Shit in the staircases.
Shit in the parking garage.
Just shit

>> No.17893759

>>17893677
lol if the landlord is harassing a tenet like this during a fucking crisis it will anger everyone. Even if they paid. I'd stomp your ass for trying to take advantage of people during a fucking national crisis.

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>>17893614

>> No.17893776

>>17893738
>Why should your one act of productivity result in perpetual profits?
Because humans are naturally greedy and risk avoidant. This is what the communist cannot understand.

>> No.17893777

>>17891698
Lol this is bait.

>> No.17893782

>>17893770
:33

>> No.17893784

>>17890859
“pls respond”

>> No.17893788

>>17893759
No you wouldn't

>> No.17893790

>>17893776
Actually, humans are naturally cooperative.

>> No.17893805

>>17893578
have sex

>> No.17893866

>>17893790
Yes, in addition to being greedy and risk avoidant.

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>>17893759

Sorry but, like I said earlier, you'll do nothing.

>Ah, bruh, people will be like so angry they'll go an STOMP on their heads

No, they won't. I'll explain this again because you didn't get it before. The very reason you occupy the ideological space you do is because you're the sort of person who waits for others to do things for him/her. Or demands they do. You have low agency.

Your. Political. Ideology. Chose. *You.*

>> No.17893879

>>17890632

Based

>> No.17893883

>>17892201
Mommy daddy did it for me yeehee.

>> No.17893899

>>17892219
>(why the f are Americans not doing this?)
They own the property and dont want to pay taxes on the rent.

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>>17893805

Continue not having kids.

>> No.17893946

>>17892292
>(because they have no savings, two new luxury vehicles, multiple mortgages on overvalued properties, and are about to file for bankruptcy in 6 months)
Enjoy the streets I guess.

>> No.17893962

>>17893899
>dont want to pay taxes on the rent.
Hmm challenging the IRS...
Bold

>> No.17893989

>>17892449
Sell it or rent it for very cheap.
There problem solved.

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>>17893712
Nah, im good with both the local police force, have friends who are armed, and i am armed myself. People mostly loot commercial stores, in ghettos. I dont operate commercial properties, none of my properties are visibly rentals, or in the ghetto, and all my tenants like me.

>>17893738
Because 140 year old houses require continual maintenance, and many people are irresponsible, leading to wrecked houses that nobody but people like me wants to buy.

>>17893751
Ah sucks for you bro, you should move. All my tenants have my personal cellphone number and can call me 24/365.

You all have my sympathy by the way, this nation has been fucked. There used to be safe working poor neighborhoods, then came the fair housing act and a whole bunch of other federal and state intervention and that all went away. Their used to be more options for affordable renting, they have been outlawed for the most part or made impossible to build more through regulation, like boarding houses and mobile homes.

>> No.17894031

>>17892809
Wrong.

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Curious what the anti-landlord retards would prefer?

Commie blocks? Or South American favelas and slums?

>> No.17894042

>>17890710
based

>> No.17894060

>>17894017
>There used to be safe working poor neighborhoods, then came the fair housing act and a whole bunch of other federal and state intervention and that all went away.
And the 13 percent...

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>>17893738
>Why not sell the homes instead of renting? Why should your one act of productivity result in perpetual profits?

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>>17893877
>you'll do nothing.
And you will? BTW I really enjoy the reddit spacing.
>No, they won't.
Actually yes they will specially when things get bad enough. Some jewish landlord against a group of tenets being shit on because the kike cant get his monthly shekels as everyone in the country is dealing with economic hardships. Don't worry m8 the harder you push the harder the backlash. Can't wait for the day of the rope!
>Your. Political. Ideology. Chose. *You.*
YOU don't even know what you are even saying here. Larping off as some kinda 12yr old nu/pol/ faggot. Well buddy I'm natsoc lets see how long you last when reality hits you.
>>17893788
yes, yes i would. Just because you are a fucking coward doesn't mean others are.

>> No.17894278

>>17893708

Thanks boss. You also shouldn’t grow food unless you plan to eat it, shouldn’t build a car unless it’s for yourself, etc

>> No.17894281

>>17894034
I used to work as a glazier and one of our common clients was a commie commune. A dozen or so families pooled their money and built a complex with two apartment towers on a lot with a nice court and some green with shit for the kids, very comfy. We installed a bunch of mirrors and glass shower cabins, really nice homes. There was no need for a landlord, running costs like taxes were divided fairly by home space (the apartments were all designed in roughly the same shape, but some minor customisations took place) and whatever else was necessary in terms of maintenance or repairs was voted on in monthly meetings and shit.

