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tfw weekend edition

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>>17788478

>> No.17790767

First for fuck niggers and FUCK TRIPFAGS

>> No.17790769
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17790769

soon

>> No.17790788

>>17790767
yeah im thinking this is based

>> No.17790792
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>> No.17790798
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ITS HA PENNING!!

>> No.17790810

So is the market in a bubble right now? What could cause it to burst? I have a lot to live for so I want to be ready when things all go down hill.

>> No.17790822
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>INTC +20%
Where is this anon? >>17771911

>> No.17790833

>>17790810
are you posting from february m8

>> No.17790835
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>>17790810
Is this question from three weeks ago?

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Is anyone playing XOM or BP now or waiting until Q1 earnings or the June OPEC meeting?

Looking to go long in my IRA

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>>17790810

>> No.17790851

>>17790798
>Data as of 4:59pm ET

When do futures actually start trading again?

>> No.17790860
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>arises from the wuhan ashes

>> No.17790867

The government's going to keep on slipping on banana peels again and again and again.

If you want a COVID-19 test right now in Texas there's not one place you could go. The Texan government has announced plans for three (keep this in mind, just three) drive-thru testing sites that will be functional in ... 'the coming weeks'.

By the time they are functional there will be so many infected and displaying symptoms they will be effectively useless. Imagine just having three McDonald's drive-thrus in an 268,597 mi2 State and everyone just wakes up one day and needs a cheeseburger.

Still no sick leave guarantees. Still no bereavement leave guarantees. Still no FMLA guarantees for part-time workers that need to take care of their family.

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Is Monday gonna kill this Fed feed?

>> No.17790872

>>17790851
sunday night

>> No.17790879

>>17790810
>What could cause it to burst?

Something like a global pandemic and a Russia/Saudi Arabia oil price war might do it.

>> No.17790885

>>17790833
>>17790835
>>17790842
But the markets went back up and it doesnt seem that bad. Coronavirus has slowed down in asia so why would it matter now?

>> No.17790889

>>17790867
Its the weekend, no one works on weekends

>> No.17790891

>>17790767
I filter tripfags and all memeflags on /pol/.

>> No.17790893

>>17790860
>blonde blue eyed asian girls
R u trying to exponentially increase my yellow fever?

>> No.17790898

>>17790860
They all look and dress like chinky Chris-Chan cosplayers.

>> No.17790902
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17790902

What does this mean?

>> No.17790914

>>17790879
Nonsense. Nothingburg.

>> No.17790927

>>17790885
>Coronavirus has slowed down in asia so why would it matter now?

Because shit hasn't even begun in the US yet and we will never lock things down as much as a place like China would be capable of

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>>17789620
>>17789870
>>17790021
Based Gammon out with a vid https://youtu.be/RvatzH7atsQ

>> No.17790935

>>17790867
how do i short texas specifically?

>> No.17790940
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17790940

Do you believe in God?

>> No.17790941

>>17790885
Because those places in Asia have been reactionary and Trump a week ago was saying it was nothing to worry about.

>> No.17790945

Should I sell SNSS? Is it over?

>> No.17790957

>>17790940
No, and damn sure not one created by Jews that they also managed to kill

>> No.17790962

>>17790885
>Coronavirus has slowed down in asia

China is lying out of its ass. They're more salty than ever about COVID-19 and lashing out against the U.S. because they're being forced to lie. We have no idea what's going on in Korea and Japan.

Because this thing is just as virulent as H1N1 (more so, actually) we're guaranteed to get at least 60,000,000 Americans who have it unless Chinese quarantines are put in place. Either would cause the markets to shit the bed.

>> No.17790963

>>17790885
You believe China?
You can see they are lying about factories being back with the traffic and smog satellites. Also my business still cant get some products to sell. Italy is the only place reportedly correctly that had a huge outbreak.

>> No.17790964

>>17790940
How do I short God

>> No.17790965

>>17790885
>markets have gone back up
lel
>asia only matters on the world stage where europe is the epicentre and burgerville is about to follow
why are you fucking retarded for?

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What do these numbers mean?

>> No.17790971
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17790971

Price predictions for GUSH on Monday?

>> No.17790977
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>>17790940
>literally hoping for an act of god to save this country come Monday

>> No.17790982

>>17790966
I think it's a times table. I used to look at them in elementary school.

>> No.17790996

What's a margin call and why did my broker ask me top my account ?

>> No.17790997

NYC LOCKDOWN NEXT WEEK

>> No.17791001

>>17790966
That's the yield. The bond market is in a massive bubble right now. There is huge liquidity issues that is fragmenting the bond-stock correlation and may be the end of the bond market as we know it

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WHAT SHOULD I INVEST IN????

>> No.17791012

>>17790940
SOMEbody's gotta keep the market for holy wafers and sacramental wine afloat.

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>>17790996
t.

>> No.17791018

>>17790966
It means you'll soon need to pay the government to loan the government money.

>> No.17791022

Which bank is going to go under that is so dependent on interbank lending and the fed repo? DB is not nearly big enough anymore to be having this effect. It can't be JPM or Citibank

>> No.17791026

>>17791006
Non-perishables

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>tfw cheap SPXS calls during the pump

>> No.17791042

>>17790996
It means you are retarded and fucked.
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/margincall.asp
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/12/what-happens-cannot-pay-margin-call.asp

>> No.17791044

>>17790940
>mentioning god
that confirms, orange man has the boomer remover

>> No.17791050

>>17791013
>Jan 22, 2019
That guy must have been REALLY bad at this.

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>>17790822
I like that pic too much, posting pic related if someone wants to use it later.

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>>17790996

>> No.17791062
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>>17790945
No bullrun bros

>> No.17791076

>>17791058
>>17791042
>>17791013
>>17791050
ok see
i shorted asian stocks on friday close
what happens if it opens more than the money i have in my account
can they just close my position even if the loss is bigger than the cash i dont have on margin?

>> No.17791077

>>17791050
He tried to meme the market and the market memed back
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trader-says-he-has-no-money-at-risk-then-promptly-loses-almost-2000-2019-01-22

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>>17790971
I predict I'm gushing on them milkies

>> No.17791087

>>17790971
What happens Monday?

>> No.17791090

>>17790767
Imagine being more concerned with trips than the apocalypse

>> No.17791121

>>17791034
you're going to be a very wealthy man this monday

>> No.17791124

Honestly I dont think anything bad is going to happen since the US recovered from the 2008 recession. The banks were bailed out and returned their share to help out so that's why our country has such great stocks.

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whats the best way to buy gold or silver?

>> No.17791139

>>17791124
>Honestly I dont think anything bad is going to happen since the US recovered from the 2008 recession. The banks were bailed out and returned their share to help out so that's why our country has such great stocks.
are you over 56 1/2 or under 20?

>> No.17791145

>>17791076
I assume you have a real broker, in which case, this is a warning and you MUST deposit more money to cover the margin loan you took. If you don't cover it, they will close whatever they want to recover their losses.

>> No.17791154

>>17790867
Fuck off /leftypol/

>> No.17791158

People are STILL coping all around me.

