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RED FRIDAY EDITION

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Previously on /smg/:
>>17601721

>> No.17603425
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First for fuck tripfags.

>> No.17603447

>>17603411
Are my puts going to allow me to quit waging for good?

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>>17603447
I feel like it’ll be green today bc we all expect it to be red kek

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>>17603447
i'll root for you anon

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>>17603411
I eat poop

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>>17603466
Futures are at 297 rn and it's a Friday, I can't imagine anything other than a pathetic 0 volume pump around lunch time.

>> No.17603495

>>17603466

We all expected it to be red today, and it was fucking red.

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>>17603447
Based and neetpilled
I hope so anon, I hope so

>> No.17603593

I think the only way to stop this crash is to slow it down by lowering the transaction speed, that way people will sell lower.

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I just wanted to invest, this market is not normal, I want to go back to the 90's or 80's.


I cry everynight.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzex-nN2yM0

>> No.17603600

I need KHC to stay below 28 for the next week.. is this possible?? can it stay below 28 for a week? I don't want my shares called away

>> No.17603602

>>17603411
Hello friends, why are triptrannies so desperate to make threads?

>> No.17603608

fuck this crab thread

>> No.17603611

>>17603602
neither thread is made by a trip..... please lurk more newfag

>> No.17603615

Cute thread is much better than this fag thread.

>> No.17603617

>>17603596
Fuck I miss the 90's. They promised us flying cars but all we got were 140 characters and trannies.

>> No.17603618

imagine just holding bitcoin

>> No.17603621

Explain why I should invest into SNSS

>> No.17603622
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>>17603593
There is no stopping it, hopefully they do everything they can to accelerate it so I can get rich and then we can bounce back.
>>17603621
you don't
don't do it

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Deutsche bank defaults on monday

>> No.17603633

>>17603596
Personally, I am 25% bagholding (refuse to sell for a loss), and 75% SQQQ/SPXS. Remember, cash is a position. Even the pros pull out when the market is this choppy.

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>stock market looking good to me!

>> No.17603647

>>17603635
unironically it's starting to look good to me. i want oil stocks and amd.

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What about India bonds?

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>>17603647
buy buy buy my friend, Schlomo and Moshe still have some shares they need to get rid of.

>> No.17603715

>>17603633
pros aren't using my quant method
mo volatility mo money

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>>17603649
They are, ironically, in the toilet too.

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>>17603596
>That song
>that album cover pic

damn that hit hard.

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17603744

We are at return to mean.

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>Buy SQQQ
Almost spilled my coffee laughing. Anything below SQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ is cuck tier. X20 short on swedish omxs30 overnight. Opens in 2h

>> No.17603763

>>17603744
Dude this shit hasn’t even returned to “normal” yet.

>> No.17603939

>>17603659
there's no way that's real...

I mean he is clown president 100%, but what the hell?

>> No.17603966

>>17603939
he's self-admittedly not a "stock market guy", he knows real estate

>> No.17603972

>>17603939
>>17603966
yikes

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>>17603763
Nah, we are good.

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>>17603978
>imblying the debt bubble implosion won't carry us into Great Depression pt. 2 electric boogaloo

>> No.17604030

>>17603939
>there's no way that's real...
A leftist foaming out the mouth to get one at Trump thought it was real and then all the seals following him thought it was real.
Even snopes says it's fake as fuck.

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>> No.17604039

Well its fucking settled anons, Cramer says its the golden bull, time to buy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MT4VTzwKoo

>> No.17604041

>>17603966
Trump is not an anything financial related guy. An exact quote from him, or insanely close to it, one of the quick quotes in front of a helicopter
> When the dollars strong....the dollars so strong right now, we have a great country.

>> No.17604057

>>17604041
not disagreeing

>> No.17604058

>>17604019
To be honest, a movie about a movie based 5-10 years in the future during a 2nd great recession would be based as fuck.

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>>17604019
It already went -72%.
2010 was harsh.

>> No.17604082

>>17604039
even he cant hide the worry on his face

>> No.17604083

Down 1,312 today screenthis this

>> No.17604116

>>17604035
Wewwwwww
is it actually FNGD time?

>>17604039
horrifyingly enough, that was yesterday's show.
>>17604030
I mean... there's bullshit quotes and fake screenies for everyone for the lulz. Trudeau never said when your enemy kills you you win, but it's so damn funny it will live on forever.

>> No.17604117

>market tries to pump
>investors say "fuck off"

>> No.17604129

>>17604035
i am going to buy some cheap goddamn stocks when this is over.

>>17604039
rally motherfuckers it's a rallier's rally so get ready to rally rally

>>17604019
bitcoin will save the world from complete distruction.

>>17603628
i want a bank to default and go to 0 so i can have a chance to make millions on options.

>> No.17604139

>>17604039
He was on squawk alley talking the same shit, someone finally just said, that indicator is worthless at time like this, and this type of event is what leads to a reset of the indicator. I really want to think Cramer really does mean well, but is just such a boomer blue chip guy he doesn't get today's market...I don't, but I want to.

>> No.17604146

>>17604069
that was merely a housing/credit bubble
after ZIRP, QE, and repos there's basically no asset classes NOT in bubble territory
this shit is going to be biblical because the fed already blew their load

>> No.17604158

>>17604146
No, it was dot.com + housing. Together -72% in m2 money.

>> No.17604163

>>17604139
he called this coronacrash though. saved people from buying the top and losing 10% in a week. No telling whether he's right or wrong right now. Either it's 2008 all over again or it's time to do some buying. ESPECIALLY if you're an investor and not a trader. Most people don't check their stocks every day. They go to work and make money and some of that buys some stocks every month.

>> No.17604169

CRASH YOU MOTHERFUCKING BOOMER BUBBLE. FUCKING CRASH. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS TO BUY A FUCKING HOUSE.

FUCKIJG CRASH FAGGOT BOOMERS. KILL FUCKING BOKMERS CORONA CHAN JUST FUCKING GENOCIDE RHEM ALL BOOMER GENOCIDE NOW NOW NOW!!

>> No.17604186

>>17604158
still apples to oranges
and there's no guarantee that we don't go the way of Japan where indexes still haven't reach bubble ATHs after 30 years

>> No.17604200

>>17604169
autistic screeching doesnt stop worldwide QE. Youve been priced out :)

>> No.17604202

>>17604169
Schizo's on full lately

>> No.17604203

DIE BOOMERS DIE DIE DIE FUCKING RIGHT NOW YOU SPEND MY INHERITANCE ON YOUR 25 YEAR OLD THAI WIFE'S FAMILY I HOPE YOU DIE CHOKING ON LUNG JUICE FUCKING DIE. BTW I FUCKED HER TOO BECAUSE SHE WAS DESPERATE FOR YOUNG DICK. NOR WORTH THE 90 THOUSAND FUCKING DOLLARS I WILL NEVER SEE CAUSE YOU DECIDED TO GET MARRIED AGAIN AT 65 BUT GOD DAMN THAT THAI PUSSY WSS TIGHT. FUCK YOU AND DIE OLD BOOMER TRASH. I'M GOING TO BREED YOUR THAI WIFE AND MAKE HER HAVE MY STEP BROTHER.