At the end of the day, landlords are leeches because they don't do anything that the tennants couldn't do themselves. They say they maintain the place, but do they really? Most landlords just call someone else to do it for them, why can't tennants do that?

Homes are for living. They shouldn't be an investment.

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17894284

>>17894034
I prefer a anti-ZOG whites helping fellow whites instead of trying to do nothing but grind white men into nothing more then economic units.

>> No.17894317

>>17894281

Then they should buy their own fucking homes retard. This a huge country.

>> No.17894326

>>17894317
Cool, when are the landlords selling?

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>>17894281
>Most landlords just call someone else to do it for them, why can't tennants do that?
because most tenants don't want to be locked into a place for years and want the flexibility to move for various reasons. Commune brings all sorts of liability issues

landlords serve the same purpose as a restaurant, they provide a service and keep some profit. Sure it would be cheaper to butcher a raw cow, store it, cook it, etc. But most people are willing to pay for the convenience of a quick meal

Most of the problems related to modern housing could be solved by banning foreign buyers laundering money via real estate and taxing non-residents sitting on empty real estate

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>>17890632
>tfw landlord
Don't care how many kids ya got, you pay or get the hell out.
The American way. Commies stay away.

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>>17890632
Daily reminder Thomas Paine was right.

>There could be no such thing as landed property originally. Man did not make the earth, and though he had a natural right to occupy it, he had no right to locate as his property in perpetuity any part of it: neither did the Creator of the earth open a land-office from whence the first title-deeds should issue

>Nothing could be more unjust than Agrarian Law in a country improved by cultivation; for though every man, as an inhabitant of the earth, is a joint proprietor of it in its natural state, it does not follow that he is a joint proprietor of cultivated earth

>Cultivation is, at least, one of the greatest natural improvements ever made by human invention. It has given to created earth a ten-fold value. But the landed monopoly that began with it has produced the greatest evil. It has dispossessed more than half the inhabitants of every nation of their natural inheritance, without providing for them, as ought to have been done, as an indemnification for that loss, and has thereby created a species of poverty and wretchedness that did not exist before.

http://earthsharingdevon.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Agrarian-Justice-5-5-17-Print.pdf

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>>17894388
not logical to kick them out that quickly though, even from a purely financial perspective. Odds are they will pay it back soon and finding a decent tenant could take months

even a heartless landlord would give solid tenants a pass in this kind of situation

>> No.17894452

>>17894377
Except restaurant owners generally do something. Most can't afford to pay themselves a salary for doing nothing and they have way more of an incentive to actually work hard to make the restaurant nice, the food delicious, etc. because if they don't, they're out of business.
Landlords don't do anything remotely like that. Their bottom line is marginally affected by the "tennant experience", most of the time, especially on the lower of the spectrum, the tennants are unable and too desperate to move or fight a shitty landlord. They're exploiting human misery. Why do you think landlord stereotypes exist? Because most people only see theirs when they collect the rent, doing fuckall otherwise.

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17894459

>>17890941
cool it with the antisemitism

>> No.17894472

>>17894326

There are homes all over the place available for cheap

>> No.17894507

>>17890710
Yep just go through the holes made by picture frames and wall mounted stuff

>> No.17894511
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>>17893578
>reddit spacing
>alt reddit ideology

>> No.17894523
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>>17890632
Daily reminder: Thomas Paine was right.

>There could be no such thing as landed property originally. Man did not make the earth, and though he had a natural right to occupy it, he had no right to locate as his property in perpetuity any part of it: neither did the Creator of the earth open a land-office from whence the first title-deeds should issue

>Nothing could be more unjust than Agrarian Law in a country improved by cultivation; for though every man, as an inhabitant of the earth, is a joint proprietor of it in its natural state, it does not follow that he is a joint proprietor of cultivated earth

>Cultivation is, at least, one of the greatest natural improvements ever made by human invention. It has given to created earth a ten-fold value. But the landed monopoly that began with it has produced the greatest evil. It has dispossessed more than half the inhabitants of every nation of their natural inheritance, without providing for them, as ought to have been done, as an indemnification for that loss, and has thereby created a species of poverty and wretchedness that did not exist before.

http://earthsharingdevon.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Agrarian-Justice-5-5-17-Print.pdf

>> No.17894552

>>17894459
That's a great headline.