I just went to the grocery store with my buddy, hoping to get pozzed. He spent the whole time talking about how this was overblown and we are going to recover like China in a few weeks (we live in Toronto where two people were shot over toilet paper this week). I have been hearing “it’s going to be fine” for two months now and it just keeps getting more hellish. All my friends looking at me like I’m a crazy schizophrenic

>> No.17791161

>>17791145
Example:
I have $2,000 in my account and used $10,000 to short
On monday, the stock goes up by 30%, do I owe them money? Or will they just close my position

>> No.17791163
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>>17790966
>haha we fixed the yield curve guys!
>now bonds are worth nothing!
Genius

>> No.17791165

>>17791139
Well I dont foresee any issues in the coming months maybe in about 10 years or so. Doomposters really made this financial crisis some big thing but it needed up being a market correction.

>> No.17791166

>>17791125
Find Peter Schiff and trade with him something valuable

>> No.17791173
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Price predictions on GUSH for Monday at opening anyone?

You would think the Trumo announcement would have some effect.

>> No.17791175

>>17791158
You live in Canada. The only correct course of action was to leave years ago.

>> No.17791199

>>17790962
>60,000,000
Pfft. No.

>> No.17791202

>>17791161
Which fucking broker offered you 5x leverage? My broker allows 2x max on large deposits and not fucking 2 grand

>> No.17791216

Any word on the triple-chopper incident and who in the White House caught boomerbgone?

>> No.17791218

>>17791161
>5x leverage
What the fuck. What broker do you have? They will sell everything if your losses go near or over $2,000.

>> No.17791225

>>17791158
I live in rural town and zeroed my rifle today incase

>> No.17791233
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>>17791202
>>17791218

they allow up to 10x leverage for stocks and 20x for indices

>> No.17791234

>>17790996
>we'll have to have more margin now there isn't any doubt
>so you better dash with a load of cash or we'll have to sell you out

>> No.17791237

>>17791173
it did today, but its not like its going to save the oil industry, its temporary life support to get them off death's door.

>> No.17791251

>>17791006
Giant benis.

>> No.17791258

>>17791199
r0, H1N1 : 1.4 - 1.6
r0, COVID-19 : 2.2 - 2.5

H1N1 infected 60,000,000 Americans. Therefore, COVID-19 will infect 60,000,000 Americans if major quarantine measures are not put in place. Either way the market shits itself.

You can say otherwise but the facts are what they are.

>> No.17791260

>>17791161
Yes you will owe them money. If the raise happened with an open market you would have gotten liquidate at 2k loss. But, when you short the market can open way higher and rek you.

The house always wins.

>> No.17791273

Is this isn’t the beginning of a banking crisis, why did HSBC fire 15% of its employees and plan to let go of 30% of its US business in mid-February? Seems like they see the writing on the walls.

https://www.ibtimes.com/hsbc-layoffs-2020-35000-lose-jobs-after-2019-pre-tax-profit-miss-2924157

>> No.17791275

>>17791260
ok but I won't owe them 3000 since i only have 2000 in my account right?

>> No.17791280

>>17791233
holy fuck dude

>> No.17791285
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>>17791225
I’m ready too bro

>> No.17791289

>>17791233
NAME THE FUCKING BROKER!

>> No.17791293

>>17791233
Say goodbye to your house

>> No.17791296

>>17791275
DONT DO LEVERAGES IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW THE FUCK THE WHOLE THING WORKS

You will owe them as much as you lost, no matter how much you have in your account. And get ready for legal action/bankruptcy if you cant afford to pay them. Do you think they are in the business of handing out free money or what? What the fuck did you think would happen

>> No.17791301

>>17791275
Yes retard. You will be left at 0 and then owe an extra $1000.

>> No.17791309

>>17791275
Yeah, but you have other assets like home, car, etc.

>> No.17791313

>>17791296
>>17791293
>>17791289
>>17791280
>>17791260
>>17791301

ok but there's no way a stock could go up by by more than 20% right in a day right?

>> No.17791315

>>17791296
I endorse this answer but note that shorting can always rek you like this EVEN WITHOUT LEVERAGE!

>> No.17791316

>>17791076
nigga that's a margin call

>> No.17791320
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There are so many people in this country just looking for an excuse. If even the slightest hint of an accusation comes up of racism in access to care, you know what we can expect nationwide.

The moment a white woman gets chosen over a black woman in triage the whole city burns.

>> No.17791325

>>17791316
what if the margin call is bigger than my available balance

>> No.17791328

>>17791313
You better clench that asshole from here til market open my dude.

>> No.17791329

>>17791313
Which one?

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>>17791313

>> No.17791340 [DELETED] 

>>17791320
>excuse to get the nogs
noice

>> No.17791341

>President Trump said Friday that the U.S. would purchase "large quantities" of crude oil in order to help the industry, which has been hit by sinking prices this week.
>As of Friday afternoon, American oil prices appeared to be slightly over $33 per barrel. If the U.S. were to purchase the full 77 million barrels to fill the strategic reserve at $33 per barrel, it would cost more than $2.5 billion.

oil crisis over, hope you bought oil when it bottomed this morning

>> No.17791347

>>17791313
Man fuck you

>>17791320
I'm going to the US for an internship soon. What's the best way to get a firearm?

>> No.17791356
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should i buy bitcoin now that it plumeted? i suck at this i need peer presure

>> No.17791360

>>17791313
>refusing to name the broker
Larp. Otherwise get fucked, retard, you deserve it.

>> No.17791369

>>17791347
Can you even get firearms with just a work visa?

>> No.17791370

>>17791360
https://www.cmcmarkets.com/en-sg/

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>>17791341
>oil crisis over

>> No.17791375

>>17791087
Well Monday... is the day, the market may or may not shit the bed, and have its body parts evenly distributed to its friends and Its family, and thats Monday.

>> No.17791379

>>17791341
The SOR only has room for 18 days of Texas production.

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>>17791341
Price predictions on GUSH?

>> No.17791387

>>17791369
There are usually no restrictions on permanent residents getting weapons in the US.

>> No.17791392

>>17791383
NIGGER
I
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G
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>> No.17791393

>>17791369
Of course not, that's why I'm asking.

>> No.17791397

>>17791006
SQQQ
SDOW
UVXY
DRIP

>> No.17791404

>>17791387
A work visa isnt a permanent resident though.

>> No.17791409

>>17791022
HSBC?

>> No.17791410

>>17791383
Are black queens immune to Covid-19?

>> No.17791412

>>17791325
Stop trading with money you don't own. If you don't pay that shit back the broker will start liquidating your shit.

>> No.17791420

>>17791347
>I'm going to the US for an internship soon. What's the best way to get a firearm?

There are a shit-ton of federal and State laws regarding foreigners and firearms, on top of stringent laws in some States that apply to all people. I would do research and see before taking any course of action.

But regardless of the legality, if you do want to get a firearm (as is your right, despite what our communist government says), the surefire way to do it is buying from a private person at a gunshow *or* going online and arranging a deal with a private individual using websites like http://texasguntrader.com/, that one's just for Texas but I'm sure they have a similar thing for wherever you're going.

Even if you're in an extremely blue State you can just cross State lines buy at a gun show and take it back with you.

>> No.17791424

>>17791397
Change DRIP to GUSH if you think oil will recover

>> No.17791425

>>17791370
What the fuck is with the UK and absolutely insane leverage?

>> No.17791430

>>17791412
I have the money I just don't want to put it in a 0% interest bearing account

>> No.17791441

>>17790964
Be born

>> No.17791443

>>17791325
liquidation

>>17791387
unless you live in a state run by democrats.
I had to get a license from my state police to own a gun. They're evil.

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>>17791430

>> No.17791447

>>17791430
so basically your balance goes negative and you pay it or get sued, and because you have the money, you should probably just pay it.

