/smg/ - Stock Market General

[Anonymous No.17272499]

secret society edition

popular brokers:
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Real-time market news:
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Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
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List of hedge fund holdings:
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>>17266926

[Anonymous No.17272510]

three day weekend

[Anonymous No.17272514]

Should I just say “fuck it” and max out my cc’s to buy options? I’m already fucked as it is...

[Anonymous No.17272517]

>>17272514
No.

[Anonymous No.17272520]

>three day weekend but have to work on Monday

[Anonymous No.17272521]

Time to read up!
What are you best learning materials anon, aside from the sticky and the rare gem posts on 'wsb'?
Might as well be productive this weekend

[Anonymous No.17272532]

>>17272499
Let's discuss SDGR. I see some anons buying in and I'm curious. What's their path forward for revenue? Any pharma guys know if their pipeline is any good? I've never done any pharma stuff so unsure of how big a deal this is. I know they had a spinoff company bought by nova nordisk I think.

[Anonymous No.17272535]

>>17272521
investopedia and youtube unironically

[Anonymous No.17272546]

see disc: >>17268741

>>17272532
i'm buying in on Tuesday.
honestly just dig into their website and some of my posts in pic related and you can start to get a picture.
their flagship is a revolutionary physics based research program for modeling and discovering drugs and diseases.
https://www.schrodinger.com/

[Anonymous No.17272550]

>>17272535
>youtube
Only with a heavy bullshit filter. There is a lot of trash on youtube about the market and it's not immediately obvious what is and isn't if you don't know much to begin with.

[Anonymous No.17272585]

>>17272546
wanted to reiterate that them having heavy traffic and dialogue with some VERY big players, and the involvement of their Chair Michael Lynton makes me doubtful such people would invest themselves in just some biopharma pennystock

[Anonymous No.17272601]

>>17272514
That would be silly. It would be a smarter idea to take out all the cash you can, go to a roulette table, put it all on black and then walk away if you win or suicide if you lose.

[Anonymous No.17272622]

>>17272546
It seems particularly good to me for most biotech stuff. I feel like most biotech struggle with sales to generate money until their first big drug is out. They seem to have software sales as a large part. That can maybe be used to expand and growth until pipelines start producing results.
>>17272585
That's a good point too. But those big guys can afford to wait 10 years for medical tests to be completed.

[Anonymous No.17272639]

>>17272514
We get it, you suck. No one cares

[Anonymous No.17272658]

>>17272622
>until their first big drug is out.
exactly, these guys are programmers, and the program is already done.
and watch the video on their website.
they ALREADY have fucking clients.
and they have like 5 conferences before March where they no doubt are going to be absolutely dunking their product down big money's throat.
This timing and everything with corona-chan, and Bill Gates semi-direct involvement?
I can imagine him as a keynote speaker on behalf of the company sharing insights gained through their software into the coronavirus.
it's a pipedream, but i feel like it's in that ball park.
or i could be wrong.

[Anonymous No.17272665]

>>17272639
>(You)

[Anonymous No.17272675]

>>17272520
Oh wagie~

[Anonymous No.17272681]

>>17272622
>medical tests to be completed.
that's the thing.
this isn't a biopharma company.
it's a software engineering company.
they make research programs to FOR the people that make drugs and stuff.
it's all done and ready to ship.

[Anonymous No.17272694]

>>17272658
>This timing and everything with corona-chan, and Bill Gates semi-direct involvement?
>I can imagine him as a keynote speaker on behalf of the company sharing insights gained through their software into the coronavirus.

I was almost curious enough to start doing some research until this part...

You're the FCEL shill, aren't you? This is as flimsy as that thesis that they would announce a microsoft partnership in their earnings report.

[Anonymous No.17272713]

>>17272694
Solid detective work, anon, I think you’re onto something desu.

[Anonymous No.17272716]

>>17272694
i'm not i'm a retarded new trader, see my disclaimer >>17268741. i don't want to shill people into following my stupidity.
you would probably be smart to stay away.

[Anonymous No.17272726]

>>17272716
however yeah i'm gonna be buying a dip on tuesday with $800 about and seeing how it goes

[Anonymous No.17272790]

does anyone know why an ETF like AMZA is such shit? it constnatly loses, why doesnt everyone just put the fuck out of it?

[Anonymous No.17272825]

Is an average 5% gains on every trade for a year doable? Am I aiming too high?

[Anonymous No.17272851]

>>17272520
get a gubmint job kekkies
>>17272825
depends on how many and what kind

[Anonymous No.17272881]

>>17272851
3 day trades a week

[Anonymous No.17272949]

NANO-TECHNOLOGY stocks to long for a 6-15 year time-frame?

[Anonymous No.17272955]

>>17272881
For a daytrade to clear 5% you'd have to be using leverage or be very lucky, you'd be exposed to a lot of risk. Remember to keep your stops tight.
Is the reason you only want to do 3 a week that you have less than 25k in your port? The restrictions that come with that up the risk too, you'll have a very hard time exiting positions when you need to unless you only do one at once. If you only have one trade going at once you will almost certainly not be able to get 5% three times a week.

[Anonymous No.17272967]

>>17272851
>>17272881
Say I start with a $100 initial investment - 1.05^150 trades ×100 = 150,797.75

[Anonymous No.17272980]

>>17272546
From what I see it's only a sotware for computational research. What makes them so different fom others?

[Anonymous No.17272995]

>>17272980
you know about as much as i do probably, i'm not gonna shill for it.
but it bottoming out and having a lot of big associations, a big ipo, and a lot of conferences makes me want to take it for a spin

[Anonymous No.17273032]

>>17272955
No I don't have 25k in my brokerage account. Maybe I've just been very lucky as a beginner but in the trades I've made in the last few months I've averaged 13% gains. Maybe I'll aim lower for 1% to 3%.

[Anonymous No.17273056]

>>17272881
>>17272825
>$1k initial
>5% increase for 3 trades a week
>after a year you’ll have $2+million.
Totally doable

[Anonymous No.17273068]

>>17273056
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.17273107]

My ID predetermine what my next stonks is

ROLL

[Anonymous No.17273117]

>>17273107
bmw bht?

[Anonymous No.17273125]

>>17273056
>>17273068
You're getting me way to excited

[Anonymous No.17273176]

>>17273117
>bht
Braveheart Resources Inc.

>bmw
that car company

[Anonymous No.17273206]

>>17273107
rollin for myself

[Anonymous No.17273218]

>>17272790
It's an MLP, yield 23.45%. a type of fixed income, these stocks tend to not be optionable. They tend to fizzle out and not have great returns.

[Anonymous No.17273332]

>>17272514

I came pretty close to maxing, made it all back and then some. I had full faith in Based Beezy to pull it through. Say what you will about his gold diggin' new plasti-girl, but she's lit a fire under his ass to become even more ruthlessly capitalist so she can afford a proper lifestyle.

Very Chad of Beezy.

ngmi w/o amzn fgts

[Anonymous No.17273358]

>>17273176
ironically I remember looking into braveheart resources a few years ago now i think about it

[Anonymous No.17273560]

Phoslock Environmental technologies. ASX: PET.

It's not often I give biz a moonshot, but I felt as if I had to share.

>Agent that removes Phosphorus in lakes which prevents algae blooms
>Several large contracts in China already, inroads into florida wetlands
>Literally no other competitor
>Market potential worth potentially trillions of dollars, think how important clean non-toxic water is for agriculture, QOL, tourism, the environment
>Issue only going to get worse, and the product will get more attention, with climate change

[Anonymous No.17273572]

does anyone know who the fuck is setting the odds on options? how is this shit different than a casino? some stocks the chance for payout is a crazy high %, other stocks its like you can win max of 5%. how is this shit fair? who the hell is making the contracts to begin with? this shit seems so rigged but i dont even understand the rules. at least with casinos they have laws that mandate the odds. slot machines have to pay out a certain % by law. whos running this shit

[Anonymous No.17273579]

>>17273572
Options are gambling to an individual investor, the price is determined by the market

[Anonymous No.17273588]

>>17273107
roll

[Anonymous No.17273649]

>>17272681
>this isn't a biopharma company.
>it's a software engineering company.
there are better companies doing that
MSFT Amazon cloud etc..

[Anonymous No.17273658]

>>17273218
do they give that income even during a bear market?

[Anonymous No.17273692]

>>17272995
>but it bottoming out and having a lot of big associations
which association does it have?

[Anonymous No.17273698]

>>17273649
cool, buy MSFT
i'm gonna buy SDGR

[Anonymous No.17273712]

>>17273692
Bill Gates and Google Ventures as investors, Michael Bynton as chair.
see >>17272546

[Anonymous No.17273720]

any nano technology stock to long for a 6-15 year time-frame?

