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"no memestocks for a whole week!" edition

popular brokers:
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basic stock market terminology:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

Real-time market news:
https://thefly.com/index.php

Live Bloomberg stream:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

Free charting tools:
http://www.tradingview.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.finscreener.com/

Stock screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener

Pre-Market Data and Live data:
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https://finance.yahoo.com/

Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

Pump and Dump Advertising:
https://stocktwits.com

Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

Basic rundown on lean hogs:
http://www.theoptionsguide.com/lean-hogs-futures-buying.aspx

List of hedge fund holdings:
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>> No.17247139
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Some idiots really tried to tell me SPCE isn't going to be worth $40B because of weak fundamentals, kek

>> No.17247152

I wonder if even more SNSS 13Gs will come after hours.

>> No.17247154
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>>17247139
it mustve been an anon tranny

>> No.17247156

>>17247110
Why is KO a meme stock?

>> No.17247157

>>17247110
Anyone doing options on SPCE? I got shares since I was worried about the exact date for the flights to resume and didint want my calls expiring before it.

>> No.17247168
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tripfags kys

>> No.17247169

>>17247152
I wonder if you'll ever stop fucking eating, you obese twat.

>> No.17247177
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GALT, LCI, and SAVA. Buy them and profit before all of civilization collapses just to know you could have made it.

>> No.17247185

>>17247085
Depends entirely on the bull run and the companies you pick
I just made +600% in one night thanks to AMZNs earnings and some +100% thanks to MSFT these last weeks.
If you had good calls on SPCE you would have gotten +1000% today probably, depending on the IV, which I dont know right now.

If you have to ask youre better off at the casino though

>> No.17247220

>>17247185
Noob question

What does IV mean

>> No.17247252

>>17247177
>meme stock trifecta
Yeah

Also buy BGFV HMNY and dryships and you’ll definitely make it. And by make it, I mean kill yourself.

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>>17247139
We’re 22% closer to /makingit/

>> No.17247255

any of you trade on technicals?

>> No.17247264

>>17247220
it's the implied volatility

>> No.17247280

>was going to buy SPCE on Tuesday
>since I hadn't seen people meming it since December I thought it was dead
>today
I'm actually upset at myself.

>> No.17247301

>>17247264
Thanks

>> No.17247323

>>17247280
don't worry, keep an eye on it there will probably be a pullback to 23 or so at some point and you can buy then. Just don't FOMO in at 27+

>> No.17247324

>>17247301
You are welcome.

>> No.17247328

>>17247220
Its the implied volatility

In easy terms:
Imagine buying OTM options on a stock that has been flat for a month. The options would be cheaper, since the stock does not move much and its not expected to reach the strike price.

Now imagine a company like SPCE. Either the price will go to 15 or 50. Its been up and down 10% in an hour and huge movements are expected. So the price for buying the option will increase.

Sometimes people wake up to their stock gaining 5%, but their Calls staying at the same price because volatility increased so much. After some time the stock will gain back stability usually and the volatility decreases again.

>> No.17247364

>>17247280
>since I hadn't seen people meming it since December I thought it was dead
Dude we were all shitposting about it since Monday. Go back and look at the threads for this week.

>> No.17247375

FULL DISCLAIMER: I am a new and inexperienced trader. DO NOT do any of the things I do under any circumstances. Eloquence, memelines, and posting charts doesn't mean shit.

>>17247255
yeah, if by that you mean TA, but only a very rudimentary kind

>> No.17247390

>>17247110
SPCE is catching the eye of a bunch of buyers lately. Space Tourism/Hypersonic Travel/Quasispace Experiments. It's speculative as Hell but has the hype machine behind it. I got 1,000 shares around $11 US. $28.68 at close today and they haven't even done their first commercial flight yet (supposed to happen later this year.)

>> No.17247400

>>17247177
>GALT
I bet you were shilling this crap 2 years ago. I’m down a couple hundred because of you. Fuck you.

>> No.17247427
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Where my OGI Chads at?

>> No.17247428
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>>17247400
>>17247177
Please sir buy more galtcoin. Do the needful. They have the technology of Vishnu on their side sir. You buy.

Please mr ulhein sir send me more money to promote your stockcoin.

>> No.17247440

>>17247139
It's got the Hype Machine factor plus what I mentioned in an above post. I'm holding for at least a year on my small play, barring an absurd price jump AND high volatility. The real hidden gem in the business model is if hypersonic travel becomes a high demand product.

>> No.17247454

>>17247427
I sold before the pump
No regrets. The market is just too poisoned.

>> No.17247455

>>17247400
>I’m down a couple hundred because of you
>because of you
You should fucking kill yourself

>> No.17247461
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>>17247400
Nope. But even a two year old buy will profit heavily. Just hold it and forget about those shares for a while.

Uihlein signaled today he's ready for the moon mission. Average down. Put your life savings into it.

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THREADLY REMINDER THAT DIVIDENDS ARE YOUR FREN

>> No.17247476

>>17247461
>Uihlein signaled today he's ready for the moon mission
Can I have a source for this?

>> No.17247503

>>17247476
https://s.flashalert.me/KoRLH7

Filing link. If you don't trust the link then its on stocktwits GALT board

>> No.17247505

>>17247468
You need so much money to collect any worthwhile funds from dividends

>> No.17247508

>>17247428
so pendy was actually a paid tranny shill?

>> No.17247510

>>17247476
You realize the US courts have determined that GALT is allowed to pay shills to promote its stock to ill-informed retail “investors”?

>> No.17247530

>>17247510
Yes, I know and yes you suck ass.

>> No.17247547

>>17247390
If they can reliably get people from NYC to Tokyo in 3 hours then the global elite are gonna go for it

>> No.17247559

>>17247505
I’m so sick of this argument.

The object isn’t to COLLECT dividends for funds, unless you’re retired and already have a lot of money.

The object is to REINVEST dividends so they compound. Every dividend reinvested buys more future dividends.

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>>17247505
going to make about $22K off of my $500K portfolio. That's $22K reinvested that I didn't have to work for. That $22K makes me about $770 extra in passive income the next year, which itself will generate another $26 of passive income. Compounding on compounding on compounding to where my money is making money on its money's money

it takes time to get a snowball to start rolling but once it does, boy does it create wealth

>> No.17247576

>>17247390
>I got 1,000 shares around $11 US. $28.68 at close today and they haven't even done their first commercial flight yet (supposed to happen later this year.)
Plenty of room still on this one. Once flights start back up and Branson returns back alive after his flight it will really start to go.

>> No.17247596

What if companies reinvested dividends in themselves instead of paying out the dividend? Oh wait most companies worth buying do that

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six flags more flags more fun

>> No.17247613

>>17247505
Compound interest from reinvestment gets you places.

Also

Income ETNs

>> No.17247626

>>17247508
Extremely likely but so is the possibility that he’s mentally ill and delusional and can’t admit to himself when he’s wrong.

>>17247530
Been many years since I’ve eaten ass. She was a damn good girl and tasted of lavender and other girly fragrances.

Are you actually just a plant? Just pretending to be curious about the company so they can pretend they have a reason to shill harder?

Fuck off.

