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>> No.17721938

I have 15k in the bank ready to go, what do I do bro’s? I have almost no expenses or debt

>> No.17721940
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>mfw I bought the dip

>> No.17721949
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The future that comes

>> No.17721948

Hello, I'd like one healthy market please. Yes, I'll hold.

>> No.17721954
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>he didn't invest in bonds

>> No.17721959
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is it still worth shorting airlines or has that opportunity past so to speak?

>> No.17721960

Shorting is betting on economic collapse. Hope you guys are happy

>> No.17721962

>>17721940
smart move shirley this is the bottom

>> No.17721963

>>17721940
now post your real face when

>> No.17721965
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17721965

stockies?

>> No.17721968

>>17721938
Don't get into the market. We are nowhere near the bottom

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>>17721924
Aww come on, OP! The recovery from this shit will be glorious once it gets going.

>> No.17721972

If $TSLA doesn't tank to $550 tomorrow I'm going to lose it.

>> No.17721973
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> Honey look, those idiot millennials are buying the dip. They're actually going to take the bag!
> That's so wonderful Gerald, maybe we can take that trip to Venice after all.
> Oh, I'm thinking we might. Andddd ::click:: Sold! We're out of the market!

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>>17721963

>> No.17721980
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TELL ME HOW TO BUY STOCKS
CORONA WILL MAKE ME RICH

>> No.17721982

thread mood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQi8wEHMm5Y

>> No.17721984

>>17721938
10k in cash, 5k in Gold/Silver, a gun, 2-months of food stored, and roof over my head. Will I make it?

>> No.17721986

When do the foreign banks start combusting?
How does china deal with shit like this, do they pump banks the same way the fed does?

>> No.17721988
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>> No.17721991

What do you guys make of the presidential address?

>> No.17721996

>>17721973
>to Venice
kek, gotta update the pasta bro

>> No.17721999

>>17721954
There was an anon a year ago who kept shilling his model of buying bonds when the yield curve inverts. I listened and I'm rich now.

Gommie Faggit?

>> No.17722001

>>17721938
Get more money. And start off with that Boomer Investing 101 link in the OP.

>> No.17722006

I JUST WANT TO HAVE SEX ONE TIME IN MY LIFE ITS NOT FAIR THE WORLD ENDING IS MORE PROBABLE TO HAPPEN

>> No.17722008

>>17721924
Can someone please post the "Pink Wojack hanging onto a falling Red Arrow" gif please?

>> No.17722013

What companies should I buy when we got bottom? Should I just stick to indexes?

>> No.17722014

My father dumped all his stocks after losing $40k. I think he dumped around $140kish. Good or bad? We both are convinced there is a ways to go before bottom. Figure cut the losses and wait for the market to rebound.

>> No.17722015

>>17721924
I bought 4 spy puts today. Probably not gonna make much.

>> No.17722017

>>17721968
Well that’s why I’m asking about puts or short indexes as well

>> No.17722019
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>>17721984
bandits like pic related are going to take your stuff anon

>> No.17722021

>>17721960
No, the economic impact of corona will be less than 5% of annual GDP. I'm betting on fear.

>> No.17722022

>>17721999
How’d that make your rich? I’m a dummy.

>> No.17722026
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Below 100 tomorrow

>> No.17722028

>>17721949
completely unrealistic

it will take at least a few days

>> No.17722029

I can't find a single resistance line in the DJIA that has not been shattered already. That said, we are just below one. Perhaps some Jew magic can pull the average back up to resistance, but we could unironically see free fall to 20% tomorrow.

>> No.17722032

>>17721924
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I made the right decision today to still bet against the market.

>> No.17722033

>>17722006
you're probably going to be able to rape with impunity in 2-3 weeks, don't worry about it

>> No.17722034

>>17721991
Weak sauce

>> No.17722038
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17722038

i don't get it.
so the difference between buying a stock and buying calls is that i can put less money up front with calls, and therefore make more profit? so if i expect a stock to go up 10% in a week, i am better off buying calls with a higher strike price than just buying the stock itself?
pls handhold a retard like me

>> No.17722044

So its been green, red, green, red, for a few weeks now until today, is the end of crab bros? did they get too cocky? I'm thinking we are eternally red starting tomorrow.

>> No.17722045

So bull or bear in the morning?

https://www.strawpoll.me/19521781

Vote up there^

>> No.17722046

Cashed out in late Jan when shit really started to hit the fan in China.

Sitting almost fully in cash rn, is it worth moving to gold or safe havens ASAP in case we see major stimulus measures and other shit that will increase money supply and devalue cash?

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mfw all of capital one's phone lines are unavailable and i'm locked out of my account

>> No.17722050

>>17721991
Trump has corona. Speaking so slowly, barely holding back coughs.

Just means he'll be out of commission for a few weeks, 99%+ chance he lives.

>> No.17722052

Brainlet here, if the global economy is going to be essentially paused for the next financial quarter, why are stocks collapsing? When the virus runs its course these businesses will still be there. Everything will resume again. There's no reason to panic sell.

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>>17722038
Wow get a load of this retard.

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>tfw prepping supplies included 12 of these
damn i'm going to be eating good

>> No.17722064
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Get in bulltards

>> No.17722068

>>17721959
All travel from Europe to the US has been banned. That's a fuckload of flights cancelled. Short the airlines.

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17722069

>>17722044

>> No.17722071

>>17722050
>99%+ chance he lives.
Wait, forgot he's an obese 73 year old. 90% chance he lives.

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>>17722062
never said i wasn't retarded

>> No.17722074

For people saying that cruise companies won't go back to normal because of all the boomers dying, are the boomers that can afford cruises really the ones that can't afford surviving an overblown flu?

>> No.17722076

>>17722022
I bought bonds before they were cool and now people want to pay lots of money for them because they have big yields.

>> No.17722078

>>17722052
It was all overvalued to hell in the first place

>> No.17722079
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>walking home from meeting
>pass by bloomberg terminal lab on campus
>group of losers barricades in there with tsla data on every monitor
these people are why the market needs a correction
feeless trading should be banned

>> No.17722081

>>17722050
He’s old and obese, his chance of survival would be 50/50 and he’d be out of commission for a month if he lives.

>> No.17722082

Listen closely. Boomers have this notion of buying the dip ingrained into their minds. Trade against this and you will make money.

Buy puts on green days, like 30 minutes before close. You can not only hedge your porfolio against drops but you're pretty much gauranteed to make money because anytime a country quarantines, the market drops big in a short period of time.