[Anonymous No.17273724]

>>17273712
Lynton*

[Anonymous No.17273730]

>>17273579
but theres prices i would buy at that arent available for strike prices that arent available

[Anonymous No.17273746]

Anyone else wanna go all in on 5G stocks like Ericsson and Nokia?

[Anonymous No.17273760]

>>17273730
my man it's not like theres a room where people say what "odds" options have. They trade like stocks, with a bid and ask determining what people will buy and sell them for. There are standard methods of options valuation that are pretty statistically solid, large parts of the market use them to gauge contract's value.
What prices aren't available at what strikes?

[Anonymous No.17273775]

>>17273712
>Michael Bynton as chair
sorry newfag...what's the meaning of ''chair'' ?

[Anonymous No.17273797]

>>17273746

warren buffet doesn’t understand 5g so this old af boomer won’t invest

[Anonymous No.17273804]

>>17273775
chairman of the board of directors.
read michael lynton's wikipedia.
dude is a HUGE fucking player.
and he's only 60.

[Anonymous No.17273853]

>>17273746
Nope.

This looks like a play for small spec and retail praying that Nokia and Erickson can win big off of the trade war. Could be.

Not sure why it’s rallying recently then. Could be because BoJo is getting some resistance in parliament or whatever for allowing huawei to build UK 5g. I don’t want to speculate that some political resistance will be enough to change his mind. Very easily could be politicians just trying to win points by being anti China in the Uk. Pandering to the growing nationalist sentiment with no real consequences.

Maybe don could change bojo’s Mind, maybe it’s a negotiating tactic for Boris. But now it looks like Trump’s administration is going to allow huawei to buy and sell with more US chipmakers. The huawei fight may not be winnable.

So I’d rather invest in good companies with good businesses, that don’t depend on trying to game political squabbles. That’s probably what warren would do.

[Anonymous No.17273857]

>>17273746
>Ericsson and Nokia
priced in probably

[Anonymous No.17273867]

>>17273775
also see disc: >>17268741
i have NO idea what the fuck i'm talking about

[Anonymous No.17273935]

>>17273760
if these methods to price options are so solid then it should be a petty well zero sum game.
Then I want you ask you if there are some methods to exploit some option like a buy call for tsla recently before the moon

[Anonymous No.17274020]

>>17273935
on an individual contract-to-contract basis, if you ignore other factors like owned stock, commissions, taxation, etc, options kind of ARE a zero-sum game. If your bought contract goes up, whoever sold it is losing on it. Some say this isn't strictly strictly true, IV can cause some fuckery and there is a disparity in spread sometimes, but that's minutia.
The reason it's so close to zero sum is that there's an efficient, liquid market for them (generally). Honestly sometimes I wish it was less priced in, you'd be able to pull off janky shit.
As for if I know any methods to exploit options? Just make bets with a percentage of turning out right for a profit/loss within your tolerance for risk. I like selling OTM calls, frequent profitable bets with a high % of turning out in my favor and nice opportunities to both exit and profit off the underlying.

[Anonymous No.17274031]

>>17273804
He worked in publishing, film, and music. And works for Snapchat?

This is what you’re building your case off of? That is not the resume of a man who builds my confidence in a biotechnology software company.

If you’re being legit, i urge you not to go “all in” with whatever investment money you have.

Watch whatever presentations are already available, see what hedges and institutions are buying, look deeper into the company. Contact investor relations and request more material. Dig. It’s good practice if nothing else.

Turning $800 into $8000 won’t change your life nearly as much as learning how to dig into a company. And turning it into $100 will leave you with much less opportunities to learn. And less fun watching your savings grow.

>>17273935
It is pretty zero-sum, though there are some practical uses like the idea of “protection” for people managing large sums of money. But for small amounts, mostly protection will just whittle away what money you do have. Diversification is better.

There are other ways for more sophisticated traders, but they generally didn’t start by first learning options.

Tesla turned around at exactly the right time for a lot of those people who posted major gainsporn. The rest of the time, the people who bought calls sold them for a fraction of the price or watched them expire worthless. Those people who bought shares instead, well they’re probably pretty happy right about now.

Options are time sensitive. They turn time into your enemy.

[Anonymous No.17274208]

>>17274031
>Options are time sensitive. They turn time into your enemy.
or your friend :3

[Anonymous No.17274372]

>>17274031
thanks will dig a bit more, though am confident in the share price being well bottomed where it's not much of a risk.
that and these tactical risks are controlled for at the strategic level through dcaing $13k at $1000/mo, and this is just 80% of that based off my own risk calculations: 90% certainty share price will appreciate in the coming month makes 10% uncertainty and thus 10% risk; add that number again and subtract from 100% gives the high risk investment amount of 80% based on 90% certainty, and would repeat that to get medium (70% investment) and low risk (60% investment) amounts to spend on a 90% certainty.
as for the chair, his work in particular industries isn't the point, it's the level at which he managed it.
he was in charge of disney hollywood in the 90's for fuck sake. do you have any idea how much money he was managing. and he was CEO of sony pictures for 13 years.
those are huge positions that if i saw on a resume i would feel confidence in the well management of the project.
but hey that's me.

[Anonymous No.17274474]

>>17274372
yeah president hollywood pictures 1992-96.
he was 32.
god damn.

[Anonymous No.17274482]

>>17274474
disney* hollywood pictures

[Anonymous No.17274590]

Anyone here use arima in R to predict stock prices?

[Anonymous No.17274598]

>>17274020
>The reason it's so close to zero sum is that there's an efficient, liquid market for them (generally
more liquid than futures?

[Anonymous No.17274609]

>>17274031
>Contact investor relations and request more material
how can I do that?

[Anonymous No.17274762]

>>17273560
Do they have any quarterly earnings report?
All I can find is the one from last year. They are actually profitable though, even though they are expaning, so I am interested.

[Anonymous No.17274777]

>>17272520
>work 8 of 9 days

[Anonymous No.17274780]

>>17272251

Would $7 1/2021 call options be worth anything since the supposed buyout price is only like $7.30?

[Anonymous No.17274847]

>>17272499
I fucked up. I should have invested in SPCE back in December and now I didn't. Shares are almost at 30 bucks a pop and probably going to keep climbing.

[Anonymous No.17274889]

>>17274598
well... no

[Anonymous No.17274984]

Feels good being super bearish ahead of the huge recession/depression

[Anonymous No.17275062]

China's measures have been completely successful and we won't see a panic reaction to get resu......

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/16/reuters-america-chinas-hubei-bans-vehicle-traffic-to-curb-spread-of-coronavirus.html

SHANGHAI, Feb 16 (Reuters) - The government of Hubei province, the center of China’s coronavirus outbreak, said on Sunday a ban will be imposed on vehicle traffic across the province to curb the spread of the virus.

[Anonymous No.17275090]

>>17275062
Hu Xijin's going off on twitter trying to assuage fears, he posted this minutes before it was announced the first person died in Taiwan.

[Anonymous No.17275095]

>>17274847
FOMO?

[Anonymous No.17275105]

>>17275062
feeling good for tuesday

[Anonymous No.17275114]

>>17275090
The most important thing is they resume work. Worlds entire medical supply is at risk because it's all in China.

The cost of using containment to stop the spread is higher than shutting down economy for 2 more months, which won't even work

[Anonymous No.17275127]

>>17275105
yeah I hope the japs panic all next week as they realize they are fucked

[Anonymous No.17275184]

>>17275105
The only 3M factory making them in USA is working 24/7. Every single mask factory is working 24/7 worldwide and prices are up to 20x higher.

[Anonymous No.17275221]

>>17275095
Maybe but there's a lot of news. For example they relocated their shuttle to New Mexico for final tests which caused a big buzz in market share growth. There's also the reality that they have no serious competitors in this market, which also has a high entry level fee just to be seriously considered as viable. At the very least I could have made some decent cash just on all this buzz alone.

[Anonymous No.17275231]

Is China instituting hard information restrictions and crack downs because the coronavirus is contained and about to be over. Total Victory for xi Jinping's leadership?

OR

so they can incinerate the bodies, let the fire run, restart economy, and clamp down during the peak.

[Anonymous No.17275292]

Good thing white people never get sick. The power of white people....feels great. And white people will always be rich.

White power!!!
White power!!!!

[Anonymous No.17275319]

>>17275292
Based.

[Anonymous No.17275321]

Am I wrong for thinking of brand pricing power as the only moat that matters? When companies can increase prices and people pay happily like Apple or Ferrari. I have a hard time investing in energy stocks for example. Nobody cares if the oil they buy was drilled by Shell or Exxon. Or what about construction? I need dirt moved and couldn't care less if the shovel says Caterpillar or Komatsu on it.

