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>> No.17563696

RIP in Bernie you faggot commie scum

>> No.17563697
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Where can I get training at an accredited school for day trading?

>> No.17563699

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>> No.17563707
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fuel up

>> No.17563712

Its pathetic that even with a pandemic and crashed economy Trump still has a decent chance at reelection because his 2 potential opponents are absolute clowns (not to mention sanders has a very high chance of literally dying to the pandemic)

>> No.17563724

Nothing wrong with being a lovey dovey guy and you should stop shaming Biden.

But this is not the time for that. No more handshakes Mr. Pence.

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>> No.17563727

install the robinhood app

>> No.17563731

consensus on BMO Investorline?

>> No.17563732

first for based

>> No.17563735

best puts for tomorrow?

>> No.17563737
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It's over

>> No.17563744

im a leafbro, use wealthsimple. easy to use, easy to deposit. etcetc.

>> No.17563745
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>finally take a bear position
>market recovers tomorrow

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>> No.17563748
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The democrats really screwed up during early candidate selection. They leaned too far left, offered up a bunch of junk like Harris and Warren, those candidates got rejected, they were left with Bern and Biden and the booty judge for a bit. Not well played.

>> No.17563750

Whats the best bull levered etf besides sox and tq

I wanna research more of them

>> No.17563767
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Are UVXY TVIX SQQQ the bjg brain moves right now? How long should i hold uvxy?

>> No.17563768

i swear, warren is only running to torpedo sanders' campaign

>> No.17563771
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Amateur trader reporting.
Bought these on Monday morning:
10 AMD
10 Disney
5 Microsoft
2 Nintendo
1 Tesla

>> No.17563773

nevermind the burn outs got vermont.

>> No.17563774

No thanks tripfag bitch, I am on thinkorswim.

>> No.17563787
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What do you get when you cross a mentally ill trader with a market that abandons him and treats him like trash?

>> No.17563794
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Bro ur going to lose all your money

Will I make money with my put?

>> No.17563795

can I start with like 400 bucks
Is it gonna take me like 4 years to get to 800 bucks with perfect luck

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>> No.17563812
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How long were you trading before you lost your soul, /smg/?

>> No.17563814

Is cheddar news a reliable resource? I am too poor for tv so I use Pluto

>> No.17563815
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I'm confused. Why is there ever a DNC primary? Don't they just choose whoever sucks city center and slum dick the most? Just look at their news organ CNN. Notice it's literally always in Biden's favor with wordage. DNC primaries are fakest dog and pony show imaginable.

>> No.17563817

Probably not.

>> No.17563832

SNIFFFY BIDEN. Joe Biden has probably sniffed more children, than a dog in a preschool. Probably.

>> No.17563839

because they want to have an illusion of free choice, but we all know what they want. More gibs, and they want it now.

>> No.17563842

He didn't cause the pandemic. His chances depend on how things play out.

>> No.17563855

NIKKEI red, also hope bernie wins so we take a huge dump.

>> No.17563862

YouTube search "Anthony Kriel."

>> No.17563863

I agree, but retards are already trying to blame him for it when its chinks being retards. Though maybe he can spin his trade war into "these guys are incompetent, I softened the blow"

>> No.17563864

we may as well accept it. the virus will be everywhere, in every state before we know it and before any cure can be found. cause medical facilities are ill equipped for things like this. Hell some places the nearest hospital or doctor's office is 20 or more miles away. So what do? Wash your hands and hope to hell you don't get it. If shit gets real bad, hey just you know cast your morals by the wayside and have fun cause your gonna fucking die anyway. Wonder how many people will scam the shit outta this for money? you know, claim they got it but don't. Like those people who scam disability from the Gov't but are out doing work for money under the table.

>> No.17563865

Maybe I'll sell tommrow, while I can. My Problem is I get antsy with my money and throw it into something silly when I can't find something to invest in

>> No.17563866

>(not to mention sanders has a very high chance of literally dying to the pandemic)
You know I didn't even think of that... I mean the chances are high he gets it. What are they going to screen everybody going to his campaign events for fever?

>> No.17563871

Retard question. Do I need to set up a seperate chequing account at my bank to trade stocks?

>> No.17563879
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Futures are green, that means everything will be daijoubu, r-right?

>> No.17563883

That’s is literally a gambling problem that you are describing. There will always be another opportunity to enter the market.

>> No.17563888

It's just as risky as betting on bull right now. I suggest you look at UVXY chart history and see how long it stays up everytime it spikes up. You will see needles in the chart. I suggest never buying volatility stocks on a day where they are green. The market has a very strong tendency to rebound to normal

>> No.17563894

You need to find a broker and set up an account with them, then you give the broker money and the broker will buy the stocks for you. You just tell the broker what you want to buy and what price you want to pay, and the broker will try to fill the order for you.

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>> No.17563899

Kill yourself weeb niggerfaggot

>> No.17563903

Weren't futures up +3% before it went -3% today?

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>> No.17563911

>Corona solved by summer
>Markets rally
>Tax cuts gets signed
>Markets rally
>Phase 2 trade deal being announced and shilled
>Markets rally
>New all time highs

Watch it happen

>> No.17563914

Well I did stop buying scratch tickets so I could invest more... Although really I don't think it's a gambling problem more like I feel like of my money isn't invested in missing out on an opportunity to make money somewhere. Just have to get used to that I guess.