>> No.17791454

>>17791420
> the surefire way to do it is buying from a private person at a gunshow *or* going online and arranging a deal with a private individual using websites

What if he gets found to own that gun though, he'd be in deep shit and probably would get deported along with a 10 year ban on reentering the country. Not worth the risk.

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This was promoted on twitter to me. Is it true or propaganda?

>> No.17791459

>>17791370
>>17791425
>en-sg
>Singapore
https://www.cmcmarkets.com/en-sg/cfds-margins
Oh fuck dude. You better sell as soon as you can and hope you don't get liquidated (that means they will just take everything in your account). Do not ever EVER take margin again. DONT FUCKING DO IT AGAIN.

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I went all in on SPY and SQQQ puts today, anyone else?

>> No.17791467

>>17791397

I just doubled down on SQQQ. Fuck the FED.

>> No.17791472

>>17791459
but i have $10,000 just that I didn't put the whole $10,000 in the account because I lose out on earning 2% interest per annum on the $8,000 which is 43 cents a day if I had put the whole money inside.

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>>17791341
>everything's gone to shit within a single week and the US is pissing trillions away trying to salvage the situation.
Holy fuck, lmao, I'm surprised they havent assassinated MBS and installed a puppet to raise oil, it would be cheaper than this bullshit.

>> No.17791479

>>17791430
Unless a miracle happens at open then prepare to get instantly liquidated.

>> No.17791485

>>17791467
What, to buy on open? Watch him give a speech right on open.and that bump slaps you.

>> No.17791488

>>17791456
Dont believe what anyone says, they're trying to cope.

>> No.17791494

>>17791456
A plague is not a financial crisis. A plague is a temporary setback for businesses.

>> No.17791502

>>17791475
That cat's diarreah was pretty bullish on the wall there- Green monday confirmed

>> No.17791504

>>17791472
Pay the broker and dont leverage again you dumb fucking Filip

>> No.17791513

It's just going to be a flood of celebrity coronavirus endorsements over the weekend. Orlando Bloom just got pozzed.

>> No.17791514

>>17791504
what's a flip

>> No.17791516

>>17791485

I'll double down again. IDGAF. I am confident things will get much worse before better.

>> No.17791529

>>17791513
To be fair, a bunch of celebrities getting it and then living through it like it was nothing could be good news for the market rather than bad. If any of them dies, howeever.

>> No.17791532

>>17791379
Rent or buy more space to stash oil
Saudis can produce at $3/barrel and shale collapses below $50/barrel.
Buying oil between this price range protects shale while also making the US less vulnerable to price shocks.
The entire Russian/Saudi price war is a gambit to kill shale, so the US can double down on its nativist agenda by simply shredding that plan.

>> No.17791535

>>17791472
No, you have $2000. They are loaning you $8000 for 2% on the CONDITION that your your TOTAL ACCOUNT VALUE does not go LOWER than $8000. If it goes near or below $8000 they will sell everything in your account. Its called a collateralized loan, the collateral is your entire account. Thats why you get such a good rate, because the house never loses.

>> No.17791556

>>17791456
You know they're fucked when they revert to tea leaf analysis to justify their valuation. They'll ostrich themselves into the ground with "it's just a flu" and "gone by april" until the hard dick of reality is shoved straight up their ass.

>> No.17791560

>>17790756
Hey guys, would 200p on 4/24 be a bad idea or a good move? I'm thinking we're going to be much worse by then

>> No.17791569

>>17791529
Coronavirus has an average hospitalization time of about two weeks. 80% of them will be fine. 15% of them will be "Johnny Depp with an oxygen mask". 5% of them will be "Hugh Laurie in ICU".

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This is why recovery in the West will not be anywhere close to as good as China/Korea.

>> No.17791585
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can someone explain this to a 100% retard. i have fidelity account to trade an index fund. the price of the index fund stays the same all day (price P) even though the DOW fluctuates throughout the day. in the middle of the day i say sell X dollars of this stock. it says i will get the "next available price" or whatever. is that the price that i see on the screen when i make the order (price P), or is it the price of when the market closes? basically if I said sell in the middle of the day today, am i getting the price after the -9.9 that happened to the dow yesterday or after the +9.36 or whatever that happened today?

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>>17790940
If there is a hell Trump is going there lol

>> No.17791591

>>17791529
Imagine if Tom Hanks died of the virus. Guaranteed instant drop in the markets.

>> No.17791596

>>17791569
2% will die. Clint Eastwood passing away, not a good move. Ruth Bader Ginsburg passing away, not -

Oh wait. Damn, she'll actually die! Fuck, fantastic!

>> No.17791602

>>17791475
based cat dumping ass on hipster fags

>> No.17791605

>>17791529
I'd just like to see an account of what it's like to have it. Celeb or normie i don't care. Surely in today's tmi world some victims have live vlogged it or some such.

>> No.17791611

>>17791463
I reopened my shorts about 40min before close and some SPXS calls as well

>> No.17791613

Anyone else really excited for GME this coming month? How do you guys feel about earnings on the 26th?

>> No.17791621

>>17791313
>ok but there's no way a stock could go up by by more than 20% right in a day right?
Tippity top lel

>> No.17791622

>>17791573
>q surface temperature checker is accurate in any way detecting a fever that is inside the body
>CHINA SMART! WE WAVE MAGIC WAND THAT DETECT CORONA! HOW PRIMITIVE AND DUMB AMERICAN DOGS ARE!

>> No.17791623

>>17791585
>the price of the index fund stays the same all day

What index fund does this?

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ITT: coping bears (including myself)

>> No.17791632

>>17791587
Are you still mad that Bolsonaro tested negative for the virus?
Get fucked, retard.

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17791634

since we de facto entered a bear market, surely today is an anomaly, because i don't think there has ever been a case where the market has dipped into and out of -20%, and then kept going positive.

>> No.17791659

>>17791623
FXAIX? i don't know maybe i am retarded?

>> No.17791665

>>17791573
China's approach was to barricade people in the houses, Korea's was to test every single person alive. Both worked but I don't see it mattering much, everyone has to wait till it goes over completely before business can resume.

>> No.17791666

Gained 7.21% today. Still down -29.79%. Oh well at least its a start.

>> No.17791667

>>17791634
Umm, sweetie, the average bear market is just a 30% drop. We nearly hit that the other day and this bear market was not brought about by purely economic factors.

>> No.17791669

>>17791634
Its obviously a bearish market, the issue is that there might be a pretty big temporary rally now considering how strong and fast the drop has been so far. I have no doubt shit will get worse before it gets better mid-term but short term aka next week there could easily be a big dead cat bounce that would kill off a bunch of bears, especially considering most have weeklies

>> No.17791677

>>17791634
Consult chart behaviour following past rapid declines. It's iffy. Coin flippy. Wait for confirmation if you want to go long. Wait for a rebound in to sputter out lower high if you want to go short.

>> No.17791680

>>17791463
Dis puts and spy yeah

>> No.17791697

>>17791634
It's not an anomaly, slingshot effects are much greater here. We went down to bear market territory incredibly quick with almost nothing but pure fear as fuel, we can dip in an out for the next few weeks.

>> No.17791710

All right anons, I need some help. Got into some long SQQQ calls that don’t expire until 2021. That was before the reverse split. No liquidity now so no way to cash out.