>> No.17604205

>>17604169
Its ok friend. Be patient. Our time has come. We waited this long already, just a few more minths. This time next year i can have a fully paid house in my area debt free. I'm savoring these moments of anticipation. The deaths of millions is their just rewards, and i will make the sane choices that the modern man decided to forego in his delusions.

>> No.17604230

Damn should've held onto my puts a day longer. I really had a feeling it'd be green tomorrow. want to grab some more puts but they're gonna be too expensive tomorrow

>> No.17604231

>>17604203
anon, I..

>> No.17604234

>>17604163
I don't know, I'm by no means an expert with his levels of qualification. But I don't get how people don't see how much downside still exists in the market. Banks are finally starting to realize, or at least admit it. Now keep in mind, the market consensus is we will have a strong back end recovery this year. As of this afternoon, AAPL has a new consensus driven target price of 295. It's at 292. With everything, it's still up 118% on the year, look for at bar minimum 40% of that to disappear before thinking it's bottomed. He screamed last night about AAPL being about to moon.

>> No.17604243

THAT'S FUCKING IT IN GOING TO GO LICK HANDRAILS IN THE SUBWAY TILL I GET CORONA THEN I AM COMING TO VISIT YOU DAD. IN GOING TO COOF ALL OVER YOUR STUFF AND YOUR GAY LITTLE SPORTSCAR. COOOF COOOF DIE. WOW SO SAD HE DIED OF CORONA WITH HIS PREGNANT YOUNG WIFE. BOOHOO. BUT WOW HIS SON IS SUCH A GOOD MAN TAKING CARE OF HER. SHE'S GOT FAT TITS BUT AN UGLY FACE. THAT'S FINE SO DO I, SO WE ARE A GOOD MATCH LMAO.

>> No.17604248

>>17604230
Patience. We'll see another bounce. We know that there isn't a floor on this market till after a long way down

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>>17604203
>>17604169
yeah you tell em

>> No.17604266

>>17604234
> He screamed last night about AAPL being about to moon.
I don't remember that segment.

He's been saying buy slowly, and buy quality. At least that's what I hear.

>> No.17604283

>US 10Y yield at 0.83
I just woke up, we're fucked aren't we?

>> No.17604293

>>17604248
you're right. I'm biding my time but I hate knowing I'm missing out on some fun

>> No.17604296

>>17604266
Sorry, it was 2 days ago

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/jim-cramer-the-sp-bounce-may-be-ephemeral-apple-poised-to-rally.html

>> No.17604315

>>17604283
More or less.

>> No.17604344

>>17604041
why can't this tard not even form coherent sentences?

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>>17604296
>https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/jim-cramer-the-sp-bounce-may-be-ephemeral-apple-poised-to-rally.html

yeah aapl looks like it has crashed. definitely a buy. . .

>> No.17604365

>>17604354
holy shit, buy the dip!!!

>> No.17604381

>>17604203
pls be real

>> No.17604393

>>17604354
why zoom out to retarded levels that make your chart worthless?

>>17604203
Sounds like your dad paid her to help you out a little, you should thank him.

>> No.17604394

>>17604283
bounced at .8

Im still expecting green unless we break under

>> No.17604406

>>17604354
Thanks fren, I will buy a 1000 shares at the market price at opening bell post haste.

>> No.17604410

>>17603411

one day this place of the internet will be studied, what will the future think about us i wonder

>> No.17604415

>>17604394
Green open???

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>>17604410
brap

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>>17604393
> The bottom is in goy

>> No.17604425

First UK death yesterday, FTSE will be interesting in 30 minutes

>> No.17604433

>>17604415
irrational markets bud

>> No.17604434

>>17604186
I think you dont read graphs correctly.

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OH NO NO NO NO NOOOOOO BOND BROS
HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY HAPPEN?????????????????????????????

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>>17604410
>one day this place of the internet will be studied
that day is today

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Yield of 0.815%

>> No.17604451

>>17604433
to elaborate. Futures open depends on how far off the lows the 10Y is at open. If we don't retest .8 and break below tomorrow, expect a green close.

Of course that isnt to say where we are right now in the bond market isn't nightmare tier. I'm just looking at short term plays.

>> No.17604458

>>17604393
because 5 year chart doesn't give a sharp enough increase for dramatic effect.

and there's nothing between 5 years and "max"

>> No.17604461

>>17604444
can I get a quick bogdown on the implications of this?

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we bear now

>> No.17604465

>>17604451
annnnnd were already retesting. About to get interesting if we break

>> No.17604466

>>17604451
Thanks for this.

>> No.17604472
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Just here for the pink wojacks.

>> No.17604476

>>17604451
>>17604465
so the market might go up or might go down.

what's so special about .8%??

what happens if the 10y goes to .3? who cares? what happens?

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>>17604476
>what happens if the 10y goes to .3?

>> No.17604482

>>17604476
If it goes to .3, you should liquidate everything you own and go all in on puts on the major indices.

>> No.17604485

>>17604461

I dont even know but

>yield .815
>Quads

This means that airline stocks today will crash like flight 815

https://youtu.be/MKcKtjrL5bc

For anons that didnt see the UK news yesterday, the airline that serves the majority of our domestic flights collapsed yesterday. So a lot of the smaller cities have lost pretty much all of their air connectivity with the rest of the UK

>> No.17604492

>>17604476
Yep, might go up might go down. Trade accordingly.

0.8 is purely psychological

>> No.17604493

>>17603617
>Flying cars
Stupid idea.

>> No.17604500

>>17604485
oh shit reallly?
i'm pretty well stocked with airline PUTS, but in the US the airlines were bailed out once or twice before, i think, so it's not a guarantee money maker.

US banks and airlines (and auto (and insurane) companies) are basically nationalized and backed by the government at this point.

>> No.17604507

>>17604461
a lot of people are piling into bonds now because they think that the fed will cut again and bond rates will go even lower
they might be right, or they might get bogged

>> No.17604512

>>17603647
>Oil
Depending on how long term you're planning that's either a good or terrible idea.
Longer term I'd recommend rare earth mining stocks with some silver ETFs. Shorter term, go ahead.

>> No.17604518

I feel DAX opening on 1.5%+

>> No.17604522

>>17603425
Based

>> No.17604524

>>17603628
Well, being literally invaded by Turkish hordes certainly isn't GOOD for an economy.

>> No.17604526

>>17604507
Imagine not having bought bonds four years ago.

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>>17604500

All these routes just got cancelled, people told not to go to the airport.

>> No.17604539

>>17603628
goddamn it, don't tempt me to buy puts

>> No.17604540

>first week trading stocks
>up over 100%
thanks INO

>> No.17604557

>>17604418
Seethe harder gentile

>> No.17604567

>>17604538
cool.

i'm running out of things to short, fellow anons.
i've made my money on disney, student debt servicers, and cruise lines.

what's the next thing to short? Apple? Douche Bank? Wells Fargo? Intel? Comcast?