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17894615

>>17890710
Baste

>> No.17894637

>>17894511
You couldn't identify yourself as an interloper any more blaringly than attempting to identify someone who thinks the way WE do as an outsider.

Nigger tongue my anus

>> No.17894672

>>17894637
>larping
>unwarranted self-importance
>armchair psychologist
>taking the internet too seriously
reddit or perpetual newfag, take your pick

>> No.17894697

>>17894452
they don't throw diners out mid-meal when another customer offers $5 more for their table either

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>>17894637
>WE

>> No.17894728

>>17893265
Basically just wait for the Boomer Remover to remove the boomers then everythings gucci

>> No.17894737
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>>17892355
kek n check

>> No.17894786

>>17893556
All it takes is for one person to have that final straw put on their back

>> No.17894823

>>17890661
Being this naive

>> No.17894855

>>17892326
You don't do any of that faggot, you pay some other people to do it and have none of the certifications or experience necessary to check the quality of their work. You passively inject capital into a system that produces more capital and assume everything within is functioning as expected. This is retarded right on the face of it and you should kill yourself promptly, thanks for reading.

>> No.17894944

Now I want to see a gif of based chadlord kicking out wagies to die on the street

>> No.17894954
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>>17894855

How can you be such a myopic woman about what amounts to a simple active investment vehicle. Property owners pay taxes, mortgages, insurance, and upkeep which can include shit like a $15k roof, $3k water heater, or $2k+ busted pipe. Does your average tenant have $5,000 laying around for when something disastrous happens to their property? No. Fuck you, fucking worm brained retard. They aren’t hosting you in a goddamned tent from Wal-Mart, it’s a highly expensive piece of property that even THEY don’t really own (the state can seize it at will).

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>>17890710

>> No.17895044

>>17894786
Too bad you'll still be poor

>> No.17895053

>>17894954
> it’s a highly expensive piece of property
ah yes of course we should all be grateful to the landlords who own shit like >>17893432
They paid a lot of money for it you know :)

>> No.17895094

>>17895053

That’s a fantastic straw man. You found the worst landlord in the entire country and have based a thread’s worth of argument off of them, good for you. Everyone lives in a run down trailer ran by psychos who harass their tenants for rent a month ahead of time.

>> No.17895131

>>17894954
That's nice. I had a pipe burst a few months ago. The ll wrapped some duct tape around it and said its good to go. Still leaks and now there's black mold everywhere. Complained about the mold and he said it's my fault for not drying the bathroom after use and I probably won't get my deposit. Most landlords try to maximize profits while minimizing expenses--expenses being upkeep.
>B-but not all-
Yeah, I don't care about the one altruistic ll that magically cares about tenets, is underanding, and somehow is charging below market rate. Pattern recognition is inbuilt into humans. Suck a dick

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17895133

>>17890710
*AHEM*

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>>17890710
Goddamn son

>> No.17895164

>>17895044
I may be poor, but the memory of the two of you & your fiance dancing from a string will last a lifetime. And that's what really counts, I'm all about having meaningful experiences.

>> No.17895167

>>17893776
if this is true then why would it be a good idea to have only a few people owning massive amounts of productive power? they're obviously going to be greedy and risk avoidant and just maintain the status quo that gives them profit, at the expense of others

i swear anti-communists never actually think through this argument

>> No.17895168

>>17890632
Lol all evictions have been put on hold anyways.

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>>17890632
>Thank you for understanding

>> No.17895188

>>17895131

Even though I know you’re lying, that only hurts him and his property’s value to neglect a real repair. And if that was real you could easily file a complaint or move somewhere else. Or shit, buy your own place and have $10k constantly in the bank for when shit goes down. Be a big boy.

>> No.17895208

>>17895094
I’m sorry I didn’t know that when you said land owners you were only talking about the living saints that own the most fabulous properties available. I also didn’t know that there is only one bad landlord and that the worst they do is send a thoughtless and greedy letter

>> No.17895209

>>17891283
>imagine leveraging everything to provide housing to paycheck to paycheck millennials and then getting caught with the bag when they can't work
Lmfao.