[Anonymous No.17275328]

>>17275292
That's why a rotation play is going to work. Can start short Asia and then move to shorting the west. I support the spurious ACE2 rumor mongering for this reason, thanks infowars

[Anonymous No.17275349]

Any tips for getting the best dividends? I'm new to stocks and I want put some of my crypto profits into recurring income.

[Anonymous No.17275352]

>>17275321
Construction tech is important anon because you need to look at what company has highest exports. Like mitsubishi supplies a lot of Europe

[Anonymous No.17275651]

Before looking to buy actual stocks and similar finance products, I would like to try out one of those "virtual trading games" where one can create virtual depots and practice with trading and get knowledge on costs etc.
Do you have a recommendation for this? For instance, is this one good? https://www.investopedia.com/simulator/

[Anonymous No.17275670]

Those of you who buy crypto that also play the stock market are walking contradictions.

[Anonymous No.17275743]

>>>/vp/42780416
Thoughts on /padt/?

[Anonymous No.17275788]

HOW ARE MY ASTRONAUTS DOING TODAY, LADS?

[Anonymous No.17275802]

>>17274847
>SPCE
why does this climbs?

[Anonymous No.17275822]

>>17275802
Massive Bubble honestly, just sell it before it dips and be happy, then buy back in when they have their first actual flight in June

[Anonymous No.17275853]

>>17273560
This cannot be true about the competition. This has been done in Finland recently. There was country wide media coverage about one small lake they used some chemical to tie the phosphorus to the bottom sediment. For a while the water was crystal clear and it became a sensation. Then a few years later it had returned back to normal.

What I mean is that the technology doesn't sound new or complicated at all. So if there truly isn't any competition at the moment in USA, there would be when it gets profitable.

[Anonymous No.17275895]

>soon

[Anonymous No.17276110]

>>17275895
It's not being circulated in the media yet, but the Chinese have just found out that they can successfully treat Corona infected with critical condition by injecting them with blood plasma from recovered patients. They are going to round up the survivors and milk them dry until Corona-chan is crushed.

The virus was unstoppable and the economic collapse of China inevitable until yesterday but now the situation has changed. It will all blow over and the normies and literal retards in their smug self-assertion will cry I told you so, never knowing their utter ignorance of how close we came to the brink.

Stonks are going to pump more once the situation is completely under control in a month or so. It's fucking over. I'm sorry Bobo, but it's over.

[Anonymous No.17276158]

>>17276110
That's the plot of the movie Outbreak (1995)!

[Anonymous No.17276170]

the Wallstreetbets discord is full of middle-aged people!!

[Anonymous No.17276175]

I want to open a trading account with my bank and buy Tesla long term

[Anonymous No.17276188]

>>17273107
Intriguing approach. Rolling.

[Anonymous No.17276201]

Has anyone automated some of their trades?

[Anonymous No.17276228]

>>17275651
bump

[Anonymous No.17276229]

>>17276201
yeah, but it keeps buying high and selling low
it's literally the opposite what I want it to do

[Anonymous No.17276266]

>>17276110
>Chinese discovering anything EVER

[Anonymous No.17276273]

>>17276229
so just bet double the amount in the opposite direction and cancel the trades your system makes

[Anonymous No.17276287]

>>17276273
i mean get out of the trades your system makes*

[Anonymous No.17276320]

https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/agri-news/world/india-reports-crop-damage-as-locust-plague-spreads-to-asia/

nice, biblical plagues and swarms of locusts

[Anonymous No.17276330]

>>17272694
>FCEL shill
He has the same syntax I think you're right. Tread carefully with SDGR anons.

[Anonymous No.17276334]

AI
AGNC
ORC

[Anonymous No.17276338]

>>17275670
Why?

[Anonymous No.17276349]

>>17276110
That's nothing new.

Rapidly scaled treatments based on naturally occurring neutralising antibodies such as convalescent plasma or hyperimmune globulin, on the other hand, have been shown to be relatively safe and potentially effective for reducing mortality from several infections such as SARS-CoV and influenza [43–45], and may hold promise for MERS-CoV as well. This strategy, however, relies on the rapid identification of cases and contacts and immediate deployment of products to have maximal impact. One study found that convalescent plasma decreased mortality in SARS-CoV patients only if administered within 14 days of illness [44]. A network for the use of convalescent plasma for case clusters of MERS-CoV is currently being assembled [43] to test its safety, efficacy and feasibility. However, actualisation of this plan is limited by logistical challenges, local technical capacity and donor supply. Unfortunately, no host-derived experimental interventions have yet demonstrated appreciable benefit in acutely ill, MERS-CoV-infected patients in a consistent or controlled manner. This reality, although, has not slowed down the discovery and advancement of passive prophylactic products derived from vaccinated and infected animals and humans.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4745090/

2016

>chinese discovery

Do more research before you post stuff here as breaking news

[Anonymous No.17276350]

>>17275349
See
>>17276334

Just scroll through and look at what people also buy

You have to keep rotating your div stocks to the ones being hyped to make sure you lose as little capital as possible

[Anonymous No.17276415]

Or the Thai "Cure"
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/thailand-sees-apparent-success-treating-virus-with-drug-cocktail/articleshow/73879572.cms?from=mdr

N=1

Or the Chinese "Cure" that rallied global markets 1.5%
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-futures-surge-on-reports-about-coronavirus-treatment-2020-02-05

>>17276349

>>17276110

>B*ll brains

[Anonymous No.17276467]

>>17275895
>soon

[Anonymous No.17276477]

>>17276350

Ok thanks, that's useful. These threads are a bit hard to follow due to my lack of context for what's being posted. ORC sounds funny so I'll look at that one first.

[Anonymous No.17276482]

>>17273107
h-here goes nothing...

[Anonymous No.17276483]

Class is in session! Who can fill in the blanks:

Buy the ______, sell the _____.

[Anonymous No.17276492]

>>17276482
>Tupperware
FUCK

[Anonymous No.17276513]

>>17276350

>Orchid Island Capital, Inc. (NYSE: ORC) is a specialty finance company that invests in residential mortgage-backed securities, or RMBS.

Bruh, you're putting your money in mortgages when the entire Eurozone is about to collapse? You should read up on the new EU budget they're trying to pass. It's absolutely insane. One of the smaller EU nations, the Netherlands, pays the most per capita. Now they want to raise the tax to 1600 euro per person annually, despite Brexit. A Nexit is sure to follow if this happens. Everyone in the EU is already dodging taxes left and right just to stay afloat.

[Anonymous No.17276515]

>>17273935
A lot of people had contracts expiring on TSLA that day which is part of the reason it peaked so high
A bunch of TSLA had to be bought/sold to fill the contracts which drove the price up

[Anonymous No.17276524]

>>17276334
>AI
new company bleeding money
>AGNC
pays less and less dividend each year
>ORC
same as AI, just bleeding more

i'll admit AGNC is tempting though because their stock value is going sideways instead of down and they have been around for 12 years. do you know anything else about AGNC?

[Anonymous No.17276571]

>>17272514
So this is the power of investing

[Anonymous No.17276582]

>>17276513

For your perspective, the average HOUSEHOLD in the Netherlands earns around 2000 euro. Average. 50% make less than that. And a lot of people don't even work because socialism, so the pressure on the working populace is even higher.

>yeah bro just work 2 to 3 months in the year for free for the EU
>and another 4 months for the Dutch state

I'm pretty sure I can hear the lower income people build guillotines right now.

[Anonymous No.17276638]

>>17276513
>>17276582

hehe
>Europe

how many natural citizens who could work but don't want to are on the dole? how easy is it to not work and just get government euros?

[Anonymous No.17276670]

>>17276638

It's basically the default for anyone who would otherwise make minimum wage. You actually LOSE MONEY BY WORKING here. Let that sink in, what that shit does to a society. If you decide to clean offices or some shit, you actually have a realistic chance of losing all kinds of subsidies. You have to learn at least double minimum wage to make working interesting, otherwise you're better off taking handouts like a dog.

Of course combining this with open borders and a disarmed populace this will lead us straight into hell. Buy guns. Lots of them. Otherwise you end up with socialists pushing all the poor of the world onto your back and into your homes.

[Anonymous No.17276697]

>>17276582
>Average. 50% make less than that.
you're thinking about the median. (usually when people just write "average" they talk about the mean, not median, which is why i assume you wrote something incorrect)

[Anonymous No.17276721]

>>17276670
What % of the population isn't working and is living on government handouts? 5%, 10%, 15% ?

>>17276697
also remember that in some distributions the mean and median will be the same value, or very close...

[Anonymous No.17276730]

>>17276513
Are the Netherlands even a net contributor?
There's like five countries that pay more to the EU than they take back. The EU is pretty much a trillion dollar Franco-German ploy where they pump money into zombie Southerners, dwarf states and Eastern shithole countries to extend their sphere of political influence. The rest of the 26 members who cry about paying to the EU are willfully ignorant of the fact that they get more money than they pay. They can't do basic math.
I can't believe I'm defending the EU but this retardation has to stop.

