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any tradies here?
im a 20 year old zoomer strongly considering quitting my corporate ragie wagie cagie and applying for a plumbing apprenticeship. done my research and it seems like there’s a mega shortage of skilled laborers in my state. is there anything i should know about the tradie life before i get into it?
all the trade school websites just provide links to the application pages to a bunch of different unions for that trade. the application process between the different unions seems basically identical and not very difficult (they give you a test on math, locating information and reading comprehension before an interview which looks to be graded on attitude basically).
learning an actual skill and working with my hands all day sounds absolutely fucking based

>> No.17402029

>>17401770
>wanting to clean up boomer shit for a living
CLEAN IT UP JANNIE

>> No.17402097
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17402097

>>17402029
you have to be 18 to post here

>> No.17402850

I don’t have advice for you OP, but I’m bumping because good non-crypto threads are rare.

>> No.17402866

>>17401770
>>17402097
probably the worst career decision that you could possibly make.
>trading your health for a paycheck
not even once.

>> No.17402884

>>17401770
trades are awful, don't fall for the memes

>> No.17402901

>>17402866
>$12,000 for trade school vs $100,000+ for college
>dont have to deal with HR roasties
>dont have to deal with psychopathic cubefarm managers
>learn an actual skill that i can apply to my own home when i get the capital to build my own house
>will never be outsourced
>union benefits
i’ll die at 40 for that

>> No.17402929

I quit a cubicle job and did a trade. Much happier. Only downside is back pain. But hours, pay, and work culture are 100x better

>> No.17402933

>>17402901
Guess how much I am going to pay to go to college this fall?
0 (zero) dollars.
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/construction-and-extraction/plumbers-pipefitters-and-steamfitters.htm
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/search/?id=209542&name=Oregon%20State%20University&page=0&sort=completion_rate:desc
CS majors---even at shitty state unis---mog the shit out of your "career"; all the while, they work 10% as hard as you do.

Seriously, congrats on this

>> No.17402980

>>17402933
im not a nigger so i can’t get free college
you can make retarded money starting your own plumbing business after getting a master plumbing license. you get paid to learn as an apprentice and make comfy money as a journeyman.
enjoy your carpal tunnel and shit vision

>> No.17403016

>>17402980
I'm not a nigger, either. Private universities love me-only heard back from 2 out of the 20+ I applied to, and guess what? Two full rides for having a 4.0 and a 1500+SAT.

The only scenario in which college may be difficult financially is if you are retarded and have rich parents who refuse to contribute. Many t50 schools offer full ride scholarships if your parents make less than $80K a yr. What's your excuse?

>> No.17403040

Imagine being a rational thinking white man and selling your labor to the highest bidder like a common prostitute.

>> No.17403069

>>17403016
good for you that youre smart and doing well
i did well in STEM shit in high school but i have zero interest in STEM fields
>Private universities love me
>only heard back from 2 out of the 20+ I applied to
you’re going to have to pick one of those two

>> No.17403098

>>17403069
You must not have even tried applying to colleges if you don’t even know how college admission works.

Whatever. Gl. Cest la vie

>> No.17403146

>>17403098
i went to college for 3 semesters and dropped out because my boomer friend hooked me up with a corporate job that literally everyone else in that position needed a degree to get. i am now looking at other options because ive realized all desk jobs are slavery and i would rather cut my gut open with a sword than continue doing this.
why are you acting like an uppity nigger?

>> No.17403167

>>17402901
>deal with angry customers and bosses
>hazardous fumes
>be slave to mafia-union for benefits that are standard in office jobs
>implying you're ever going build an entire house with your own hands when you're specializing in a specific trade skill
>implying trade jobs aren't filled to the brim with Mexicans already

>> No.17403214

>>17403167
>>deal with angry customers and bosses
i already do that
>>hazardous fumes
just exhale lmao
>>be slave to mafia-union for benefits that are standard in office jobs
except the job stability
>>implying you're ever going build an entire house with your own hands when you're specializing in a specific trade skill
people have done that with zero trade experience. try me faggot.
>>implying trade jobs aren't filled to the brim with Mexicans already
DYOR

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17403327

People treat the debate like it's "trade vs. college"

But what if you graduated from college and want to get into trades? Are these people common? Do you have an easier time getting into trades if you have a degree?

>> No.17403523

Become a Machinist

>> No.17403805

>>17403327
I did it the other way around. Became a carpenter after hs because I didn't know what else to do. Did it for a decade, made good money but unfortunately blew most of it on drugs and travel.
Got bored and sore so started uni a few years ago. Worked hard, no partying, got great grades, been riding scholarships the last few years.
No ragerts.

>> No.17404039

>>17403805
how old are you? is college interesting at your age?

I've always strongly believed after high school young men should go into a part-time job or light trade until their mid-20's where they can take college more seriously.
It took me 8 years total (6 1/2 actively enrolled) to finish my engineering degree, granted its tough as is and others in my situation wouldve given up but I dont doubt if I started it in my mid 20's I wouldnt have lost my scholarships and smoked so much weed.

>> No.17404129

>>17403805
what makes you so sore in carpenting?

>> No.17404187

>>17401770
I dont understand the brainwashed autists here that always claim to "enjoy your backpain, arthritis etc." for doing a trade job. As if sitting on your ass all day in a cube and typing out menial shit wont have an effect on you at all.

>> No.17404320

>>17402901
Smart thinking brother; if math and long hours of staring at screens is not for you its okay. Not only do you have a skill for life; you have a skill that you can use in any country. You can ever start your own crew one day like me and take it easy. I am carpenter though and do home renos

>> No.17404454

>>17404187
do you understand that there isnt some extreme dichotomy that mandates you either work in a cubicle or doing manual labor? There are a fuck load of jobs that take college degrees that dont use traditional offices. STEM is obviously the most worth but even then there are countless other jobs that never see a cubicle that use degrees.