>> No.17895229

>>17890632
Coof all over them when they try to evict you.

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17895243

Imagine defending landlords when even the father of capitalism thinks they're leeches

"The rent of land, therefore, considered as the price paid for the use of the land, is naturally a monopoly price. It is not at all proportioned to what the landlord may have laid out upon the improvement of the land, or to what he can afford to take; but to what the farmer can afford to give." — Adam Smith, An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations, Book I, Chapter XI "Of the Rent of Land"

>> No.17895253

>>17895208

Your average landlord owes something of a mortgage, usually high taxes, and pays consistent upkeep to keep it in desirable condition. That alone means they’re usually right on the margins with their rent, the payoff for them is investing their time and money in one property and hoping it appreciates. It could not. That’s what we call “risk” in investing. And not even getting into the fact that renters have the luxury of up and moving at will.

Sorry, let me know if I’m going too fast for you. I know you thought all landlords were just Scrooge McDuck cashing a fat check monthly with no stress or investment at all.

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>>17892614
Based. Leftypol cucks forever btfo

>> No.17895278

>>17895243
But if you own land, shouldn't you be allowed to rent it out? Why should the government be able to prevent me from renting out the land that I own?

>> No.17895294

>>17895278
Why should the government be able to stop me from shooting you and giving your land to people that actually use it?

>> No.17895299

>>17894452
>They're exploiting human misery.
I get that it's a shitty job but
>exploring
They chose to pay instead of moving to somewhere affordable, it's like "why is California so full? LOWER THE PRICES". People are dumb enough to pay 2k for a bed, of course these fuckers will continue to thrive.
Ideally people would move to cheaper places, and that movement would bring development as well. Instead urbanites prefer doomstacking themselves, as if trying to recreate Kowloon, and then they wonder why life is so shit.

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>>17892677
Yeah why did you overthrow traditional society and monarchy?

>> No.17895310

>>17895299
>exploiting
Fixed

>> No.17895316

>>17895255
imagine thinking communism is a moralist stance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall

>> No.17895317

>>17895253
>every landlord is just your average joe trying to make ends meet, you have to believe me goyim
Refute what this anon posted
>>17893077

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>>17894672
You seem really invested in all of this, id jew. I'm watching tv and eating nachos in between popping back in to raise your commie faggot blood pressure. Life is good and you'll never see your tranny red revolution.

>> No.17895337

>>17891650
Couldn't there just be more regulation for landlords.

>> No.17895360

>>17895324
>i care less therefore i win the conversation
you have won again by being le epic apathetic disconnected joker

>> No.17895363

>>17895324
it's called 4chanX

>> No.17895483

>>17895360
Thanks for recognizing my overwhelming victory over your gay and played out ideology and economic system despite zero effort on my part. It's just that easy.
>>17895363
I don't care what you're talking about. Smooches.

>> No.17895522
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>>17895483
maybe one day you'll grow out of your reddit tier sperging

>> No.17895570

>>17895317

It’s right there. Zoning laws and government cronyism are preventing the free market from rebutting these shit price gougers with more supply. This is a government imposed problem.

>> No.17895582

>>17895294
So now you see, behind all your ideological shell games its just violence and desire. Might makes right in this world; the strong prey on the weak. Capitalism or communism, that's just how it is.

>> No.17895589

>>17895522
God, I hope not. Imagine having to come here and take faggots like you serious? Nightmare fuel. I just laugh at you and your ideas, just like everyone in real life.

>> No.17895629

>>17895582
yeah no shit violence is the only way to enforce anything, are you underage?
at least my preferred system puts resources into the hands of people who use them, while capitalism is doomed to destroy itself

>> No.17895670

>>17895164
Except you won't do anything. Landlords get away with bullshit because tenants like yourself are incapable of managing finances. Which is why you have to rent. Landlord or not, your life will always be shit.

>> No.17895730

>>17895570
So it’s the government fault that most rental properties are owned by massive corporations that care little about they people living there? Anon you can do better than that, what happened to your smug attitude and sarcastic remarks? Weren’t you going to show me how “#notalllandlords”?