>> No.17563916

They would if they're smart. He had a heart attack in October so if he gets the wu flu it will at a minimum cripple him.

>> No.17563919
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*tink tink tink*
Quiet down everyone, I have an announcement to make.
*checks robinhood*
*clears throat*
Right, without further adieu,


>> No.17563927

Shouldn't the market like that Bernie essentially lost the nomination today?

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>> No.17563934

>Corona solved by summer
lmao, not happening

>> No.17563935

Sanders was leading a few polls before Biden got the moderate candidates to endorse him, ouch

>> No.17563953

This is going to be a big night for Joe. He's going to come out tonight with the delegate lead and we'll wake up to Uncle Powell's green dildo of Bull Market.

>> No.17563954
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Where the fuck do you think you are? Fucking reddit, cunt?

>> No.17563959
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Oh that was gone long before I started trading.

>> No.17563961

Why would I lose all my money?
I'm confident all those stocks will eventually return to pre-coronavirus levels. Even if it takes a couple years.

>> No.17563963


>> No.17563978

North Carolina exit polls:
Biden 43.6%
Sanders 23.2 %
Warren 15.3%
Bloomberg 10.6%

Not even Bernie and Warren together match Uncle Joe.

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>> No.17563999

Oh this shits crashing tomorrow

>> No.17564000

I think it's already over if Sanders fails to take either California or Texas

Yeah, the fact that the polls had Sanders leading late last month before Biden got the endorsements and him now failing by this much.. jeez. Not looking good for the commie jew

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Market better be red tomorrow

>> No.17564002

Stocks don't care if Trump or Biden is in the WH since they're both corporate capitalists, they were only afraid of Bernie.

>> No.17564004
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guys its getting a little weird, m-maybe we can slow down just a little bit?

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>> No.17564010
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>BREAKING: Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg wins Democratic caucuses in American Samoa - ABC


>> No.17564013

Do people trade before their souls die?

>> No.17564014

You could be making money elsewhere with the money you spent during those few years

>> No.17564020

>bumping because some old fart that is gonna die to Corona and lose the election to Orange Man won a pointless primary

>> No.17564022

Based fucking plutotv watcher

Cheddar looks like a clown show to me. It’s the G4 of the financial news world. Use Bloomberg I’m pretty sure it’s on there.

>> No.17564026

Man nobody will know until tomorrow.

>> No.17564031

based jpg

>> No.17564041

Yes they return to pre-corona levels in a decade

>> No.17564043

Friendly reminder that the chinese word for penguin translates to "business goose"

>> No.17564044

Blacks swing it to Biden
Hispanics swing it to Bernie

>> No.17564045
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All three of the current highest probability candidates, Trump, Biden and Sanders are old as fuck.
Can you imagine the chaos if coronachan killed them all?

>> No.17564053

Who cares if it's not money that he needs now. You have to assume that average people do earn more than whatever you earn and are better at saving money if you are so confident at buying puts right now.

>> No.17564055

Like what?

I'm a novice, as I said. Me buying stocks at all is because my money has been sitting in a savings account doing jack shit for the past few years. I earn more in dividends in one year on $1,600 of stock than I did in interest on $16,000.

>> No.17564057
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fuck tripfags you fucks are ruining these threads

>> No.17564062

You're lucky I'm so trusting or I'd dismiss you right there

>> No.17564064

Its anton kreil

>> No.17564068

This is so fucking cringe, do American investors really sell/buy when the democrats do shit?

>> No.17564070
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>not a single comment mentioning the fed rate cut today

None of you bumbling faggots are going to make it

>> No.17564074

They don't call it Commiefornia for nothing.

>> No.17564077

It's owned by Michael Bloomberg.
Pretty famous for their bloomberg terminal

>> No.17564090

Listening to Aurora always makes me feel better

>> No.17564091

True true

>> No.17564093


Bernie lost because the youth voters that he was counting on for winning didn't turn out.

>> No.17564094

IS BIDEN REALLY FUCKING WINNING RIGHT NOW? LOL WHAT!?!?! I was kind of hoping for epic showdown between Trump and Sanders. Looks like we get 4 more years of God Emperor

>> No.17564101

I guess personally I get anxiety over opportunity cost

I'm have just been playing around with cheap options and swing trading. I figure it's better to lose money learning a few lessons than to wait 3 years for a 10% return.

>> No.17564102


It's old news by now. Didn't even pump the market.

>> No.17564110

Sanders would have lost to Trump harder than Biden. Old voters hate Sanders and young voters, Sander's "hope", just don't vote at all.

>> No.17564112

because voting is harder than throwing a few hashtags up on instagram, DUH

>> No.17564116
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>he thought the DNC would let Sanders win
lmao, they will do everything in their power to make sure that doesn't happen

>> No.17564120

Ayy guess who’s fucking an obese korean/American chick tonight bros!

>> No.17564122

Didn’t take long. I used to have high hopes but now I wish for calamity. Anything that moves the market. War, disease, famine, natural disasters etc... Makes me feel alive!

>> No.17564123

I really wanted to see Trump vs Sanders, it would be great content.