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>>17247607
Is it time for FUN to rise again? I haven't had any since 2018, what makes you say that :O

>> No.17247669
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What stock should l buy?

>> No.17247670
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SPCE about to break down the door to $30, what a day

>> No.17247672

>>17247400
Oh, but you are doing it wrong! Everyone serious in galt should be down tens of thousands by now

>> No.17247673

>>17247626
>Been many years since I’
Are you trying to brag?
This is fucking disgusting

>> No.17247681

>>17247669
SNSS
Always SNSS

>> No.17247700
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>>17247440
>The real hidden gem in the business model is if hypersonic travel becomes a high demand product.

How is that different from the Concorde?

>> No.17247711

>>17247669
KO, it’s an Olympics Year so expect it to continue to go up until the summer

>> No.17247721

>>17247700
because SPCE uses planes which fly higher altitude theres no sonic boom

>> No.17247723

>>17247650
FUN and SIX, everyone is taking their sweetheart to the ferris wheel today

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What a great week. +20% or so.
See you all on tuesday. Lets pray for good old AMZN, BABA and AMAT.
Byebye

>> No.17247763

>>17247721
So? Where are the advantages compared to a Concorde? Does it have to withstand less force when it breaks the sound barrier?

>> No.17247771
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>>17247559
This.

What the fuck are you even doing if you're looking to live off of dividends before you're old? The absolute state of NEETs

>> No.17247774

>>17247711
Olympics are going to be cancelled due to Corona virus concerns.

>> No.17247796

Check em

>> No.17247808

>>17247774
If they didn’t cancel for Zika at the Rio Olympics then they aren’t cancelling for anything

>> No.17247812

>>17247672
Should I buy GALT? What is on the horizon?

>> No.17247823
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>>17246867
Happy birthday aquaribro! Give your mom my warmest wishes.

Mediocre day to cap off an acceptable week. If I do 1% a week instead of 1% a day, think I can still make it?

>>17247650
>>17247723
Nuuuuuuu FUN nuuuuuuuuuuuu
:^)

>> No.17247824

are there any stocks you guys are morally opposed to holding

I won't hold anything Chinese, but that's more out of not wanting to see them win than morality

>> No.17247832

>>17247763
theres no sonic boom at higher altitude so it can go faster and have to withstand less pressure on the aircraft itself, i believe they said possibility of mach 5

>> No.17247848

>>17247832
dont quote me on this, just what i heard listening to Chamath speak about it

>> No.17247863

>>17247808
What a great idea, lets bring people from all over the world to ground one of the corona outbreak, and then send them back all over the world after they've been infected.

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>>17247110
based op
>>17247440
this guy gets it, unironically concord 2.0. i'm not selling my $35 01/22 calls until they make me a millionaire or expire worthless

>> No.17247877
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Am I doing okay for a newbie?

>> No.17247895

>>17247877
yeah its not bad. now put in some real money.

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>>17247774
The IOC is trying to save face by insisting that they're still on. It's going to be hilarious when white tourists or members of the newly formed Chinese middle and upper classes fail to show up. I bet they won't be able to get the Japanese to show up even if they pay them.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/feb/14/ioc-insists-tokyo-olympics-will-go-ahead-despite-coronavirus

International committees filled with globalist cucks give me a hardy laugh.

>> No.17247906

>>17247824
AMD. I bought one of their graphics cards once and it was trash.

>> No.17247914

>>17247824
Nothing
Pecunia non olet

>> No.17247916
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>>17247824
Absolutely not. I'd hold tobacco if it weren't so unprofitable.

>> No.17247917

>>17247824
Not at all. But in the future if I get the chance to re-do everything I might put some thought into it, but for that to happen I need a fat correction.

>> No.17247961

>>17247832
>mach 5

Now that's something. I wonder about the cost, though, as Concorde flights were already expensive as shit.

Guess I'll look further into this.

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see disc: >>17247375

>>17247863
that is a great idea

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>>17247875
My call order at the end of trading today failed to get filled. If it moons going into Tuesday's open, I might put someone or something through a wall.

>> No.17247987
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Am I doing good

>> No.17247993

>>17247916
>tobacco
Most 1st world counties are quitting however 3rd and 2nd world counties are starting to light up.

>> No.17247998

>>17247812
Trial start in a month or two might net 50% from here at worst, or a possible buyout at 10-15x. If they go alone for reasons, then they will become a nice mid pharma in 5 or so years. In the background their lead researcher is diligently preparing patents and oral galectin inhibitors. It's a whole new avenue in the drug industry, and is trading for next to nothing.

>> No.17248003

>>17247961
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/08/boeing-20-million-stake-in-virgin-galactic-with-vision-of-hypersonic.html

"There are a variety of new approaches being developed to make point-to-point high speed travel a reality, whether it’s SpaceX’s idea of a landing and reusing an orbital rocket or flying at hypersonic speeds through the upper atmosphere. Hypersonic is a speed at Mach 5 and higher, or more than five times the speed of sound. According to Virgin Galactic, while a business jet from Los Angeles to Tokyo would take 11 hours, a hypersonic jet would make the trip in two hours."

>> No.17248029

>>17247669
OGI
It's going back to $8

>> No.17248047

>>17247863
Panicking over hypotheticals is what causes bad trades. Ground Zero is China not Japan you

>> No.17248076

>>17247669

See

>>17247987

>> No.17248083

>>17248047
That's why I specified ground one you newfag.

>> No.17248095

Check this article out, very big if true.
http://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnbc.com%2F2019%2F10%2F08%2Fboeing-20-million-stake-in-virgin-galactic-with-vision-of-hypersonic.html

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Hey biz bros, what's the smartest way to trade options around an ER? I have some KO calls for May and their earnings are in April. I would be looking to sell these before the earnings date when volatility is high correct? Thanks in advance. Also fuck tripfags, niggers, kikes and jannies.

>> No.17248115

>>17247961
Part of it is even fewer passengers than concorde, higher ticket cost and also going even higher. I dont believe its using air based turbines so it can go even higher than the typical 35,000 planes fly at. That high up the earth rotates fast enough you only need to fly a little to move a lot.

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>>17248115
>high up the earth rotates fast enough

>> No.17248159

>>17248083
Just saw your name, call me a fag if you want but at least I’m not a faggot like you, enjoy missing out on those KO profits

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>>17248113
>Also fuck tripfags
cringe as fuck

>> No.17248197

>>17248095
Wow I didn't know that Virgin Galactic was listed

>> No.17248200

>>17248158
Whatever, you know what I meant.

>> No.17248232

How did smg miss SPCE?

>> No.17248238

>>17248197
it's only been shilled here since the ipo...

>> No.17248250

>>17248232
I didn't. :)

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Damn was some retard narcissist just saying something? I'm done giving these attention whores (you)'s
Fucking morons

>> No.17248255

>The Japanese government gave 2,000 iPhones to passengers stuck aboard a Diamond Princess cruise ship where nearly 200 coronavirus cases have been confirmed, according to 9to5Mac and earlier reported by Macotakara. The phones were reportedly given out so passengers could download an app where they can request medication and talk with doctors. Without the phones, people may not have been able to download the app if their own devices were registered to app stores via countries outside of Japan.

kek

>> No.17248260

>>17248238
FUCK ME

>> No.17248273

>>17248238
I know I was giving him shit for posting super old fucking news

>> No.17248292

>>17248113
Depends. Either sell them when they reach your profit target or before the ER. It’s difficult to play earnings, there is no magic formula unfortunately.