Theoretically couldn’t I sell calls on exactly 1/4 as many contracts of SQQQ with my pre-reverse split contracts as collateral? Robinhood said no but logically it makes perfect sense to allow it. Is there a broker that would do this? Can I hook up with an independent broker that would allow it?

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>>17791596
Imagine President Pence electing a full clean slate Supreme Court, except the youngest member... Kavanaugh!

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>Fed on Monday

>> No.17791733

>>17791622
Nigga have you ever touched your forehead with a fever, you get hot. Unless you have like, rolls of forehead fat, I guess?

>> No.17791738

>>17791585
>A mutual fund's price, or its net asset value (NAV), is determined once a day after the stock markets close at 4 p.m. Eastern Standard Time (EST) in the United States. While there is no specific deadline when a mutual fund must update and submit its NAVs to regulatory organizations and the media, they typically determine their NAVs between 4 p.m. and 6 p.m. EST.

>> No.17791740

Is it even worth holding in-the-money puts after they go ITM? Do the chances of someone buying them when they're deep ITM drop off sharply?

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Looks like the website was all a lie! Here comes the first of the bad news, bullcucks!

>> No.17791746

>>17791665
There's a very real chance we don't even start beating this until a vaccine is available, unless you want a full year of quarantine in home. RIP economy. SQQQ prints.

>> No.17791755

>>17791742
Google wasn’t even expecting its name to be mentioned today! HAHAHHA

>> No.17791758

>>17791605
If it's mild it feels like a flu, complications are pneumonia, acute respiratory failure, and heart infection (myocarditis)

>> No.17791762

>>17790579

this is probably the only place besides a university where people understand the power of a straight line on that log plot

>> No.17791768

>>17791723
The Fed is absolutely retarded but the market might actually be oversold right now. If their strategy is to somehow tank it until corona passes over then it won't work but not letting it just go to zero in a week is the right idea.

>> No.17791770

>>17791740
>is it even worth it to have the option of buying thousands of stocks for less than they're currently worth
really jogs the noggin...

>> No.17791771

>>17791755
>>17791742
It was probably something Donnie read on twitter quickly before having to do the conference and kind of forgot what it was all about.

>> No.17791781

>>17791738
thank you! prayer emoji

>> No.17791785

>>17791667
>the average bear market is just a 30% drop

The 'drop' on $TSLA was from $900 to $550. Going from a pie-in-the-sky valuation to what would have been a reasonable valuation before COVID-19 isn't a drop. There are so many other companies like this.

We have not entered an actual bear market because people are still buying and selling the indices at the inflationary highs seen in 2016. You can't lose value that doesn't exist to begin with, this week's drop doesn't even count for the indices.

It's like the tulip mania market of the Dutch experiencing a 30% 'drop' from prices of what must be now $10,000 - $20,000 a flower and then saying that's it, that's the bear market, it's over. The underlying assets were fucking flowers.

The underlying assets of this market are junk bonds and companies trading over future earnings as much as 47x. What they're really worth is a fraction of what they're trading for now, even in this so-called 'bear' market.

>> No.17791790

>>17791659
the "price" of any stock is just the last amount that someone paid for it. Something's value is only what someone is willing to pay for it. So when you do a 'market sell' of some shares, your brokerage looks for the highest bid it can get for those.

>> No.17791792

>>17791733
You can spread it before you get a fever, retard.

>> No.17791804

>>17791733
My gran had one of those last year ($40 USD)
Like +/- 3 F inaccurate

>> No.17791807

>>17791697
see
>>17791746
>>17791569
coronachan is queen and oil is king, Trump basically just bought oil two weeks but celebrities will start to get *seriously* ill soon.

>> No.17791814

>>17791792
This is true but you don't need to get the transmission rate to 0, any R0 below 1 is shrinking the disease

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>>17791758
thanks. Also i just found this:

>"For many, it is nothing more than a bad cold, really."

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-51876080

>> No.17791820

Oil prices are about to go up again.

Shoulda bought the dip.

>> No.17791829

>>17791807
>celebrities will start to get *seriously* ill soon.

Good. Hollywood deserves death.

>> No.17791836

>>17791818
this is true, 80% mild which means a bad flu or less (keep in mind a bad flu can already kill boomers), 15% will need ventilation, 1-2% die

>> No.17791838

>>17791790
This.

Bids are buys, asks are sells. When you buy, you'll get quoted whatever the closest ask price above your bid is. When you short something, you get quoted the nearest bid.

A stop loss below your buy is just another order that gets matched against the nearest bid

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The fed was just a trillion dollar pump CHUMP

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>>17791820
>HODling 5 XOMs

>> No.17791857

>>17791733
Are you fucking stupid? Do you know how a fever works? Do you understand why the thermometer has to be inside your body? You do know you can feel hot without a fever?

>> No.17791861

>>17791792
Oh let's just do nothing then

>> No.17791868

>>17791820
How high can oil prices go in this environment? It will be just the US buying it's own oil to keep it afloat. Everyone else will still be getting the cheap Saudi one. Will the be US buying Saudi oil?

>> No.17791869

>>17791820
>>17791853
>oil going up!!!!
Cope. You are already broke.

>> No.17791874

>>17791785
>Tulip mania reached its peak during the winter of 1636–37, when some bulbs were reportedly changing hands ten times in a day. No deliveries were ever made to fulfil any of these contracts, because in February 1637, tulip bulb contract prices collapsed abruptly and the trade of tulips ground to a halt.[36] The collapse began in Haarlem, when, for the first time, buyers apparently refused to show up at a routine bulb auction. This may have been because Haarlem was then suffering from an outbreak of bubonic plague. The existence of the plague may have helped to create a culture of fatalistic risk-taking that allowed the speculation to skyrocket in the first place;[37] this outbreak might also have helped to burst the bubble.[38]

Y-you might be on to something here anon

>> No.17791883

>>17791857
Anus is the best, do it about 12 times a day mmmmmmmmmhhhmm

>> No.17791891

>>17791868
People will always need oil.

Saudis are Russians are stopping their price war so naturally the cost is going back up.

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>>17791861
Didn't say that either, nigger. What next, film doctors dancing to ease your mind like the insects did?

>> No.17791908

>>17791891
>Saudis are Russians are stopping their price war so naturally the cost is going back up.
Source?

>> No.17791913

>>17791868
Price of WTI crude oil only measure the price of oil in America, not in Saudi

>> No.17791923

>>17791874

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh

>> No.17791927

>>17791785
>The underlying assets were fucking flowers.
Some of which were sold for the equivalent of tens of thousands of dollars, bred into unique strains and sold, and for which the rights of those flowers continue to remain in the merchant family's possession to this day. Using the tulip mania as some boogieman story is pretty stupid, anon.

>> No.17791933

>>17791785
Yeah okay I buy it, tell me what to buy

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>>17791785
>One company who I am shorting and cannot stop autistic rambling about is still overvalued thus the whole market is as well despite the Shiller PE ratio being at the bottom of the dot com bubble burst.

A bear market is simply a term for a 20% drop. We are by definition in a bear market, the difference is that this took an extraordinarily short amount of time to enter and likely it will be a similar amount of time out of it because this was caused by external factors and the general sentiment is still very bullish. Your own personal valuation of the market is irrelevant, as is what you think these stocks are really worth. Price is right.

>> No.17791936

>>17791891
You’re retarded.

>> No.17791952

>>17791891

They haven't stopped and demand for oil is still going down, global travel is coming to a screeching halt right now, i don't buy it.