>> No.17564126

> AAPL going up

>> No.17564128

We discussed it earlier. Basically it did more harm than good, a cut that size should have boosted the economy majorly but it barely even did anything, now investors are actually more scared because the fed evidently has no control over the situation.

>> No.17564129

Haha no I didn't think they would just let him, but Trump got through, why couldn't Sanders?

People have been saying that lately, but I'm pretty young, and I voted for Trump. Why they no vote? I don't understand?

>> No.17564132

You shouldn’t TRUST it dummy. You shouldn’t TRUST any news outlet. Always be asking what their bias is, what they need to pander towards, and how they would want to influence perception.

They have some hot takes every now and again. They actually pulled a guy offf the air recently because he was sounding the alarm over coronavirus. You’d think they want people panicked because then they watch more news and trust trump less but no.

Media still wants us not panic for some reason, wants us scared but not panicked. Could be a bad sign of how bad things really are...

Anyway trust no one. It’s just that it’s actually news on Bloomberg. Cheddar has like crypto bullshit and other nonsense. Just because they report from the stock exchange doesn’t make them news.

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>> No.17564144

Fair point. I'm okay with playing it safe at this point. Maybe I'll get fancier later.

I bought 40 shares of Nintendo when it dipped at the end of 2018. If I had sold before coronavirus hit, I would have made 20%. Not a bad return after my first year owning stock.

But for now I hold.

>> No.17564145

Wait, if Trump gonna win... keep an eye on dem futures

>> No.17564147

Biden is senile and Trump is surprisingly sharp for his age. Trump will fucking mop the floor with Biden in debates and he will 100% win the next election if he's up against Pedo Biden.

Sanders admittedly is a lot sharper than Biden, I can't actually believe he's not winning.

>> No.17564149

Just bought UNH

Don’t fuck me plz

>> No.17564153

The short answer is they're lazy. The long answer is they're really fucking lazy.

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>> No.17564166

Nah my gf is 100% fresh off the boat and is not fat.

>> No.17564171

Well, the hardest lesson is to never trade with your emotions. I know bears and bulls act like they are playing on imaginary teams against one another but no body knows for sure what tomorrow will bring.

>> No.17564172

>Bernie lost
There goes my shorts. Nice job libtards

>> No.17564176

So can anyone explain the point of debates when the guy who says "I have more hair than I think I do" wins?

>> No.17564177

>but Trump got through, why couldn't Sanders?
I think the republicans were pretty worried about Trump running as a third party and guaranteeing their loss. I don't think the democrats have the same concerns for Sanders.
Also Trump's bravado played a huge role in him winning, Sander's has a little bit of that energy, but not like Trump did.

>> No.17564180

To mask their hypocrisy when they bitch about the popular vote.

>> No.17564184

post some nudes so we can confirm

>> No.17564185

Yeah I'm gonna lose money for sure now. Fuck.

I literally can not win, the day I decide to go all-in SQQQ and the market is going to spring back, fuck it all.

>> No.17564188

Facts. Commies are lazy.

>> No.17564189

We were here live when it happened. It didn’t do shot because it was priced in Monday. Remember that huge rally at the end? That was cuts.

>> No.17564190

Creating the illusion of democracy

>> No.17564192
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I want to see a pic of baggies gook. He has been lying about having a HIV status like Freddie Mercury. I don't mean AIDS but that he is pos.

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>> No.17564196

post baggies gf so my penjs may determine whether shes coomworthy

>> No.17564204

>fresh off the boat
Wow baggie with all your gains you couldn't even get her a plane ticket.

>> No.17564210

I've been getting JUSTed for 2 weeks straight, absolutely no gains.

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most of them have birthdays before Inauguration Day too

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Noice baggie. Once again you have hit the trifecta in value.

>> No.17564225

Just installed Robinhood, can't wait to gamble with everyone else! Going to file my taxes in the meanwhile.

>> No.17564233

20% is just as much as the market, might as well throw money into mutual funds at that point.

>> No.17564236

Didn't know Warren was 70, she doesn't look that old.

>> No.17564237

President Elizabeth Warren will win by campaigning on her potential survival.

>> No.17564243

>but Trump got through, why couldn't Sanders?
Trump ran for the right party, tax cuts, fight immigration, strong market, fuck China, love Israel, etc etc.. was basically all he needed to become good friends with almost every republican. Meanwhile Sanders is trying to push into a party that is more centrist than socialist, don't take me wrong.. the party is gradually changing but there's not enough people out there looking for "radical changes" to vote Sanders in and he will be dead by next election probably so the socialist dream will die if he fails this race (which the democratic elite will make sure happens).

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>> No.17564258

Yeah don't you want to be cool and gamble like us. We are your real friends now kid. Block out all other people in your life and buy at least 6 monitors so you can watch and trade stocks on 1 while you shit post in multiple threads with us. /smg/ will declare holy war and reclaim /biz/ from the hordes of pajeet coin pushers.

>> No.17564262


Trump is toast unless coronavirus goes away by summer or he manages to successfully pin the blame on Pence.

>> No.17564272

Buy the rumor, sell the fact

>> No.17564273
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>Pete buttplug and Klobb

Didn't they fucking quit

>> No.17564280

Is toast against who? His competition is literally worse than a milquetoast candidate.