Also fuck tripfags.

>> No.17248294

>>17248273
What the fuck where was I?!??!!? I’m so fucking pissed off right now

>> No.17248313

>>17248294
Apparently reading newspapers from 2019 lmao

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FUCKING BASED

I’m letting my UPRO and SVXY ride into the weekend.

LONG AND LEVERAGED

ZERO HEDGES

FUCK BEARS

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What a great day. :)

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>>17248324
>that pic

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>>17248292
See this guy gets it. I don't have to worry about some stupid agenda or shilling. Just an anonymous question and an anonymous answer. AS WAS INTENDED

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>>17248095
Space industry was so undervalued and no one paid any attention.. They valued this stock at just 1.5b market cap.. but any other tech stock starts at 10b market cap..
this is just a beginning.. NFLX is more appropriate comparison then Tesla.. bcz it has no competitor and demand for space tourism is high.. Watch this stock going to $100 after a July launch if successful

>> No.17248411

SPCE BROS WHERE WE AT

LETS GO ALL THE WAY TO 100

>> No.17248417

>>17248398
Fuck...off... bagholder....tripfag...

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>>17248380
holy fuck just kill yourself faggot, this isnt you diary.

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>>17248411
right here breh

>> No.17248450

>>17248313
I missed it too. I’m just tired of missing the big plays. I just want to catch 1 in my life.

>> No.17248468

>>17248294
Not too late to get in. Anything under $50 imo is a great buy in.

>> No.17248477

>>17248417
That’s not how baggie posts zoomie
Quit feeding the trolls
>>17248356
>that pic
I sure hope you guys smoke Marlboro

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>>17248435
>>17248411

>> No.17248510
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>>17248411
I made ~$700 off of this but feel like I sold too early. Oh well, I have my leaps, warrants and actual stocks still.

>> No.17248557

>>17248510
bruh never have that mindset that you left too early. you locked in profit (money) while every other retard (me included) still have positions open. it could go tits up tomorrow and i could lose it all and youll be glad you cashed out. money made is money.

>> No.17248558

>>17247562
I asked this question two pages back and everybody told me divy gains are two long and slow for /biz/ . Big surprise.

I have a $650k portfolio right now. Following the boring 70% total market index (SPY) and (30% bond index) for my boomer gains.

I am planning to start the divvy path on my income stream. I currently invest around $2k a month outside of my 401k matching investments.

What is a good divy investment match? I see you go individual stocks, but any index / ETF funds you recommend?

Appreciate the help divvy fren.

>> No.17248575

>>17248558
cant go wrong with any etf or index funds. shits all printing money for the foreseeable future.

>> No.17248585

>>17248468
You think it could reach $100 ?

>> No.17248586
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anyone else looking forward to the big crash coming?

>> No.17248608

>>17248586
That’ll be my luck. I’ll go all in on SPCE and the market will crash.

>> No.17248619

>>17247559
And what do you do when the corporations you invested in for longterm die in a 1929 esque crash wiping out all your gains + divi income, what remains won't pay dividends for a long time as they have to rescale their entire business?

>> No.17248626
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I can't believe what's going on. An actual green day. Hysterical laughter

>> No.17248630

>decide to try memestocks
>coinflip snss or ontx
>ontx won
got memed'

>> No.17248635

>>17248619
Jeez I guess you throw up your hands and say the bears were right the sky really was falling. And then you go beg peter Schiff for help, and after cooming in your face he says no.

>> No.17248638
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see disc: >>17247375

pretty decent ah going into my long weekend APT look

>> No.17248646

>>17248630
those aren't memestocks

SPCE, TSLA, NVDA, AMD, ROKU, SHOP, etc are memestocks. No ones heard of those stocks outside this thread

>> No.17248648
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This anon fucking gets it. Whenever the dip does happen, short the fuck out of Darden.

>> No.17248649

>>17248585
If flights start up this summer yeah we could get $100 by fall.

>> No.17248673

>>17248646
>SPCE, TSLA, NVDA, AMD, ROKU, SHOP
okay they will be my next coinflip buy

>> No.17248718

>>17248635
Ok so have it. This market is pure dogshit. Hyped companies with meme fundamentals and retail is busy buying bags. another 10k on the DOW and its over.

>> No.17248719

>>17248673
yes, try posting something bad about AMD on /g/ and watch the response. The shilling on SMG pales in comparison to the AMD shills all over the internet.

>> No.17248721
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FINNA BOUTTA BUY EXTREMELY OUT OF THE MONEY PUTS AT OPEN NEXT WEEK

>> No.17248732

SNSS tutes ownership explosion today. Everyone’s been loading up past two months. I wonder what it could mean...

>> No.17248751

>>17248719
I’ve never used an AMD anything in my life but wouldn’t you agree they’re undervalued at $50 or whatever they’re at now?

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>>17247505

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>>17248732

>> No.17248772

I would rather buy Chainlink before I put a single dollar into shit tier biopharma penny stocks.

>> No.17248785

>>17248608
Not kidding, I had a buy order last Friday for 3 cheap far out $20 SPCE calls. I pulled it Friday afternoon thinking I have time for a better position. I am angry right now...oh well, always opportunities.

>> No.17248786

>>17248751
AMD is a good company but INTC have big connections. Now is kind of a perfect timing for them to shoot up.

>> No.17248788

>>17248751
They have the console market and soon to be mobiles I heard

>> No.17248834

>>17248718
You’re looking at the wrong fundamentals.

Capeshiller bullshit and r naught for WuFlu don’t mean shit

>> No.17248839

My GLDD stopped out. Bummer. Now I’ve got about $9k to buy. Any suggestions?

>> No.17248891

new to stocks and not sure which broker to go with. Does anyone have an app with any particular advantages over the rest?

>> No.17248919

>>17248891
where are you from

>> No.17248965

>>17248919
Indiana

>> No.17248986

>>17248411
Just $100? It's going to $200

>> No.17249002

>>17248965
robinhood

>> No.17249103

>>17249002
any particular reason?

>> No.17249119
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>3 day weekend

>> No.17249144

>>17249103
its convenient and most used by burgers

>> No.17249150

>>17248891
Robinhood has free trading, a good place to start. But you shouldnt go all in on it. Its a good learning tool.

>> No.17249152

due to recent events I'm updating my presidential election odds.

Sanders: 60% to win
Trump: 40% to win

>> No.17249176

>>17249152
previous

Trump 65%+

His odds have the potential to drop to sub 20% by summer

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see disc: >>17247375

and here's the whole order and look so you guys can dab on me when JNJ announces a cure/vaccine over the weekend.
praying for a million dead chinks come tuesday

>> No.17249225

>>17249196
>JNJ
GILD bro, had to load up on offsetting positions in it today

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>invested around 16K so far (since early jan)
>up $1200 now due to SPCE and AMD
>mfw cucks who think trading stocks for profit is """hard""""

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>>17249152
Trump 95%
Sanders 5%

>> No.17249249

Whats the story with BTAI? Up nearly 60% today...