>> No.17722086

My plan is to wait for airlines and GUSH to go down further and buy them. I just can’t see oil not going back up and we will always need airplanes.

>> No.17722094

>>17721959
you can still do bear credit spreads to be safe from premium crush

>> No.17722096

>>17722073
i've never had technical questions like that answered here, everyone is an asshole

>> No.17722098
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17722098

Society is collapsing and bullets are finite

Everyone invested in their claymore? How's your form coming along?

>> No.17722099

>>17722074
Cruises are pretty fucking cheap as far as vacations go, and boomers buy shit they can't afford all the time.

>> No.17722101

>>17722052
Vaccine is going to be out in 1 1/2 years at the latest according the that one WHO press conference with Donald trump, remember that

>> No.17722102

>>17722073
to answer your question yes but you stand to lose more if you're wrong, it's just more leverage, also there are things like time decay and iv crush you have to take into account

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>>17722069
WE ABOUT TO HIT CIRCUIT BREAKERS.

>> No.17722106

>>17722038
you can just try with some small amount and see what happens. however ONLY BUY. do not ever sell calls or puts. that is how you get fucked

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>>17721949
literally so based
doomers were right all along

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>>17721948
>we're sorry, all our operators are busy.
>if you would like a callback, please press 3.
>to wait for a customer service representative, please press 1.
>your estimated wait time is. six. months.
>*jaunty royalty free tune plays*

>>17721959
There might be some more action with the airlines in light of US/EU travel ban. More countries may do their own versions of that in coming days.

>> No.17722116

>>17721940
>>17721962
You guys have seen the futures right???

>>17721960
That's not shorting. Shorting is like this:
You have 100 gold coins. I see that the price of gold is going to drop soon, but you don't really care. You just want to know that you have 100 gold coins because you think in 30 years you can retire with them. So I step in and make you a deal, "I'll borrow your gold coins and soon I'll give them all back - no catch". You are basically indifferent to whether or not you have them for a short time, as long as you get them back. So I take your coins and sell them. Then the price for gold drops, and I buy them back. Now I've give you back you're gold and I keep the extra cash.

It's exactly the same for stocks. The stocks you're shorting are just equity to people, and they don't want to liquidate it anyway. When you short a market before it crashes its just good timing, not a crime. Would you blame people for buying stocks before the market rose? The only difference between a riding and falling market is short term fluxuations on retirement funds. So stop whining, and go make some fucking money

>> No.17722117

>>17722048
Oh shit they got it as well as Fidelity and Schwab? https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/fgy56t/covid19_officially_confirmed_at_both_the_fidelity/

>> No.17722120

>>17722074
Cruise companies are fucked, airlines will be fine (majority of US airlines have domestic revenue). Focus on airlines with low debt. Buy leaps, (Delta, Southwest).

>> No.17722122

>>17722038
Yes you can make more profit, but you can also lose a lot more. You can literally lose your entire investment, and it's not that hard for it to happen.

>> No.17722123

>>17721949

Me at the

>Not buying the largest dip in history

>> No.17722131
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Should I sell right now?
I put in 18k and only have 9k remaining.

I'm scared that this is it until we slide 15 more percent. Is there any chance of a bull rising?

>> No.17722139

>>17722086
Buy Southwest they are least exposed to everything happening.

>> No.17722140

>>17722086
oil might stay low just because of the nordstream and russia/saudi

>> No.17722143

>>17722101
*At the earliest. And while it's not been a major effort, there's still no SARS vaccine after two decades. Why would SARS-CoV-2 be any easier?

>> No.17722144

Who else is going into TQQQ calls tomorrow?

>> No.17722149

>>17721991
Trump looks like he is about to keel over dead. Zero energy, slurring his speech, can't read his lines. Did you hear that pig-like snort he made midway through? Did you see how his right eye was basically swollen shut while his left was wide open?
Oh yeah, and the shit he actually said guaranteed the recession lol

>> No.17722153

>>17722105
I hope so, I want there to be a recession just so all the retards in my generation can understand that they should pay attention to the economic state of their country.

>> No.17722155

G-guys
Do Mohammed and dwyer say I can buy the dip yet?

>> No.17722156

>>17722123
haven't even hit dec 2018 crash levels
>>17722131
it's gonna drop more lol

>> No.17722157

>>17722028
this is unironically unprecedented, even H1N1 didn't close every school in the country
>>17722098
>sword
call me a Lindycuck but spears are unironically superior. Easier to use, generally longer reach, can be thrown, and are disposable
I'll have a spear by my side with my trusty knife to make more

>> No.17722158

>>17722131
Bro just hold for 5-10 years lmao

>> No.17722164

>>17722131
I'm thinking if I hold or sell there won't be much of an impact. I'm stuck waiting either way, and a 15% drop isn't worth the stress of uprooting myself.

>> No.17722166

>>17722122
lose my entire investment by buying stock or buying calls? i watched a youtube video and the guy said you only lose your initial deposit if your option stays out of the money, is that worse than losing 10% stock value for example?
t. retard, thank you

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VIRUS ATTACK WITH HATE
CORONA IN THE DEPTHS OF CHINA AWAKES
DEBT AGAINST YOU ALL
FALL AFTER I BUY CALLS

>> No.17722176

>>17722131
Dude honestly, you should just buy some puts. The bottom is likely at 35-45% down unless banks shit the bed (I doubt that since they just had a meeting and said they think the Fed can buy 15T+ of assets if needed).

>> No.17722183

>>17721988
free

>> No.17722184

Italy has a 44% death rate from COVID-19 ...

>> No.17722190

>>17722079
In the future super AI could remove all volatility in the market and maybe everyone would be free of the rat race and actually start producing things of their own.

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>>17721949
holy shit, fucking prophetic

>> No.17722195

>>17722131
>should I sell now
YOU BOUGHT?

>> No.17722196

>>17722139
My dad is a pilot for southwest I can confirm this is true

>> No.17722197

>>17722139
Wouldn’t I want to buy airline stock that will take but hits from this Europe ban? It’ll go back up after the ban is over no?

>> No.17722200

>>17722157
Should we be buying up spears and make post apocalyptic bank?

>> No.17722201

>>17722184
Where are you getting this from?

>> No.17722205

If my SPY puts end up deep ITM, is anybody even going to buy the shit anymore?

>> No.17722206

I've been holding off on investing for so long because I felt like the market was overvalued. Kept waiting and waiting for something to happen and it never did. Now it finally does and it feels pretty surreal.