>> No.17895762

>>17895629
I say this as an ex-Marxist. Communism is simply the crystallized ideological form of the desires of poor masses. "Capitalism" is simply the crystallized ideological form of desires of the wealthy. It's natural for the poor to want to take from the rich, and it's natural for the rich to suppress the poor to prevent them from doing so. They are in "contradiction" (there you go). The reality of the situation is that they have to compromise and meet in the middle; the rich exploiting the poor only to the degree that they can get away with it. The human capacity to radicalize or drop-out of the labor force due to demoralization is already priced-in, entertainment is the new opiate of the masses.

>> No.17895763

>>17893556
It happened to 6 million people about 80 years ago.

>> No.17895833

>>17895730

Do you think anyone “cares” about you faggot? Tenants don’t “care” about their landlord, some of them fantasize about their death on Cambodian Turtle Farming forums. Corporations don’t “care”, the government doesn’t “care”, all you have is economic paradigms that should ensure fairness and competition. The issue you are describing is because of government cronyism, they have the final say. It doesn’t happen in areas without draconian oversight. As I said, worm brain. Myopic. If the leaders of the NFL said the Patriots were being given 5 wins immediately to start the season off would you fault the Patriots for eagerly taking that deal or the NFL for setting up such a fucked and backwards arrangement?

>> No.17895847

>>17895763
no it didn't but it should have

>> No.17895909

>>17895762
Capitalism with social safety nets is the compromise, and it will never be enough, the system of private ownership will continue to generate internal conflict until it boils over to a stable state. The only way to resolve that class conflict is through the abolition of class.
When labor loses its value to automation it will become very clear to people that private ownership of those automations is unsustainable and undesirable to the vast majority
after that it will be clear to people that it is socialism or barbarism

>> No.17895947

>>17895762
also as an "ex-marxist" i'm surprised you confuse ideologies like liberalism with economic systems like capitalism

>> No.17896004

>>17895833
You’ve really lost have you? Did I make you mad with that last post? I’ve never once said that anyone cared about me yet here you are making a long rabbling post while conveniently ignoring all the other points others and I brought up because “muh government cronyism”

>> No.17896149

>>17895909
I think something I realized over time is that class contradiction will not be resolved and humans naturally form into hierarchies, because all humans are not identical. The assumption that individual humans are interchangeable parts in the social machine, somehow "equivalent" to each other is a flaw in Marxism inherited from Liberalism. Even if we somehow transcend money, into a virtual world, there will be those more adept at maneuvering in that world than others. Perhaps "attention" (think views on a video online) will become the new currency, but even then some will dominate others and classes (of a sort) will exist.
>>17895947
I used "capitalism" in quotes to make conversation easier, I wasn't sure how educated you were, there's been plenty of probably underage communists raiding the board recently (yourself included?).

>> No.17896240

>>17896149
>because all humans are not identical
Exactly
The challenge is what to do with that inequality
Perhaps the answer is to group together those most similar to each other in terms of ability, culture and values

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>>17896004
See you later other anon, hope you had fun because I sure did :^)

>> No.17896295

>>17896149
You can have hierarchies in a system without class. Directly recallable, regularly rotating, term-limited leadership and council member roles. There will probably be a currency of attention even moreso in the future, but moreso the class difference would be caused by a difference in information. Being popular within a system where the means of production are commonly owned doesn't allow you to accumulate power beyond what people choose to give. Information (software/data/journalism) is the agent of value in a society where automation can perform intelligent labor, and information is much easier to spread than physical/financial capital.

>> No.17896312

>>17890710
Shut off the breaker and cut the house wiring behind the drywall. You know how much it costs to rewire a house.

>> No.17896334

>>17896240
pea brain boy can only find identity in tribalism

>> No.17896342

>>17896295
Sounds like utopianism to me.
This world is a fractal of pleasure and pain; there is no escape.

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>>17896342
doomers like you should unironically kill themselves instead of inflicting their pessimism on people who care about life
utopianism is only bad if you're a moron who isn't scientific about it

>> No.17896452

>>17896387
I'm not a doomer, I'm True Neutral.
Build castles in the sky if you wish.

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>>17896452
alright bud. enjoy your life

>> No.17896686

O vey

>> No.17896794

>I worked really hard to have daddy but me this 1.5 million dollar house! Give me half your paycheck every month!

Literally my landlord

>> No.17896844

>>17890853
Fuck off back to r*ddit with your social justice crap.