>> No.17249260

>>17249244
They have a winning vector that Trump is leaving open.

>> No.17249262

>>17249119
As theta gang it’s one day closer to the spreads I sold expiring worthless

I realize the three day weekend is priced into the options already, but still feels like a free day for theta gang

>> No.17249270

>>17249152
lmao Trump has a near 100% chance to win you mentally handicapped donkey.

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>>17249249
dunno but they've been a long time coming.
was looking into them yesterday when they did the same thing

>> No.17249291

>>17249152
Bloomberg will be the nominee, guy
bernie will get gayopped. Even warren has more of a chance to be written in by way of super delegates than crazy old bernie does

>> No.17249309

>>17249291
Bloomberg is a gaslight character. He has no actual support. Wait till people vote.

>> No.17249331

>>17249152
You're a lunatic if you think sanders has a chance. Incumbent presidents always win. The only people sanders has convinced are the SJW's, the druggies and some degenerate boomers. As for MSM coverage and 'suggestions', everyone knows the media is full of shit now, even the normies. 80-20 to trump is my odds.

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>>17248586
>fed pumps $90 billion dollars weekly into commercial banks at 1% interest
>when's the big crash coming guyz

it's not. the market moving sideways is crashing. the only thing that will crash is the real purchasing power of the USD

>> No.17249339

>>17249229
>get lucky
>think you're smart or talented

>> No.17249353
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draconian lockdown is working really well, so well they increased lockdown measures in Wuhan

It's almost like the Chinese Gov have no idea how to properly take moves against this coronavirus. Imagine, if you looked at expert and quality papers to see how stupid quarantine is.

>> No.17249362

>>17249144
>>17249150
thanks bros

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>>17249331
Trump fucked up big already and probably lost the election with macro forces coming.

>>17249332
Fed is swimming upriver.

>> No.17249406

>>17249276
I saw them make gainz yesterday but , being only a few days old on /biz/ I wasn't going to buy it on news. Missed a chance but oh well.

>> No.17249408

>>17249339
>being a jelly cuck who's mad that other people have better gains than him

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I'm mad about Roku. Do right thing did not bet on earnings. Earnings beat with a mild pullback on guidance. So okay company is in decent shape. Gap up 5%, it starts to sell off. Figure okay i'll put a limit buy below that gap as it'll probably fill during the day. Limit gets hit but selling doesn't stop. Average down at -4% it keeps going to -8% before finally getting some support in the last two hours for a -6%. Jesus. The chart didn't look like it had the short seller brigade hovering over it at all. I haven't been caught out of sorts like this for a couple years.

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The future is a clear picture.

There are a few branches.

A) GILD - Gilead
B) Crash

That's about it. I'll take the certain money.

>> No.17249448

>>17249196
>10 million Chinese die
>Xi incinerates the bodies, buried the ashes, erects a new hospital over the ashes, sends everyone with any knowledge of the incident to be worked to death in the gulags
>stock markets rally
At least you’re not shorting the market, but you’d be better off buying stocks that don’t depend on chinese honesty to rally.

>>17249291
It will he decided by superdelegates, who will vote centrist. Bernie and warren have no chance.
Barring a major black swan, the election will be Mr. B losing to trump.

Mr. B is a tossup right now between Biden, butti, and Bloomb

Don’t screenshot this post but do commit it to memory. I predicted Jeb Bush’s 2016 presidential victory way back in 2012, so I’m pretty good at this.

>>17249332
These brainlets that insist on fighting the fed are the same people who thought ww3 was going to break out a month ago. There’s no talking sense into them.

And it doesn’t matter, because they have no money and haven’t finished high school.

>> No.17249505

>139 new deaths
>including 34 clinically diagnosed cases

34/139

If the ratio held for the previous 2 weeks it means they under-reported by 75% the death count. Of course the ratio couldn't have held because it means deaths decreased by a ton in the last few days, when the lag of time to death would imply peak hasn't even begun.

It's almost like the numbers are meaningless. So we can look at behavior and we see quarantine measures becoming more draconian in the past day in Hubei province and more cities / residential areas being locked down.

While they are supposedly going back to work nationwide......

Something has to give.

>> No.17249585

Bought my Wife some flowers for part of her valentines gift. Christ the cost of the damn things have gone sky high. I mean hell they only last a week and they die on you. Oh well, she liked them so that's all that counts.

P.S: Glad I doubled my KDP position when I did; it's been on a nice upswing today. Support KHC cause each box of Kraft Mac and Cheese, bottle of ketchup, Mayo, Mustard,container of Maxwell House coffee,etc benefits me cause I'm a share holder. I sold on the 12th and rebought it at the bottom yesterday so all this latest shit don't bother me a bit.

>> No.17249630

>>17249585
>Christ the cost of the damn things have gone sky high
Florists jack their prices by 100% before valentines day. It's an old shekel grab.

>> No.17249633

>>17249505
>It's almost like the numbers are meaningless
Correct.

The numbers are meaningless. The R naught is meaningless. The China flu is meaningless. The complaints of high school students like you who have never had a job or made an investment are menaningless.

>> No.17249672

>>17249505
they would never come out and say the city is on locked down for a month it would set off panic. theyre doing it weekly as to reduce as much panic as possible. "oh yeah next week back to work", 'oh sorry, its moved now to next week'. Airlines from all over the world are cancelling flight plans until Mid April thats how you know this shit is going to cause ripples through the world economy, and it hasn't even started yet. But when it will it will shit on everything.

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>>17249448
>chinese honesty
depending on chinese dishonesty actually, but also stuff they can't really hide.
normies are picking up on it and we've got three long days for something to happen with it

>> No.17249751

>>17248608
Try putting in a lot less than "all." You want to give your sanity a break and you want to be able to play the waiting game while reading up on the progress of Virgin Galactic. If you can only afford 100 buy 100. If you can buy 10,000 buy 10,000. Just don't bet your life savings on it. I'm holding 1,000 from last fall at a little more than 11 dollars per share. I plan to hold for one year for the tax break unless this thing rises too quickly to ignore the profits. I certainly want to see the first commercial flight before I make any sudden moves.

>> No.17249826

I've been gone for a couple weeks, but whoever recommended SNSS in January, you're a fucking champion. I'm up 51% since then. Also, where my SPCEbros at? I got in at 18 bucks so I'm feeling pretty smug right now.

>> No.17249854

>>17249152
Relax, he needs to pass the primary first

>> No.17249873

>>17248648
This is probably good advice, but I don't short anything.

>> No.17249930

DIS, down in the dumps . Due to the china virus hitting them in the pocketbook I guess. That and the piss poor remake shit fest that's all the rage now with most of the studios

>> No.17249972
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>Large Specs decrease their long S&P position by 25%
OH NO NO NO BULLBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY!!!!

;^)

>> No.17250022

>>17247110
hey guys, i always see the "mature" wise investor anons posting here, chastising other anons for chasing penny stocks to get rich quick. but i ask, how else can anyone with small capital make it?

what is a stock market strategy if you are a poorfag with $500? there is literally no way to grow that into wealth unless you gamble on risky investments like penny stocks. am i missing something here? what else can they do?