Companies with high debt to equity ratio?

>> No.17604598

>>17604567
Debt could be a real concern... is CHK still in business? What’s their short interest like?

I’m also looking for things to short as a hedge against my longs.

>> No.17604607

This is the best /smg/ btw

>> No.17604614
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3 minutes until bloodbath in Europe

First UK death yesterday
41 deaths in Italy yesterday

Both announced after market close

>> No.17604615

>>17604598
i know we've been goofy about it, but i really believe aapl is in for a 30% drop before summer

>> No.17604626

>>17604615
I think it won't be that long. In the next 7 - 14 days they're going to close malls/stores in Seattle, California and NY. When stores close its going down hard.

>> No.17604641

>>17604614
did the world end?

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>>17604614

Not a single green

UK 10 year yield opens at record low

>> No.17604659

>>17604615
That sounds like wishful thinking to me, where are people going to want to put there money when bonds give them negative returns after inflation? Apple pays a better divvy than that and you and be pretty certain they’re not going out of business any time soon.

However DB just cut their price target
>Deutsche Bank analysts maintained a hold rating on the stock, but reduced their price target on the shares to $295 from $305.

Could this be the time for FNGD?

>> No.17604668

>>17604644
>even her dress is red
Kek

>> No.17604669

DB down 3% to 6.8

>> No.17604673
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DAX sliding

>> No.17604676

>>17604482
don't lower yields = higher stock futures?

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>UK airline collapses
>the competitors open 4% lower

How is this possible? They have a massive gap in the market to fill

>> No.17604686

>>17603628
You can't tell that from stock prices

>> No.17604688

>>17604679
there is no more market for flying in airplanes
travel is over
we stay home and cough in our boxes

>> No.17604689

>>17604644
Usually when it's like this, baskets of stocks, or ETFs are being sold off. This puts downward pressure on all stocks and it throws price action out the window. Some stocks that should be valued, are no longer valued due to some large ETF selloff. So everything either becomes red, or it becomes green. Normally what you should see is a mixture of red and green in a healthy market.

>> No.17604694

>>17604679
The airline collapsed because no one is flying

They’re all suffering

>> No.17604698

A market is "irrational" when for some reason, our ability to properly price things gets more unpredictable due to credit expansion.

>> No.17604701

>>17604518
I felt wrong.

>> No.17604714

WE GOIN DOWN NIGGAS

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>>17604714
but futures are going up though

>> No.17604762

By the looks of it, it seems that powers that be are looking to let banks lever up more, and destabilize under the assumption that the banks will ne negatively affected by current market circumstances and conditions. So that tells us the FED and banks have a negative outlook on current circumstances, and are looking to suture up losses by letting the banks leverage more. I'm going to see to it that I can further read up about this as this could mean more risk in the financial system overall. I think it's safe to say that banks want to leverage up almost indefinitely if they can, and do not care at this point the consequences of such actions. The fact that the US financial regulators are facilitating this type of behaviors, can and likely does, point to a rocky and likely troublesome future in the case of even slight economic disasters.

Bankers got away with it in 2008 and the government helped them do so. Now they want to be able to do it again.

This is America ladies and gentlemen. Attached is a link to the article that sprouted this concern.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/federal-reserve-retools-capital-rules-for-largest-us-banks-2020-03-05?mod=home-page

>> No.17604764

>>17604526
>four years ago
Stocks significantly outperformed bonds buddy old pal

>> No.17604766

>>17604720
Yeah, if you're talking about VIX

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>>17603617
>Fuck I miss the 90's. They promised us flying cars but all we got were 140 characters and trannies.
atleast porn loads quickly.. can't wait for that pornhub ipo.. would probably put atleast 69% of my portfolio into it

>> No.17604792

>olympics scheduled to start July 24
Oh jeez that’s still a little over 4 months away... that’s tough it could happen depending on what the heck happens with the virus when it starts heating up. Could get better could get worse.

>>17604720
>png called gif
Interesting...

>>17604762
Interesting perspective. Maybe I really should go even heavier into cash and gold.

>> No.17604796

>>17604762
buy btc my nigga
this is 2020 not 2008
we have options this time

>> No.17604811
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UKX/M2

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>>17604792
REMEMBER BOB COSTA??
there is a 0% chance they will go ahead with the olympics.
just imagine all the interviews with coaches who are coughing, people fainting in the stands, and athletes catching corona leading up to their big moment.
not gonna happen.

>> No.17604832

>>17604796
>btc
yes, because your .jpeg will be worth jack shit when shit hits the fan

>> No.17604841

>>17604818
maybe they will still do the olympics with empty stands and all the reporters in full hazmat

>> No.17604849

>>17603617
I'm only in it for the trannies.

>> No.17604857

Dax down 250

>> No.17604861
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>>17604832
and what will dollars or gold be worth?? none of it will be worth anything, but at least btc will be scarce which is more than you'll be able to say about USD after it's been printed to infinity

>> No.17604880

>>17604841
That’s not as insane as it sounds, though not the hazmat.

International community wants to show the world it should stay calm... still it’d be difficult to do with everyone in masks and such... and they’d have to dial down the ceremonies. They’ve already decided to exclude children from the torch ceremony?

>> No.17604894

>>17604861
>none of it will be worth anything,
Gold will always be worth something, even if the current currencies get trashed by inflation and they print a fresh currency based on whatever, it will be exchangeable for Gold

just don't sell during the hyperinflation like a retard

>> No.17604900

>>17604792
Generally cash should be less than 20% in holdings, considering standing cash is deflationary with regards to buying power. Gold and PMs may be a possibility, but one of the issues we see here is an already pretty indebted economy, with banks being given the go ahead to lever up, and risk more.

Meaning, if something bad were to happen, there would likely not be enough capital inflow for the banks (though I don't know the actualized numbers) and so consequently another bailout or financial system collapse scenario would be probable outcomes.

>>17604796
BTC can be regulated just as much as any other thing, and considered it's illiquidity and low utility, it's not a reasonable place to put capital when you have things suchs as derivatives markets, low interest loans, and so on.

>> No.17604904

DAX dying lads

>> No.17604910
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uuuuhhh, guys?

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191?query=featured_home

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Next stop, 0

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>>17604880
speaking of Japan for a second
the most fucked up thing about this whole virus is that I can't go and eat any sushi at all until at least a few months after this thing all blows over.
because sushi is raw and made by hand.
And damn I love some sushi.
It's not even because it's made by asian people; there is a decent sushi place near me that has some mexican lads working afternoon shift. I'm still not bold enough to eat it

>> No.17604927
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>>17604904
DAX is fine my nigga
but ATX is dying

>> No.17604929
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I have been waiting for this shit since 2008 my niggas, when the international supply chain disruptions start to *really* affect the end product manufacturing, we're gonna see some serious shit.
>Manufacturer A defaults and closes its factories due to prolonged corona disruption
>Manufacturer B in USA can't make end products, no cash flow and defaults on its short term debt
>Bank A that funds Manufacturer B goes down due to bad debt it can't get rid of
>Systemically important banks have exposure to Bank A and they start teetering

>> No.17604937

Finally SPY is taking a shit, feels good to have this release.