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yfw the virus magically disappears because everything is a joke

>> No.17791969

>>17791934
Keep coping retard

>> No.17791971

>>17791934
>the general sentiment is still very bullish
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/coronavirus-fuel-recession-forecast-us-europe-economic-july-market-jpmorgan-2020-3-1028994637

>> No.17791979

>>17791874
Oh no. We talking about the pansy excitement again? Giving me 2017 nostalgia here.

>> No.17791982

BREAKING: TRUMP INFECTED

I REPEAT, TRUMP INFECTED

>> No.17791988

>>17791971

These guys literally are talking out their ass, europe is shutting down right now.

>> No.17791989

>>17791913
Yeah but the US exports and imports some oil. Nobody else will buy it while the price is being inflated by the US gov. People will just switch to the Saudi one until the US stops the inflating. The US will now have to buy their oil for as much as the oil people ask for to keep them from bankruptcy.

>> No.17792006

>>17791982
>trumps recovers
"its just a flu"
>MOON MISSION

>> No.17792011

>>17791982
Market is closed for the weekend.. no reason to shill

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>>17791988
and right now no europeans will be allowed into USA

problem solved

>> No.17792021

>>17791770

But wouldn't the premiums be ridiculous?

>> No.17792023

>>17791785
Tsla will hit 300 in 2 weeks

>> No.17792024

>>17791971
>by July
The crisis will be over in May at the latest. The virus doesn't even last in the body for more than 2 weeks.

>> No.17792034

>>17792014
No, the collapse of global commerce is not "problem solved".

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>>17791820
Price predictions for GUSH?

>> No.17792049

>>17791971
Economy =/= the market. The market is pricing out a very short lived recession, but it will quickly look beyond it as Coronavirus peaks and retarded bears will be stuck holding their short bags wondering why we haven't dropped 60% like a in real recession, such as in 2008.
>>17791969
>No argument
>Ironically calls someone retarded
Ok, retard.

>> No.17792054

>>17792006
I don't think he would recover but he can still claim that he did and say that a bit scummy but it's Trump. Trudeau is afraid to admit he might have it to prevent panic but saying he did even if a lie might help sentiments more.

>> No.17792055

>>17791723
in case there are still people who think this is just a meme:

>In 2002, following coverage of concerns about deflation in the business news, Bernanke gave a speech about the topic.[64] In that speech, he mentioned that the government in a fiat money system owns the physical means of creating money and to maintain market liquidity. Control of the money supply implies that the government can always avoid deflation by simply issuing more money. He said "The U.S. government has a technology, called a printing press (or today, its electronic equivalent), that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes at no cost."[64]

>> No.17792057

>>17791933
SNSS

>> No.17792062

>>17791927
>for which the rights of those flowers continue to remain in the merchant family's possession to this day

A - 10,000% return on investment depending on the time the rights were bought.

>>17791933
$TSLA and $AMD are going to shit the bed. As to when I couldn't tell you. They're the most overvalued whores on Wall Street at this point.

>>17791934
Sentiment means nothing when the realities of mass death, an overwhelmed healthcare system, civil disorder, and public panic hit the fan. The market sentiment at this point is 'just a flu', and that's why we're in for an even bigger crash when you're forced to admit that COVID-19 isn't 'just a flu'.

Pure delusion.

>> No.17792070

Just went grocery shopping. Even with people buying a lot, the stores are keeping up.

Gonna be a good year for grocery stores, until they inevitably over supply.

>> No.17792083

>>17792024
If no company goes bankrupt till May then maybe. Travel companies are already asking for bailouts and we are only a month in.

>> No.17792094

>>17791001
I've always thought it was a misnomer to call the bond market a bubble. Rates are low because the fed sets them that way, not because it's freely traded. And the fed sets them that way because they're trying to encourage investment in other parts of the economy rather than bonds/treasuries. Maybe I'm just smooth brain but could you explain more.

>> No.17792095

>>17792024
Which is why boomer in Washington tested positive for almost a month because you relapse.

>> No.17792098

>>17792062
>A - 10,000% return on investment depending on the time the rights were bought.
Just a small 350 year dip, tulips will be up soon, just gotta hold

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>>17792034
The problem is solved. Trump saved us from coronavirus with his amazing leadership.

>> No.17792105

>>17792049
>why haven't we flopped 60% like in a real recession
We'll be there by the end of next week at this rate.

>> No.17792107

>>17791659
i had a similar thing with a ftse100 etf yesterday, frozen since 12.30pm the day before, but it came back online half an hour into trading yesterday and I think it was to do with it going ex-dividend. so basically idk

>> No.17792112

>>17792095
That's not true. There's no evidence for "relapse". The boomer probably had a completely different sickness and then got Kung Flu.

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>>17791952
This. I think demand for oil has a long way to go down. We saw factory, shipping, and various other shutdowns that saw consumption for transportation and manufacturing shrink.

Wouldn't similar shutdowns in the EU and the US produce the same effect with a greater magnitude given pic related?

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>>17791463
>>17791397
>>17791710
>>17791746

>> No.17792132

>>17792098
If you never sell you never realize losses

>> No.17792150

>>17792070
It's not about keeping up. The point isn't to buy a year supply of TP.

You stockpile enough to minimize your trips to the grocery store. If you go during peak panic when tons of people are there you already failed in that mission.

People are just too stupid to even understand what they are doing. By going to a packed grocery store and waiting in line to buy 100 rolls of toilet paper you didn't actually mitigate your risk in any way.

It was actually more ideal to wait a week if for some reason you hadn't already stockpiled.

Not that anyone there would even understand this or not be touching their face 24/7

The idiocy of humanity is a spectacle of comical entertainment for the Gods, if you didn't know.

>> No.17792152

>>17792024
Even if the shit with Corona would be pretty much solved by May, the problem with EU is that they were already weak. Germany got close to a recession last year but narrowly avoided it, so the shit happening now + the worries about UK leaving the EU making the zone weaker will surely impact the european economy. The EU will have to approve MAJOR packages and pump their sectors with hundreds of billions to avoid a big recession now which they seem to be preparing by the looks of it

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>>17792112

>> No.17792156

>>17792132

Unless you trade options.

>> No.17792166

>>17790891
How

>> No.17792170

>>17792062
That's such an irrational take. People have been scared to death of this virus, they've already shut down many events and services. A White House doctor has stated that there will be millions of deaths. There has been a run on basic goods. A major correction. We're not economically worse off than in 2008, this isn't about a bubble, just mania, yet you're expecting the same outcome. A 30% drop prices in nearly all of this, including most of the economic effects. We'll come out of this with a more efficient market.
>$TSLA and $AMD are going to shit the bed. As to when I couldn't tell you. They're the most overvalued whores on Wall Street at this point.
You're obsessed. I can't imagine what possesses you to spend literally hours repeating the same thing every day in these threads but Coronavirus is the least of your worries and you should get a fucking shrink.

>> No.17792192

>>17792132
Whether you sell or not it's still going to take the same amount of time to get back to where it was.
If you sell then buy lower (if that's possible) or buy something better that also went lower, you won't have as high to go to get back to where you were.

That's actually a lesson that I learned the hard way; sometimes you've just got to take the losses.

>> No.17792195

>>17792112
Guess you didn't pay attention to chinks getting better and still testing positive.

>> No.17792200

>>17792170
-27% down in equities is what people predicted in a 19,000,000 death pandemic.