>> No.17722207

>>17722176
how the fuck can i buy SPY puts when a 1 month out at the money put costs almost 1,000 fucking dollars

>> No.17722210

>>17722153
If we trip the circuit breakers for futures you are gonna have more than a recession to worry about. This is going to be a full on depression.

>> No.17722212

>>17722201
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

>> No.17722217

>>17722063
Chef boyardee is based and one of my favorite historical figures

>> No.17722220

>>17722205
yes but you'll find the spread between buy and ask to be really wide

>> No.17722221

>>17722166
That's when you are buying calls, if you are selling you could end up in a stupid amount of debt to your broker.

>> No.17722223

Is there a way to get in on the housing market if you don't have the cash to outright buy a house? Are boomers going to be downsizing?

>> No.17722225

>>17722156
Yes, we will likely see SPY at 200. Stocks will be a bargain since rates are so low.

Fed will bail out the US government.

>> No.17722226

>>17722158
>>17722156
I know it's to drop, but it'll be back to where it should be in 1 years time.

Is this the start of the next recession though?

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>>17721949
>bearniggers actually believe this
see ya next week when everything's back to normal and my calls are making fucking BANK bobo

>> No.17722231

>>17722140
I’m fine with waiting,

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>>17722183
FREE STOCKS ??!??!?!?

>> No.17722236

I LITERALLY BOUGHT HIGH AND SOLD LOW

>> No.17722237

>>17722116
i dont really have any money. Im just here to shit post. Some anon in another thread said to not bother since it will take 1-2 days for funds to settle in a brokerage account.

>> No.17722240

>>17722196
>>17722139
Delete this. They were going to be my first call option after this crash.

>> No.17722242

Just appreciate that we are living through one of the biggest happenings in our lifetimes

>> No.17722243

>>17722170
kek

>> No.17722245

>>17722217
my favorite is when he crossed the rhine with 50,000 sous chefs and sacked san giorgio

>> No.17722247

>>17722195
I bought 6 months ago and have been holding onto Hudbay minerals, waiting for a rise.

Instead I get stupid shit.

>> No.17722248

>>17722221
yeah, i already heard that selling is suicidal
forgot to mention i only have $800 to trade lol

>> No.17722250

>>17722223
Millennials will finally be able to own their own homes and it only took the destruction of the modern world for it to happen.

>> No.17722251

>>17721924
I guess buying any options is irrelevant for now?
As put options even for like 1900 SP500 costs now ~4% and with a chance to grow to like 10-20 if 1900 is reached. So better just manually short this market with leverage and options are cancerous and dead?

>> No.17722252

>>17722166
both, but it's easier for you to lose everything with calls. To answer your second question sometimes it is and sometimes it isn't, depending on the greeks. I believe most of the time it is worse than losing 10% on the stocks as options provide leverage.

>> No.17722258

>>17722144
Thinking of buying some shares tomorrow, because I'm a degenerate gambler and too much of a brainlet to read about options. I think tomorrow will be the bottom until they quarentine a city.

>> No.17722262

>>17722166
you have no idea of the cost of options premiums. tsla options cost several thousand dollars. a share of tsla is about 600. which would you rather lose?

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>>17722131
SELL NOW THERE’S GONNA BE ANOTHER CRASH

>> No.17722264

>>17722212
That's 44% of closed cases, not all cases.

>> No.17722265

>>17722236
:((((((((((

>> No.17722267

>>17722207
Buy deep puts just incase. I'm not saying ITM shit, but say like July-August SPY 200P.

That will protect you in the case that we go into a full blown crash, but if not your portfolio will recover so you'll be ok.

>> No.17722275

>>17722250
fair trade

>> No.17722279

>>17722248
You picked a hell of a market to begin to learn trading options. Yo do you like cock and ball torture too?

>> No.17722283

>>17722200
Checked

Yep. I hate conspirofags but this is too much. The guy makes a 2 min announcement on something he knows will crash the market, and offers zero stimulus.

He’s been in business at the highest levels for decades. Sorry lads. Till sanders wins the presidency, expect this shit to continue.

Once he wins he’ll retroactively confiscate all yours gainz anyway. GG bois.

>> No.17722292

>>17722222

>> No.17722297

>>17722206
Just pray to God this is not going end up in the second great depression.

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>>17722236

>> No.17722309

>>17722267
Still, 500+ for a 17 July 200 SPY put seems completely fucking insane
There's no way it's going THAT low, surely.

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>>17721949
>great depression and Plague, Inc pics
>>not buying the largest dip in history
>"LOL PRICED IN"

is this actually going to happen though /biz/?

>> No.17722315

>>17722283
>Rolling right from capitalist down turn to socialist famine
Welp. Here we go.

>> No.17722317

>>17722210
Good, I have plenty of time to recover and rebuild my life, its all the other dumb millennials with meme degrees and all the thots who get preferential treatment and easy jobs who will suffer.

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>Just keep buying the dip, you fuckign pussy

>> No.17722321

>>17722283
>once Sanders wins

anon... I...

>> No.17722323
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17722323

How can you all recommend buying puts or tvix when vix is already through the goddamn roof?

>> No.17722327

Why is Southwest a good pick right now as opposed to waiting for other airlines to drop and buying them cheap?

>> No.17722329

>>17722223
There are several ETFs I think that provide exposure to investment groups in the real estate market

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I think I caught something
It's not the coronavirus

Whatever it is, I feel somewhat despondent outwardly, but at the same time very horny and aggressive

>> No.17722334

>>17722223
Boomers will be panic selling their houses this spring after the hits their 401ks took.
Also,
>what is a mortgage?

>> No.17722338

>>17721938
Wait, fren. Wait until a president, prime minister, or some head of state gets infected. Then you'll get cheapies galore.

>> No.17722339

>>17722200
absolutely yes, we can spartan-kill zombie chinks like in 300

>> No.17722341

>>17722279
i'm not gonna knock something until i try it
and is it really that bad of a month? as soon as my paycheck comes in friday i'm dumping my money in SQQQ like all the anons said

>> No.17722342

>>17722228
You really believe that moomoo?

>> No.17722347

>>17722309
the federal government has exhausted all options just to keep the market from correcting over the last year which includes unprecedented overreach in the repo market
that was prior to a global pandemic
what do you think

>> No.17722353

>>17722327
southwest is a regional carrier and will do a little better until every state is quarantined
>my best guess

>> No.17722359

>>17722341
Too late for SQQQ

>> No.17722361

>>17722341
Kek I wish you luck nigger.