>> No.17604942

>>17604900
Gold has frequent 5-20 year bear markets in its history, its the 1000 year old scam

>> No.17604954

What if this virus killed enough Trump and Bloomberg supporters and let Sanders become president

>> No.17604959
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>>17604937
i am leveraged up to the hilt in shorts
i can't wait to wake up in the morning

>> No.17604966

https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/bcreg20200304a.htm

So upon further inspection, the requirements are lessened from 13 to 8 in terms of guidelines for capital requirements, but more complex banks (assuming they also have higher risk profiles) would seem to need more capital on hand, where as less complex banks with presumably less risk, would need less. I haven't found a very definitive publication on the matter so it could be an intrinsically reponsible move altogether.

>> No.17604971
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what is this pattern called?

>> No.17604974

>>17604920
Did you read the symptoms of corona? Id rather have Corona than the basic flu

>> No.17604979

>>17604954
One can only hope the virus will clean house.
Time for the boomers to hand the world over to the millennials

>> No.17604980

>>17604971
call that a dip
I'm reaching for my chips

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>>17604927
>-2% one hour after opening
>Is fine
Eh

>> No.17604993
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>>17604974
I wanna be dead too

>> No.17604998

>>17604942
Market pricing and actual value are not entirely correlating in nature.

When you look at utility and value of PMs in comparison to any fiat currency, people from older days would think you're an idiot for using paper currency as a store of value. It's devalued constantly, it's power sinks, you can easily lose it in a fire or a hacking situation, the risk goes on and on. Historically the longest fiat currency I know of is the Euro and look how that's going. The USD too. Do you honestly think the government wanted to move off of a gold standard for the good of the people?

>> No.17605006

>>17604444
Checked.
10 year government bonds?
Christ.

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so much for bond yields

>> No.17605013

>>17604974
I feel like I still don't understand all of the symptoms
it fucks with your lungs, obviously
I also hear that it fucks with your nuts and your brain or something?
I dunno about that, I need those

>> No.17605014

>>17604910
Interesting. There’s a lot of reason to doubt the drug’s success. I can’t remember if it’s one of the ones China said didn’t help.
However:
>The study results are expected to be made public on April 27.
There’s still plenty of time to speculate. I’m late to the party but I don’t think it’s over.

http://archive.ph /GeNKH

>> No.17605015

Guys, I have 500 eur on Degiro right now and I have no idea wtf to do, Im a noob when it comes to /smg/. Plz help, do I buy puts, just short? or wtf

>> No.17605022
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The market sucks right now

>> No.17605030

>>17604985
We knew it would be gapped down this much for 12 hours now, please people learn about market hours, gaps, futures ect. Theres been far too many posts freaking out about gap downs in foreign markets

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>>17604985
should be noted that DAX being down accelerates ATX going down, which is at 2.6% now, and if one of the Big Banks in ATX goes down far enough it will drag the Germans down with them.

>> No.17605036

what about gold? XAUUSD can smash the 1700 roof soon

>> No.17605043
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>futures

>> No.17605048

>DAX -2.5%
>ATX -2.8%
once again Austrians are leading Germans into Doom lmao

>> No.17605052

>>17604900
I’ve been holding cash for dips and I’m nearly 30% cash. I don’t follow your reasoning. Why would PM’s be bad if the financial system have a crisis or bailout type event?

And why would cash be losing purchasing power? In relation to equities, it looks like it’s poised to gain purchasing power. Are you just referring to the inflation that may finally show up after so much global monetary easing?

>> No.17605062

>>17604998
even bonds outperform precious metals over the past century. American Treasuries make Precious metals completely useless for wealth preservation. They are only good for trading

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>>17605043
kek

>> No.17605066

>>17604998
>Do you honestly think the government wanted to move off of a gold standard for the good of the people?
Of course not, I assume they did it to have more control over financial conditions and because other countries were also arming themselves with central banks and fiat systems. Gotta keep up with the competition.

But why would PM’s be a bad thing to have as a long term store of value, as long as you have the liquidity in cash for whatever actual transactions you need to make?

>> No.17605075
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17605075

SHOULD I DO IT?

SHOULD I DO IT?

SHOULD I DO IT?

>> No.17605076

>>17605052
Never was it implied that PMs are bad. I made a case supporting them, not the opposite.

Please seriously do not me if cash is losing purchasing power. Honestly dude.

>> No.17605086

>>17605062
Stay with your illiquid, easily traceable bonds then.

>> No.17605092

>>17605066
See
>>17605076

>>17605075
Probably not but I can't stop you.

>> No.17605102

beating me down....

>> No.17605106

>>17604929
>tfw only developed an interest in all this gay stawks shit right as things go off a cliff
Don't even have the skill or funding to profit off the bloodbath and (eventual) recovery. FUCK.
Imagine being dumb and poor enough to be unable to do anything, but just aware enough to know that you're missing out on the opportunity to set yourself up for life.

>> No.17605118
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REJOICE, THE BOTTOM IS HERE

>> No.17605126

>>17605076
The phrasing threw me.

>Gold and PMs may be a possibility, but one of the issues we see here is an already pretty indebted economy, with banks being given the go ahead to lever up, and risk more.
You said but, making it sound like that risk of leverage would be a drawback for gold.

I get the drawbacks of cash as far as a store of wealth for years, because the fiat system is engineered to have inflationary currencies and global monetary policy is VERY stimulative right now. But for the money I won’t be needing, it’s gaining purchasing power in equities in the very short term.

Though the fact that we haven’t been seeing notable inflation as they push the accelerator does worry me that we could hit a tipping point where inflation snaps up bigly.

This is why I’m leaning towards gold.

>> No.17605139

>>17605092
So you are kind of liking gold, but really not liking cash or bonds. What’s your suggestion then?

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>>17605086
>illiquid
Do you think Im the literal country of russia? If I want to secure tens of millions of dollars I go with short term bonds easy

>> No.17605144

>>17604910
Wait that’s ONE GUY and the very first corona case in the US?
He could’ve just gotten better on his own. The medication could be completely irrelevant.

>> No.17605150

>>17605118
On a more serious note, seriously, CNN's fear and greed index is at a 9 (out of a 100).

Remember Buffett-sama: Be greedy when others are fearful.

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HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO SLEEP

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ_auNTSg5s

>> No.17605162

>>17605155
With your eyes closed, silly billy.

>> No.17605167

>>17605150
By that logic you should be fearful now

>> No.17605170

>>17605155
you gotta drink some milk and then coom inside a plump girl

that's the sleepcombo

>> No.17605171

New to this
How much leverage should I use? And where do I set my stop loss?