>> No.17564282

and he needs 16 trillion to (((tackle climate change))) whatever that fucking means

>> No.17564283

Day trading:
>can see all price movements happening in real time
>stop losses actually work
>tiny spreads and no real intraday gapping for most non-penny non-shit stocks
>can profit off of multiple trades per day if you want

Holding overnight:
>price is still moving, but it is invisible and you can't see it happening in real time
>opening price is not guaranteed to be the same as the previous day's closing price, so gaps can and often do occur
>stop losses don't trigger, if your stock is all of a sudden worth 50% there is no move in-between, so the risk is way greater and harder to control.

why hold overnight? daily and hourly charts are nice and all to establish the long term trend but never understood why someone would willingly submit themselves to that risk. you don't even have to trade that long, most of the action happens in the first 2 hours of the day anyways, that's 1/4 of a normal workday. or you can just scalp little bits here and there during work hours potentially. E-mini's are 24/5 so you could trade them after or before work if you wanted, it's still doable for anyone to find time to do. but risk management is my biggest gripe.

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What's this i hear about USA lowering some kind of interest or something?
What's that all about?

>> No.17564286

Anyone looking to the FED to solve a supply side issue is fucking retarded. Oh wow, rates cut a half a percent, now I suddenly want to travel internationally and set up a massive conference, said fucking no one ever. This is also why the market isn't going to give a shit who wins tonight, regardless of what futures currently show.

>> No.17564288

Corona virus is not a threat to Trumps re-election. All Dems are unelectable.

>> No.17564292

They quit after early polling, I'm sure their delegates go to Biden since they endorsed him.

>> No.17564316

It is. You're delusional if you can't see how big of a threat Trump's garbage response is to his base. /pol/ has completely turned on him.

>> No.17564318

The election is in November, its too far to make any prediction.

>> No.17564319

ALABAMA IN THE BAG FOR JOE!!!! MASS TOO CLOSE TO CALL!!!! Tennessee has some polls still open because of the deadly tornados. So Fox isn't reporting on them until those polls close, but just mark it up for Biden.

>> No.17564325

well i hold my weekly and monthly puts overnight what else am i supposed to do

>> No.17564331

You'd be surprised how well that's worked in the past.

>> No.17564332

duh. there is no profit motive, so why would anyone ever bother to innovate especially in seriously difficult fields?

>> No.17564335

The election is toast unless Corona manges to go away by summer.

>> No.17564337

Inb4 warren buffet exits the market by dying of old age.

>> No.17564342

/pol/ literally never completely agrees with anything. You believe whatever you want, he still hasn't blown up his base like democrats have. Seriously, what issues are Democrats even running on other than orange man bad?

>> No.17564345

I love that show!

I'm pretty good with that, like I said I just need to cool it and be okay holding cash while I'm scoping out new positions. Actually tonight is the first night in awhile i have uninvested money sitting in my account.

Because I don't have 25k. Actually this reminds me to ask. I switched over to Ameritrade, can I daytrade now or do they have the same rules as Robinhood (only for the big boys)

>> No.17564346

People who voted early

>> No.17564349

Tulsi Gabbard got a delegate from American Samoa.

>> No.17564356

Trump's support will turn once the market reaches the bottom.

>> No.17564359

You can't Scabbard the Gabbard!

>> No.17564360

You DO have money to buy the “buffet death” Berkshire dip, don’t you?

>> No.17564362

The number one issue for democrats is healthcare, actually. Which is a winning issue now more than ever thanks to coronavirus.

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I've been getting justed ever since the repo fiasco. I sold out of everything as soon as that broke. And then watched everything continue to pump...


>> No.17564380

Yes. I am also watching Kraft Heinz.

My plan:

I will buy enough shares of Kraft Heinz for the dividend. I will then use that dividend to pay for the ketchup I buy from Kraft Heinz.

>> No.17564383

Well, I wish you luck to your trades. We all make it if we keep trying.

>> No.17564384
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I'm looking for some /biz/ advice. I have 600 dollars ready to invest in my charles schwab brokerage account. This will be my first investment. I'm only interested in long term investments preferably with low but reliable dividends. I would like to invest in defense aerospace, defense, precious materials, and Alaskan infrastructure/energy. I'm doing some research now but am willing to take advice. I know 600 dollars isn't much but it's simply what I am able to start with. I already have a retirement account that I contribute 13% of my pay into, so this will be a separate investment account

>> No.17564397


Wait until the market stabilizes.

If your response to this is "but I wanna get rich with my $600! seriously tell me stocks to buy!" then you're going to lose it all, and you deserve it.

>> No.17564403

>pol is trumps base
Wew lad

>> No.17564408

if corona crashes the economy hes toast. maybe it would have been different if he went full populist and closed borders early instead of trying to appease markets but it this becomes an epidemic hes fucked
people talk about black swan events but i really cant think of anything besides full scale war that would be worse for him

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>> No.17564413


All-in on ONTX.

>> No.17564416

Large percentage of voters saying coronavirus is impacting their vote? Most of those voted for Biden?

Well what’d you do that for?

He said long term so you could give him a SCHX VIG VOO etc.