>> No.17722363
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>>17722320
>time in the market beats timing the market, pleb

>> No.17722367

>>17722332
Your body is getting ready for the Armageddon.

>> No.17722369

>>17722228
>DOW dropped 1k after trump said one thing tonight
>still bulling
bold fucking move, tard

>> No.17722371

>>17722251
SOMEONE EXPERIENCED EXPLAIN. IS OPTIONS ARE ON AMAZINGLY HIGH RISE AND IT'S IRRELEVANT TO BUY THOSE NOW AND BETTER JUST SHORT THE SP500 MANUALLY?

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>> No.17722376

>>17722332
Do you have a history of depression and are you on any stimulants i.e. Adderall?

>> No.17722381

>>17722327
most airlines won't make it out of this alive
those that do will capitalize on the loss of others and differentiate to stabilize their finances
southwest is the only airline that's already differentiated

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went we just like 5 point away from nother breaker?

>> No.17722389

>>17722321
Imagine if Biden actually croaks, then trump too. Kek

>> No.17722391

>>17722236
Same, lost $1k in 3 days feels good boys

>> No.17722397

>>17722363
>boomer advice
>uses tinder

Anon I got news for you.

>> No.17722403

>>17722353
Right, but long term, buying cheaper ones once they drop, and then having them go back up seems better. Am I missing something?

>> No.17722404

Circuit breaker when?

>> No.17722405

>>17722361
thanks, you too
>>17722359
can't hurt right? i imagine monday will be a massacre, especially if this is a depression coming up. i could still make money off sqqq, and if not should i look to VIX/TVIX/VXX or other shit?

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>>17722375
I haven’t read it yet, what she have to say? I’m pretty sure they were saying not to buy the dip weeks ago.

>> No.17722411

>>17722309
>There's no way it's going THAT low, surely.
It definitely could, and don't call me Shirley.

>> No.17722413

>>17721765
This is gonna be 9/11 in at least a dozen American cities.

If Trump doesn't lock down the country soon it's gonna be 9/11 in dozens and multiple times worse than 9/11 in a dozen cities due to exponential growth

We have capacity to save maybe 500k-1m people from this disease. The treatment requires equipment that exists in limited quantity and is not stockpiled with extra surge capacity or slack (i.e., most of it is already in use).

There's very little spare ventilator and oxygenation equipment available but 20% of the infected will need it for 3-6 weeks. This spreads worse than the flu.

As long as total infected in the US stay below 500k nationwide, we can MAYBE avoid having tens of thousands of people dying in hospital hallways, not just without treatment but without even being assessed for treatment.

If you're over 65 in Italy right now and you go to the hospital because you can't breathe, they ignore you and let you die without any attention.

If you're a young person but you have diabetes or something? Same thing. It came right from an Italian doctor on Twitter. They said forget treatment, these kinds of patients aren't even assessed. They're prioritizing those with greatest chances of survival and lifetime remaining. The rest die.

Doubling time of infected has been about 4 days outside China for a while, though I'm not sure what it was yesterday/today.

There are some estimates that put us at somewhere like 40k-700k total infected nationwide so we could actually already be at the threshold where we'll see hospitals fill up as, iirc, the virus takes a couple weeks to kill once you see symptoms.

Once the life-saving equipment is full, any new cases have a 20% death rate just because being in that 20% is guaranteed death when there's no equipment to keep you breathing.

If we're at something like 250k total infected in the us right now then Trump has maybe 4 days to lockdown all major cities and stop the spread.

>> No.17722414

>>17722347
Yes that's true, however the orange man still has a card to play in the form of a stimulus. Surely that would prevent SPY from reverting back to mid 2016...Ultimately it's just a pandemic that should significantly decrease in the next 2-3 months. Oil price alone isn't enough to rape the markets like this

>> No.17722415

>>17722038
option has the implied volatility meaning the more people that buy an option the higher the price goes when leveraged against the stock price. The option leverage is calculated by multiply the strike price with delta divide by option price and then subtract by 1. You can look up the delta value in any trading app you are using. Option calls works to your advantage if

1. you didn't buy the top (or the bottom if your a bear)
2. the expiration date is far away in the future that you don't get hit by time decay during holding

This is one way of taking profit from options, you can do vertical put spreads for long position but this is more complicated.

>> No.17722429

>>17722327
Haven’t airlines already been running empty flights with no people just to not lose their slots? I read an article on it yesterday.

>> No.17722434

Really thinking about pulling the trigger for VXX Puts

>> No.17722437

>>17722403
long term sure, but if you want to make money short term you short the airlines

too late anyways, by the time markets open theyll be rekt

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>>17722363
>Why haven't you bought any thicc stonks yet, anon?
>What are you, gay?

>> No.17722443

>>17722429
Yes. They are.

>> No.17722444

>>17722404
ironically enough seems to be the only resistance point the market has held against since 10:00
I don't know if that holds though, ASX and nikkei getting body slammed again

>> No.17722449

>>17722332
Your body wants to reproduce before it dies.

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>>17722404
my calculations showing it would be 2602
anyone else have better number?

>> No.17722457

>>17722376
no and yes

>> No.17722465

>>17722210
We already did

>> No.17722466

>>17722384
ppt is trying to keep it going. fuck them

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>>17722384
>Albedo
Baste.

>> No.17722480

Which one of you guys did this?
https://twitter.com/MisterAntiBully/status/1237950874640662529

>> No.17722482

>>17722440
that looks a lot like my RH account hehe

>> No.17722484
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17722484

Why didn't I sell?

>> No.17722490

>>17722315

Game was rigged from the start. Whatever. Everyone bought into the new psycho news media culture and stopped reading books.

It’s not like it was a forced takeover. We all only have ourselves to blame. Eating shoe leather and praying to Lenin’s portrait here we come.

Best investment you can make rn is to brush up on your commie history for when the NKVD stop by your apartment and decide

Kill Capitalist Pig ?

(Y/N)

>> No.17722491

Don't get caught off guard. I got my SQQQ and SPXU, but tomorrow isn't going to go like you think and that exactly why you'll be caught off guard. Trump met with the BANKS today AND increased REPOs to 200 BILLION. The fact that flights aren't immediately stopped is part of the plan. Be careful tomorrow.

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https://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks/world-indexes/asia-pacific

HOLY SHIT THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS IS HERE. THIS IS ACTUALLY IT!

>> No.17722494

>>17722465
No we didn't. The breaker is activated when the S&P500 hits -5%. It has not yet.