>> No.17605172
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Mood right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1xqSZy9_4I

>> No.17605178

>>17605150
Buffet also just bought Delta Airlines the other day. Not a bad idea to be honest

>> No.17605186

>>17605126
Consumer debt is up, wages are stagnant. Inflation still happening but the money flows up.

>> No.17605189

>>17605171
Go all in on Tesla RIGHT NOW

>> No.17605192

Sava in buy range!
I repeat: sava in buy range!

>> No.17605200

>>17605189
why?

>> No.17605204

So the 10 year yield is going down faster than a collapsing star.
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING FEDS? FUCKING SAVE ME
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.17605205

>>17605139
Cash and government bonds right now I don't see why you'd be in them. CDs and anything under 3%APY, yeah no. Cash maybe a little, but that don't or barely outpace inflation?

Suggestions I don't generally give out because A. I don't want more competition and B. I'm up over 30% this year alone. Only did one options play and considered my education I will not do it for free.

>> No.17605216

>>17605204
ALLL THE WAY DOWN!!!

>> No.17605218

>>17605204
Yes anon, there was a rate cut, thats what happens

>> No.17605226

>>17605204
doesn't a zero yield environment mean that the federal government debt interest payments go to zero?
this means we can elect Bernie and he can give everyone a trillion dollars
think about it

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>>17605205
the more you give the more you shall receive, there is plenty of moneys out the for all of us anon

>> No.17605231

>>17605204
aren't we only in trouble when it starts reversing?

>> No.17605256

>>17605227
Well if you're a brother then there's the exception. Right now I'm only looking at corporate bonds, I may look at Muni bonds as they are tax free, but I'm also looking at increased or decreased demands that value can be extracted from.

Even now I'm looking at options plays but it's too early in the morning to make that distinction. My concerns over options are if the Fed pumps again, puts may be extremely lossful, but with volatility and sell offs before then there can still be some value extracted for example. As an example yesterday one options play brought a 188.89% return, but I sold a little too early because the Fed could announce a pump any day now. Buying options pre ER may prove slightly fruitful but it's hard to tell with the market acting how it is currently.

>> No.17605258

>>17605063
What I'm wondering is it this will continue on Monday as well. if a bunch of normies over the weekend will get scared and sell their stocks or switch into safer stocks or bonds. Thoughts? Basically who is going to sell, why are they going to sell, and what are they going to sell, and what will they do with their money?

>> No.17605261

>>17605075
I mean sure..but I'd sell next week.

>> No.17605263

>>17605205
Huh. Well good for you thanks for the input. I guess that education is paying off. I hope that keeps working.

I’m just trying to staunch the bleeding and scoop up some good long term holdings. But you’re sounding the financial crisis bell, which takes even equities more or less off the menu.

>> No.17605281

>>17605178
Really? I would have waited until peak fear in the US, which I think will be sometime during the next week or two, as the Corona virus cases start exploding. I really wish predictit.com had a date of "peak fear" wager.

>> No.17605291

>>17605256
Just heard Goldman talking about credit market opportunities. Seems too hard for small timers, you’re not going to find much competition for that here.

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>> No.17605297

>>17605256
I will name my 1st child after you, what shall I call him?

>> No.17605299

>could have made thousands if I held my puts
>now $2k down all time
should just take the bullet at this point

>> No.17605306

>>17605263
Long term one recommendation would be NSRGY after share price stabilization. They have lots of water sources, though the US CEO just hopped off the throne, but NSRGY is a Swiss stock and water is always in demand. IIRC the financials and the 10K seemed pretty supportive of long term growth as well. That and VZ. Best margins out of the big 4, great balance sheets, considerable amount of LTA and I think they just signed a deal with WMT for some kind of implementations or something. Nice dividend too.

>> No.17605314

>>17605297
Jerry

>> No.17605321

>>17605281
Yes really and apparently it takes a genius like Buffet to buy during this totally reasonable zombie apocalypse fear

>> No.17605326
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My niggas I am having the highest dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin concentrations in my fucking brain since Lehman went down

>> No.17605327

Feds need to just do another cut like right now or monday because this market is fucking dead if the feds dont make a move now.
They need to delay this crash for about two to three months so china can get back to work and jump start the market.

>> No.17605334

>>17605281
>. I really wish predictit.com had a date of "peak fear" wager.
That would be a hardcore overpowered metric.
I like it.

>> No.17605336

>>17605327
Cut every day for 3 months boys

>> No.17605351

>>17603751
I’m 12x short the qqq 40 million ride or die nigger

>> No.17605354

>>17605297
Benjamin is a good name.

>> No.17605357

>>17605306
Hey thanks. Forgot about them I was looking at them and mondalez a while back and never pulled the trigger. Don’t know enough about VZ but wireless isn’t going away anytime soon.

Balance sheets should be top priority right now is what I’ve been thinking, which is why I was looking at JNJ and msft.

>> No.17605360

You'll should invest in options for WORK earnings next week corona virus panic is seeing this as the next ZOOM

>> No.17605372

>>17604507
They are going to start by equities

>> No.17605396

>>17605357
Perhaps. Depends on their exposure to China and how soon they can resume normal operating costs. Might be a good buy in soon though for sure. I can't recommend personally as I haven't examined the 10Ks yet.

>> No.17605401

GDAXI going down HARD

>> No.17605424

>>17605357
Good dividend. They have a lot of debt

>> No.17605429

>>17604689
this

>> No.17605442

>>17605396
Okay 2 more quickies if you don’t mind
Are you Swiss?
How concerned are you about a financial crisis? Have you mostly pulled out of equities?

>>17605424
Who, VZ?

>> No.17605448

>2008 lehman brothers
>2020 deutsche bank
w-what would this entail?

>> No.17605466
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>>17605448
what even keeps this thing alive at this point?
It's already Rubbish Tier
Where can it even go from here? 50cents a pop?

>> No.17605468

>>17605448
The breakdown of international supply chains leading to disruption of supply even in very basic consumer goods that aren't produced completely domestically

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>>17605293
Thar she blows

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>TFW down $15 on Apple

>> No.17605501

>10 YEAR YIELD
>10 YEAR YIELD
>10 YEAR YIELD
>10 YEAR YIELD
>10 YEAR YIELD

>> No.17605508

If everything crashes I do good, if everything crashes except GME I do amazing.

>> No.17605509

GOOD MORNING BULLS HOW IS IT GOING TODAY

>> No.17605512

>>17605442
Not Swiss. I live in the America's at the moment.
And altogether, I'm not very concerned about the financial crisis we have. Realistically I do have some options layed out and can change those if I need to make other or added sources of income. Worst case scenario I can go mobile. I expect over the next 3-4 years the market will feel even more of the tension that we have been seeing this last decade or so, but I'm young so my experience is limited.

I don't have a positive outlook on the US economy at this point especially for income earners under 115k in medium to low COL areas. It could be a plausibility to move to a different country in the next 20 years considered the directions it seems to be going on all fronts.