The market is getting ahead of itself in panic. I expect by mid april things will probably be mostly done with.

>> No.17792205

>>17791410
yes but can you get AIDS from eating out their assholes?

>> No.17792208

>>17792152
Anyone investing in EU's future deserves to go broke, especially after Brexit.
Now that Turkey has basically declared biological warfare on Greece I don't think the EU is going to last much longer in its current state.

>> No.17792216

>>17792170
>People have been scared to death of this virus

That fear will take a very different form when it actually starts hitting them directly, and their parents or grandparents die from this. When they start seeing the overcrowded hospitals and national guard in their own communities.

This isn't priced in by a long shot.

>> No.17792218

>>17791820
Oil prices will only go up in the US. Everyone else will be getting the cheapies. And it could be that the foreign cheapie oil still gets its way to the US. Russia for sure isn't backing down and Saudis wont probably either.

>> No.17792228

>>17792195
>trusting information coming out of CHINA
I don't know what to say to you on that.

But just in case you're serious, there is an additional, mutated strain of Corona in China at the moment. Only one of them seems to be global.

>> No.17792229

Just imagine if we could ignore the irrationality of markets for a year. Let the virus burn through USA, and then take luxury in the fixed pensions, social security, etc and other systems that now can work.

This Virus isn't killing the economically important.

>> No.17792238

OXY
AR

>> No.17792248
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9.4% of the U.S. adult population has diabetes.
45% of the U.S. adult population has hypertension.
~6% of the U.S. adult population have both.

Fun, fun, fun.

>>17792170
>A White House doctor has stated that there will be millions of deaths.

This has not been priced in. Most people do not believe this. Most market actors do not believe this. We are in "just a flu" mode.

>> No.17792253

>>17792229
The smart investors know that the economic crisis has nothing to do with finances, and everything to do with health. It's going to snap back up the moment people calm the fuck down and consider the situation just two months in the future rather than panic selling.

>> No.17792257

>>17791341
>it would cost more than $2.5 billion.
how many minutes of brrrrrrrrrrrr is that? like 5 seconds?

>> No.17792264

>>17792094
Funds and market makers freely trade bonds all day. The more demand there is for a bond, the higher it's price goes up, like a stock. When supply outweighs demand the price goes down. The important identified of what makes a bond is the yield. It is inversely correlated to the bond price so as the price increases due to popularity, the yield goes down and likewise when it goes up the price goes down. When you hear about negative yields that means they are so popular that the price for the bond has gone so high as to break the ceiling of a yield that would traditionally make sense to buy as you would be paid less at expiration. This would mean either people don't have faith in the currency markets or they are being traded purely out of speculation

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>>17792035
$2 after the reverse split.

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>>17792124
So should I wait to dump my paycheck into GUSH and XOM?

>> No.17792280

>>17792248
>tfw high blood pressure from a life time of stress and anxiety

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>>17792248

>> No.17792294

>>17792248
Those deaths would save the healthcare system so much money in the longrun.

Imagine just having some military tent housing all the 75+ year olds with all sorts of problems being the total end of life care needed. They suffocate to death and you zip them up straight to the incinerator, no funeral.

We would save so much money if this goes pandemic in america. Would be a huge economic bull run after.

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>>17791820
>mfw bought XOM, HAL, USO and GUSH

>> No.17792334

>>17792294
>if
No you retard, it already has.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/487329-ohio-health-official-estimates-100000-people-in-state-have-coronavirus
It's been in the US unchecked for weeks.

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>we're still in a bull market

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>half the thread is bullish on oil
>the other half is talking about megadeaths in months
It'll crab

>> No.17792355

>>17792334
Sounds like we are going to fix the budget then. 200 million infections in USA would be the biggest bull signal in the world. Especially if every other country handled it great and we are the only ones blessed with the virus to clear away social security and healthcare liability.

You know how much america pays for EOL care?

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Y'all said ameritrade would be better in Tuesday at 9:45 it said I was up $1000 on my options. I was is my wagecage so i sold them as fast as possible on the mobile site for makret price and when I had a free second to check it again at 10:00 it said I was actually down 30 dollars. That's a little shitty. I would have made money if I held onto them and iwouldnt have sold of it didn't day I was up.

>> No.17792359

>>17792170
>this isn't about a bubble

Yes, it is. What the fuck do you think will happen in a 2,000,000 death (U.S.) pandemic? People will just casually walk out to their McDonald's, to their local artisan craft store? What are you smoking?

What do you think happens when every small business in this country cannot pay the rent or the loan on time? When all the nonsense profitless ultra-hyped 'startups' implode as wage workers begin to cancel their subscriptions and gadget buys because they're laid off? When all the companies operating on the edge with shitty bonds have to change their guidance because consumer demand shat the bed?

All of these things are not priced in because you (and many others) do not believe they will happen.

>> No.17792362

>>17792035
depends too much on politics, but on a 1.5 year time horizon, even accounting for the nightly rebalancing loss, I think it'll print something like 50 relative to the price it traded today

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what happened to the rate cut?

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>>17791057
I like it

if you want the .psd I can post it somewhere
it's pretty simple though

>> No.17792375

>>17792359
if we have 2,000,000 deaths again, people will get bullish.

We are pricing in an economic slowdown right now, not a clearing of tons of liabilities.

>> No.17792379

>>17792358
Wednesday not Tuesday

>> No.17792383

>>17792352
there are people itt that think oil is still stored and transported in barrels lol

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>>17792355
You're right, but we're not at the bottom yet. A lot of money to be made on the way down though, and it's a long way down.

I fucking hate myself for thinking this but I'm pretty sure it's correct.

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>>17792352
>>17791341
>>17791237
>>17791379
>>17791532
>>17791383
>>17792257
>>17791475
https://armorgames.com/play/2607/oiligarchy

>> No.17792407

>>17792248
Obesity is the common thread in most of these health issues I imagine. RIP fatties.

>>17792253
It becomes a financial issue once quarantines and fear affect earnings for multiple quarters with corporations who are already over leveraged.

>> No.17792408

>>17792383
There are also people itt who have insider info on oil :^)

>> No.17792414

>>17792248
The fear of it has been priced in, not the outcome because that isn't going to happen. As much as you would like to believe there is a conspiracy and that the cases in China are still rising, that isn't the truth and the same thing has happened now in South Korea. A billion strong population with some of the worst hygiene practices on the planet, living on top of each other like rats, managed to stop their cases from rising with only a few thousand deaths. Western governments are more ineffectual, but they've had more time to prepare for this and their populations are much more spread out. It won't reach a million deaths, the population would have self quarantine before that happened and shut down everything for a few weeks.

>> No.17792416

"Might we have to trample on the basic human rights of our citizenry like what china is doing?"

>the right answer:
'No, the United States of America has the highest quality of health care in the world. We are the leaders in medical innovation, and every day we get better. If you are sick, or if your loved ones are sick, seek the help you need; our medical science has never been better than it is now. You won't need to have your rights or your dignity trampled, because you're not in china. You're in AMERICA, God Bless AMERICA."

>the answer the trump administration gave
"Well I hope not. But we've doubled our supply of jack boots and cudgels just to be sure, and Branson assures us his rockets will be able to carry the richest of us into the safety of space."

>> No.17792419

>>17792389
Nothing wrong with being capable of rationality.

Right now we are pricing in a lockdown event, not a great wipeout of boomers event. If you did the math on 2,000,000 boomers dying in the next 3 months, it'd be net positive.