>> No.17722499

>>17722466
its literally there job

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>>17722480
idk looks fine to me

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17722515

why does crypto follow the stock market?
or, why doesn't crypto not follow the stock market?

>> No.17722517

>>17722437
I might go with long term so it’s probably good they get wrecked. I have a day job so this day trading is a hassle currently. Maybe if I start making enough I can just do this instead but I doubt I could make that much.

>> No.17722519

>>17722389
The only survivor will be AOC.

>> No.17722521

>>17722490
I only kill commie fucks.

>> No.17722524

>>17722484
You still can and probably should

>> No.17722526

>>17722440
Nice guro kek

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>>17722493
>mfw 80% of my portfolio going into tonight is leveraged negative ETFs

>> No.17722530

>>17722131
>18k

I'm making money right now but posts like this honestly make me feel like shit. What's coming is going to ruin so many people. I pray for you anon that the governments will liquidate GS and BOA and the billionaires and my earnings and distribute the literal decade of your life that has been stolen.

>> No.17722537

>>17722405
Can hurt, SH much safer.
I’m way too scared do you leverage after A move that severe.

>>17722457
Adderall can have that effect on you.

>>17722466
It’s not a circuit breaker for futures, it’s a limit it just can’t go any lower than that.

>>17722480
I bought back nrz today yay!!!
Gonna be rich!!!

>>17722477
>>17722384
God I can’t choose between big titty albedo desperate for dick and no titty Megumin explosion.

>>17722389
>>president pence

>> No.17722540

>>17722363
wew what have your losses been since that drop?

>> No.17722541

>>17722231
Might do the same and get a few to hodl for a long time unless the market gets destroyed which it will...

>> No.17722542

HOLY FUCKING SHIT VIX SHOT UP TO 54 IN LIKE 3 HOURS WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON BROS

>> No.17722544

>>17722515
When times are bad, people pull out all their investments as cash

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>>17722493
I picked a good time to get into UVXY again.

>> No.17722552

>>17722413
Glad to see someone so tuned in.
We only have 70k total ventilators in the US.
Also in Italy they aren’t even treating people for heart related emergencies, they get triaged too. Even after this is over the total impacted deaths from this will be hard to quantity.

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>>17722397
>Anon I got news for you.
Why the heckies my pp get big when i look at anime girl???
PLS RESPONDE

>> No.17722567

https://www.trueswords.com/M48-Magnum-Spear-With-Sheath-32742

Invest as heavily as possible in SPR lads.
Anyone know where in the US would be most easily defended via spear?

>> No.17722569

>>17722363
>>17722440
Dude you suck at this, quit it.

>> No.17722590

>>17722541
Looking at GUSH just from before the 9th, it’s a huge profit to reach at that level, which I don’t see why it wouldn’t eventually, even if it’s in June like some say.

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when will this be over? is it just going to get worse?

>> No.17722593

>>17722517
trading for a living is never good... day trading is hardly profitable without a huge account anyways

overnight movement matters a lot in a market like this, just buy what you think and hold for 1-2 days

keep ur job

>> No.17722594

>>17722515
>>17722515
The wealth effect, and the whatever the opposite of the wealth effect is.

>> No.17722595
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17722595

post cute bears

>> No.17722596

>>17722443
When does that not become economically viable to do? Is it a do or die scenario? If an airline stops flying empty flights could that be used to predict if it is about to tank?

>> No.17722603

>>17722524
Is it really going to be that bad?

>> No.17722618

GUYS

IF SHALE FRACKERS SHUT DOWN AND/OR GO OUT OF BUSINESS, NG WILL MOON.

Y/N???

>> No.17722620

SOMEONE GIBE ME YOU HECKING CIRCUTE BREAKER NUMBER?

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>>17722131
guys its really fucking simple. You don't sell stocks unless you need cash. If you're afraid of stocks losing value you don't sell them, you hold onto them.

BUY

AND HODL

>> No.17722627

>>17722515
>because crypto is a retarded ponzu scheme that is a 100% manipulated.

>> No.17722633

>>17722494
>>17722491
>>17722453
>>17722527
>>17722530

Imagine actually thinking you’re going to be able to get into your accounts tmrw and trade b4 the breaker hits.

You and your 14k$ wage cuck money are not the priority in the collapse of the global financial system.

Just read the tea leaves on this thread. Zero bulls left. None. All throughout this /biz/ has had no less than 35% bulls. No one is going to buy at anything less than -20%

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>>17722595

>> No.17722643

>>17722530
and by that you are basically referring to the purchasing power that has been eroded from 2008 onward at this point, causing someone aged 24-30 right now to have to work an extra 10 years just to save up enough to retire, even if they're plan involved bugging out to east asia?

>> No.17722649

Rule 1: Never attempt to run from bears

Rule 2: When confronted by a bear, play dead as best as possible

>> No.17722651

>>17722603
dude kek
They SUSPENDED ALL FLIGHTS TO USA

Its horrifically worse then tgey telling us
Apocalypse tier O_O

>> No.17722655

>>17722490
7.62 Millimeter. Full. Metal. Jacket.

Fuckin commie scum

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>>17722375
>Chucky Schwabbers would like to recommend you PANIC SELL EVERYTHING NOW WHAT THE FUCK IT'S ALL COMING APART-AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17722675

>>17722651
>They SUSPENDED ALL FLIGHTS TO USA
Wait what I thought it was just europe?

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How low is the market going to go?

>> No.17722683

>>17721924
First time playing with puts. So buy it at $111 for the strike price and then just hold until at least the RUT index crosses below 1100 points and take my profits when I see fit??? Is that right?

Someone please help me understand - i don't know how i pick strike price

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Okay I've formulated a plan.
The market will be red tomorrow pre-market, for sure
But Jerome is currently charging his spirit bomb. One trillion dollar pump will make the biggest, largest, greenest dildo you have ever seen
However, it will all come tumbling down. Before it does, I load up on SPY puts.
That's my plan.

>> No.17722697

This is the bottom. Calling it right now. Green from here on out.

>> No.17722698

>>17722540
13k, check my other posts in th thread
>>17722482
>>17722526
>>17722569
Thx. Pic is from today. All SSO and SPXL, with 5k left in cash that I almost dumped on more SPXL today w/ limit order set to $36.25. $5k more currently transferring in.

>>17722537
>God I can’t choose between big titty albedo desperate for dick and no titty Megumin explosion.
Heresy.
Albedo is great, but I can never put her in top tier with best girl

>> No.17722701

>>17722633
What was it that an anon said in another thread? Only buy in at 80% bears and 20% dead’s?
I hadn’t really considered using /biz/ for actual market sentiment but it’s true, there are usually still some bulls.
Maybe they went to sleep?