In terms of my current holdings I'm somewhat in PMs, mostly cash or have accounts receivable due to privatized REIT company's waiting to liquidate at the end of this quarter, and I have low holdings in a TD account but will likely look into some short term corp/muni bonds (1-2 year if I can find them) as well as previously stated options.

Here's a link to VZ's financials if you're interested.
https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/VZ/verizon/cash-flow-statement

>> No.17605514

dem futures boys
my fucking dopamine levels are going through the roof

>> No.17605515

>>17605494
are you one of the D00ds who bought into Apple the day before yesterday?
lmao

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>>17605501
AHHHHHH WE ACTUALLY DIPPED BELOW 0.7

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>>17605509

Day hasn't even started yet, senpai.

>> No.17605525

>>17605494
You should wait until their next earnings comes out. Might get ugly after it does.

>> No.17605533

>89 dead in Italy including two men in their 30s
At least it's not killing white people yet

>> No.17605552
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We're gonna have some fun today boys

>> No.17605556

If the fed doesnt stop this today we are donezo

>> No.17605559
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>>17605515

Probably. I bought and sold it a few times this week for a small quick gains. I'll just weather the storm for even bigger gains.

>> No.17605563
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17605563

It's not even 5am EST and my testosterone is already through the roof. AhhhhhHhhHHHHHHHH

>> No.17605569

>>17604507
What do you think the fed will do? Treasury bond yield so low, liquidity trap. I think they might buy corporate bonds.. kills two birds with one stone, no?

>> No.17605572

jesus fuck -22% on 10y

>> No.17605574

>>17605556

So if you own shares in huge companies that aren't going nowhere and the stock dips, why would you panic sell when they're going to recover?

Sounds like a retarded knee jerk reaction.

>> No.17605576
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17605576

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>> No.17605590

>>17605512
Ah so if we’re in for a flood, you’ve already built a boat. Very good!
But I was more asking how likely you think such a calamity is. Are we realistically likely to see another 2008?

Maybe I really should take some losses and go very liquid.

>> No.17605591

>>17605576
What FTSE nigga

>> No.17605595
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17605595

>that red dildo on /ES

>> No.17605599

>>17605299
Right there with ya buddy! ...I sold tvix at a LOSS last week at $55 or so. Maybe it was $45. Lost $3k. Need to identify when peak fear/uncertainty is. I think it'll be when most schools/business are shut down.

>> No.17605600
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17605600

fucking Textbook Deadcats in the ATX
don't miss this shit

>> No.17605605

INB4 DAX 11500
INB4 DAX 11500
INB4 DAX 11500
INB4 DAX 11500

>> No.17605610

>>17605327
See one of my last posts. Thoughts?

>> No.17605614
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17605614

my gold is pumping

>> No.17605616

Mutts gonna wake up to a nice surprise

>> No.17605618

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.17605621

Dax down 3%

>> No.17605625

>tension between japan and south korea increasing due to outbreak
>more schools closed in germany and other western countries
only a matter of time till the these headlines head to the US

>> No.17605626

Holy fuck
I didn’t listen

>> No.17605628
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17605628

I can always say
'It's gonna be better tomorrow'
Falling away from me
Falling away from me

Beating me down
Beating me beating me
Down, down
Into the ground
Screaming so sound
Beating me, beating me
Down, down
Into the ground

>> No.17605631
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17605631

TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN

>> No.17605632

>>17605625
They have already closed schools for two weeks here in Washington state

>> No.17605634

Futures for Nasdaq, Dow, SP500 down 2%

>> No.17605639

I sold VIX calls at a loss AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I COULD HAVE MADE 200%

>> No.17605653

>>17605639
LMAOOOOOO

>> No.17605655
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17605655

-1
NOTHING WRONG WITH
ME
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NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
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NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
-4
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
-5
SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE

>> No.17605656

>DAX already down 3.3% after 2hours

Good times, reminds me of last thursday


Will it continue when us opens or will the feds pump this miserable piece of shit?

>> No.17605661

>>17605590
Well we have x amount of companies that leveraged on debt, the US has 21.2% of it's imports from China and 7.4% of exports from there as well. I'm guessing that's only direct imports, x amount of the world uses China for materials etc. That loops back around through other ways. Other economies definitely aren't looking too good and now companies that have no materials have to seek out pricier suppliers due to increased demand for supplies and lower supply of suppliers. The monthly consequences of this is exponential, the real question is to what degree. To answer that you need all quantitative of all businesses and that's obviously too much.

The way I see it the US gov will do whatever is necessary at the end of the day to keep it's economy from grinding to a halt because the US gov is a fat pig. It loves it's taxes which translate into growth and so on. It's a race for power and the US outright does NOT want to fall behind in that race. Even if it means misallocation of taxpayer funds that we saw in 2008.

So really the heat is on and we may well see some not so common moves by the FED or the gov. They already changed up banking leverage requirements so I think they're hedging but they still seem to trade the short term for long term. You can still make money in this market. Just be prepared to make a 1-2 year turnaround minimally and maybe 3-8 maximally if you're holding. It's so volatile right now just running quant is super stressful alone so. Yeah.

>> No.17605663
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17605663

>Daytrade gold
>It goes even higher after you sell
The worst feeling
My inner jew cries

>> No.17605664

>>17605656
Expect the biggest pump of all time and everything to still be in deep red

>> No.17605665
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>> No.17605672

>>17605663
Fuck off, antisemite scum

>> No.17605673

>>17605625
yep. our markets are headed lower.

>> No.17605682

>>17603611

Based trip tranny

>> No.17605684
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>>17605665

Pretty based.

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17605694

>>17605672
R-rude

>> No.17605695
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>>17605591
FTSE this dick in yo mouth hahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa

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the bear has left the cave, I repeat, the bear has left the cave

>> No.17605702

>>17605697
THE BEAR WILL LEAVE ITS CAVE FOREVER

>> No.17605703
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17605703

>DAX sub 11600

>> No.17605710

>>17605653
I can't do this. I sold MSFT calls just before they went up to 15.00
I sold UVXY $21 calls just before it went up to $25/share
I sold UVXY $26 calls yesterday and now it's in the thirties

I'm not even mad anymore. I held through the fed pump and everything but I still get fucked. I can't fucking win. When it should have been blood red last week they pumped the fuck out of it and now they do nothing? I'm such a fucking nigger
FUCK THE BOGDANOFFS

>> No.17605712

>>17605703
hit 11510 just a few minutes ago
but had a small pump

>> No.17605716

>>17605703
it's over, i'm panic selling

>> No.17605720

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=9654d4dwVmw&feature=emb_title
long nature

>> No.17605721

>>17605716
Based

>> No.17605722

>>17605661
WOW that is grim.
Wowowowow. I can’t believe I’ve been buying dips quite honestly. But this is all pretty bad for cash as well.

>> No.17605728

My hands are so fucking weak in a down cycle, my god. I would have made about 30K from my BA puts alone, not to mention an AAPL 290 put expiring next Friday, all sold at losses because I've only known the bull. Learned my lesson, my final short is a 3/16 280 spy put I got yesterday, I'm not fucking selling.