>> No.17792420

>>17792403
I loved that game like ten years ago. But it predates fracking changing the game. They should make a sequel.

>> No.17792448

>>17792408
you mean they are working for the saudis and russians??

>> No.17792455

>>17791475
>having a female cat
>pestering the shit out of it
>ignoring all the cat signs that say "Leave me the fuck alone"
He's lucky he didn't get his eyes scratched out. Then again his soi immune system probably can't handle the torrent of justice so he'll probably go blind anyway

>> No.17792499

>>17792358
The quoted price is the midpoint between the bid and the ask. If the ask is 1500 and the bid is 500, the quote is 1000. However, if you the market sell you get the 500 price

>> No.17792505

>>17792264
I still don't fully see it that way because the fed sets the interest rate (at least for federal bonds). Are you saying the bonds are in a bubble of high price per note? To me I don't interpret that as a bubble, I interpret that as a natural product of equities being too expensive--force people to diversify and hedge. Likewise cheap bonds, for any constant interest rate, would mean high demand for other products and no need for safety.

I just interpret the "bubble" as completely external to bonds. It's not like people are cooming over bonds for their own sake...

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>>17792416
Why not let individuals sort it out.

Want to go to NBA games? Go to NBA games. Want to go to a concert, go.

Just have the tents with beds on them ready for "Treatment" and if they die they die.

We need to stop intervening in the natural systems of society. Bail outs, central banks, stimulus.

nah.

Just stop covering coronavirus treatment via insurance, set up fema camps for the sick to go to for "care" aka a fold out bed and armed guards preventing escape until cured or dead.

We could sort this out easily and let natural selection enhance our society.

>> No.17792525

>>17792455
It's obviously fake. Simply pause the webm while it apparently shits on the wall and you'll see that its ass isn't close to being aligned to where the spatter hits. The cat also wasn't being harmed, it wanted to play and spun around after to seek more attention rather than leave which would happen if the cat was actually annoyed.

t. cat expert

>> No.17792537

>>17792407
>once quarantines and fear affect earnings for multiple quarters with corporations who are already over leveraged.

The fear factor is going to diminish a lot over the next few weeks. People are just going to want to live their normal lives again.

>> No.17792538

>>17792516
This reliance on authority is a cancer in America. It shouldn't be how we behave.

If people want to avoid a pandemic. They can avoid it individually.

If they want to get sick and die because all the ICU are full. Let them.

The info is out there. Why have some central authority have to guide and care for them?

Let society strengthen itself via the natural forces of selection.

>> No.17792557

>>17791785
18000 dow is real value, WITHOUT coronachan priced in, could go as low as 10,000

>> No.17792558

>>17792414
Italy reached 250 deaths today. The most ever recorded in a single day, including during wartime periods. You are in denial. The only governments who are able to handle this are extremely authoritarian ones.

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>>17792062
TSLA will be 300 in 2 weeks or less

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>>17792538
This is how you stop being a first world country in a world where everyone is looking for an in to power.

>> No.17792582

>>17792538
This reliance on authority is a cancer in America. It shouldn't be how we behave.
If people want to avoid a niggers. They can avoid it individually.
If they want to get robbed and die because all the prisons are full. Let them.
The info is out there. Why have some central authority have to guide and care for them?
Let society strengthen itself via the natural forces of selection.

How's that working out?

>> No.17792591

blood bath on monday?

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>>17792407
It's affecting everyone. My kids' school is closing next week for the next month and a bunch of parents are freaking out wondering who the fuck is going to watch their kids. Of course daycares are closed too lol.

>> No.17792594

American society desperately needs a pandemic. It's the truth. We need a kick in the face. The fact such an event could be net economic beneficial after 5-10 years is just re-affirmation they should continue to bogle the response. Delay the testing another two weeks. Accidently order the wrong type of extra ventilators. Misuse some funds or come up with another bureaucratic way to stop private testing.

Saving the day is not what the government should do. Let God sort out the problem. On Sunday we will pray to God.

why intervene in what God wills? Let the bodies pile up on the streets. Why contain it?

>> No.17792599

>>17792408
tell us positions or stop larping

>> No.17792604

>>17792599
already did

>> No.17792610

I've never done stocks before. 3 Questions.

1. Is it 18 or 21 to buy stock in Connecticut?
2. What should I buy?
3. Are we bottomed yet?

>> No.17792611

>>17792577
kek

Oh geez the government is going to save you because you can't stop touching your face and have to talk 1 foot from everyone.

Yes, let us create even more weak generations. Let us never remind humans they are meatbags a few heartbeats from being dead.

>> No.17792612

>>17792594
They won’t do this because Trump wants to get re-elected. If this didn’t happen in an election year it’d be so much better

>> No.17792622

>>17792604
Oh ok thanks fren

>> No.17792625

>>17792582
How are the massive social programs of the 60s working out for blacks? Did those work?

>> No.17792631

>>17792557
You're being retarded. Stop.

>> No.17792633

>>17792414
>not the outcome because that isn't going to happen.

Korea's response was unique in many, many ways. They tested a large amount of people at an extremely rapid pace, early into the game, and utilized NSA-like tracking to monitor the movements of the citizenry. But even with that? The confirmed cases, though stable in their rate of increase, are still rising every day, and nobody knows where it will go at the end of the day.

We are a nation that will neither quarantine nor test and track. And we haven't prepared at all so that point doesn't matter. The Chinese have an enormous incentive to fuck their data (AT ALL LEVELS, ESPECIALLY THE PROVINCIAL LEVEL) and saying "that isn't the truth" doesn't remove that incentive. There was an enormous swine death due to some disease and Reuters did a very good report at how far the provincial officials went to make their cases '0'. Now we just have the same dirty tricks.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-swinefever-china-epidemic-specialrepo/special-report-before-coronavirus-china-bungled-swine-epidemic-with-secrecy-idUSKBN20S189

>> No.17792642

>>17792499
Lesson learned I was just pumped for a sec and let down. Did the market halt in the first 15 minutes of trading on wed? Is that why they were so expensive and worthless the next, the value on my calls went from several hundred to back to normal in minutes.

>> No.17792643

>>17792610
Look up your own local laws fag, ask again on Monday, no.

>> No.17792652

>>17792625
worked a little too well and inadvertently turned them into incalcitrant children.

>> No.17792656

>>17792594

S'cool

>> No.17792658

>>17792558
Do you think the law is what stops people on a highway from colliding head on? It's plain rational self interest, the vast majority of people voluntarily self isolate and practice good hygiene when a virus hits. You don't need an authoritarian government in this situation, not that South Korea government fits that description. Some people will disregard the guidelines and get other people sick, but the same thing constantly happened in China as well and their country is full to the brim of retarded narcissists.

>> No.17792663

>>17792633
It's not rising every day. It's decreasing many days straight and only increased because of a new cluster, which was quickly thoroughly tested and quarantined.

Koreans also changed social behavior drastically and immediately.

>> No.17792666

>>17792591
Ask a normie friend who got into stocks in January and do the opposite. If this pump liquidated enough normie bears then maybe a little red. The bonds say that other than that crazy pump we are good for now, keep in mind that even at future's limit down it still doesn't clear that pump so a -5% Monday is pretty much 0%.

>> No.17792668

>>17792594
What if god's way is what is happening now? You "agape your enemy" fags are hilarious as much as the pope having a bullet resistant vehicle.