>> No.17250060

Buy BIIB and hope for more of a pump off of Buffetts new position?

>> No.17250062

>>17248891
Leaf here, I'm using Questrade. $5 commissions, but the app is slick and works like a dream, plus they have plenty of support staff if you're having issues.

>> No.17250073

>>17250022
If you must go penny stocks do your research, make sure the company has a real shot.

>> No.17250105

>>17250022
Me, yeah I "gamble" on penny stocks sometimes but the goal is not make a million dollars. Rather it's to make a nice wad and use part of it to kick start an even larger investment plan that will end up making me some serious money in 26 years. I look at this as my 4th leg of financial security. Not the main one.

>> No.17250168

>>17247763
The Concorde could only go over the Atlantic because of its sonic boom. It couldn't fly over land due to the possible property damage, this greatly limited it's options.

Im mad I missed SPCE and hope it thanks.

>> No.17250169

>>17250105
Yeah I could just say fuck it and kick start it now but I'd fuck myself in the short term if something bad happened I wasn't planning on. So yeah.. no thanks.

>> No.17250191

>>17250022

>>17250022
>am i missing something here?

You're missing that you don't get rich quick just because you want to, no matter how badly you want it. The stock market doesn't have difficulty modes. If you blow your 500 on some penny stock you think is going to moon, 90% of the time you're going to lose it.

What's your threshold for not being a poorfag, and actually having enough capital to invest for meaningful returns? 10K? 20K? You think you're going to increase your 500 bucks by 20 or 40 times? Not a fucking chance.

>> No.17250206

>>17247139
I’m buying 600 shares on Tuesday I’m really a fucking retard.

>> No.17250225

>>17249826
Present. With enough success this thing hits triple digits, though I doubt we will see that soon. SPCE is the first to go public of its type and with a few successful commercial flights, it will have the whole world's attention. Major investors might pour in, creating more space ports and planes too. 200 to 300 USD per share in two years is not very far fetched if hypersonic travel catches on and the money flows in. Will this become a Trillion dollar company? If HS travel becomes the norm for long distance travel it will get there.

>> No.17250251

>>17250073
>make sure the company has a real shot

honestly with penny stocks you'd probably have a much higher probability of success if you just looked for which ones were hyped the most over some event or announcement and ride the upward momentum, selling for a nice profit before the event even happens. idk why no one seems to do this here, playing the hype is obvious while knowing whether a company will actually achieve or fail at their "thing" is purely gambling and unpredictable. whereas taking advantage of the ANTICIPATION of good news is very predictable if you know what to look for.

you're also better off doing this but with real stocks that aren't penny stocks, but again no one here wants to listen to real advice they just want memes, which is why they lose money like retards. but i try, at least.

>> No.17250267

>>17250022
Your premise isn't true. There are plenty of normal stocks that beat the fuck out of penny stocks. If you would have invested $10,000 in Amazon back when it IPOed, you would have millions of dollars. There are plenty of stocks like that which have doubled or tripled in a single year, the trouble is finding them, but that's a problem regardless of what you're in. How many people here have ever made 10x on a meme penny stock without options, let alone 100x?

>> No.17250361

retard here. should I buy more SPCE or has that (star)ship already sailed?

>> No.17250388

>>17250251
Keep doing this for some time and you'll see why people doesn't do it often

>> No.17250408

>>17250022
>am i missing something here? what else can they do?

get a fucking JOB. make SACRIFICES. while you are saving up money, PAPER TRADE and LEARN. it's not fucking complicated. stop being an impatient little bitch. if you can't handle this you shouldn't be trading.

>> No.17250488

>>17250408
>>17250267

so whats the minimum amount of seed money you should start with befoer bothering with the stock market?


you guys seem to be of the school of thought that you should treat the stock market like a bank account. just park your cash in there so it grows more than in a bank account. which doesnt really make sense because of the risks and lack of insurance.

i guess im thinking about the stock market as a way to grow wealth. and wondering what amount is needed to get the ball rolling, or what strategy should people who have low capital use?

>> No.17250507

Ford is going below $8

>> No.17250514

>>17250022
They are talking to the class that has substantial life savings and looking to invest. These people are usually older and can't afford major losses because they won't have time to make it back working or are already retired.

For those people it is sound advice. There is no guarantee of getting rich ever, much less, quickly. The real question is could you be satisfied if you turned your 500 in to 2,000 dollars over a 1 year period? That could easily happen with some basic research. And 2 grans is nothing to look down your nose at. 500 is nothing to look down your nose at either.

If you are disciplined and because SPCE is on our minds tonight, try buying about 10 shares of it when the market next opens. See if our speculation is correct that hypersonic travel and space tourism becomes a profitable game at some point in the not too distant future.

Or if you want an insane risk, look for a stock under 2 dollars per share that has a lot of talk and hype about some upcoming event in its future (much like we are getting stoked over Virgin Galactic's first commercial flight and the recent high of 28.68 at close today.) You want a stock with a good story and a reason for hope in the minds of investors. You CAN lose everything or close to it so put your 500 dollars into something tangible if you can't stand the risk.

I do own 1,000 shares of SPCE and I do think it is going way up in the next year, so I'm a little biased.

>> No.17250518

>>17250488
It sounds like you are thinking of the market as a slot machine. Which is fine, but there aren't too many times you are going to be able to not only find a jackpot, but ride it out, and time your exit perfectly.

>> No.17250565

>>17250488
>you guys seem to be of the school of thought that you should treat the stock market like a bank account.

And you seem to be of the school of thought that the stock market is a get rich quick machine. If you're so confident that you know better than a bunch of overcautious, boring boomers how to double, triple, quadruple your savings, then do it. Stop bitching and trying to force people to give you answers you want to your dumb questions and fucking do it. Literally put your money where your mouth is.

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Just bought some NVDA puts. NVDA is absolutely overvalued and you know it 295 is strong resistance it barely even touched 295.

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>>17247681
poorfag here. i'm new and bleeding pretty hard but i've gotten the most gains from snss so good enough i guess.

>> No.17250633

If making money in the stock market was "easy" everyone would be a rich fuck. Sadly it ain't. The only I guess easy way is to just dump money each month into a Fund and let it roll for 20+ years. The problem is two fold, one you gotta have the time and effort to let it work. Two, you must have extra money, enough to make it worth a damn if this is your only retirement account, in the first place. If this is your only retirement option, $50 a month won't do you jack shit if your say only 10 years away from retirement. Yeah you'll make money but it'll be a far cry from what you need to live off of. So to even things out, to tilt things in your favor you need a massive upfront seed wad to kick start the process. If your young it don't mater, 50 a month will take you far cause you have a much longer ways to go till your at retirement.

>> No.17250651

>>17247503
What exactly does this filing show that signals a moon mission?

>> No.17250699

>>17250633
Who are you talking to?

>> No.17250712

Logged into my investment account after a year of being away
In the red by about a $2000K Loss. still have about $700 left in assets
What the fuck was I thinking investing all in weed.
Holy how do I cling out of this hole?

>> No.17250730

>>17250699
No one, just my thoughts on the subject.