[Anonymous No.17276765]

>>17275651
that's the one my friend and i use. it's great because there's a bunch of game rules you can modify to your liking and they even have realistic starting budgets as low as $1000 so if you're like us you can play more realistically

make sure to play around with options while you're in there. and invite your friends, too. it's more fun when it gets competitive.

[Anonymous No.17276768]

AAPL and MSFT combined have more total market cap than the entire Russell 5000

[Anonymous No.17276838]

The only way to make serious money is to buy US stock options.

[Anonymous No.17276848]

>>17276697

It's irrelevant, they're retarded government-published statistics anyway. People who live off of subsidies are counted as "people with income", but not for all subsidies. Only the ones marked as income for income tax purposes. Yes, they pay income tax on these subsidies. So they get money from the government which is immediately taxed by the government. Which has to be checked by bureaucrats.

>>17276721

Since we were talking about the Dutch, they have about close to a million people on handouts right now and their entire population including the old and the young is only 17 million. I don't know the size of the working populace but the tax pressure is well over 50% at this point. But only for people who are net contributors. Insanity.

[Anonymous No.17276858]

>>17276730

https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

[Anonymous No.17276882]

>>17276838
my portfolio is long USA short ASIA right now

[Anonymous No.17276924]

>>17276848
the EU is so weird
Germany, France, and the Scandinavians have been subsidizing the racially inferior Southern Europeans for well on two decades now, and all the Southern Europeans did was to increase their welfare programs.
I understand the political line about why Germany wouldn't just shut the whole thing down and walk away (they need the rest of Europe to consume their products); but still, it seems like they need to hit the reset button and let some of the over-spending governments in the eurozone fail.

[Anonymous No.17276967]

>>17273107
Oregano

[Anonymous No.17276999]

>>17276858
Well, Netherlands is in the sixth spot so they're most likely net contributors.
However, this chart is extremely deceptive since it doesn't reflect that the majority of EU countries withdraw more than they contribute. Pic related should all be deep in the negative.
For them EU taxes are like paying a 10€ service fee to receive their monthly paycheck.

[Anonymous No.17277055]

>>17276924
well it's not just economics, it's about preventing war. countries with the same currency and that trade/travel more freely with each other are less likely to start anything. so it's a price for peace. sure you can have alliances otherwise too but it's a lot easier to break those if the countries aren't entangled in all sorts of ways.

[Anonymous No.17277120]

Sold my SPCE Friday, realizing a 68% gain, gonna buy back after earnings or correction.

[Anonymous No.17277165]

>>17273107
Roll

[Anonymous No.17277177]

>>17277120
wish i had listened about SPCE, i'm still skeptical

[Anonymous No.17277214]

>>17277177
I don't put much weight in the actual company. But the volatility is so good for a swing trader

[Anonymous No.17277223]

>>17277055
I don't think the modern Europeans have the fortitude to actually start any wars. (unless by modern europeans we mean the imported middle easterners, who are happy to make some violence...)

the real question is about how can they make the EU economy "work". The idea was that the non-German/UK economies would catch up eventually, but that never happened. As far as I can tell, it never even got close to happening. The southern europeans have just been sitting on their ass the entire time, collecting as much as they can and doing as little work as they can get away with, while another generation of krauts continue to slave away and actually produce things to keep the whole scheme running.

[Anonymous No.17277245]

>>17276483
Buy the top
Sell the dip

[Anonymous No.17277268]

>>17277055
No it's about being relevant on the world stage. Having a europe that doesn't stand on the world stage together makes them close to useless if they want to push for change, trade deals or whatever. EU is the second largest economy in the world so the only threat like always would be US and China when talking trade, but if there's no EU you have lonely countries with extremely less influence overall. China and the US would be able to push every single european country around at will if that happened.
Preventing war is not really an issue in europe anymore, it was an issue and EU helped prevent that to an extent but that topic is outdated now.

[Anonymous No.17277291]

>>17277223
EU is dead just forget it and focus your energies thinking of Asia and USA. I can't imagine wanting to invest in EU in any way unless it's hedges shorting some banks.

[Anonymous No.17277369]

>>17277223
>I don't think the modern Europeans have the fortitude to actually start any wars.

they don't have the population. Unless they want to send old people and "new Europeans" into battle its not demographically possible for any Euro nation to wage any large scale war.

Too childless and too old. China will be in a similar boat in 30 years.

[Anonymous No.17277391]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-pharmaceuticals-idUSKBN2072GS
https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Gottlieb-Senate-Statement-Homeland-Security-Governmental-Affairs.pdf

hmmm

[Anonymous No.17277516]

psst.

Gilead is due for a pump. A china stock pumped +20% on news it was producing a Gilead patented drug.

[Anonymous No.17277569]

>>17277268
Also, this is why right-wingers should be pro-EU and try to change it from within instead of leaving it. Leaving it would basically ensure you becoming chinese or american bootlickers no matter what. Not to mention that a majority right-wing EU would cause an economic european boom because of the removal of regulations, promotion of new tax laws to influence more buying/consuming and more.

[Anonymous No.17277608]

>>17277291
What is there in ex-Japan Asia to invest in? We missed the sweatshop and child labor boom of the 90s. China is a shadow economy propped up by a manipulated currency. The continent is populated by fraudulent low skilled labor who never invented anything except means of theft.

[Anonymous No.17277627]

Pay the fuck out of student loans for 2 years, or pay standard and try to beat out the interest on my loans through stocks? I have like 30k in debt because my parents shilled the college jew to me so hard.

[Anonymous No.17277641]

>>17272514
jeebus kribes do a debt transer to another card dumbass and then stop buying shit on credit

[Anonymous No.17277665]

>>17277627
depends on the interest of the loans. if they're over 4% i'd pay those first, but that's just me and my conservative approach.

[Anonymous No.17277666]

>>17277627
what are the interest rates?
how much income do u have?

[Anonymous No.17277668]

>>17277608
as a civil engineer dropout this webm makes me cringe like no other. a building made of dirt and stucco and then you got this faggot that WILL NOT STOP PICKING AT IT.

[Anonymous No.17277756]

>>17277668
Zhuang Xiu

Those apartment complexes are terrible. Everytime someone moves in they "redecorate" the entire inside which means lots of demo work, jackhammers working inside concrete buildings.

So all day long anyone inside is dealing with extreme noise and vibrations.

People don't move in and out like in the west. It's completely redone each move in and out.

[Anonymous No.17277775]

>>17277665
>>17277666
Interest rates range from 6-8%. I just got my first decent job paying 75k + benefits and vacay. I put 2k into stock, and I am doing okayish, I've got it up to 2500 now after 2 years. Maybe that not amazing. I thought of taking riskier stocks like Tesla in hopes of getting a leap frog effect on my loans. Maybe I 50/50 invest and payoff?

[Anonymous No.17277822]

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-futures-surge-on-reports-about-coronavirus-treatment-2020-02-05

the market is intelligent and got it right

reminder on the 5th we got a coronavirus cure according to market movement

[Anonymous No.17277825]

>>17277775
at 6-8% you should pay off the loans
at most go 75% repayment 25% investment

[Anonymous No.17277833]

>>17277775
i'd pay the loans. if there were any risk-free investments that returned me 6-8% i'd be all over it

[Anonymous No.17277843]

Don't mind me
>>>17277777

[Anonymous No.17277883]

>>17277822
this is how you know that shit was planted in that chink lab and that it was an bio-attack all along. it takes years to develop and produce a vaccine. when SARS broke out in early 2000s scientists were talking about 10 years for a vaccine and they still dont have one.

[Anonymous No.17277978]

watching/playing/reading anything good lately /smg/ or do you just trade stocks all day then go to bed at 4 in the afternoon?

[Anonymous No.17277994]

>>17277055

So importing hostile invaders and having them beat you and rape your daughters will prevent the next Hitler? Who by the way fought to prevent this exact scenario. The EU was created by people like Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi, who wrote an entire book about how he would eradicate the "pure Europeans" and create a race of "half-brown slaves" to serve the jews. It's called the Kalergi Plan and it's available online for free. You should read it.

Fun fact: Macron and Merkel have both won a Kalergi medal for their diversity and open borders policies, called the Charlemagne Prize. It's literally a prize for whose policies can destroy the European peoples the fastest.

Don't bother looking any of this up on (((google))), use something like duckduckgo or another search engine that isn't scrubbed from all inconvenient truths.

[Anonymous No.17278037]

>>17277627

I've made some 120k in two years using crypto. It's risky but the returns are huge once you get the hang of it. No idea how you'd do that with something as relatively safe as stocks.