>> No.17564419

I don't care what people say I wanted to see this country go socialist because of the memes, Biden is literally the most boring president ever, hes going to try to recollect through the Alzheimers how Obama would act and just follow what his nurses from the DNC will want. Although yeah with Biden the markets will guaranteed do 40000.

>> No.17564424

Remember, when someone is persistently telling you to buy something, they're probably selling you something that is expected to depreciate. Don't be a fool.

>> No.17564427

look into trading forex, then. it doesn't have the PTD rule iirc. get an in-depth education on trading based on moving averages, study all sorts of different types and test out ideas and strategies based on them.

>> No.17564431

I'm not actually in any sort of hurry, I didn't sign up because the market is crashing. I planned on doing it this year and it just so happens there is a lot of volatility right now.

>> No.17564432

I will laugh so much if markets were only waiting to make new highs to make sure Bernie was going to lose and none of this was Coronavirus lol

>> No.17564433

Except LCI. It's pretty great

>> No.17564434

Moor accurately they're poor. The people who would benefit the most from Sanders' policies are often uneducated and probably don't even realize we're in an election year.

>> No.17564436


All-in X, because US Steel has been slowly dying since 2008

>> No.17564439
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You know, many real traders go out of their way to actively AVOID any suggestions or opinions about what to buy.

>> No.17564441

How is healthcare a winning issue with corona? I'm willing to bet corona lasts as long as Sars and goes away as quickly as Sars. Not only that but the democrats idea for healthcare doesn't make it cheaper. In the quest for universal healthcare premiums and deductibles have gone up and coverage has gone down. I mean there were plenty of Democrats who were pissed with Obamacare. You really aren't getting anything good here.

I'm sorry but at some point I will screen cap these posts so when the election passes I can show people how much wishful thinking this is. I think you are out of touch with your base and Trumps base too and maybe reality. Dont get me wrong, trump is a kike but at least he isn't some liberal ideologue with the energy of a wet towel.

>> No.17564444

AMD is recovering, bro. everyone loves AMD. buy AMD. look at it going up from 45 to 50, higher lows, buy AMD buy it NOW

>> No.17564445

If dubs, S&P500 will be below 1500 next march.

>> No.17564454

Giving a poor crack addict more money doesn't cure his addiction, it leads to his quick death.

>> No.17564460


All right, cool. I'm just being a smartass. See >>17564416. ETFs or indexes are your best bet, especially now. In my personal opinion, we're near the bottom, and we'll uptrend gradually over the next few months.

>> No.17564463

so true it hurts

>> No.17564484

5.3k cases in SK

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>> No.17564498

Pay me $100/month

>> No.17564499
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Thank you Joe, and greatest ally: Israel.

>> No.17564503

What wrong with you?

The president should be boring. Boring is good. Stable is good.

What the hell happened where people want an entertaining president?

Stressed out and overwhelmed people use substances to cope. Give someone a roof over their head, a surplus of food, and deworming medication and they’re less likely to seek out drugs.

I understand your perspective, but it’s an oversimplification and you’re throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some people are just poor. It’s often a birth defect and very hard to overcome.

>> No.17564504

Why are there so many Dem shills in /biz/? Who actually believes Bernie or Biden could do better? Only shills or useful idiots.

>> No.17564508

So which is it? Are lefties more educated and wealthy, or poor and dumb? Also, the poor and dumb have tvs and phones. Yes they do, don't tell me they don't, all their excess money goes to entertainment, they're well aware.

>> No.17564509

I think his reaction to it will be how he's judged, not the effects of the disease, because the president has no control over how China handles an outbreak--especially if the rest of the civilized world has roughly the same amount of infections.

>> No.17564512

Yea but he'd be able to afford more crack then maybe rehab if he felt like it.

>> No.17564518


The DNC have too many long positions in Tech, and they don't want to lose money.

>> No.17564526

>give someone a roof over their head, a surplus of food, and deworming medication and they’re less likely to seek out drugs
Objectively false

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President Reviewbrah.
At least with him, you'll know what you're getting.

>> No.17564533

>Are lefties more educated and wealthy, or poor and dumb?

Just like conservatives, there are both poor and wealthy among them. The urban poor and college liberals both vote Democrats. It's part of the reason the party is so fractured.

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>coronavirus priced in
>biden taking the lead
>futures skyrocketing

Yeah bullbros, I'm thinkin' we're back.

>> No.17564540

>if he felt like it
But he doesn't have a problem, don't you know?

>> No.17564541

Great people through history are not boring. Only weak and pathetic people prefer boring and indolent.

>> No.17564546

Rich republicans like pipelines
Rich democrats like trains
Both like oil, but they'll argue over the best way to transport it.

>> No.17564557

It’s pretty much because the fucking NASDAQ went parabolic. Everyone was waiting for an excuse to take profits after last years wild run.

>> No.17564562

nice-u desu

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And wallah! Just like that, S&P 500 will never ever go below 3000 ever again.

>> No.17564580

Thanks, I'm still in the process of absorbing all the knowledge out there. I think maybe an ETF that is in one of the sectors I mentioned previously would be a good route. Although I do like the idea of being informed enough to bet on a particular company to invest in, but I know spreading it out with an ETF is safer.

>> No.17564582

This is most likely it.

>> No.17564598

Can you imagine donating to such an obvious scam, YIKES

Why aren't we working on teleporters? Shits gay in 100 years they'll be laughing at how people used to drive places.