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>>17250572
I agree on this play on two fronts:
1) That gap's gotta fill

3) It's been on a tear since last summer. It is at retard levels of overbought on both the weekly and daily chart.

My prediction is that it will correct nicely next sell off/capitulation or it will crab for a few weeks until it goes on a tear again.

>> No.17250746

>>17250633
the short answer is that the stock market isn't for poor fucks. this is why you study hard in college so you can get a good career. if you flip burgers at MCD then the stock market probably isn't for you, sorry. you have bigger problems to deal with first in that case.

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>>17250746
A burger flipper can definitely have stock market gains if he is passive investor/ETF guy. As a "trader"? Probably McFuckin' not.

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BUY TMDX BEFORE EARNINGS ON THE 28th

>> No.17250843

>>17250488
The amount of money you start with doesn't matter long term, everyone should be investing in ETFs with their extra money, but that's very different than picking individual stocks and hoping you win the proverbial lottery. You either have the ability to beat the market, or you're wasting your time trying to learn about stocks. 99% of people are in the latter category and are wasting their time doing anything besides investing in ETFs, including most people here. Only 16% of professional money managers manage to do it annually and only 1% will do it three years in a row. There's a survivorship bias here, you're not seeing all the people that made stupid bets, lost, and stopped trading.
>which doesnt really make sense because of the risks and lack of insurance.
Where else are you going to put your money? Most other investment vehicles don't beat inflation, let alone return a significant sum. There's no safe bet with stocks or most ETFs because the market could crash and never return to these levels, but everyone in the last hundred years was better off investing than they were sitting on their money.

>> No.17250845

>>17250565
>>17250518
it is. its not a get rich quick machine but the stock market is literally a gamble to build wealth. the safest way to build wealth in the stock market is to spread your investments as far as possible so you have a diverse portfolio. but the more diverse your portfolio is, the slower your growth potential. im just trying to figure out what strategy to use with low capital and young age. im not a 70 year old boomer about to retire so it makes more sense to gamble on riskier things. i just dont know what strategy to use. whats the best ROI vs risk rewward investment for poor fags who want more profit potential with like $1,500? buying 1 share of google? 2 shares of tesla? 10 shares of microsoft? 1 share of tesla and 5 shares of microsoft? 3,000 shares of ONTX? wtf do i do? how did other people like buffet get rich using the stock market without wagecucking?

>> No.17250849

>>17250730
I ain't mad at ya

>> No.17250862

>>17250712
> $2000K Loss

You lost 2 million dollars?

>> No.17250881
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ATTN NEWFAGS:

DON’T INVEST IN PHARMA PENNY STOCKS
DON’T LISTEN TO TRIPFAGS
DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH
ALSO BUY KO

>> No.17250904

>>17250712
>investing in companies run by potheads

yeah probably not the best long term strategy. you could keep your shares and hope they climb back out after all the regulatory bullshit and legal problems resolve themselves. but who knows when that will be and those companies might cease to exist by that point. were you heavy into aurora?

>> No.17250930

>>17250786
so the strategy to make it on stocks is to get enough capital to be a trader? what do you guys think that magic number is? 40k?

>> No.17250953

>>17250862
I think his child brain was tard boggling at $2,000 and or he's an ESL

>> No.17250969

>>17250881
How the fuck does this stock move other than off the price of money?

>> No.17250972

>>17250843
you can buy CDs that match or barely beat inflation but yeah for young people thats a bad strategy. but if you are litearlly retired right now, you probably wouldnt want to park your whole nest egg thats supposed to last you the last 20 years of your life in the stock market because who cares about growth if you already have enough to last the rest of your life. its just not worth the risk

>> No.17250982

>>17250845
Buffet has barely managed to beat the S&P 500 and even he says that most people should just use an S&P 500 ETF instead of trying to pick individual stocks. What you are not including is the fact that there's always someone who beats the market, just like if you had a game where everyone had to flip a coin and the winner would move on, there would be one person who could win millions of times in a row. Buffet also changes companies when he buys them and replaces some of their leadership, you can't do that.

You can take on more risk and get a higher return than the S&P 500, you won't however find that 100x stock and turn your $1,500 into millions. The people that manage to do that are very intelligent, rational, and they have extremely good risk management skills so they know just when to exit. That likely isn't you.

>> No.17250984

SPCE took me to the moon today, got unwisely daydrunk and woke up to even more gains holy shit this was the best valentines day ever

>> No.17250987

>>17250969
It pays out dividends brah

>> No.17250989

>>17250881
why did cokes value spike in the 90s after it had existed in america the last 100 years? we didnt have a population boom. is that from the beginning of globalism and coke breaking into the 3rd world shithole markets?

>> No.17251002

>>17250930
Stop being dense.

Just wage cuck and put half of your earning into SPY.

>> No.17251013

>>17250930
3 million dollars and diversified index fund strategy

>> No.17251016

>>17250984
no gf = more to spend on options

>> No.17251022

>>17250881
Based and made the proper distinction pilled

>tfw up 11% on REGN and 12% on ABBV

>>17250930
No. The proper strategy is to get a job, max out your 401K employer match, and/or max out your $6k/year Roth IRA. Buy index funds, and if you enjoy the stock market, take some small calculated risks.

Take the Jack Bogle pill, then build on that.

The surest way to “make it” is to increase your earnings/salary. Make more money, invest more money, save more money, etc.

>> No.17251048

>>17250862
>>17250953
I'm a tard
>>17250904
looking at it
current holdings are 2000 in TGIF, 100 in OGI, 25 in HVT and 60 in TRST, with a few others all over the place
it hurst seeing red but fuck I was an idiot back then

>> No.17251080

>>17250845

Okay. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Sign up for an investment account. Robinhood, Fidelity, it doesn't matter. Everything is zero-commission now anyway. Come Tuesday, buy as many shares in SPCE as you can afford. And just let it sit for a month or two. Decide for yourself when you want to exit.

Do that or go home. If you're hopelessly tantalized by meme penny stocks you're just going to lose all your money.

>> No.17251125

>>17250982
im not asking for a get rich quick scheme i just need a strategy. right now im just aimlessly wagecucking through life saving my extra money, putting some into my roth IRA and dabbling with stocks. but i want to be able to stop working for greedy ungrateful faggots someday so i need a strategy, what are you guys doing? should i save up enough funds to start a business, or use that saved capital to invest into stock market? or use that saved capital to buy rental property? whats the best way to make it, with the milestones of wealth in the most optimal order?

heres my strategy so far, what you guys think?
>wage cuck
>build savings
>buy house
>build more savings
>invest in stocks
>invest in IRA retirement account
>pay off house
>leave wagecuck job
>go back to higher education and do academic research in the sciences for pleasure
>discover replacement for fossil fuels
>buy up all of northern california and declare it independent from the rest of california
>retire happy

>> No.17251173

>>17251080
thanks, i have robinhood already. im not obsessed or stuck on penny stocks im just trying to figure out how to best grow a small amount of money

>> No.17251191

>>17251125
>heres my strategy so far,
Where are you at on your list now?