[Anonymous No.17278125]

>>17277822
That article is 11 days old

[Anonymous No.17278136]

Actually, when do we get futures for tuesday?

[Anonymous No.17278149]

>>17278037
>'ve made some 120k in two years using crypto. It's risky
then you are an extreme outlier. Most people lose $ in crypto (and trading stocks)

I keep about 2% of net worth in crypto and I am up (initial crypto investment of about 4k, they're worth 15k right now)...but I am a buy and hold. With crypto and stocks.

[Anonymous No.17278358]

>>17278149

Not really, buy and hold is the safest strategy of course. Swing trading is second. Margin trading is just degenerate gambling and that's where most people lose money. That and people who think "this asset has increased in value 9000%, surely it will keep going forever".

You should check out this project: https://orionprotocol.io/

It's a new type of decentralized exchange made by the guy behind Waves DEX. Waves had an ICO price of 19 cents. Orion is going to have a smaller marketcap but a much wider reach.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/waves/

[Credit Spread Officer No.17278405]

>>17278037
you make greater returns at a higher frequency in the options market. TSLA call options at the 980 strike went up 800,000% in 3 days. Your cuckcoins will never do the same.

[Anonymous No.17278431]

>>17278405

Sounds cool. What are the risks involved? I'm not familiar with any of these terms. You predict the price and get money for doing so?

[Credit Spread Officer No.17278501]

>>17278431
there was someone who got in at .01 per contract, so the risk is one dollar per .01 per contract. You could lose one dollar and make 8000.

you get higher gains in the options market the faster price moves

[Anonymous No.17278510]

>>17278405
>800,000% in 3 days

[Credit Spread Officer No.17278520]

>>17278501
and by price moving i mean the underlying

[Anonymous No.17278574]

>>17272499
>missed TSLA
>missed SPCE
>missed every biopharma pump&dump opportunity like ONTX and SAVA
fuck, is it too late to make serious gains? i've got 16K to spend, what stocks should i buy?

[Credit Spread Officer No.17278585]

>>17278574
BYND

they better be announcing their fucking earnings soon

[Anonymous No.17278593]

>>17273107
Rolling

[Anonymous No.17278606]

>>17278574
There will always be another opportunity, but you will most likely miss that, too

[Anonymous No.17278720]

>>17277641
Is it worth it to do a balance transfer on $8k

[Credit Spread Officer No.17278768]

yall... PLNT... high short interest and earnings yet to release... oof.

[Anonymous No.17278802]

>>17276483
Make this the next op image

[Anonymous No.17278847]

How the fuck do I do my taxes?

[Anonymous No.17278849]

>>17278431
>>17278431
the risk is the cost of the call/put itself. you buy $100 in options and lose, you are only out $100. if you think a stock will go up, you buy a call. down you buy a put. if the stock does the opposite of what you think, then you lose most(all) your money. call/put is done in blocks of 100 shares. so if it says .05 then the cost is $5 per call. pic related are calls i bought that have a $308 strike price that i bought at .05/call that are now worth .18/call. the closer to the strike price the more the call is worth. basically its like the lotto with slightly better odds. dont get carried away with it, you can literally watch your money vaporize in seconds.

[Anonymous No.17278868]

>>17278720
yes as long as you stop buying shit on credit and actually pay that shit off. you dont have to do all of it. just get off your fucking maximum fucking monkey.

[Anonymous No.17278907]

>>17278849

[Anonymous No.17278910]

>>17278849

Yeah that sounds like something you'd need more experience with. I'm mostly a crypto guy so I buy a coin and sell high, buy low. There's no real risk involved because I have the assets, which I don't have to sell at a loss unless I think we're going down further. That's pretty much it. Being able to lose your money without having anything to show for it sounds scary. Thanks for explaining this to a newbie! I have a lot of research to do.

[Anonymous No.17278958]

>>17278847
you dont. just wait til you make it then pay someone to do them for you.

[Anonymous No.17278961]

SPCE or am i too late?

[Anonymous No.17278997]

>>17278961
for the current swing? probably. just wait for it to decrease in price. its a meme company that wont be releasing an actual product for years.

[Anonymous No.17279002]

>>17278847
just for to HR block or turbotax's website. its literally just an easy to follow step by step process. fuck, you can even upload the fucking documents from your employer and trading company.
>anime
maybe you would know this already if you stopped watching cartoons.

[Anonymous No.17279043]

>>17278910
Buy a Jan 2021 SPY call for a $400 strike and hold till you get about 50% profit, then sell it.

[Anonymous No.17279107]

is having $40-50k in savings considered "a lot"? it seems like from what i keep hearing, having a lot of capital is the main thing keeping people from trading, but i literally just live with my parents and worked while saving the vast majority of my money for like 2 years. i also have no debt and carpool to work.

am i in the small minority of people who can pull this off or something? doesn't seem like very much money to me, and im just a technician who solders for a living.

[Anonymous No.17279168]

>>17272499
I FUCKING LOBE THAT ART! who made it?!?

[Anonymous No.17279169]

>>17278136
Monday at the usual time.

[Anonymous No.17279214]

>>17279107
40-50k is a good start if you're young.
It's good to have about that much so that you can make a downpayment on a house if you find a place that you want to buy.

most people cannot (or will not) pay off their debts and save up 50k, that is correct. But you shouldn't worry about those people anyway.

[Anonymous No.17279217]

>>17279107
im actually pretty close to your situation. i saved about 40k in 2 years from having a semi-decent job and barely any bills. its a good amount to start swing trading. after making 4k in 5 days on my first trade i realized how retarded jobs are. you just have to have the balls to invest a lot and be not-retarded enough to not lose it.

[Anonymous No.17279236]

>>17279214
>eBIN in id

[Anonymous No.17279274]

>>17279107

Yes and no. It's not a lot for people who aren't stupid. You've done the smart thing and you've kept your costs low. You've saved this money by not wasting it on frivolities and instead working hard. But it's not an amount you can live off for very long or do very much with.

Having said that, the vast majority of people live paycheck to paycheck. It doesn't matter how much they make, they just spend it all. Salary goes up? They buy a more expensive car which comes with higher maintenance costs. They are like a vessel which expands to capacity the more you pour in.

The true way to build wealth is to keep your costs low while increasing your income over time. You're well on your way there I'd say. Imagine what you can do in 10 years if you got this far in 2. Having said that, you must invest that money into something or it will be inflated away through money printing. I'm not saying this will work for you but I have a lot of money reserved for a project called orion protocol, which has a very promising system to reward early investors well.

[Anonymous No.17279277]

>>17279107
>am i in the small minority of people who can pull this off or something?
You're just in the minority of people who lives with their parents and thus you don't have the biggest living expense. It's savings easy mode, I know someone who is there late 20s, worked maybe one or two years in his entire life yet has managed to save more than 80% of his peers just living with his parents, taking advantage of government tax benefits and never buying anything.

[Anonymous No.17279287]

>>17279214
>ebin xd

[Anonymous No.17279291]

>>17278958
I recently started using an accountant for taxes as well. It is immensely satisfying to dump all on the documents at his feet and be done. Worth the money if your taxes are even slightly complex.

[Anonymous No.17279292]

>>17279107
>>17279277
I forgot my image.

[Anonymous No.17279295]

>>17279002
ugh rude

[Anonymous No.17279312]

Any high-risk, cheap, options plays someone wants to give me a heads up on? talking sub .10, tired of buying scratchies.

[Anonymous No.17279342]

>>17279217
i swing trade with half of my account and day trade with the other half. i like the hull moving average a lot, and i use the ATR to determine risk and where I scale out half of my position (usually on a 1:1 basis), at which point i move my stop loss up to break even and either it gets popped or my exit indicator tells me when to get out, usually based on momentum. swing trading i do more based on setups i've figured out, mostly to do with news catalysts which I like to buy into before and sell some time before the event even happens. been working out quite well for me, made about $10k so far in a couple of months.

[Anonymous No.17279348]

>>17279277
>>17279292

Yep, avoiding jewish tricks like rent while they are jacking up housing prices through mortgages is the way to go. Live with your parents or as cheap as possible and build that stack.

[Anonymous No.17279352]

Gilead

[Anonymous No.17279422]

>>17279274
>you must invest that money into something or it will be inflated away through money printing

im working and trading in order to build what i've already got. seems like the best and fastest way to build wealth in my experience so far. once it grows large enough i plan on expanding into more reliably consistent and less risky assets like real estate, but i can't do that until i've built up enough capital first.

i figure you have to do the riskier and harder stuff like trading first to be able to build up a small amount of wealth into a medium amount, that's the hard part. then once you've got enough you can invest in larger assets which give passive income more easily than the stock market, but require a much larger up-front capital cost, like in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. but once you have those you can eventually live off the returns without having to "gamble" so much (although i don't really consider trading algorithmically to be gambling, but more like a skill-based game with a certain degree of RNG involved but not an insane amount).