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>>17722681
0

>> No.17722703

eventually you gotta pay the piper

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TVIX skyrocketed before I could get my grubby hands on it.

How much room does SQQQ have to grow? Why was it over $80 a year ago in a good market? Is that a product of absolute numbers? Where is Market is over all doing well even the stocks supposedly inverse of it also do well? Please explain to retard Ty

>> No.17722707

>>17722697
:-----DDDDDD

>> No.17722710

>>17722603
Yeah probably, watch this shit
https://youtu.be/hw4GGrYTHog

>> No.17722711

i'm floating 10 eth right now, just doing nothing. since crypto is also doing poorly, what ought i do with this?

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>>17722633
>he thinks tomorrow is the bottom
why would I sell

>> No.17722716

>>17722681
It'll rebound right when you start to sincerely entertain the idea of potential -90% and panic sell.

>> No.17722717

>>17722681
Lower than however low you're thinking.

>> No.17722719

>>17722697
How when travel between Europe and America is banned?...

>> No.17722724

REMINDER THAT BOTTOMS ONLY COME AFTER THE SECOND BUNNY EAR

>>17722662
Now now what’d they really say?

>> No.17722728

>>17722688
But where does the dildo end? That is the question.

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post yfw Trump dies in the next few days from his obvious infection and the markets crash through the fucking floor with no survivors

>> No.17722746

>>17722728
When the mushroom tip forms, that's when it's time to blow my load.

>> No.17722755

>>17722649
So... hold?

>> No.17722756
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>>17722681
Lower than 2008, calling it now. This is the happening. Global Financial melt down triggered by world wide biological pandemic and political/ economic unrest.

Has anyone forgotten there have been, literal, riots poping off all over the world for the last 3 years also????? This is it man, this shit is gonna be depression levels.

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>>17722688
>But Jerome is currently charging his spirit bomb.
Fukken kek

>> No.17722762

>>17722705
It was over 80 a year ago because the market fundamentals were as fucked as they are now and I'm talking about bonds having shit value. Kill yourself you ignorant gay ass piece of shit for being too lazy to use Google to look this up. I hope you die of AIDS

>> No.17722773

>>17722746
The last coom of a dying age.

>> No.17722778
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My guess is Monday is going to be the bottom. Monday will be -7% again and then we will crab for months until summer and things start going back to normal.

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This is it. Its priced in. This is the bottom.
There's simply no way for it to go any lower. Its factually inprobable. Nay, impossible.
Lets quit the charades and buy back in. Its time to get back out of your bunker.

>> No.17722780

i fell for the bull trap

>> No.17722781

>>17722681
see these
>>17722702
>>17721949

>> No.17722783

You guys imagine what it would be like if this didn't happen on an election year?

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>>17722633
we litterally watching and trading futures dude
me can sell right now if wanted -_-;

also AM ASKING WHAT FKING NUMBER DO PEOPLE HAVE FOR CIRCUTE BREAKER HIT?

>> No.17722801

Buy inovio

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>>17722008
Ahhhhhhhhhhh

>> No.17722804

>>17722762
This is not the correct way to look at these leveraged funds. They have to be split every so often or they would decay to pennies, so it’s not quite right to compare its current price to the price a year ago.

You smug cunt

>> No.17722806

>>17722683
CAN SOMEONE FUCKING ANSWER ME


HOLY SHIT

>> No.17722809

reminder the bottom will be earlier than you and /biz/ think it will be, unless its zero then your fucked anyway

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How many AMZN for a cute bf?

>> No.17722819

>>17722783
Who cares? Democrats would still be bitching like the complete and utterly shameless faggots they are. We should really tear their skins off alive and let them die like flesh less dogs.

>> No.17722823

>>17722705

Leveraged etfs do weird shit and aren’t meant to be held long. Like options, they shouldn’t be fucked with until you know what you’re doing.

>> No.17722826

>>17722790
They trigger at 5%

>> No.17722830

>>17722778
We need to start event trading but on a macroscopic scale.
From all this anarchy all of the world’s hopes are going to merge onto singular, political events, I can feel it.

>> No.17722831

>>17722809
...good point
But I still think we’re going to December 2018 but not in a straight line.

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>>17722779
That's the spirit there young man, it's time to buy! Buy! Buy! Time to let your old buddy Al pass you the torches on these wonderful and properly priced stocks so I can retire in peace!

>> No.17722834

>>17722804
Wow look at you, why don't you look up when they did the reverse split.

>> No.17722838

>>17722778
>Monday being the bottom when the spread is just getting started here
The amount of cope in this post is unreal

>> No.17722839

>>17722823
even non-leveraged ETFs are fked up right now
like SPY's tracking am AWFUL

like whole .30 cents off from yesturday

>> No.17722844

>>17722809
i don't see how we could realistically have a bottom priced in before next week at the very earliest with cases continuing to expand exponentially in the us. this is actually not hard to predict - we have about 2-3 weeks of panic and then presumably things will start to pick up, provided oil is allowed to recover.

if oil is not allowed to come back up we have a serious fucking problem, a systemic problem that will cause a financial crisis. we're flirting with financial crisis as it is.

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>>17722826
am going to kill you

>> No.17722859

>>17722830
How about no and you are gay.

>> No.17722863

waiting for next green day to go all in on puts what should i buy?

>> No.17722865

>>17722014
Bad. This may be the bottom nobody knows

>> No.17722866

>>17722831
i agree with you, but people are expecting 2008 when the dotcom bust is probably a better analog

>> No.17722867

>>17722830
shut up fag

>> No.17722872

>>17722844
The full hit on this virus shit isn't coming for another three weeks at least. Also your grandma is going to die so please call her

>> No.17722886

>>17722863
>green day

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>>17722833
Every single time /smg/ says the market is in free fall, the day ends in green. Last Week, the week before, I could go on.

You faggots secretly wish that the economy collapses, so that your shitty trading prowess will somehow be "excused". Remember BVLLS, he who dares wins.

>> No.17722899

>>17722865
How the fuck is this the bottom in your eyes?

>> No.17722908

>>17722844
You mean we have 2-3 weeks until the ACTUAL panic.
We are riding that exponential function just behind Italy. We ain’t South Korea.

>> No.17722911
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>>17722830
Yes, and that singularity will be FUCK CHINA!