>> No.17564604


bernie losing would be tragic for this profitable volatility

>> No.17564633

thats where he has fucked up
he had much better political instincts when he was yelling to close the borders during ebola. regardless of how good it is policy-wise it looks better than having fucking kudlow do PR about how all is well before everything goes tits up

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not clicking your random ass twitter link

trump would win next election even if there's a civil war. no matter how you look at it there's no other candidate you want to see in the white house, especially commie bernie.

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>gaps down behind you
Nothing personal, kid.

>> No.17564649

Green tomorrow IF Biden smashes the Commie

>> No.17564662

No nigger I’m talking about stability. Getting shit done is boring unless it’s a fucking montage.
Stability is good for business, that’s one reason the uk is fucked.

It’s not 100% true but it is quite true

>> No.17564679

What does Sanders have to do with a pandemic? You guys know he ran last time and there wasn't a crash right?

>> No.17564682

>>stop losses don't trigger, if your stock is all of a sudden worth 50% there is no move in-between, so the risk is way greater and harder to control.
This can go both ways. Averaging out at +-0%.

>> No.17564703

>return to normal

>> No.17564710

Bulls are getting desparate.

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>I'm only interested in long term investments preferably with low but reliable dividends
My mind went to KO when you said that. Coca-Cola stock have kept increasing in value over time and they haven't lowered their dividends in 58 years, only increased it or kept it the same.

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>> No.17564733

DNC already ran a court case (and won it) to legally justify picking a candidate and ignorong the primary results. DNC will pick whoever they think will convert the most people to liking them again, and accepting that pick means that guy's a puppet for the DNC. You already know about AIPAC in RNC. It's the same thing.

>> No.17564735

you are sub 80 IQ if you think someone who wants to double corporate taxes, and tax the rich by 52% as a candidate would have NO effect on the market.
>last time he didn't get the nomination

>> No.17564736

Was he ever in the lead last time?

>> No.17564741
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What is the difference between the stock market, and gambling?

>> No.17564745

You can't compare last primary to this one though. Hillary was always considered to be the frontrunner by far and now you have Sanders and Biden basically polling 50/50 in major states. The market never considered Sanders to be a threat in 2016 but they do now

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>in American Samoa

>> No.17564761

That was before he was president. The words of the president have to be more delicate than that of a citizen, even if he agrees. Actions are what matter & the virus has only just started.

>> No.17564762

>futures go up 1% for usa because of something in eu or japan
more proof why futures are a fucking joke

>> No.17564768

Gambling has a flat 25% tax

>> No.17564771


Your chances of winning in gambling are a lot slimmer and save for a few high IQ rollers, the variables are completely hidden. When it comes to slot machines it's pure probability.

>> No.17564782

Stability is good for those in power. Too much stability and you’re just a slave.

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You may not get off the ride until it comes to a complete stop and the restraints retract.

>> No.17564787

Gambling is for absolute retards only
Stock Market is for mostly retards

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Very interesting. I appreciate you bringing this to our attention.

>> No.17564808

Bernies are gonna blow a gasket if they don't win it because of Bloomberg

>> No.17564812


Habbening. Best thread of the year. Come lurk at least faggots.

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>> No.17564829

I'm a greedy bastard who wants to basically "do nothing" when he retires in 11 years. No more work "cause I have to". I want to toss my alarm clock in the closet and my work clothes in the garbage. I want to fucking sleep in 7 days a week. That ain't much to ask for now is it?. You know actually fucking "retire" as it was originally termed. I want to sit on my back deck in the summer with a cold drink and not worry about shit. Screw working my remaining years away till I'm a fucking old codger who's back is shot to hell and who needs a cane to get around.

>> No.17564830

>It's old news by now. Didn't even pump the market.
Day of reaction does not = outcome. It'll be a few days at least before things decide on a direction.

>> No.17564834


Habbening right now. Bes

>> No.17564835

I will look into this.
Thank you.

>> No.17564847

>/pol/ has completely turned on him.
/pol/ is not his base. Frightened uneducated middle Americans who see that the Democrats have abandoned the working class are his base.

>> No.17564849

This except when I'm 35 years old

>> No.17564858

Move to an eastern yuro country. You can freelance and live off of $300-500/mo like a king.

>> No.17564903

Literally just flip a coin, that's what markets do tomorrow.

If it lands on its side you become a millionaire end of month.

You can thank me later.

>> No.17564906

Freelance what? I don’t think anyone needs a freelance shitposter. And I don’t want to get murdered.

Fucking newfag lmao

>> No.17564910

So.. are you doing that?

>> No.17564914

Update: Bidenis putting down the Commie insurrection. Bloomie is mopping up in Tennessee. By morning, the Commie will be a joke and an afterthought.

Engage the Moon mission!

>> No.17564962

>Tax cuts gets signed
US debt ballons to unsustainable levels

>Phase 2 trade deal being announced and shilled
And then nothing substantive actually happens

> Corona solved by summer
We’re past the point where corona virus can be “solved”

Besides all this you seem to be confusing a market rally with economic expansion

>> No.17564963

The vote split! A Canadian classic. Sometimes. Or people will shame you in to voting a particular way because of the vote split boogie man, but vote splitting rarely changes the outcome.