>> No.17605729

>>17605150
I bought calls for today. Is that greedy enough?

>> No.17605738

>>17605590
Very likely, but it's a When question that's extremely difficult to answe, as the other anon correctly pointed out (in more words) since a lot of really perilous approaches could forestall things for longer than some expect.

>> No.17605741

>>17605710
May I ask what in the name of god has led you to sell UVXY calls?

>> No.17605742

>SPY sub 295 pre-market

>> No.17605743

>>17605728
Kek that's what I said. You'll sell. That's why we're here.

>> No.17605745
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17605745

Buy when there is blood in the streets.

Excelsior!

>> No.17605747

>>17605728
Damn dude you suck
>>17605729
You’re an idiot

>> No.17605757

i dont understand

why does lower 10y note not make people bum rush stocks to chase that profit

>> No.17605759

>>17605743
>>17605728
LEearn to enjoy the fucking rush of feelgood chemicals and adrenaline as you see everything crash around you, I'vebeen giggling like a retarded autist since EU opened

>> No.17605760

>>17605745
you got it wrong, buy it when the blood is still on the streets but stops flowin (otherwise you will catch a failing knife yourself kek)

>> No.17605762

>>17605728
remember, bobo favors the bold

>> No.17605764

>>17604644
Kino

>> No.17605765
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17605765

>wake up
>see this
the U.S is gonna default, isn't it?

>> No.17605768

>>17605741
Powell pressing the pump button at random times. I thought I could beat him and rebuy in lower, I should have known they know everything.

The plan is to pump and then let it ride for a few days. Since he just pumped, we need to let it go down a bit. I knew it was either that or he'd pump again on Friday. I guess we'll see.

>> No.17605774

>>17605728
Same. But do not worry.
Right now we are playing against the house and weak hands are advised. We dont know whats going on behind the scenes and Trump might as well threaten to arrest David Solomon if they sell any more. Or Powell starting a scheme to "not buy" stocks.

>> No.17605776

>>17605722
Take it with a grain of salt so to speak, because the markets aren't exactly known for rationality either. Our current system has only gone on this long because of human stupidity and irrationality so. Something to take into account.

On another note, here's the deal. Puts and sells are obviously driving the SPY down so you can A pay a premium on puts on open, possibly up to 35% or B, wait for one of the first pumps to execute. Limit order that bugger and watch the chart. Seeing how some places are shutting down from the virus alone and the fear around it. Consider the timeline and the premium attached. Good luck and have fun.

>> No.17605781

>>17605747
I don't think I do, I made fantastic picks, I just have weak ass hands during down markets, which I've now learned since we finally have a down market. I had pretty weak hands on the upside when I started too, so I'll learn.

>> No.17605783

>>17605757
because they know the economy is fucked for the next few months and flee to safety

>> No.17605795

>>17605765
>Imagine tying up $10k to make $5 after 2 years


It used to be popular to buy a bond for a baby/kid as a gift.

>> No.17605796

>>17605783
gotcha thanks

>> No.17605798

>>17605768
>pumps it on friday
>gaps down monday
after all the previous days this is bound to happen, I'm fucking trusting my gut here and go full puts with some extra cash to ride eventual pumps.

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17605800

>>17605765
Jesus christ, how low are yields gonna go

>> No.17605802

FTSE 100 just pierced 6500pts

>> No.17605809

>>17605776
Thanks a lot. Really Appreciate the perspective and input.

>> No.17605812

>Buy VIX puts
>wait for dead cat bounce
>sell and buy VIX calls
Brilliant right bros?

>> No.17605815

I want to thank the anon from yesterday that told me about Vont bear x8 for us stock op euro traders
Already made a nice profit

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>> No.17605825

>>17605795
Bonds used to have 11% annual returns back in the boomer days.
Boomers literally had the easiest fucking life.

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Update on the el ogro de las americas futures

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>>17605802
DAX just hit 11506

sub 11500 here we come

>> No.17605837
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17605837

i dont have much but i share what i can

>> No.17605848

somehow crypto feels pretty safe at the moment

>> No.17605850

>>17605833
Dios Mio

>> No.17605851

>>17605815
Do you mean a certificates? Heard vontobel isnt the most secure, better buy morgan stanley next time there are 15x bear ones from them

>> No.17605858

>>17605833
DIOS MIO!
EL DIAVOLO DEL OSO!

>> No.17605862

how long do you think I can keep up blindly shorting everything?

>> No.17605866

>>17605833
They should rename it, there is no future for this

>> No.17605872

>tfw bagholding sqqq still 2% red

>> No.17605874

S&P down 2.58% in futures...
Vatican reports first case of corona...
Coincidence? Yes.

>> No.17605876

>>17605741
serious question anon, do you think I should still keep my UVXY calls? Looking at VIX, we are almost at 2008 levels, I really can't imagine it can get any worse then that as the Corona thing seems to be "just a flu bro" so far. Are the markets just overreacting or is this a trigger to more serious stuff (companies going out of business because of cashflow, supplier chains etc)? T-thanks

>> No.17605880

>>17605862
As long as the virus keeps rampaging you can keep shorting

>> No.17605882

>>17605874
We are red across the board, if DAX gets a weekend Dump this will be another Black Friday in the US

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>>17605848
in a world with central banks cutting rates and handing out funny money, bitcoin is the victor.

>> No.17605885

>>17605851
Yes and thanks but I dont think those are available on Degiro

>> No.17605893
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17605893

>>17605876
I'd sell
But right now Im all cash since I have no idea. And Im barely smart enough to know that I have no idea.

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>>17605882
DAX now below 11500 ;)

>> No.17605899

>>17605833
It's not that bad, at least one of them is green.

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>>17605809
<3 haha no homo though.

@biz
Arrow sizes and colors are assumed market movements and to what degree

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17605901

>>17605836
BASED PREDICTOR-ANON

>> No.17605907

>>17605893
thanks lad

>> No.17605921

This is some fast-moving shit here guys, this is the fucking shit here, niggas, I live for this

>> No.17605924

Maybe I should reconsider career choices.

Are repossessions as cool as Repo Man makes it look? Seems like that could be a booming industry real soon.

>> No.17605933

>all of Europe is now down >-3% except Italy
At this point we have a choice between a weekend dump and a weekend Rout

>> No.17605934

>DAX hit -4%
>US market not even open yet
what the fuck

>> No.17605936

futures down 640.

>> No.17605942
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17605942

It was a mistake to buy calls. I just want to sleep.

>> No.17605955

Dear Amerifriends, I'm posting from the future (The Netherlands). Today is going to be red as fuck worldwide.

>> No.17605963

>tv anchors last hope is buffet buying something
lmao

>> No.17605964
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The crash might come sooner than expected

>> No.17605980

Why the fuck are things accelerating far past estimated amounts? The nothingburger virus is literally a scam by the Democrats. Fear is overtaking rationality and it's going to ruin this great country.
Trump and his administration needs to save us and they are our only hope.