>> No.17251212

>>17251125
What business do you want to start? You sound like a dunce so I don't think it matters what you do
However now, at a young age, is the time to try (and fail and learn and try again) at shit

And there is no magic system for stocks it's all guessing at Plato's shadows

>> No.17251219

>>17251173
>best grow a small amount of money
Keep adding more until its a bigger number. Then just buy VOO each time you can afford one

>> No.17251226

Kek, 50 upfront + 100 monthly @ 8% interest rate (or return each year), compounded annually and after 40 years would net you over $300,000.00. I dunno about you but I could live from 300,000.00 a year. Especially if you were smart with other aspects of your financial life over those 40 years.

>> No.17251236

>>17251191
the beginning wagecuck phase with a small savings of like $5,000 in bank and $8,000 in roth ira. im a rentcuck and dont have enough for a downpayment yet

>> No.17251260
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>the only way to get SPCE to stop pumping is to close the market

>> No.17251313

>>17251226
>40 years

Cool, $300K will be just enough to finance my annual medical expenses by then, adjusting for inflation. Oh wait, make that one year of medical expenses, and then I'll be broke.

>> No.17251337

>>17251125
>what are you guys doing?
No one who makes serious money will give you their strategy because then they would lose their edge if it becomes popular. Instead what you'll get here are people telling you to buy various stocks, some will be flat out scams, some will be more well intentioned pump and dump schemes, and a few of them will be good long term picks. You will have to decide which is what and when to take profit, that's is key. Take SPCE for example which someone recommended you, don't be an idiot and never sell it if you do buy that stock, most people who are talking about it here are just pumping it so they can take profit and move onto the next meme stock of the week. It may still go up long term, but that isn't their angle. If you ever manage double your investment in something like that, something high risk, withdraw half and let the rest ride if you think it's still good long term pick. Don't let greed rob you of your profits if you make them, that's how a lot of people here end up losing big.

>> No.17251372

>>17251236
>$8,000 in roth ira
Self directed? Keep your 5k in your savings account as emergency fund. I like to keep my emergency fund in laddered CDs that mature each month. It's painfully slow but if anything were to come up I'm never more than 30 days away from my money

>> No.17251374

>those people celebrating ROKU yesterday
>everyone making fun of the guy saying to put
I hope everyone took profit at the top, which would have been 4:01

>> No.17251383

>>17251337
>, withdraw half and let the rest ride if you think it's still good long term pick.
thanks this is good advice

>> No.17251455

Do you guys think SPCE is so hyped its going to monopolize the market? I want to buy monthly BYND calls soon but beginning to worry SPCE will go suck all the air out of the room and BYND might go up 10 bucks at most before earnings.

Also do you think SPCE is even worth it anymore? Will it >50% chance of mooning to 40? Maybe I should try it before BYND, I just really have a good feeling about BYND I think maybe they are saving their McDonalds deal for a earnings report.

>> No.17251460

>>17251372
Treasury bills are a good option also, but it can be kind of annoying dealing with Treasury Direct, not sure if there is an automatic purchase option. Still somewhat worth it to get the best rate you can though, and your interest income on Treasury bills is protected from state income tax which is very based desu.

>> No.17251475

>>17251372
yeah self directed. i had a 401k at my last job then was unemployed for a bit so opened a roth ira and rolled it into that

>> No.17251479

>>17249930
>the piss poor remake shit fest that's all the rage now with most of the studios
They're burning money letting feminists make their propaganda garbage that nobody, feminists included, is willing to pay to see.

>> No.17251485

>>17251455
Yes they can monopolize the vomit comet market

>> No.17251509

>>17251455
i dont know what to think about SPCE. all these high tech millennial elon musk type companies seem to moon without reason for months at a time despite negative news reports, recalls, failed publicity stunts, and no new product development. it doesnt make sense

>> No.17251526
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17251526

If virgin galactic makes me a millionaire, I will literally change my license plate to CHDVRGN

>> No.17251533

Will SPCE rise come Tuesday open?

>> No.17251555

>>17251460
>Treasury Direct
I keep forgetting to make an account, that's what I'll be doing this weekend. I like slow and steady

>>17251475
Are you picking individual stocks for your ROTH? Don't plan on using that money until your 60 so park it in an index fund or target retirement fund.

>> No.17251592

>>17251555
>Are you picking individual stocks for your ROTH?
no its all in ETFs and mutual funds with like 8% growth

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17251668

So when are you guys gonna sell your SPCE?

i might sell 75% of my shares next Friday incase it gets dumped on monday or tuesday

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17251741

can someone explain how dividends work? i have about 100k and use robinhood. do i just buy coke, at&t and then robinhood automatically gives me dividends? do i need to fill out paperwork? pls

>> No.17251744

>>17251668
If it dumps on Monday, we have some big fucking problems.

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17251747

HIV medicine is being used to treat a 'virus' from a bat that's airborne and asymptomatic.

If you aren't buying deep OTM YANG calls you're mentally retarded.

CCP is definitely stupid enough to pursue this course of action as real population control. 50-60 million dead chinks is nothing, if you want results you need something to kill big and let silly Xi be the fall man.

>> No.17251775

What happened ONTX Chads??

>> No.17251784

>>17251747
Worked on sars. No reason not to try.

>> No.17251791

>>17251668
>>17251744
Won't happen earlier or later than Tues

>> No.17251795

>>17251668

If it drops below $25.

>> No.17251808

>>17251747
>virus medicine works on another virus
wow you're really onto something

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17251820

no one ever answers me in here

>> No.17251821

>>17251592
Well shit dude sounds like you're on the right path. Just keep doing what you're doing. As to 'what next' just keep your eye out for opportunity. If you see an investment property and the price is right jump on it.

>> No.17251842

>>17251226
$300k was worth $90k 40 years ago, your numbers are also very optimistic

>> No.17251859

>>17251808
>>17251784

There's an order of magnitude of difference between medicine used for HIV and medicine used for 'conventional' viruses.

At least in the short term its clear that the Chinese are lying about the numbers so the greeks can probably score you some money in the short term.

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17251870

Anyone else notice the virus is killing mainly old men?

This is the best possible thing Xi could’ve hoped for. The population denographics will majorly benefit.

They were about to experience the major problems of the one child policy. Culling the male and the elderly is perfect for them.

>> No.17251884

>>17251820
They’re deposited automatically after a certain date if you held the stock at a certain time. Google it bro.

>> No.17251885

>>17251455
No, it's just meme of the week, just like BYND was at one point. It starts with rampant poorly informed speculation by idiots, people jump on it as it pumps with fear of missing out raising the stock price even higher, when people start taking profit, it collapses and only then is there a possibility of real long term growth built on fundamentals.

Space tourism at this point is a non existent part of the spaceflight industry. Virgin will never have a monopoly on it, there's too many killers that are much better at complex engineering than them, but people may continue to think it will have a monopoly and the price can remain overvalued.

>> No.17251887

>>17251820
6 minutes between posts?

Fucking Google it.
Read investopedia.

>> No.17251929

So for grins I figured up roughly what my worth will be when I turn 63
Some assumptions first: The debt situation stays the same. In other words only the house. This doesn't include my Wife's salary or her workplace retirement package, just deals with mine. Assumes I walk out the door from from my job in 11 years as planned (you fucking kidding, unless I'm laid up with a broken leg or some shit my ass is gone). Now the good bits: 401k @ age 60 - $220,500.00, pension (value is increasing till age 48), cash (currently;assumes I save jack shit for the next 25 odd years) $14,100.00, S&P fund value at age 63 @ 8% return over time $162,900.00. Other stock values: ?? (who knows after 25 years). My retirement covers paid medical so I'll be ok on that count.