[Anonymous No.17279458]

>>17279107
Depends on your age, 40-50k is a good amount if you're under 28. No joke, a majority of people are in heavy debt and has a really small amount saved in their 20s. I basically did the same thing you did when I was younger.. I worked at a warehouse for 6 years (started when I was 20), lived at home, saved literally everything except $300 for rent just to help out, took my bicycle to work, barely left my house, barely bought new things, no debt to pay off, etc etc. So when I was 26 I had roughly 75k saved which shocked my friends and even my mom.
I invested most of the money except a few grand for back-up purposes and grew it even more with ease because of the bull market, which most people in their 20s-30s doesn't do either which puts them behind us for years if not decades.

[Anonymous No.17279472]

>bears wrong for 10 consecutive years
>secular bull breakout from consolidation in 2013
>still wrong about impact of dead chinese on stock market and economy
>declare “we wuz right” if the stock market doesn’t make an all time high for one week

hmmm.

[Anonymous No.17279473]

>>17279352
what about it? they cure nCoV yet?

[Anonymous No.17279475]

>>17279342
my strategy is basically doing fewer trades, just being more confident in the ones i pick and putting a lot in. i like swing trading volatile stocks that i would not mind longing in the first place in case the price goes down. im pretty patient so i dont realize a lot of losses.

[Anonymous No.17279500]

>>17279348
>>17279292
Daily reminder. The American Middle 50-60s class was a deviation from the norm never seen before. Able to be a milkman afford a house and family of four while the wife stayed at home.

We are now returning to the mean, living within family estate and inheriting it. Take care of your parents and avoid rent/loans

[Anonymous No.17279511]

bros how does the average person save money? Do they use ira/401ks? do they just put it in their bank and not do anything with it?? do they just hope they will get a good paying job in the future and for now live paycheck to paycheck????????

Im in the process of joining the military and really wondering what i will do with money... ira's and all that other bullcrap that needs to have you waiting until 59yo seems like such a scam...... im thinking about yoloing savings into 50% blue chip and 50% small cap dividend stocks only and maybe a few normal stocks..

[Anonymous No.17279513]

>>17277120
Only sold because it literally hit my sellpoint so fast I didn't think to raise it higher

[Anonymous No.17279547]

>>17279472

It depends on how you look at it. Central banks have had to intervene in the stock market. They are now the primary stock buyers. Up through manipulation and printing, not through natural growth.

[Anonymous No.17279573]

>>17279511
Doing literally any kind of stocks/investment is better than what 90% of people do. My parent's plan is "I'll work till I drop and hopefully you guys will take care of me, because I never thought about this stuff at your age."

[Anonymous No.17279575]

>>17279511

>do they just put it in their bank and not do anything with it

They watch it die, redecorate the house and go on more vacations if they have "too much" money in the bank, yes.

[Anonymous No.17279594]

>>17279475
Essentially you gamble and if it doesn't work out you convince yourself you wanted to buy and hold those bags in the first place. Not the worst strategy I guess.

[Anonymous No.17279595]

>>17279511
>bros how does the average person save money?
Most people don't save money very well.
The bare minimum that you should have is a savings account and a retirement account (401k or other).
If you have other investment accounts on top of your long-term tax-advantaged retirement account, then that's even better.

[Anonymous No.17279608]

>>17279458
im 30. i really wish i knew about the stock market earlier in life, i've only been doing this for around 7 months now but once i started i became obsessed with any and all analysis of the market and so i've progressed extremely fast in that time. im pretty much just grinding out wins at this point, letting the probabilities play out over the long term. trading is deceptively simple, i feel like the main thing that holds people back is the fear of losing money. i know even for me, that was a really difficult mental hurdle to overcome (thanks mark douglass), which i only really did thanks to doing an absurd amount of backtesting and paper trading, and eventually trading with small amounts of real money until i grew the confidence to slowly but surely increase my position sizes.

now it just feels like a matter of time, really. just gotta keep grinding out wins which outweigh the losses in the long run. it took a lot of work and im smart, so im not surprised most people can't handle it.

[Anonymous No.17279612]

>>17278997
I thought they were having their first flight in the summer?

[Anonymous No.17279619]

how we feeling bout' it?

1/2

[Anonymous No.17279632]

>>17275788
Great :)

[Anonymous No.17279638]

>>17279619
ignore my free stock gains im up 5% this month

[Anonymous No.17279639]

>>17279619
>1 share
>2 shares
>4 shares
>2 shares
>that much diversification

Never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.17279689]

>>17279511
Normalfags are terrible with money, they generally only start investing after like 40, when they realize they've missed the boat.
No idea what they do with the money in the mean time, but I think they probably waste it on consumer products and expensive meals.
For you, make sure you always have some money liquid, but besides that, placing your money into some low volatility dividend stocks really isn't that risky.
There's some value to IRA's and pensions, but I don't plan on living past 50, so it's of no use to me anyways.

[Anonymous No.17279698]

>>17279639

[Anonymous No.17279762]

Who /STAN/ here?

Snapchat
Twitter
AMD
Nvidia

[Anonymous No.17279764]

>>17279475
hey as long as you're making money that's all that matters really. i put a lot of math into figuring out my methods, i need hard stops because otherwise the math won't work out without a predetermined risk on each trade. the scaling out is mostly to act as insurance against trends that fail too quickly, but i still get to keep skin in the game in case i get into a really nice, big move. it's like a combination of scalping and trend trading, in a way. scalp with half then ride out the momentum on the other half.

i've been looking into this squeeze setup a lot recently, i haven't backtested it extensively though but im curious about eventually looking into how effective it is. i've always liked setups that logically make sense (i.e. looking for breakouts from areas of tight consolidation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-f-aSOJLgc

my swing trades are usually much more fundamentals-based, though. i save the technicals for intraday stuff.

[Anonymous No.17279790]

[Anonymous No.17279800]

>>17272499
is SPCE mooning like TSLA? sell or hold

[Anonymous No.17279831]

>>17279594
yes

[Anonymous No.17279867]

>>17279800

I have 60 shares, got in a little below 17 during the coronavirus dip. I'm probably not going to do anything. Might even buy calls and see if the price spikes a little higher. I don't think it's done rising, but I also think the correction is going to happen in less than two weeks. Even after Tesla's correction the price is still hovering around 800, and I expect SPCE will "crash" and then stabilize around 25.

[Anonymous No.17279893]

>>17279762
I feel like Snapchat is going to be the vine, coming from a user, as soon as they try to increase their profitability by not letting anyone skip ads or adding them to regular snaps, something new will come out and replace it.

[Anonymous No.17279955]

>>17279619
>$2 wagers on Coca Cola rising 9% above all time highs in the next month
I actually like that bet

>>17279511
Roth IRAs are a solid way of saving money you won’t need until retirement, and making tax free gains while collecting tax free dividends. You’re able to withdraw the seed money early, but will pay a penalty if you need to withdraw profits you’ve made in the IRA.

It’s $6000 per year to set aside and keep buying stocks. $500 per month.

I don’t know what you make and what you spend but it’s a good hedge against an early death. If you accidentally live in to your 60’s you might be glad you invested that money and let your gains compound tax-free.

https://www.schwab.com/ira/roth-ira/withdrawal-rules

[Anonymous No.17279961]

>>17279619
lol

[Anonymous No.17279970]

>>17279955
>I actually like that bet
fun rite?
>>17279961
>one post by this id

[Anonymous No.17280000]

>>17279800
>>17279867
Take profit. All of these TSLA comparisons are so baseless, TSLA was consolidating for six long years before breaking out and it's supported by very good fundamentals showing profitability and rapid growth. SPCE on the other hand is pure speculation being propped up by FOMO.

[Anonymous No.17280084]

where can I find some good cheapies? what filters do you guys use?

[Anonymous No.17280088]

>>17279970
Sorry do I need more than one post to laugh at your bullshit portfolio?

[Anonymous No.17280110]

What's everybody think of TERP?

[Anonymous No.17280116]

>>17280088
yes that's what I was implying

[Anonymous No.17280140]

>>17279473
China is pushing tcm solutions and announced social.media.should be positive

Think they will announce pessi mism on gilead?

Its gonna get.pumped

[Anonymous No.17280150]

>>17280110
windmills are gay and that's a fact,

[Anonymous No.17280161]

>>17276467
Cute. CUTE!

[Anonymous No.17280169]

>>17280150
they may be gay but will they make money

[Anonymous No.17280220]

>>17280169
short term maybe? I just don't see wind or solar power going anywhere without new battery tech. Might as well just invest in battery companies who will sell that tech IMO. Nuclear power is my bet.