>>17722838
>cope
Not cope, its called having a plan. I bought a ton of puts and inverse ETFs and slowly selling them off while buying cheap stocks. Next year I might be able to buy a house with almost no interest.

>> No.17722913

>>17722872
three weeks is probably max concurrent infections, but in terms of major news events (such as NBA cancelling season) and stock market's reaction i'm forecasting 2-3. i don't think it's going *much* lower than another 15% down, but it's not going up until this shit is dealt with. i expect trump will lift the 30 day ban in about 21 days.

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>>17722872
>tfw my grandparents are already dead so I don't have to worry about them dying
It's a bittersweet feel

>> No.17722923

>>17722866
Lmao, we are already way past the dot com bubble, my dude.

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>>17722790
>>17722826
Partially wrong. I believe it's 5% for futures and possibly big cap stocks.
For indices, it halts at 7%, 13%, and 20%

>> No.17722938

buy calls tommorow??????? when?

>> No.17722941

>>17722823
Yeah, I mean. I just learned WTF Split shares are. So perhaps putting $2200 into SQQQ isn't the smartest move.

Still, I don't see how this Wouldn't make at least a little bit of return if I bought, and held till the end of the week?

>> No.17722943

>meema died jan
>left a trust, it's all in the market
>talk to the lawyer couple weeks ago, says he's going on vacation first two weeks of march
>no call back to 3 voicemails left when shit started to hit the fan

what the fuck should i do
i see currently a collective 17% drop from what shit was on feb 29th. only just got the holdings details on monday, proctor, chevron, johnson, intel, was at ~27k, now at ~22k

if i get through to anyone tomorrow, should i still sell everything and buy back in later?
might just even pull it all for credit card payoff and close the trust

>> No.17722948

>>17722908
objectively the markets are, and have been, panicking for about 3 weeks now. we have about 3 weeks until cases peak in the US, and peak panic I believe will hit before then. I'm going to DCA in 50% of my cash starting in 2 weeks.

>> No.17722950

>>17722038
1 call is a contract over an underlying asset. you gain the option to buy 100 stock at a specific price and that contract expires at a particular time.

example:

AAPL is trading at $300

Scenario 1.) You buy 100 AAPL at $300/share for $30,000

Scenario 2.) You buy 1 call AAPL at a strike price $300, expires April, at $7/share, for $700

Result:
A.) AAPL is at $350 by April
1.) sell 100 AAPL @ $350, $5000 profit
2.) sell 1 call AAPL, [($350-$300)*100]-$700 = $4300 profit

B.) AAPL is at $300 by April
1.) sell 100 AAPL @ $300 for $0 profit
2.) call expires worthless, $0-$700 = -$700 profit

c.) AAPL is at $250 by April
1.) sell 100 AAPL @ $250, -$5000 profit
2.) call expires worthless, $0-$700 = -$700 profit

There's advantages and disadvantages to each. If you buy the stock, you pay full price, you participate in upward/downward movement and you own the equity. If you buy the call you pay a relatively small price, participate in upward movement minus your cost, you participate in limited downward movement but lose your principal, and you own no equity.

>> No.17722953

>>17722896
Bulls in cope mode.

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I didnt want a yacht anyways, its a liability

>> No.17722956

>>17722923
Oh my no. You're way off. Dot com was -49% peak to valley.

>> No.17722960

>>17722806
Don't trade if you don't know what you're doing. Buying an option now is super expensive because volatility/premiums are sky high and when we bounce (there are always bounces) you risk volatility crush.

Anyways, if you want to learn basics check out option alpha. The videos are structured for beginners. Whatever strike price you pick is up to you. Delta is typically the percentage chance of finished in the money at expiration, but this market isn't typical. It still shows how the value of the position changes for each tick in the underlying asset, and gamma after that. Options that expire sooner will be cheaper, but if you're not careful Theta will kill you (time decay). You'll probably want to close your position before expiration because then you get whatever value the ticker moved plus remaining time value. But that's up to you. Learn about risk management so you don't blow up your account. Well anyways check out those videos I mentioned, lots to cover

>> No.17722962

>selling stocks cause you're scared
>not understanding what happens during times like these if you're holding cash
I would hope anyone that got shaken out was smart enough to move to boomer rocks because haha money printer go brrrrrr

>> No.17722968

>>17722956
where are we at now just out of curiosity from ATH? about 30%?

>> No.17722974

>>17722866
Dunno
Unprecedented fall
Tomorrow the drumpftarded boomers wake up and panic...

>>17722858
Literally just take the closing price and multiply it by 0.95. Bingo bongo.
Now I expect you to post your WOW main and a picture of your bussy.

>> No.17722977

>>17722938
futures are literally at -4% already, it's going to another massacre tomorrow

>> No.17722979

What moves are you guys making when the market opens? Spy puts?

>> No.17722984

>>17722683
IS THE RUSSEL INDEX PUT IDEA GOOD OR NO

>> No.17722985

>>17722968
-19% as of today's close. Lowest was -20% earlier in the day.

>> No.17722986

>>17722911
Imagine a scenario where the US and China have a serious trade disagreement where China’s drug production and drug precursors are being used as leverage against us.
These kind of events will become everything. You take hundreds of millions of people freaking out over the virus and collapsed medical system and the market could hang on something like that.

>> No.17722988

>>17722381
how are they differentiated

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>>17722936
>Futures

What do you think we're watching right now, nigger?

>> No.17722999

>>17722991
>>17722991
>>17722991
\\the buy zone

>>17722991
>>17722991

>>17722991

>>17722991

>> No.17723001

>>17722948
Why do you think cases will peak in 3 weeks?

>> No.17723002

>>17722863
>green

Next time you’ll see green on the screen is when you break it open for the rusted copper inside, to attempt to barter for your anus to avoid being the Great Humongous’s ass slave.

Start playing fallout as practice bois.

>> No.17723005

>>17722985
Including current futures it's about -22% for S&P.

>> No.17723007

>>17722962
>because it's not like years of growth are getting obliterated in a matter of weeks
Fucking pathetic outlook, the market was over priced as fuck to begin with. Who are you kidding???

>> No.17723012

>>17722552
Definitely.

None of us in any of our lifetimes, or our grandparents, have seen the death this could cause.

It's not guaranteed. Bigger cities could enact stricter social distancing, some people might become more aware and change their behavior enough to buy time until Trump locks down (oh God I hope he does), but right now there is the potential for 10% of the US' population to simply die in the next few months.

Merkel is saying Germany will have 70% infected, as if she doesn't care or realize that means 14% of Germany would die.