>> No.17251940

>>17251747
i already lost on YANG a couple weeks ago and learned my lesson. i should have won big time when their market was crashing but instead i got fucked because they rigged the market to not allow sales, shorts, and closed it early. dont buy anything based on chinese manipulaed markets, they cheat.

>> No.17251949

>>17251775
its been steady at like .51 the last couple days but i think ONTX will move after the weekend since im pretty sure theres a conference going on right now

>> No.17251970

>>17251884
thank you
>>17251887
its too overwhelming the amount of information plus i have dyslexia and cataracts

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17251972

Oh great, the schizos from /pol/ are back, you guys managed to make a shitty board even shittier

>> No.17251974

>>17251821
well its a small amount and the 8% growth is only becuase how well the stock market is doing as a whole right now. the etfs and funds are super low risk hence the low average 8% gains the last couple years

>> No.17251980

>>17251741
>100k
>robinhood
Robinhood just gives you the dividends where other brokers have the option to reinvest those dividends to buy more shares automatically, even fractions of the shares. But with 100k and inexperienced you'd be better off talking to a financial advisor

>> No.17252008

Economics n00b here looking for a correction in my thinking

I'm trying to understand the implications of China's economy and labour force taking a dive with respect to minerals.

On the one hand, China produces most still alot of each mineral (gold, bauxite, zinc, iron ore...) so global production of these will go down and I expect their values to go up and foreign mining companies to go up in value.

On the other hand, China is also the top user of most minerals, so less use means I would expect their value to go down globally.

So which is it?

>> No.17252016

>>17251980
ok thx

>> No.17252021

Any of my meme SPCE brothers here also in DEAC, TMDX, or VRT?

>> No.17252027

>>17251949
Yes there is another conference. More institutions have joined also.

>> No.17252033

Any Canucks out there use Wealthsimple Trade?
It looks like a canadian alternative to Robinhood but was wondering what /smg/ thought of it.

>> No.17252050

Guys, SPCE might go up to 50 or 60 but it's based on pure fucking hype. You're talking about a 90 minute ride to the edge of space for 250k, even Mr. Branson said he was expecting 1,500 customers in 2023. And you guys are fucking delusional if you think this is gonna be a good choice for hypersonic travel. It's going to be expensive as hell and only really have applications for the extremely wealthy. At least concorde was a normal plane, this has 10x the complexity and a pretty abysmal safety track record so far. Not to mention that runways would probably have to be extended. Would you risk dying(or paying in excess of 50k) for a 4 hour faster flight to paris. Not to mention Elon and Blue origin are working on P2P and space tourism with much deeper pockets and more experience. Do not long SPCE, swing trade it though, FOMO could be off the charts. ST is freaking out. Also AGRX approved today. Doubled my account in 3 months.

>> No.17252070

>>17251741
>>17251970
>>17252016
You would likely be better off putting your money into ETFs unless you are going to actively manage your stocks and cut the losers. I don't think individuals stocks are for you, fren.
>>17252033
The problem with Wealthsimple is that they don't allow you to hold US currency, meaning you're paying an exchange fee every time you buy and sell US equities. I also don't know if they allow option trading.

>> No.17252084

>>17252070
whats the best etf?

>> No.17252085

>>17251974
I utilize the "All Century Portfolio" strategy for my ROTH IRA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/get-there/why-the-all-weather-portfolio-is-a-wash-out/2014/12/05/ca580a2e-7be3-11e4-9a27-6fdbc612bff8_story.html

I have another brokerage account that I use to pick a few stocks that I plan on holding forever like msft, apple, att, etc. My bank also offers mutual funds and I auto contribute to it each month and any addition funds left over at the end of the month go into it.

>> No.17252103

>>17252097
>>17252097
>>17252097

NEW
NEW
NEW

>>17252097
>>17252097
>>17252097

>> No.17252110

>>17252084
VTSAX, SPY, QQQ can't go wrong with these, track the market and make you 7% a year, better than basically every hedge fund

>> No.17252129

Should I just read the books in the bogleheads wiki? Or are there any more useful books, or videos or whatever? Completely new to all this.
no need to spoonfeed me but pls reply

>> No.17252161

>>17247157
Too many normies in spce be careful

>> No.17252171

>>17252110
thank you sexy man

>> No.17252197

>>17252084
With leverage or without leverage? Without leverage maybe SPY, VOO, those two are trying to match the S&P 500 index which is the standard of investment returns, so you should be doing pretty well over time, but on top of that, you may want to invest some in bond and global market ETFs as well. I think Vanguard Total International Stock ETF (VXUS) and
Vanguard Total Bond Market ETF (BND) are popular for that but I haven't looked into them.

You can build a three ETF portfolio with an even split between them, keep investing your money into them, and let them grow over time. You won't have to do much else besides look into rebalancing every now and then and see if you can get a better ETFs.

>> No.17252248

>>17252129
You don't need to read any investment related books unless you want to try to beat the market, otherwise just follow the Boglehead advice or most of the ETF advice given in general.

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17252551

If only you knew how bad things really are.

>> No.17252861

>>17248673
You should have bought SNSS. They just filed that they are giving bonuses to the scientists working on Vecabrutinib, which implies efficacy has been achieved at 400mg.

>> No.17252897

>>17250881
>Not buying SNSS
Never gonna make it

>> No.17252983

>>17248558
WFC, turn around time, management team from JPM are stepping in, once asset cap is removed, these guys are going to the moon. Collect the safe 4%+ divvy in the mean time

>> No.17253015

>>17249332
this, the fed wont let the markets crash, i also believe they directly buy assets (bonds and stocks) which basically means they cant go down, gay but its what it is

>> No.17253055

>>17250507
ford is one fucking disgusting company, it completely flopped last recession, its going to get killed again, especially since they are financing a ton of their cars, keeping their new $30k pickup trucks isnt their top priority when shit hits the fan

>> No.17253078

>>17250989
pretty sure KO traded at a P/E of 40 or 50, it was just pure autism like every other hot stock. I believe JNJ also traded at bullshit multiples which is why you see the price going nowhere for 10 years

>> No.17253422 [DELETED] 

"2018 was the fourth-worst year for U.S. equity managers since 2001; 68.83% of domestic equity funds lagged the S&P Composite 1500® during the one-year period ending Dec. 31, 2018"

According to the S&P 500 Persistence Scorecard: December 2019, just 8% of domestic equity funds remained in the top quartile over a three-year period.

The people that beat the market managing money professionally aren't consistently doing it. Over a 15 year period, almost no one will. I think they did a study where they found just a few companies that have done it. Where are the successful money managers? They're not winning in any area, it should be trivial for them to beat the market with a slightly higher weight on some of the top stocks favored by retail investors like Amazon and Google.

>> No.17253832

>>17251668
Dumping Tuesday for sure

>> No.17253871

>>17252897
Post snss holdings or gtfo

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