>> No.17792692

>>17792505
>fed sets the interest rate (at least for federal bonds)
Anon...I
But seriously just fucking search fed interest rate, it has nothing to do with bonds. They do affect bonds supply and demand through fomc but it's not like they say hmm today we'll raise the bond yield by this much. I'm not bothering to read the rest of your post but lurking moar and reading the op is the least you can do

>> No.17792693

>>17792668
That's the point.

Why is the government supposed to save everyone? This isn't an authoritarian country.

The information is out there. You can decide what to do.

The italians who kept partying and doing everything as normal get to die. Why stop them from doing waht they want?

We should not lockdown in USA. Just let them deal with the medical bills, long-term effects, and death on their own.

Stop creating these playground like systems for humanity. Let them choose to die or live. Not be told.

>> No.17792695

>>17792663
Good for them but it doesn't mean much. A week back and they only had to monitor Chinese people now the rest of the world has it and they can get reinfected much more easily.

>> No.17792698

Anyone else trying to get pozzed? I went to three super markets today and linked some door knobs. What else can I do?

>> No.17792703

>it must be god
Is this really how we're coping, /smg/?

>> No.17792705

>>17792658

It's via traffic laws and rules of the road. Even in third world shitholes there are rules of the road. They are simply unwritten but everyone that drives on the road knows them so it works.

>> No.17792714

>>17792695
It's very unlikely foreign travel cases will be enough to overwhelm them after tackling it down from 300+ new a day.

>> No.17792722

>>17792658
The local frat is throwing a coronavirus themed kegger here at my university lol. One of the largest unis in the country and currently under “cancellation”

>> No.17792727

>>17792693

What if gods way is through government.

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Apparently (watching CNN) Oregon doesn't have the testing capacity to even test sick doctors who have been treating patients. This is worse than Italy, this is Wuhan writ large.

>> No.17792728

>>17792717
>>17792717

>>17792717
>>17792717
>>17792717

>>17792717
>>17792717

new

>>17792717


threat

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>>17792153
Retrokekkies

>>17792150
This is true, but i just today heard about issues with the “paper goods” supply chain, so I’m not sure if and where that would manifest. But seriously, if you run out of TP, can’t you just buy baby wipes? I haven’t seen anyone loading up on those.

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>>17792631
The Dow Jones halved in 2008. Will happen again. The show cannot go on forever.

>>17792663
The number of new confirmed cases each day has stabilized. The total number of cases is still rising.

>> No.17792745

>>17792703
What else do you think it is?

Is the government supposed to stop all murders, all rapes, all evil deeds?

That's not why we exist.

It's supposed to be a world full of "choices", good vs evil, stupid vs smart, and lucky vs unlucky.

This simulation isn't about perfect. Let the virus run, let the people who want to die, die.

They are 55+

they know what the flu is
they know what a more dangerous flu is

the government isn't here to baby them. If a 60 year old diabetic goes to a NBA game let them die. Don't cancel the NBA.

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>>17791820
>>17791868
>>17792326
>He bought oil?
>Drop eet to 20

>> No.17792755

>>17792014
>Wendy’s
WHAT THE FUCK
NOW WHAT THE HELL AM I GOING TO DO WITH THESE MCD BAGS?!?

>> No.17792760

>>17791785
this. its not a bear market and its not recession. we are just back to normal, its a reality check slapping stupid millennials in the face because they throw money at anything as long as it has a pokemon logo or promises to be "green and lower global warming" without understanding fundamentals

products of a brainwashed generation

>> No.17792789

>>17791934
>likely it will be a similar amount of time out of it
Is there precedent for this?
Have other bear markets that developed quickly also reversed quickly compared to the rest?

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>>17792740
American statistics are easily as false as early outbreak Wuhan. 10x, 30x, 100x off. The testing capacity is just not there.

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>>17792557
Correct.

TSLA goes to 200 within a month.

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>>17792633
Clearly the outbreak in South Korea is near its peak. Testing is good for figuring out who to isolate and for resource management, but the major factors are hygiene and isolation, which are practiced regardless of government influence. Once most of the citizenship starts doing what they should, you can have unknown cases but the growth will still decrease.

Regarding China, their data is irrelevant. They're getting back to work and the lock down has ended. If their outbreak was uncontained, they've would have exposed their entire population by now.

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>>17791845
Retards. All of you.
This is a standard short squeeze or short-covering rally. They happen all the time in bear markets.

The government isn’t just printing out money, it buys US treasuries from the banks, and later sells them back to the banks for a small profit. This isn’t nearly as crazy as you’re making it sound.

However it is something worth paying attention to. I’m beginning to believe some of the rumors that perhaps DeutcheBank is insolvent and on the verge of collapse. This would not be good for anyone, unless you like chaos and people losing jobs and suffering and such. But it may be inevitable.

I bought more KO on Thursday. Did you?

>> No.17792865

>>17792403
Is this made by the same people who made pandemic 2?!?
That’s the site I played it on. That would be neat.

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If you think this isn't a bulltrap you're in for a rude awakening.

https://money.cnn.com/data/fear-and-greed/

>> No.17792888

>>17792705
So if there wasn't any traffic laws regarding not crashing into people, you believe that everyone would run into each other? It isn't the law that stops people from doing it, it's that they don't want to fucking die. It's the same reason why the government doesn't have to order you not to walk into the area where someone flu stricken person just sneezed.

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>>17791154
You have to go back.

The chins have always been shit-stirrers and doomers, but you stupid fucking boomer shitcunts couldn't tell the difference between authentic support and desire to throw a spanner in the works. And now your fat faggot and your own retarded refusal to pull your head from the sand will doom you all. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving generation

This is the future you chose.

>> No.17792977

>>17792876
it was 2 on thursday retard now thats 5 thats more than a 100% gain

>> No.17792988

>>17792847
>and later sells them back to the banks for a small profit

Then why is the fed's balance sheet 7 trillion? Half of the US GDP. The fed is keeping that debt because if it tried to pull cash back in everything would implode. Which ironically is only going to make the eventual pop even worse.

>> No.17793034

>>17792977
Going from extreme fear to extreme fear is a 0% gain though

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>>17792977
>it was 2 after the orange retard let his cabinet do his dirty work.

Go figure. I knew this would happen: Orange faggot gives speech that actually renews confidence in the market; Market closes high.

>weekend ensues
>Fear and capitulation set back in
>weekend ends
>Red.

2 days is plenty of time for people to get mighty paranoid.

>> No.17793057

>>17793034
be greedy when everyone is fearful - george soros
everyone is just going to buy now

>> No.17793070

>>17792414
China has already had a million deaths, the only thing chinks love more than torturing animals is watching chinks die, if the chicoms didn't see this as an existential threat they would have never Shut It Down

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>>17792747
Please no Mr. Bogdanoff. I have so much tied up in USO.

>> No.17793445

>>17792827
Any NO2 from their factories yet?

>> No.17793560

>>17793445
That shit was a complete meme

>> No.17793593

>>17793560
How so? What should I be looking for then?

>> No.17793696

>>17793313
U gon die

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>yeah bro by calls on margin its back to bull market now

IM FUCKED

>> No.17793879

>>17793759
Please tell me that's element-edited.

>> No.17793884

>>17793759
>options on margin
>with this vol
>with this high premium
Did you think you were going to win? Also does that mean you went 100% all in?

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>>17793759
Literally no one seriously told you to buy calls on margin.