>> No.17605990

>>17605980
>Democrats
>Europe

>> No.17605994

>>17605980
Fuck off Boomer

>> No.17605999

>6am and it's already dumping


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JITC1fo2HA

>> No.17606000

>>17605955
> Dear Nethertard

> Please stop contacting us, we're not interested, and have an actual economy to worry about.

> Signed
> The World, AKA The U.S.

>> No.17606002

What are the odds of Trump arbitrarily firing people if the Market goes deep red today?

>> No.17606005

>>17605980
>fires CDC staff
>appoints a prayer as the chief for this pandemic
>points fingers to democrats for stock markets falling
trump is literally making the situation worse right now

>> No.17606008

>>17605990
You say that but our yields in the US are going into the shitter and tomorrow is a full blown red day. Democrats are killing the global market.

>>17605994
Trump made our economy strong but all this propaganda and lies from the Democrats are destroying the foundation of this market.

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>>17606005
He has everything under control

>> No.17606017

>>17606002
Powell sacked by next week?
but honestly he's probably getting screeched at every hour on the hour

>> No.17606024

>>17606008
>democrats made up a qarantine in china and italy
Weak bait

>> No.17606027

Futures down 700.

>> No.17606034

>>17606017
What would happen with another rate cut?

>> No.17606039

>>17605924
Expect some fights bud.

>>17605980
People being stupid. Unless someone knows something we don't.

>>17606005
Red day again haha. I hope.

>> No.17606042

DAX just broke -4% again this is not a drill

Where is the bottom?

>> No.17606045

0.2% of Vatican city has coronavirus

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235859262850523136

>> No.17606047

>>17606034
panic sell

>> No.17606048

>>17606042
0

>> No.17606052

>>17606024
Go look at the media there are maybe few cases across the US and the rest is just old people dying to the flu cause they are obese. The Democrats are overblowing this whole stupid weaker flu to scare the market and destroy the economy cause they failed at impeachment.

>> No.17606057

>>17606039
more infected than you know

>> No.17606058

>>17606045
more like 100% since they all love buttsex so much

>> No.17606059

>>17606034
More selling since rate cutting doesn't work anymore, the FED cant do anything to stop this and people know it.

>> No.17606061

>>17606052
Believe whatever you want boomer

>> No.17606063

>>17606045
Kekkies what a great way to phrase it

Yeah so can someone help me find an EWI put that’s got good liquidity, low IV, and isn’t going to get annihilated by theta?

>> No.17606078

>>17605837
S&P will test 1500 soon

>> No.17606081

>>17606059
Then we're going for a deep dive today?

>> No.17606097

>>17606052
point taken that the media is hyping things up, but the US doesn't even test people at large like other countries dude. you must be delusional to think that this is a nothingburger.

>> No.17606110

>>17603600
Good luck with people stocking up on supplies

>> No.17606116

TODAY WILL BE GREEN
PREPARE YOUR ANUS BEARS

>> No.17606137

>>17606116
Yes, the pump has begun across yurop

>> No.17606149
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17606149

Buying the dips for massive long term gains.

>> No.17606150

>people in the streets are not dropping dead
Wow. Thanks newsman.

>> No.17606174

>>17604676
Not if memanal-ysts think there will be recession (=lower revenues for everyone) in the near future>>17604679

>> No.17606195

>>17606000
based and checked

>> No.17606199

>>17606116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMPKkJQm1U8

>> No.17606227

>>17606137
it was the same on monday and we got biggest gain
fuck europe
america strong

>> No.17606283

Turns out the Maya calendar ended in 2020 not in 2012 heheh

>> No.17606326

>>17606150
>2021
>Some people still alive
>DOW rallies to 400 points
>SSE 50 still at 2500

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17606332

I THINK THE BOND MARKET SUCKS
*sips*

>> No.17606339

Honestly I hope that this chink flu culls humanity and only 500 million are left like the Georgia guide stones

>> No.17606346

uk is going to the stoneages. gonna be a hard brexit and now this

>> No.17606356

>>17606052
You must be larping

>> No.17606370

Okay boys. Plays for the next week?

>> No.17606382

>>17606339
I bet youre listening to linkin park rite now
remember cut vertically

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>>17606382
SHUT UP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU

>> No.17606403

>>17606382
CRAAWWWWLINNG IN MY SKIIIN
THEESEE MARKETS, THEY WILL NOT HEAAL

>> No.17606415

Dump or pump on U.S. open?

>> No.17606421

>>17606415
Dump to pump then who knows what. I wanna make some options spreads but I don't have 200k to throw on SPY calls if need be. Puts seem risky too.

>> No.17606429
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17606429

good bobos, hehe, yeah, market will go down today, hehe

>> No.17606431

>>17606415
dump

>> No.17606448

>have wanted to start investing for a while but not autistic enough for extreme calls / crypto shit
>corona hits
>I think stock markets will drop soon and make a trading account on my bank
>transfer €8.000 to try it out last week
>stocks rise slightly, but I think it's temporary
>it is
>I decide yesterday this is the moment to get in
>Put €5.000 in Vanguard and Northern Trust ETFs with a worldwide spread (yes the S&P 500 ones will probably yield a bit more, but also riskier)
>Take the rest and start placing limit orders on local stocks that pay 4-6% dividends (I'm in The Netherlands) at around 5% lower than the daily opening will be for today
>markets fluctuate like fuck between 9-11AM, some of my orders take, some don't.
>I now own €5.000 in ETFs and €2.000 in single stocks (feelsweirdman)
>I want to commit to these holdings for at least 15 years and keep reinvesting the dividends + €500 each month for them compound gainz
>I still have €6.000 that I can miss to inject for when the markets dip even lower

How did I do so far?

>> No.17606453

>>17606429
nono it won't over the weekend jesus will rise from the dead and cure the unstoppable coronavirus and everything will be fine as if nothing happened

>> No.17606469

>>17606448
>hmm yes the week Europe and the USA realize they have a major uncontained outbreak is the week I will start buying
>How did I do :)
Should have waited for sentiment to recover. This ride is only beginning.

>> No.17606479

IM GOING TO BUY BERKSHIRE TODAY AND NOBODY CAN STOP ME!!!

>> No.17606492

>>17606469
That's why I still have €6.000 left on top of my emergency fund. I figured that if I put in around 1.000 of that every month for 6 months and keep the investments for a long time (forever basically), I'll always come out on top in the (very) long run, as opposed to spending all money now, or gambling on a low market in 6 months time.

>> No.17606502

>>17606479
Thanks for the update Buffet.

>> No.17606565

>>17606448
It will probably go down a lot more. Corona hasn't even started yet in the West.

>> No.17606608
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17606608

Are we currently experiencing the Golden Bull Trap?

>> No.17606623

Move over
>>17603400
>>17603400

>> No.17606626

>>17606565
Does that matter if I mostly buy 'safe' stocks (low chance of going bankrupt, historical records of always paying dividends) for the long haul?

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