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Oh my, would you look at those Chinese PMIs that just came out.

>> No.17564991

Corona is gonna visit us every winter from now until the end of civilization lads. The same happened with the Spanish Flu. The strain still exists and comes back every flu season.

>> No.17564995

>We’re past the point where corona virus can be “solved”
Viruses burn out over time even without vaccine. The global pandemic millions dead scenario espoused by the doomiest of doomers is not realistic.

>> No.17565002

not good huh, who wouldve thought

>> No.17565007

The darkpools... I think they knew. I think they were buying. I think tomorrow is a bright green kind of fuck commies kind of day. Let’s see UNH moon!

No because official Chinese stats are literally worthless. That’s why they have so many alternative indicators. You know anything about those?

>> No.17565015

26.5 vs 48 expected, a record low!

>> No.17565016

could you please link me a source?

>> No.17565017

how do you find out what is going on each day with dark pools?

>> No.17565019

Amazong employee from Seattle tests positive for coronavirus


>> No.17565025

Based on current numbers if it isn't contained (it won't be) it absolutely will kill millions. Life will go on for most, but it's going to take a noticeable toll.

Won't be the end up the world, but expect some disruption and panic.

>> No.17565031

Should I vote?

Should I make the poll workers stay late just so I can write in “peeper poopoo” as my candidate?

Would that be devilish?

WOW that’s their official stat?

>> No.17565037

Sure, here's the actual report:

>> No.17565040

okay. can we get back to work now and stop crashing the fucking global economy please? this isn't a problem besides the panic reactions of world governments to SHUT IT DOWN!

>> No.17565057

I don’t KNOW it’s all pretty

Been a long time since we’ve had something like this, and it’s nothing as bad as Polio.

Actually a lot better than polio because that attacked the young and left them crippled for life. I’d rather die in my 80’s from coronachan then get polio and be crippled for life at 10.

>> No.17565059

Below 40 is recession territory kek, I also saw those videos floating around the internet of entire factories running machines with no workers to trick the government into thinking they're operating

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how aboout......

>> No.17565069

>recommending scammers
Kill yourselves.

>> No.17565071

That's even worse than predicted

>> No.17565080

I don’t KNOW it’s all pretty theoretical but check out sqzme.co

If you’re smarter than I am, which is likely, then dig into the white papers and documentation and everything and figure out whats going on.

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>> No.17565086

And it’s out there in the wild now. It’s another flu that’s genna go around every year.

>> No.17565090

The University of American Samoa for Christ's sake?!?!

>> No.17565099

To be fair, this PMI report is almost certainly priced in. No one was expecting anything other than a horrific report.

>> No.17565112

Is it really? I felt like nobody gave a shit about coronavirus until Steve Jobs lowered future earnings on AAPL.

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Look fag we all know you made a shitty position with an amount so small you never even bothered showing us the actual amount. You are a loud mouth pussy kid and your type is cheaper than dime a dozen.

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>> No.17565124

>US debt ballons to unsustainable levels

>And then nothing substantive actually happens
You mean like the year long rally we had last year because of the phase 1 trade deal?

>We’re past the point where corona virus can be “solved”
Oh sorry, I didn't know you were an expert on the subject. So we're doomed then? We might aswell do a combined /smg/ mass suicide. Oh and don't forget to sell everything you own right now since we're doomed and all

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my father always said "never flaunt your wealth" faggot.

>> No.17565131

Sanders literally won't... seriously texas??? Omfg you guys are sad.

>> No.17565135
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Hey guys, new investor here.
I'm looking to invest in dividend paying stocks and I suppose index funds.
What i'm looking for is to take advantage of this market drop to buy as things get low but i'm not exactly interested in just selling off the stocks in any short term. In fact, i'm more interested in something that has a steady growth or perhaps staying power that just gets hit by this low point which we can take advantage of.

Anybody got some things that they're currently watching or that they're interested in?
I'm doing the research I can but I'm fairly new. I just found out about index funds today and I'm still unsure how they're any different from a mutual fund.

I'm not looking to buy into anything right away, mind you, as I'm watching the drop today and thinking that it might drop even further.

Current portfolio is pic related.
Yeah I know it's off target but I was kind of experimenting a bit.

>> No.17565136


He's literally 30% to Biden's 22%.

>> No.17565148

>to strangers who you will never meet who probably have way more than you
You can always try growing some balls if you want to hang out with us.

>> No.17565152

didn't mean to grab this guy's >>17564963 comment in that post I was just clicking it to be lazy and got too lazy and didn't erase the numbers.

Guess i'll just give my money to a hobo who can do better with it as I am clearly retarded.

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In stocks, after you lose you can use time to turn it into a win.

>> No.17565158

We already had 2 other more important Chinese manufacturing PMI reports on 2/28.

>> No.17565160

preschool on a dogs day cant hold more than a few hundred
maybe thousands of kids

joey sniffles has been at it since the great depression

>> No.17565161

Sanders is not going to win Texas to Trump... this is how desperate you fags are.

>> No.17565163

what do i have to prove to you? you see my buy in. im making money. either necc yourself or just be quiet faggot.

>> No.17565167

read boomer investing 101 in the OP

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Parteh Hats

>> No.17565172


Against Biden he will.