[Anonymous No.17280278]

>>17280169
>>17280220
FE
NEE
EXC
AEE

[Anonymous No.17280287]

>>17280088

He probably comes from communities like r*dd*t where it's customary to call out posters with a low post count when you lose an argument to them.

>>17280000

Checked, but I disagree that Tesla share prices aren't similarly driven by speculation and FOMO. Most of the justification is on the basis of lofty statements about Tesla revolutionizing the automobile industry and Elon's star power. Tesla has pretty strong fundamentals and a unique competitive edge but not to the point that their shares deserved to double in a month and a half. Virgin Galactic isn't a literally who company that came out of left field, it's part of an established brand with a penchant for success in other industries. Branson and Musk are similarly brazen, messianic industry moguls. The confidence in both companies is founded on a radical vision of the future. They're very comparable.

[Anonymous No.17280327]

>>17273107
Fug

[Anonymous No.17280333]

>>17280287
>it's customary to call out posters with a low post count when you lose an argument to them.
didn't know that, but you obviously need to go back since you do. Also, how is "lol" and argument, there is some smol brain posting going on here.

[Anonymous No.17280356]

>>17280220
For energy, the play right now is investing in utilities. Inflation is steadily increasing - utilities are typically highly leveraged in debt, and inflation mitigates debt obligations. Energy input costs are at record lows - utilities have very thin margins so a small, consistent decrease in input is a significant increase in revenue for them. Interest rates are likely to remain low, which helps them finance more debt and mitigates their variable debt.
Southern Company (SO), blue chip utility, is up 48% over 12 months.
NEE, which I'm invested in is up 55% over 12 months and 15% YTD.
If you want exposure to nuclear, look into companies are developing or producing SMR (small modular reactors). Find one that has both civilian and military applications. Utility-type SMRs are at least 2 decades away from feasibility. Avoid large-scale reactors like the plague, they've consistently proven to be unprofitable due to regulations.

[Anonymous No.17280383]

>login in to Schwab
>see huge gain, think "oh shit did one of my meme stocks make it?"
>oh right, I made a deposit a few days ago
fuckin a Schwab update your shit already. Transferring my own money from one account to another does not count as a gain

[Anonymous No.17280391]

>>17280383

[Anonymous No.17280493]

>>17279955
>>17279689

hmmmmm ok i will invest a minimal amount into an IRA, but only because it will function as bonus money when i reach that age. didnt know about the withdrawal rule.

[Anonymous No.17280544]

I got 3 $35 calls expiring Jan of 2021 and Im up $1200 should I take profit

[Anonymous No.17280554]

>>17280287
I don't want to spend hours debating SPCE only to have to fall on deaf ears, but look at this from a risk reward perspective. What is your price target? $30-35 dollars a share? A correction can have it lose ten dollars in just a few days. Even if it's like TSLA, and it's not, it would be like holding TSLA at $950, waiting for it to reach $1000 and saying it doesn't matter if it dips to $700 because of the long term outlook. You're risking a 30% drop for a 15% price increase. It's poor money management.

[Anonymous No.17280557]

>>17274208
unless you are the one selling them.

>covered calls are your friend

[Anonymous No.17280564]

>>17280544
For spce of course

[Anonymous No.17280588]

>>17280493
You can also withdraw some of your GAINS tax-free to buy your first home or pay for college costs for you, your spouse, or your children. Not sure if the GI bill benefits apply to your wife and kids educations, but it’s something to keep in mind.

I would not be surprised if more loopholes are added over time to cover other expenses like medical costs, as many (like trump) want to encourage Americans to buy stocks. And many others want to encourage young people to save and invest for their retirements so they’re not completely dependent on govt benefits in their old age (fucking boomers)

[Anonymous No.17280674]

>>17280278
looks pretty good, decent yield as well.
except for NEE maybe, lower yield, you'd be buying at the top. been increasing a lot in value lately so if someone were to buy now it might dip soon. seems to have been increasing since the 80s though, except in 2008, which is kinda crazy

[Anonymous No.17280721]

>>17280554
it will never cease to amaze me how much more important risk management and psychology are than any given strategy/"edge". it's so fucking difficult to get across to people that you can't win all the time, but it isn't about winning all the time, it is about being profitable in the long run. people constantly fuck themselves because they will hold on to a losing trade forever because they simply can't stand the thought of losing money on a trade, and end up losing way way more than they should have.

you could literally flip a coin to decide whether to go long or short on a stock, and as long as your risk management and discipline are on-point, you will be profitable in the long run. that is one of the most eye-opening things i've ever learned about this business, and near-impossible to get through the heads of most people. like, it's actually kind of crazy how most people just flat-out cannot accept losing and let it get worse and worse. they just can't mentally handle that concept and it's ultimately why some >90% of people fail in the stock market. it's crazy because it's so goddamn simple but for some reason it is so incredibly hard to actually make people understand the concept and follow it fully. human psychology is truly fascinating sometimes though. we would rather be given $50 instead of given $100 and have $50 taken away, even though you end up with the same amount in the end of both scenarios.

[Anonymous No.17280756]

>>17279043
I’m a noob. Is a $400 call the same as the strike price?

[Anonymous No.17280799]

>>17280756
yes, that '$400' refers to the strike price

[Credit Spread Officer No.17280848]

>>17280756
dont' listen to that guy, get out at 10% to 25% profit when buying premium.

>>17280799
listen to this guy tho

[Anonymous No.17280860]

>>17280799
Ty
>>17280848
Fuck off tripfag

[Anonymous No.17280861]

>>17280383

[Anonymous No.17280875]

>>17278405
This is correct but much harder to do

[Anonymous No.17280899]

how are my fellow SnapChads doing this Sunday afternoon?

[Anonymous No.17280918]

>>17280899
hey what's the difference between snapchat and just sending text messages with pictures in them ?

[Credit Spread Officer No.17280920]

>>17280860

[Credit Spread Officer No.17280939]

>>17280918
compression quality i believe

[Anonymous No.17280995]

>>17280721
I completely agree but I don't have anything to add. Speaking of weird market/human psychology, I'm curious as to what you think of technical analysis and its usefulness.

[Anonymous No.17281004]

>>17280918
Snapchat deletes the messages after viewing, after 24 hours or never, also the memories feature is pretty cool. One of the main appeals to apps like snapchat and facebook messenger is that it is uniform when texting, if you have a different brand of phone than the recipient or vice versa things can get funky and some of the functions are lost. That being said I don't trust SNAP with my money, I don't think they will ever make a profit unless the do some really innovative shit, people are getting over filters already.

[Anonymous No.17281010]

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>>17281001
>>17281001
>>17281001

[Anonymous No.17281018]

>>17280554
>>17280721

This conversation isn't really about the relative risk/reward of investing in Virgin Galactic, it's about similarities between investor confidence in VG and Tesla. VG's shares stand to go up considerably more than 15% even if they realize a fraction of their ambitions, which isn't obscenely improbable.

Taking the stance that stocks are purely stochastic and they can either flip one way or the other with a 50/50 chance and you might as well just stick with stocks that have more potential upside than downside is a conservative approach that might work in theory, but really only describes things from a technically analytical perspective. You have to take fundamentals into account, and you also have to take social psychology into account. Personally, I think stocks are driven by social psychology first and fundamentals second. Stay observant of trends, and recognize when you've already missed the boat. FOMO is what loses you money, not improper risk/reward assessment.

[Anonymous No.17281055]

>>17281010
ur 30 posts early

>>17281004
>>17280939
how do they make money
I mean texting people words and images and video is pretty much already free right? who is paying these people for a premium texting service?
(I'm not a big cellular phone user, even though I have two...)

[Anonymous No.17281075]

>>17281055
Better early than too late

[Anonymous No.17281124]

>>17280995
>I'm curious as to what you think of technical analysis and its usefulness.

It's easier for me to just post this and have you watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhKJ9P3agRc

[Anonymous No.17281133]

>>17273797
Reminder:

If you're calling Warren Buffett a boomer, you are unaware of how cancerous the boomers are.

The boomers were born in the boom time when the US had kicked ass in WW2, and was more optimistic than ever.

Buffett is a member of the Silent Generation, born in 1930. Too young to fight in the war, but grew up during those uncertain times.

>>17281075
Not when making new threads just to pimp your twinky faggot vegetarian loser. You weren't even in the thread to talk about stocks.