>> No.17405067

>>17404039
I'm 31 now. Dropped out of hs young. Live in a country where that doesn't matter for entrance requirements if you can prove you're smart and motivated.
I find it really interesting. I love it in fact. Undergrad was fun, being spoonfed knowledge and problem solving skills that I'd have to retain and utilize was like playing a challenging game. Now I spend all day listening to music in a comfy chair writing code to model and predict physical reality.
Definitely glad I didn't go at 18 though, I would have picked a worthless degree and spent the time chasing pussy.
>>17404129
8 hours a day hunched over a nailgun

>> No.17405147

heres my take, i went to a vocational high school for hvac and attended uni for economics (currently tech sales wagecucking).. if you get into the trades seek unions. you can make 50-150k depending on hours and experience.. however your coworkers will actually be braindead for the most part, many will drink before work, during lunch, and after work. if this doesnt bother you, its an okay way to make a living albeit physically demanding.

if you choose to go corporate realize theres a good chance youre going to be automated out of existence in ~10 years.. and you will fucking hate your life, there is nothing as soul crushing as a cubicle. ive made six figs in my sales gig before but my mental health is borderline heinous. i still think about going back to trades all the time.

good luck, either way youre FUCKED. welcome to late stage capitalism. your best bet is to stack your cash, avoid dumb purchases and debt, and invest aggressively until your funds work for you and your time is no longer required as a means of exchange.

>> No.17405152

>>17405067
good for you, anon. glad it worked out

>> No.17405181

both ends work well for a goy, to be a goy you outa work like a goy.

dont work for som kike on the end tadpole, work for you kot dang self, get your own place unless your american you own nothing
i moving back mexico and set me up a ranch in uncontaminated water become a peyote rancher

>> No.17405218

>>17405147
>ive made six figs in my sales gig before
>either way youre FUCKED. welcome to late stage capitalism
How is this remotely fucked. If you save + invest you can hit 1m networth in 10 years easy.
Also sales wont be automated for a veeery long time, if ever.

>> No.17405237

Tradie here

Steer fucking clear of trades dude they are all shit and you will never make for than 50-60k max and will drive you to become a drug addict or alcoholic on top of ruining your body

>> No.17405243

>>17405152
Thanks, y-you too

>> No.17405326

>>17403040
>selling your labour to the highest bidder

what the fuck do you think the job market is fren? gotta play it like any other market

>> No.17405335

>>17403146
You have to understand that many anons are on the autism spectrum and can't comprehend the notion that humans can have lucrative careers that don't require a CS degree

>> No.17405339

>>17405237
>you will never make for than 50-60k max
are you a journeyman?

>> No.17405467

>>17404129
Are you kidding?

back gets fucked from lifting and constantly bending over, knees get fucked from crawling round, hands get fucked from hitting things with a hammer, lungs get fucked from all the random shit you breathe in, skin gets fucked from being in the sun, brain gets fucked from doing repetitive shit all day every day.

>> No.17405552

Was wagie in retail management. Work in factory now on fork truck. Good move

>> No.17405570

>>17402933
Just wait until your job gets outsourced to an H1B pajeet

>> No.17405578

>>17402980
Enjoy your bad back and knee pain.

>> No.17405608

>>17401770
Took the steam fitter test(plunking). Real easy and basic. The hardest part about union apprenticeship is waiting. If you have no experience, expect to wait at least a year or two before getting in. I went into the bricklayers because they hired almost immediately with similar pay.

>> No.17405618
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>>17405578
>what is mobility work

>> No.17405631

>>17405608
really? even with the massive shortage of trade workers?

>> No.17405645

>>17401770
every plumber i have met is actual garbage so it should be no problem for you to succeed in it if you want to

>> No.17405674

>>17405339
No he’s a fucking retard. He’s the stereotypical union worker. Thinks the world will end if he works one minute over 40 hours. Unions are pretty good minus the politics.

>> No.17405696

>>17405618
You're better off doing that as a white collar worker.

>> No.17405709

>>17405237
So you're saying they could earn as much as I do without a college degree minus the 4 years of college and $40k in debt. Seems like a decent setup

>> No.17405711

>>17405631
There were 30+ guys with experience in there with me. I have some friends that waited 4 years to get into the ibew. It all depends on the union. The “regulates” unions like steamfitters and electricians are tough. A lot of class work and knowledge. It’s not like the bricklayers or roofers where a brain dead loser can do it. I was amazed myself when I figured out just how long it could be.

>> No.17405752

CLEAN IT UP PLUMBIE

>bagofpissinpublicbathroom.jpg

>> No.17405767

>>17401770
You need to have an exit plan. Your body will break down by 45-50

>> No.17405798

>>17401770
Do it, you can always do something else after you get your ticket and no one can take your ticket away. Good fall back for trying new things, especially if your in the union, it’s easy to come and go in the union as long as your dues are paid.

It’s not just limited skills either. You learn problem solving skills that you can apply to everything. I can fix stuff at my apartment, my car, my electronics, plumbing, etc. I have a steel trade, it’s great I work as much as I want in a year. I get phone calls from the union with job offers.

I’ve been working and saving for the last few years so this year or next I’m going to do something else. Try my own business or whatever. Easy to do that with a trade

>> No.17405826

>>17405767
thats why you start your own business or become a project manager/superintendent when you get your master license

>> No.17405886

>>17405218
>implying i can hit target every year
>implying i wasnt just laid off ...

but yes it is not awful compensation wise... occasionally.

>> No.17406777

>>17402933
>free college
>still can't find a job
you're only half way there, it's like starving but saying "at least i'm not eating shit"

>> No.17406918

>>17406777
...?