>> No.17565174

You’re right. I’m retarded. Praise the god emperor Trump. He will bless with sweet sweet gains.

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>> No.17565192

All the uneducated spics are voting for him. People without basic understanding of finance are the ones that support him.

>> No.17565195

you dont understand economics/politics at all. but here you are spewing your bullshit over your 1,000 account. people with hundreds of millions in the stock market dont want exposure to high risk you stupid retard.

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>> No.17565201

I dont know you tell me, you are really hard pressed to impress us but you cant be bothered to show the amount. I know how this is going to go if you do man up and show.

>> No.17565213

I just corrected the name I didnt reccomend him

>> No.17565214

impress you? impress some retard on this board? are you fucking serious lmfao? im helping you make money you faggot. yet you think youre ahead of the curve when all your posts are cringe-tier "bullfag" bullshit. necc yourself

>> No.17565216

is the idea with these that they lose a shit ton when the market isn't crashing so you can only be in them very short term? can someone explain how they actually work, im thinking about sqqq

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What a blessing for any country with a demographic pyramid tilted towards the elderly. Like any country who had too many old people and not enough young people entering the workforce because they had a national policy of one child per couple. Or whose young people stop breeding and became reclusive or workaholics. Or have a bloated social security system with a boatload of boomers waiting to cash in.

It's really sad though. The average age would decline. We'd lose a lot of grammies and grampas.



>> No.17565227

Oof, going to screen cap these posts for a post election salt mine. Hopefully this is proof to /biz/ to never to listen to champagne socialists.

>> No.17565235

All in on SQQQ and SDOW

>> No.17565240

Guys is Bloomberg the classic case of buying at the top? Trump monied his way in... I can too!!

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who here /bernie/ finna make stacks shorting the insurance market and then get free medical tendies after going financial expat?

>> No.17565249

He already has for the past 4 years, but I'm sure you were just as much of a doomsayer in late 2018, May 2019 and what was it? October or something 2019 I can't even remember because the doomsayers have cried so many times in the past few years because they missed the boat and had to FOMO in at the top, hence making them freak out as soon as the market goes down.

Again, sell everything you have. Don't preach it to me

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>> No.17565264


Cand someone break down what a pmi is for a retard? My Google assistant didn't explain it very well.

>> No.17565266

I need Bernie to win, I went all-in on inverse ETFs.

PLEASE for god's sake, please, I need to see some green or I'm gonna kms. I can't take the losses anymore.

>> No.17565271

i am. im short. if you think that after todays cut of 50bp that was a short lived pump in the markets isnt a fucking message from the gods of how fucked this economy is, you deserve to lose your money.

>> No.17565293

Kek are you weed bro, bwuhahahahaha.

>> No.17565296

The again culture has clung to it's roots, but the roots only half held. What we have essentially is a parasitic generation of elderly backseat driving their kids lives instead of investing in anything. They just bankroll their kids education and guilt trip them into doing anything but what they set out for them and buying them a house. Once in awhile they will angrily shop for vegetable for 4 hours. Oh and their offspring children also belong to the grandparents, because kids these days need to be wage slaves and work 10 hours a day. So basically the lessons of the cucked generation won't get passed down.

>> No.17565326

All you really need is that above 50 is expansion (good), below 50 is contraction (bad) and how the actual number compares to the expected number.

>> No.17565332

Are you talking about the US?
That’s all fine and good unless you’re in the cucked generation

>> No.17565349

Tax the shit out of fossil fuels like gasoline, thus fucking over everyone except those well off enough to buy a Tesla. Result: poor and middleclass fucked, as per the course. Real life example, France.

>> No.17565352

buy puts and with perfect luck you can make 2500 quick

>> No.17565371

It's the Mexicans. The President of Mexico right now is even more left-wing than Bernie

>> No.17565403

I said they MIGHT reveal the data at that conference, but the more likely one is the Hematology conference on the 12th. They also still have earnings on the 10th. They also have ANOTHER conference they are speaking at on the 20th. March is SNSS month. Breathe. Wait.

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/r9k/ here, it turns out I can buy and sell stocks with my SSDI neet bucks. I have about $9k in cash doing nothing to invest with. I'm looking for both long and short term investments. I'll need the money when Japan makes anime real and my cat comes back to life as a cute girl.
I know about that but my time on /g/ made me feel some companies deserve to fail.

>> No.17565640

Yes, the eternal newfag even tho been here for years, not tech savvy AT ALL is the real issue; could not care less, dgaf. Fucking check out thread mentioned faggot. Doubt you'll regret it. At the very least for the lulz.


>> No.17566147

Why did you buy the dead cat?

>> No.17566255

Tripfags = the dorks that name themselves? Im new

>> No.17566341

I dont understand how lefty faggots cant comprehend this. Its so obvious that every dem with any power at all is backing Biden. Its so obvious that they even dug Bloomberg up from the crypt and dusted him off in case the skeletons in Pedo Joe's closet came calling. But the manchikdren on the left.....the IPA drinking pieces of dog shit....the woke college girls.....the young turks......are so retarded that they can see that putting a communist like Bernie up against anyone on the right would be suicide. Im not convinced that Bidens wins today werent fabricated to give him a swing of success

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