[Anonymous No.17281217]

>>17281018
i was mostly referring to the last 2 sentences of your post. logically, having a 2:1 risk:reward provides a "negative expectancy" and means you have to win twice just to break even with a single loss. yet at the same time, people irrationally think "oh if i just hold this and i don't sell then i don't have to REALLY lose money", even though ultimately this causes them to lose more in the end. they don't think about they odds, they just think about how bad it feels to lose money and how they dont' want to feel bad. they're emotional.

it's not really about that specific stock, i was just using that as a springboard to talk about why psychology is so important in trading and is one of the major pitfalls which causes most people to lose money in the long run while trading. in short, you're supposed to "cut your losers short and let your winners run", but what most people do because they're emotional is the opposite: they hold on to losers for way too long and they cut their winners short and don't make as much on the winners as they should have.

[Anonymous No.17281309]

>>17281018
The investor confidence in TSLA was built on real and superior products that were so far ahead of their completion that it turned thousands of Tesla vehicle owners into shareholders with an unshakeable faith in the company. The investor confidence in SPCE is based on WSB pumping the hell out of it in the last few weeks and relatively small minority of shareholders who have a very poor understanding of spaceflight, have regret about missing out on TSLA and think that SPCE is going to be the Tesla of space but that already exists, it's SpaceX and they have the majority of the commercial market, of which satellite launches alone are 70%. VG doesn't have a first mover advantage, SpaceX and Blue Origin especially have already built out their space tourism framework. We already have a good historical comparison here, airplanes. Most people had never ventured into the air, but air tourism flights have always been a small market. Destination travel is so much more important, and only companies that can get into orbit will be able to pull that off. What VG selling is like a trip to go look at a beach from afar, the other companies are selling a beach vacation. That's the difference.
>>17281124
I will, thanks.

[Credit Spread Officer No.17281397]

>>17281055
probably selling data

[Anonymous No.17281404]

>>17280169

No, they don't. They require billions in subsidies, they break down all the time, they drive anyone who lives near them insane with their noise and moving shadows. These would not exist if not for stupid leftist policy. These things kill insects and birds in stupid large numbers. They require HUGE neodymium magnets and other components that cause real pollution.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191120-the-problem-of-indias-man-eating-tigers

[Anonymous No.17281440]

>>17281217
>in short, you're supposed to "cut your losers short and let your winners run", but what most people do because they're emotional is the opposite: they hold on to losers for way too long and they cut their winners short and don't make as much on the winners as they should have.
Yep. I had to jump that hurdle as well. For me, the solution was to put a stop loss on immediately upon entry. That initial stop loss is law and cannot be moved lower. So either the trade is a winner and stop never gets touched, or it's a loser and i take the pre determined loss i was willing to allow upon entry. Also use trailing stops but i tend to set those pretty loose and rely more on TA to generate a sell signal. Usually i wind up selling a bounce after initial sell off.

[Anonymous No.17281811]

>>17281404
>the-problem-of-indias-man-eating-tigers
This is NOT about windmills, magnets, pollution, or any such thing.
I'm VERY disappointed in you.

You'd really have a couple more indians than a dozen more tigers?

[Anonymous No.17281945]

>>17281811
tigers are cool
they're like house cats, but 10x bigger

[Anonymous No.17282053]

What are your thoughts for this week?
I think tuesday may actually be quite a green day

[Anonymous No.17282129]

>>17281945
Behaviour is the same regardless of cat size. Common house cat would be just as dangerous as a tiger or lion if same size.

[Anonymous No.17282147]

>>17282053
I gotta green feel. Some of that Friday selling was silly.

[Anonymous No.17282156]

>>17282053
not sure, maybe the general crab continues
I'm going to be working a lot all this week and next week so I won't have as much time for STOCKS

>>17282129
yeah it's true
but most tigers aren't man eaters, they'd prefer to eat other things.

[Anonymous No.17282324]

>>17272694
>same syntax
retard I made the fcel picture and the only words on it were buy fcel lmao
it ran up nearly a whole dollar since I mentioned it that day, could have taken easy profits but /biz/ is too greedy
it was a literal "buy the rumor, sell the news"

[Anonymous No.17282326]

Posting in a LIVING thread.
Fuck new OP for coming in just to draw in offtopic shitposters. Couldn't even wait for the old thread to die before ruining the new thread.

>>17282129
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
>>17282147
Based busty bimbo

BULLISH
Buying monday. I'm sick of holding all this TRASH

[Anonymous No.17282356]

Do stocks at least rise with the inflation? If the Dollar inflated by 30%, would stocks rise by 30% too?

[Anonymous No.17282415]

>>17282326
I tried to buy tapioca at my store so that I could make some homemade tapioca pudding but they didn't have any :(

>>17282356
they should
but it depends on the individual stock; some do better or worse with inflation than others.
it also depends on the rate of the inflation; if that 30% of inflation happens in one year, people might take their dollars and buy foreign stocks, in a country with a more stable currency.

so the answer is "sort of, but it depends". inflation is one of those concepts that has some simple interactions, and also very complex interactions with everything. even for a single currency, there isn't just one inflation. even for abstracted high-level ideas about inflation, the inflation that makes milk and bread cost more isn't the exact same as the inflation that effects prices of equities and real estate, because eventually there are distinct monetary "realms"

[Anonymous No.17282485]

>>17282324
>same syntax
that wasn't me faggot. it's nice to know you're the same guy

you were one of those greedy faggots too, it's nice that you at least admitted it before. You were scamming anons and other stocktwits incels faggots.

So you've moved on from stupid wild claims about FCEL to stupid wild claims about SDGR?

[Anonymous No.17282579]

>>17282326
>Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
Not at all. Cats are neat regardless of size. A house cat sized lion would be the best.

[Anonymous No.17282600]

>>17282415
Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.17282691]

>>17282485
>>17282324
I think the FCEL guy did nothing wrong. Same with the ONTX guy.
The promised a pump and we got one. If you buy the top or refuse to sell that is your own fault.

I made decent money with both memes and sold at a nice profit. Thanks to both.

[Anonymous No.17282798]

>>17282579
A lion-sized housecat with all the traits bred into housecats would be pretty cool too. Fun giant laser pointer games!

>>17282691
The FCEL guy was a shill looking to scam people, I don't approve. He deliberately misled people.

The ONTX "guy" is the same AMRN guy, and is just too simple to recognize the pattern. I hope it plays out well for all of them, but I don't FOMO into that shit.

Buy MRK, KO, PEP, REGN, LMT, MA, TSN, ABBV, and you might make it.

I'd rather buy shit that isn't pump and dump, but things you can keep buying and DRiPing on the way up if you want, because they're actually good companies.

[Anonymous No.17282829]

Imagine if we had just one dedicated janny to ban the shills and inane tripfags. Nobody wants to hear someone rattling off the same penny stock ticker every thread for no reason

[Anonymous No.17282840]

>>17282798
>looking to scam
take your meds you retarded schizo your fault for not knowing how to trade the news

[Anonymous No.17282853]

>>17282840
fuck off shill
I don't need to trade the news in your penny stocks because I don't trade them at all.

[Anonymous No.17282859]

>>17282798
have fun making fuck all for money on your blue chip stocks while we make gains off penny stocks

[Anonymous No.17283016]

>>17282859
if they were good plays you wouldn't need to photoshop bullshit together to trick dumb money into FOMOing in, them blaming them for "being too greedy" and buying the top.

fuck off shill

[Anonymous No.17283078]

>>17282798
>The FCEL guy was a shill looking to scam people, I don't approve. He deliberately misled people.
Really? I thought he was just overly enthusiastic. He was still writing "I am holding FCEL!" in threads three days later.
>I hope it plays out well for all of them, but I don't FOMO into that shit.
I never really get too involved. I just invest a really small amount for the fun. I never lost money thanks to Stop Losses.

>Buy MRK, KO, PEP, REGN, LMT, MA, TSN, ABBV, and you might make it.
I completely agree.
V, MA, AMZN, MSFT, NVDA, KO, PEP Leaps are my money printers
>I'd rather buy shit that isn't pump and dump, but things you can keep buying and DRiPing on the way up if you want, because they're actually good companies.
Pretty much. But these pennyshits are like betting a fiver on soccer games. You do not bet to win or lose, you bet to enjoy the ride with a little stake in it.
Its stupid, but its kind of fun

[Anonymous No.17283359]

>>17282798
>buying actually good companies
>isn't pump and dump
>actually has name recognition
>actually has revenue

WOOOAAAH WHAT A CONCEPT!

[Anonymous No.17283508]

>>17282129
except for, you know, domesticated behavior (tame isn't domesticated)

there's probably other things as well, like length of teeth or strength of jaw. even when scaled up.

[Anonymous No.17283515]

>>17283016
Literally nothing was photo shopped keep seething tranny those were all actual articles and speculation

[Anonymous No.17283761]

>>17273560
Obvious bag holding shill is obvious

We'll close the phosphorus cycle in our lifetimes (needs must). PET tech is garbage that does nothing to reclaim excess environmental P and therefore will never be mass adopted