Imagine being so afraid of causing vague "panic" or nudging your precious economy that you would sacrifice 14% of your population... And still cause panic and an economic crash because losing 14% (about 1 in 7 Germans) of your population in just a few months is going to absolutely devastate any country.

And imagine with free movement between Germany and other EU countries, Germany is basically dooming the entire EU to Italy's fate or worse if they actually let themselves become a viral breeding ground with 70% infected.

>> No.17723013

>>17722038
Basically you can leverage yourself alot more with options. But you will lose everything if you fuck up.

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>>17722823
>>17722839
I'm very proud of the 6+ month SSO baghold I've been going on, and fully intend to keep buying the shit out of SPXL and hold until I see SPY hit a new high.
Screenshot this.

For clarity, game plan:
>Buy the shit out of the dip with SPXL
>No selling of anything until SPY hits a new high

>> No.17723031

>>17722505
>actually using wealthsimple

>> No.17723030

>>17722986
>China competintly using something as leverage instead of the typical monkey shit retarded faggot pieces of shit like you are
Kill yourself retarded faggot.

>> No.17723038

>>17722950
This is why I like biz over anything else. Y'all simplify it for autists like me and I appreciate it

>> No.17723051

>>17722984
That's the RUT right, those options are super expensive even when volatility is low, so depends on your account size and risk management (I don't risk more than 3% of my portfolio per position)

You can always find a cheaper ticker and buy more options, that works too.

>> No.17723053

>>17723001
exponential growth can only sustain for so long. new cases and outbreak clusters will continue sporadically for months, but the worst of it in terms of spread will be in about 2-3 weeks.

>> No.17723081

>>17721924
So this is how the Trump recession begins.

>> No.17723093

>>17723012
death rates aren't that high. 10% is absurd. 0.1% of the TOTAL population would be a nightmare scenario. realistically it will kill about .05% tops.

>> No.17723101

>>17722896
You're insane. I don't day trade I buy index funds like a normal person. I also sold all of them a couple months ago when this repo shit started. And if you didn't, you're stupid. If this is anything like 2008 I will be buying at the bottom and realizing 500% returns on my fucking index funds during the NEXT bullshit federal reserve bubble.
Keep picking stocks bullfags you'll never defeat MACROBEARS

>> No.17723117

>>17722913
Ah, true. Psychologically it will hit sooner

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>>17722986
They need every penny the US will give them. They have no bargaining power in reality. After corona is over, business will be migrating portions of their business out of China and governments across the world will rip China apart. It is a reckoning long overdue.

>> No.17723122

>>17723012
Social distancing is hard to do for most people in cities if telecommuting isn’t possible.
Subway is a box that you depend on in NYC. Metro North is a commute millions depend on. As it turns out in a bus-like environment corona can infect a person from 3.5 meters away at the very least.
Does anyone have the balls to shut down trains and subways?

>> No.17723138

>>17723030
They’re already threatening it. What would probably happen is a trade agreement gets struck in our favor, so buying in before it is resolved could be unusually beneficial.

>> No.17723169

>>17723117
yep - that's what we're timing here. psychologically tonight has been by far the worst for the average american moron. sportsball being cancelled and yurp flights cancelled is bad news in terms of public sentiment. the strict quarantines will start early next week at the very latest, followed by peak case growth on or around the 27th

>> No.17723219

>>17723169
Mass school shutdowns are beginning already. That’s huge.

>> No.17723225

>>17722052
Recurring expenses (rent, upkeep, food for humans) still have to be paid, but revenue is falling sharply (didn't Italy just close the whole country?)
So you've got produce rotting in ship holds, landlords demanding rent, employees going on the dole to avoid starvation, while you post -45% revenue for the quarter.

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>> No.17723253

>>17723051
I'm going to just do IWM on Robinhood. It's only gonna cost me $224 to do this???

What other cheaper tickets do you reccomend?

>> No.17723272

>>17722962
Are you sure? I imagine the Fed could print mountains of money and not devalue the dollar by 10%... Meanwhile anyone who didn't sell during the repo bullshit is down 20%

>> No.17723287

>>17723081
it really is. virus or not the markets been misfiring for a while. a month ago it was up 1%, next day up 1%, next day up 2%. like that shits not normal and not sustainable. the engine has been misfiring for a while.

and now in true trump retardation a week ago he called the whole thing a hoax and everything was fine. puts pence in charge of it, a guy that doesnt believe in evolution and calls his wife mother. americans are fat, dont have health coverage, go to work sick, dont understand the concept of taking a couple weeks off work. its going to spread like fucking wildfire.

and the recession is going to be a mindset. people still have money but the party is kinda over. a month ago everyone, that was invested and had their shit together, had fuck you money so to speak. now? its like, well hold on, lets think about this, im not printing money anymore, no i dont think should buy this, that car costs how much? And god forbid i go and do anything, even if flights and vacations are half off fuck that noise.

this is the one. its not going to off half the population or anything like that, but this is the beginning of a fucked economy for a while.

>> No.17723337

>>17722131
wait a year or two lol

>> No.17723340

>>17721924

normies still think corona is a meme/hoax

what are they thinking holy shit. and then there s the buy and hold cult

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>>17722363
I don't get it?
This retard is gonna wait 3-5 years to make up for the profits he's losing now
Everyone knows it's going down and he still buys

>> No.17723376

Isn't SQQQ just perfect?As I mean it acts weirdly in case of down and grow for a lot, like 10% up/down tons of times.
But if you are in long term trend without much of corrections you are gonna get a gains additional profits compared to just shorting x3, aren't you?As ETF x3 long on bull market grew amazingly in 5 years.

>> No.17723379

>>17723346
buy when everyone is scared, sell when everyone is on cloud 9.

>> No.17723389

>>17723287
Pensions are going to get fucked real hard, a lot of them were already headed for insolvent.
If we have to bail out these boomers I'm going to be so fucking mad

>> No.17723394

its game over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw4GGrYTHog&t=524s

>> No.17723455

>>17723389
right. the funny thing is people only see what they lost the last couple weeks. DOW was at like 16-17k when trump got elected. everyone is still up relative to that. i mean, even if DOW is at 15k next week it's kinda like nothing happened. being up 20 30 40% per year was fun, but for fucks sake that's hollow gain.

>> No.17723495

>>17723389
>If

we've been doing it for decades, and its starting to catch up to us.

>> No.17723734

>>17723495
if its been going on for decades then its sustainable. fucking hate to type that but it is.